The Eco-jihadi’s are back. In the latest creative, artistic work of genius to save the Earth, cartoon Santas get gunned down in shopping malls by the heroine. Blood splatters. The enviro-killers stand over the dead body of one Santa and the caption reads: ” “Making conservation a positive factor in the future would require a huge change in political direction.” Indeed. That’ll cool the world.
It’s 10:10 all over again in cartoon-format. Tony Thomas at Quadrant Online has uncovered the masterpiece “Climate Changed” by Philippe Squarzoni. The editors describe the book on Amazon as “a feat of investigative journalism “ which “weaves together scientific research, extensive interviews with experts, and a call for action.” Action indeed. Action with an assault rifle.
You might think this is a fringe, semi-satirical production, but the book is endorsed on the back cover by Dr. Jean Jouzel, IPCC Vice Chair of Working Group I*. Indeed Jouzel apparently stars in the book, and in Thomas’ words he is the “wise dispenser of IPCC scientific platitude”s. The front cover tells us Jouzel was a co-recipient of the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize — which the Nobel Prize committee would dispute. Shame about the facts, eh?
Get ready, Tony Thomas has uncovered a “Teacher’s Guide” for 15-18 year olds as well. More good wholesome fun for kids.
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On the book’s back cover, Jouzel is enthused:
“What a marvellous way to convey the knowledge accumulated by our scientific community … I am truly admiring of Philippe Squarzoni’s great scholarship on all facets of the climate problem…An extremely well-documented work – which is, of course, essential for the perception of the message that it delivers. But its principal merit is, in fact, in the quality of the narrative and the art.”
Who is a big-tobacco funded scientist, Jouzel?
Squarzoni wheels out the Oreskes bizarre smear campaign about big-tobacco support for skeptics, which is becoming a “hot” topic again with the new Oreskes documentary coming out soon. Incredibly the Phillip Morris money has been going into the climate debate, but not to skeptics!
Earlier, the book’s Santa figures personify fossil-fuel use and smoke British American Tobacco cigarettes.
Author Squarzoni damns sceptics as “relying on scientists who worked for the tobacco industry in the 1980s to put the science in doubt.” This theme is similarly promoted by Naomi Oreskes in her 2010 book Merchants of Doubt, now being made into a Hollywood film by Sony as something of a sequel to Al Gore’s Inconvenient Truth.
I googled for IPCC climate scientists who have taken benefits from Big Tobacco. Who should turn up after five minutes but Squarzoni’s guru, Jean Jouzel himself, a recipient of a 1992 climatology prize from the Philip Morris tobacco corporation.
It gets better, or worse. Squarzoni’s second-ranked advisory source is Herve Le Treut, a coordinating lead author in the 5th IPCC report. It’s taxing my schoolboy French, but under his “Prix et distinctions”, one notices, “Prix Philip Morris (1992)”. Merde, alors!
Nature complained in April, 2001, that the German arm of Philip Morris had been awarding annual research prizes since 1983 without controversy: “Around 100 researchers in Germany, Austria and Switzerland have received the Philip Morris prize…,” it noted. “This year’s winners, announced last week, each take home around US$100,000.”
Even if not identical, the Philip Morris Prizes that went to Jouzel and Le Treut clearly had a family connection to the US$100,000 Philip Morris Prizes offered in the German context.
See the context:
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Other pages are visible at Amazon].
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Killing people is OK, but whatever you do, don’t kill a tree….
“Climate Changed is printed on FSC-certified paper from responsibly-managed, environmentally-sound sources.”
Reviewers at Amazon are oblivious to the murder of the Santa’s, and the totalitarian, violent theme: “It shows obvious concern for future with the climate changing. ” “The graphic format of this book is key to making the facts and complexities of climate change accessible. “ “Expert opinions are communicated succinctly with the words (and visual representations) of the experts in what seems to be a documentary format.”
Amazon readers need some better, more informative viewpoints. I imagine there would be parents who might buy it for Christmas who would appreciate knowing the totalitarian, violent theme, and multiple scientific errors that underlie this production.
Read it all at Quadrant. We are going to be talking more about this.
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* Vice President of IPCC was changed to the correct term Vice Chair
Another twisted psychopath in the ranks of warmist. Go figure. I wonder how many of them it takes to reach critical mass? (or “tipping point”?)
Additionally, we can say that they know little about firearms because the type of firearm depicted would eject spent ammo casings with an entirely different shape. Not very bright are they.
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The sign on the building says, “Nuclear Power Christmas Market”, or “Christmas Nuclear Power Market”, it is hard to know the intent.
This is subliminal marketing (or counter-marketing) that nuclear power (although not producing any carbon dioxide) is where the really bad guys hang out.
This is the worst kind of propaganda, in the mold of Himmler and the Hitler Youth. Does it imply elsewhere, that the Santa’s were Jewish, by any chance?
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It is so wrong (or maybe brilliant as propaganda) on several levels. The Santa (St. Nicholas) is Christian so it has a rather offensive anti-Christian anti-faith overtones; it is, as mentioned below, aimed (bad pun) in a twisted way at the very young even though labelled for mid-late teens; It is anti-gun especially if it touches a nerve (the reader may feel disgusted at the act of shooting Santa but then project that emotion onto the gun itself), It is enticing if not inciting to those that empathize with the principle “cause”.
Clearly these people are at war with civilization as we know it. They should be classified as terrorists and this is a prime example of hate speech.
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This reminds me of the underlying dark satire in Judge Dredd comics that I read many years ago, the obvious differences between Dredd and the above contexts is the fiction vs non fiction aspects, a 22nd century sci fi fantasy laced with memories of recent earth culture and events is far removed from an actual current enviro/political debate with many divisions and actual repercussions that are not so subtly outlined.
If anyone doubts the influence of populist propaganda on the young consider today there are ex conscripts of the Hitler Youth that still believe they were doing the right thing regarding the Final Solution, also consider they were subjected to this type of cartoon propaganda.
A Sydney teenager has appeared in an ISIS video making direct threats of violence against Australia, this young man grew up in a peaceful country with more opportunities offered than most in the world yet still decided that wasn’t enough and has fallen for propaganda targeted at something that is personal to him his religion, how much harder will it be to influence school indoctrinated ‘eco warriors’ into committing similar acts?
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Must be a badly serviced/adjusted/maintained/unsafe rifle to be ejecting them backwards or, as you say, not a very bright artist.
I hunt, and I’m an enthusiastic target shooter but this disgusts me. The American `Answer To All Your Problems:’ pick up a gun and shoot it.
It’s totally uncivilised.
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Little steps for little feet.
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Hand gun shells, ejected from an assault rifle, likely meant to be 223.
