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Go on then.
Gloom and doom all around us.
How’s about a little brightness here.
Let’s do something different.
Use this Thread to link to a clip of music, and it really doesn’t need to be a favourite, just something which might cheer us up.
I’ll kick it off with an obscure ABBA song, ‘Move On’. It was never released as a Single and I have only heard it on the radio once, and it made me sit right up and listen, and then go looking for it. It’s just a wonderful song really.
Link to video clip
Tony.
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In the midst of this time at home, the YouTube algorithms threw me to this. I’ve since listened to a lot of this channel and it’s awesome đ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eubrxz0bBCY
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There are some gems on Youtube , some you just stumple over not really being previously interested or aware of the topic
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OK, here ya go. I made this last week to win a dare and did. I am not a singer, but was a winner! đ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQovhbyZdDk
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Good call, Tony!
How about this uplifting tearjerker.
Israel Kamakawiwo’ole – ‘Over The Rainbow’ & ‘What A Wonderful World’ Medley
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GD: Very nice!
My favorite (non-Judy Garland) version of Over the Rainbow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rd8VktT8xY
and her version of What a Wonderful World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPAGH0AT-os
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Thanks, RicDre, for reminding me of Eva Cassidy’s ‘Over The Rainbow’.
In the early 2000’s I was working as a guitarist for Australian singer Jane Scali’s cabaret show. One day she sent me the mp3 of Eva’s version of ‘Over The Rainbow’ and said we’d be playing that on Saturday night.
So I listened and thought, yeah, no problem, solo guitar backing a singer. The musical term is colla voce ‘with the voice’.
Come the soundcheck, we ran the tune, and Jane shrieked at me. “Wrong! That’s not it!”
Then I realised my mistake. I was playing with the voice and not like Eva had played her guitar.
The brilliance of Eva’s track is that she is playing strict tempo guitar while singing her expressive interpretation of ‘Over The Rainbow’.
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Living here in Northern Ohio, US, I had never hear a song sung by Jane Scali, so I did a little bit of searching on the Internet for a song sung by her. I couldn’t find very much but I did find a partial clip of her singing Total Eclipse of the Heart and it was a very nice rendition of that song.
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GD I’m thinking this is what people are feeling during the lock down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4Mc-NYPHaQ
This is what I think while delivering mail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPf_PJlJsJQ
Hope you’re coping a bit better mate, catch up soon.
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Thanks, Yonniestone, I’m feeling a lot better now.
As for your suggestion of what people are feeling, I like the sentiment but not the costumes.
For those of us in Victoriastan under Commissar Andrews, I’d suggest this song.
I was going to post the Angels’ version, but then I found the original version by the Animals.
Even though the Angels’ version sounds great, and is enhanced with twenty years’ improved recording technology, the raw spirit and emotion in the Animals’ version Is the best.
There must have been something in the water in the sixties in Britain. So many bands made up of young blokes who made so much music that sixty years later, we still love and listen to.
The Beatles
The Rollingstones
The Animals
and the beat goes on …
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For a song (Somewhere Over The Rainbow) done so many times and by so many artists, most of them are good really. However, there’s good and there’s unbelievably good.
In late 1964 and into early 1965, at the height of the rock era, the rock band Billy Thorpe And The Aztecs put that song on the flip side of their new Single. Radio Stations rolled the record over and started to play that flip side, and ‘Over The Rainbow’ became a National Top Five hit for the band, and in some local areas it went to Number One. Knowing Billy Thorpe, it’s just almost incredible to hear him sing this song, and when you play it, go all the way through, just to hear that last note. Amazing.
Link to Billy Thorpe and Over The Rainbow
Tony.
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TonyfromOz:
I had not heard Over the Rainbow sung by Billy Thorpe before, it’s a very nice version of the song, thanks for the link to the song. After the link you supplied finished playing, another version by Billy Thorpe started playing and I really like that version also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62gip2biWs
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Her vocal musicality in this version of “Over the Rainbow”
Is just extraordinary…
And wonderful guitar as well..
love it…
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Thanks Ric…One of my favorite singers..
And here in Oz, it’s Autumn
So this one by Eva
Feels just right…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXBNlApwh0c
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One of my favourites.
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Izzy.
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Great song Tony…..have never heard this before ….appreciated.:)
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The intro is the best part of this.
From Dylan Thomas, under milk wood.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D4iDiwuvj0A
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Scrap
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Wrong one.
