Star discovered in our solar system.
The Onion, ahead of the worlds scientific societies, reports on a “watershed moment” in scientific history:
Scientists Trace Heat Wave To Massive Star At Center Of Solar System
PASADENA, CA—Groundbreaking new findings announced Monday suggest the record-setting heat wave plaguing much of the United States may be due to radiation emitted from an enormous star located in the center of the solar system.
Scientists believe the star, which they have named G2V65, may in fact be the same bright yellow orb seen arcing over the sky day after day, and given its extreme heat and proximity to Earth, it is likely not only to have caused the heat wave, but to be responsible for every warm day in human history.
The “tremendous ball of energy” may explain everything from drying puddles to hot car seats.
Governments will have to act, though the path is unclear:
When asked if anything could be done to prevent or counteract the star’s heat production, Kivens expressed skepticism.
“No, for the foreseeable future, I think we’re locked into orbit with this thing,” he said. “Although the star seems to disappear every night, 24-hour reports from around the world seem to indicate the star never leaves Earth entirely.”
Residents of heat- and drought-stricken regions welcomed the findings, thankful to finally have an explanation for the high temperatures, if no relief from them.
“That makes sense, because it’s usually hotter when that [star] is up in the air,” said Stillwater, OK resident Asher Arps, … “The big star heats the earth, and the moon cools it—I get it,” he added.
Many mysteries still to solve:
…renewable energy specialist Dr. Martin Flint said “We still don’t understand how it’s possible for that thing to be up in the sky in January when it’s freezing outside.”
Read it all: Heatwaves traced to massive star
Thanks to the GWPF for finding this one.
What piffling nonsense, everyone with a brain knows it’s damp CO2 and termite farts moving by Lunar attraction that keeps us warm.
Now saddle-up the Unicorn I’ve got windmills to tilt at.
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Oh my god is it true 🙁 A friend and I have been talking about the direct link to the decline in pirates and the increase in temperatures. I’m half way through building my pirate ship to help lower temperatures and now I don’t know what I will do. Maybe I can just sail around he globe in front of the star so I wont get to hot.
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And here was me thinking that the big stars were all in Hollywood, CA.
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Thanks for this – something to burst out laughing at when the “real news”** is all so desperately gloomy. (**Assuming I know what the real news really is.)
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Believe me. You don’t want to know what the real news really is. It is worse than you thought.
I have corroborated intelligence, that it is only a matter of time, before that massive star goes nuclear.
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When that happens the scientists say we will all be covered the iridescent of universal lumiferous calorific aether fluids, this will later condensate to fairy dust.
The big challenge is this may push CO2 levels above the 500ppm! and we all know what happens then.
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Double post?
Damn the fairy-dust!
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When that happens the scientists say we will all be covered in the iridescent of universal lumiferous calorific aether fluids, this will later condensate to fairy dust.
The big challenge is this may push CO2 levels above the 500ppm! and we all know what happens then.
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Twice the fairy-dust means twice the tickles.
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What about if you get hay fever?
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Yes, but we in Big Academia prefer to phrase that process in the literature as, “the latter will subsequently undergo condensationization to empyrean particulae.” This clearly implies greater robusticity in our conclusions.
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Well I am glad we cleared that up. It has been worrying me for some time.
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Rereke,
I thought the great worry is that it will go viral. Isn’t that the current craze? So what’s with this going nuclear? I never heard of that before.
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Roy, Going nuclear (with or without the capital letter), means to experience a run-away reaction. Where the reaction runs away to, is unknown. There is one hypothesis that the reaction has a holiday home, and that is where it runs away to. Whether this is feasible, or not, is one of Physics biggest questions.
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It can’t be true – it just can’t be true !!
Geoff W
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What did they say yesterday?
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Tongue firmly in both cheeks.
And the really funny thing is that it makes more sense than the nonsense being sprouted by the believers in CAGW.
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It probably makes more sense because it’s true.
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I don’t know if anyone else has noticed, but I have observed that since June 21, the days have been getting longer. If this alarming trend continues, as climatologists tell us climate trends are wont to do, then it is only a matter of time before we will be perpetually illumined by that blistering thingy in the sky.
I fear for the kiddies.
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Yes, I know how you feel.
But, I hear a rumour that Jo is putting together a task force, made up of some of the most able contributors to this site, to address the lenghtening days problem.
If what I hear is true, we should start to see some improvement early next year. I only hope that is correct. I am concerned that the extra sunlight will play havoc with my exterior paintwork.
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Worse than that, Rereke, I hear that our stupid government is going to legislate turning our clocks forward one hour in October, giving us a whole hour’s more radiation from this monster star each day. Never mind your paint, just think how your curtains will fade as you will need to keep them closed. And the poor cows, they will never get used to the extra sunlight and will stop giving milk – or do the models say.
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– so the models say. Sigh!
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But that is terrible! I have just invested heavily in cornflake futures.
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Popcorn futures is where the money is. Worth dabbling in salt and butter futures too…the complete investment portfolio!
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Ehhee
Salt is a good investment for the future
As with all the cold & snow etc in NH – salt prices have been increasing since 2014 mainly through salt usage on roads!
Because of SNOW – you have to laugh though!
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Good graciousness! Children will not know who David Viner is.
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Funnily enough, parts of the Melbourne road to Ballarat suffer from black ice badly at times.
Weiord thing is, having lived int he UK, I suggested gritter trucks with salt….it was like I had 2 heads….
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“Salt is a good investment for the future”
You bet! Just read the packet label:
“Pure salt. Mined from 200 million year old salt deposits.
Best before: DEC 2018”
Clearly, it is degrading when removed from the ground. Peak salt is approaching!
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Many the day’s end with work still to do my father asked me to put a prop under the sun. I never found a prop that could do it, so I’m not much help.
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But in the northern hemisphere the days are getting shorter. It is only a matter of time before it will be perpetually dark. I fear it will get very cold.
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Do you think that the shortening of days is caused by the EU, in retaliation for Brexit? I wouldn’t put it past Brussels to get vindictive, like that.
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I am UpOver at present and in a complete panic with the shortening days…what’s to be done?
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Setting the clocks back in one hemisphere and forward in the other would mean that north and south hemispheres will be twisting in opposing directions. We must all stop playing with our clocks, lest the planet split in two at the equator like a pea.