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“Assault Rifle” is a term used mainly by the anti-firearm (anti-gun means anti-cannon in the military, because pistols have their own name) mobs that would like to disarm society so that only robbers and authorities (little difference) have them. It more or less entails anything with a pistol grip and full-automatic firing and reloading capability.
These days in the eyes of the abovementioned wimps, anything with a pistol grip (excepting a pistol) makes them go pee-pee and determine it an assault weapon without any other criteria.
If the weapon depicted in the cartoon is a Colt AR-15 then it’s only capable of semi-automatic fire and not strictly an assault rifle, although it still uses 5.56mm NATO rounds as the M-16, which is fully automatic capable.
Note: .223 I believe is an older measurement related to the .22 calibre (long) round (correct me if I’m wrong). It can’t be used in an AR-15 or M-16 due to the shell casing being entirely different and larger in both length and diameter.
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Hi Olaf,
Having grown up in and lived much of my life in a relatively gun free environment here in Australia and then,
more recently experienced the break down of this system, I can appreciate that there are two sides to the story and both have relevance.
Over the last couple of decades the pact between the government and general population regarding law and order has been broken.
Not only is the population at large basically defenseless as a result of the failure to “police” our community and punish criminals but
governments have allowed the importation of legal and illegal weapons on a vast scale so that, as you say, only robbers and authorities
are armed.
Gun crime is way over the top and it is largely gang related; it continues with nobody in power prepared to “bite the bullet”.
Many would say arm yourself but the presence of guns in the home and in the community is not always a good thing as witness the many mass murders worldwide associated with easy access.
I would prefer the model where government has the guns and government is controlled by the people.
That’s the ideal for me but in reality I no longer trust government nor my capacity to influence it in any way.
KK
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ps. I write as an Australian and realise that other countries have greatly different arrangements for organising different levels of government (fed, state, local) and thus policing and law enforcement. It could be that if I lived in particular spots in the USA I might be tempted to own a gun.
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Hot off the press:
“The Canadian capital, Ottawa, has been gripped by fear after at least one gunman shot and killed a soldier at the National War Memorial before opening fire at the country’s Parliament”.
I would suspect that Canada has a similar system of weapons control to Australia and Britain but not sure.
KK
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Thanks Kinky. I also write as an Aussie and agree with you on the “being armed in certain spots in the USA”.
There are certain states in the US that have mandatory carry laws, where gun crime is almost non-existent compared to states where only law abiding citizens are unarmed.
The anti-gun lobbyist cowards will never admit that far more people are killed and injured using knives, fists, vehicles and their own stupidity. They should hang their heads in shame, and be charged with aiding and abetting the wrongful deaths of those that their very brainless lobbying put in harm’s way.
It’s everyone’s Common law right to protect oneself and his fellow citizens against an attack by any means necessary to stop the attack and injury.
Common law has a very simple principle hundreds of years old that is still in force today, but surreptitiously overridden by Statute law, which remains inferior to Common law:
Harm or threat of harm shall not be done to anyone’s life, liberty, property or rights. No harm, no case.
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When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
I prefer the ability to protect myself with any force necessary, rather than have my hands and feet tied behind my back by some lobby group and grabbermint minister’s wet dreams.
I’d prefer that people and the powers that be just leave everyone alone unless an actual crime is being committed. But, “driving” without a licence and “unregistered” are treated as crimes by courts, although there’s no harm done to anyone. They’ll tell you the “State” is the victim, but that’s a fictional corporation that can’t be harmed. It’s a money grab.
Without their paid guards, how many prime ministers, presidents, politicians and other “important” but utterly useless figureheads would feel safer with a handgun under their pillow? All of them.
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KK says:
To which I reply that human nature makes it highly unlikely that your notion describes a sustainable situation.
Exactly! Also why I hold the above to be true. Even modern society and government can and will become corrupt. If the constituents in a democracy cannot defend themselves against tyranny then tyranny will certainly follow. Not maybe, it WILL happen. Only a matter of time.
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Seems I was wrong about the .223:
Its shells have a basic NATO shape but a difference in the throat depth can cause problems firing actual NATO rounds in a weapon designed to fire .223.
I can’t tell what kind of rounds are being used in the cartoon, but it appears to be any variant from the AR-10 (7.62mm round), AR-15 or M-16.
In any case, I hope the vast community show adequate disgust to have the book removed from sale – and then memorialised in The “
Global CoolingGlobal WarmingGlobal Climate DisruptionClimate ChangeOnly Bad Weather Is Manmade” Museum of Big Green Lies.30
Olaf ,
A brief rundown on the .223/5.56 here . In a nutshell a rifle chambered for 5.56×45 can happily chamber and fire 5.56×45 or .223 Remington cartridges whereas only some rifles nominally chambered for .223 Remington can properly chamber and fire 5.56×45 .
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This is deliberately aimed at gullible youngsters, the same way that psychopathic mullahs try and persuade the young and naive to go and fight for something unspeakably evil in Syria and Iraq.
The analogy with those that peddle this type of twisted climate science is obvious.
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It is the 10/10 campaign for the holiday season …
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It’s amazing stuff … I wouldn’t have the imagination to make this stuff up. To be more honest, if I had thought it up I would immediately discard it as being an obvious reverse-Moby (the Moby was originally a left-wing infiltration and trolling of right-wing fora). Is there such a thing as a double-reverse-Moby? Perhaps a double-reverse-Moby with sparkle?
When is the heroine going to jump an ISIS-tattooed shark eating a sceptic?
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I wonder if this could be defined under the hate speech in Australia? Oh, wait…
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18c still rules – only have to take offense…
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I don’t think there is any law in Oz that would cover this. Our entire incitement to violence provisions are all centred around race and religion.
http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd0506/06BD106
“The purpose is to criminalise threats or the incitement of violence against racial or religious groups. Criminal liability will attach only to specific forms of behaviour threats to cause physical harm, threats to cause physical damage, and incitement to commit violence or damage property. The Bill proposes criminal penalties of up to two years imprisonment for both religious and racially based offences if a causal connection between the conduct and element of race, colour, religion, or national or ethnic origin is proved.”
So as per usual with well intentioned and poorly thought through lefty, society tampering. They got it wrong again. Its fine to encourage violence against anyone you like, as long as you don’t do it in relation to their race or religion. Which I guess would mean if one of us advocated going to a tree hugging rally and gunning down some eco loons, we would be covered, because for them its definitely religion.
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Got em on both,
Santa – North Pole – Inuit – race.
Christmas – Christian – religion.
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Wrong. Santa is Sami
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Laplander – race.
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Unfortunately, from what I’ve observed, it’s only conservatives that cause offense. When it comes to the other side, it’s always considered art, humour, social commentary etc.
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bemused, people on both sides seem to be apologising for their comments every single day. I think there’s lots of offense to go around!
