This speech is so good I listened to it at 1.0 times speed.
People may have missed this in the long proceedings at the Pennsylvania State Senate hearing on Wednesday. But no-nonsense Senator Doug Mastriano is up for this battle.
“We’re not going to let it stand”
Do elections matter? Will the media investigate the biggest scandal in modern history?
Is there a difference between US elections and ones in Belarus?
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If and when this video gets deleted, there are other copies at this spot and this one. I chose the one above because it a full screen view.
For those interested in more from Col Doug Mastriano on Election Fraud, he talks to Steve Bannon here.
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Its called leadership
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[snip — off topic – Jo]
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The clock turns slowly. People’s perception of time and history is negligible- for the ignorant majority they have no understanding how events can undermine all they have known.
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Yes ( with a great sigh), sadly Ignorant does what ignorance does. Intelligence is like Entropy – of the Universe, it DECREASES. You would wonder about the purposes of Education. Maybe like evil, it is a natural state? Things always break DOWN, nothing builds UP. But where there’s LIFE, things do GROW ( UP) ( and later die back down too to make way for further growth) and so we have to fight this stupidity. TIME to throw out the trendy lefty liberals in our education systems and ‘ Go back to basics’ – ( Pity oor Jock Minor can’t do that anymore) Let’s see more of the 3-Rs and proper BASIC Science & technology, which demonstrates the basic Laws of Life on Earth.
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Another off topic !
Trump dumped by Trump appointed judges in Pennsylvania.
More belly laughs from the vast majority of the American people.
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/judge-appointed-by-donald-trump-issues-withering-judgment-denying-his-appeal-in-election-lawsuit/news-story/2d6d11bd7ad4900f8c6fe802f2516ae9
Enjoy the pop corn !
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This is just Fake News Seedy and as I was, you will be blamed for it by commenters saying “stop Seedy’s lies”. I’m not sure some comments understand the difference between the messenger and
the author
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I’m not the messenger of this Trump disaster.
I’m just an observer
Eating my pop corn
Utterly amazed
At the nonsense happening in Trump-land
And disappointed at how low this blog has fallen
Since the heights it achieved earlier this year
On the Corona virus and Covid 19.
PS The ABC has also reported this ‘fake’ news
As well as the Australian and the Age.
So news it is !
But there are none so blind as those who do not want to see.
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Ian,
News is news.
Up to us all to interpret and decide whether it is factual.
The knee jerk labelling of everything you don’t like as ‘fake news’ is a terribly weak argument. Although the catchphrase will be long remembered as Trump’s most successful pieces of propaganda marketing.
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yes, this is far more entertaining and funny than even the most bizarre Monty Python skits.
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Hmmm…
Mouths were not made for the foot, but if you must insist.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/happening-pennsylvania-state-legislature-files-resolution-disputes-statewide-2020-election-results/
Imagine Biden loses the election and then gets tried for treason?
A belly laugh indeed.
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It does seems people are starting to get shaken into waking up.
A few years back all of this not being front page news is unthinkable.
This is a good summary of option A (civil court process), or natsec intervention option B should that not succeed:
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-11-26-situation-update-nov-26th-flynn-in-place-dod-rendition-flights.html
Interesting Gen. Flynn is quoted in saying as much.
Nothing like poetic justice there perhaps and with his old deputy the mysterious and genius Cohen-Watnick.
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Trump has the option to invoke a national defense response, complete with Special Operations Forces deployment domestically, as well as the invocation of the Insurrection Act? I better stock up on more popcorn.
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Been there.
Done that.
There was plenty left!
😀
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The below is the legality of Option B (with the operational backup).
Supreme Court Appellate Jurisdiction Over Military Court Cases
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34697.pdf
Sidney Powell I believe can operate in that environment.
The 2018 foreign interference EO gives the legislative cover this needs if the Kraken and seized servers have evidence of foreign involvement, which Powell is stating publicly and in court.
Col. Doug Mastriano is on the record just now speaking of majority senate intent to revert to Legislature appointing Electors, so win or lose the election, the plotters may be in trouble.
