Australia’s new PM, when pushed, is a mini-Turnbull. The RET is the toxic renewable energy target, the guaranteed gift to unreliable, uneconomic performers. It’s the cancer on the system that makes the cheap generators die. At it’s best, the RET is theft through electricity bills to support industries in China in the hope that storms will be nicer in 2100.
RET is safe, says Morrison
Scott Morrison has assured key crossbenchers he will not dump renewable energy targets as he hedges against the possibility of the Coalition losing the Wentworth by-election and finding itself in minority government.
Morrison’s hand is forced thanks to Malcolm Turnbull, because of the Wentworth byelection to be held October 20th. Turnbull didn’t have to resign in a one-seat majority government, but he did. When you look at how well his resignation works for the Labor Party and the green-freeloaders, how could he say “No”? Thanks to Turnbull being such a bad choice as PM, he lost so many seats he could barely form government, so every byelection now means the entire government is up for grabs. His “safe” seat is no longer safe. Labor are well ahead in the polls there on Wednesday. Ponder that this was a blue-ribbon seat, won with a 62% primary vote in 2016.
For a party “turning right,” the inner city Wentworth seat is a risky one to toss in the air. From this fragile position, Morrison had only two dark choices: 1/ pander and capitulate to stay in government for a short time, or 2/ be brave, speak the truth, and pull the Federal election trigger, a tough call when the party is so behind in the polls. He chose “to pander”.
Turnbull has handed Morrison a poisoned chalice
Without calling for a Federal election, Morrison has to capitulate to the left in both the Wentworth seat and to the independent crossbenchers who might theoretically keep him in government even if the Libs lose the byelection.
If it [The Liberals] lost the seat, the government’s numbers in the House of Representatives would fall to 75, forcing it to rely on the support of two independents to fend off confidence motions if Speaker Tony Smith remained in the chair.
So Morrison has to throw away the best election winning strategy of the Libs in order just to stay in government for a pitiful ‘nother six to nine months until the next federal election. Therefore he will go into it as a Turnbull-lite version, without the base support, the donors, and any strong argument, and the Libs will likely lose.
The winning easy option for any conservatives around the world is the Abbott-Trump-Dean plan. Morrison can’t play that on climate now thanks to Turnbull’s parting gift, or he looks like a liar. Presumably the cross-benchers will play their immigration chips next and bolt that topic down too. The spineless Liberals cannot point out the stupidity of using our generators to control the weather. They can’t explain how stupid and sacrificial Paris is, nor how badly the RET drives our prices up. They can’t point out that every country with renewables pays more for electricity. They can only say the Labor party are right, but they’ve taken it a bit too far. You can’t Axe a Tax that you want to half do yourself.
Turnbull’s resignation is a win for the Labor party-globalists any which way
Either Labor wins the seat and threatens a vote of no-confidence that could bring down the government, or the Libs win but lose the conservative base in doing so.
Turnbull is not even bothering to hide his true lefty colors. He is doing everything possible to destroy the real conservative base — tweeting to put pressure on Dutton who almost beat Morrison and sits in a very marginal seat. It’s hard to believe he was PM of a conservative government merely weeks ago. Takes a true Narcissist-in-chief to so shamelessly bomb his own party.
Why are the Libs in dire straits? They believed the ABC
The Libs romped home in 2013, but find themselves in this pathetic position because in 2015 weak willed and gullible MP’s in a strong 90 seat government tossed aside the landslide winner and instead installed the ABC’s favored candidate.
Conservatives and libertarians, anyone who fears the slide to the gimme-dat side of politics, better get organized. Time to write letters to editors and ministers, to study the pre-selection rules, pick the decent candidates, get email lists running and send donations to people who work to keep the nation free.
You have nailed it Jo.
Any ‘Delcons’ who were considering returning to the fold will now say to themselves…’why bother’?
Why don’t the Libs listen to their supposed ‘base’?
How stupidly ignorant must the party’s leadership be?
Billy Shortone seems to be a ‘shoe-in’ as the next PM. The ‘greenies’ will be delighted. Those who struggle to pay for the basics now will be much worse off. We have probably all read recently about people who struggle to feed their families. Power bills are not getting any cheaper, and won’t with the RE mix and the subsidies.
My vote will be going to another conservative party. The Libs have lost me for the next election, and I would say for the one after that as well.
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Where do we post the ‘RIP Australia’ sign? At the rate the two party government is going it looks as if it will be necessary by the end of the year sad to say.
Will the last person to leave just shut the door, there are no lights to turn off.
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The old political saying is
“The more it changes, the more it stays the same”.
We couldnt have gone this far down a suicidal political greenist hole, unless the greenist unholy alliance of govt, the UN, big business and NGOs collaborators putting all this together.
Im glad people are now seeing the “liberals” and “labor” as the owned and paid for globalist fronts they seem to be.
In politics, nothing happens by accident.
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I’m sick to death of people telling me that We have to vote for the Liberals(sic)Labour(can’t even spell their own name)/Greens(Watermelons).If you find out before hand who the”Independents”are,or what the minor parties policies are and don’t forget Corys”Conservatives”or Paulines”One Nation”They are a far better alternative to the”Uni=Party”This maybe the time that”We the People”give the”Globalists”and UN the boot.
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A lot of people in this country are brainwashed or just plain risk averse. In the USA there are enough wealthy peopke to put up cash to try new ideas/ concepts in business etc. Australians are a nation of managers of other peopkes mobey, but rarely thier own, so we have a certain cringe component to our psyche.
However, now is the time to rediscover our frontier risk taking core that exists in most Australians and throw out the globalust boot licking Liberal, Labor and Green parties so they can never form another globalist-run govt……
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To put it simply, Morrison is Turnbull 2.0.
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This is exactly what I predicted. This is the reason for not dumping Paris. Therefore we will dump PM Morrison. A sudden backflip anytime now is possible for dumping the RET, so too a possible later backflip on Paris. Your problem PM is that nobody will believe a word you say ever again,
We’re up to our eyeballs in devious, immoral ,liars & were not having any more. Roll on the informal election.
A loss in Wentworth will signal the end of the coalition for about 20 years! You were warned!
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Yes, I like the idea of Dumping Morrison.
How would it be. Three weeks in the job and he faces a leadership spill!
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Well if Taylor comes up with a dud energy policy then I hope Turnbull does torch the LNP. I’m starting to get tired of the doublespeak coming from Morrison.
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Hang on….loss of liberals means implementation of Communism in this country under Labor over the next 20 years…..do people really want that?
Granted liberals are just Labor lite, so it would happen slower….
If we cant stop whats happening, we need to teach the teenagers and 20 somethings NOW about the evil of communism before its labelled as subversive speech….otherwise we have failed the next generation and condemed our grandchildren to left wing slavery no different to living under Stalin. Before anyone laughs at thst – ask yourself if 10 years ago you coukd have predicted where we are right now? Imagine with unchecked left wing agression and full gun confiscation what that means for us all? Look at history…..
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Some do want that but not enough I think for it to happen, at least not yet (it might happen much later when we beg China to bail us out as the nation goes bankrupt in 10+ years). What will happen now is more voters than ever before will not vote for either major party. If enough of them do that neither major party will reach the requisite minimum number of seats to form government. If that happens I hope one or more of the minor parties, such as ON and/or ACP make an alliance with the LNP to form government on the proviso the LNP withdraw from Paris, scrap the RET and renewables subsidies. That could easily happen if enough voters are sensible enough to support ACP and ON. If on the other hand voters are foolish enough to vote more for other minor parties that are pro-renewables then we will end up with ALP in government. If we were experiencing a similar sentiment change as what the Americans have been through when Trump was elected we should see the former outcome play out. That is why I consider the next federal election a major litmus test of the voters. It will be very telling.
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Ummmmm…remember we do have a preferential voting system. Unless the minors get a strong enough vote to win the seat, then it will wind up with one of the majors. So, unless you vote informal (cowardly cop out with no right to moan about the outcome) you need to chose where your preference winds up on those terms.
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Yes I know all that. That’s why it will be a litmus test of the voters. Do they have the conviction to make a real change to our political landscape or will they continue as they have all along and only pretend they care for our nation’s future. Our preferential system does allow for what I have suggested an din fact did happen when Gillard formed her government. The difference this time is we can put in place a better government with certain minor parties holding the balance of power in the lower house. Failing that we have no hope of saving this nation from a crash and burn.
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‘…cowardly cop out…’
i cannot vote for the cultural Marxists, its a matter of principle.
Tony is battling on against the insidious green slime.
‘The former prime minister faced an attempt by moderates to roll him as reports emerge of fiery Warringah branch meeting.’
Oz
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Apply for a postal vote.
Complete your voting in the relaxed environment of your own home.
Number every single candidate on the metre long ballot paper.
Place ALL the major parties towards THE END.
Put REAL CONSERVATIVE PARTIES eg On Nation, ALA,Australian Conservatives, Shooters & Fishers etc at THE TOP.
NO MORE FLIP FLOPPING BETWEEN DUMB (COALITION) & DUMBER (ALP/GREENS)!
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PeterS. Many people, including many scholars, have a very poor comprehension of basic economics. They do not understand, for example, that if one member of a team (think economic sector) is bankrupt, then the whole team stands bankrupt until the matter is resolved.
If only a small player is bankrupt, then the matter can be easily resolved. But if many players go down, serious consequences result.
The original proposal for an emissions trading scheme, which but for Barnaby Joyce would have been introduced by the Howard government, intended to tax Agriculture’s recycled emissions on the same basis as fossil emissions. It studiously refused to allow credits for the sequestration side of agriculture’s carbon cycle.
Vigourous protest saw “Agricultue” set aside in the temporarily too hard basket. But the inequity of tht policy was never acknowledged..
This double taxing of Australia’s grazing sector woulld have quickly bankrupted the whole sector. Other parts of the Agriculture sector would have soon followed.
This would have rendered that 60% of Australia’s land area which is used for grazing economicslly valueless. This in turn would have probably have caused Australia’s whole financial system to collapse.
Which is anyway the primary goal of the Marxists, including those who lead the ALP.
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To put it in technical terms we need to push the “refresh” button. Or simply switch off &
Reboot!
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Oh my gawd.
‘The Morrison government will refocus environment policies on the Abbott-era Direct Action plan.’ Oz
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Talcum should stay in NY, he is a traitor to the core and safely exiled.
I predict the Nats will break away from the Coalition to save themselves and become a force in their own right.
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Wouldn’t he have to go and check the Caymans?
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First Panama.
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eg, they contribute something like 3-4% to the “coalition” primary vote?? Gives them 16 seats which smells gerrymander to me. 🙂
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Most National Party electorates have much smaller populations than citiy electorates and therefore are usually much larger in area, therefore the total National vote is explainable, it’s not a gerrymander at all.
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What Australia needs is to go back to a proper federation of states as originally formed in 1901 with taxation collected by the states. That now applies in Switzerland where the states collect the tax and give a small limited amount to the federal government for things like defense and foreign affairs. Health, education, policing etc are a matter for the states. Switzerlan has 26 states. Their upper house (Council of States) has 46 members -2 for 20 states and 1 from 6 smaller states. USA has 50 states and their upper house (The Senate)has 100 members 2 for each state.
Queensland is Australia’s most diversely populated state. It could easily be split into 5 states. There are 6 cities with populations over 135,000. The South East could be split into two divided possibly by the Brisbane River -one centred on the Gold Coast and the other on the Sunshine Coast or possibly 3 states -one for Brisbane. A South west state could be centred on Toowoomba which now has an international airport. A north Queensland state could be centred on Cairns which has an international airport, while a central Queensland state could take in Townsville and Rockhamption. NSW could be divided into 4 states, Victoria into three, SA & WA into two leaving NT and Tas as single states with ACT as a half state taking in external territories such as Antarctica. Let each state be represented by 2 elected at each election (1 for ACT) or 4 (2 for ACT) at a double dissolution. Senators should be representatives for the states and parties should be removed from the ballot paper.
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Phil our clout is bigger than you can imagine, if the Liberals are completely routed then all seats are up for grabs. I’m assuming this will happen if Morrison fails to leave Paris before Xmas.
The Nats have already decided to run against the Liberals in senate seats and with the right platform they could hold the balance of power. We are the gatekeepers and with the help of ON and ACP we could close down Bill’s cultural Marxist agenda.
