Chinese company flew 80 tons of medical masks, suits, to China in Feb

Asleep at the wheel.

The Lucky Country wakes up to the cost of globalization. There are only 3,000 Covid cases here, we have barely begun, yet we’re already running out of protective gear. The lives of our doctors and nurses are at risk because bureaucrats were too slow to see the obvious, blindly unaware of foreign allegiances, and they kept using the old Influenza plan when this wasn’t influenza.

The media, led by the bloated ABC, reinforced all the incompetence, more worried that we might made bad jokes about shaking hands in hospital.

Meanwhile, below, China now has excess masks which it is donating to Belt and Road Slaves in Europe and to nations where it wants access to 5G network deals. Our masks, used as levers for China to gain power.

50 shades of incompetance

Chinese-backed company’s mission to send Australian medical supplies to China, by Kate McClymont.

According to a company newsletter, the Greenland Group sourced 3 million protective masks, 700,000 hazmat suits and 500,000 pairs of protective gloves from “Australia, Canada, Turkey and other countries.”

This is the free market at work — to some extent, those supplies were more needed in Wuhan in January than in Sydney, but it left us wide open. If journalists had asked better questions of our politicians, we might end up with better politicians:

The Greenland group, which is majority owned by the Shanghai government, has sold more than a billion dollars worth of residential apartments in Sydney and Melbourne since its arrival in 2013.

A whistleblower from the company has told the Herald it was a worldwide Greenland effort — and the Sydney office was no different, sourcing bulk supplies of surgical masks, thermometers, antibacterial wipes, hand sanitisers, gloves and Panadol for shipping.

“Basically all employees, the majority of whom are Chinese, were asked to source whatever medical supplies they could,” one company insider told the Herald.

A second Chinese property company based in Sydney flew more than 80 tonnes of medical supplies to Wuhan in late February.

Kate McClymont, The Sydney Morning Herald

A second Chinese property company based in Sydney flew more than 80 tonnes of medical supplies on a corporate jet to Wuhan in late February, at the time coronavirus was devastating the regional city.

“The chartered plane with 90 tons (82 tonnes) of medical supplies, including 100,000 most needed protective coveralls and 900,000 pairs of medical gloves, has successfully departed from Sydney and arrived in Wuhan on 24 Feb,” Risland Australia posted on its LinkedIn page.

Australia is already running out of masks:

As the surge of coronavirus infections increases, healthcare workers are becoming desperate. “The shortage of personal protective equipment in NSW hospitals is scandalous,” one healthcare worker told the Herald. “Doctors and nurses on the front line feel inadequately protected, exposed and vulnerable.”

In one major Sydney hospital “junior doctors are being told there are only 30 N95 masks available for all operating theatres”. The healthcare worker said this was forcing people to source masks from the “black market,” the quality of which is dubious.

Greenland Group sourced 3 million protective masks, 700,000 hazmat suits and 500,000 pairs of protective gloves from several countries including Australia.

Only two months too late:

The Minister for Home Affairs Peter Dutton is working on a plan to crack down on hoarders who are profiteering out of COVID-19 as well as giving authorities more powers to be able to seize items at the border including medical supplies.

After covering up the severity of coronavirus and ruthlessly buying our personal protection equipment, China is now using that equipment to further its own power and wealth. Some of those purchases were not because Chinese docs needed the gear, but because China knew we would:

How China is Exploiting the Coronavirus to Weaken Democracies, by Peter Rough.

Beijing has reinforced this propaganda campaign by sending medical supplies to Europe. It is hard to believe that a country that interns more than 1 million of its own citizens is capable of altruism. Indeed, every Chinese action betrays a Machiavellian motivation behind a humanitarian guise.

Take, for example, the decision by Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei to donate 800,000 masks to the Netherlands. Why would the conglomerate, known for its closeness to the Chinese government, display such benevolence toward a country which, at the time, had hardly any coronavirus cases? Surely it could not be because the Netherlands’ auction of fifth-generation (5G) mobile licenses is slated for June, and because the Dutch still have to decide whether to exclude Huawei from its 5G networks over espionage concerns.

Or consider Italy, where China has sent doctors and donated ventilators that have been in short supply. Does China’s newfound interest in Italy’s well-being stem from genuine concern, or from that of Rome’s status as one of Europe’s biggest supporters of the Belt and Road Initiative?

Hands up who thinks China has our best interests at heart.

Save our doctors and nurses, sell the ABC and use the money to buy masks and gloves.

h/t Dave B, Peter C, Bill in Oz!

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105 comments to Chinese company flew 80 tons of medical masks, suits, to China in Feb

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    Kalm Keith

    Border Force.

    Border Farce.

    It seems that money can buy anything, even a hole in the export scrutiny process.

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      UK-Weather Lass

      Has globalisation harmed us all and will the deaths of much local self sufficiency, local knowledge, local manufacture, local innovation, local hope, local determination and local community lead us to a better world. Perhaps Covid-19 may have a happy ending if as a species we truly learn from the experience.

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      Environment Skeptic

      a hole in the export scrutiny process.

      Paper masks are a dime a dozen…what is happening to the exports of industrial/reusable ‘full face’ masks that have a reliable/washable/etc facial/peripheral silicone seal? What! ?? And the suits? may as well add, what is the thing with paper masks? My local hardware still has lots of silicone rubber, valved face respirators…as far as i can tell….

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        Kalm Keith

        “Paper masks are a dime a dozen…”

        I totally agree. The other big danger in using these face Masks is that the exhalation is badly restricted no matter how good the vents.

        This can rapidly lead to a buildup of CO2 behind the mask.

        Normally inhaled air has about 400 ppm CO2 and exhaled content is 40,000 ppm.

        If mask inhalation is restricted and 50% effective then each mask breath is 20,200 ppm in and maybe 50,000 outgoing. Then there’s the second breath. Best to lift the mask off the face every 10 breaths to reduce dangerous CO2 levels.