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Daily sitreps…
Real eye opener….very useful…emphasis on being able to verify what’s being said
https://www.brighteon.com/channels/hrreport
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Senate hearing video (fast forward past the initial test pattern)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1NqLfQaG4cg
Senate hearing transcript (in case videos disappear)
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/pennsylvania-senate-republican-lawmaker-hearing-transcript-on-2020-election
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“I don’t even know how this happened in America” – Senator Doug Mastriano
Well Doug, I’ve just got one word for you. D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T-S. They are behind everything bad in America, and have been since their inception. This guy knew the score.
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A lot of Republicans let it happen.
As Smedley Butler said, “War Is a Racket” … and that means some people do well out of it.
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Sounds like our turncoat Turnbull
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I listened to Mastriano at the beginning of the hearing yesterday. He is now clearly in possession of the facts of at least some of the fraudulent activity that happened before, during and after the election deadline. He is obviously determined to follow the evidence to its conclusion and will do what he can to make this election fair and to ensure, if possible, that this type of dishonesty never occurs again. Very impressive.
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G’day PeterP,
This story was published in the SMH Latest News at 5:54 am Sydney time.
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Court rejects Trump campaign’s Pennsylvania election case
In another setback for the Trump campaign, a federal appeals court has rejected a request to block President-elect Joe Biden from being declared the winner of the battleground state of Pennsylvania.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/court-rejects-trump-campaign-s-pennsylvania-election-case-20201127-p56ipx.html?btis
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Includes the inevitable “without evidence”.
Could be a fair report otherwise, and it’s the first I’ve seen.
Cheers
Dave B
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It’s all over the internet although I don’t think it has permeated very far into this thread as yet. This inter alia is what was reported
In rejecting Trump’s challenge the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals called any revisions “futile.” Chief Judge D. Brooks Smith and Judge Michael Chagares were on the panel with Bibas, a former University of Pennsylvania law professor.
This is what the panel stated:
“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here,” 3rd Circuit Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, wrote for the three-judge panel, all appointed by Republican presidents.
It will be interesting to see what the Supreme Court decides should an appeal be accepted by that court
https://tinyurl.com/y5ewx2le
BTW. I had nothing to do with the material on this link. Last week I posted a link the contents of which enraged one commenter who seemed to think I was personally responsible for the material presented and made the comment “stop Ian’s lies”. Perhaps that commenter is not aware of the saying “Don’t shoot the messenger”
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Justice has to be seen to be done. MSM LIES are the problem. The courts have ample proof of the fraudand MSM lies about the evidence. If the courts do the right thing Trump remains president. MSM will portray this as authoritarian abusive of power. Freedom of speech is essential but surely government should have some mechanism to enforce reporting vital facts. Perhaps front page and lead stories of advertorial. They are simple details of vote harvesting, more votes than elligible citizens, dominion, scrutineers and other indisputable evidence. Front page can be read walking past and lead stories briefly quoted on ‘music’ broadcasts. IT should be made to justify any censorship that is removing facts and I imagine their existing contracts would enable customer complaints. Trump retaining the presidency will be explosive to those who find ignorance bliss and are angered to violence to protect their stupidity.
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“MSM LIES are the problem. The courts have ample proof of the fraudand MSM lies about the evidence. If the courts do the right thing Trump remains president. ”
The courts are doing the right thing. Just because you don’t agree doesn’t ipso facto make the courts wrong
The judiciary do not base their decisions on what iis published by the media but on the material presented to them by the appellant. So far almost all of the material presented to the courts by Trump and his lawyers has been rejected, primarily due to lack of evidence. It remains to be seen, if the Supreme Court allows Trump’s appeal, its views of the material provided
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The evidence of JUDGES bing political is overwhelming. The supreme court is currently 3 Democrats and now 6 Republican apointments. Evidence shows that conservatives respect evidence and the constitution but democrat judges behave as law makers. Clearly judges decisions shoul be unanimus if they decide on evidence. This election is obviously fraudulent. We have similar problems in Australia. The Victorian Supreme court on Pell is an interntional embarassment as is Peter Ridd in Queensland. Lindy’s Azaria case shows the law can lack reason and justice. The US courts can not even count or understand basic maths if they allow more votes than citizens. Democrat judges will show their ideology surpasses evidence!
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The unanimous rejection of Trump’s submission was by three judges all of whom were appointed by Republican President .
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How can there be more votes than citizens legally?