In Germany, they are calling such clock manipulation tageslichtrettungszeit. In my home country, we consider it merely, as you are saying in English, “rubbing Peters to pay Paul.”
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Jorge,
The late Prof S warren Carey, Tasmania, was fond of collecting reasons why developing theories of plate tectonics were incomplete and failed to explain a great deal. He even proposed an expanding earth hypothesis that made several problems fit together nicely. Part of the expanding earth theory involved the plasticity of the crust and upper mantle, which he demonstrated to be plastic by looking at the Equator.
He proposed that the Nth hemisphere had different inertia to the Sth, so that rotation was at slightly different rates for each. If you run your eye along the Equator, you can see the Nth hemi rotationally lagging behind the Sth, giving sigmoidal shape to easy to see around Panama.
Just for interest. Neither plate tectonics nor expanding earth solves all big problems.
Geoff
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Sleep in.
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The day lengthening and shortening is explained by Harvey’s Law as explained by Elwood P. Dowd classic paper “Pooka-Time In The Rabbit Hole” while on his speaking tour of Akron. Basically time varies seasonally in increments, much as dry martini consumption varies.
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That is useful to know. Although I have to admit that every dry martini I have consumed of late, has been noticeably damp. You just can’t get decent service these days.
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” … but I have observed that since June 21, the days have been getting longer.”
Absolute nonsense. 97% of Climate Scientists in Europe, Scandinavia and North America say the days are getting shorter.
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There is obviously a need for the United Nations to step in to this emerging debate, to form an International Panel for Day Duration, or IPDD, for short.
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The reason we celebrate Christmas on 25th December was most likely to coincide with existing pagan festivals honoring Saturn (the Roman god of agriculture) and Mithra (the Persian god of light). History Channel. Literally ancient peoples did believe the Son was dying every year.
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Allen Ford said:
Quite rightly so. This star thingy has the ability to melt ice cream long before it can be consumed. Children soon won’t know what ice cream is.
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You think you’ve got it bad. Think of us in the northern hemisphere. Well, soon be in perpetual night, never to see anything again. I’m sure that’s what will happen because up here they want to do away with electricity and anything, even candles, that puts that evil CO2 in the air. What’s left? Moonlight
I tell you we’re doomed, doomed for sure now that you’ve discovered that the days are getting longer downunder.
I never thought that research could lead to so much fun in one thread, Jo. Magnificent job of reporting on it too. Thank you! 🙂
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The mind bogeleth….
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This is almost as scary as that dangerous dihydrogen monoxide stuff you hear about….and it’s nuclear!
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That dihydrogen monoxide is probably worse than you think. It is simply crawling with isotopes.
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Thankfully most dihydrogen monoxide has reached a critical energy level whereby crystallization spontaneously occurs — at least in this bar it does.
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True Rereke,
H1, H2, H3.
O15, O16, O17,O18 and another 13 radioisotopes wioth half lives of less than 27 secs (most in milliseconds)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopes_of_oxygen
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Well there you are … thank you Peter
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Glad I’d finished my coffee before I read this. 🙂
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Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!
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Will these miserable excuses for scientists ever learn to open their minds to the vast store of alternative universes that have been created by the now long dead great scientists of the distant past who without fear or favour and with only a regular obsequious bow to Pope, caliph, priest and King, scientifically examined and concluded just what the real structure of the Universe consisted of which fortuitously just happened to coincide with the religious beliefs of the despots of the times who was most likely paying them for their research, a system which is still existent in a lot of science today!
A scientific process that has changed little over the tens of centuries past and is ongoing today including the now long established historically based obsequious bowing to the newest of religious orders, the Holier than thou adherents of the Church of the Cult of Climate Change and Catastrophic Warming and the scientific conclusions that the planet is warming at an unprecedented rate which has nothing to do with that furiously churning ball of white hot energy than transects our sky each day with monotonous regularity.
A view which strangely and co-incidently is directly in agreement with the ideological underpinnings of the adherents of the “Church of the Climate Change Cult.”
Will the Climate Scientists of today ever learn that if the facts don’t fit the case then change the facts as suggested by no less a celebrity than Albert Einstein himself.
Oh! They do, do they?
My! They are quick learners aren’t they!
Will they ever learn to consult the truly great minds of the far distant past who carefully weighed all the facts and who unlike these common scientists of today’s science came to the following inescapable conclusions on the structure of the Universe, depending of course on whom they were being paid by, just like the climate scientists of today.
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Quoted and edited slightly version follows;
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“Cosmos” is just another word for universe, and “cosmology” is the study of the origin, evolution and fate of the universe. Some of the best minds in history – both philosophers and scientists – have applied themselves to an understanding of just what the universe is and where it came from, suggesting in the process a bewildering variety of theories and ideas, from the Cosmic Egg to the Big Bang and beyond. Here are some of the main ones, in approximate chronological order:
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Brahmanda (Cosmic Egg) Universe – The Hindu Rigveda, written in India around the 15th – 12th Century B.C., describes a cyclical or oscillating universe in which a “cosmic egg”, or Brahmanda, containing the whole universe (including the Sun, Moon, planets and all of space) expands out of a single concentrated point called a Bindu before subsequently collapsing again. The universe cycles infinitely between expansion and total collapse.
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Anaxagorian Universe – The 5th Century B.C. Greek philosopher Anaxagoras believed that the original state of the cosmos was a primordial mixture of all its ingredients which existed in infinitesimally small fragments of themselves. This mixture was not entirely uniform, and some ingredients were present in higher concentrations than others, as well as varying from place to place. At some point in time, this mixture was set in motion by the action of “nous” (mind), and the whirling motion shifted and separated out the ingredients, ultimately producing the cosmos of separate material objects, all with different properties, that we see today.
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Atomist Universe – Later in the 5th Century B.C., the Greek philosophers Leucippus and Democritus founded the school of Atomism, which held that the universe was composed of very small, indivisible and indestructible building blocks known as atoms (from the Greek “atomos”, meaning “uncuttable”). All of reality and all the objects in the universe are composed of different arrangements of these eternal atoms and an infinite void, in which they form different combinations and shapes.