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I hope so.
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Finally, someone else who uses their head.The only way out of this mes that WE have been put in,is to stop voting for the”Uni-Party”
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Watch out you dont get caught by the first syllable of assuming eg. 🙂 I think that the agrarian socialists that are the Nats may have developed a bit of a high opinion of themselves over the years they have been essential to the Coalition.
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If you name them that and ignore the seriously heavily subsidised farmers in the EU and US our farmers compete against you are fooling yourself.
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‘…a high opinion of themselves…’
Being in government has been fun and the trappings of high office would be hard to give up. There are moderates among the Nats who need to grow a backbone or move to the cross bench permanently.
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Bring on the “informal election” It makes no difference of any magnitude what side of politics the next government professes to promote, the end result is the same basic destructive policies. The only way to give them notice of electoral distain is to inflict such a large informal vote on them that there cannot be any possibility of being able to claim the support of the electorate.
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I have already decided that I can not vote for either major. That means voting informal for the house, & below the line for the senate.
That will mean having to start from the bottom of the senate paper, with greens below Labor, below Libs, working up through the least desirable to the top.
How the hell did we get to this?
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The reasons are many and varied, and it would take too long to explain here. See my earlier post #2.1.1.1.1 as to an outline of what I’m hoping will happen.
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How did the country get to this? Simple answer, a preferential voting system designed and honed over the years to keep all but the two parties out of the running. It is working as designed at the moment especially since there is no way to distinguish between the two parties – both are trying to hand Australia over to the UN world government.
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I still like the basic idea of the preferential system but feel it would work better if only our top three preferences were counted.
Under the current system we can put laba and libel 9th and 10th and they can still collect.
No wonder some vote Informal.
KK
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KK, as I said honed over the years to give the results the party moguls want after all it has been years since there were separate parties – they are all the same now and just have the old names to keep up the illusion.
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The rot is so deep within the LNP it appears un-fixable in the short term. The long term plan must be for the 40 members who voted for Peter Dutton to resign en-masse and either join the Conservatives or start a new party. They can still garauntee supply and confidence to keep labor out as long as possible.
My worst fears have been realised, Morrison is Turnbull 2.0. A very sad end to RGM’s vision.
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Yes I suspected all along the LNP is so bad it can’t be saved but when Dutton looked like taking over I thought there was some chance. Instead Morrison came to the scene and I started to be unsure. Now I think I’ll go back to be previous view before the spill that the conservatives should leave the party and join ACP and ON, and try to form an alliance. Like a house riddled with white ants it needs to be demolished and a new house built.
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What if the Nats formally broke from the Coalition, by simply running their people up against the Liberal candidates. They plan to do it in the senate if ON or ACP look like winning those seats.
The NSW election is a couple of months before the federal election, so if Gladys does badly its because of a disenchanted electorate. A lot of that is her own fault, no due diligence with the tramway and the toll road fiasco is enough to destroy her government.
But there is also the stench out of Canberra, the moderates are still in charge. Its a disaster for the Party and I blame Malcolm for conniving to bring it about while in his political death throws.
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Might work. Anything is better than the current putrid LNP. Also it’s not all Turnbull’s fault. He had lots of support many years ago so the rot started back then. I’m now convinced much of the LNP including some conservatives are so out of touch with reality they are like zombies wandering in the fields. I suspect Morrison is included given his doublespeak lately but I will wait a bit longer before passing final judgement.
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Referring to my two comments yesterday on the Google story the rot has set in and the merger of Union Labor with the left side of the Liberals is almost complete.
I hope the true Menzies Australian Liberals and the Nationals combine and join others who are not in bed with the globalists.
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Australian Conservatives need members.
We do not support the RET , Paris nor the NEG.
https://www.conservatives.org.au/membership
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They are really our only hope. When the LNP is smashed at the next election I hope all the conservative Libs and Nats join the ACP and let the rest of the LNP rot away. Then ON can form an alliance with ACP and become the foundation of a new party to replace the stinking LNP.
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” … the Libs will likely lose”, says Jo.
They MUST lose, and lose hugely. A narrow win will only encourage them to go on, and then we will be stuck with two ALPs forever.
Only an electoral obliteration can cause a reset.
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To be honest if Morrison keeps it up the LNP will lose big time. ALl I keep hearing from him is doublespeak, sometimes even worse than Turnbull. He better change quick smart or else he is gone and so is his party, hopefully forever.
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Don’t give Union Labor the levers to pull again.
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pity it seems to be impossible to find video of Peta Credlin’s interview with Craig Kelly on Sky yesterday, except for brief excerpt.
however, here is the full interview on audio podcast. just click along the bar – about 40% along – and listen from 20mins to 35mins13secs. Credlin had graphs as well.
AUDIO: Sky News: Peta Credlin podcast – 13 Sept 2018
http://more.skynews.com.au/podcasts/credlin-podcast/
13 Sept: HotCopper: Too many burps & farts by Australia’s cattle?
Tonight on SkyNews Peta Credlin interviewed Craig Kelly NSW Liberal MP. He seems to know a lot about power sources, generation and about the NEG.
I must admit I never really understood what the NEG was all about. But after listening to Kelly I DO know some of the likely outcomes if the Paris agreement is followed by the Australian govt (of either side of politics).
What has not been made clear is the inroads, particularly with a Labor govt, that would be made into ALL aspects of Australian life. As an example, the burps and farts of our live stock apparently have a significant affect on the climate. Kelly says with the Lib 26% and the Labor up to 50% targets, there would have to be massive culls of the national herds. Australia would have to compete internationally in this sphere with countries like Brazil who I believe does not have the same targets.
Kelly also said transport, factories etc would definitely have to be cut back. And that if ALL these were done, electricity prices would still go up. Australia’s economy and way of life would be reduced of course. And he doubts that there would be little or no impact on climate change.
This was a real eye opener for me. Morrison needs to address the subject asap and in depth, imo.
https://hotcopper.com.au/threads/too-many-burps-farts-by-australias-cattle.4431062/#.W5tozeRRfIV
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should have said don’t miss the end bit, where Kelly says – after discussing electricity, transport & agriculture – that they haven’t even discussed energy used in other sectors of the economy that use gas, fugitive emissions from mining ops, cement manufacturing …
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add the SDGs…bilateral climate aid, GCF funding (if it gets going)… and where would it leave Australia?
the public are the ones brainwashed by the likes of ABC/Fairfax/Guardian, the free-to-air channels, etc.
what a scam.
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Thanks Pat,
I can’t bring myself to an to an hour of audio podcast. Thankfully you have summarised it for us..
Graig Kelly correct. But how to get people to listen? He is written off as a member of the Monkey Pod group.
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Peter C –
it isn’t necessary for jo’s readers to listen, because we are across all these issues, but it would be good if we could get friends or relatives who don’t have a clue about the full extent of Paris to listen. Kelly is a very good communicator.
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Kelly does sound good at first but when asked the hard questions he dodges them like a typical politician. Bernardi has far better answers to such questions but I suppose that’s because he is no longer constrained by the party line, which still appears to be to hold on to Paris, RET and the renewables subsidies, all of which Bernardi says time and time again they must all go.
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Pat, PETA Credlin has a Facebook page and the.video with Kelly is there.
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I said this two weeks ago or was it three -my prediction was just -continued belief in Paris Agreement,Emissions and Climate Change- these words and phrases that have now been re
affirmed by ScoMo will mean just the same meme as Chairman Mal .So it’s just like “continue
to do the the same thing over and over” while hoping for a different outcome ie more renewables
will reduce power bills .And so the predictable insanity continues and therefore the LNP will
be destroyed at the next election.Then it will be the Bill Shorten show and the necessary disaster
for the economy that just has to happen before the sheeple wake up.
Cheers Mike Reed
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Shorten is further to the left than Turnbull, and positioned where former PM Gillard was and she established the Socialist Forum, now merged with the Australian Fabian Society, as a factional home for communists and socialists.
And like Turnbull plotting to get rid of National and Liberal parties Gillard plotted to get rid of Labor. Remember the split of the 1950s: Australian Labor Party communists and their opponents formed the Democratic Labor Party.
We Australians are paying a high price for being apathetic and not showing much interest in politics.
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A pyramid. Money is created as debt at the top of the hypothetical pyramid.
Governments are a bit like debt intermediaries
Naturally, in this global debt based financial system, we are at the foundation of the pyramid as recipients of whatever a government is able to borrow/approved spending from the top of the pyramid. The governance comes from the top. Labour, liberal/whatever makes no difference with respect to this well established dynamic.
Our descriptions here are too complicated.
Should be simple and possible.
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Well , stupid is is as stupid does.
The average dopey australian will probably only wake up when they are sent a copy of Bills Little Red Book and told to report for patriotic duty under Chairman Bills authoritarian decree…..
People have bread and circuses via smart phone these days- the on going electronic mental labotomy that peopke have embraced.
I look at it thus way – if people are happy to willingly put multiple piont sources of microwave radiation in thier houses homes so they are bathed in it all day and call it “progress” i’d seriously question peoples discernment skills….
But thats just me i guess…oh hang on, a new tweet from tha Kardashians….must go….
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The LNP is now dead.
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Perhaps a good thing.
I went to the Nigel Farage talk last week. He said that a political leader will arise when the situation requires it . That might be very soon.
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I believe that too if it’s true Morrison will keep the RET and renewables subsidises. Turnbull is right to be angry since nothing really has changed. I’m starting to have a little sympathy for Turnbull and so I hope he does destroy the LNP. Still I will wait a little longer to see if Taylor comes up with an energy policy that makes a lot of sense to clear the air.
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The best thing for democracy is to reject the 3 main parties so they become irrelevent. The globalists will freak out and attempt to undermine anyone who has taken their toys out of the pram, but then those who speak fire and brimstone against rejecting the 3 main parties are likely the globalists, so they will be flushed out…
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That is exactly what has happened in the US when Trump was elected. We need something similar here to happen except we don’t have a Trump. So the next best thing is for neither major party to reach the minimum number of seats to form government, and that the LNP has to rely on say ON and/or ACP to form government by promising to withdraw from Paris and scrap the RET and renewables subsidies as a minimum.
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Oh Good! We can then have a situation like when Julia Gillard was PM, and our Parliament was actually working as it should. All bills having to be actually negotiated through both Houses of Parliament and all the peoples properly elected representatives having a real opportunity to influence them. Go Real Democracy!!
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No the difference this time is if ACP and/or ON are holding the balance of power in the lower house we can get some good policies for once. Only if the ALP gains support from other minor parties who are like minded will things stay as they are and go over he cliff. The current LNP governemtn is fast becoming no different to the previous one under Turnbull, and so would lose the next election big time. In that case the only thing that will prevent Shorten from becoming PM is for a hung parliament the way I suggested.
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Lol! If anything like the current polling holds the electorate may decide to hand them a majority in both houses, with the most likely outcome at the moment ALP 80-90 seats HoR. 🙂 Senate more interesting possibilities for combinations. Depends whether any x benchers are anti democratic wreckers of narrow agenda, or actually acknowledge the result the electorate decides on and work with that.
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‘…..actually acknowledge the result the electorate decides on and work with that.’
The electorate at large has been brainwashed into believing a harmless trace gas will kill their grandchildren, any senator who stands up to this mass delusion will get my vote.
They are not democratic wreckers, its more of a fall back position in case we get wiped out in the HoR. The grass roots green slime is everywhere, the young are particularly vulnerable to mass propaganda, as are women.
‘A shock protest vote against the former PM is being used by branch members to signal he must make the next term his last.’ Oz
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Don’t lump the Nationals in, LNP only exists in Queensland, elsewhere the L & N Coalition continues.
The problem centres on and emerged from the NSW Liberal Party but as we know “Black Hand” MPs are in most states and territories. The vote against Peter Dutton recently was 45 to 40 MPs and most would be Black Hand I believe. Turnbull planted his own people inside Liberal HQ long ago and the fools did not stop him from achieving his long time objectives.
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The net effect of what Turnbull has done is like Australia fighting a war with another nation of similar strength but having half our armed forces infiltrated with he enemy. At least we have to give him credit for what he has done for the enemy.
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The moment an even moderately conservative political party adopts leftist policies to play identity politics for votes or media points its game over.