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Judges are human and have motives. Some Republicans are in the swamp. Many people should be in jail. There are many terrified if Barr continues as AG. It seems the DoJ and FBI have many swamp dwellers.. It is not just Comey and mates! Hunter Biden’s laptop!! Perhaps the judges Ian refers to want this to go to the Federal Supreme court. The chief justice is political. I repeat how can a county have more votes than citiens? It should not even go to court! This is so obviously fraud it could be seen by an honest objective person on a dark night in a fog.
This is undermines freedom universily and must be controlled as there is no path out once these democrats close doors. Donald is enjoying his golf. These crooked people aren’t even aware of how to make their fraud feasible.
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Voting is secure?
I don’t think so.
https://youtu.be/wmoxE1sJc1c
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The ABC will still be covering the Biden presidency in 2023, failing to report Trump won and Biden has been in jail for 2 years.
It’ll also be relaying cutesy interviews with Hunter on rearing children, great hotels in China, and laptop maintenance.
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Rearing children? If they had their way they would abort all babies to help reduce the world’s population.
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No, only white babies.
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The Democrats should now be aware that bluffing, petty threats, and acting all offended will be insufficient to carry this one. Dunno what else they got … guess we will find out.
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They will blame the victim. POTUS. That’s what tyhey have done from the beginning.
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Aye , the billionaires:imagine if every £ or $ reperesens the profit from ONE “customer / follower” – just about sums up the state of the problemand the gradient of the Hill to climb – or is it the extent of the Swamp MARSH – roots deep into the Country. Drain the Springs into clean channels – the swamp will self exterminate. But there’s the ‘Rain’ aka MSM which if it is heacy enogh will cause so much flooding..
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Aye, Soldier, the bog is always refilled by the bog-awful media raining on any resistance; perpetual flow country bathed in fog where the truth can disappear in front of you and angels fear to tread.
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Trump ain’t no victim … he went up through the New York real estate scene … he knew the deal.
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What is one senator able to do? He’s one of 50 Pennsylvania state senators, where Republicans hold the majority 28 seats.
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So a majority.
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There were a large number of senators attending the meeting and a few more on zoom. They were advised that they have the power to not certify the current result and then take action to discard fraudulent votes. It appears there are some 570k mail-in votes more than sent out. That should be easy to verify.
In any event there are numerous witnesses who gave evidence that they were not given access to view detail in the vote counting venues. That makes the count invalid.
It appears people in Pennsylvania are talking to each other wondering how it is possible for Biden to win. They are taking that view up to their state officials and demanding they correct the situation.
I would be surprised if Pennsylvania does not go to Trump after listening to the hearing.
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Sure they are advised of their powers but what’s going to stop the DemonRats from making threats to them if they do give PA to Trump? I do hope that if anyone is threatened they should have the courage to launch an immediate investigation into those threats and arrest those involved. Apparently many have already been threatened in other circumstances yet nothing has been done about it. When threats are used to sway the decisions of officials then the US ceases to be a proper republic.
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I agree with you RickWill and also have a strong feeling that current result is not correct. But its been 3 weeks now and this is all still just fringe griping. I feel that if just 1 state has a major technical or legal problem that can’t be ‘thrown out’ or disregarded anymore then the whole thing (in multiple states) will start to crumble …. but I just don’t see it happening yet. At what point can a genuine legal position or threat be brought to bear on the certification of a result ??
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If you watch the latest episode of Stave Bannon’s War Room on rumble.com, you will get an assesment of the recount in Wisconsin. According to the reports coming out of that recount and identification of legal and illegal mail in ballots. the 20000 vote margin held by biden was not vaild, and trump will be in front.
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and now ‘our Sid’ has been blocked on Twitter ? Where’s the B47s? hope they have been well stored and prepared. maybe it’s the precision of the nodern tomahawk ( don’t keep up with this sort of tech) for precise incisions at the swamp. I’m going to prepare the excvator – need a BIG Graveyard for this – diesels better burnt like this that having a Pyre – NO SMELL or SMOKE and the Ashes. The waters of the great river of Life will not soothe the ashes of Hell when this is all over and done.
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Ops, sorry, pressed the wrong button.
Oh well, it doesn’t matter.
Tree huggers unite in your hate for everyone but themselves.