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[ Diagram of Aristolean and Ptolemic Universe ]
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[Ahem, Snipped the rest, it’s copyright, so people need to follow the link! – Thanks — Jo]
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OOPS!
My bad on that copyright which I didn’t pick.
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(sarc)
Say, I’m doing a PhD at UQ, and seriously, I think I might be ahead of all you guys on this.
Me and a couple of others are working on a Government Grant for this right now, and we think we’re looking good actually, for perhaps a couple of mill or more even.
We’ve been tracking G2V65, and we’ve found something really neat.
The rays from this Giant seem to hit the earth at a variable rate, and we’ve been able to track it, and then graph it. It’s just like a Bell Curve, and an example of this is shown at this link, and this is from 27Feb2016.
We also think we may actually be able to do something with it, but that’s still a bit secret right now, but think of that stuff that comes out of the hole in the wall in your home, if you, umm, get my drift here, but hey, don’t tell anyone, because we think we may be the first to discover this use.
Tony.Some guy at UQ! (but don’t tell anyone, because if it doesn’t work, I’ll deny all knowledge)(/sarc)
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Mouse droppings?
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Tony, on this thread you don’t need a sarc tag.
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It’s interesting that when Galileo (1564 to 1642) suggested that Copernicus (1473-1543) was right, no one was so upset.
Good brother Copernicus had been dead for a dozen years and kept the revelation of the earth going around the sun to his death bed but people could see the sense in what he was saying and really it makes no difference if our planet goes around the sun or the sun goes around the planet. Both are true.
However putting the star at the centre made the mathematics of all the other planets a lot simpler and completely explained retrograde motion. So all the planets went around the sun and in a flat plane, which is why they chased each other across the sky, sometimes going backwards.
It did not explain why the moon only showed one face though.
What upset the star worshipers was that Galileo with his primitive telecope, built on only snippets of information from Holland, plotted sunspots. Nor even the other moons going around other planets or the ring on Saturn upset people. Two of Galileo’s observations really upset the priest scientists. One was that it had sunspots and was not at all perfect. The religion of Sol was subsumed into Christianity at the time of Constantine and was still there in the halos. A faulty star was not acceptable. Secondly the sunspot patterns showed clearly that the star rotated every 26 days! Now that was truly scary. It was also heresy and while he had the permission of the pope to publish, the outcry from the priest scientists who knew everything was enough to have him under house arrest for the rest of his life. So there was a James Hansen before NASA. They had real political power and access to the Pope.
So it pays not to notice things which contradict religion. Pointing out that the sun is just another star was a step too far, even for Galileo. The religious scientists will get you for even suggesting fossil fuel CO2 is not the cause of all heating. The role the newly discovered star plays in our climate is secondary. Only windmills can save us. Or Section 18C will get you when the religious scientists of the ABC start reporting hurt feelings and call in the religious lawyers.
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Quite so. Giordano Bruno pointed that very fact out and was eventually burnt at the stake, possibly for some even more heretical opinion. The record of his trial has been purged from Vatican files. Galileo never agreed with Bruno. No fool, he. Well, not much.
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If the sun really does heat things up, then why hasn’t the moon melted?
Cheese, even your harder cheeses, do not have particularly high melting points.
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Think it’s called THE SUN…….
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Ah, the wrapping they put around fish and chips in the UK is called “THE SUN”, even though it is not very efficient at keeping the fish and chips hot.
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The Sun is used for absorbing the cooking grease used for your fission chips..
Everyone knows that.!
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AndyG55@n #13.1.1
And other uses as well!
And “The Sun’s” Page 3 was often found in some numbers in teenage boy’s rooms.
Thats after the Old Man had first cast his, ahem!, lingering glance over Page 3 to check the quality of its content.
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Yes it’s the Sun, stupid – sort of like the phrase “it’s the economy, stupid”. Trouble is the world in general and the governments in particular are full of fools who don’t even know the difference between fact and fiction, and often swap them around. I bet even George Orwell would be surprised as to what’s happening today. A complete reset of the whole system is now the only way to bring common sense back.
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Shakes head, goes for another beer. Wonders, dare I look at the monitor again tonight.
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It’s breakfast time mirth here Stan.
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What’s wrong with beer for breakfast. Goes great with sausage.
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stan stendera,
Return after you’ve read that there is now low carbon beer!
I can’t wait for a new low carbon, organic and responsibly sourced, low calorie brew that is sustainably manufactured, and sold as artisan beer by one of the big multinational brewers. [It’ll have a sour odor of stale sheeple sweat with the mouth and pocketbook emptying bitter flavor of blatant profiteering.]
You know it will happen…
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It already is, See no tricks zone.
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Horrors, I didn’t know about Portland. Well, it’s in Oregon so I guess it’s understandable.
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Also on the west coast of Victoria.
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But is it gluten-free?
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That just means that they don’t charge you for it/
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They already sell low carbon sugar in the states ,WUWT had a post about it some months ago and I’m still laughing .
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It’s amazing, at the end of all these studies they always solicit for more grant money.
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JO!
Is this a typo?
OR
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Not a typo. As phrased, it is more a function of temperature and time.
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Dave, I reckon that if you own a poodle..
… you would probably find the ABC web site more to your liking 🙂
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There are proper poodles in the hunting dog tradition – try reading John Steinbeck’s “Travels with Charlie”
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I’ve often wonder what that big yellow thing in the sky was.
Pointman
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I always wondered where it went at night, and why it never came back before the morning – although I swear some days there was a slight hint of ‘the walk of shame’, so maybe it has some storied to tell.
I guess I probably shouldn’t be staring at that big yellow thing in the sky so much?
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Funnily enough so have I, until recently that is, when I finally realised that it couldn’t be that emanating luminescence radiating from the puckered black hole of climate ‘scientivists’, defeating all the known laws of physics associated with black holes.
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According to the Koran it sinks into a puddle of mud in the west.
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This is why I wear tinfoil hats.
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While I was reading this I assumed it was a spoof. Isn’t it?
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Yes, everyone who is anyone knows that CO2 is solely responsible for generating all heat on Earth.
Those highly knowledgeable and well respected atmospheric physicists Al Gore, Tim Flannery and Cate Blanchett told me this, so it must be true.
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Yes, of course, James. Silly of me.
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Margaret, I just hope we all wake up in the morning. Is that a bad sign or a good sign?