        In the absence of face masks ear plugs are available from most pharmacies and these make excellent nose plugs which greatly reduce the inhalation of the CV19 virii.

        We can get through this.

        China will help us. Just as soon as they finish sorting out who gets what in Tibet and who will be the next governor of those islands nobody else wants in the South China sea.

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          Kalm Keith

          My apologies to all sane readers.

          This post is by design claptrap and is meant to fill the space left when politicians, academics and public media left their posts to join Prince Charles and Sir David Attenborough In self isolation.

          Whatever is written here could not be more disconnected than the current efforts of our “Leaders” who seem to be having trouble defining the problem and applying non-destructive solutions.

          Pray for them.

          Double K.

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      James Poulos

      Not everything Double K…

      The shelves are still full of Vegan supplies.

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    OriginalSteve

    Hey look….

    Global “problem” requires global solution…global govt.

    Problem…Reaction…Solution

    Ah…now we see the real Elite agenda….

    We’ve been had….the virus might be real, but the aim to make the sheep cry out for a “solution”. Kind of proves IMHO it’s a built-to-order bug….

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/mar/26/gordon-brown-calls-for-global-government-to-tackle-coronavirus

    “Gordon Brown calls for global government to tackle coronavirus
    Ex-PM at centre of 2008 banks rescue suggests taskforce of leaders and health experts

    “Gordon Brown has urged world leaders to create a temporary form of global government to tackle the twin medical and economic crises caused by the Covid-19 pandemic.

    “The former Labour prime minister, who was at the centre of the international efforts to tackle the impact of the near-meltdown of the banks in 2008, said there was a need for a taskforce involving world leaders, health experts and the heads of the international organisations that would have executive powers to coordinate the response.

    “A virtual meeting of the G20 group of developed and developing countries, chaired by Saudi Arabia, will be held on Thursday, but Brown said it would have been preferable to have also included the UN security council.

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      Deplorable Lord Kek

      That’s pretty funny, given that the WHO, part of the current ‘global governance’ played a major part in the creation of the pandemic by refusing to shut down China.

      Of course, the ‘elites’ love globalism because international organizations are largely unaccountable, by design.

      As, for example, the EU:

      “Europe’s incomplete integration—with its confusing mix of powers delegated to Brussels and powers retained by national governments—is often seen as a design flaw. But to Slobodian’s globalists, partial integration is precisely the goal—it means that neither the national nor the international body have the legitimacy and capacity to direct the economy. With no international entanglements, a government is sovereign; with complete integration, sovereignty moves to the higher level. What is wanted is a situation in which some powers but not others are delegated, leaving neither national nor super-national governments able to act outside of circumscribed role.” (The Market Police, review of Quinn Slobodian – Globalists: The End of Empire and the Birth of Neoliberalism (2018) by J. W. Mason Boston Review).

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        Bulldust

        I believe there is a petition with over half a million signatures to give Tedros the flick as WHO chief. Not that it will achieve much. He is China’s bought and paid for man.

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        ivan

        It would also help if people had a good look at what went on at Event 201 at the end of last year. From the videos and transcript it appears thy were aware of this then and gearing up to exploit it.

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      Bill In Oz

      Are we not all fortunate that the British people gave Brown is big kick up the bum circa 2012 ?
      But he never was one to know when he was not welcome !

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    PeterS

    Note too it’s now a criminal offence to do what they did. Too bad it can’t be retrospective.

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      Deplorable Lord Kek

      they could have made it retrospective.

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      Sceptical Sam

      And Australia’s China lobbyists think the banning of Huawei was racist.

      Why do we not have the MSM interviewing Bob Carr on this?

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        truth

        The ideological wilful contempt of democracy by almost all of Australia’s ‘journalists’…especially on-air journalists…and especially ABC and SKYNEWS Daytime…is the key to whether Australia thrives and grows as a sovereign nation….or not.

        Having aired only one side of the US news since 2016 and thereby induced in Australians a jaundiced and false CNN/Democrat fake news view of the Trump presidency and of the climate change issue…SKY Daytime has now stepped their management of news up a notch by having almost all of the commentary by LW ‘experts’…spokespeople…politicians…notably de-platforming that pesky truth-teller Craig Kelly…along with other conservatives….and elevating..pandering and deferring to the anti-Australian[ IMO] neo-Communist Australia Institute and its ubiquitous Ben Oquist….amongst others who lust for open borders and relinquishment of Australian sovereignty to the malevolent Socialist poobahs of Europe.

        When these high-paid hacks ask a question of a politician it’s always with their own LW agendas in mind…their ultimate internationalist aim of Australia as a pawn in a Global Socialist New Dawn…wherein Australia takes orders as pre-Brexit UK has…from the evil gnomes of Paris…Berlin and Geneva…ie Australia …most people-friendly country on earth…lost forever.

        Labor/Left takeover of journalism and education at all levels under cover of their pretence at cultivating freedom of speech…commerce etc…is their ‘means’ to that ‘ends’…even while undermining it under cover of Human Rights Commissioners etc.

        Rudd revealed his real aim when he loudly proclaimed the GFC as a capitalist catastrophe when it was totally underpinned by Socialist engineering by a Socialist administration …and the beneficiaries were uber-rich Socialists in and allied to that administration….starting with the Treasury Secretary who had signed off on the huge changes required to enable the Socialist catastrophe.

        After this crisis the same remedy will be invoked again …with a carefully-cultivated new generation of Marxists as their fodder.

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          Sceptical Sam

          starting with the Treasury Secretary who had signed off on the huge changes required to enable the Socialist catastrophe.

          Who then went on to destroy the National Australia Bank.

          As arrogant and egotistical a piece of work you’ll ever see. Comrades in arms.