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An insect flew through my window and exploded right in front of me , my mate said it was a Jihadi longlegs
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I look forward to BA’s defence of this garbage. Should be interesting to see what videos he has for those awkward times when your followers want to kill Santa.
As for Oreskes. She embodies the problem with this debate. She is completely motivated by opportunism and emotion, shockingly poorly read on the history of both the science and sociology of AGW and prepared to run off at the mouth without a moments hesitation to worry about facts or logic. Sadly this makes her an ideal communicator for an American audience.
And if any final punctuation of Oreskes cack handed nonsense was required. This should do it.
http://www.npr.org/2012/02/22/147263862/climate-scientist-admits-to-lying-leaking-documents
She can write a book about sceptic conspiracies and the damage they apparently do to science, but is not moved at all by alarmists covering up, fiddling with or otherwise corrupting evidence.
Good on ya Naomi, your a truly shameless opportunist riding your sheep like followers all the way to the bank. There are times when I wish I lacked the moral fortitude required to resist doing the same thing.
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Riding her sheep-like followers?
Looked more like she was trying to push them through the fence, as a number of NZ farmers are accused of from time to time…
Apologies to Rereke.
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Yeah my rant created an unintended mixed metaphor. I blame CO2.
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I should hope so. All the sheep round our way are skinny and ugly specimens, with no dress sense.
Most of them are card-carrying members of Friends of the Earrrrrrth.
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Oh, must be hard then to find a decent date….
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Unfortunately the press allow her column inches and they do it because she is just as you describe, ignorant.
I am surprised at the surge in vitriol and anger from the warmists. Dr Karl had a spray on Tony Delroy’s show last week that showed he has given up all pretense of being an objective scientist. He is a doctor so I wonder does he still operate to remove stomach ulcers.
The upside is that the alarmists are following the trajectory predicted at the time of the Climategate release. They have passed the denial phase, the attack phase and have now reached the going mad phase. Next should be the asylum stage although some of the stuff being published lately would suggest that stage has already been reached. Oreske has surely reached it.
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Dr Karl “you get climate science opinions from climate scientists, you don’t ask a chef about the carpentry in your house”. In relation to people like Bolt and Jones commenting on AGW.
Dr Karl who is not a climate scientist then goes on to make comments about climate science and asks the listener to believe him.
Comedy Gold.
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I may not ask a chef about carpentry. But I would be quite willing to ask a carpenter’s opinion about the food produced by a specific chef. Even their examples are putrid.
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Silly Safetyguy66 … didn’t you know Dr K was an expert on everything?
Ironically it is often that the scientists which are popular in the media are not the ones particularly highly regarded by their peers.
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http://www.abc.net.au/nightlife/podcast.htm
Link sorry
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I’m amamzed someone hasn’t taken her to court by now,as I’d think it’s a violation of several laws to publicly smear someone as she has done recently by making a documentary calling DR Fred Singer a “liar for Hire”.http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/10/20/slimed-by-naomi-oreskes-in-defense-of-dr-fred-singer/ Surely a documentary with such a title would have problems with libel,if it was ever aired? Unless it’s now become the new best thing to publicly attack someone when you can’t attack their science?
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“With officials and doctors paid a bonus for every operation, poor and little-educated men and women in rural areas are routinely rounded up and sterilised without having a chance to object.
Activists say some are told they are going to health camps for operations that will improve their general wellbeing and only discover the truth after going under the knife.
Many have died as a result of botched operations, while others have been left bleeding and in agony.
A number of pregnant women selected for sterilisation suffered miscarriages and lost their babies.
Yet a working paper published by the UK’s Department for International Development in 2010 cited the need to fight climate change as one of the key reasons for pressing ahead with such programmes.
The document argued that reducing population numbers would cut greenhouse gases ….”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/apr/15/uk-aid-forced-sterilisation-india
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Sadly that is not ‘made up’, nor does the message need illustrating.
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I feel sick just reading this.
Reviewing the recent past in the USA with all of the angry gun related exploits of emotionally charged people you have to be amazed that
anyone would even contemplate this sort of publication let alone go through with it and then actively promote it.
Between Virginia Tech and the more recent Connecticut child slaughter there have been many smaller cases, surely enough to make
people stop and say:
“LET’S STOP MAKING MASS MURDER FOLLOWED BY SUICIDE THE FIRST THOUGHT FOR ANGRY DISAFFECTED PEOPLE”.
Total insanity from our “Educated Leaders”.
KK
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I will state for the third time on this site.
There is now little or no discernible difference between climate alarmism and terrorism. This is basically the last word on their satisfaction and comfort levels with regard to violence, murder, intimidation and incitement.
Regardless if you even agreed with the sentiments of killing Santas, there are pretty much bound to be children present or in the vicinity. Does the stupidity and carelessness of these idiots know no bounds? They go on about “think of the children”, then endorse the random killing of civilians, potentially including children, in vigilante style attacks on shopping centres ????
I am going to be sending this to a number of politicians including Christine Milne and demanding that she disendorse this publication. I will post the responses here if I get any.
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I think we should feel a sense of achievement for I note the slightest move by some journalists to ask questions of the AGW gurus. The outburst from Dr Karl followed a statement from Tony Delroy that the world had not warmed for 18 years although CO2 concentration had increased substantially. Graham Lloyd at the Australian has bee asking questions of the BoM. Overseas papers, particularly in Germany, are questioning the benefits or otherwise of green energy and green subsidies. This is all positive as is the acceptance by the IPCC that there has been a “pause” in the warming and that their models are not very reliable.
This rubbish from Oreske just proves a desperation and as with the 10:10 abomination this comic will do more harm to the warmist cause. Besides people are more worried about their job security and mortgage both of which are at risk from green policies.
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I said this about the Internet just a couple of threads back as I remember. But it certainly applies more generally too.
ADULT BEHAVIOR IS GETTING HARDER TO FIND ANYWHERE.
I have trouble imagining anyone who wants to be taken seriously wanting to be a part of something like this. And I can’t figure out whether we should go after them with a net and lock them up or just laugh at them. Maybe we should do both.
I guess it’s evidence of their increasing desperation and maybe their decreasing ability to do even minimal critical thinking. But whatever it is they’re getting dangerous. There are enough unstable people around that some of them could take their cue from this book and go on a rampage.
Thank you, United Nations. Thank you, IPCC. Thank you for the way you’re spending our hard earned money against us. 🙁
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Can we put them in a net, and then lift them up, in the air, and call them rude names, and poke them with pointy sticks?
Sorry, just having a Monty Python moment, there.
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No need to apologize. Be my guest and do as you propose. It might actually turn out to be justice. 😉
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Australians seem, on the whole, to be less and less able (or willing) to take responsibility for their (in)actions. From schools providing breakfast to students, teachers expected to be social workers, complaints about junk food advertising, to more subtle things like blaming the government for the ‘unaffordability’ of housing.