– Accepting the climate change hypothesis.
– Signing onto UN treaties that reduces GDP.
– Acknowledging the idea of gender inequality where no problem existed.
– Opening our boarders to parasites and criminals.
– Participating in the weakening of our cultural heritage.
– Assisting in the destruction of national manufacturing.
There’s lots more but it gets too depressing……a leader a leader my country for a leader!
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Turnbull was bitterly disappointed to win the last election. He will make sure Labor win this one.
A Labor man through and through, like his mother and her uncle, leader of the UK Labor party. Malcolm Turnbull remains Labor Royalty. Everything Turnbull has done is to bring the Liberal party down, destroy all the hard work done by Abbott and friends. If anything Malcolm is now solid Green, as Labor rejected him. Graham Richardson would not give him a job. It seems he begged Bob Hawke as well. No one wanted him.
It seems Peter Costello said that if they let Malcolm Turnbull into the Liberals, he will wreck the Liberal party.
Peter, once again, was spot on.
The other opportunist wrecker is Julie Bishop who undermined Nelson, Turnbull, Abbott, Turnbull and now Morrison. It seems if you are female, no one dares say anything. She has lost her fantastic free first class world travel ticket and wants revenge.
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Not exactly.
He wanted to be the PM. Lucy wanted him to be the PM also.
No one wants him Now.
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He had already achieved his dream. He was Prime Minister. He had removed Abbott. He called a pointless election on his terms and threw away a huge advantage. That’s as much as he wanted. A real Prime Minister. Like Teresa May who inherited the job and did exactly the same thing.
He didn’t campaign at all. He thanked no one, acknowledged no one. Now he saw the Prime Ministership as an albatross around his neck. Worst of all, he couldn’t bring in any of his policies. When he finally tried with the NEG, he lost the job. Of course he wanted all the fun, but not the job. Too much hard work. So he kicked the stumps out and ran away. It all fits.
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Yes but his “dream” is still well and truly in play thanks to his supporters in the party. Until that part of the party is flushed down the toilet nothing will change.
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And so it is revealed in the timeline of his history commencing at his student days at Sydney Grammar School (exclusive non-government school with a record of producing high achievers) to present day @ http://www.stopturnbull.com
Apparently the Liberals were not interested?
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So what was the purpose of getting rid of Turnbull if the RET and renewables subsidies are not abandoned? What has changed?
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At least it is clear why Turnbull stalled until Morrison could get the numbers, breaking all traditions. Morrison and Frydenberg, Turnbull’s chosen team. They will lead Turnbull’s sheep over the same cliff.
My point is that Turnbull was always undermining and still is undermining. His real triumph has been undermining the entire Liberal party, from within. A Labor termite. He has been so successful at bringing everything down but don’t ask him to build anything.
It is clear Turnbull had no dreams, no ideas of his own. Just like his acolytes Morrison and Frydenberg. They are the real populists, as with trying to put a woman candidate in Wentworth. Whatever the journalists and pollsters say the people want. Opinion poll driven politicians, trying to be all things to all people with no idea of their own.
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No they aren’t populist. Populist means stumping for the majority, nothing populist about Morrison. Populism is a good thing… I want politicians that represent me.
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Exactly. That’s why Trump won – he was very popular. However, popularity is not necessarily a good thing. The two often don’t go together but at least this time they did, at least so far 🙂
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Desperation, when Turnbull and his Black Hands MPs realised there would be a challenge by Peter Dutton representing the true Liberals including Tony Abbott the PM was in panic, he lost the leadership in 2009 when Liberal MPs drafted Abbott to replace Turnbull after a very close voting margin. Turnbull had unseated Opposition Leader Brendan Nelson in 2008 after failing to gain enough support to replace retiring PM John Howard when the Coalition lost government in November 2007. Turnbull was determined not to allow the Abbott side to gain the upper hand again.
Accordingly his long time friend and supporter, Deputy Leader Bishop, was sacrificed and Scott Morrison manoeuvred into winning the leadership vote by a margin of 45 to 40.
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You could ask ScoMo?? But he may reply in tongues??
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Sharp observation, much amusement.
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Absolutely no point at all in replacing turncoat with turncoat clone morrison………..
The policies are the real problem.
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So, an unpopular wastrel is supported by the luvvie media and a shameless clique at Murdoch’s Australian. Despite this support the unpopular wastrel loses a bunch of seats – making his own hold firmer because his very unpopularity makes his party dependent on his seat.
After he is removed from leadership for being an unpopular wastrel (duh) this banksterish lump of electoral cyanide abandons the seat upon which his government depended.
You know Turnbull’s problem? No class, no tone, no sportsmanship, no code. The fellow is as common as muck. He’s always been as common as much…but now he’s put out a neon sign saying: “Malcolm Turnbull, common as muck.”
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Great comment, mosomoso. It sounded like an Alan Jones editorial.
I mean that in a positive way. Well said!
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Mr. Harbourside Mansion.
A letter he wrote in December 2009 was headed;
Malcolm Bligh Turnbull
Harbourside Mansion
Sydney Harbour
He also adopted Turnbull Party rather than identifying as Liberal Party.
Well aimed Mosomoso
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13 Sept: 3AW: Diesel generators being installed on Mornington Peninsula to bolster energy supplies
Almost a dozen diesel generators are being installed at properties across the Mornington Peninsula to bolster electricity supplies during the summer.
The 11 generators will be placed across five different sites.
Mark Clarke from United Energy told Neil Mitchell it was a cheaper option than a major capital investment to keep the lights on during peak demand.
“I think you’ll see more and more of this across Australia,” he said.
AUDIO: 10mins07secs
https://www.3aw.com.au/diesel-generators-being-installed-on-mornington-peninsula-to-bolster-energy-supplies/
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How many diesel generators will it take to replace Hazelwood? Hang the expense eh! And Dan won’t triple the price of diesel.
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This is Daniel Andrews admitting that his wonderful renewable energy policy cannot cope without Hazelwood. However, in his feeble mind, it won’t be long before his new windmills and solar panels will pick up the slack and the dirty diesel generators won’t be needed.
Dream on, deluded Dan.
Let’s hope that Victorians remove him from office in November.
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Add South Australian greatly increased numbers of government and private sector diesel generators and the national fuel reserve all time low is explained.
Evidence enough that the RET is a disaster.
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The national fuel reserve is more easily explained by the fact that most of the refineries have closed.
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More of a storage issue I think, rather than refining. One way or another tankers of “stuff” need to come in and be stored before refined or used.
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Well yes, but you can see how they are setting all the dominos up, to cripple the country….
Then when everything is super precarious, they will set if off…..
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I listened to the 3AW podcast with Neil Mitchell. The Green energy boffin he interviewed stated, and I quote, ‘maybe three or four years of these diesel generators and then wind and solar will take over.’
These people are nuts, insane.
Neil Mitchell doesn’t seem to get it fully, but he is questioning.
How can media voices like him be told the reality of the situation?
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You have to be amazed. Replacing ‘dirty’ coal with ‘clean’ diesel. At odds with science, reality, facts. Acid rain anyone? Even more CO2. What exactly is the point?
Australia is so backward. Diesel is becoming a dirty word in Europe after the VW scandal. Car manufacturers like Audi are pushing back to petrol as the UK considers a pollution tax on diesel.
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That’s because while it’s possible to get the Sulphur out of coal and petrol, it’s impossible to stop the Nitrous Oxide out of diesel as it comes from the air, an unavoidable consequence of the much higher compression ratio. There will come a day when diesels are banned from cities, on grounds of unavoidable pollution. NO2 forms nitric acid on contact with water, say in your lungs.
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I have seen research with MIT building plasma generators to pump diesel exhaust gasses through that reduced NOx and SOx emissions considerably…then it all went quiet.
I suspect another good technology bought and shut down, to maximise fuel excise income….
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Oddly the UK is also spreading diesel gensets around the countryside at the same time as talking about taxing/banning diesel cars and trucks.
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I’ve been trying to point out for many months now that Turnbull was (and clearly still is) a ‘mole’; a blatantly obvious Fifth Columnist whose task was only ever to preside over a transfer of power to the ALP.
My personal belief is that the global shift to the Left is an orchestrated one.
Individuals like Soros and Bloomberg, Obama and Merkel, etc., are acting according to a plan. As far as I can tell, the architects of this plan congregate at the U.N. building in New York. The subsidiary office is the European Parliament in Brussels.
The goal is a global political shift; the agenda is the most far-reaching ever devised.
I know this sounds like a classic expression sub-clinical paranoia. But that’s why the U.N. agenda has succeeded so brilliantly. It’s so vast that it’s too big to see.
Just as ants crawling around the base of the Empire State building in New York are unaware of the enormous structure they encounter every day of their lives, the great majority of us remain unaware of ‘the march through the institutions’ of left-wing totalitarianism, which has gone on all around us for decades.
It’s vast.
Morrison has no choice but to tread softly around the RET and the NEG, around ’emissions’ and ‘carbon footprints’. It’s because his political situation is so perilous – thanks to Turnbull.
And the Australian electorate has been well deceived by years of Leftist publicity from the MSM, Teachers Union members at school, and unashamedly Marxist lecturers at Australian universities. As many as 50% of voters (perhaps more) have been convinced by relentless false propaganda that carbon dioxide is a serious threat.
If Morrison were to say what he almost certainly thinks about Global Warming, those ‘useful idiots’ would turn on him at the polls, in a fit of self-righteous anger.
And did you notice how, immediately upon losing the Prime Ministership, Turnbull scurried off to New York – home of the United Nations Headquarters?
Anyone for debriefing?
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It’s not about arguments or ideas any more. That debate is illegitimate according to the progressive utopia: https://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell/videos
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Great outline, thanks for reinforcing it.
KK
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Agreed, Interested. Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030 are real documents, not rumours. The aim is to homogenise, deracinate, make a New Man at Year Zero.
They promise a New World Order but the ideas and even language smack of Phnom Penh 1975. In fact these New World Orders of recent times – promised by various enlightened “isms” and starting with the mass murder of Vendeen peasants in 1793 – have cost more lives and mess than than the wars of Genghis Khan or Tamurlane or the Wars of Religion.
Add globalism to the list of murderous experiments conceived by clever people, ushered in by moderates…and seen to a conclusion by monsters.
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To add to your excellent comment the direct involvement of Al Gore and George Soros here in Australian politics can be added.
First the warning from Christopher Monckton to watch PM Abbott’s back, and that other PMs in Canada and New Zealand were also being targeted by the globalists.
Al Gore has visited Australia a number of times and had discussions with Turnbull, Palmer and Shorten I understand, and no doubt others in politics and the business world including RET based unreliables shareholders.
George Soros assisted in the establishment and funding ongoing for GetUp Australia, established by senior AWU executive Bill Shorten using member’s monies and donations from the globalists.
Is the above the tip of an iceberg?
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I think you are spot on. When the reality of a situation stares society in the face, society these days sticks its head in the sand and calls anyone with half a brain who calls out the reality “paranoid”…. which makes most of society terminally stupid, IMHO…..
I get sick of trying to explain to peopke whats going to happen, so now am quietly preparing for whats coming as best I can.
I also think there is a large spiritual component to this, and in many ways, as a society we are now reapung as we have sown…God will not be mocked…..
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Obama Filmed At Bilderberg: ‘US Must Surrender To New World Order…………
https://yournewswire.com/obama-bilderberg-surrender-new-world/
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Good qualities for a lawyer.
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Essential for communists….
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I sure hope you guys don’t have your nation turned into Governor Edmund G. [Gerry] Brown’s California. I suspect he doesn’t know what to do to fix California and his `Climate Change’ advocacy is a shrill smoke-screen to hide his incompetence. His handling of the forest fires says he is incompetent and his people should hold it against him.
I tripped over some scary videos on youtube yesterday—it was rather easy, I didn’t even have to search, they sort of just reached out and grabbed me. They were a bit of a wakeup.
Here are the three mildest about California:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp7cFdQPsFA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDoBQWh_
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWl_LFvEabA
It’s taken 40 years to run California down from industrial self-sufficiency to this cot case.
I won’t say “Enjoy,” because I didn’t.
Whatever you do, don’t let this happen to you!
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Parts of it are starting to look like scenes form the movie “Escape from New York”. The only main thing missing is the wall.
