There are probably only ten people in Australia who haven’t heard it was the Hottest Ever, Record Summer Downunder. And they were probably born yesterday.
Summer here was so scorchingly awful it was Angry. But a funny thing happened on the orbit overhead. Check out the UAH satellite data on summers since the UAH records began. The graph below (thanks to Ken) is the temperature data from the NASA satellites, processed by UAH (University of Alabama in Huntsville). Strangely there is a disparity between what the satellites recorded and the BOM.
The satellite data shows that the summer of 2012-2013 was close to ordinary, compared with the entire satellite record going back to 1979. Not a record. Not even extreme?
According to UAH satellite measurements summer in early 2013 was not a record. Not even close.
The graph data comes thanks to John Christy, Director, Earth System Science Center, Distinguished Professor, Atmospheric Science
University of Alabama in Huntsville, Alabama State Climatologist and Roy Spencer. It was graphed by Ken Stewart at KensKingdom, and inspired by Tom Quirk at Quadrant. I was very happy to connect them this weekend. The data cover “average lower troposphere temperature anomalies for land grids only for the region 10S-40S by 110E-155E.” UPDATE: The data in the graph above does include Tasmania as well, and does not include PNG or Timor.
Perhaps there is some error in the data? But on Ken’s site, you can see he gets a reasonably close correlation for most points with ACORN.
As Ken says:
According to BOM, last summer was a record, yet the satellites say it was pretty ordinary- 14th warmest out of the last 35. The last time there was such a large discrepancy was 1983- the two series since then have been reasonably similar.
Ken Stewart compared the UAH summer record to the BOM one.
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Note though that the other large discrepancy was 1983 which was also a year when the BOM records a very high temperature, and UAH records an average one. Perhaps that is a clue?
The UAH data is not covering the same area as the BOM stats do.
There is no Tasmanian data, and while a lot of surrounding ocean is included in the longitude and latitude, the UAH data is for land-grids only. The black rectangle marks the land covered in the UAH satellite data.
UPDATE: John Christy sent a second set of data to Ken that does include Tasmania and doesn’t include Indonesia and PNG. I will update the graphic below as soon as I can. The UAH data is more accurate than I thought.
Even if the UAH data included some ocean stats leaking into the mix, according to the BOM the ocean was the hottest on record in any case.
The Age quotes the BOM telling us that seas weren’t just warm, and it wasn’t just one month. It was the hottest, and it was all of summer:
Seas around Australia are also warmer than usual, with surface temperatures reaching record highs at the end of February, according to a Special Climate Statement issued by the Bureau of Meteorology in the wake of this month’s heatwave across south-eastern Australia.
Summer sea temperatures were 0.5 degrees above normal and the warmest since records began in 1900, the bureau said.
[Source: BOM ENSO page] March12 2013.
Warwick Hughes sharply spotted that data from NOAA/NWS/NCEP Climate Prediction Center didn’t agree either that 2013 was a record summer (though it comes in second). He downloaded and graphed the gridded data from CPC GHCN/CAMS t2m (45°South to 10°South and 110°East to 155°East). While their difference between CAMS and the BOM were small in 2013, there was a difference in the trends, and CAMS shows that 1983 was the hottest ever, and that 2013 was second, and was almost identical to 1973, 1998, and 1991. (Does NCEP use some Australian BOM surface data?)
Hottest ever media hype?
The BOM have been issuing “hottest summer in Australia ever” announcements for two weeks, even practically before the summer was over. The Angry Summer has been all over the press, especially with this graph.
Despite the title this graph includes the 2013 record high.
Did the BOM plot the UAH comparison? Can they explain the discrepancy?
Even if there is some explanation, the BOM is not giving Australians any indication of how difficult, complex, and questionable these continent wide “records” are. Few of the public would realize that the record depended on tricky and sometimes unpublished methods, on subjective choices made in weighting areas, and subjective decisions on how to adjust individual records.
How many Australians know that “records” could vary with other methods of estimating average temperatures? Or that other data sets managed by other climate experts might not agree?
Can anyone spot an investigative journalist?
Did anyone ask the BOM if there are other ways to calculate “the average temperature of the country”? Did anyone enquire as to whether they had looked at satellite data as well?
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Don’t miss your chance to see Lord Monckton in Canberra tonight,
then Wagga, and Albury on Tuesday. Sydney on Wednesday,
and Melbourne and surrounds from Friday onwards.
Details at the Lord Monckton Foundation.
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Related posts:
- Mystery black-box method used to make *all new* Australian “hottest” ever records
- Not the hottest ever summer for most Australians in Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane. Not “extreme” heatwaves either.
- How well did that 50 degree forecast work out for the BOM?
- Eight reasons the Australian heatwave is not “climate change”
- Australia – was hot and is hot. So what? This is not an unusual heatwave
- Extreme heat in 1896: Panic stricken people fled the outback on special trains as hundreds die.
The problem that the BOM faces, as do other meteorological organisations, is that they are starting to carry more and more baggage created by previous “corrections” to the observed land-based data.
It is fairly easy to justify adjusting one or two measurements because of one factor or another, but those adjustments accumulate and become part of the historical record, and hence part of the ongoing historical trend.
If the adjustments are totally unbiased, you would expect the accumulative effect to tend towards zero. What this comparison with the satellite data implies, is that the accumulated adjustments have not tended towards zero, but instead have tended towards indicating an ongoing increase in temperatures. Ergo, previous adjustments were not unbiased.
I give a lot more credence to the UAH satellite data than anything else. The satellite data may still not be right, but there is less chance of justifying arbitrary changes to the values.
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the satellites are watching us every second of every hour of every minute of every day!!! they know us better than your best friend!!! if they say we are cooling, then we are cooling.
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i got so cold last night in bed i had to wear my flanneries – they keep me warm!!!
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I’ve heard they also keep you dry…. 😉
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You got 8 thumbs up for this? Well done. Great example of the standard of commentary.
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Every hour, of time, for every minute, of arc. That is the implication, and perfectly reasonable for something that is flying over a spherical object, such as the earth.
Great example of your narrow interpretation of the world.
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Nice One
This is exactly where you will lose the CASW alarmist argument. You always attack the capabilities of certain people and extend to all. Your disdain and superior attitude is what is grating on the average Tom, Dick and Harry. You probably can’t even remember this saying (unlike Philip Stephan who has lived through everything).
The main attitude that you display is almost dictatorial in nature – akin to “The science is settled”.