This
https://youtu.be/orHtAhU8qP0
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Not a Pink fan but;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OpQFFLBMEPI
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Didn’t know Justin Timberlake could write and sing this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRlTdpa9KE
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Sorry Tony.
At our wedding the program said Hymn Number 701.
Everyone opened up expect to find a full song but found that they knew it well;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e0TInLOJuUM
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Other nice wedding songs:
There is love:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=peter+paul+and+mary+wedding+song&form=ANNNB1&refig=4656acc56dfe4309b49b6d2f6155aa13&sp=1&qs=AS&pq=peter+paul+and+mary+wedd&sk=PRES1&sc=7-24&cvid=4656acc56dfe4309b49b6d2f6155aa13
We’ve Only Just Begun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoPuwKt1rbE
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Brilliant piece from Paul.
And Karen, taken too soon.
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Jools Holland had a late night music show â Laterâ on the BBC some years ago, that showcased both top established stars and new performaes.
This USA group , âLuciusâ made a unique instrumental and vocal performance that has stuck in my head ever since
https://youtu.be/8EW1O3Zny00
Meanwhile.. the AGW team are practicing their excuses for no change in the increasing CO2 levels…
https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/index.html#co2change
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Chad, GHEE?
Global Heating Emergency Experiment (eek!).
In these days of experimental vaccines and expensive medicines, how about a little pure, natural, solar Vitamin D.
John Martyn, Sunshine’s Better.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AQLgkRr9ahO
(Have manually typed above address into this silly tablet: if it’s wrong or goes nowhere, look up John Martyn + Sunshine’s Better + Talvin Singh remix)
Another lovely morning in the warm sun here; ’tis a different story down south with all the mountains coated in white thanks to the Great Australian Blizzard of 2020… ghee!
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Well , i dont know how , but that linked to a different track than i intended,
This is the standout for me..
https://youtu.be/JeWZmpCxjIw
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Madagascar using CVO herbal tea for CoVid:
https://www.thesouthafrican.com/lifestyle/what-is-in-madagascar-cure-disease-herbal-tea-senegal-order/
It contains artemesia annua. They don’t mention what other herbs. Artemisia annua extract has been found effective against SARS:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7114104/?report=reader
It’s usually used for malaria parasites but is broadly antiviral. I’ve been letting it seed itself and spread in my garden.
Madagascar has 149 cases, 66% recovered with no deaths:
https://covid19stats.com/Madagascar
Of course dumb*rs*s in the MSM have ridiculed the CVO tea.
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Sweet Child O’ Mine – Shred Guitar version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gpIxto5MOY
And an awesome Heart cover (Barracuda)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ecFdRhwPc
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Hi disorganise you seem to like guitar.
How about this young lady from Melbourne, her name is Tash Sultana and she has been the playing guitar since she was three.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn8phH0k5HI
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PS, it’s her own song.
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Old Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hziqpg7HeBY&list=RDHziqpg7HeBY&start_radio=1&t=25
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An unforgettable performance..
https://youtu.be/i8rVI7AMKiY
And This always raises a smile..
https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
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On A roll now..
Chech out the quality og this remastered video from 40+ years ago..
Top rock band , in its prime.
https://youtu.be/Gu9HhYv0C7E
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The preacher likes the cold?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-aK6JnyFmk&list=PLhRm9uwA59i89hNA6CHYqfpEOD4z7Z5v_
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Here is Michelle’s version of how that song was created (From SongFacts):
Here another nice Tune from the Moma’s and the Popa’s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUr5_QVPCAI
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Sang this a lot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx47qrH1GRs&list=PLoFQzfvcvGcVHBAv0PkN17iLA_n0aQNme&index=6
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Here’s one from one of my favorite singers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPmbT5XC-q0
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And for something a little different:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPK7ZF6jfJE
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This is one of my favorite Simon and Garfunkel songs an I particularly love this version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G8RzLpWy4M
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And how about a little Classical & Rock Fusion:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=nights+in+white+satin+at+red+rocks&view=detail&mid=0E8C0DD37E95A949A6A90E8C0DD37E95A949A6A9&FORM=VIRE0&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3dnights%2bin%2bwhite%2bsatin%2bat%2bred%2brocks%26form%3dANNNB1%26refig%3d43101290f9824992868d18eb8df0f844%26sp%3d-1%26pq%3dnights%2bin%2bwhite%2bsatin%2bat%2bred%2brocks%26sc%3d2-34%26qs%3dn%26sk%3d%26cvid%3d43101290f9824992868d18eb8df0f844
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Ferguson resigns after visiting married lover
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8289921/Scientist-advice-led-lockdown-QUITS-breaking-restrictions-meet-married-lover.html
Hopeful someone better at modelling will take his place
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Sounds similar to our Minister of Health – you know, the bloke telling New Zealanders to stay at home and shelter in place – who was busted for driving up-country to go mountain biking, then taking his family out of the city for a drive to the beach, THEN moving house, all during the State of Emergency Panic Level 4.