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That is why I have a CO2 furnace to keep me warm in the winter. Natural gas makes a nice flame, but it’s the CO2 that keeps me warm!!
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If in doubt, check the tags in the grey bar at the bottom. Even there are only a few paragraphs of wild exaggeration it usually seems fair to tag it satire and parody. Maybe I should add a tag for pure spoof too.
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When I looked at those tags, I read Satyr, instead of satire.
“Ho, ho”, I thought, “we are in for some debauchery here”.
Then I thought, “How can you debauch something, that is not in a previous state of being ‘bauched’?” It is obviously one of life’s ineffable mysteries. Perhaps it will all become clear, when the black coffee intake compensates for last evenings imbibition.
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‘While I was reading this I assumed it was a spoof. Isn’t it?’
No Margaret or it wouldn’t be yellow.
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People. It certainly is getting warmer every year, but the ‘sun joke’ ran dry about 20 posts ago.
It certainly ain’t funnier with each telling.
Now…. the Defcon t-shirt. I can’t figure out whether it’s funny, sad, or just simply adorable.
All three, I think.
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The fact that warmists have been at Defcon 5 for 20 years is funny,sad and
adorableannoying.50
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“?” … Ross admits he is CLUELESS.
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“It certainly is getting warmer every year”
ABSOLUTE B**LS**T….from the start !!!
But that is the ONLY thing your have.
The ONLY warming in the satellite ear has come from NATURAL El Nino events, and ocean oscillations
Those ocean oscillations now point to a cooling trend over the next decade or 2.
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Behead those who slander the anhydride of carbon!
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here comes the sons!
James & Lachlan Murdoch’s Nat Geo Channel have an October surprise in play for US Election 2016, and James Packer is one of the producers, along with his RatPac partner, Brett Ratner, who partnered Julie Bishop at the G’Day USA Los Angeles fashion week Australian designer showcase last October!
30 Jul: Variety: Laura Prudom: Nat Geo Acquires Climate Change Pic from Leonardo DiCaprio
National Geographic Channel has acquired the worldwide rights to an untitled climate change feature documentary produced by Fisher Stevens and Leonardo DiCaprio, the cable network announced at their Television Critics Association summer press tour panel Saturday. NatGeo plans to release the film theatrically in New York and Los Angeles in October, followed by a global premiere on National Geographic Channels worldwide preceding the U.S. election in November.
The film presents an account of how society can prevent the demise of endangered species, ecosystems and native communities across the globe…
Subjects include President Barack Obama, Former President Bill Clinton, Secretary of State John Kerry, United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and Pope Francis, as well as top NASA researchers, forest conservationists, revered scientists, community leaders and fervent activists working to save the world…
“National Geographic has a long history of inspiring others to care about the planet,” said Courteney Monroe, CEO of National Geographic Global Networks. “Now, in the midst of the undeniable crisis that is climate change, we have a responsibility to inspire others to act. I have no doubt that the global reach of our brand, combined with DiCaprio’s passion for this issue and Fisher’s compelling storytelling will bring this critical issue to the forefront like never before.”
“Climate change is the most fundamental threat facing our planet,” said DiCaprio. “We must work together as a collective voice to demand major action now. Our very survival depends on it. This documentary translates the symptoms and solutions of climate change before information is distorted, as it often is, by those with a financial interest in fossil fuel production.”…
The project is produced by RatPac Documentary Films, Appian Way and Insurgent Media. It is produced by DiCaprio, Brett Ratner, Stevens, ***James Packer, Jennifer Davisson and Trevor Davidoski and executive produced by Martin Scorsese…
http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/nat-geo-leonardo-dicaprio-katie-couric-documentary-1201827155/
read all. no wonder i never watch the Channel:
17 May: Bloomberg: Inside the Murdoch Makeover of National Geographic
HBO, not Discovery, is the model for Rupert’s sons, James and Lachlan.
And by paying the society a substantial sum, 21st Century Fox would gain tighter control over the expression of the National Geographic brand in print, on TV, and on the Web…
Not everyone saw this as good news. Various observers fretted that Rupert Murdoch’s conservative worldview, particularly his boisterous skepticism about global warming, might warp National Geographic’s editorial mission even more than the amateur treasure hunters. On Twitter, Greenpeace called the marriage “bad news for nature lovers.” In a clip on YouTube, Jane Goodall, the celebrated primatologist and former explorer-in-residence at the NGS, told The Winnipeg Free Press that at first she’d assumed news of the deal was a prank. Critics circulated mock versions of future National Geographic covers, with headlines ranging from “The 10 Most Reagan-esque Animals” to “The Joy of Coal.”…
But while these commentators focused on Rupert’s political views, it was James who drove the deal. “[He] came and spent time with the trustees,” says Jean Case, chairman of the society’s board. “We became sufficiently convinced that his passions in these areas are very real.” Known among business associates as the most environmentally progressive of the Murdoch clan, he and his wife, Kathryn, run Quadrivium, a nonprofit foundation dedicated to a range of causes, including scientific education and the protection of oceanic fisheries and other natural resources. According to biographer Michael Wolff, Rupert sometimes refers to James as his “tree-hugger son.”
The $725 million investment was his first major move as Fox CEO. The deal has received strong support from his older brother Lachlan, Fox’s executive chairman, who is an avid rock climber and underwater photographer…
Months after the deal was announced, James and Lachlan Murdoch remain actively engaged in Fox’s prized new asset…
Every year the magazine’s photographers congregate at the society’s headquarters for an exhibition of their work. This year the Murdoch brothers attended the seminar and mingled, admiring the shots of camel silhouettes and lightning-struck villages. In November the magazine published an issue devoted to climate change. Susan Goldberg, editor since 2015, says that afterward she received a congratulatory note from Murdoch, saying he’d “gathered his family around” to read through the important issue. She says he’s made only one editorial suggestion to her. “James is an environmentalist,” Goldberg says. “He said, ‘I wish we could do more stories about why people don’t believe science.’”…
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-05-17/inside-national-geographic-s-hbo-inspired-murdoch-makeover
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On the other hand, de Sousa’s “Hillary’s America,” a realistic look at the damage done by progressivism, is making him a multi-millionaire. If he can get it in more theaters this summer, he will be wealthy indeed and it will negatively impact the image many have of Hillary, the crook who is too big to go to jail.