Why do you continue to debase people instead of actually trying to put any simple point, reference, argument, explanation etc to push your belief?
Quack is not quite typical of other people here but you gave him a thumbs down for this little jolly?
I gave him a thumbs up.
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Where I live our Summer temperatures tend to be driven by low pressures and high pressures(also blocking high pressures).
So how did the air pressure play out in this and earlier summers?
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The UAH trend is almost identical to others.
http://woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1979/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1979/trend/plot/gistemp/from:1979/plot/gistemp/from:1979/trend/plot/rss/from:1979/plot/rss/from:1979/trend/plot/uah/from:1979/plot/uah/from:1979/trend
Nice one Rereke!
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http://woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:1979
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http://woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:1998
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Anecdotally I consider, in my experience on Earth, that this summer was one of the coolest I can remember. A few hot days doesn’t make it the hottest on record.
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yep, and its our experiences that count!!! I only had one hot day. the rest of the time was indoors or at the beach!!!
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You aren’t trying to be mistaken for JB are you?
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Jimmy Barnes rocks!!!
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My anecdotal is better than your warmist trumped up evidence.
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Gbees, I think you might have a touch of the “feelies”!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OjD0e1d6GgQ
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I think you missed the “Anecdotally” part.
But then, what do you have JFC? A bunch of computer models, all with failed predictions and absolutely no data to support your CAGW alarmism.
I’ll take the anecdote, thanks!
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No I didn’t. Anecdotally, I heard that Elvis was seen aliver and well in my local shopping mall. What do you think that statement might be worth?
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alive
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About the same the Marcott et all paper is worth.
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Your Elvis story is an example of hearsay. Quack refered to evidence from experience. Straw Man 1 d Smart Arse 0
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Your being here greatly diminishes the warmist cause. !
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Anecdotally, I have heard all of your BS…. now what is that worth?
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JFC – I’m happy to meet and discuss this personally face to face if you wish …
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Here early summer was cool. Mid summer was quite hot due to the late arrival of our wet season. Late summer was quite cool, as once it rained, it forgot how to stop.
I recall this is just how summers were for about 30 years of my life, up to about 15 years ago, so back to normal.
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Spot on Gbees and every other person has thought exactly the same. Looks like 8 months of cooling ahead.
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Clearly the “Angry Summer” hype displays the desperation that alarmists now face. Unable to show significant warming in any scientific way, they now cherry pick local weather and declare it as proof of “global warming”.
Yes, the science is settled >> There is no science that proves CAGW.
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Backslider
How can the alarmists claim one (allegedly hot – maybe not) season in Australia as proof of global warming, yet dismiss 17 continuous years of steady temperatures as an “anomoly”?
The BOM is being very selective in their reporting, methinks.
Cheers,
Speedy
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Yes BS, that’s the position; “There is no science that proves CAGW”.
What this statement means is that all and I mean ALL of the discussion about how hot it was yesterday is Totally Irrelevant until such time as a link is shown between Atmospheric T and CO2 levels.
Once this is done we can look at the finer detail of how much Human CO2 contributes.
It’s not done yet- still waiting and this discussion is basically very peripheral to the main claim of Anthropogenic GW.
KK 🙂
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No evidence disproves CAGW. Just as they have no evidence to prove it.
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CAGW makes specific predictions (hot spot – slope of global radiative balance vs temp graphs) that are contradicted by measurement. That makes it a dead parrot.
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I think you need to take a closer look. There is so much that disproves CAGW its not funny… well, yes it is funny.
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And that, Grant, is called an argument from ignorance. I say that the queen (Lizzy, bless her cotton socks) is descended from a bloodline of extraterrestrial lizards that in fact control the Illuminati.
There is no evidence to the contrary.
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Have you seen her son lately?
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So Steffen et al are making up stuff. What’s new?
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REPLY: This post is about BOM work. Not others (though more people are responsible for the PR campaign and the false level of certainty about “records”). Note there are years when the BOM average is also colder than UAH. Lets wait til we hear if there an explanation. – Jo
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Queue the personal attack responses now John Christy’s name has been associated with the data.
I was thinking in the shower this morning(no I dont have a life to speak of) that it may be the height of naievety to attack someone (on either side) because of who pays them. Yes it is a factor to consider, but in reality we are all paid by someone. If you extend the logic that anyone receiving money cant be trusted to report anything objectively then everyone on the dole must be warmists because they are funded by the government. Equally I would be useless in my job as a construction safety manager, because the company pays me, so I will naturally just run their line right? Boy I wish that was true because Id still be in the last job and not sacked for speaking up.
The fact is the vast majority of us cant be bought (on either side). We know what we think and we will keep espousing it till someone changes our views with better arguments.
Out of a choice between a few dollars and being able to sleep at night, its a no brainer surely.
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Hi Safetyguy66
Your talking about the logical fallacy of poisoning the well.
The bottom line is that the characteristics of the messenger must be abstracted away from the message – and the message dealt with on it’s own merits.
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His name necessarily will be associated with UHA. After all he holds and has held a respected position there for many years. Of course the warmists and Leftist always attack the person not the data, we need to make sure these attacks get exposed to the light of truth. His qualifications and credentials speak for themselves.
http://www.nsstc.uah.edu/atmos/johnchristy/about.html
Dr. Christy has been wronged by trolls here before: http://joannenova.com.au/2012/08/dr-paul-bain-and-nature-issue-partial-correction/#comment-1103733
The most reprehensible comments I’ve read are the ones regarding his Christian faith. Similarly, Roy Spencer gets scorn at Sourcewatch (Sourcewatch funded by the Center for Media and Democracy in turn by Soros among others) for his thoughts on Creationism. This surely illuminates the extreme lengths catastrophic Warmists will employ in order to distract from the weaknesses in their position.
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Too bad there are not more people like you.
I am a chemist who worked in Safety and Quality Control. During my entire career I only met a few people who put sleeping well at night above feeding their family. They might agree with me in private but in front of the bosses they join the chorus line of yes men.
Like you I got fired for refusing to falsify data on more than one occasion.
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I wonder how cold it’s going to have to get before Bom and the rest stop hyping on about “warming”. They are really showing themselves up as being bought. Shame on them. We need a new broom to empty out and start over – or maybe just sweep away. Trust is important. Once trust is gone, there is nothing worth hanging around for.