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That forty year window is roughly the time I have been exposed to California as a visitor.
I first went in 1970s as a 20 something pursuing a sporting dream. I thought the place was close to paradise in terms of environment and business freedom. Their was a real pride in Ca and the USA.
There has been a continous accelerating spiral downwards ever since that time. I last saw the place in 2012 and that will be our lot I think.
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It started with Prop 13, 1978. When that was enacted into law, California’s economy stopped, turned over and has been in free fall ever since.
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There’s an economic crisis gathering in the global wings, not just Australia’s which just may just collapse any possible power crisis around your ears. Morrison may soon be trying to figure out which way that 28 wheeler went and is it coming around again for a second attack?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWuXPqJAvLI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS9NqRDf6dQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf1rVoyD30E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lrdxpKPocY
NZ is having it’s own recession. I predicted an October 2017 meltdown as a land-based crash. I was wrong: it didn’t happen, at least not in the way I expected. The RBs (Reserve Banks) around the western world clubbed together and smothered their domestic land markets by making mortgage finance hard to get. They spent most of their meeting at Davos in Switzerland in January this year, patting each other on their backs for their foresight and cleverness over last year, in avoiding that crash.
But, the credit crunch still happened (reported by Pat around then—thank you) and NZ’s land-based industries—construction companies in all forms—all had a combined hissy fit around the middle of this year. One company fell over, the others nearly did.
Our biggest export company, Fonterra, announced an after-tax loss of 196 million New Zealand dollars for the year ending July, yesterday, compared with a profit in the previous year of $745 million New Zealand dollars. It’s Fonterra’s first ever loss.
I had noticed a huge dearth of customers in the shopping malls over July and August (no improvement yet) so I asked a number of friends who run their own businesses how business was. It was uniformly bad. One was wondering about future survival. Another one has emptied out his premises and is setting up to work from home, while a third is now sitting in Auckland’s traffic jam in the driver’s seat of a delivery truck. He’s happy he’s being paid.
Our PM, Jacinda Aderne, returned to work with her new Piglet, and set about trying to inject some optimistoc Confidence into the Business Community, only to find that BC is the economy’s Rear View Mirror and it remained abjectly lacking. Never mind, the charm offensive will continue until they are all Confident—or else.
Some US economists are not at all optimistic, one even predicting the death of the American Monetary and Banking System by the end of this month:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMHMqzDdmB0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR_GxS94qxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjcysYk3Myo
Even JP Morgan is sounding alarm. Now, I can’t remember them doing that before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PzMzoGBluk
Have a pleasant weekend.
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If Syria kicks off, it coukd literally be the ignition point for WW3. The BRICs nations want to remove the USD as global currency, and if that happens, the US will go to war with anyone who dares undermine thier dollar….you can se how it will go.
The russians have military tech that can out do the yanks many times over, and have given such tech to iran, china etc. It could get ugly….
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It’s true to say Russia is a formidable force but the US is no weakling. However, if it ever came to a world war, Russia+China could easily defeat the US but at what cost? I don’t think many will survive, and those that do probably would wish they didn’t.
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If anyone has kids of military age, id suggest dissuading them from getting involved in the next conflict, which will be a real meat grinder…..
Why sacrifice family members for some one elses conflict?
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I disagree with your post…….
I believe the USA and Russia WILL be allies, and the conflict will be against China.
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I didn’t say that it would happen that way. I was merely saying that Russia+China could easily defeat the US. That’s pretty obvious I would have thought. As for Russia and US being allies fighting against China, perhaps but only time will tell. Can I borrow your crystal ball or time machine?
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… “Can I borrow your crystal ball or time machine?”……..
lol…no its a personal speciality
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Comment #15 is in moderation … oops
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This morning I got my gas bill. $754 for the months of July and August to heat my house. I haven’t yet got my electricity bill.
Guess who I won’t be voting for at the next election?
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Without the context of knowing something about your house and how warm you like to be, the $754 doesnt really say much William.
Friends of mine were complaining about their electricity bill and bemoaning that even with their legacy 0.24c a kWh solar FIT contract they still paid a lot (more than double our bill). They didnt understand that their solar doesnt do a whole lot in winter, but the real killer was they left their ducted AC on 24×7. I am not sure what they thought it ran on, I didnt go there.
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There is nothing unusual about my house, or my heating and use of gas.
I recall a couple of years ago I was paying about $1 a day to heat; now it is about $11. Nothing has changed in my house or how I heat; just the price of gas.
My dear wife just pointed pointed out that we did close off most of the house and used the wood heater a lot this year in preference to gas. So if we hadn’t done that, the bill would be a lot higher.
Based on the amount of wood I used, I project that if more people switch to wood heating, we will de-vegetate Australia in a very short period of time.
Didn’t Greece and Italy cut down their forests to heat their buildings?
When I look out my back window,I can see the valley below me is blanketed with smoke from wood fires. Evidently, a lot of people have switched to wood burning.So not only are they cutting down the trees, they are reverting to 19th century pollution.
Did I mention we are screwed?
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Greece (and Italy) felled their forests over 4000 years ago to refine copper ore and smelt bronze along with `The Levant.’ The countries comprising the Levant are Cyprus (the main source of copper), Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine and Syria along with parts of southern Turkey.
These are mostly the areas which were occupied during the Bronze Age by empires which waxed and waned according to climate and plate tectonics (earthquakes and volcanoes) and large city states such as the Minoan (Crete), Mycenaen (Greece), Hittites (Turkey), Bablyonian (Babylon), Assyrian (Mesopotamia) and others. Canaan was a mess of small city states with the hills alive with small towns built by escaped slaves who ferociously defended their freedoms and personal property (Israel, Judah etc) and the trees there entered the bronze furnaces and copper refineries next to the mines on the shores of the Dead Sea. Spain and southern England (now Cornwall) traded tin, an important constituent of bronze.
Burning wood on its own wasn’t hot enough to refine the copper and tin so the trees were burnt down to charcoal which, with a forced draught, was. All that area of land must have been heavily polluted with the smoke of massive charcoal cooking.
Egypt didn’t have much in the way of forests so they let everybody else do it for them. When they thought it was time to collect the tribute they were owed, the Pharoahs went to war to collect “The Debt.”
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X 10 in a couple years? Glad I’m not gas enabled. We live in a small fairly efficient house, so we sometimes have trouble relating to the level of costs we see in the media and blogs
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sophocles wrote about California.
SF Chronicle (Hearst newspaper) is the only major daily paper covering the city and county of San Francisco.
picked just a few items from a long list, including the only two involving **”conservatives” – both chronic anti-Trump-ers:
13 Sept: San Francisco Chronicle: Bay Area political events: Climate change, state schools chief
THURSDAY
Climate change and socialism: A discussion on socialist solutions to climate change issues, sponsored by the San Francisco Party for Socialism and Liberation. 7 p.m., 2969 Mission St., San Francisco.
Across the divide: A short group presentation followed by smaller living room conversations designed to give participants experience in building relationships with people who may have different political views. With Citizens’ Climate Lobby and Joan Blades, co-founder of Moveon.org and Living Room Conversations. Free. Google Community Space, 188 Embarcadero, San Francisco.
OCT. 23
**Rick Wilson: Republican strategist and Daily Beast columnist discusses dark politics in the age of Trump. Sponsored by the Commonwealth Club…
OCT. 25
**Max Boot: Council on Foreign Relations senior fellow and Washington Post columnist discusses his book “The Corrosion of Conservatism: Why I Left the Right” at the Commonwealth Club…
NOV. 8
Susan Rice: Former President Barack Obama’s national security adviser and U.N. ambassador discusses U.S. foreign policy priorities and national security interests. Sponsored by the World Affairs Council…
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Bay-Area-political-events-Climate-change-state-13226711.php
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Thanks Pat. Here’s another UToob Vid about the land speculation in Silicon Valley:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjXUBMkkE8 The Silicon Valley house price boom is displaying all the same symptoms as those land booms leading into 2008, the year of The Big Crash. These are:
– yes we’ve heard about the other booms and busts but this one is different
– it’s going to last forever
Both are dead wrong: it’s never different; that’s just wishful and delusional thinking, and it never lasts more than a few more weeks—months if you are really lucky.
If I had money in a bank there, I would get it all out, sell my house for as high a price as it could fetch and still sell in week RIGHT NOW and I would high tail it to somewhere “safe.” Trouble is I don’t where that would be.
Credit fuelled crashes are global. I suspect South Africa will ignite, the Middle East and North Africa,
in flames right behind. Europe may have to impose martial law … and some idiots will throw atom bombs at each other.
Hang on. I’m going to dig myself a big hole …
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no MSM coverage at all.
PIC ONLY. Chinese flag appears to be above the US flag behind Gore!
14 Sept: Xinhua: Opening ceremony of China Pavilion held in San Francisco
PHOTO CAPTION: Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore addresses the opening ceremony of the China Pavilion, in San Francisco, the United States, Sept. 12, 2018.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-09/14/c_137466299.htm
13 Sept: Xinhua: Spotlight: China applauded for leading int’l efforts in tackling climate change
“China’s leadership has been truly outstanding. I want to repeat the gratitude people around the world feel for China,” said Al Gore, former vice president of the United States, at the China Pavilion during the ongoing Global Climate Action Summit here.
He said it is high time that countries stepped up financing clean energy and phased out subsidies of fossil fuels as consequences of climate crisis such as increasing occurrence of major storms are beginning to awaken people all over the world.
“It is significant that China is also the global leader in financing renewable energy,” he said…
According to Bloomberg New Energy Finance, China’s investment in clean energy stood at 132.6 billion U.S. dollars in 2017, accounting for nearly 40 percent of the global total.
Meanwhile, Chinese companies accounted for around 60 percent of total annual solar cell manufacturing capacity globally last year, data from the International Energy Agency showed…
Nicholas Stern, chair of Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment at London School of Economics and Political Science, said that China should be in the leading position to enhance actions on climate change…
Stern showed the audience a graph of China’s emission in the 21st century, which, with ups and downs, indicates a development path. “China is not only acting itself, it’s carrying very powerful messages for development around the world,” he said.
He added that through the “extremely important and positive” Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), China will be able to show roughly half of the world’s population that achieving growth does not necessarily result in damage to the climate…
The event is hosted by the Ministry of Ecology and Environment of China and the western U.S. state of California, with support from Energy Foundation.
China and the state of California have a longstanding, successful partnership on climate and clean energy. Keynote speakers at the event pointed out the importance for the two sides to enhance cooperation and lead global efforts…
In the meantime, the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen’s experience of simultaneously achieving air quality and carbon emission goals was shared and praised during panel discussions…
Eric Heitz, CEO and co-founder of Energy Foundation, said these stories about prosperous low carbon development will be the “main course” of the 21st century.
“It is just great to see this cooperation here today between California and China, and to watch innovations by each actor, and to see how these policies can move rapidly around the world,” said Heitz…
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-09/13/c_137464999.htm
Energy Foundation Board includes
Obama’s head of EPA, Gina McCarthy, ETC
https://www.ef.org/board/
Philanthropedia Energy Foundation, founded 1991, HQ San Francisco
Mission: The Energy Foundation is a partnership of major donors interested in solving the world’s energy problems. Their mission is to advance energy efficiency and renewable energy — new technologies that are essential components of a clean energy future
Total Revenue: $102,883,054
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China is taking over it’s latest African colony, Zambia:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWYQECDN2iM
Sure, China has installed a huge number of windmills but if 56% of them are not connected, then they must be just … propaganda.
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even tho I quite enjoy a bit of RT, almost all their presenters are “warmists”, and almost all supported/support Bernie Sanders and Jeremy Corbyn.
here is Sophie Shevardnadze, granddaughter of former Georgian President and Soviet minister of foreign affairs Eduard Shevardnadze:
VIDEO: 29mins: 14 Sept: Russia Today:Sophie & Co: It’s only the beginning of climate crisis – Nobel Peace Prize laureate
With more violent hurricanes and scorching heat waves advancing, can we really get our act together and do something about climate change? We talked to Rae Kwon Chung, Nobel Peace Prize winner as a member of the Intergovernmental Panel for Climate Change and a Global Energy Prize International Award Committee member.