Under normal circumstances, Empress Jacindarella said, she would’ve fired him, but… but… she was being ‘kind’, or sumpfink.
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My favorite is CNN’s Chris Cuomo staging a phony exit from his basement quarantine when he had in fact broken the quarantine earlier on Easter when he and his family went out to visit a new house he is having built possibly infecting his wife who would later test positive for the coronavirus.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/04/21/nolte-cnn-stages-chris-cuomos-phony-exit-from-basement-quarantine/
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I read somewhere he had already had this disease
So he thought he was immune…
Perhaps he wanted to share it round
With married lover and her family ?
What some folks will do for a bit of sex !
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It gets worse. Apparently Professor Ferguson had a positive test for coronavirus. The story did not say that he had been cleared. It my be that he has infected Mrs Staart also, spreading the disease far and wide.
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And then there’s Kerry Stokes who escaped hotel quarantine by opting to lockdown in his mansion then nicked across to Canberra and back; I guess he’s of that elite class which does as it likes.
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He was given permission by the Health Dept WA.
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Don’t forget
“King of Thailand self-isolates from coronavirus by hiring out entire luxury German hotel for him and his entourage including a harem of 20 concubines
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8164535/King-Thailand-self-isolates-coronavirus-German-hotel-harem-20-concubines.html
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What makes this song great?
Episode 81: Stevie Wonder, “Superstition”.
Rick Beato deconstructs the song – hear things that will amaze-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7d7A5Tvn4
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It could be a very long time before the numbers can be used for any meaningful analysis. Just in from the USA State of Virginia:
https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/01/virginia-is-seeing-jump-covid-testing/
Some relatives of mine living in Virginia and in hospital have had several tests for CV-19 (so far none positive) but it’s not unusual for positives to be re-tested periodically as their symptoms fade.
It’s difficult to believe that the reason for this change is political.
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Upbeat, as requested đ
Jesse Cook, Brio : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKbO51WujAc
Jesse Cook, Come What May: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwQYKAfmpnU
Roy Eldridge, Wabash Stomp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_PXRV9mmDM
Benny Goodman, Sing Sing Sing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mJ4dpNal_k
Mika Agematsu, Kuuso Sanpodo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNlnd4b8UOs
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Hi Lance, think you might like this.
Ginga Rodgers and Fred Astaire dancing to Jackie Wilson … ( your love keeps lifting me) higher and higher.
Not sure what they were originally dancing to in this clip but it goes perfectly with this Jackie Wilson song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXkfhqvO44
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Good stuff, Rex. Clip says it is Rita Hayworth.
Another excellent clip/synch to Uptown Funk (bruno mars) : Splicing some 50 movies into one video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1F0lBnsnkE
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Oops. Sorry about that, yes your right it does say Rita Hayworth what was I thinking.
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Both Ginger and Rita were quite the lookers. No doubt at all. đ
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Interesting things about hurricanes here:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/05/05/climate-goalpost-migration-if-you-cant-prove-more-hurricanes-say-its-making-them-relocate/
Read my comments đ
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Thanks, but I’d like to read it here;
http://joannenova.com.au/2020/05/tuesday-open-thread-13/#comment-2323989
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The bushfire royal commission should find the troof.
‘A group of senior Australian scientists have warned in an international journal that logging native forests makes fire more severe and is likely to have exacerbated the countryâs catastrophic summer bushfires.
‘In a comment piece published in the journal Nature Ecology and Evolution, the scientists call for a clearer discussion about how land management and forestry practices contribute to fire risk.’
Guardian
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Yes I read that headline.
I thought; how is it possible for these apparently intelligent people to get this so wrong! They have inverted the truth.
Logged coops create fire breaks. Logging tracks make good access for fire fighting crews. Somehow the opposite of what scientist turkeys have opined.
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A good summary Peter.