No matter how far in the future, no matter how many new people come in, I and many others will remember Bom and all the other alarmist puppet organizations for being liars and cheats and thieves interested only in lining their pockets. Prostitutes, the lot of them – Sorry. I shouldn’t say that. I apologize unreservedly to all prostitutes, who have much more integrity.
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Correct – prostitutes are honest purveyors of a service.
The BOM, CSIRO and other co-opted organizations pretend that they are doing something (science) which they are not.
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I reckon they also sold their souls – which prostitutes don’t do.
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Thats the problem with making stuff up, for monetary gain.
When you forget which lies, you told to which group, it all comes down.
The last 3 months have seen an uptick in frantic spinning for the cause.
Or as any teenager knows, when caught in a lie, lie louder and faster.
I am enjoying the desperate twists and turns, they hooked themselves and their pain, gives me great pleasure.
The bill is coming due, these useful idiots, AKA “climatologists” are the marked scapegoats.
The pollies are hoping that the mob will be happy with a few “experts and bureaucrats” as raw meat.
I think their greed has overshot their calculation.
Looks like the complicit British press has finally figured out how scapegoats are rewarded.
CYA is a bureaucratic sport.
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Im starting to think its more about both peer pressure from similar groups and like minded scientists, fear of being out of step with the so called concensus and basic fear of angering the government and thus affecting possible funding. So while its certainly money related, I dont necussarily think its dollars for opinions in a one to one ratio.
I guess as a scientist its always going to be tough to stick your head too far above the parapets until you have something really conclusive. But at the same time, they seem to be prepared to speak pretty loudly on bugger all evidence when its about warming.
Ok I dunno lol
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Hi Safetyguy.
I agree a lot of scientists would have pulled their heads in and kept quiet when they saw how nasty the extremists can be (jobs lost, etc., as you yourself found), but keeping quiet is one thing, lying and cheating and fudging evidence is something else again.
The little guys keeping quiet, I’m happy to overlook. It’s the frausters and the scam pushers I want to see go down. Big time.
Cheers. 🙂
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Well I worked for NZ Electricity late 70s-early 80s, groupthink was never in short supply.
On the engineering side it was dominant, empire before engineering.
On the bureaucratic level, i.e. purchasing and policy, groupthink was absolute.
Policy meeting, taught me the government creed; If you do not know, don’t ask.”
Those professional “………..s” will not question anything they do not understand, which is why government policies are what we see.Proof they understand nothing but CYA & no action=no mistake.
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Graphs as used go back to 1910 and conflate the recovery from the LIA with alleged CO2 warming. I find this reprehensible.
We are being bludgened with “climate change” because this term allows use of pre-1945 warming; the readership is misdirected to think that all of the warming is CO2 and consistent with IPCC modelling.
The more time goes by, the stronger a skeptic, nay, a denier of the IPCC narrative I become. Pre-1945, the CO2 emissions were not signficant enough to cause the temperature rises and are excluded from IPCC technical consideration but not political use. To pull the average citizen’s brain to this fact is so, so difficult. Apples and oranges, apples and oranges, and yet in spin-jargon, they are fruit of the same tree.
Even Arctic sea-ice history: check out the sea-ice loss vs global temperatures. You’ll see that the sea-ice was remarkable stable into the early 2000s despite the rise of temperatures since the ’70s (Arctic data is >1979 and just satellite). It looks more like bottom-up, oceanic current initiated than top-down, atmospheric. An article in the Toronto, Canada, Globe and Mail, March 16th, referred to Atlantic ocean water being a significant factor in melting of Arctic ice; now we are pushing CO2 back a step, to warming waters that eventually – through current direction changes? – cause the ice loss. Not warm air.
At each step we see weaknesses in the CO2 narrative or complementary warming forces that are dismissed. As the IPCC is on a Unique Solution drive, they can do this, but if you add in each non-CO2 influence, you find less and less room for a catastrophic impact of CO2. And yet this message doesn’t get to the MSM.
Climate change, warming of the air and water: whatever happens is inextricably assigned to CO2 despite the fine print and the caveats. All the “might”, “could”, “may” conditionals are confused with the declaratives of “will”, “does” and “shall”.
Ask Hansen and Gore and Mann to change the tenses of their statements and the answer is “no”. Declaratives are testable. Declaratives in their hands would have to deal with the also-factors. Which would bring CO2 from the hoop-dropping height of the NBA league to the knee-biting annoyance of Munchkins from the Wizard of Oz.
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Climate Change? Water Wet.
The choice of CC after GW was difficult to sell, will turn out to be a marketing mistake of the first order, accentuated by the “Extreme Weather” rubbish.
Would not want these guys on any soccer team of mine.
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Good one, John.
I never let anyone get away with “climate change”. Immediately ask them what they mean by “cc”. Inevitably they’ll say “global warming”. Then hit them with the data.
And of course, ask them, “Is there any evidence which does not support AGW?”. The non-scientists or the mendicant variant will surely expose their wilful ignorance or dishonesty almost immediately.
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“Bludgened”- one of the nicest misspellings I have seen in a long time.
Note for dictionary – “bludgened” – blunt instrument attack by bludgers. Well done DP!
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About the arctic and sea ice have a look at this http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/0858411.jpg It is USA submarines Seadragon (SSN-584), foreground, and her sister Skate (SSN-578) during a rendezvous at the North Pole in August 1962. Note the men on the ice beyond the submarines. That photo if taken now would be everywhere and the warmists would be saying “there’s the proof”.
As for the hottest summer/September it beats the hell out of me. I am in Canberra and grew up in the Southern Highlands my memories are of much hotter in the last 60 odd years. If the BOM is right Australia is unique in that the rest of the world just is not. Doesn’t say much for the carbon tax but maybe it is the cause!
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It’s funny Jo should post this story, I was talking to an old farmer yesterday about the various ways to measure temperature and as he pointed out you only have to go from one paddock to another to get a change, he also said a few things about some of the so called experts that I can’t repeat but he’s right, you only have to climb a ladder to feel a change in temp sometimes and I know it’s sometimes not relevant to the big picture but it makes you think.
How many ways is there to measure global temperature? It would be interesting to know an give the general population something to think about.
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I work on the NE tip of Tasmania(Cape Portland). Driving in to work at 0430 this morning I was watching the temp readout on the dash as I was surprised to see 4c in one of the small towns I pass on route as it was about 7c in Scottsdale where I live. As I got about 40km from work I went through the little (8 houses) town of South Mt Cameron where the temp started flashing as 3c which means a chance of ice on the roads according to the car. By the time I got to work (25 mins / 40km later) it was 11c. So basically an 8c difference in only 40km. Pretty easily explained, Sth Mt Cameron is higher elevation and around 30km from the ocean. Work is only 2km from the ocean at most. But it sure shows you how radically the temperature changes over short distances.