The political area has become so combative that it seems almost obligatory for 1 party to complain about what the other is doing, not because of what they are doing, but just because it’s the other party. Any attempts to have reasonable discussions about IS/Daesh, ‘climate change’ or, well, anything, really, are shut down if they are deemed to vary even the slightest from the opinions of a very vocal, very ignorant, and very intolerant section of society. School leavers seem to be less knowledgable about ‘the basics’ than they once were, and get upset if they can’t immediately walk into a high paying job with a perfect ‘work/life balance’, preferably with the word ‘manager’ in the job title. It’s ok to ban all mention of Easter and Christmas in public schools, but any thought of even discussing the banning of particular religious apparel is off-limits….
We might have the capacity for freedom of speech, but in practice, it’s no longer tolerated.
The stunning displays of hypocrisy, ignorance, insularity, political correctness, and ‘groupthink’ at all levels in society, are shameful and depressing, and, really, I am glad I no longer live in Australia, although I haven’t written it off completely (yet), and I’m not in any hurry to renounce my citizenship. My current country of residence has its own share of problems and stupid people, but isn’t quite at the same level as Australia – yet.
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The government IS the main cause of unafordable housing.
Subdivision of land, spread of urbanisation, protection of environment, protection of farm land, extreme difficulty in creating a new subdivision, the shear cost of enviromental protection (creeks, birds, mammals, soil), what they call “infrastructure charges” costs are crazy+, then the high standard and cost of roadways, concrete paths, playgrounds, parks, stormwater trash devices, the cost of new timber for houses, clay for rooves and bricks, minerals for plastics and glass.
Yes, the government IS the main driver for cost of housing.
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OK, so, perhaps I could have chosen my words better. I do not disagree with you.
It is not so much about what the government has, or hasn’t actually done in this regard, it is the overly simplistic view that so many have – blaming only ‘Liberal voting investors’ for ridiculous house prices, and thinking that every single landlord is an evil multi-millionaire slum-landlord, profiting from, and reveling in, the misery of their ‘poor’ tenants, thanks to the apparent endless bounty of negative gearing. (while conveniently forgetting/ignoring that this system was re-implemented by a Labor government – the party who apparently looks out for ‘the worker’)
Yes, it is much more difficult to break into the housing market now than it once was (although I don’t think it has ever been ‘easy’ for the majority of people), but the reasons for this are not as black and white as some seem to think.
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Critical thinking. Critical theory. What’s the difference?
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http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/22/Splattergate-II-green-graphic-novel-celebrates-eco-terrorism-shopping-mall-killing-spree
James Delingpole at Breitbart London has now covered this story.
I’ve linked to this site on HIS blog.
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killing/culling is so CAGW:
this 2008 vido of Ebola Czar Ron Klain is making the rounds:
20 Oct: GotNews: #Ebola Czar Called Overpopulation Top Leadership Issue (VIDEO 1min25secs)
Democratic operative Ron Klain and his wife, Monica Medina, spoke with a Georgetown interviewer in 2008.
“I think the top leadership challenge issue in our world today is how to deal with the continuing, growing population in the world and all the resource demands it places on the world and burgeoning populations in Africa and Asia that lack the resources to have a healthy, happy life,” Klain said.
“We’ve got to find a way to make the world work for everyone,” Klain said. “Climate change is an issue that impacts [sic] that greatly by making it harder for people to live where they live, by causing disruptions, and lack of resources.”…
http://gotnews.com/ebola-czar-called-overpopulation-top-leadership-issue/
saving the planet from CAGW!
20 Oct: NRO: Ron Klain and Solyndra
The administration’s point man on a solar fraud is now in charge of Ebola.
Klain was also a central player in the president’s Solyndra fraud, which soaked taxpayers for over half a billion dollars for the benefit of Obama cronies…
Solyndra was a solar-energy company backed by the family foundation of George Kaiser, an Oklahoma oil magnate and major Obama fundraiser…
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/390677/ron-klain-and-solyndra-andrew-c-mccarthy
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“killing/culling is so CAGW:”
There is a song about it.
Killing In The Name Of (then insert faux justification)
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As with the 10-10 splatterfest, of the many people who worked on this project, apparently no one objected and pointed out just how sick it is.
This is a window into econazi thinking, of both those who write such murderous fantasies and those who endorse them by their silence.
Josef Goebbels would be proud of them.
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The interesting thing is how those who advocate population control always want to start with someone else. Usually someone in the third world or someone who doesn’t share their narrow political views.
I would have thought it was tough to not sound like a monumental coward and hypocrite by wishing less population but still being alive to talk about it. Anyone with the courage of their convictions would start at home.
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It’s their world Safteyguy66.
And you are not behaving yourself(correctly), and are thus no longer wanted (allowed) to play in their world.
It’s simple bully mentality at it’s heart. (Pride, ego, self-centredness, self-importance, or they are simply correct and youre not; I’m not sure).
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“Kill Santa for the climate.”
Alternatively, just strangle the truth. Like the BoM:
20 Oct. 2014:
“Bureau of Meteorology officials, meanwhile, told Senate estimates on Monday that Australia was on a clear warming path, with temperatures rising between 0.71 and 0.76 degrees since 1960, depending on the methods used.”
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/threat-of-air-pollution-to-worsen-along-with-global-warming-warns-climate-council-20141020-118u3k.html
> “depending on methods used.” That would be pre/post homogenisation 1910 onwards?
So, the BoM now plays “hide the drought”.
Try typing ‘federation drought’ into the search criteria: http://www.bom.gov.au
~ ~ ~
The Federation Drought via ‘oogle:
result hit#1-
“The “Federation drought” 1895-1902 – Bureau of Meteorology
http://www.bom.gov.au/lam/climate/levelthree/c20thc/drought1.htm
A description for this result is not available because of this site’s robots.txt – learn more.”
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What a bevy of morons. Santa indeed. They should ask Santa for a brain.
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It’ll drive up reindeer unemployment.
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climate saviour Obama not to blame:
21 Oct: Guardian: Suzanne Goldenberg: US greenhouse gas emissions rise despite Obama’s new climate change push
Federal agency finds that emissions increased during 2014 polar vortex, raising questions about US’s targeted 2020 cuts
America’s energy-related carbon pollution rose 2.5% last year despite President Barack Obama’s efforts to fight climate change, according to new federal data.
The rise in emissions from burning coal, oil, natural gas and other fossil fuels was one of the steepest on record in the last 25 years, according to the Energy Information Administration’s Monthly Energy Review…
The chill Arctic temperatures of last year’s polar vortex can shoulder much of the blame…
The data also showed a 4.8% increase in the use of energy from coal, and a 10% fall in energy from natural gas…
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/oct/21/us-fossil-fuel-obama-climate-change-energy-heat
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Note here how the use of percentages makes the increases seem small.