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    kevin a

    Revealed: The Australian airport owned by CHINA – and a secretive firm paid just $1 for a 100-YEAR lease on the land
    China Southern Airlines could soon own all of the Merredin Aerodrome in WA
    It paid West Australian government $1 for a 100-year lease in 1993 to train pilots
    Aviation veteran Dick Smith said it was ‘outrageous’ China decided who landed
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5213765/China-owns-Australian-airport-paying-1-lease.html

    https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/china-almost-has-australia-surrounded-but-its-debt/3533300/
    The new runway of Velana International Airport in Male, Maldives
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-31/foreign-investor-plan-to-create-rural-chinatown-in-geraldton/8537422

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      Deplorable Lord Kek

      “It paid West Australian government $1 for a 100-year lease in 1993”

      a deal that would never be given to a private individual.

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    Zigmaster

    The Chinese have screwed the world for its benefit. On this as well as global warming. Having released this disease to the rest of the world they are now in a strong position to accumulate distressed assets globally for a fraction of fair value. With global warming they have succoured the useful idiots who signed up to the Paris agreement to allow them to increase emissions whilst everyone else is doing everything to stuff up their economies in a futile attempt to change the weather. Meanwhile they remain the biggest supplier of solar panels and windmills for the rest of the world. The potential benefit to China in terms of what’s happened with the virus makes it plausible that they have engineered the situation deliberately to their advantage even if the original source of the outbreak was from the wet markets in Wuhan

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      John PAK

      Gold price: AU$85,000 per kg. China reportedly owns over 20,000 tonnes. ” He who has the gold makes the rules”.

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    toorightmate

    The Greenland Group has been very active in Western Countries for about 10 weeks, using the Chinese folk in those countries to purchase for Wuhan (and Chinese warehouses). But it would be wrong to pass comment on this.
    Africa, South Sea Islands, PNG, Central Asia, Pakistan, Italy – the reality of Chinese activities and aims is beating any conspiracy theories people may have dreamed of.

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    tonyb

    It is high time that Govts in the WEST realised that China are the worlds last colonial power with belt and road, soft loans, acquisition of assets and that everything is dedicated to the furtherment of the Chinese State.

    I hope that Boris realises how much of the public are dead against the huwaei involvement in our 5G network. The other 4 eyes are much more important than saving a few billion on the cost, or having something a couple of months more advanced than can be obtained elsewhere.

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      Andrew McRae

      The explanation is Boris has become a zombie, he has been infected!
      Yes, really.
      British PM Boris Johnson tests positive for coronavirus
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zoID-za5Rc

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        OriginalSteve

        From a Christian perspective, its possible while one country has deliberately released this bug, God may be now using it to remove much evil from the planet.

        In the wash up, those who are in positions of power, if removed by this bug, may prove to be un-Godly from a biblical morals point of view. From a Christian perspective, God has the power to stand up or remove any ruler of a country he sees fit, as He has absolute sovereignty.

        We shall see. In some ways, it may yet to be a form of judgement. I get that some people arent religious and dont look at it that way, who will see different mechanisms at work, but lets see how it all goes.

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        sophocles

        Got too close to Charles?

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          Sceptical Sam

          I wouldn’t be surprised if they weren’t both false positives.

          As long as the hoi polloi never found out. The politics would suit them both very nicely.

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          toorightmate

          The homeopaths will save him!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Chad

    Sounds to me like a very smart bit of quick thinking on the part of the chinese..
    ..and some very opportunistic profit taking by the AUSTRALIAN companies that sold them the products !

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      Slithers

      The paper trail of those sale would make interesting reading.
      Board members, ties to our politicians…..
      Will be very unlikely to get published though.

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        PeterS

        What’s the point? Look what happened after the banking Royal Commission. Nothing but a slap on the wrist. Some execs should have been put in prison for at least a short term.

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    steve

    “If journalists had asked better questions of our politicians, we might end up with better politicians:”

    To be honest, I would be satisfied with better journalists

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      Richard Ilfeld

      For months, the White House Press Corps has been bleating because the daily press briefings were not being held.
      Now they are bleating because they are being held (ad the President is effective).
      The biggest problem, sad to say, may be journalism schools.
      One goes to J school, and then gets a job in a local market based more on looks and on camera presentation than
      anything else. The bar being fairly low. one gets promoted by not drooling and being politically orthodox.

      The days when an aspiring journalist actually covers and writes stories on the way up, waiting for an “Our Lady of Angels”
      event to get a big break are long gone. mea culpa; I was a broadcaster five decades ago and a professor of same a bit thereafter.
      I will say that the need to bring back, process, and edit film and write a voice-over might have led to a tiny bit more perspective
      than today’s ubiquitous live shot, which allows the presenters to open their mouths without engaging their brain. Also, there may still
      have been the residual notion of a journalistic ethic around reporting facts, long since dead and buried.

      And that’s the way it is…..

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        OriginalSteve

        The Left has deliverately undermined the education system.

        We need to remove any lecturer or teacher who has radical left wing views, so kids at least have some chance to hear a balanced view, rather than Marxist drivel and up the workers agro and climate bed wetting….

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    kevin a

    Repatriation from China?
    If china had damaged the Reef we would be asking for Repatriation.
    “Great Video”
    China essentially treats Australia ‘like a shopping mall’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnaFiLYdopc

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    Rocket Rod

    Realistically nothing new.
    Daigou here have been shipping baby formula etc etc back to China for YEARS now.
    Similarly they tried to buy Kidman station for their food security.
    The Chinese certainly know their own history and look after themselves, and in fairness so do we with our own families.
    It’s dog eat dog when shtf.
    So what do do?
    Prohibit the export of critical resources in time of crisis?
    Discrimination and perceived racism in the name of self preservation?
    Hell yeah.

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      AP

      They don’t need Kidman, they have the entire Ord Valley thanks to our corrupt pollies.

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        AP

        https://www.farmlandgrab.org/post/view/21302

        CHINESE property development conglomerate Shanghai Zhongfu has won the sole right to develop 15,200ha of high-value irrigated agricultural land in northern Australia after the state and federal governments spent $510 million of taxpayer funds building road, irrigation, port and local community infrastructure to support the deal.
        The little-known Chinese private company has been handed all available land in the second stage expansion of the Ord irrigation scheme in Western Australia’s Kimberley region for a peppercorn rent, on the condition it is cleared, developed, farmed and a state-of-the-art export sugar mill built.