If they took the temps from SMC instead of Swan Island (where I beleive it comes from for this area/could be wrong) youd be forgiven for thinking it was 2 different countries.
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Safetyguy66, Yonniestone,
Yeah! Tell me about it! I sometimes don’t have to drive more than 8 or 10 miles east to find a 10 to even 15 degree F (5.5 to 8.3 C) increase from home, even in the winter. So where would I take readings if I wanted the highest temps? And for that matter, what would the average mean if I computed it?
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Safetyguy66 & Roy Hogue,
When we got our Jeep a few years ago it was the first car we’ve had with a temp gauge and it’s surprisingly accurate, on black Saturday 2009 we left very early to beat the heat at St Leonards beach Bellarine peninsula, at 08.00 it was 38c on the beach and blowing hard (the water was like a bath) so we gave up that idea and by the time we travelled 1 km inland it was 43c and rising, we then headed to Torquay where it was 45c and used the surf showers to cool off, next town Anglesea I saw 48c and it was blowing harder but as we got further west it started to cool and Warrnambool was about 31c when we got there.
On the way we heard about the fires starting in the east and feeling dread for those caught out, it was a terrible day but seriously could have been a lot worse but I could not have believed those temperature changes unless I saw them for myself, I’m sure plenty of CFA people have seen all before.
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Yonnie, I think you’ve probably hit the nail. The BOM are working from limited points on the map and then assuming that data represents a larger area. In central Australia a few stations cover an enormous area and their results affect the area-weighted average over thousand of square kilometers.
What I’m curious about is why in 1998 the two data sets are in very close agreement, but in 2013, and 1983 they are not remotely.
Note that in 1981, 1982, and 2000 the BOM estimates things were cooler than UAH does.
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“The BOM are working from limited points on the map and then assuming that data represents a larger area. In central Australia a few stations cover an enormous area and their results affect the area-weighted average over thousand of square kilometers.”
I suspect that BOM’s calculation method emphasises some areas more than others. It might be interesting to look at raw data for some of the central Australian temperature stations. I suspect that these stations are the ones being over-emphasised.
This could explain to hotter/colder variations.
Either that or UHA is over-emphasising some regions with more moderate temperatures, eg coastal regioons, thus not getting as large a variation.
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The December 3rd 2012 Synod conjunction of Jupiter and Earth started an atmospheric oscillation that resonated with the opposition of Mars and Jupiter when they lined up on the 16th of January 2013 to give Australia “the short term heat wave”.
Be ready as this same effect will occur for several years yet, next year it almost comes altogether Earth and Jupiter on the 5th January 2014, Mars and Jupiter on the 8th, and Earth with Mars on the 11th of January 2014.
By the 6th of February 2015 it is just Jupiter and the earth so expect the resultant short drought and heat spell to come later. These are the causes of the pulses of extreme weather and has nothing to do with background levels of CO2, it is due to blocking patterns generated in the global circulation due to the electromagnetic effects of the enhanced solar wind flows during synod conjunctions.
The timing of the production of blocking highs in both NH & SH is predictable by this method, with a good track record used by myself, and Piers Corbyn, but still not paid attention to by Ken Ring, accounting for some of his greatest forecast errors.
Note to Gee Aye: I have already explained that the almost complete lack of snowfall data base for Australia results in a completely false snow forecast for your country, just like smearing the arctic temperatures for 1200 Km invalidates Jim Hanson’s GISS data set for the arctic.
The data is dense enough to give better coverage for Temperatures and Precipitation trends along the South and Eastern coastal areas, but more and better coverage of the inland areas would be of great benefit to the local inhabitants.
http://research.aerology.com/natural-processes/temperature-scale-update-on-maps/ new temperature scale maps up until 1-31-2013 posted at this time if you want to compare Januaries temps at the new scaling.
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[Snip – nil contribution – Jo]
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Isn’t it marvellous how nothing happens until specific dates are reached. How close was Jupiter to opposition on Dec 1st 2012, Nov 1st 2012 etc? Pretty close, so why didn’t the “atmospheric oscillation” start then? Also, the heatwave was well under way by 16 January 2013, was it not? I don’t buy any of this stuff.
Richard – re your 2014 prediction – I bet you $1000 that it doesn’t!
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thanks for confirming that with full knowledge you still publish material you know to be wrong.
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I did not collect or store the data, it is not my fault there is not enough data points for snowfall coverage, to give a better resolution to the plots generated. If the density of reporting stations was as high as they are in the USA (58%tile nearest neighbor is within 15 miles) there would not be a problem. It is entirely due to the low incidence of both snow events and shortage of reporting coverage that results in the problematic errors.
I would hope that my efforts to point out that there needs to be much better/denser station reporting coverage for the information BOM gathers to be relevant for future forecasting efforts based on your local history, would not just fall on deaf ears, or people with fingers in them saying Lalalala.
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you are in control of the web site, not the data. Blaming the data for your error is about as sane as blaming Jupiter.
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I now have made modifications to my web site to reflect the feedback from my peers here, New color scale for the temperatures is more defined in the plant growing ranges. I will be deleting the snow and snow on ground maps from the Australian pages asap the developer gets to it, when he will aslo activate the local USA 48 contiguous states search by zip code for a zoom to local county resolution maps 200X300 mile map segments centered on the entered USA zip code.
Just to show you the difference in reporting station density, this is the stats for the contiguous US Coop and standard stations combined data base. The worst coverage for the last 95-99%tile is up to ~125 miles between nearest neighboring stations.
Nearest Neighbor Statistics Precipitation USA
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Separation(degrees) |Delta Z|(inches of rain)
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1%%-tile: 0.00609015599143 0
5%%-tile: 0.0334228963437 0.0034
10%%-tile: 0.0511269009427 0.01
25%%-tile: 0.108878096971 0.0433
50%%-tile: 0.199602104197 0.1535
75%%-tile: 0.44941891371 0.3701
90%%-tile: 0.740128238888 0.7677
95%%-tile: 1.05926021827 1.0423
99%%-tile: 2.13720196753 2.1398
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Jo thanks, I don’t think I’ve hit anything for a while but as always you, and others here, have just given me something else to research “dammit!” thank you.