For the year 2013 coal fired power increased its total generation by 4.8%.
For the year 2014, so far, coal fired power increased its generation by 3.2% so far, and that’s on top of that increased 2013 figure.
That’s despite coal fired power plants closing, so the remaining ones are now working harder than ever.
In 2013 Natural gas fired power decreased by 8%.
In 2014 so far NG power decreased by 3%
When you do the sums for actual coal burned, and NG burned and come up with emissions of CO2, the actual (not percentages) look like this.
2013 – Coal fired power – Plus 101 Million tons of CO2
2014 (so far) – Coal fired power – Plus 52 Million tons of CO2 on top of the 2013 total
2013 – NG power – Minus 56 Million tons of CO2
2014 (so far) – NG power – Minus 1 Million tons of CO2
Overall increase in CO2 emissions – Plus 95 MILLION tons in two years.
There were also increases in CO2 emissions across both years from Petroleum liquids, petroleum coke and other gases, three other forms of CO2 emitting power generation.
That’s over the whole of both years, and not just for the Polar Vortex period.
Incidentally, also spread across the whole of both years, Nuclear power generation increased by 2.6% in 2013, and 3.1% so far in 2014 (that’s on top of the 2013 figure)
Say, wasn’t renewable power supposed to be replacing traditional sources of power, and reducing emissions of CO2.
Tony.
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“Overall increase in CO2 emissions – Plus 95 MILLION tons in two years.”
And the global temperature.. GOING NOWHERE !!! (except by data manipulation)
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another fix in the making?
21 Oct: EurActiv: EU summit to debate multi-billion carbon quota ‘transfer’ system
EXCLUSIVE: European leaders meeting later this week for an EU summit on energy and climate change will discuss proposals allowing energy-rich nations like France and Germany to transfer 10% of CO2 emissions quotas to member states such as Poland, who are struggling to diversify their energy mix. EurActiv France reports…
The idea is for the richest member states to transfer 10% of their CO2 emissions quotas to the poorest, instead of selling them at auction.
Under this system, countries with a diverse energy mix, like France or Germany, would only sell 90% of their quotas at auction, while Poland and other countries with a carbon-intensive economy would receive the balance for free.
The beneficiary countries would then use the money from the sale of these quotas to invest in their own low-carbon energy mix…
This redistribution mechanism will help to realign the energy performance of member states…
A third issue may affect the negotiations. The United Kingdom and the Netherlands refuse to agree to a binding target for fear of excessive costs. One final source of discord could come from Southern Europe, where some countries are calling for greater electrical interconnectivity following recent increases in renewable energy capacity, which have left them struggling to distribute the extra power they generate…
http://www.euractiv.com/sections/energy/eu-summit-debate-multi-billion-carbon-quota-transfer-system-309332
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“It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the “established authorities” are wrong”
Voltaire
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21 Oct: CarbonBrief: Robert McSweeney: Worst case scenarios of sea level rise, and why scientists and policymakers consider them
Sea levels could rise by a maximum of 190 centimetres by the end of the century, according to a new study, which examines a worst case scenario for sea level rise.
In reality, the amount of sea level rise we get is likely to be less than that. But scientists and policymakers examine such ‘worst case’ scenarios to safeguard against climate risks…
The new study, published in Environmental Research Letters, considers the assessment of 13 ice sheet experts. They conclude that the contribution from ice sheets is likely to be greater than projected by the IPCC…
http://www.carbonbrief.org/blog/2014/10/worst-case-scenarios-of-sea-level-rise-and-why-scientists-and-policymakers-consider-them/
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I don’t know of the Dr. Karl character (mentioned in up-thread comments) but can find links on line. Anyway, about the chef and carpentry thing – if I had my check from big oil, enough to design and build a new house, one of the first sorts I would ask for advice would be a chef or 2 or 3. For example, the bedroom is easy – do you put mirrors on the walls or on the ceiling? But the place where you cook and congregate, kitchen and dining areas, – well, I’ve seen some pretty useless spaces and also some interesting ideas. On searches, the number of hits for “kitchen remodel” is in the millions (Bing, 4,760,000; Google, 1,550,000 + more related search terms). Getting the kitchen right seems to be a big priority and who better to ask than a chef?
This is just common sense. Common sense isn’t very common, I’m told. This Dr. K. seems to be a case in point – smart as a chopping block.
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He used to be an amusing and informative “science commentator” on a radio station called JJJ which is part of our ABC. He has recently descended in to a babbling purveyor of nonsense who regularly shoots from the lip with urban myth, generalisations and unsubstantiated gobbledegook.
Its a bit of a shame because as a communicator the AGW fraternity could have used him when he is (was) at his best. Now however he’s more of a liability to their cause than an asset. Its basically like having Fred Scuttle on your team.
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I’m not surprised with what the extreme green movement will come up with as anything produced in the name of ‘Climate’ will be happily aired by a compliant MSM.
Yesterday Gough Whitlam passed away aged 98, undoubtedly a part of Australian history gone but it depends on how an ex Prime Minister is remembered right?, there was a blanket media bombardment lauding the achievements of the Whitlam government before they were booted out unceremoniously by the Governor General, the gushing accolades were almost unbearable until today Miranda Divine wrote a few home truths on the great mans achievements and is already being attacked by the PC crowd regardless of the facts.
No nothing surprises me in this current climate (pun intended) but for a bit of hope here’s links to the Miranda Divine and Alan Jones interviews with Patrick Moore, enjoy.
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Ever wanted to just jump on that ol gravy train and head straight for the buffet car?
Well this could be your chance. Your career in fortune telling starts now!
Ecosystem/Socioecological Modeller “The work will include: collation and analysis of spatial and temporal data; modelling of ecological and socioecological processes; and development and implementation of complex marine ecosystem models.”
http://www.seek.com.au/job/27505159
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Go for it Safety, you can be a ‘Climate Mole’ working on the inside to gather information on our enemy, how exciting. 🙂
Scrap that idea, I’ll send in my ex missus as she’s one of the most destructive ‘Moles” I’ve ever encountered. 🙁
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Ive already been a renewable/wind mole and while it was certainly profitable (highest paying job of my life), eventually my views did make it feel like I was somehow selling out. Additionally I am a compulsive big mouth, I would call BS on someone at the water cooler within 5 minutes then the jig would be up.
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Yes I remembered that Safety, wasn’t having a dig, just using your comment to launch an ‘ex missus joke’ 🙂
I will retract ‘Mole’ and use ‘Slag’ instead, she converted to a CAGW alarmist BTW. 🙁
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Wow that’s like the final insult mate.