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A few says ago, Michael Steel, a spokesman for Dominion, appeared on Fox News answering questions about his company’s product. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSJKzhvx8nU
At one point he explains how the voting machine works: the voter chooses which candidate he prefers on a screen, the machine prints a sheet of paper with his choice(s) filled in. Here in the UK, I get a ballot form and fill it in myself. Why do Americans need to have a machine between the voter and the ballot? It introduces one more level of complexity and an opportunity for fraud.
Oh, maybe I just answered my question!
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Here in the UK, I get a ballot form and fill it in myself. – FrankH
From where I stand, it doesn’t seem they need voting machines in the UK, because most(?) of the polls there are idiots. And, correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t you vote for a political party, and then the party leaders pick their choice for PM? If both those things are true, you don’t have all that much choice to begin with, so why waste money on a machine, when they don’t need it?
If we voted for parties, and the RNC got control, they would NEVER have allowed Trump to become president.
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The question was: Why do Americans need a machine between the voter and the ballot paper? You telling me that UK’s democracy is stupid doesn’t answer the question.
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Because it appears the system may have been designed to facilitate “effective” elections.
Apparentlty D*****n offices have been shut down in Canada and elsewhere and apparently may have shared offices with Sor*s organizations…. coincidence?
The machine prints out a QR code and that is fed into the tabulator. Problem is the voter has no idea whether the QR code printed out is what they voted for. Again it appears this is by design.
Apparently the system can also change votes on the fly.
The theory I heard was they had the algorythm programmed in 2016 to flip just enough votes, but Trump polled so well it outstipped the algorythm.
This may be why they were so cranky…. allegedly…
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..but Trump polled so well it outstripped the algorithm.
Yes, this what Jo suggested a week ago. I may not have agreed then but now, it does explain all we now know.
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I also wondered about the QR code. It would be easy to show the voter’s choices in plain English while embedding totally different choces in the QR code. I haven’t come across any research on whether that was done.
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FrankH , there are two machines. The voting machines you are talking about and then there are tabulating machines which have the paper ballots fed into them. The machine scans the ballot , reads it electronically and collates the data. Both machines can be manipulated.
You should check if the UK uses a tabulating to get data off the paper ballot.
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Frank, you’re the one who brought up how you vote in the UK, as if it’s somehow better than in the US. I was just commenting on that, and why I think it’s not. I’m just saying that what you think works for you wouldn’t be any more a solution for us than it is for you, though for different reasons. We have different issues, and are both a long way from solving them. And I hope we both succeed.
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I brought up how we vote in the UK as an example of how to vote without having a machine between the voter and the ballot paper. You still haven’t told me why Americans need a machine between them and their ballot paper. As I said, it seems to me that it just introduces complexity and an opportunity for fraud.
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If we don’t have a machine between voters and the tally, that would make it all the more difficult for Dems to cheat. //:o]
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Got this from somewhere sorry if it’s a double up
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2020/11/infographic-shocking-allegations-of.html?m=1
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Sorry forgot to add first comment is telling
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Georgia is interesting because the Governor and Secretary of State, who Powell is going after, are both Republican. That may be why Trump is not party to that case.
In any event, the State is undertaking a recount. It should be better scrutinised than the initial count. A lot more focus this time around. If machines are used then they should be disconnected from the internet.
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Something is HAPPENING.
I like history, I came up thinking in modern times we had moved beyond curious hysterias of our poor less informed ancestors.
I gloried in the detached smugness of a child of the Space Age.
‘Cause Spock.
Now I find myself falling victim to the same passions of say … a Roundhead, or perhaps my own Southern ancestors. (crap, outsider again).
DJT seems to have sparked a social revolution, AND IT’S COMPLETELY BASED ON FASHION AND NOT FACT!
I’ve asked them.
They hate him for his hair and the way he talks.
That’s all they’ve got.
(and the money changers pounce)
The saddest victim for me is the language.
DIVERSITY INCLUSION iDENTITY EMPATHY Science is REAL ‘ya know GENDER isn’t IMPACTFUL ORGANCIC NATURAL (one of my favorites) EXTREME (a universal prefix for quality)
We are only doing this so you can be … SAFE
and Gaia help us …
DECARBONIZATION
(the final soultion for a problem that doesn’t exist)
DEDUMBIFACTION … can we at least try that one?