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I agree Jo. Its the discrepancies that are interesting.
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JoNova hints that another year with anomalous differences was 1983, a clear reference to the 1982-83 drought which was probably the most severe of the last 100 years.
It is quite possible that in some drought conditions, siting factors for Automatic Weather Stations make them less representative of the surrounding area (than during other more normal conditions). The most obvious factor relates to ground moisture levels on sites that are chosen for good surface drainage and to have manageable ground vegetation.
Satellite measurements aren’t affected by ground peculiarities- they have peak sensitivity at 2 kilometre altitude and cover a wide area.
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Leo G, I remember that 1982-83 drought very well as we were living out of town and helping a farmer down the road cart hay or get rid of dead livestock (most had to be shot) but the speed and severity of the drought was a shock for many. Compared to the 1996-2010 drought which was a “green drought” and drawn out but more manageable.
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Are there some bits of PNG and Asian Islands in the northern part of the rectangle over Australia, or is that graphic not completely accurate?
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The rectangle does include a bit of the PNG coastline. What is your point?
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I am wondering if these land bits are included.
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Sorry I mean included in the analysis.
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Ah, I am not sure. The diagram is, of course, only a representation of the area of study.
But there will be a grid within the actual area of study, and I would expect those cells that do not relate to Australia to be ignored or otherwise depreciated.
There are grid lines shown on the diagram, and if they relates to the real grid, then it looks easy enough to exclude PNG and East Timor, and any other cells that only contains water.
Others might be able to share a more knowledgeable view than me.
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I figured that, just seems odd to even bother including the box or even the figure, when “mainland Australia” would suffice.
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I went to the trouble of drawing up and including the box, because John Christy gave Ken and I the data and described it as being land gridded between certain long and lat figures. It was the most honest way I could represent that.
I will ask him if there is any PNG land data, but I expect there would be. Note we are missing all of Tas (bar the Islands in the Bass Strait) which would have more effect than the tiny area of PNG or Timor. The graphic makes that obvious.
PS: Though I can’t promise that the long and lat are marked accurately on that map but it did originally come from a BOM page.
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If there are it will make it hotter, won’t it?
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John Christy replies just now that he sent a second set of data to Ken which takes out any Indonesian land, and includes Tasmania. I will update the map as soon as I get the info from Ken.
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Yay we exist again lol, despite SA’s best efforts to make us dissapear (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/tassie-hits-back-at-map-omission/story-e6frea83-1226593014940). Also if our frigid averages cant affect the data then nothing will, its been decidely chilly in the last week or so, however having said that, monthly averages are up by a little in my area if this data counts for much http://www.weatherzone.com.au/tas/northeast/musselroe-bay
Maybe its balanced out by the friction of all the furious interbreeding we do 😀
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/mar/17/climate-change-cut-national-curriculum
The alarmist’s plan was to recruit warriors from kindy and teach CC like a second language
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Too bad it hits them at 14.
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Gee! I wonder who didn’t like #12.
Trolls are so much fun!
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Of course, we steal their innocence and their childhood so many other ways that it may not really matter.
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Ugh – these guys – if they told me the sky was blue I’d go outside to check it hadn’t turned yellow.
Sea temperatures highest on record as well?
We had a few years of BoM being so way over the top in their cyclone predictions for the north-east region that it seems to have become a little embarrassing even for them. So for this year it was to be “about average” or something equally precise. Certain BoM spokespersons now seem to have beaten the number up to about 4? Yet I can’t recall a single Cyclone Watch or Cyclone Warning. Just waiting for another beat-up as decidedly ephemeral ex-Cyclone Tim is turning west. It is fizzling because the sea temperature is too low for it to do otherwise.
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If Tim Flannery has his way it will turn yellow. His plan to cut “global warming” is to throw sulphur into the sky…. and he is serious!
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Oops …
… I’d forgotten about that. Nature follows art?
Nah – Flannery doesn’t exactly represent nature, in spite of being one of the self-anointed High Priests. More like Dunning Kruger effect, or Peak Stupid.
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Looking at the years when the graph started and it was really hot… Wasnt that when hey were scaring us saying we were entering an ice age?
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Complete list of headlines 1970 for ice age
Note the “last year” of ice age alarmism is 1979.
It took LESS THAN NINE YEARS to detect & confirm Alarmist Global Warming (AGW)- Hansen’s 1988 projections.
Despite 17 years of NO warming, it apparently takes 30 years, which is the period of time used to define climate for a region.
Why is that so?
By their own definition, Alarmist Global Warming DOES NOT meet the parameters required to define climate change.
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hey handjive
Why does it take 30 years? Very possibly because most of the pseudo-science mercenaries will be well and truly retired or dead by the time their predictions are corroborated /or not.
Tim Flannery made the mistake of not projecting far enough into the future and I’m sure they have all learned from that. Watch for any that appear under the 30 year ‘marketing plan’ time frame.
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Handjive,
The link is broken this morning. Is there a different one I can use or has the page been deleted?
[I removed the double http://www.http in the link and it works now] ED
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“Weather is not climate! Unless of course the weather can help us ‘prove’ climate change.”
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Correction Warcroft:
March 4, 2013 Weather is now climate.
❝ A few years ago, talking about weather and climate change in the same breath was a cardinal sin for scientists.
Previously, ”weather is not climate” was the mantra, but now the additional boost from greenhouse gases was influencing every event.❞
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Now, every time you wish to highlight any weather event, be it hot OR COLD as “evidence”, simply include this link as official conformation.
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For example;
Climate experts tell us that global warming has made spring arrive earlier. That is why it is -21°C in Minnesota this week.
If we have a “Angry Summer,” obviously, this is proof of a…
…irate, mad, annoyed, cross, vexed, irritated, indignant, irked; furious, enraged, infuriated, in a temper, incensed, raging, fuming, seething, beside oneself, choleric, outraged; livid, apoplectic; hot under the collar, up in arms, in high dudgeon, foaming at the mouth, doing a slow burn, steamed up, in a lather, fit to be tied, seeing red; sore, bent out of shape, ticked off, teed off, pissed off, PO’d; wrathful; wroth….
…Winter!
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UN-IPCC/CSIRO/BoM/Climate Commission JUNK SCIENCE.
Is there nothing it can’t explain? /sarc off
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last night in Minnesota it was -24F (-31C) near the Canadian border. 100 miles south it was -18F (-27C).