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I wish there was an embarrassment emoticon I could use ! 😉
Sorry, can say no more. !
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… Isaac Asimov, in Foundation, 1951.
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Dr Patrick Moore debates Irwin Jackson from the Climate Institute last night on Sky News.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBWTJrS557E&feature=youtu.be
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“Kill Santa for the climate. Is that ISIS or Nobel Peace “Scientists” ?”
What a doozy! You’re right Jo, climate scientists are just like ISIS! It’s incredible that the censors let a book that advocates KILLING SANTA be sold in the first place!
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“You’re right Jo, climate scientists are just like ISIS! “
Religious fanaticism. !
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Yeah!
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“It’s incredible that the censors let a book that advocates KILLING SANTA be sold in the first place!”
Nah, just classify it as yet another d-grade R-rated shoot-em-up video game.
Fiction/fantasy, like the rest of CAGW meme.
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This book is a violent fantasy which has nothing to do with ecology or logic or science or global warming. The tortures and murder of the Spanish Inquisition were also incredibly sadistic and nothing to do with Christianity. Such people exist. To try to argue their motives and defeat their excuses and argue the point is to miss the mental illness. Santa? What part of nuclear energy is represented Santa? No, just a sick mind looking for an excuse to indulge. Give this no publicity.
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Caveat: I did not read the book.
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I must confess to judging a book by its cartoons glorifying the gratuitous murder of multiple Santas as presented. Why would I need the context?
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What is an allegory.
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Tristan
Clever
IE Fruitloop
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Nice one!
What do you call it when Gore dances?
An algorithm.
BOOM!
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Ice could cause grief for Antarctic vessel
http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/ice-could-cause-grief-for-antarctic-vessel/story-e6frfku9-1227098600842
For the first time since satellite records began in 1979 Antarctic sea ice has passed the 20 million square kilometre mark.
**facepalm**
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I guess it’s a facepalm if you don’t read the actual rationale. But if you do, maybe you won’t facepalm!
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Oh look, BA6 is here !! 🙂
Chester’s son, perhaps ?
SF’s second cousin ?
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Thanks for the welcome buddy! Pleasure to meet you 🙂
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Have you ever met somebody named Tristan who wasn’t a leftist dork?
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Tristan is a troll from way back…
I thought he was banned. Maybe the mods can elaborate why they have allowed him a platform again.
By the look of the carpet bombing tactics and the smart ar$e comments, it won’t take long before the mods ban him again.
[Good memory Heywood.] ED
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Didn’t recognise him from earlier.. because I wasn’t here way back.
DID recognise the species.
[Don’t bother getting worked up. Trissy and me go way back. She will have to learn or she will find herself back in the bottle.] ED
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I don’t think I’ve ever been banned. I pop by every so often for a little while (Soros can only afford me for short periods at a time). People love it when I’m here, because it gives them a chance to exercise their spittle-frothing vocabularies.
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“Soros can only afford me for short periods at a time”
No, Soros does not fund Centrelink. !
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Yeah, I always remember the halfwits.
Speaking of way back…. Has anyone heard from MemoryVault???
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MemoryVault will probably smell my comments on the breeze. I think he liked me even more than he liked Adam.
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Aaaahhh The Dr. Adam Smith comittee. That takes me back. Two peas in a pod you and Adam.
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Funny, I was wondering about MV the other day.
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The actual rationale IS the faceplant !
The climate glitterati have tripped over their egos and fallen flat on their faces..
Into a heap of their own BS !!
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“there has been a steady increase in sea ice, which scientists have linked to global warming”. Of course, but what Global Warming? Oh, the water is warmer so more ice? The word people use is counter intuitive. There is another word.
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If I can’t find fault with their science, I’ll accuse them of dishonesty. It’s win-win!
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Tell me Tristan,
If Antarctic sea ice was at record low levels, not at unprecedented high levels (in the satellite era), wouldn’t the warmist brethren claim it was proof of global warming?
And if Antarctic sea ice was average, wouldn’t that be “consistent with” global warming also?
Is there any extent or configuration of sea ice that isn’t consistent with global warming?
Just where does the onus of proof in proposing a theory reside again?
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Sea ice extent, to me (arctic or antarctic) is of less interest than the global ice mass balance. If I want to look for an indicator of a warming world in the ice, my metric is a simple one. Is there more or less ice in the world? Sea ice is subject to all sorts of things like changing currents and cells etc.
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How accurate are our measurements of global ice mass?
Can we compare our current level to any meaningful time frame, say 8 to 9,000 years?
Does it say anything at all about attribution?
What else would one expect after a 300 year mini ice age? More ice?
You are, as usual Tristan, completely disingenuous, cherry picking data and give it import it doesn’t possess. Your conclusions are politically motivated, self-rationalizing, and ignores the lack of predictive accuracy of your hypothesis.
Nobody is arguing that the world hasn’t warmed (so why do you pretend that this is so?), the more pertinent questions are how much, is the data even remotely of a quality sufficient from which to derive any objective conclusions, are natural warming cycles and cooling cycles solely or mostly responsible for any observed warming, and do we have sufficient understanding of how climate systems operate that we can substantially explain all the rapid fluctuations in global climate that are characteristic of the Holocene interglacial period.
If one cannot explain these fluctuations over the last 11,000 years, I respectfully suggest that you and your brethren have no idea whether these forces are influencing our current warming period, and to what extent we therefore need to be concerned at rising CO2 levels, and over what time frame a transition away from fossil fuels needs to occur, if at all.
This uncertainty stands in stark contrast to the likelihood of massive suffering, poverty, starvation, sociopolitical turmoil, and economic disaster that would result from destabilizing the global economy with an ill considered precipitous transition away from fossil fuels to less efficient modes of energy generation that alarmists propose.
Given that alarmists intend to depopulate the globe, and participate in passive genocide on a scale that would make Hitler blush, I can understand why you might want to gloss over the holes in your precious hypothesis, but excuse me if I don’t share your enthusiasm for its lack of rigor and objectivity, or its tendency to ignore the various inconvenient truths that stand in contrast to its predictions of Eco-apocalypse.
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Let’s count the snarl words and accusations shall we?
disingenuous
cherry picking
politically motivated
pretend[ing]
brethren
alarmists
depopulate
genocide
Hitler
gloss over the holes
ignor[ing]
Eco-apocalypse
A full dozen!
Now, if you can manage to compose a post without all the silly behaviour, I’ll be more than happy to respond.
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You forgot “passive”.
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Nice avatar by the way.
“Hammer and sickle” – nice symbology for a regime famous for starving 25 million people plus in the Ukraine for political gain, a regime that Western apologists pretended was a paragon of virtue while scientists who opposed the pseudoscience of Lysenkoism were taken out in the woods and shot, and that still imprisons and murders dissidents without trial to this day.