TRANSCRIPT… CLICK ‘FULL TEXT’
check the section starting: SS: Let’s talk electric “supergrids”…
https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/438426-climate-change-rae-kwon-chung/
re the guest, Rae Kwon Chung:
UNESCO Future Forum – panelist
Ambassador Chung is the chief negotiator for climate change issues representing the Republic of Korea since May 2008. Since the early 1990s Ambassador Chung has been involved in international environmental negotiations for climate change and the Rio Earth Summit in 1992. He contributed as a lead author for an IPCC special report on technology transfer and received a personal copy of 2007 Nobel Peace Prize as contributor to the award of IPCC Nobel Peace Prize 2007. He studied at Georgetown University in Washington D.C. and graduated with MA for Foreign Service. He served as Director-General for International Economic Affairs, Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade of Korea. While working at UN ESCAP (Economic and Social Commission for Asia and the Pacific) as Director for Environment and Sustainable Development Division, he was promoting a new paradigm of “Green Growth” as a regional strategy of sustainable development for Asia and the Pacific.
3 Jul: EurActiv: ‘Super Grids Silk Road’ takes shape in Kazakhstan
By Georgi Gotev reporting from Astana
A series of conferences dedicated to the China-promoted One Belt One Road initiative are taking place in the capital of Kazakhstan, Astana. Plans to launch a gigantic renewable energy project with the potential to supply the EU were also mooted…
The aim is to massively increase the possibility of the 64 countries along the New Silk Road to tap into cheap alternative energy…
Rae Kwon Chung, Climate Change Advisor to the Secretary General of the UN, and ex-Ambassador for Climate Change of the Republic of Korea, made even bolder statements.
Rae Kwon Chung is co-winner of the 2007 Nobel Peace prize together with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). He said the ‘Super Grids Silk Road’ was about investing billions of dollars in solar and wind energy and supplying it along the historic route.
At present, the Silk Road countries are suffering from electricity shortages, including cities in south Kazakhstan. But there were many bankable projects, he said, citing the ‘Asia Super Grid’ in Mongolia, an ambitious series of wind power projects.
SoftBank of Japan, he said, was willing to invest almost $280 billion in Mongolia to export power produced from wind to China, Korea and Japan. He said that the technology was no longer a problem and that the only outstanding issues are political.
In this particular case, the Japanese power company objects to the idea of importing electricity, he said.
But if countries along the Silk Road agree, the political momentum is there, because they support China’s mega project, the Korean climate change leading expert said.
Rae Kwon Chung also agreed that the ideal bank to fund ‘Super Grids Silk Road’ is the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) and said the Global Energy Interconnection Development and Cooperation Organisation (GEIDCO) could oversee it.
With its permanent office in Beijing, GEIDCO is a non-governmental, non-profit international organisation of willing firms, associations, institutions and individuals dedicated to promoting the sustainable development of energy worldwide.
Asked by EURACTIV about a possible role of the EU, he said: “They can be an investor. And also they can import electric energy from ‘Super Grids Silk Road’.
He added: “They [the EU] will no longer need Gazprom Russia. This project will be of huge scale, because Central Asia has a huge land space, and the potential to be an exporter of electricity to Europe”.
Rae Kwon Chung said that particular aspect of the project could get off the ground in “maybe in 20 or 30 years. And it will take some time to work on political agreements.”
The Korean expert argued that the climate change impact would be particularly severe in the Middle East and in Central Asia. Until the end of the century temperatures could go up to 6.5 degrees centigrade for Central Asia, which would make it very difficult for people living in this huge area to adapt…
https://www.euractiv.com/section/central-asia/news/super-grids-silk-road-takes-shape-in-kazakhstan/
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how cosy!
13 Sept: ClimateChangeNews: Let down by Trump on climate, China goes around him in California
At the Four Seasons hotel in San Francisco, the superpower and the US state cut diplomatic deals that fly in the face of White House policy
By Karl Mathiesen in San Francisco
In downtown San Francisco, the fifth floor of the Four Seasons hotel has been transformed into a Chinese diplomatic outpost.
Translators and staffers chat excitedly in the corridors; the great and the good of global climate governance appear one by one; and behind doors that swing open and then quickly closed, officials from the superpower and the Californian government cut climate deals that fly in the face of White House policy…
And the Chinese are making their own statement in San Francisco. More than fifty Chinese officials, academics and business leaders are listed on a three day programme of events. With their staff, the Chinese are the most significant non-US presence at the summit…
In remarks to a room filled to standing at the back, Brown thanked the “very large Chinese delegation”, which included Xie Zhenhua, China’s long-standing climate majordomo and the top official in the delegation.
“Just the fact that you are here, in such numbers, and people of such importance and expertise says volumes about the commitment of China to confronting climate change,” (Brown) said…
On Wednesday, the former French diplomat (Laurence Tubiana), now head of the European Climate Foundation, watched as Brown and Xie signed multiple cooperation deals on research, industry and climate politics.
“I think [the Chinese] are really lost,” Tubiana said. “I think they struggle to recognise that the US has disappeared on [climate change]. They just can’t accept that totally, so they are looking for somebody to talk to. I think that’s why they invested so much in Jerry Brown.”…
“I think for the moment it’s a placeholder and [China] will long for a new administration… but they play their cards too and California is an important place,” said Tubiana…
“We’re not small potatoes,” said Brown. “We’re big.”
A few minutes earlier, when Brown had risen to address the delegation, laughter rippled through the crowd. The Chinese-to-English interpreter had mistranslated his introduction, calling Brown the “president” of California…
“It’s really, really incredible… It’s just a major event,” said Tubiana, before drifting away to catch up with her old friend Xie…
Xie Zhenhua added that China considered itself a “leader in global action on climate change” and announced the creation of the Global Climate Action Initiative, which will channel Chinese philanthropic funding to support the government’s low carbon development push.
That was significant, said economist Nicholas Stern. China has long been reluctant to declare itself a frontrunner on climate change.
“It’s so important for the world that… China is in a leading position [on climate change],” he said. Adding that China’s 14th five year plan for 2021-2025 and its multi-trillion dollar belt and road overseas investment initiative would shape the “future of the world”.
Brown agreed…
For example, Brown said, China must continue to mandate ever-higher quotas for its car makers to produce electric vehicles. A prospect that terrifies European automakers…
“We need zero emissions cars. China has 1.5 million. We need China to have 100 million. And in California we want at least 5 million electric cars,” said Brown. “We can only do that if China continues on a parallel path and even increases ambition, requiring auto companies, whether Chinese, European or American, in order to sell any cars in China, they should be selling much more electric cars.”
This mutual dependence in the face of mutual threat was a recipe to overcome the two countries differences, said Brown.
Xie Yuan agreed: “Both China and the US have a shared destiny and shared future.”
http://www.climatechangenews.com/2018/09/13/let-trump-climate-china-goes-around-california/
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Zero emmission cars!? good grief, are they really that stupid?
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14 Sept: Carbon Pulse: New ministry set-up raises questions over China’s ETS
China this week finalised the structure of its new super ministry for the environment without a mention of the national emissions trading scheme and with the climate change division stripped of some of its responsibilities.
14 Sept: Carbon Pulse: Analysts see bumpy road ahead for South Korea’s CO2 market
South Korean CO2 prices are likely to be volatile over the next three years as an early, large permit surplus is replaced by shortages later in the trading phase, analysts at trading firm Ecoeye said Thursday.
13 Sept: Carbon Pulse: Poland minister calls for EU ETS intervention following price spike
Poland’s energy minister on Thursday urged Brussels to step in to cool EU ETS prices, which this week spiked to a 10-year high near €26, Polish newswire PAP reported.
13 Sept: Carbon Pulse: EU Market: EUAs crash back to earth in largest one-day drop since 2006
EUAs plummeted by more than €4 or nearly 18% on Thursday in their biggest daily drop since 2006, wiping out September’s stellar gains as sellers unwound positions and placed bearish bets following the recent spike.
14 Sept: Carbon Pulse: EU carbon price spike linked to massive losses for Nordic power trader, energy exchange
The recent spike in EU carbon prices has been tied to a massive loss booked by a major Nordic power market trader that has likely bankrupted him and cost energy exchange Nasdaq and its members over €100 million.
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novel length:
13 Sept: CarbonBrief: Q&A: Why cement emissions matter for climate change
by Jocelyn Timperley
If the cement industry were a country, it would be the third largest emitter in the world.
In 2015, it generated around 2.8bn tonnes of CO2, equivalent to 8% of the global total – a greater share than any country other than China or the US.
Cement use is set to rise as global urbanisation and economic development increases demand for new buildings and infrastructure. Along with other parts of the global economy, the cement industry will need to dramatically cut its emissions to meet the Paris Agreement’s temperature goals. However, only limited progress has been made so far…
Q: Which countries have high cement emissions?
A: China is by far the largest producer of cement, followed far behind by India and the combined countries of the EU, as the graph below from a recent report by Chatham House shows. Three-quarters of cement production since 1990 occurred in China, which used more cement between 2011 and 2013 than the US did in the entire 20th century…
However, Chinese consumption may be close to levelling off.
In contrast, India’s consumption is set to increase significantly as it in turn rapidly urbanises and builds infrastructure. Most future growth is expected to happen in India and other emerging markets…
Q: Can cement demand be reduced?
A: Reducing demand for cement could also help to limit emissions, particularly in developing countries. For example, Chatham House highlights how urban designs based on a “capillary web” system and walking rather than cars can use a third less concrete. Similarly, principles from Gothic cathedrals have been used to design modern concrete floors that are 70% lighter than conventional counterparts…
Concrete in buildings could also be replaced with timber…
***(LOL) China’s ETS, is expected to expand to include cement, though it will only cover the power sector in its first phase…
https://www.carbonbrief.org/qa-why-cement-emissions-matter-for-climate-change
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The requirement for cement is accelerating; wind generator towers require a massive concrete base to anchor them.
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All very interesting but, as I think we all realise here, once carbon dioxide levels reach about 300 ppm any further increase has an insignificant effect on global temperatures.
This is because the CO2 ‘window’ is already as closed as it can get by that time – i.e. the IR-absorption-emission wavelengths are choked and any further increase in CO2 is irrelevant. Once a window is fully shut, you can’t shut it any tighter!
So all the rhetoric about “2.8bn tonnes of CO2”, and various other quantities bandied about by earnest but clueless environmentalists, is of no consequence. It’s all pointless.
Burn coal if you like; mix and pour quintillions of tonnes of concrete; breed herds of belching farting cattle for milk and butter and cheese and meat. Emit gigatonnes of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere until we double the present concentration of the stuff to 800 ppm.
It doesn’t matter!
We’ll still have the lowest levels of atmospheric CO2 Earth has experienced since the Carboniferous Period, 300 million years ago, and our planet’s average temperature will remain essentially unchanged.
Our green plants, on the other hand, will just LOVE IT!
These are the facts.
[Incidentally, ‘pat’, forgive my stupidity but I sometimes have trouble figuring out what you’re trying to say in your posts. You seem to be reproducing reams of standard alarmist spiel but I don’t seem to be able to determine whether you’re lampooning it or supporting it.
Perhaps you could enlighten me? Thanks.]
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You could add to the CO2 increase the …”uncontrolled” volcanoes (underwater and land)…seems noone wants to give a estimated figure on those !
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14 Sept: ClimateChangeNews: Call for climate justice as millions brace for intense storms
Typhoon Mangkhut and Hurricane Florence are set to make landfall on opposite sides of the world, bringing destruction likely exacerbated by climate change
By Megan Darby
Millions of people braced for two destructive tropical storms making landfall in the Philippines and US on Friday…
In both places, the looming crisis raised questions about the influence of human-caused global warming, resilience to disaster and environmental justice…
Yeb Saño, director of Greenpeace Southeast Asia, said Mangkhut – known locally as Ompong – brought further evidence of the need to hold the fossil fuel industry to account for climate damages.
“Every super storm will have the fingerprints of climate change. As such, every life lost, every acre of crops destroyed, every house blown away, every bit of culture forever gone, is partly because of the injustice of climate change,” he told Climate Home News.
Greenpeace and other activists are suing oil and coal majors through the Philippines Human Rights Commission over their role in causing global warming impacts.