A beautiful early spring, the average low this time of year is around 17F (-8C). Tonight we have a blizzard warning…….
I’ll chose “vexed” to describe this cold snap. I just hope I’ll be able go sailing ever again.
Of course we know this is just weather but I just found a climate nugget for this area; the warmest March on record was, get ready, the CO2 riddled year 1878AD.
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-24 degrees, ouch! I remember the coldest I was ever in at +16 F (about -9 C), Gallup, New Mexico, December, 1964. It was early in the morning and at 7,000 feet elevation my car wouldn’t start.
I’m glad I’m in sunny California.
Mark, if you moved here you could go sailing any day. 😉
On the other hand, given politics here I might want to move to where you are. So maybe you should stay put.
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I remember my father telling me that -40 was like -10 with no clothes on, no matter how much you were wearing……
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+16F Roy, you need to get out more. 🙂 That +16 is a possible (has happened before) low temperature around hear from October to May. Last frost is early in June and first frost is mid September
Backslider, I don’t know what your father was doing but I’ve been outside with no clothes on at around -10F temperature. (I was running between the sauna and the hole cut through the ice on the lake).
Not even counting the 32.5F degree water bath, it is MUCH worse than -40F with good clothes on. The beach pebbles freezing to the feet when running back to the sauna is another story.
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MarkD – I can’t get my head around Farenheit temperatures… let me just find online conversion… well it tells me that -40C is the same as -40F, is that correct?
I love saunas myself. Sitting in a very hot sauna (don’t wear jewelry!!!) and then going out into the cold and jumping into the lake is no big deal, its a favourite pastime of the Finns. Just poking around in the open in -40C is a whole different matter…. you will freeze your butt off.
I remember when I was three years old… my sister and I broke some ice in a barrel of water and promptly got it stuck to our tongues 🙂
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Backslider, we have something in common, I can’t get my head around C. either but -40 is where we don’t have to worry one bit they are the same.
My wife’s grandfather liked his saunas hot; over 200F (93C) . Burned one to the ground….He was full blood White Finn (Red Finn being the other possibility).
The temperature -40 wouldn’t be the problem, it is the distance from the hole in the ice to the sauna that could be the problem. 🙂
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Here is the official conversion factor for you both
Fahrenheit
0F 100F
Really cold outside Really hot outside
Celsius
0C 100C
Fairly cold outside Dead
Kelvin
0K 100K
Dead Dead
there that should clear things up a little
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What the…….stupid formatting screwed it up
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That Fahrenheit guy was onto something.
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93C wow!… that’s a warm sauna. I like mine around 80C. Finns will tell you that anything below that is not much of a sauna. Others don’t believe that a person can get into somewhere so hot and survive, but they can.
I left Finland at the age of four, but still remember an amazing amount of things about it. Thankfully there are many Finns in Australia, so finding a sauna is not too difficult – its one of the ways they socialize. Finding a nice birch tree is another story, its not a real sauna if you can’t slap your blood to the surface and the smell of birch is part of the story…. ice water is the best we can do for afters unfortunately.
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During our ANGRY SUMMER :-< i was looking for a sauna to cool down.
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Seeing Jo’s article, a cynic might be forgiven for linking the BOM findings, the carbon taxes and the upcoming September election.
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You mean Gillard wants a hokey stick in her favour?
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Eff it, can’t spell – I meant HOCKEY stick.
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What she will need is a hocus pocus stick.
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I think she’s already got one of those – it can magically transform value into debt.
She has been using it with wild abandon for some time now.
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I was thinking more Hokey Pokey.
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Whatever she’s got (or gets) it won’t be a hockey stick in her favour – round the head maybe, but not in the charts. Metaphysically, of course, people (at least until the court case).
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UAH satellite data is not alone in failing to agree with the BoM “hottest summer evah” claim –
last week I posted – Not everybody agrees with the Bureau of Meteorology claim that Australia has just had its “hottest summer on record”
I compared BoM trends to the only land data at KNMI that was updated through Feb – 1948-now: CPC GHCN/CAMS t2m analysis (land). The differences are not as great as UAH finds.
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Before climate science, unusual weather used to be blamed on Angry Gods.
Now we have Angry Birds and Angry Summer.
Be warned this is just the beginning.
Infuriated Autumn is happening and Raging Winter is just around the corner.
Looks like we will have to wait until after Enraged Spring for any relief.
Season Change is real!
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The official press release states that Enraged Spring, who has been suffering from low atmospheric pressure problems, is now to take anger management therapy in the Northern Hemisphere where guest appearances will be undertaken in order to ruin the British summer (again).
Enraged Spring is to be replaced with Extremely Annoyed Monsoon Season who has just returned from sabbatical in Southern Asia.
I do hope that clears things up.
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Winter in the SH is likely to be moody, and given to sudden chills & frosty stares.
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Ohmgod. It’s worse than I thought. Where does a skeptic ever get a break? Help, help, help! 🙁
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One possibility for the high average from the BOM is the use of more stations over land areas over time. If you use more stations where its hot, then the ‘average’ obviously goes up. More stations can be misunderstood for ‘greater accuracy’, but it can also bias results if they arent actually evenly spread, or they are more clustered when compared to older data.
Another way is to change the methodology of the gridding, such as the overall density and number of stations (software programs specificy what cell size and hit distance one choses when gridding a dataset, which relies on the density of stations, which should also remain constant over time for a meaningful trend).
Another way to increase averages would be to use more urban stations, or the same station data but from areas which have become more urban, or developed, over time. Another way would be to use inappropriate or selective alterations to the data. Another way would be to change the method of actual recording over time. There was a large heatwave in mid January, any change in the number of stations, or the gridding metholology, or the method of recording to ‘average’ this period could result in significantly higher averages compared to other heatwaves, overall.
Another way to distort the presentation is to spice different datasets with different uncertainities, or use different colours to shade the same data. Even the human eye has problems here with shading and colour selection with regards to raw data, the human eye has 3 colour filters (dogs have only 2) which result in a very narrow range for the yellow part of the spectrum, meaning in some colour shading methodologies the middle values are by default selectively squeezed and/or filtered out by the actual contraints that are innate to the evolutionary vagaries of the human eye. (Which has implications for visual art, but that’s another story).
All these methods are highly technical and specific and relate to the internal metholodogy one uses in the software, but both the data and the methodology should be independently checked and verified.