At one point in July, before the Republican convention, she and Trump were within a few points of each other. She was spending $500,000 a day on advertising and Trump was spending nothing (he didn’t have the money), and all she could manage was a standoff. During the Democrat Convention Trump enjoyed a 6 point lead and it stayed there. The Dems inner circle is getting terrified, according to Rush Limbaugh, who is a credible source for these things.
BTW, I am NOT a Trump supporter. Both of these crooks will be bad for our freedoms.
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I live in a little country far, far away but can you tell me how a great democracy like the US can select two such unsuitable candidates for the presidency as you have? And what will either do if elected about correcting the great myths of our time such as climate change, postmodernism and the very corrupt financial system?
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Kelvin I live on a large island in the Southern Hemisphere and we have a newly elected PM who is totally unsuitable for the position.
Democracy around the Western World leaves a lot to be desired.
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Democracy is a political system that allows the most lightweight of thinkers to float to the top.
And as Churchill pointed out, Democracy is a very bad way of organising a society. But unfortunately, it is better than all of the alternatives.
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A benevolent dictatorship at a federal level is worth considering.
How about socialism with Chinese characteristics?
‘Victorian schools are pocketing $10,000 from a Chinese government body and getting free teaching and course materials to offer its Chinese language and culture courses.’
The Age
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At one time when I was very angry and in conversation with an army colonel he told me that cream rises to the top. My immediate response was that so did slag and rubbish.
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***The Republican platform calls climate change policy “the triumph of extremism over common sense.”
nevertheless, NYT’s Davenport finds so-called “Republican” pollster/strategists willing to go on the record:
2 Aug: NYT: Coral Davenport: Climate Change Divide Bursts to Forefront in Presidential Campaign
During the 2012 race for president, the issue of climate change was nearly invisible…
But this year, as Hillary Clinton thrusts climate change to the heart of her campaign, the issue is taking on a prominence it has never before had in a presidential general election…
The (Democrat) party platform calls for a price — essentially a tax — on carbon pollution…
***The Republican platform calls climate change policy “the triumph of extremism over common sense.”…
Some Republican strategists say they are concerned that Mr. Trump’s views on the issue could push younger voters away from the party for the long term…
“The way you talk about climate change sends a signal to millennials about how sensitive you are to the environment,” Mr. Whit Ayres (Republican pollster) said. “Millennials recently passed baby boomers to become the largest generation, so any party that hopes to own the future politically needs to be attractive to millennials.”…
He (Trump) has said he would “cancel” the accord reached last year in France that commits nearly every nation to taking action to curb climate change…
“It’s important for the next generation of Republicans to show that they get it, and that they’re not just playing the old orthodoxy,” said Kevin Sheridan, a Republican strategist who was Mr. Ryan’s communications director when he ran for vice president with Mr. Romney in 2012.
Mr. Sheridan and other Republican strategists said it was unclear how Mr. Trump’s dismissive position on climate change would affect the party’s future.
“Anything that Trump says where he uses rhetoric that something’s a hoax or crooked — no one else in the party gets lumped in with that,” said Douglas Heye, a Republican strategist who was deputy communications director for Eric Cantor of Virginia, a former House majority leader. “That’s Trump-specific bombastic rhetoric.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/climate-change-divide-bursts-to-forefront-in-presidential-campaign.html?_r=0
what Davenport doesn’t mention!
21 Jul: Prospect: Eliza Newlin Carney: Trump to Political Pros: You’re Fired
Trump’s impulsive, improvisational style, his reliance on Twitter and social media over TV ads, his limited fundraising, his failure to bring in many seasoned political pros to advise his campaign—other than the controversial Paul Manafort—have done more than leave an army of GOP pollsters, speechwriters, fundraisers, and strategists out of work this year. Trump has challenged the very notion that politics is serious business that demands professional knowhow. If anything, his resistance to expertise has fueled his success, not hampered it.
“In most of our lives, we tend to want professionals who know what they’re doing—whether it’s pilots flying an airplane, or surgeons cutting on our families, or engineers building a bridge,” says leading GOP political consultant Whit Ayres, who did polling for Florida Senator Marco Rubio’s ***unsuccessful*** GOP primary bid. “But Donald Trump acts as though he knows better than people who have done politics for a living—that his instincts are better, that his knowledge is greater, and that his judgment is better. So we’re going to have a test of that hypothesis come November.”…
For a long list of seasoned GOP strategists and operatives who worked on the campaigns of Bush, Arizona Senator John McCain, and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, the mood is “depressed, discouraged,” says Ayres. Some of the GOP consulting world’s leading lights, such as Fred Malek, McCain’s former finance director, and Marc Racicot, who chaired Bush’s re-election efforts, have found an outlet in impassioned op-eds that call on Trump to exhibit more discipline, or explain why they are not backing Trump…
But Trump’s erratic campaign, which has been plagued with firings and infighting, and is thin on staff, funding, polling, data gathering, and campaign infrastructure of any kind, has left the political consulting class bemused and even a tad offended. Trump revels in his rejection of the professional fundraisers, strategists and “party establishment” types, which was central to his appeal during the GOP primary…
http://prospect.org/article/trump-political-pros-you%E2%80%99re-fired
lol.
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The warmists should eat humble pie,
And learn to accept,not deny,
That the most likely cause,
Of the Warming and Pause,
Is that star,the sun in the sky.
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After thinking about Kerry’s assertion that my air conditioner in Yuma, Arizona, is a bigger threat to me than ISIS, I’m finding it harder and harder to separate the real world from fantasy. When a spoof story makes more sense than some of the work being published in so-called scientific journals in the U.S., it makes your grasp on reality kind of wobbly if you read too many of them.
Come to think of it, my air conditioner IS a bigger threat than ISIS. In the Southwest the complete unit sits up on the roof. If it catches fire it could burn my house down, as has happened on rare occasion to others. Meanwhile, I spend as little time as possible in gun-free zones.
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It’s funny,I may have missed something,but did anyone notice there wasn’t any gun violence at the DNC?