Let’s just go through that list:
-disingenuous- so mean! Don’t be such a hothouse orchid- and your reply itself is a dictionary definition of disingenuous in avoiding answering perfectly appropriate questions.
-cherry picking- well now that is just getting personal. Seriously, that is the warmists stock in trade, their whole raisin d’etre. Without cherry picking, and thus looking at the Holocene as a whole, there would be no alarm.
– politically motivated- look at your avatar, and tell me you are not a Marxist. Puhleeease.
-pretend- that’s just vicious- how can you take such vitriol?
-brethren- hmmm.
-alarmists- well, you are alarmed at the effect of rising CO2 or their would be no need for massive taxation regimes, transition to renewables before they are fit for purpose. Raising the alarm about the urgency of impending climate tipping points, extreme weather events, inundation by rising sea levels, melting ice in Greenland and Antarctica, and other signs of an impending ecoapocalypse is somehow not alarmist? Surely you jest.
-depopulate- every alarmist I have spoken with or interacted with on the Internet believes the world is overpopulated and this is the prime reason for their concern re CAGW. Many advocate openly for birth control, one child policies, forced sterilization, etc.
– genocide- far be it for me to suggest you’d ever get your hands dirty by actually participating in genocide. Rather you prefer the passive kind, where the most vulnerable at the bottom rung of the ladder, living on less than a dollar a day are forced into starvation by rising energy costs impacting on food prices, the forced requisition of arable land for carbon credits and for biofuel production, etc. Far more effective means of achieving the aims in the point above.
– Hitler- this gentleman was a rabid Eco-zealot, living on organic produce, a strict vegetarian, who banned hunting and planned to turn Germany into an ecological sanctuary where the only endangered species were humans. He was, and remains, the father of the Green movement, their patron saint and chief source of inspiration. If the cap fits, unfortunately you must wear it.
-gloss over holes- ????? Really?
-ignoring- OK, now that is just getting silly.
– Eco-apocalypse- see above.
Those making grand and extreme claims need to have incontrovertible proof, not wild speculation dressed up in scientific clothing. It merits vigorous debate, allowing disbelievers and believers to put forward their arguments unfettered by bullying, vilification and without the threat (even implied) of loss of tenure, reduced job prospects or income.
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Still [SNIP]
[Remind me Tristan, why were you banned before?] ED
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Convenient.
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If you [Mute]
[See above question Tristan] ED
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“If you can avoid the loaded language I’d be happy to engage”
Yet your very first posts here were full of sly underhanded innuendo.
You marked yourself immediately.
So don’t try the poor me victim stuff now. !
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There’s no [snip] comrade.
[snip]
[Tristan, why were you moderated so many months ago?] ED
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“Nice avatar by the way.”
It is Winston, especially when viewed from a little way back.
It evokes the true spirit of the Christmas season; lots of green and red and sparkles.
KK
Merry Christmas to all.
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And tell us then Tristan, what is that balance?
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“Sea ice is subject to all sorts of things like changing currents and cells etc.”
And COLD temperatures.
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NO actually, The annual sea surface temperatures for the Southern Ocean show a cooling trend since the start of the Reynolds OI.v2 dataset.
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Dr Roy Spencer explains why 2014 will not be a record warm year and he even calls the land based temp adjustments fictitious. Remember that version 6 of the UAH data set will soon align it more closely with RSS measurements.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/10/why-2014-wont-be-the-warmest-year-on-record/
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“In my opinion, though, a bigger problem than the spotty sampling of the thermometer data is the endless adjustment game applied to the thermometer data.”
The strange thing about that comment, is that the Satellite data requires far more adjustment that sea surface temps, because it doesn’t measure temperature directly, has to account for orbital drift etc etc. The satellite data is regularly adjusted in order to more accurately record temperatures, and it should be.
On top of that, the unadjusted temp data and the adjusted temp data from SST readers are almost identical when it comes to the global picture.
On top of that, the Satellite readings aren’t measuring SST anyway, it’s completely plausible for SSTs to hit a record but lower trop to be below record (as we already saw with 2005 and 2010).
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Poor child-minded BA6 doesn’t know the difference between adjustments for known systematic errors, (RSS, UAH) and the wholesale agenda driven manipulation of data to follow the cause.
Go back and do a basic science or engineering course before you bother posting again…..
please.
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Poor child-minded BA6 asks the Griss this: If it’s wholesale agenda driven data manipulation, why is the global trend from the raw data, the same as the adjusted data?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/22/comparing-ghcn-v1-and-v3/ (from A Site You Can Trust™)
Certainly a funny sort of agenda. Conspiring to adjust temperatures such that they…look basically the same as they did before.
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By Zeke and Moshpit., “Climate Manipulators Inc” !!
You really are a clown, !
Why is it each consecutive BA becomes more like Baldrick ??
And why does GISS bear no resemblance to the new pristine USCRN since it was established.? Gavin at work 😉
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Your favourite clown wonders why you haven’t addressed the fact that the raw trend and the adjusted trend are basically the same.
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How much toilet paper can one data set use ?
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Your favourite clown wonders in why you persist in not answering the question, and wonders if you realise that the US mainland is 2% of the earth’s surface, which is why, despite significant divergence between raw and adjusted US data, globally, the raw and unadjusted series are in tight step.
Looking forward to your response.
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Please post your link for the “unadjusted” data that you assert conforms with the trend for the adjusted data. Otherwise you are merely making an assertion without evidence.
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Scroll up 🙂
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However, a couple years later and now we see this (from same site as your link): http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/06/28/the-scientific-method-is-at-work-on-the-ushcn-temperature-data-set/
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That 2% of data from the US is probably the best quality data.. and its a total mess.
You have NOT posted any raw data. You don’t really think that GHCN data is “raw” or “unadjusted” do you.
Seriously ???
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Tell you what, BA6. I dare you to make Steven Goddard’s site somewhere you visit every day.
Give yourself a good look at the data corruption and manipulation that is taking place in the US temperature record, and generally around the world.
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Let’s face it, the ONLY temperature data that is even worth looking at is the post-satellite era satellite data.
Everything else is just a meaningless maladjusted kludge !
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cont. in the newer post,which is actually about temp data
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So, no argument about the fact that pre-satellite temperature data is a monumental farce.
.. didn’t think so. !
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I’ve posted in the temp thread, there’s an open offer for you to join me. I think we’d have fun x
[I recall having a lot of fun with you in the past Tristan. Do you remember?] ED
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Sorry, I cannot give what you what you FEEL you are ENTITLED to.
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22 Oct: SMH: Peter Hannam: Abbott government ‘intent on destroying renewable industry’, companies say
The Abbott government appears determined to destroy the emerging renewable energy sector to protect Australia’s fossil fuel industry if its plans to lower the clean energy target are any guide, wind farm developers said….