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So there appears a fair discrepancy between satellite (UAH) and BOM summer temperature anomalies (’79 – ’13)? Has an official BOM explanation been sought? Looking at the two overlaid graphs are we certain that they are measuring exactly the same thing? Why aren’t there error bars on the graphed points? In fact, what are the error values for either data set and the significance with 95% CI?
There are also examples of low BOM anomaly values being lower than satellite observations – how is this explained? (apparently some ‘smoothing process’ ?? – checked the referred web site)
Jo states: ‘Warwick Hughes sharply spotted that data from NOAA/NWS/NCEP Climate Prediction Center didn’t match.’ Forgive my slowness here, but didn’t ‘match’ what exactly? Isn’t data from a prediction centre, well, ‘predictive’, that is, not empirical observational data? What am I not getting here?
Apologies if I’ve not followed this discourse so well.
Whilst I acknowledge that ‘adjustments’ of the temperature data and records appears endemic in many official records, indeed to the point of the absurd, and may indeed even be something that is becoming increasingly obvious to all but the most blind, the tragedy still lies in the mindless persistence much of the MSM exhibit in failing to be anything more than a amplifying echo chamber for the ‘Green’ zealot party political line.
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Manfred, fair point, I’ve updated that paragraph to better explain my point — which is about “record summer announcements”.
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Thanks Jo. It helps clarify matters. Nevertheless, I suspect that error bars on the graphs would render meaningful difference in many of the point comparisons redundant, with the obvious exception of the few very large differences that require explanation.
It’s a ‘picky’ point – forgive me – it might be helpful in reading to maintain consistency in the graph line colour if possible eg.the first graph depicting UAH Australia summer anomalies is in red with what appears as a zero gradient trend line, and the second (and same) depiction of the UAH anomaly is in blue.
I think I’m off to have that pre-dinner drink now! A bad case of Monday-itis.
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[…] Rubbish, say the satellite measurements of the UAH: […]
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With their continued “adjustments” of temps to be lower in the past and higher in the present, expect 2013 temps to drop below their current figure in 50 years.. 😉
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The late 1930’s have been badly treated.
They were apparently much cooler, despite the fact that there are still records high temperatures in many places from this period.
I wonder just how much the 1930-1940 temps have been adjusted down in the BOM record.
I’m guessing almost exactly the same amounts as GISS and HadCrud records adjust down the 1930-1940’s in the US record. I suspect the whole record adjustment has been reasonably well co-ordinated.
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Andy – all the records were adjusted by Simon Torok in 1996 as part of his PhD. He used a method that originated from UEA and Phil Jones et al.
Here’s a chart that a friend of mine, Greg Connolly made using the original data from BoM and the adjusted Torok data using his methodology. Torok posted all his data and his methods in a folder on the BoM site which I found so I was able to download it.
http://users.tpg.com.au/johnsay1/Stuff/Observatory_Hill_Full_Adjustments.png
It is Sydney Observatory Hill – the red line is the raw data up to 1993 from his files, the blue line is his adjustments. The chart on the right shows what adjustments were made, when and why. The stepped line in the chart shows temperature adjustments made. This procedure was performed on all Australian Sites.
As you can see the maximum temperatures for Sydney were on the decrease whereas the minimum were increasing obviously due to UHI with the extensive road system and development that expanded around the the Observatory Hill site. The increase in the minimum temperatures caused the Mean temperature to increase hence the claim Sydney is warming.
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Here’s the current chart of Sydney Observatory Hill from the BoM site for monthly maximum temperatures.
http://johnlsayers.com/Stuff/Sydney_Max_BoM.PNG
Here’s Sydney Observatory Hill from the raw data – the data I have is up till 1993 and was the Data Torok documented and made his adjustments to.
http://johnlsayers.com/Stuff/Sydney_Max_Torok.PNG
chalk and cheese.
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Why post the data as “anomolies” versus a 10-20yr average? How does it look if the actual temps are show on the Y-axis?.
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Well, they’ve really buggered up Australian Climate Madness. It used to be really good.
It used to have a list of sites with the latest stories on each site. I could look down that and decide which I wanted to look at.
Now there are just the names of the sites. If I want to see whether there is anything interesting on (e.g.) Bishop Hill, I have to open the Bishop Hill site. And then do the same for the other sites.
Oh, look! When I click the link, it transfers me to that site, instead of opening up a new tab. So before I can go on to (e.g.) WUWT to find out what is new there, I have to go back to ACM. Otherwise, I have to do the right-click thing.
Bring back the old format, says I.
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Some fairly conclusive language being used in this report today
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294560/The-great-green-1-The-hard-proof-finally-shows-global-warming-forecasts-costing-billions-WRONG-along.html
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Not so hot in Europe.
Germany’s Handelsblatt reports that migrating birds are doing u-turn in March. The current cold spell is making many migratory birds reconsider their travel plans.
It seems that the length of day is used by birds as an indicator of when to migrate. Some species are better able to cope with the cold spell following a couple of unseasonably warm weeks in January.
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I may be wrong about this but I cannot see any sign of warmer than usual temps during summer on this animated SST gif from Unisys.
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Steve McIntyre shows how Marcott etc hid the decline and provides a graph of the holocene temps using the omitted end numbers from the real studies.
http://climateaudit.org/2013/03/17/hiding-the-decline-the-md01-2421-splice/#comments
How did these fools expect to get away with this deception?
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Science could just withdraw the nonsensical article. But….bizarre as it may seem, it has purpose in that it is progressively being seen for what it is.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290444/Madness-How-pay-billions-electricity-bills-Britains-biggest-power-station-switch-coal-wood-chips–wont-help-planet-jot.html
Hi Neville
Their frauds and deceptions have an ultimate end that is just so utterly bizarre.
Courtesy of the EU morons and an inept UK govt, they are now converting a huge coal fired powered station in Yorkshire called DRAX, to burning biomass, which are trees grown on 4600sq miles in USA,chopped down and chipped and then shipped to the UK 3000 miles away.
..when all the while the power station still sits on coal seams that have powered the industrial revolution
…and all on the understanding that it,burning trees, doesnt increase the co2 in the atmosphere, because its only putting back up in the air what the trees took out originally…and coal didnt.
What is clear from this is that the scientific and political elites in the UK are just as incompetent and moronic as our own.
Cant blame the owners of Drax, they are taking the Billions of tax lerks and running all the way to the bank..meanwhile the poor old pom are going to have suck up vastly increased power bills.