Philadelphia has both “Conceal carry”and “Open carry”gun laws and some of the “DemocRATS”wanted gun bans in place for the event,but the “Police”chief refused to ban fire-arms,because it would have been against the”Second Amendment”So far I haven’t heard of any “Shoot-ups”Why?
Hillary to ban guns and trash the second amendment-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVQ5Oyin6jY (Mary Bayer Grubber)
Why do you think they put a big fence around the DNC?To stop the people from escaping,before they get “Fleeced”?
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‘Hillary Clinton tells Fox News Sunday she is “not looking to repeal the Second Amendment,” but she does intend to regulate it.’
Breitbart
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But what proof do we have? So here is my proposal;
First we get a rocket that can get to the sun, or at least close. Then all the greenies get on the rocket and it is launched to the sun. When it gets there, the greenies can disembark and report back what they found on the sun. NASA would love it! So would I! Front page news for The Onion!
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They could go at night when it is out (wallowing in its mud heap?) or during winter when it is cool.
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Jo thankyou for posting this one from the Onion. I’ve been smiling all day at this.
Always loved the Oinion for their accurate news reporting and of course the “teeshirts” 😮
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More on “Beware of experts”
”
Their greatest asset is our short memories: In forecasting the future, experts are generally no better than everybody else. They might be worse.”
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2016/08/what-would-we-d-69.html#comments
and link
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‘Current temperatures are proclaimed as the warmest on record. In fact, the world was warmer than today for 97 percent of the last 10,000 years.’
Tim Ball
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The delegation to the UNIPCC Conference in Copenhagen told other delegates about the three warmer than the present periods in the history of civilisation in China, each a period of greater prosperity as crop yields increased …
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Over 3,600 years of civilisation in China.
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Over 3,600 years of civilization, and yet they still needed the Americans to invent karaoke.
I’m just saying …
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RW, some times you are more weird than I! Still most weird is Brad Keyes! 🙂
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Ah! Now there is a master of weirdery. A person that I could look up to, if he wasn’t so short.
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Weird, but in a good way. Take a step ter the right.
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Lewis wrote to Game: “the ability of the expert to explain his subject so that the layman can understand, is a sign the expert actually knows his stuff.” Clearly the expert to be understood is Dr. Spencer and can not be Christopher Game. I was explaining what it was that ‘Lewis understood very well’, which was what Dr Roy wrote, not the trivia of Christopher! Again:
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Sorry for #29.1.2
I was only trying to see what a blockquote looked like! 🙁
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And you accuse me of being weird?
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Hell Why not!
“Climate modelers have been proven to be tone deaf. All the tuning in the world will still result in lousy music.”
If only we could get some few good jazz musicians to hang out with some good JPL engineers for a while. So that the slow dance of solar system planets together with beats, flanges, and whacks, could be converted into sound, symphony , or even horrible noise. Perhaps then some earthlings could get a clue of the ever present is 🙂
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Will
There is a precident from a different field
“I conceive naval warfare to be much like chamber music”, he said. “Thirty-calibre machine guns, those are the violins, the fiftys are the violas, six-inch guns are perfect cellos”.
He looked up a little sad. “I’ve never had sixteen-inch guns to compose with. I have never had any bass”.
The item “Sea Warfare” in John Steinbeck’s “Once there was a war”
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not The Onion, but MAXIMUM MAJOR MSM serious coverage for this today:
BBC: The Simpsons mock Donald Trump and endorse Hillary Clinton
Republican candidate Donald Trump is seen with a copy of a book called Great Speeches by A. Hitler in the video.
When Homer signals that he might vote for Trump, Marge says: “If that’s your vote, I question whether I can ever be with you again.”
Homer replies: “And that’s how I became a Democrat.”…
of no interest to the MSM:
1 Aug: ConservativeTreehouse: Must Protect Hillary’s Optics – Thousands of Trump Supporters Turned Away By Democrat Mayor and Fire Marshal in Columbus (Ohio)
The venue is the Greater Columbus Convention Center – “Exhibit Hall E”. And has a banquet seating capacity (tables and chairs) of 4,140. – SEE PDF – With auditorium or stadium seating the capacity easily exceeds 6,000…
According to the Columbus Dispatch the Fire Marshal, a Democrat named Kevin O’Conner, made the arbitrary decision to turn away thousands of Trump Supporters and not allow them to enter the venue. It was the fire marshal who set the arbitrary attendance limit at 1,000…
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/08/01/must-protect-hillarys-optics-thousands-of-trump-supporters-turned-away-by-democrat-mayor-and-fire-marshal-in-columbus/#more-119598
1 Aug: AmericanMirror: Kyle Olson: Ohio mayor that restricted Trump crowd size today campaigned with Hillary YESTERDAY
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/oh-mayor-restricted-trump-crowd-size-today-campaigned-hillary-yesterday/
PICS: 1 Aug: PRNTLY: Aug 1st: As Trump sells out Daytona arena, Hillary barely draws 100 in Ohio rally
http://prntly.com/2016/08/01/aug-1st-as-trump-sells-out-daytona-arena-hillary-barely-draws-100-in-ohio-rally/
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Completely O/T but it’s looks like Turnbull is going to have some real competition, from Bernardi
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/conservatives_sign_up_with_bernardi/#commentsmore
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Attention: ian18888 you might like to read my comment at the end of comments at Weekend Unthreaded.
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lots of info…and plenty of shilling for smart meters:
31 Jul: Guardian: Michael Slezak: From solar boom to bill shock: Australians face loss of rooftop payments
Jonathan Shaw got solar panels installed on the roof of his home in Sydney in 2011 and ever since has been riding something of a gravy train.
He has been getting 60c for every kWh he sells back to the grid. That’s much more than the 25c he pays for each kWh he buys from the grid…
He’s one of more than 275,000 people across Australia who will see the subsidised payments they receive for their solar energy disappear over the next six months, replaced with rates up to 80% lower…
In NSW, very generous deals were on offer between 2010 and 2012. People who signed up then have been on those rates ever since.
What’s more, the NSW scheme offered that rate for every kWh they produced, rather than just the excess they didn’t use themselves…
But from 1 January 2017 they will get paid as little as 5.5c per kWh for the power they put back into the grid…
One thing that can help anyone make the most of their solar electricity is a smart meter, says Claire O’Rourke, national director of Solar Citizens, a group that lobbies on behalf of solar customers…
Unfortunately, for most people on the NSW solar bonus scheme, their meters will need to be replaced.