Saño added: “Running away from super storms, counting the dead, recovery, rebuilding, rehabilitation has become a way of life for us. We refuse to accept this, and our human rights case against the carbon majors is our way of telling the world that we will not take this injustice just sitting down.”…
Florence’s intensity had fallen to category 1 by the time it made landfall, but authorities warned 3-metre storm surges and heavy rainfall made it a dangerous storm…
Adding to the US challenges is a politically motivated aversion in some areas to acknowledging climate science…
Ironically, a conference on climate resilience in the Carolinas was postponed to avoid storm disruption…
***World Weather Attribution, a collective of scientists who quantify the influence of climate change on specific weather events, said it lacked the resources to independently analyse this hurricane. But the finding that global warming makes tropical storms wetter is well established, the statement added.
“What we can say with high confidence is that when there is a hurricane, the rainfall intensity is higher than it would have been without climate change,” said Friederike Otto, a leading contributor to the initiative from Oxford University.
http://www.climatechangenews.com/2018/09/14/call-climate-justice-millions-brace-intense-storms/
***Twitter: Gavin Schmidt
13 Sept: TWEET: Some people have asked about this attempt to do real time attribution of the impacts of #florence to anthropogenic climate change…READ THE REST
https://twitter.com/ClimateOfGavin/status/1040293252216352774
Carbon Brief: Climate change means Hurricane Florence will dump 50% more rain
The Guardian is among several publications reporting on the first “pre-event attribution study” finding that Hurricane Florence is set to bring 50% more rainfall to the US east coast as a result of climate change…
The new study, from scientists at Stony Brook University and the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, is the first to do this ahead of an event actually happening, Buzzfeed News reports. For the study, the researchers ran two computer simulations of the hurricane: one using current weather forecasts, and other using forecasts with the likely impact of climate change subtracted. “There was a big difference between the simulations,” Buzzfeed News says. The study finds that Hurricane Florence will be about 50 miles (80km) larger in diameter than it would be if human activity had not warmed the planet, reports InsideClimate News…
Elsewhere, the Washington Post reports on how recent sea level rise could make the hurricane’s storm surges larger…
The New York Times carries a video titled “Is climate change making hurricanes worse? Yes. Here’s why.” In addition, the Financial Times and the New York Times report on how countries in south east Asia are gearing up for “Super Typhoon Mangkhut”.
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“The RET is the toxic renewable energy target, the guaranteed gift to unreliable, uneconomic performers. It’s the cancer on the system that makes the cheap generators die. At it’s best, the RET is theft through electricity bills to support industries in China in the hope that storms will be nicer in 2100.”
And how did Australia get this toxic RET? Why from none other than Tony Abbott.
“At the time he took the decision Abbott said something quite different. In announcing Australia would adopt an emissions reduction target for 2030 of 26% to 28% on 2005 levels, Abbott said: “There’s a definite commitment to 26% but we believe under the policies that we’ve got, with the circumstances that we think will apply, that we can go up to 28%.” Sure he’s scuttled away from it now claiming ” he was misled by bureaucrats before he signed Australia up to the Paris international climate agreement in 2015″ What a totally useless PM he was
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The RET was raised by the Gillard Labor Government from the “trial basis” only, never to be raised or continued 3% established by the Howard Coalition Government shortly after the Kyoto Agreement was signed to 28%.
During the PM Abbott period in government September 2013 to September 2015 they abolished Labor’s carbon tax and attempted to abolish Labor’s RET but the Senate would not cooperate.
As you have been advised here previously the “emissions target” taken to the Paris Conference in late November 2015 ended in December 2015 was a Cabinet decision. At the time PM Abbott was being undermined by Minister for Communications Turnbull and his Black Hand faction colleagues who finally managed to replace PM Abbott with PM Turnbull in september 2015. Clearly, the decisions on what to take to Paris were cabinet decisions as most policies are. The decision can be influenced by a PM who is well supported but in 2015 Abbott was not.
I remind readers again;
Paris CONFERENCE ended December 2015
Paris AGREMENT was signed in New York by Minister Hunt in April 2016
And when PM Turnbull discovered that President Trump was planning to dump the Paris Agreement he sent Minister Hunt back to New York to ratify the Agreement.
Yes, the “fake news” MSM have been spinning lies about the Abbott Government and their mouthpieces spread the deceptive commentary, either because they are gullible or they are deliberately spreading left propaganda. In the Abbott example the Black Hand faction of Turnbull commenced the undermining, “relentless negativity”, from 2009 when they joined forces with Labor’s GetUp to get Abbott who was to Turnbull a political enemy of decades before 2009 and as Opposition Leader Turnbull proved a failure he feared that Abbott would be drafted to replace him as leader, as he was in 2009 despite the undermining underway.
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13 Sept: Scientific American blog: Yes, Climate Action Is a Moral Issue
But the actions of individuals are not where our outrage should be focused
By Sarah E Myhre
People are constantly grandstanding about what we should do to reduce our personal carbon footprints. Sometimes there is a tone of moral superiority involved, even among people who seem to be more or less on the same political side. “What—you mean you aren’t vegan? You don’t bike 10 miles to work? You don’t compost? You don’t drive a Prius? Then you don’t really care about the climate!”
That’s unfortunate, for two reasons. First, some people live in privileged communities, or belong to privileged groups, so they can do these things with relative ease. It’s not so easy to buy a hybrid car, though, if you struggle to afford rent…
That’s what a ballot initiative in my home state of Washington is trying to achieve. Voters will have the opportunity to vote on a carbon fee (Initiative 1631) this fall, which is decidedly focused on systemic change and reorganization rather than individual actions. This legislation would rein in and reduce the emissions of some of the largest polluters in the state; the revenue generated would be spent on clean energy infrastructure, the stewardship of ecosystems and the needs of frontline communities…ETC
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/yes-climate-action-is-a-moral-issue/
13 Sept: The Hill: New York City to invest $4 billion of pensions funds in climate-change projects: report
By Avery Anapol
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) on Thursday will announce a plan for the city to invest $4 billion of its pension funds into clean renewable energy and other climate-focused projects, according to the Wall Street Journal (LINK).
The investment amount, which is more than double the city’s current commitment, will span three years. The overall pension fund totals about $195 billion.
“We believe the market will respond, leading to greater access and lower cost for green technologies that will help us build a cleaner, safer and fairer city,” de Blasio said in a statement…
A new study financed by former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg projected that the U.S. will fall short of the Paris Climate Accord (LINK) greenhouse gas emission reduction targets by about one-third.
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/406461-new-york-city-to-invest-4-billion-of-pension-fund-to-combat-climate
14 Sept: Guardian: Australia on track to miss Paris climate targets as emissions hit record highs
NDEVR Environmental data suggests Australia will miss targets by 1bn tonnes of carbon dioxide under current trajectory
by Lisa Cox
The figures (LINK) from NDEVR Environmental for the year up to the end of June 2018 show the country’s emissions were again the highest on record when unreliable data from the land use and forestry sectors was excluded.
It is the third consecutive year for record-breaking emissions…
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/14/australia-on-track-to-miss-paris-climate-targets-as-emissions-hit-record-highs
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13 Sept: The Hill: Environmental group pledges $60M to help green candidates
By Miranda Green
The League of Conservation Voters (LCV) said it plans to direct its multi-million dollar spend — the largest investment it has made for any election — toward helping candidates in various races through direct donations, fundraising and advertisements.
The group will spend more than $25 million on Senate and House advertisements, $25 million on state elections, $10 million in fundraising campaigns for federal and state candidates, and $1 million towards a communications program, according to a memo (LINK) released by the organization Thursday…
LCV on Wednesday announced that more than 1,400 candidates running for office in November made a pledge to the group’s “Clean Energy for All” commitment,” a goal of making their state 100 percent clean energy reliant by 2050, including Colorado Democrat and gubernatorial candidate Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.), and Oregon’s Democratic Gov. Kate Brown…
The group has already invested large sums into local races…
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/406526-environmental-political-group-pledges-60-million-to-help-green
14 Sept: Reuters: German police clear protesters from ancient forest marked for mining
by Stephane Nietschke, writing by Joseph Nasr
HAMBACH, Germany (Reuters) – German riot police cleared environmental activists from treehouses in an ancient forest on Thursday, dismantling a protest camp set up five years ago to block a coal mining project…
“After the operation we will monitor people and vehicles trying to come here in order to prevent the reconstruction of what we so painfully dismantled,” said police spokesman Paul Kemen.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-energy/german-police-clear-protesters-from-ancient-forest-marked-for-mining-idUSKCN1LT2OC?feedType=RSS&feedName=environmentNews
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rhe globalist plan:
13 Sept: New Scientist: Half the planet should be set aside for wildlife – to save ourselves
By Michael Le Page
If we want to avoid mass extinctions and preserve the ecosystems all plants and animals depend on, governments should protect a third of the oceans and land by 2030 and half by 2050, with a focus on areas of high biodiversity. So say leading biologists in an editorial in the journal Science this week.
It’s not just about saving wildlife, says Jonathan Baillie of the ***National Geographic Society, one of the authors. It’s also about saving ourselves…
At present, just 3.6 per cent of the planet’s oceans and 14.7 per cent of the land is protected by law…
But this isn’t nearly enough, says Baillie. He and his coauthor, Ya-Ping Zhang of the ***Chinese Academy of Sciences, want governments to set much bigger targets at the next major conference in 2020…
“There is no doubt we need far more land and sea secured for conserving and retaining nature,” says James Watson at the University of Queensland in St Lucia, Australia. “Targets like 50 per cent are in the right ball park when it comes to the minimal amount of area needed to conserve biodiversity.”…
Journal reference: Science, DOI: 10.1126/science.aau1397
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2179499-half-the-planet-should-be-set-aside-for-wildlife-to-save-ourselves/
***Wikipedia: Chinese Academy of Sciences Parent agency: State Council of China; The State Council directly oversees the various subordinate People’s Governments in the provinces, and in practice maintains membership with the top levels of the Communist Party of China.
***Wikipedia: National Geographic Society: In partnership with 21st Century Fox, the Society operates the magazine, TV channels, a website that features extra content, worldwide events, and other media operations.
13 Sept: Lowy Institute: The 2018 Lowy Lecture
On 13 September Sir Frank Lowy AC delivered the 2018 Lowy Lecture at Sydney Town Hall.
One of our advantages is our location in Asia – which will be the most important region in the world in the decades to come…
For seven decades, the cornerstone of Australia’s strategy has been our relationship with Washington…
But we cannot deny that President Donald Trump is making things more complicated.
This year’s Lowy Institute Poll found that just 55% of Australians trust the United States to “act responsibly in the world.”
Only three in ten Australians have confidence in President Trump to “do the right thing regarding world affairs.”
Yet despite this, Australians continue to support the US alliance.
I find myself in agreement with my fellow Australians.
I was not so surprised that Donald Trump won the 2016 election.
I could understand that many Americans felt they wanted a change from the status quo.
But I regret that Mr Trump does not see the great advantages that flow to America from its alliances and the global trading system.
And personally, given my life experiences, I feel more comfortable when the president of the United States is an advocate of democracy, not a friend of authoritarians.
But whilst he is the President, Donald Trump is only one man – he is not the country.
Our alliance is not with the Trump administration, it is with the United States…
I should also say something about another great country that will be very important to our future – China.
As China becomes stronger it is only natural that it looks for new ways to advance its interests.
But we have our own interests, too.
Canberra should work hard to develop a cooperative relationship with Beijing…
I also want to speak about Australian domestic policies.
In order to be strong abroad, Australia must be strong at home.
We need to be strong on what I call ‘the three I(s)’ – immigration, innovation and infrastructure.
First, let me be clear: I believe in a big Australia. I am an advocate for an ambitious immigration program. I always have been…
In 2013 Rupert Murdoch made the same point from this very podium.
‘The nations that lead this century will be the ones most successful at attracting and keeping talent,’ he said.
I am a believer in an ambitious immigration program…
I have also been disturbed by the negative tone of the debate over immigration…
https://www.lowyinstitute.org/publications/2018-lowy-lecture-sir-frank-lowy-ac
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The question, of course, is which 50% of the planet will become the wildlife parks, and what will happen to the current citizens of those areas?
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Prime ministers come and go, apparently without making a difference.
While the same old bad ideas hang around.
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Sorry, my poetic ability is that of a rock unless I’m plain lucky, and even limericks,which should be easier, well sometimes I hit and sometimes it’s a mess. So you get my sentiment in prose.