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I heard one of the “scientists ” talking about the “science” that went along with the ridiculous claims he was making and next caller was someone from the forestry industry and said this report was labeled an opinion piece and had no relevance.
Some of the claims made by this obviously biased greenie scientist were laughable and stood out more like propaganda than factual .
Logging a burnt out area made it more fireprone , Logging any forest makes it more fireprone etc etc .
Logging bad , tree hugging good and the cherry picking of fire history in Victoriastan was SOP for the green movement.
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Sad that so many here talk only of modern music and song, when by far the best was created masterfully before year 1900.
Try some opera like Nabucco by Verdi. Some orchestral by Beethoven like one of his 9 symphonies, with the final movement of the 9th having choral, regarded by many as the best music ever composed.
If we were talking painting, I would also prefer Old Masters like Rembrandt, to moderns like Warhol with his cans of soup.
The contrast of old and new, in music and art, is not slender. It is pronounced and enjoyable.
If it was climate research equivalents, we can enjoy classic Lamb more than modern pop-sci Mann. Geoff S
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“Sad that so many here talk only of modern music and song…”
I love Classical music. The main reason I have a subscription to SiriusXM Satellite radio is so that can listen to Symphony Hall channel 76 which plays classical music without commercials. Its great on long drive as you don’t have to worry about changing channels every couple of hours (although I have heard it said that listening to Baroque Music while driving will cause you to drive too fast).
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Geoff,
Even though I came to my appreciation of music (just like nearly everyone else did) around the age of 12/13 about the time I started High School, and that was I suppose the Golden Years, the early 1960s when so much music came out of the UK at a bewildering speed, as each week, there was a plethora of new songs to like, I found that I liked music across virtually all the genres, except I still think Rap is missing the ‘C’.
I have a few classical records, and there’s a lot of classical music I do like.
A favourite is from Dmitri Shostakovich and his 1955 Gadfly Suite, and this is the ‘Romance’ theme.
Before hearing this, I was never really keen on the violin. This is just so beautiful.
Romance from The Gadfly Suite
Tony.
Postscript – And even when it comes to rap, I do like the song that crossed rap into the mainstream, Rapture from Blondie.
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You might like; Kol Nidrie by Max Bruch OPus 47
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Kol+Nidrei%2c+Op.+47&&view=detail&mid=36A2B9EA93F8A33B029A36A2B9EA93F8A33B029A&&FORM=VDRVRV
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Geoff,. Music and its appreciation is all about emotions , people , and memories associated with the particular tunes.
Many refer to certain music as âThe Story of their lifeâ because if brings back an overwhelming rush of memories.
For many it is classics, others Rock, Folk or Musical Theatre .
Its not about taste or education,..its just about life and experience
Great music is very personal and different for each individual, and i have learned there is little to be gained by exposing others to your own personal favourites Even if they âlikeâ it, it will not mean the same to them as it does to you
This Jckson Brown track takes me back to long hot road trips and warm , drunken evenings in California music bars.in the â70s…like no number of photos, or movies ever could. !
https://youtu.be/8I5vJnW-aW4
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Yes. Yes. Yes.
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The 1960s classic Hollywood film The Graduate, once famous for a single word of elder advice to a young man…now recast today 1840s pre music mad Europe because the rising middle class want not just new sports but new music too, âOne word: Schubert [lieder, or art song].â
I apologise to be so esoteric. But lockdown has had me dipping into the two volumes of Franz Liszt Letters. He became the rock Star of music during the mid to later 19th century, he toured everywhere, often constantly, opined liberally about every known kind of music, and corresponded with people low and high.
What a Mensch. And Liszt helped popularise Franz Schubert, who said of himself that he was born to be a composing machine, dies younger than Mozart in obscurity, yet wrote more and arguably better than popular Wunderkind, Mozart! Liszt championed the early romanticism of Schubert, as well as his lyrical melodicism.
Hell of a time in music history, 1840s to 1890. And Liszt wrote many, many transcriptions for piano of Bach and Wagner pieces, three albums worth of which you may listen to, for free, at YouTube.
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Compound in licorice extract has potential to treat coronavirus, Chinese study finds.
‘Liquiritin found to significantly inhibit rapid replication of the new virus in monkey cells, according to researchers. They used artificial intelligence for initial study of the compound, which is used in traditional Chinese medicine.’