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“A second lawyer writes of his initial impression of Powell’s GA lawsuit.”
I’ve already posted the first lawyer’s impression in the last thread. Some of what I posted was snipped due to copyright issues, which was entirely my fault…
Mea culpa
Not gonna put huge blocks of texts in this one as I did the last.
But, in the early stages of this thread, I think it behooves those who care about the facts of the case to take a gander at this:
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/11/mailvox-second-opinion.html
If any wish to you can find the entire post of the first lawyer’s impressions here:
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/11/mailvox-analysis-of-powell-filing.html
Will be posting more links down the road…
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Many thanks! The first lawyer seemed to say that if there is no hard copy record of the vote each voter entered into the computer, not what the computer put out, that is a telling violation of federal election law. Powell alledges this and it sounds like it is true. Woohoo! No way to verify the vote count. Counting the ballots the computer put out does not count.
Not keeping required records is a common form of noncompliance with federal law and regulations. People would have had to mark a physical ballot as well as enter their computer vote. No surprise if that was not done.
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Ergo the election may be null and void….
Niw if the Dems can be tied to the “effort”, by default DJT becomes the winner…
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Please note the probability that any judge will overrule the “certified” vote in any state, is slim to none. Proof of illegal votes sufficient to change the state majority had to convince judges in several states to act before state certification. All within a few weeks after the election. That won’t happen.
…. the rest of my short article is here:
https://electioncircus.blogspot.com/2020/11/update-of-trump-legal-team-situation.html
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They only have to rule that the certification is improper under federal law. I do not see Federal Judges having qualms about doing this if the questions loom large.
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One of my favorite legal maxims is “Never argue substance when you can argue procedure”. The issue of certification is procedural. The Court takes no position on who won.
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Mr. Wojick:
“Democrat” judges won’t do it= they are like the Star Trek borg.
“Republican” judges won’t do it without DEFINITIVE proof that MORE than enough illegal votes changed the state results … and BRAVE enough to face leftist protests outside their home, and death threats for the next six to 12 months.
If a statistical analysis suggests only a 1 in 100 probability that an honest, huge pro-Biden vote “dump” happened in the middle of the night, a judge could see the 1, and ignore the 100.
What a judge could do, and what a judge will do, are two different things.
I rarely predict anything (until after it happens) but I can’t see a turnaround for Trump after states certify their votes.
The decades of predictions of a coming climate crisis were more than I could take. My last two predictions were in late 2016 — I said in print that Trump was not colluding with Russians, or anyone else — he is a one man band … and this year I predicted Trump would win an honest election, but the huge number of mail in ballots make fraud easy to do, and difficult to defect. I suspect there was enough fraud to change the election, but too little time for anyone to prove it.
I hope I’m wrong about that.
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Please call me David.
In many states judges are elected, but federal judges tend not to be Dems or Reps. And threatening them is a serious federal crime, calling in the FBI. Mind you my favorite legal maxim is “Litigation is a crap shoot” so I am making no predictions.
Moreover, as yesterday’s excellent legal analysis pointed out, these cases are headed for SCOTUS so it may not matter what the first verdict is. In this context it seems likely that the certifications will be halted by the Courts, pending final judgement and never mind the deadlines. Courts trump deadlines. (No pun on Trump intended but it is a fun one.)
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Looks like Twitter wasn’t happy with Doug Mastriano so they just banned him.
https://therunningmovement.com/twitter-bans-pa-state-sen-doug-mastriano-after-listening-to-on-voter-fraud/
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That will fire the PA Republican Senators up. Big tech is nuts!
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Good…being banned by Twerp is an indicator you have upset the leftist Hydra that runs the country….
Maybe for those who can, legal concealed carry could become the norm. For self defensive purposes, is it time to tool up ?
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Forbes Report Facebook Mark Zucherberg reportedly adjusted the Facebook algorithm after the Presidential Election to elevate content from publications, NYT, CNN and other non-partisan media over ‘partisan sources’ like Breitbart.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2020/11/24/report-facebook-tweaked-news-feed-after-election-day-to-elevate-established-news-outlets/?sh=6f93a55b7e48
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Head pf Smartmatic admitted in 2007 that his machines can be used to flip elections.
https://youtu.be/LFr0u-AWp2A
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Rubbish, the only claim made, by some person, was that the election was rigged. He did not say Smartmatic machines were used to change the result. As this is the level of “evidence” peddled by Republican’t Party it is no surprise that their claims have been laughed out of court 36 times so far.