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It’s a bit like a haiku.
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Former Labor Leader Mark Latham commented in 2017 that a Shorten Labor Government would be far worse than Rudd or Gillard Labor.
He is from the far-left of politics and so his the deputy leader Plibersek and many of their colleague MPs. And Shorten is a former senior union executive of the Australian Workers Union. When there he established GetUp using member’s funds and with assistance from George Soros who continues to donate to GetUp. The unions also donate to the Greens.
Former Labor PM Rudd referred to himself as a Christian Socialist (as is former UK PM Blair) and PM Gillard established the Socialist Forum as a home for communists and socialists. She merged Socialist Forum with the socialist Australian Fabian Society shortly before she became Deputy Leader to Opposition Leader Rudd in 2006.
Vote selectively and cautiously.
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All true and correct, so looking to the future, socialism with Chinese characteristics is tantalising for the Australian left.
‘China’s One-Belt, One-Road policies will define the decade ahead.’ Bill Shorten
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Two observations on many dialogs.
The first is the lack of ‘man made’ in discussing Climate Change (now that Global Warming is no longer used, as it is laughable). CO2 has gone up dramatically and nothing has changed in 100 years. So it’s all nonsense.
The second is the universal acknowledgement that Climate Change is on the Left of politics.
How can scientific facts be on the Left of politics? Climate change is socialist science? So Morrison and Frydenberg are trying to bridge the socialists with the conservatives by sticking to the RET and Paris? Doesn’t anyone see how outrageous that is? As if scientific truth is definable by your politics.
This is Political science, not Rational science. No facts, all side. Therefore it is not true because the people who hold that it is true all agree with each other simply because that is what they are told, like everything else at the ABC/SBS/BBC/CNN.
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Also, the buzz words from the Kyoto Conference and Agreement that followed were: “greenhouse gas emissions” later changed to “carbon” and “carbon pollution” and “climate change” became “global warming”.
Man-made global warming based on CO2 is a nonsense as we here all know.
And of course the science is not settled, another deceptive reference.
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‘How can scientific facts be on the Left of politics?’
Its not a good look, but if the plateau in world temperature (sic) continues, then we may have to settle for a truce.
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The left will never settle for truce. They will fight with nukes if necessary to try and maintain their hatred of anyone who dares refuses to obey them.
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Why settle for a truce when you have won? After all, we have 30 years of hindsight and despite the many trillions of wasted dollars, there never was any truth in man made Global Warming. How you can have man made Climate Change without man made Global Warming is not explained.
However the world lost a great opportunity to spend that money on something worthwhile. The windmills are useless. To think we could have had fusion by now. Perhaps the most insane waste since WWII and a lot of good came from WW2. Nothing good came from this fr*ud. Even if they did work, the windmills are universally built in rich countries. The indulgent left of politics look after themselves.
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They admit the models have failed because natural variables overwhelmed the signal, but now temperatures are set to take off again.
The hiatus has been a repeat of the 1950s and 1960s cool spell, which they say is coming to an end. We won’t have a leg to stand on.
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On the other hand, if we use the CET it may be possible to convince the waverers that AGW has been a beat-up.
https://curryja.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/14.jpg
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The populace is slowly but surely being indoctrinated to believe that 2+2=5 thanks to the schools, Universities, ABC, MSM and political propaganda machines. I really don’t see a peaceful way out of the mess we are experiencing.
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As for Morrison, we all know if he is to achieve what he promised, namely to reduce power prices significantly he has only one general approach to do it. Scrap Paris, RET and renewables subsidies. It is becoming clearer by the day he is failing on all three and so he is rapidly losing all credibility among the conservative base, much faster than what has happened to Turnbull. If this continues Shorten will be our next PM for sure. More importantly the only LNP seats that will remain should be those held by the conservatives. The rest can find another career or join the ALP. This is actually some good news since we then no longer have to deal with a fake LNP who are still pretending to be for the Liberal cause but in fact trying to be like another version of the ALP+Greens flirting with the left. We might as well have the real thing and drop the pretence. I give Morrison until the end of the year to make a real difference, a promise he made when he became PM. If we end up having an early election then the details of their energy policy they have to espouse during the campaign will reflect whether they deserve to be in government. At the moment Taylor has not yet announced any details so we can’t really make a final judgement as yet.
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Google Tape Proves You Cannot Trust CNN, NYT, or Even Fox News
https://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/09/15/nolte-google-tape-proves-you-cannot-trust-cnn-nyt-or-even-fox-news/
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Warming and politics
“The Presidential Politics of Climate Change
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/09/14/the-presidential-politics-of-climate-change/
And real fake news
“Hilarious! @weatherchannel reporter fakes intensity of #HurricaneFlorence wind – gets caught”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/09/14/hilarious-weatherchannel-reporter-fakes-intensity-of-hurricaneflorence-wind-gets-caught/
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EU borders to be forced open;
https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/09/14/orban-eu-open-border-brussels/
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From above…
‘EU plans to denationalize border protection and put Brussels
in charge present a serious threat to Hungary and the whole of
Europe, Viktor Orbán has warned.
The European Parliament’s vote on Thursday to censure Hungary
over so-called “values” poses very little threat, the prime
minister said, declaring that a much bigger battle will be over
EU draft law which would put Brussels in control of national
border protection and asylum policy.’
It’s part of the UN Agenda.
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The EU. So that government of the people, by the technocrats, for the lobbyists, shall not perish from the earth.
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What incentive will there be for anyone in the Eurozone to work and pay taxes when it is spent on maintaining the compassion industry.
Doom.
KK
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In 1979. in Hungary, the land of his birth,George Soros, man
behind the curtain operator for the supra-state,launched the
first of his Open Society Foundations to er, ‘Build vibrant
democracies’ but headed by the President Soros chose,Leninist
Marxist Aryeh Neihr has different aims. AN founder in the
1960’s of the Marxist student movement Students for Democracy, committed to overthrowing American institutions and remaking
in a Marxist mould. The Soros organization he heads has similar
aims and funds programs to herald in an era of Supra-state
governance, UN, EU style.
Soros funded programs, often funded by stealth, are directed
to the Gramsci long march through the institutions, capturing
the educational system,the media and judiciary, and corrupting
democracy by constraining free speech and critical debate.
Soros’ funded activism invokes attacks on a democratic pluralist
media, and corruption of the constitutional electoral process
and legal system of non-arbitrary rule of law for all. His Open
Society Foundation and underground network seek to bring down
the United States and other western democracies by promoting
illegal mass immigration, mostly hostile to democratic values.
Other programs include environmental activism demonizing
atmospheric CO2 and promoting costly intermittent energy sources
to affect productivity. Further to weakening society, activists
seek to legitimize illicit toxic drugs and provoke hatred of
police action that protects the populace against violent drug
offenders or political acts of hostility by migrants. Herewith
links to organizations directly and indirectly funded by Soros’
Open Society Foundation and link to OSF top 150 grantees of 2011.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1237
http://sorosfiles.com/soros/2011/10/open-society-institute-top-150-grantees.html#axzz56y1hZ5Z5
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A very informative post, thank you.
The Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming (CAGW) deception is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on humanity. And yet it is just one of many tools wielded by the likes of Soros and his associates over the last 30+ years.
As you’ve pointed out, the ‘long march through the institutions’ by the Left has infiltrated countless organisations during that period.
Today, the MainStream Media (MSM) in Western democracies are 90% left-leaning; as are the schools, higher education institutions, the hierarchies of scientific societies, and even ostensibly conservative political parties such as Australia’s LNP and America’s Republican Party.
This is why PM Morrison, leader of a supposedly conservative party, is forced to pussy-foot around his own party members. He can’t rely on their support to abandon the Paris Agreement because too many of them either believe in CAGW themselves, or have to genuflect before it because a majority of their electorates believe in it.
Such is the power of propaganda.
Normally shrewd and street-wise voters – people too smart to fall for a con trick under most other circumstances – have succumbed to decades of classroom indoctrination and media hectoring. They’re actually convinced CAGW is a serious problem, and it worries them greatly. So much so that they will even take personal offence at someone trying to explain to them that CAGW is false.
As a result, ‘Deniers’ like most of us here are personae non gratae.
Often we’re howled down as soon as we open our mouths to cast doubt on the Climate Change catechism.
The Open Society Foundations of George Soros are usually described as philanthropic. Their purpose is described as the fostering of democracy and social justice. And Soros has set them up with around $20 billion of his own money to ensure they can continue their work even after he dies.
But you’re perfectly correct, ‘beththeserf’, that Soros has no interest in the wellbeing of the downtrodden masses.
Quite the opposite.
His objective is the undermining of Western democracy and individual liberty and he’s doing it by encouraging all the disruptive agendas you’ve listed. Once Western nations have had their societal stability destroyed, their people will be ready to accept a new form of government.
My belief is that the new form of government to come has its current headquarters in New York. And its subsidiary offices are in Brussels.
And I’m afraid we’re definitely NOT going to like our new political masters.
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This Chart Shows The Bilderberg Group’s Connection To Everything In The World
You will notice that that bastard soros has his MOVEON group there……….
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/this-chart-shows-the-bilderberg-groups-connection-to-everything-in-the-world-2012-6?r=US&IR=T
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AN EXTRAORDINARY SPEECH:
14 Sept: ConservativeTreehouse: sundance: Knowing What We Know Now, We Must Remind Ourselves…
As we absorb the corrupt evidence within what the DOJ, FBI, CIA and intelligence community was willing to do to stop the Trump administration; as we absorb the totality of all methods deployed by the professional political establishment to destroy Donald J Trump; as we begin to quantify the scale of corruption within our political institutions, and continue bearing witness to the ongoing war against our the presidency; it is worthwhile revisiting a warning, a call to arms, from two-years-ago.
The lies, the severity of hatred and opposition, now make much more sense.
On October 13th 2016, presidential candidate Donald Trump delivered a speech that defines the MAGA movement within our nation’s history. Perhaps he knew; however, most did not know the incredible truth within Trump’s statements. Part of that speech has been put to a video. The entire transcript of that speech is below…
VIDEO; TRANSCRIPT
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/09/14/knowing-what-we-know-now-we-must-remind-ourselves/#more-154057
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An extraordinary speech, yes, like that other speech on liberty,
that most of the polies have long forgotten or transgressed…
‘Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on
this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated
to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that
nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long
endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have
come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting
place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might
live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate — we can not
consecrate — we can not hallow — this ground. The brave men,
living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far
above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little
note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget
what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be
dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here
have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us — that from
these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for
which they gave the last full measure of devotion — that we here
highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain —
that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom —
and that government of the people, by the people, for the people,
shall not perish from the earth.’
Abraham Lincoln
November 19, 1863
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Replyin’ ter meself, ahem… Tho’ but a serf, in Western
Civilization, gaining a voice via Leap-In-The-Dark Electoral
Reform Bills…’For the people’ NOT meaning group collectivism
but respect for individuals, the right of ‘individuals’ to go
about their ‘individual’ lives w/out klepto-fiat intervention
from those who would be king.
Listen up, Turnbull,Clintons’n Soros et AL, Scott Morrison,(?)
Rule of law for all, non-arbitrary equality before the law,
open, impartial, such the evolution of Western Civilization
from Divine Right of Kings … and so ongoing-ly under threat.
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Remember Watt Tyler.
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Watt Tyler, I knew him, K K.
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15 Sept: The Intercept: Google China Prototype Links Searches to Phone Numbers
by Ryan Gallagher
Google built a prototype of a censored search engine for China that links users’ searches to their personal phone numbers, thus making it easier for the Chinese government to monitor people’s queries, The Intercept can reveal.
The search engine, codenamed Dragonfly, was designed for Android devices, and would remove content deemed sensitive by China’s ruling Communist Party regime, such as information about political dissidents, free speech, democracy, human rights, and peaceful protest.