SCMP
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This young lady from the UK is worth listening to –Inaya Folarin Iman. Her talk is part of a longer GWPF video. She is introduced at 23.00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tb5JuObzJY&feature=youtu.be&t=1398
Her talk goes for about 15 minutes.
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Yes Ross. Lots to think about there.
“The re-conceptualization of freedom”
Thanks.
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Model panic for sure:
Unsuitable for ‘human life to flourish’: Up to 3B will live in extreme heat by 2070, study warns
https://www.yahoo.com/news/unsuitable-human-life-flourish-3b-190011473.html
USA Today is a trusted source, but they here publish pure speculation as accepted fact. Note the “fact stating” headline.
The question is how to change how they report this stuff? We now have data about children being terrorized by climate change fears. Perhaps suing for an injunction against panic mongering?
David
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The covid19 pandemic demonstrates how quick humans are to change altered circumstances.
The USAToday article left out that where one lives is also a lifestyle choice. see quote below. Consider the Innuit and those who inhabit deserts.
Am not going to insist that humans live in oppressively hot or cold environments but we have been doing so for a very long time. Wih technology, it is easier than ever
From the NYT version of this story
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/04/climate/heat-temperatures-climate-change.html?referringSource=articleShare
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Its One Rule for Them!
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/05/05/professor-lockdown-quits-after-breaking-own-rules-to-meet-lover/
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“USA Today is a trusted source…”
Trusted by whom? It prints that sort of drivel all the time. It rightfully earned the name McNews. It was often given away for free by hotels, rent-a-car businesses and long-term airport parking businesses and I often wondered if that was because they had a hard time getting people to pay for a copy of USA Today.
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Suppose one hundred people mingle in an area where CV-19 is prevalent meaning 100 are exposed. Twenty contract CV-19 while eighty do not. Of the twenty that contract the virus, sixteen show little or no symptoms. The remaining four have treatable symptoms and one dies.
From the literature, essentially all respiratory viruses have similar patterns.
Why?
You read about all sorts of reasons from broadly the generic speculative (viral load, genetics, etc.) to specific minutia (vitamin D deficiency, obesity, etc.). This video (starting at 04:54) interview with Dr. Aseem Malhotra, Brit cardiologist who points to those with metabolic syndrome having the highest risk of death from CV-19.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODmcIIDSpi0
Obesity, type 2 diabetes, degraded immune systems, high chronic inflammation, cardio vascular disease, dementia – all are the hallmarks of metabolic syndrome.
And he states in 21 days you can completely reverse it and dramatically reduce your risk of dying from CV-19. What I like about it is that it’s free and just about everyone can do it.
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Music is one way to take the pressure off; having another perspective may also do the same trick.
From the Lancet, end of 2017.
“”According to new estimates published today, between 291,000 and 646,000 people worldwide die from seasonal influenza-related respiratory illnesses each year, higher than a previous estimate of 250,000 to 500,000 and based on a robust, multinational survey. “”
Deaths in this situation are never “Good” but just knowing that we have “been here before” offers a sense that if the world didn’t collapse then, it won’t now.
That’s Mortality.
The other CV19 issues of transmissability and remnant permanent damage to survivors that Jo has clearly outlined are of great concern.
KK
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True, I’m really missing Argentine Tango,
The music and the dance
Meeting friends there..
But soon I hope we here in SA
Will have that part of our lives back..
14 days of zero & counting…
đ
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“From the literature, essentially all respiratory viruses have similar patterns.”
How does anyone know ?
This disease has been around for 4-5 months
The problem is that this CCP Corona virus causes a new disease
Which researchers and patients and the rest of us
Are all finding out about now.
New insights almost every few days…
Usually I like Malhotra.. And agree with him.
But here he is jumping the gun far too early…
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You-all might have seen this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q1I44l_kGg
THE TRUTH WAITS FOR NO-ONE – Naomi Seibt
It needs to be spread far and wide
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For those interested in geology (and climate) looking for a casual edu-tangent.
Nick Zentner, a US geologist/professor at Central Washington University has a couple of new videos/lectures on the topic of climate history.
Ice Age Climate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=301cuOz1MHo
Volcanoes & Climate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66bz9bENwZk
He is streaming from lockdown, low budget and he can say whatever he wants.
I prefer his polished content(earlier videos) but he never presented climate until he started streaming from his house/yard.
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Australian Health Department Blunders.