        It’s not like the state will get much benefit from this; the sugar mill will be all Chinese-owned and so will all the profits,

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          Kalm Keith

          Once upon a time in Australia we had government.

          What we have now is a poorly disguised skimming machine.

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            PeterS

            Yes. I wonder if PM Morrison is still eager to reduce our emissions? If he is then he has to go.

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          Chris

          The operative word here is ‘rent’ and rental agreements can be undone. Unlike Cubbie station it has not been sold.

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    Richard Ilfeld

    On her way to work one morning
    Down the path along side the lake
    A tender hearted woman saw a poor half frozen snake
    His pretty colored skin had been all frosted with the dew
    “Poor thing,” she cried, “I’ll take you in and I’ll take care of you”
    “Take me in tender woman
    Take me in, for heaven’s sake
    Take me in, tender woman,” sighed the snake

    She wrapped him up all cozy in a comforter of silk
    And laid him by her fireside with some honey and some milk
    She hurried home from work that night and soon as she arrived
    She found that pretty snake she’d taken to had been revived
    “Take me in, tender woman
    Take me in, for heaven’s sake
    Take me in, tender woman,” sighed the snake

    She clutched him to her bosom, “You’re so beautiful,” she cried
    “But if I hadn’t brought you in by now you might have died”
    She stroked his pretty skin again and kissed and held him tight
    Instead of saying thanks, the snake gave her a vicious bite
    “Take me in, tender woman
    Take me in, for heaven’s sake
    Take me in, tender woman,” sighed the snake
    “I saved you,” cried the woman
    “And you’ve bitten me, but why?
    You know your bite is poisonous and now I’m going to die”
    “Oh shut up, silly woman,” said the reptile with a grin
    “You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in
    “Take me in, tender woman
    Take me in, for heaven’s sake
    Take me in, tender woman,” sighed the snake

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    Slithers

    There is a simple solution.
    Nationalize those two companies and freeze all their assets.
    Prevent ANY of their employees from leaving Australia.
    Harsh perhaps but it is past time to act in self defense.

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      Chad

      But what about those AUSTRALIAN companies that profiteered by selling the products to the Chinese ??
      They had a choice, sell and profit or hold for patriotic use.
      Who is most at fault ..?
      ..if anyone ??

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    Sceptical Sam

    Hands up who thinks China has our best interests at heart.

    Not me.

    It looks like the Chinese Communist Party had a very well thought out strategy in relation to its roll-out of this infection.

    Perhaps it goes something like this:

    1. Get the infection going in China (life is cheap in China), ostensibly emanating from a “wet market” down the road from a Chinese Communist Party controlled bio-weapon facility;

    2. Ensure Chinese travellers infected with the virus move to all countries and spread the virus by stealth before the Wuhan affects become apparent to the world;

    3. Suppress information on the Wuhan disaster. Deny, arrest, kill those who seek to raise the alarm to ensure maximum time for the international spread of the virus.

    4. Enlist the CCP controlled United Nations agencies such as the WHO, to attack any nation looking to close borders with China and delay any declaration of pandemic to facilitate the spread of the virus;

    5. Enlist China’s commercial agents in all western countries where there are PPEs and medications freely available, to remove those by purchase and redirection to China, to ensure those countries defences against the virus are weakened;

    6. Having weakened countries defences, ramp up the spread of the virus by sending more Chinese tourists and infected agents to western nations (Italy, Spain, USA) that have a high level of nation to nation interchange;

    7. Ensure allies (Iran, North Korea) are also infected as part of the Chinese Communist Party’s plausible denial strategy;

    8. Increase the level of propaganda and shift the responsibility for the virus to the enemy. As part of this program, enlist the CCP’s lobbyists in the west to invoke the use of the term “racist” as a tactic to constrain public discourse and alarm;

    9. Close down the export of pharmaceuticals and inputs to the external manufacture of pharmaceuticals to all nations to further weaken the west ability to respond quickly;

    10. Under the guise of humanitarian concern export Chinese made test kits, ventilators and other equipment that has been sabotaged to ensure they are unserviceable.

    Now, from this point, there are a number of possible scenarios as to what might be the next set of steps in this asymmetric Chinese strategy. We will see it roll out, as the west is distracted by its response to the pandemic.

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      You clearly have no idea Sam.

      Irrespective of COVID/Corona, the same Chinese people would have travelled the globe through November December 2019 and January February 2020 and Chinese activists would have continued pressing for wet markets to be banned in those locations viewed by educated Chinese people as primitive at best. The cruel and filthy practice in some regions of China is a matter of shame for most Chinese people.

      A more likely cause of the rapid spread in Italy for you…

      The first cases were detected in Italy on January 29 when two Chinese tourists fell ill in Rome. They had flown into Milan on a tour on January 23.

      The diagnoses prompted Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte to immediately announce a ban on flights from China – the first country to do so – and declare a six-month state of emergency.

      But there was squeamishness from some quarters about the tough action, and the Mayor of Florence, Dario Nardella, launched a “hug a Chinese’’ day on February 1, calling for “unity in the common battle’’ and decrying racism against Chinese people in Italy.

      The move prompted Italians to hug Chinese people in the northern Italian city and post images on social media.

      Italy is now suffering one of the worst coronavirus tragedies on the planet, with around 80,000 infections, and 8215 people have died, giving the country a death rate of around 10 per cent. More people have died in Italy than in China.

      Make my day Sam and tell me that the CCP are paying Dyson to make 15,000 ventilators. Better still tell me that on principle you won’t purchase a made in China mask should you ever need one.

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        OriginalSteve

        Sams points still stand. Communists are ruthless, they dont appear to a form of morality like we do. The State is thier god.

        And some bleeding heart italians have possibly accelerated the problem….