Previously undisclosed details about the plan, obtained by The Intercept on Friday, show that Google compiled a censorship blacklist that included terms such as “human rights,” “student protest,” and “Nobel Prize” in Mandarin…
***Sources familiar with Dragonfly said the search platform also appeared to have been tailored to replace weather and air pollution data with information provided directly by an unnamed source in Beijing. The Chinese government has a record of manipulating details about pollution in the country’s cities. One Google source said the company had built a system, integrated as part of Dragonfly, that was “essentially hardcoded to force their [Chinese-provided] data.” The source raised concerns that the Dragonfly search system would be providing false pollution data that downplayed the amount of toxins in the air…
https://theintercept.com/2018/09/14/google-china-prototype-links-searches-to-phone-numbers/
a timely reminder:
June 2013: Financial Times: Silicon Valley rooted in backing from US military
by April Dembosky in San Francisco; Additional reporting by Tim Bradshaw in San Francisco
“All of modern high tech has the US Department of Defense to thank at its core, because this is where the money came from to be able to develop a lot of what is driving the technology that we’re using today,” said Lesie Berline, historian for the Silicon Valley Archives at Stanford University.
Even the networking backbone that supports the modern global internet was first built by researchers funded by an early iteration the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. Darpa provides money from the Department of Defense to develop technologies for military use…
The Central Intelligence Agency formed its own nonprofit corporation in 1999, In-Q-Tel, to support technology being built in the commercial sector that it believed would also be useful in collecting and analysing intelligence information…These are the kinds of technologies that are conceivably being used in the National Security Agency’s alleged effort to analyse date from internet companies such as Google, Microsoft, Yahoo and Facebook…
https://www.ft.com/content/8c0152d2-d0f2-11e2-be7b-00144feab7de
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I wonder why a prosecutor has not been appointed to investigate and prosecute people in the FBI, the DOJ and the EPA and likely other government departments for corrupt behaviour?
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VIDEO: 3mins27secs: 14 Sept: Fox News: Tucker Carlson: Meteorologist: Climate change not causing more hurricanes
Former NASA scientist Dr. Roy Spencer says that the number of major hurricanes making landfall in the U.S. has actually fallen since the 1930s.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/5835087583001/?#sp=show-clips
first 8 and a half minutes is Trepanier.
at 6mins29secs: Trepanier: as we move into this future of uncertain climate…increasing heat in the atmosphere etc…
BBC was running this segment many hours after Florence had been downgraded and downgraded again…with the excuse it was a pre-recorded program:
AUDIO: 26mins29secs: 14 Sept: BBC Science in Action: The Path of Hurricane Florence
Presenter: Roland Pease
Despite the threat of Hurricane Florence to the US Eastern Seaboard, and the recent succession of tropical cyclones around the world, this current Atlantic hurricane season looks like it’ll just be an average storm season, after a slow start. Dr. Jill Trepanier, a climate scientist at Louisiana State University, studies the processes that create and sustain hurricanes, and explains why Florence is taking its unusual track to the North and South Carolina coast…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/w3cswmpx
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could have been any number of “reporters”:
14 Sept: The Hill: Weather Channel defends reporter seen in viral Hurricane Florence video
By Justin Wise
The video clip posted to Twitter appeared to mock the reporter’s hurricane coverage, suggesting he was exaggerating the storm’s force.
The video shows longtime Weather Channel meteorologist and reporter Mike Seidel as he tried to gain his footing as the storm’s winds bore down on him.
“This is about as nasty as its been,” Seidel, who was reporting from Wilmington, N.C., says in the clip while bracing against the wind.
The camera then pans over to a pair of figures casually walking on a road behind the reporter…
The video had been viewed more than 3.6 million times and had received almost 60,000 retweets as of Friday evening…
The Weather Channel noted in a statement to The Hill that the reporter was standing on wet grass and was “undoubtedly exhausted.”
“It’s important to note that the two individuals in the background are walking on concrete, and Mike Seidel is trying to maintain his footing on wet grass, after reporting on-air until 1:00 a.m. ET this morning and is undoubtedly exhausted,” the network said…
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/406808-weather-channel-defends-reporter-seen-in-viral-hurricane-florence-video
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Florence was always going to be a really bad storm and never going to be a Cat 4 on landfall. It’s not that a cat 5 hasn’t made landfall in the US (one did in 1935) or that there haven’t been plenty of Cat 5’s in the Atlantic, including very recently (2005, 2015). Moreover, a storm without extremes of pressure and wind-speed can be more terrible than a category hurricane if it is big enough and wet enough.
But Florence is just Florence. Big, lots of water, not so much wind. The precautions and evacuations were probably justified. But none of this explains the utter and obvious foolishness of that Weather Channel reporter. He was on a political mission, and we all know what that mission was.
Sadly, I think this is what goes on all the time with all the news. It’s just worse now because of the centralisation and corporatisation. You little local paper is co-ordinated with the Times of London and WSJ. Washington Post and CNN are like Australia’s ABC: giant organs of giant government. It’s just that the ABC has to tell you.
As for sources…who’s going to risk getting into trouble while doing actual work when they can just slop up whatever Reuters, AFP, and AP etc want to put on a plate for them. And do we seriously reckon banksters and governments aren’t making sure there are no naughty agencies mucking about with the official yarn? We’re allowed a blue team and a red team to cheer for, a Malcolm or a Bill…and that’s all we’re allowed.
Really, the news media are worthless.
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You can tell he is faking it also by his rocking motion.
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Pat, did they add any explanation as to why he was leaning the wrong way?
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Good spotting, Jack. The knee should be crooked on the wind side. I was caught a few years back on a narrow track above a gully with a gale roaring from the high side. No question of leaning where the wind wanted to take me. (In fact I ended up crawling.)
This is a real classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTWY14eyMFg
Not satire from the Onion or the makers of Dad’s Army. It’s how CNN produced news in 1990 and how it still produces news.
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couldn’t see any mention he doesn’t live in the constituency, but thought media was reporting that during the week:
15 Sept: AFR: Neither ‘conservative’ nor ‘moderate’: Who is Liberal candidate Dave Sharma?
by Ronald Mizen
When Canadian-born Dave Sharma stood to give his candidate’s speech to Liberal Party faithful on Thursday night, he began with a little joke: he was definitely not a dual citizen, he declared, and waved the requisite paperwork to prove it.
After six rounds of voting, Mr Sharma was declared the Liberal’s candidate for Wentworth at the upcoming byelection…
***Mr Sharma also said be believed in man made climate change and that, “as part of any energy plan, renewables will need to play a part, as will other sources of energy [and] storage for renewables”…
https://www.afr.com/news/politics/national/neither-conservative-nor-moderate-who-is-liberal-candidate-dave-sharma-20180914-h15dpv
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PIC: 13 Sept: NBC Los Angeles: Giant White Polar Bear Sculpture Erected in San Francisco as Stark Reminder of Climate Change
By Kiki Intarasuwan
Climate change has real effect on human and animals lives and a giant white polar bear sculpture in front of the Ferry Plaza Building is here to remind everyone of that.
The 35-foot tall “Long View Polar Bear” statue made from recycled car hoods was put on display as leaders and activists from around the world gather this week in San Francisco for the Global Climate Action Summit, and to send the message about carbon footprint and habitat loss.
Scientists blame global warming for the dwindling ice cover on the Arctic Ocean. Because the ice is shrinking, the bears are having a harder time catching food during their prime hunting time.
“Taking the ‘Long View’ is crucial to survival,” said DKLA Design drafts, the art collective that produces one-of-a kind monuments.
“Animals disappear to make room for our cars. Turning wrecked cars into monumental animals visually reverses this process and impacts the consciousness of the viewer,” the statement read.
The sculpture was debuted during this year’s Burning Man Festival and it will tour the country with its environmental message, according to organizers.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/california/Giant-White-Polar-Bear-Sculpture-Stands-in-San-Francisco-493089091.html
13 Sept: The Daily Beast: Harrison Ford Takes Aim at Climate Change Deniers: ‘Stop Electing Leaders Who Don’t Believe in Science’
The actor took the stage in San Francisco for the 2018 Global Climate Action Summit to voice his concerns over environmental destruction and anti-science political leaders.
by Libby Torres
Ford’s speech touched on a number of issues, and offered a grim outlook for humanity should we continue to ignore climate change. “If we don’t change the path that we’re on today, the future of humanity is at stake,” a solemn Ford declared. He continued, addressing attendees directly: “While you work to meet the challenge of climate change, I beg of you—don’t forget nature. Because today, the destruction of nature accounts for more global emissions than all the cars and trucks in the world.”…
TWEET: Sam Brock, NBC Bay Area: An impassioned- and very serious Harrison Ford- tells the crowd here at the Moscone Center— “I’m here, you’re here, because we *care…if we can’t protect nature, we can’t protect ourselves.”
At other points in his speech, which was posted on Twitter, Ford referred to climate change as a “monster” and encouraged everyone to “shut off [their] phones, roll up [their] sleeves, and kick this monster’s ass.”
The actor, of Star Wars and Indiana Jones fame, has been outspoken in his critiques of climate change deniers. He slammed the Trump administration while accepting an award from environmental nonprofit Conservation International last November.
“We face an unprecedented moment in this country. Today’s greatest threat is not climate change, not pollution, not flood or fire. It’s that we’ve got people in charge of important shit who don’t believe in science,” he said during his 2017 acceptance speech, according to The Hollywood Reporter. He also criticized politicians who allow “political or economic self-interest denigrate or belittle sound scientific understanding of the causes and effects of human pressure on the environment.”
Ford took aim at the Trump administration again on Thursday, closing his speech with passionate remarks. “For God’s sake, stop electing leaders who don’t believe in science,” he exclaimed. Even worse, he said, are those who “pretend they don’t believe in science” for political motives. “Never forget who you’re fighting for,” he urged attendees.
Ford has been an ardent environmentalist for decades, but has recently stepped up his advocacy in the face of the Trump administration’s backwards approach to climate change and the environment. The president infamously withdrew the United States from the Paris Climate Accord, and his administration recently announced new “rules” for coal-powered plants. Even Trump’s EPA the new rules will cause more than one thousand deaths per year.
If only a plucky young starship pilot could team up with a Wookie, a young Jedi, and a space princess to free us from the clutches of Darth Vader and his evil empire.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/harrison-ford-takes-aim-at-climate-change-deniers-stop-electing-leaders-who-dont-believe-in-science
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Trying to out green the greens is not a traditional liberal value , scomo knows he has to seperate himself from the herd he just has to grow a pair .
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That’s what we are waiting for him to do; to be a real alternative to the Greens and the ALP on energy policy. So far he’s not much different to Turnbull’s.
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It’s not in his dna………
morrison has to go!!
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Well, that’s nailed that then.
No Lib or National candidate will get a primary vote from me. That will go to any bonafide independent or conservative individual/party candidate whose solemn oath is to dump the RET, exit the UN, dump the Paris Accord etc. Oh, and to dun Turnbull for the $444million he blithely handed over to his mates to “fix” the non-existent problem with the GBR.
ALP and green scum, it should go without saying, will always be at the bottom.
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A good list.
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The only parties that come close to what you want are ACP and ON. Clearly our only hope is we all vote for one of them if they have a candidate in your electorate for the lower house. Same with the Senate. To vote for either ALP, Greens or LNP means more of the same – better to vote informal if neither an ACP or ON candidate is available. If only PUP (Palmer United Party) wasn’t such a pup. His policies are the best but he can’t be trusted given his history.
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I follow Clive’s twitter account. He has a fairly common sense post about coal-fired power pinned to the top of his page, but then comes out just below with garbage like this:
What do these two have in common?
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http://catallaxyfiles.com/2018/06/15/cut-the-beer-tax-and-win-a-landslide-a-la-ontario/ A suggestion for some policies to demand are implemented in Aus. It worked for the Ontarions…..
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https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/tony-abbott-survives-shock-challenge-but-may-have-secured-just-55-per-cent-of-vote-20180915-p50406.html?crpt=homepage
Oh NO!!!!! Our Tones in trouble!! He’s better bunk off and run with Corgi B i reckon. 🙂
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The demographics have changed but he’s home safe.
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RIP LIBERAL PARTY…………
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I’m sure it’s not an original thought, but was Turnbill a plant by the a Labour Party, a stooge to bring the Libs to their knees, hanging on just long enough to force a bye election on a minority Government?
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Australia still believes in Paris Agreement—led by the nose……
http://morningmail.org/australia-still-believes-paris-agreement/#comment-87816
morrison has to go !!
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… but wait, look over there.
‘The PM says Labor’s 45 pc emissions reduction target would lead to the closure of every coal-fired power station.’ Oz
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