The revised goal of 26,000 gigawatt-hours annually by decade’s end is down from the previously bipartisan goal of 41,000 gw-h….
It appears, however, to have bowed to a public campaign by the solar panel industry to leave the small-scale element of the scheme unchanged. Scrapping this component would have raised the cost of panels for homeowners by about 40 per cent.
The Solar Council welcomed the reprieve for small-scale renewable suppliers as “a very positive development”, claiming credit in part for its “Save Solar Campaign” that had targetted marginal electorates…
Large-scale developers, though, said the government’s stance would mean few if any new projects went ahead…
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/abbott-government-intent-on-destroying-renewable-industry-companies-say-20141022-119xlw.html
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Perhaps the Abbott government should classify CO2 as “clean” and “beneficial.”
Apart from the mining and transport aspect of the raw material……
the modern coal fired electrical industry is actually one of the CLEANEST sources of power available.
It produces very little real pollution, and its main waste products are totally beneficial to all life on Earth.
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Abraham’s insults come thick & fast:
22 Oct: Guardian: John Abraham: Another global warming contrarian paper found to be unrealistic and inaccurate
Abraham et al. show that a paper by ‘sceptics’ Spencer & Braswell is rife with unrealistic assumptions in an overly simple model
It’s hard to find a reputable scientist who denies that human emissions of greenhouse gases are warming the planet and that there will be consequences for human society and the biological health of the planet. There are a few holdouts who, for various reasons, either think humans are not causing warming or that the warming will not have much consequence.
Some members of this vocal minority spend a lot of time trying to convince the public that they are right…
Well, again this year, I’ve wasted my time (and my colleagues’ time) by rebutting a 2014 paper published by the darling of the Dwindling Few, Roy Spencer…
Before we get into the errors, let’s talk about what their model does…
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2014/oct/21/global-warming-contrarian-paper-unrealistic-inaccurate
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21 Oct: The Blaze: Erica Ritz: PayPal Co-Founder Is Skeptical of Man-Made Global Warming for This Reason
PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel, often considered one of the most influential people in Silicon Valley, said Tuesday that he is skeptical of man-made global warming because many refuse to allow debate the subject.
“Whenever you can’t have a debate, I often think that’s evidence that there’s a problem,” Thiel said on The Glenn Beck Program. “When people use the word ‘science,’ it’s often a tell, like in poker, that you’re bluffing. It’s like we have ‘social science’ and we have ‘political science,’ [but] we don’t call it ‘physical science’ or ‘chemical science.’ We just call them physics and chemistry because we know they’re right.”…
“The weather has not been getting warmer for the last 15 years. The hockey stick that Al Gore predicted in the early 2000s on the climate has not happened,” he remarked. “And I think as this monolithic culture breaks down, you can have more debates.”…
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/10/21/paypal-co-founder-is-skeptical-of-man-made-global-warming-for-this-reason/
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19 Oct: Boston Globe: Latif Nasser: When island nations drown, who owns their seas?
As climate change jeopardizes the huge ocean claims of tiny nations, experts propose some bold legal solutions
Over the past several years, it’s become clear that one of the starkest potential effects of climate change is the existential threat that rising oceans pose to the world’s low-lying island nations…
A set of legal scholars from around the world has started to propose new ways to conceive of these ocean rights, so that if and when the islanders are forced to move, their economic domains might still survive as a national asset…
Several, including UC Berkeley School of Law’s David Caron, have observed that changing sea boundaries aren’t just a problem for islands: The rising ocean promises to redraw every coastline on the map. Instead of constantly updating maps every time a beach is submerged, they suggest, why not freeze the boundaries in place? For low-lying islands, this would mean that the sea as currently measured around Kiribati would become the permanent patrimony of its people—and wherever in exile they end up, the population would continue to receive royalties from its former coastal waters…
Rosemary Rayfuse of the University of New South Wales in Australia takes a different route to a similar outcome. “An equitable and fair solution,” she writes in a 2013 anthology documenting a Columbia University conference on Threatened Island Nations, “would be the recognition in international law of a new category of State, ‘the deterritorialized state.’”…
, such a landless state does exist today. The Knights of Malta (not to be confused with the country of Malta) are a 900-year-old lay Catholic order who today have no land, but do have a nonvoting seat at the United Nations…
http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2014/10/18/when-island-nations-drown-who-owns-their-seas/hyH9W5b1mCAyTVgwlFh7qO/story.html
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Say kids, gun er bad, M’kay?
Put down the pop tart.
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News flash of old news: No difference between ALP and LNP. MemoryVault proven right. Liberal-in-name-only Party are corrupt sellouts, peddling scams backed up by fallacies.
Oh I don’t know, whatever happened to the enormous national debt and hole in the budget that you told us about during the last
scareelection campaign? Sorry, did I commit the crime of remembering something?Growth? Tchya! When you take money from taxpayers and give it to fly-by-night solar panel installers and PV manufacturers in China then OF COURSE rooftop solar panels will be an area of strong growth. THE GROWTH WOULDN’T HAPPEN WITHOUT THE SUBSIDY. It’s circular logic.
Because the Liberal-in-name-only politburo will sit in their ivory tower and decide which of their industry pals are “under economic pressure” and who can just go to the wall.
I look forward to seeing Tonekiel al Abbottabad dressed in a tutu dancing to Bill Shorten’s tune while singing “Australia is open for subsidised business!”
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Your use of quotation marks around “Scientists” reminded me of a brilliant turn of phrase I encountered recently.
“Putting ‘climate’ in front of ‘scientist’ is like putting ‘witch’ in front of ‘doctor’.”
Sadly, I can’t recall or track down where I heard it. Can somebody help me out? It was recent.
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Found it!
I encountered it at this website: http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/2014_october.htm
Google tells me it was coined by John Bignall.
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I am already writing the sequel.
The Return of Santa.
A lone commenter, dressed as Santa Clause, goes on a killing spree killing eco- terrorists.
Chapter 3
As Santa , blood dripping onto his boots, raises his SMITH AND WESSON MODEL 500 , can of COCOA COLA in his other hand , he takes a sip “hmm , refreshing”, two eco- terrorists appear from behind the KELLOGS CORNFLAKES, he takes aim and calmly dispatches them, cornflakes shower over the floor…. as he looks past the ANDREX TOILET ROLLS , more eco – terrorists appear. “Hmm” says Santa surveying the thousands of products beautifully laid out , ” gonna be a busy day”.
Part two tomorrow – Can Santa take on the busload of eco- warriors arriving at the Supermarket. Can he save the Supermarkets produce.
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Alternate title: Klebold and Harris’s girlfriend “fixes” capitalism like they fixed school bullying.
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In America, The Girl Scouts have been dragooned into the Climate Wars
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