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          Steve I’m pleased you used the word appear because the Chinese people do have a form of morality like we do. It’s been instilled over thousands of years and is encapsulated in the teachings of Lao-Tzu and other philosophers such as Confucius who followed him. These two are regarded as the two most influential spiritual leaders native to China.

          Sun Tzu, a Chinese general, military strategist, writer and philosopher is credited as the author of The Art of War, an influential work of military strategy that has affected both Western and East Asian philosophy. In many ways the West is indebted to Sun Tzu, a fact that escapes those who glibly spout generalities about communists.

          Confusing the CCP with Chinese people is the big mistake that many make. This reflects the lack of knowledge rather than the lack of intelligence.

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            Sceptical Sam

            This is not about the Chinese people. They’re the victims.

            It’s about the immoral totalitarian Chinese Communist Party and its agents in the west who happily do its bidding.

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        Sceptical Sam

        Didn’t you know that Boris placed the order for the Dyson production? Why didn’t he order from the Chinese?

        Oh, and by the way, China will pay for them, one way or the other.

        While in the United States, Ford has announced that it’s working with 3M and GE Healthcare to produce medical equipment including ventilators and protective gear. GM and Tesla have also pledged to make ventilators.Nobody in the west (other than those under the thrall of the CCP) trust the Chinese Government or the quality of Chinese manufactures.

        Chinese masks, are probably a bit like their test-kits. I’ll have Australian made thank you.

        “As Spain’s death toll hit 4,089, the Chinese embassy in Madrid said on Thursday (26 March) that the Spanish government had bought a batch of faulty COVID-19 testing kits from an unauthorised Chinese company. EURACTIV’s partner EFE reports.”

        As a famous Welshwoman once giggled: “Well he would (say that) wouldn’t he”.

        Nothing in China is “Unauthorised”.

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          OK Sam, patronise me if you will.

          Of course I knew that Boris placed the order and also that companies in the US are rushing to make up the 27,000 shortfall in ventilators for New York alone (worst case scenario in two weeks time.

          We use P2 masks at work. The brand that we prefer is Promesh and they’re made in Vietnam. They are expensive, far better than the 3M P2’s and have to be ordered in advance. When I asked for three boxes of 12 back in late January from our PPE supplier we were told that the wholesalers had none left.

          Tell me that you would go without if the only available masks were made in China.

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            Sceptical Sam

            When I asked for three boxes of 12 back in late January from our PPE supplier we were told that the wholesalers had none left.

            Cleaned out by the CCP’s agents no doubt. That makes you another of their victims.

            Tell me that you would go without if the only available masks were made in China.

            But they’re not. So it’s a hypothetical.

            The general public have been without masks in Australia since the middle of February. The advice from government is that they’re unnecessary for the general public. They’re only needed for medicos and their staff working with the infected on a day-to-day basis. Believe that if you will.

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              The advice from government is that they’re unnecessary for the general public. They’re only needed for medicos and their staff working with the infected on a day-to-day basis.

              That advice was given at a time when we had zero community transmission and even now with limited community transmission I still believe it.

              I have a box of P2 masks at home, less the ones I’ve given to friends and colleagues. At work I’ve made sure there are enough for our workforce and their wives/husbands. These masks were in stock from 2019 and we still have a handful left.

              Lucky we are that P2 masks are part of our PPE.

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            williamx

            Treeman

            your quote from your post above:

            “When I asked for three boxes of 12 back in late January from our PPE supplier we were told that the wholesalers had none left.”

            end quote.

            That’s probably because they were part of the consignment bought here in this country and possibly sent to another country.

            You later quote:

            “Tell me that you would go without if the only available masks were made in China.”

            end quote.

            In answer. I would probably go without a P2 mask manufactured by China. That country may restrict supply to other countries. The population is 6 billion or so outside of their borders, so those masks will be scarce.

            I hope I haven’t been patronising or rac*st.

            Stay well Treeman.

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              williamx
              You say

              That’s probably because they were part of the consignment bought here in this country and possibly sent to another country.

              The truth is that the Australian Government had started stockpiling P2 masks as well as surgical masks.

              https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-29/coronavirus-covid19-causes-national-medical-stockpile-to-open/12003980

              Another fact is that China is today distributing PPE across the world because the pandemic is under control and they have an excess of the products. There is an analysis Why China’s government is offering COVID-19 aid relief to other countries which is quite scathing in places from people with axes to grind. A moderate view of their motives is this:

              But Chu Yin, a professor of public administration at the University of International Relations in Beijing, said China lags the US and Europe in its understanding of public diplomacy and has always struggled to convert humanitarian aid into diplomatic returns.
              “If people really expect a big boost of China’s influence through the aid, it will be difficult,” he said. “In my opinion, let’s just take the aid as doing a good deed, and it would help China’s economy if the epidemic situation in these countries is contained.”

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    Slithers

    There is of course another possibility.
    The Elitist’s (They sure know who they are!) may have been the dumb fools who let this happen and will soon be desperate to cover their involvement.
    The tax havens will have lots of money hidden in plain sight.
    The rub will be that all that money is in US$ or perhaps Euros or even Gold.
    What use/value will all those riches have when the Yuan rules the worlds economy?

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      OriginalSteve

      Its entirely possible the currently smug elite may not be so smug if they get ill and die from this bug…..

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    Phil O'Sophical

    In January this year, the UK government classified COVID-19 as a High Consequence Infectious Disease (HCID.) The highest level for a biohazard disease. But you wouldn’t have known it from their actions, or lack of. Nor was it reported that I am aware of.

    Stranger still, on March 19th, yep seven whole days ago, they rescinded that classification.
    COVID-19, measured against the UK’s HCID criteria, is no longer a High Consequence Infectious Disease.
    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/uk-government-downgrade-coronavirus-as-no-longer-highly-dangerous/

    Again, not reported or reacted to.

    So if it is not the threat they originally thought, why the hell are we still treating it like return of the Black Death, which killed 2/3rds of Europe’s population over some seven years?