The following is a partial list”
1. Ruby Princess passengers allowed to disembark, despite reports of illness on board and the previous recent experience of the Diamond Princess cruise liner. The harbour master was so concerned that he offered to stop the ship but Health Dept said No. Health Dept tries to blame the ships doctor.
2. Outbreak of Covid19 in Northern Tasmania hospitals. The medical staff were blamed but the outbreak has now been linked to two passengers from the Ruby Princess, who flew home and were not quarantined or tested.
3. Outbreak in a Victorian Meatworks. The index case was sick for 3 weeks before anyone was tested at the meatworks and then only when two more meat workers became sick.
4. Victorian music teacher was sick for three weeks but was refused a test because of strict criteria. Schools were ordered to reopen and then he got a test after the reopening and a Victorian primary school was immediately shut again.
5. Poor supervision of Nursing Homes. The Newmarch nursing home in NSDW is now associated with 56 cases and 19 deaths.
6. A health care worker at the Launceston Hospital working in the Covid ward has tested positive two weeks after becoming sick and isolating.
7. Victoria records 19 new cases and NSW 9 new cases in the past 24 hours
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Yes, item 3 is likely to create deepening embarrassment for the Andrews government which continues to maintain Chinese style secrecy as if a manual had arrived with the signing of the Belt and Road MOU last year.
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A curiosity mentioned several times before.
The ventilation in nursing homes.
Is it extracted immediately after entry to each room?
Or is it “recirculated”.
KK
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Each ‘ward’ ( main area ) has the same air con system.
To reduce electricity costs…
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I’m guessing no HEPA filtering?
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Great list, Peter. Letâs wonder if weâll learn, and how Oz opens up differently? Over in New Zealand, the epidemiologist Micheal Baker at Otago University envisions at least cloth masks for any close activity under Level 2 p…and beyond:
Source https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/05/coronavirus-epidemiologist-urges-government-to-make-wearing-masks-in-public-compulsory-at-alert-level-2.html
Will the public accept this as necessary? Will the sorting of different and more or less transmissible dominant strains of the virus permit flexibility on this nagging, noisome protection?
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Where there be secrecy myth and in the case of the CV19, unknowns, yr myth abounds. Agree with Ben Shapiro,
re the plan. https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1257650073996951553 Goal of flattening the wire was to avoid possible swamping of the health system, Mission accomplished. Waiting for vaccines is kinda’ like waiting for Godot.
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“waiting for Godot” indeed đ
From “Waiting For Godot”
“Waiting for Godot Quotes:
ââLet’s go.” “We can’t.” “Why not?” “We’re waiting for Godot.â
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India plans mass evacuation.
https://www.sbs.com.au/language/english/want-to-return-to-india-here-s-everything-you-need-to-know-about-india-s-mega-evacuation-plan
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200 + Indians stranded in Australia request help to go home.
I suspect that there are far more Indians here on temporary visas
Who do not want to go home.
For whatever reasons.
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More on HCQ from WattsUpWithThat article “The Many Effects of Hydroxychloroquine against COVIUD-19” and, imho, very important facts:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/05/05/many-effects-of-hydroxychloroquine-against-covid-19/
The combo (below) works in several ways.
HCQ = hydroxychloroquind
Zn = Zinc
AZ = Azithromycin
Point summary:
1. start HCQ combo (zinc, AZ (Azithromycin) as early as possible
2. HCQ needs to accumulate
3. suppresses SARS-CoV-2 spike (ACE2 interaction) used to enter cells
4. Zinc prevents viruses from multiplying in a cell
5. Zinc, by itself, cannot cross cell membranes but with HCQ is a Zinc ionophore (carries things into a cell)
6. no clinical reports of any combo of HCQ other than HCQ-Zn-Az
7. main cause of death from COVID-19 is a cytokinetic storm (huge excessive immune response)
8. HCQ is a mild immunosuppressant used against diseases like lupus and rheumatoid arthritis
9. HCQ decreases the excessive immune response and can do so at any stage of COVID-19
10. HCQ was noted for both it’s antiviral and immunomodulatory effects since 2003.
11. HCQ combo are being used in clinical (treatment) centers all over the world.
Facts not stated in the article:
A. Malarial treatment using quinine started in 1799 and given to Brit soldiers in Africa dervied from the cinchona
B. FDA approval given in 1955.
C. WHO estimated in 2018 over 228 million cases of malaria with HCQ as the primary treatment meaning millions of doses administered yearly.