Will it do anything worthwhile for lowering Co2 emissions …will it hell.
Not when China and India have about 1000 coal fired power stations on the books to be built over the coming years
Verily I say unto you with this standard of thinking, we are basically stuffed, and I blame the shonkademics, for basic incompetence and unhealthy association with greenoids even though they may not, conveniently, now support the burning of biomass.
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Sheer lunacy…. do the Brits still vote?
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Doesn’t anybody just publish raw data anymore?
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‘fraid nudity is considered non-PC.
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ALSO guys, I found something very interesting. the UAH data is overexaggerating the heat sometimes!!! Look, sometimes its way above the BOM line!!! they too have explainin todo!!!
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Seriously Quack, you’re just making a goose of yourself.
Given that you’ve already dismissed the BOM data as corrupted, why would you then cite that very same data to disprove the UAH data? Which is it, BOM or UAH that you trust?? And if you don’t trust either what in gods name are you on about?
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You’re making Sagittarians look bad 😉
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Joanne,
Get a load of this for ignorant responses – two in fact, from a regular troll on Andrew Bolt’s site, who calls himself “Mr Jordon”:
“So you are more trusting of satellite inferred temperature than the actual ground recorded temperatures?
Andrew, satellites do not measure temperature. They infer temperature. But of cause none of the ‘sceptics’ will pick up on the difference.”
And again, in reply to one who tried to point out a few scientific facts and procedures, and answered his point quite well:
“Like I said they are inferred reading. I notice that nobody is prepared to address this point.
Plus that satellite data covers the entire continent. Most of which is desert where nobody lives. Maybe you lot could give us the data for the populated areas where the record temperatures where recorded?
What does the satellite data say about Sydney for example ?”
Talk about scientific illiteracy from these warming believers!
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Good point. Two different types of observations will get you two different results.
Penny dropped yet?
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The so-called ground recorded temperatures are also inferred from various types of ground based thermometers, such as those which rely on the coefficient of expansion of Mercury. The process also only measures temperature at discrete points on the earth’s surface, and then the overall temperature must be inferred from those point measurements.
Satellites simply use a more direct method of inferring temperature by analysing the energy in various electromagnetic frequency bands. This process is inherently more accurate than traditional thermometers, in a point measurement sense, but it is also more accurate because satellites can take a true average reading (rather than inferred) for a wider area.
So both methods require inference, the said troll, like most, really has no idea what he/she/it is talking about.
Nice One is correct, two different types of observation will get you two different results. The satellite based observation will be more accurate than the land-based observation.
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Funny then how UAH, with its far more superior way of measuring tempersture, comes up with the same amount of warming as others.
Thanks for amateur hour, I’ll refer to the ‘experts’ for advice.
From the ‘experts’ there are a few more sources for discrepancy:
– Temps aren’t as easily determined as you make it sound and do not represent the same temps that the BOMs thermometers would read.
– The AQUA satellite is in sun-synchronous orbit, and crosses the equator at about 1:30am/pm. It does not measure the same spot continualously like surface thermometers do, so whilst it may have greater area coverage, it’s unlikely to record the maximiums.
Even more cause to wonder why you guys think the two datasets should match.
Don’t you hate it when us “trolls” use stuff like facts.
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“comes up with the same amount of warming as others”
Yep, basically NONE for the last 16-17 years.
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It’s been a great summer. I wish it never stops. Only once was it above 40, and very few other days above 35. So what if Melbourne had 8 days in a row above 30 recently, that’s one of those dubious stats used to excite attention without it really being meaningful. I recall so vividly Feb 1997 where we had about 20 days over 30, 9 of those over 35, several of those 40+, all in the period of about 23 days. So what if a couple of days in the middle were cool, I’d doubt anyone would prefer that heatwave to the “8 hot days in a row” record. That’s lovely picnic weather.
I also love the hypocrisy of these warming hysterics. They are so quick to jump on anyone that cites records of cold, or snow last December, or even last year’s cool summer, as “one off events don’t prove anything”. Yet here they are doing exactly that with their so-called hottest summer.
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The BOM must have worked exceptionally hard to get an anomaly that big out of nothing. Their “Angry Summer” displays the desperation that CAGW adherents face. With no significant warming in any scientific record, they rely on ‘corrections’. Nowadays local weather is declared as proof of the missing “global warming”.
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So it’s not the same type of measurement, not measuring the same physical part of the planet, not the same area and you get different results?
No way!
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Jo, you had better start getting all the previous March records/averages together. I’m willing to bet that March 2013 will be claimed as the hottest on record.
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And a few posts ago you were telling us it wasn’t hot for the majority of the population of Australia, now you’re telling us the atmosphere well above our heads is a more important measure than the surface temps. Can you explain that??
My what a world of contradictions you guys live in.
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You don’t really understand the concept of remote sensing from satellites, do you?
Here is a hint. They are not measuring “the atmosphere well about our heads”. And they avoid doing that in the same way that they take photographs of the ground, and don’t take photographs of the air in the upper atmosphere.
My what a world of ignorance you live in.
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How the UAH Global Temperatures Are Produced
Nope. They use multiple channels and weighting to calculate the various hPa temps.
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Nice One,
Ah! I see:
It’s now Surface Warming not Global Warming.
Now IPCC is claiming CASW not CAGW?
And Climate Change becomes below 1.8 meter Climate Change. I’m going to build a 2 story house.
Good one Nice One – a new rule for the Flannery GAIA BOM live with the earth (below 6 feet Group).
CASW – what a laugh with red underpants on your head. or
Can Alarmists Shlt the World? LOL!
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Monckton in Canberra? Phworr, he’s game. Talk about being in the belly of the beast!
I can only imagine the turnout.
“And now please welcome on stage Vicount Monckton of Brenchly.”
“Boo! Hiss! Booo! Climate change pays my salary! Booo! The ABC is gospel! Booo! Agenda 21 is my life’s plan! Hisss! Getup, erm I mean GETOFFF!“
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Whatever heretic truths he drops in the belly of the beast, will become mainstream within a matter of months.
Doha et al.
He seems to know no fear.
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And thank science for that!
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BOM is a government agency set up to provide the science to back up the polotical agenda of the time. Once upon a time climate was just climate and it don’t pay all that well.
Now it does pay very well if you do what you are told.
It’s called the “politicisation of the climate”, and its purpose is to create an imaginary global catastrophe that requires big world government to solve.
It is AGENDA 21.
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