    So is it a plannedemic, or are the Globalist left simply using it as a beneficial crisis, as they always do, to further their ends of World Government? Gordon Brown, as much as admitted it, but luckily for us he has, in his eagerness, rather jumped the gun, let the cat out, etc.

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      OriginalSteve

      Golly..its almost like they wanted it to spread….

      You cant have a global govt to fix a global problem if you dont have a global problem in the first place.

      In this case, someone has “flown” a virus into a population like persons unknown flew objects into buildings some years ago…..

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    observa

    Save our doctors and nurses, sell the ABC and use the money to buy masks and gloves.

    Why? Seems 30% of medical and care sector workers in general will soon be home looking after the kids. That will help solve the protective gear problem.

    How many working families will be in the same boat after this is all over? Keep printing the money for them all Jo as we’ve discovered the Magic Pudding. Hey why don’t we all stay home and help ourselves to the Magic Pudding and stay safe from the virus? The Coles and Woollies workers want some of what we’re having too. You know it makes sense.

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      Environment Skeptic

      As for the “protective gear problem” least it should be good corona gear with silicone valves and a positive seal…not those paper mask, tissue paper suit things being flouted…sheesh!, we had the same debacle about quality protective gear back in 2011 Fukushima crisis.

      The question of paper masks vs silicone masks with a positive seal etc…

      It is possibly here that The president from geographical location known as Russia set some kind of qualitative precedent more recently. The quality of protective garment and respiratory gear was clearly of a good enough quality to re-use/launder/multiple use. Happy bright colours made the protective gear pleasing to the eye.

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      Kalm Keith

      Observa,

      You have expressed my thoughts perfectly.

      Love the cute “Magic Pudding” metaphor because it helps say stuff that might be otherwise seen as critical.

      True: we must fight this thing but the simplistic idea that the current shambolic shutdown is being done in a sensible, considered, humane way is simplistic.

      Yes, in a sense we must shut down but I get the feeling that those pumping for this are probably insulated from the consequences.

      In the real world checkout staff look anxious, others who have lost jobs, had businesses ripped from under after 10 years of effort are in a state of frustration and anxiety that politicians have not taken into account.

      This poorly executed shutdown worries me.

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        OriginalSteve

        Uncertainty is also a tool used to control a population with fear.

        If people are confident, they think clearly.

        Morrison needs to purge the N W O supporters out of his govt or they may destroy him….currently the N W O agenda is running, it needs to be severely curtailed.

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    Curious George

    “There are only 3,000 Covid cases here, we have barely begun, yet we’re already running out of protective gear.”
    Isn’t it the first 3,000 people who don’t need protection?

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    ren

    March 27 (GMT)
    alert 5909 new cases and 919 new deaths in Italy. Highest number of new deaths since the beginning of the epidemic in Italy [source] [video]. 46 doctors have died to date (with 4 additional deaths today). 6414 health workers have tested positive.

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    Travis T. Jones

    Don’t panic!
    Our swamp dwelling elitist politicians wisely invested our money in sunbeam and seabreeze catchers to supposedly prevent bad weather, bring unicorns back from the edge of extinction and save the world or something.

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      Kalm Keith

      And just to keep us all relaxed and happy in these troubling times the government is arranging to have a Magic Pudding delivered to every home in the country.

      Who needs business to keep us going when quantitative easing is there for the taking.

      Relax.

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      PeterS

      Well why stop there? PM Morrison I presume still wants to reduce our emissions. All that will do now is get us closer to a crash and burn scenario now that we are so vulnerable and close to being on our knees. Here is his opportunity to turn things around and start getting us out of the Paris Agreement and stop the Wizard of Oz act. If he doesn’t he then must be pushed out by his own party and replaced with someone with the spine to act according on the climate change nonsense. Now that we are spending big time to try and keep our economy afloat (not enough IMHO compared to what Trump is doing) how about several extra billion to build some new coal fired power stations? Drop the stupid submarine contract and actually move that money to build many more coal fired power stations to generate cheap power and allow new industries to open up and compete with China rather than letting China slowly but surely take over us. Come on LNP. Make Australia great again. Otherwise go to hell.

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      sophocles

      bring unicorns back from the edge of extinction

      but what about refreshing the supplies of pixie dust?
      That’s most important — got to keep the Tooth Fairies and the Easter Bunnies healthy.

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    Greenland Media Statement:

    MEDIA STATEMENT
    Friday, 27 March 2020

    Greenland Australia would like to address the recent media coverage regarding the company’s shipment of medical supplies to China.

    Greenland Australia can confirm that in late January and early February 2020, the company organised shipments of medical supplies – in the form of 10,000 surgical masks, 68,000 disposable gloves, 400 protective goggles, 30,000 medical protective gowns, 1,800 forehead thermometers and 300 shoe covers – to the Greenland Group global head office in Shanghai as a donation to provide support at the frontline of the virus.

    These supplies were dispatched to help contain the rapidly-developing coronavirus (COVID-19) crisis in China, which at the time, was the epicentre of the outbreak. In this sense, Greenland Australia’s efforts corresponded with those of many other companies and individuals around the world organising similar donations.

    Greenland Australia’s parent company, Greenland Group, felt compelled, as a major international company, to assist in efforts to mitigate the spread of the virus, which had caused a shortage of crucial medical supplies in China. As such, Greenland Group initiated a drive for medical supplies, and provided accommodation services for front-line medical staff in China via the company’s hotel group.

    Greenland Australia supported Greenland Group’s initiative by arranging for medical supplies to be dispatched to China. Again, it should be noted that this proactive response occurred in late January and early February, at a time when the worldwide spread of the virus, and all response efforts, were focussed on China.

    However, Greenland Australia also recognises that Australian people are currently at risk with the more recent and ongoing domestic spread of COVID-19, so the company is focussed on helping people in this country through a similar effort to that undertaken for China.

    Greenland Australia continues to take this pandemic very seriously, and in conjunction with Greenland Group, we will continue to do everything we can to assist.