D. HCQ side effects are well known as described at the Mayo Clinic url https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/hydroxychloroquine-oral-route/side-effects/drg-20064216
E. Azithromycin was discovered in 1980 and approved for use in 1988 and also has well known list of side effects with over 12 million prescriptions in the US per year.
F. Zinc is simply an element and is taken by millions and has known toxicity at specific levels.
g. a layman reading of the side effects (long term usages, etc.) don’t appear to have any life threatening results that a treating MD would not recognize immediately.
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Question:
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Given the thousands of patients treated and being treated with HCQ comb, why does CDC (Fauci, et al) why have they (as a panel of experts) withdrawn guidelines and actually denigrate it’s use. The reason given/hinted at is lack of “randomized double blind clinical trials” thus it’s “dangerous”.
Yet the clinicians reported thousands of cases that are far beyond any clinical trial population size conceivable. And the treatment saves lives.
What gives?
An over abundance of caution?
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The Guardian links criticism of epidemiologist Neil Ferguson to Climategate
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??? .. what does that quote have to do with Ferguson ?
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The climate gate emails did reveal misconduct, to say the least. As for the virus panic, see this
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/05/06/brutal-takedown-of-fergusons-model/
We need to stop these computer based panics. See my https://www.cfact.org/2020/04/27/tale-of-two-panics-covid-climate/.b
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CLINTEL says âDonât fight nature, but adapt to itâ
By David Wojick
https://www.cfact.org/2020/05/06/clintel-says-dont-fight-nature-but-adapt-to-it/
Here is the beginning of the article:
Over at Climate Depot, Marc Morano has been collecting foolish alarmist calls for using the economic crisis to further their goofy green deals. https://www.climatedepot.com/
CLINTEL has issued a counter call, asking government to quit trying to stop naturally occurring events, like the emergence of a new virus, and climate change, especially so-called green deals.
The format is a letter that will be sent to parliaments around the world, beginning with the Netherlands where CLINTEL is headquartered. The lead author of the letter is Professor Guus Berkhout, CLINTELâs president. See https://clintel.org.
Professor Berkhout puts it this way: âCLINTEL gives members of parliament a shot in the arm and offers them a spot on the horizon to get the economy back on its feet without utopian experiments.â
The letter is titled âDonât fight nature, but adapt to itâ and the first paragraph is this:
âAfter lifting the COVID-19 lockdowns, national parliaments must oppose the impracticable green agendas of supranational organizations to construct a utopian Earth. Instead of spending trillions of dollars on fighting the unpredictable changes caused by natural variability (âautonomous changesâ), parliaments should focus on adapting to those changes. Dear members of parliament, with all due respect, do not fight against climate change and virus outbreaks, but adapt to the consequences. The world must move from top-down mitigation to bottom-up adaptation.â
Note that this does not mean do not fight the spread of new viruses. On the contrary the idea is to adapt to their existence by being prepared for them. The same is true for climate change, extreme events, sea level rise, etc., no matter how these things are caused.
According to CLINTEL the primary obstacle to efficient adaptation is the pernicious influence of supranational organizations, wielding computer models and calling for unworkable technological fixes. Here is how the second paragraph describes this unhealthy political engineering:
âBelieving computer models is believing the makers
Decisions about the comings and goings of society are increasingly taken by poorly informed politicians who have a rock-solid faith in the outcome of computer models and immature technologies. The belief that people can solve all problems with supercomputers â the ideology of constructing a utopian Earth â has grown strongly in recent years. By linking computer-controlled policies to supranational governance, experiments are started to engineer a âperfectâ society in which idealists believe all current global problems can be solved.
But the reality is very different. The climate debate in recent years and the coronavirus chaos of today show that the prophesied blessings of a politically engineered world do not exist. We are collectively being pushed into the wrong direction. National parliaments have become puppets of the megalomaniacal supranational organizations, as created by the UN and the EU.â
The rest of the CLINTEL open letter to parliaments is included, plus some observations on my part.
Please share this.
David
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Will spread it around, David. )
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Another epidemiological/observational study that points to those having high glucose having several times the death rates that those without high glucose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVe-NyTFKgg
And, if one believes Russian Times, yet another breakthrough with antibodies. This time the Germans:
https://www.rt.com/news/487880-german-scientists-coronavirus-antibody-treatment/
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This should go to Ye Banks,
A civilisation ” never to return “?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eHMjPr4Jiow
KK
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The intro is interesting and the song doesn’t start until 8 minute mark.
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