For those customers, their meters were sending all of their solar generation into the grid. And all the electricity used was coming from out of the grid. So really, these consumers were not using any of their solar power directly…
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jul/31/australia-residents-solar-rooftop-lose-payments
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While exploring RenewEconomy, I found a new report by the Climate Council of Australia “debunking” the effect of renewables on the cost of electricity in South Australia
MYTHBUSTING: ELECTRICITY PRICES IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA
I thought I’d share the comment I left at RenewEconomy (it may well be disappeared like a few others I’ve left there)
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A couple of brief observations about the CCA report
In Section 5. Spot Prices and Price Spikes the report states
This is entirely based on the recent article by Giles Parkinson which filtered out any price spikes under $5000
However, one of the other referenced sources, 2015 Residential Electricity Price Trends by the Australian Energy Market Commission,states
http://www.aemc.gov.au/Markets-Reviews-Advice/2015-Residential-Electricity-Price-Trends/Final/AEMC-Documents/2015-Residential-Electricity-Price-Trends-report
Section 7 Will More Renewable Energy Pose a Problem for South Australia? of the report states that
Try as I might, I cannot find this statement in either of the AEMO reports referenced. I did find the following from the 2015 SOUTH AUSTRALIAN ELECTRICITY REPORT by the AEMO
http://www.aemo.com.au/Electricity/National-Electricity-Market-NEM/Planning-and-forecasting/-/media/B1859FD41F3F4818974F6E8440FC5786.ashx
Section 7 also states
The following paragraph in the UPDATE TO RENEWABLE ENERGY INTEGRATION IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA report states
and finally Section 7 says
The complete statement in the UPDATE TO RENEWABLE ENERGY INTEGRATION IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA report is
http://www.aemo.com.au/Media-Centre/-/media/FF73430276AF4F479CC32026E7156BD9.ashx
Not exactly minor omissions by the CCA.
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Still, this is the level of accuracy and detachment we should expect from an organisation led by Timmy Flannelly.
I’m sure I could find more, given a bit of time
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Analik
“The following paragraph in the UPDATE TO RENEWABLE ENERGY INTEGRATION IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA report states”
How about
“The following paragraph in the UPDATE TO RENEWABLE ENERGY INTOXICATION IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA report states”
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I’m sure there are plenty at the AEMO who wouldn’t mind the renaming
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subscription required to read Booker at the Tele:
30 Jul: notalotofpeopleknowthat: (Christopher) Booker On Hinkley
In the nick of time, it seems, a glimmer of sanity is at last breaking in on what I have long been describing as the most insane single project a British government has ever put its hand to. We can credit the decision to put on hold our agreement for EDF to build the most expensive power station in the world at Hinkley Point to Theresa May’s joint-chief of staff Nick Timothy: the man who, having back in April described the Climate Change Act as “a monstrous act of self-harm”, was also behind the abolition of the Department for Energy and Climate Change (Decc).
Until now, the absurd story of Hinkley has been as vivid an example of the self-deluding power of groupthink as could be imagined. All those ministers swept along by it, such as Ed Miliband, Chris Huhne and Ed Davey, should hang their heads in shame…
Although the UAE only began talks with Korea in 2009, the year we began negotiating with EDF for its two 1600 megawatt (MW) reactors at Hinkley, the four 1400MW reactors for the UAE (hence their name APR1400s) are already under construction, with the first due onstream next year and the rest to follow by 2020. For £15 billion, they will thus supply 5600MW of electricity, much more than Hinkley’s 3200MW, so grotesquely subsidised that even Decc admits its cost could eventually be £37 billion.
This is the dreadful fiasco from which, literally in “the Nick” of time, it seems we may now be saved., Of course we desperately need reliable nuclear power, to make up for the inadequacy of all those intermittent windmills. But we should forget about the French and Chinese and get on the phone to Korea as fast as possible…
READ THE COMMENTS
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2016/07/30/booker-on-hinkley/
1 Aug: BBC: China ‘warning’ over Hinkley Point delay claims
China will not tolerate “unwanted accusations” about its investments in the UK after the delay of the Hinkley nuclear power project, the country’s state-run news agency has said.
Xinhua said it could not understand the “suspicious approach that comes from nowhere to Chinese investment”.
It follows reports suggesting the UK PM has national security concerns about China’s role in the project.
Officially the Chinese government said it hoped for a speedy resolution.
French company EDF, which is financing most of the £18bn project, approved its investment last week – but in a surprise move the UK government then said it wanted until early autumn to review the scheme…
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36943792
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Here is another perspective, its not because of security concerns.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2016-08/02/content_26305380.htm
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1 Aug: NYT: Henry Fountain: Looking, Quickly, for the Fingerprints of Climate Change
Dr. van Oldenborgh is not an emergency responder or a disaster manager, but a climate researcher with the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute. With several colleagues around the world, he took on the task of answering a question about the floods, one that arises these days whenever extreme weather occurs: Is climate change to blame?
For years, most meteorologists and climate scientists would answer that question with a disclaimer, one that was repeated so often it became like a mantra: It is not possible to attribute individual weather events like storms, heat waves or droughts to climate change.
But increasingly over the past decade, researchers have been trying to do just that, aided by better computer models, more weather data and, above all, improved understanding of the science of a changing climate…
“Scientific teams are taking on the challenge of doing this kind of analysis rather rapidly,” said Peter A. Stott, who leads the climate attribution group at the Met Office, Britain’s weather agency…
“There are very legitimate reasons why people want to do this rapidly,” (David W. Titley, a professor of meteorology at Pennsylvania State University) said. “But they need to state very clearly what the assumptions are, what the methods are, what the confidence level is”…
“This is still not like predicting what time is sunrise for New York City tomorrow,” he added…
Rather than running models after an event, researchers like Dr. van Oldenborgh and Dr. Otto shorten the process by using models that have already been run.
“The only way we can do this rapid attribution is by ***precooking everything that we can,” Dr. van Oldenborgh said.