    – ENDS –

    By late January cases of COVID-19 were already appearing in Australia and Italy. but in China it was peaking so you can’t really blame them for sourcing masks etc wherever they could be found. If the shoe was on the other foot we would have done exactly the same!

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      beowulf

      No we wouldn’t. Don’t be an apologist for this plague of locusts who have zero allegiance to their adopted country and who should be treated accordingly. Only one nationality surreptitiously strips bare entire countries — not only ours — of their essential medical supplies. We don’t and wouldn’t. There is no concept of the “fair go” in China.

      As to the argument put forward by some here that greedy Aussie suppliers wanted to make a quick buck: if one person orders 5 million masks in a single order that would sound the alarm, but a series of larger than normal purchases from multiple warehouses by apparent multiple buyers would not be evident to any one supplier. They are not a centralised cartel comparing sales figures at 5 minute intervals.

      Add to that the average Ozzie didn’t know there WAS a problem, because astoundingly, we don’t scour WeChat for our daily news. Our shelves were stripped bare by the locusts before we had any idea that China was concealing an epidemic from the world.

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        Annie

        There was still no bog roll in our local supermarket on Thursday this week, nor hand sanitiser nor bleach. It was stripped bare, along with Aldi, Coles and Woolworth’s, at the long weekend and subsequent one.
        No eggs either…did someone tell the chooks to stop laying?

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        I’m no apologist for anyone and you clearly have no friends from China or any understanding of Chinese people. Chinese people say that true character reveals itself when people are under pressure. The reverse also applies. Get yourself a copy of the Tao Te Ching and reconsider labelling people as locusts.

        Your suggestion that scouring WeChat for daily news is ridiculous. My Chinese friends use it like Skype to talk to each other and they get their daily news from South China Morning Post, Caixin Global or China Daily.

        I’ve been posting at this site for many years and I’ve never seen so much hatred here.

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          beowulf

          You most definitely are acting like an apologist even if you can’t see it. I don’t care what ethnicity the people are who stripped our shelves — they could be Calathumpians or Martians for all I care — but anyone who acts in the outrageous way that these companies and the Daigou did, will be judged according to their actions.

          The run on the shelves was initiated by one group, then the panic set in once folks saw bare shelves. For those who did strip the shelves initially, the term “locust” is completely apt. It isn’t a slur against any ethnic group, it’s descriptive of the actions of the particular group who stripped the shelves.

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            Treeman

            acting like an apologist even if you can’t see it.

            How patronising! So you’re a psychologist as well?

            How do you know the run on the shelves was initiated by one group? The footage I saw at the beginning has grey haired westerners, Pacific Islanders and Aussies fighting in the aisles. At worst some blurred footage of people being bussed around ostensibly to buy toilet paper and the ethnicity of those on board has not been proven.

            What has been proven is the aussie who was charged for stealing toilet paper. Was he a locust also?

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              Treeman

              Furthermore, the supermarkets were caught out with their supply chains and curfew restrictions to B Double deliveries. There was always plenty of toilet paper in the warehouses.

              Most Chinese Australians I know have networks which can and are providing a service to supply such items as flour, rice, yeast and the like and guess what it’s being rationed.

              The blaming of a minority group for stripping shelves is what is shameful.

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    On another tangent a startup business here in Australia has been trying to source ethanol for making sanitiser to cover an order for Australian hospitals and are being gouged at every turn. Be very careful about apportioning blame when Australians are acting shamefully themselves.

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      beowulf

      And to counter that, several Aussie distilleries (including Shane Warne’s) have converted their production lines to produce pure alcohol for hospital sanitizers AT COST — no profit. Universities are also producing alcohol hand sanitizers in their chemistry departments AT COST. I believe Sydney Uni is supplying at least one major hospital.

      You have a low opinion of your fellow Aussies. Every traumatic event brings out the best and the worst — always has, always will.

      And this start-up company you refer to — they were suddenly going into business out of pure altruism were they? Or were they seeking to take advantage of a dire situation and whinging when their essential ingredient was already fully spoken for by existing producers? I think the latter.

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        Neither. They were already supplying the healthcare sector with a number of new hi tech lines. The move to produce and supply sanitisers was a response to demand from clients. The essential ingredient is available across Australia but those wholesalers with quantity are gouging.

        The only correct statement from you beowulf is

        Every traumatic event brings out the best and the worst — always has, always will.

        The only people for whom I have a low opinion are those who make outlandish statements without substance and those fools who stripped the shelves of supermarkets. Sure some may have been Daigou but the great majority were Aussies and some have even been charged with stealing toilet paper!

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          beowulf

          You made a broad statement about Australians acting shamefully. Your statement deserved to be rebutted. I pointed out that a number of our distilleries and Unis are manufacturing and providing alcohol for sanitizers for hospitals at cost.

          Here’s one for instance:
          https://www.foxsports.com/cricket/story/shane-warne-turns-gin-distillery-over-to-hand-sanitizer-032020
          “Warne said the company would turn its production from gin to alcohol hand rubs which would be provided to two hospitals in the western state.”

          And I know for a fact that Sydney Uni chemistry department is doing likewise.

          And your company wasn’t a start-up after all, as you initially stated.

          Clearly a lot of Australians are not acting shamefully.

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            Treeman

            The startup in question has just these last few months begun production at scale.

            I made no such broad statement about Australians. Here it is for consideration…

            Be very careful about apportioning blame when Australians are acting shamefully themselves.

            Interpret or believe what you will, it won’t make or break my day.

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    Another Ian

    Suprised? Have a look at history –

    Just old fashioned border raids on a bigger scale

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    sophocles

    sell the ABC and use the money to buy masks and gloves.

    And if the Greenland Group is the only bidder?

    Just imagine the R-s—covering propaganda …

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    Ross

    From a Tweet by Andrew Neil (not sure who he is)

    ” Something the stats aren’t telling us is,

    How many have died, FROM the virus? and

    How many have died, WITH the virus? “

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    Ronald Bruce

    Confiscate all China goverment entities assets in Australia, then close all china goverment companies.

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      Kalm Keith

      Then tell them that the Australian government is going to keep 51% of each asset and return the remainder if.

      If they identify the Australian who “fast tracked” their acquisition.

      KK

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    dinn, rob

    we have only 100,000 or so infections here; wanna be our ally?
    https://aumladder.blogspot.com/2020/03/indirect-light-on-sars-2-cov.html

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    Destroyer D69

    Head Honcho of Real Estate Institute of NSW stated that there has been an increase in sight unseen purchases from China…

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    Contemptible Blackguard

    Only problem with selling the ABC: No buyers! What business would want to take a risk on such a dysfunctional cabal who think they are too smart for the rest of the country and talk down to anyone who disagrees with them. Just stop funding the mob and leave them to themselves and their lackies. Maybe then they might find out what its like to live in the real world instead of pontificating about the rest of us who keep the place ticking over.

    Reparations from the CCP must be on the top of the agenda for the misery and suffering wrought upon the world. Have you ever noticed that no one wants to deal in Renminbi/Yuan and it is never mentioned on the tele. I wonder why – draw your own conclusions. But they were running out of US$, so now with this debacle the rate of loss of Dollars will accelerate and then it will get interesting. The CCP borrow from the World bank and use that to fund the One Belt One Road. What a shame the old 100 names of China cannot toss their so called leaders out?

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    Another Ian

    GOOD NEWS

    This is GAME CHANGER. Abbott to market, starting next week, a fast point-of-care #coronavirus test, delivering positive results in 5min and negative results in 13min. Will deliver 50K tests/day to start. Kudos to Abbott and FDA’s Jeff Shuren and team at CDRH who are in the fight.

    — Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD) March 28, 2020″

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/03/27/wuhan-flu-14/

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    max

    Preppers : help you prepare for emergencies or disasters before they happen.

    “The lives of our doctors and nurses are at risk because bureaucrats were too slow to see the obvious, blindly unaware of foreign allegiances,”

    Nothing new here, socialism does not work.

    Who is responsible for your health?
not government

    Who is responsible to be ready for something like this?
    not government


    We all know about pandemics and do we teach that to protect ourselves we need to have emergency savings and emergency health kit supply for 1,2,3,8.. weeks?

    Do not blame freedom and free market — we do not have that since 1914, what we have is nanny state which teaches do not think, do not prepare, obey state and state is going to look after you from cradle to grave.

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    DonS

    Hi Jo

    I see in the news that the communist government in China has put quarantine restrictions on Chinese people returning to the country. Apparently the CCP propaganda message that China was virus free has started a flood of people returning to the country to visit relatives etc. bringing the virus back into China and possibly starting a second wave of infections.

    Ofcaurse the first wave of infections in China hasn’t gone away despite what the CCP propaganda says but it is interesting to see how propaganda campaigns can backfire.

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    It's all BS

    It is time that Australian jurisdictions start the compulsary acquisition of any asset owned by a Chinese company or Chinese individuals under Torrens Title. This will cost us a lot of money but the CCP must understand the rule of law. Further, this outbreak will teach the CCP something else. The power of a free market economy in a liberal democracy to redistribute resources far more efficiently and effectively than a command economy ever can.
    We can do something ourselves. Stop buying Chinese when there is an alternative. Buy the more expensive, locally made good. Buy the inferior good from another country. Start our own embargo. Whether this was deliberate or just negligence, the CCP must learn. We can teach them.

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      It's all BS

      I have no beef with ordinary Chinese citizens. I do with the deplorable, self righteous bunch of bullying authoritarian oxygen thiefs that is the CCP. Sure, communists died fighting the Japanese but no where near the levels of the Nationalists but the CCP claim all the credit. They claim all the credit for their “Socialism with Chinese characteristics” when it was pure free market forces that have given China its wealth. They have earnt nothing but claim they have done everything. Give them nothing. Make the CCP pay.

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    Rudi K

    My wife tried to purchase some personal protective masks via Amazon in January. They were “made in China” – no other sources being available. Two months later the masks had still not arrived in the UK and we learned that they had been stopped by Chinese customs and had never left China.

    There are clear double standards here, since it is clear from Jo’s post that other countries have not blocked exports of medical equipment to China.

    The moral of the story is that we trade with China at our own risk.

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    max

    Wondering Why There’s Such A Shortage Of Masks? Ask The FDA!

    Because they are regulated medical devices & new versions require FDA approval which can take months to obtain.

    Let’s say that you’re a garment manufacturer in NYC, but, of course, retail sales are down, so you’re looking for another revenue stream. Why not make surgical masks, keeping your doors open, employees employed, and saving lives? It’s a win-win-win!

    But how long do you think it would take you to jump through these hurdles, and do you think someone without an army of regulatory compliance officers would be reasonably able to do so at all?

    To start, you must:

    do a compositional side-by-side analysis of your mask vs all other masks currently sold. Hire a few materials scientists, okay.

    measure “tensile strength” & “impact resistance.” Hire the Mythbusters and have them whack it with a hammer.

    perform detailed “risk analysis,” for fluid/bacteria resistance and “flammability.” Hmmm, better open a branch office for all those extra materials scientists and medical researchers. This is multiple major studies (though a Boring Company flamethrower might work in a pinch.)

    but wait, don’t forget that masks touch skin! What if it gives you a rash!!! Okay, fine, we’ll fill out the “standard ISO-10993,” yeah, you know, the one for “Biological Evaluation of Medical Devices Part 1: Evaluation and Testing.” Sprinkle in a couple more clinicians.

    I could go on and on. There is no world in which any company not already deeply invested in manufacturing surgical masks could jump through these hurdles in time to mitigate the desperate shortage of PPE for medical professionals on the COVID-19 front lines. None.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/health/wondering-why-theres-such-shortage-masks-ask-fda

    world war 1 brought western civilisation socialism and loss of freedom.
    “Your Papers, Please!”

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