The process starts with emails among members of the group, usually followed by a Skype session to discuss whether a specific event is worthy of study. (One group member is in Australia, so arranging a conference call can be tricky.)…
***“We have to make sure we’re open-minded enough to conclude that, although we’ve spent a lot of time on this, we can’t conclude anything,” he said…
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/science/looking-quickly-for-the-fingerprints-of-climate-change.html?_r=0
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science you can trust:
1 Aug: University of California: Andy Murdock: Can you trust what you read about climate change?
Emmanuel Vincent and colleagues at the Center for Climate Communication at UC Merced had an idea: What if scientists could review online articles about climate change for accuracy?
Their online project, Climate Feedback, has made this a reality, powered by a growing group of Ph.D.s from around the world who volunteer their time to review articles on climate change in the mainstream media. There are currently over 100 scientists in the ranks at Climate Feedback, hailing from institutions all over the globe, with expertise in climate science and related topics including public health, food security, forestry and marine biology.
Fixing climate journalism
At a time when portions of the the public are increasingly hostile to experts of all sorts, is throwing more scientists at the problem going to help?
Vincent is optimistic. A Yale study from 2011 found that more than 75 percent of Americans trust scientists on climate change, while less than 40 percent trust journalists or politicians.
“People really want to hear from scientists. People care about who is speaking,” he said…
The biggest challenge for Climate Feedback is scale: there’s so much misinformation and hyperbole being published daily that 100 scientists volunteering a fraction of their time can’t possibly keep up…
More than 95 percent of actively publishing climate scientists agree that human activities are directly influencing the climate, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t room for nuance and disagreement…
http://universityofcalifornia.edu/news/can-you-trust-what-you-read-about-climate-change
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the good billionaires:
1 Aug: NBC Bay Area: Asher Klein: Billionaire Warren Buffett Pledges to Drive Voters to the Polls in Nov.
“I’m gonna be doing selfies, whatever it takes,” Buffett said, before introducing Hillary Clinton at a rally in Omaha, Nebraska
Buffett pledged to “take at least 10 people to the polls who otherwise would have had difficulty getting there” on November 8, challenging his congressional district to “give America a civics lesson.”…
He launched a website, Drive2vote, where people can sign up for a ride or to give a ride on Election Day, as well as to register to vote…
The “Oracle of Omaha,” as Buffett is sometimes called, said he even reserved a trolley called “Ollie” Monday. “It seats 32, I’m gonna be on it all day, I’m gonna be doing selfies, whatever it takes,” Buffett said…
COULDN’T FIND A PRO-CLINTON COMMENT
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/national-international/Warren-Buffett-Hillary-Clinton-Omaha-Rally-388876852.html
PICS: 1 Aug: GatewayPundit: Jim Hoft: Hillary Clinton Loads Up Omaha Rally With High School Kids – Still Can’t Fill It Up!
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/hillary-clinton-fills-omaha-rally-high-school-kids/
1 Aug: Time: Alexandra Mondalek: Why Warren Buffett Is Campaigning for Hillary Clinton—And How Much He’s Spending To Do It
The Oracle of Omaha is one of several billionaires to back her.
Hillary Clinton may be having a tough time reaching average American voters, but she’s having no trouble courting billionaires…
For the fourth-richest man in the world to speak out about disproportionate income tax rates and inequality may seem ironic, but he wouldn’t be the first billionaire to endorse Clinton. Over the weekend, Dallas Mavericks owner and investor Mark Cuban endorsed Clinton, following in the footsteps of former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg, who spoke at last week’s Democratic National Convention in favor of the nominee.
Remember the “Billionaires for Bush” parody website, when George W. ran? He certainly had a bona fide bunch of well-heeled donors. And Clinton does, too…
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Circles within circles, Warren Buffett is another of the American Aristocracy that cannot be boughten by the Banksters, UN or the Agenda 21. Like the Donald he is in it for himself. But in the Warren, like in the Donald, I see no intent of stomping on the throat of those that made him rich! Now consider the Hillary! 🙂
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Hillary would not even be aware that she was stomping on the throats of the serfs.
She isn’t capable of lowering her gaze that far down when she has so many important things to attend to.
After a term or two as President she no doubt is preparing the way to an important position in the U.N.
KK
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They Might be Giants and a great album – Here Comes the Science
Why does the sun shine?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JdWlSF195Y
And why does the sun really shine?
The only case I can think of where an artist issues a second song correcting the first. The last fabulous lines
“Forget that song.
They got it wrong.
That thesis has been rendered invalid!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLkGSV9WDMA
Or something the IPCC could use.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kf51FpBuXQ
“If its possible to prove it wrong,
You’re going to want to know before to long,
You need a test.”
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When I studied Meteorology a heatwave was at least 4 continuous days over 100F
A heatwave today is 2 days at 90F or above
A change in definition has caused most heatwaves of the recent era
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Wow! Such an important finding deserves a lot of credit…. …or maybe not.
I’m tempted to say,
But I’ll be polite and avoid it. And speaking of the worlds greatest detective there he is now, complete with deerstalker hat and magnifying glass in hand, looking into the causes of global warming, which certainly must include the current heat wave. I wonder if he’ll discover a hot star at the center of the solar system. Probably not, it’s too obvious to be the answer.
[You squeaked by with this one. It’s a little too funny to not approve. But do watch it in the future.] AZ
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*** If that isn’t recognized by anyone its a classical retort to someone who has just discovered or announced the painfully obvious.
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And after that comment you’re entitled to say it to me, since I think the meaning was, in fact, painfully obvious.
As to the more difficult question, is this whole thing in the Onion a puton or serious? One must be careful about such publications as they have sometimes accidentally been quite serious. So Your guess is as good as mine. 😉
But I’m sure the great Sherlock Holmes, once on the case, will surely get to the bottom of it all. And then we’ll know.
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“PASADENA, CA—Groundbreaking new findings announced Monday suggest the record-setting heat wave plaguing much of the United States may be due to radiation emitted from an enormous star located in the center of the solar system.”
The centre of the solar system must be getting really crowded now as a lot of it was occupied by our Sun previously. Now Pasadena thinks that there is ‘an enormous star’ in there too.
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“Sounds like a bunch of scientists thinking they’re smarter than us farmers, we all know without the roosters to call it in in the mornings that star would never even appear! Eliminate roosters = eliminate global warming!! ”
From a comment at
http://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/topic/102726-insight-into-global-warming/
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