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These are all essays, all very well done.
https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-coming-purge/
https://twelveround.com/blog/the-eighty-million
Below is math “hate speech”.
But, always remember that “Numbers have no mercy.”
https://www.takimag.com/article/the-numbers-dont-lie/
This last one is **VERY** interesting. Was penned 11/23 but covers a subject that, I would bet, only a handful of people know about. And is still quite pertinent to this day.
And I do mean handful.
It explains a whole lot. If you read any of these by skimming or the like, do NOT do that with this one. I cannot stress it’s importance.
https://amgreatness.com/2020/11/23/strategic-disinformation-and-the-2020-election/
That’s it for now.
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Trump said “But I think that there will be a lot of things happening between now and the 20th of January, a lot of things.”
So what is coming next? Let’s use our imaginations.
The prediction I saw is that Trump’s legal team cannot win the legal battle, even though there is unbelievable evidence of massive, organized election fraud. The political system we have, by failing spectacularly and world-wide, has produce the problem whose solution will change the world.
What the US Military did (in advance of this problem) was to come up with a system to replace traditional governments, to ‘engineer’ out the problems out of ‘government’. The reason why the US Military did that is US military works with corrupt countries; and the US Milt needed a system to replace the US government in event of say a nuclear/virus attack.
The Milt have develop a no name, system that is staffed by non-political unbiased people and that is supported by an AI to replace any traditional government. The system has been tested and it works very well. The US Milt and the Chinese Milt have the most advance AIs in the world. The US Milt AI is creative and has been very effective in problem solving. This is a perfect problem for AIs. Interesting, complicate, and real.
When you look at what the thing ‘government’ does or should do if you could suddenly change what we got to a perfect system.
In a perfect system. The government would be staffed by educated non-political people who do not have prejudices and would be rotated out of the job to stop corruption and bias.
The analysis would be real. Estimates for government projects would be realistic. The system would always find the best possible options and would select the option that is best for the most people.
Most ‘Politicians’ would not want to and would not be suited to work in an ‘engineered’ logical, no prejudices, government.
If the government system is engineered to be unbiased, the population do not need to pick the people have roles/do jobs in the ‘system’. The population need to give input on choices.
In a perfect system, one person, can change the entire course of a country by asking the right question. The system will logically never turn away breakthroughs.
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Libertarian YouTuber (also on Bitchute, Rumble and Odysee) where he prefers you watch him talks about why section 230 of the US Communications Decency Act should not be repealed but made stronger.
Note: I now try not to give links on censored, Leftist platforms of the Billionaire Socialists and their slave armies.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/kWhF7pqAAxg/
https://rumble.com/vbfxrs-trump-is-wrong-about-repealing-section-230-heres-why.html
https://odysee.com/$/download/trump-is-wrong-about-repealing-section/3a687157ab1282051c4d5b5608a01180c3e6caee
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On the subject of mail-in ballot votes. The gay marriage vote here, my kids received their ballots in the mail and just left them sitting on a table until after the vote. Neither voted. I could have taken them and voted for them. I didn’t. Just one example of the dangers of mail-in ballots.
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No you didn’t, because if you did you your kids would notice the missing ballots, and you would go to jail. So explain how it would be possible for 150k ballots in say Michigan to be filled in by the wrong person and no-one notice? It can’t happen. Thousands of voters would complain if their ballots didn’t arrive or were stolen. Alarm bells would ring. The system is far more secure than you (want to) think is possible.
With the Right, it is never about voter fraud. It is always about trying to restrict the vote to the rich, and denying the vote to the poor and minorities.
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Boo hoo.
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You don’t seem to be able to read. Their votes stayed on the table until after the election. The rest of your reply is a senseless rant.
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Well fortunately it seems there were no such misdemeanours in Wisconsin’s largest county where the recount demanded by President Donald Trump’s election campaign ended on Friday with Biden gaining votes.
After the recount in Milwaukee County, Mr Biden had a net gain of 132 votes, out of nearly 460,000 cast. Overall, Mr Biden gained 257 votes to Mr Trump’s 125. That’s a difference between count and recount of 0.08%.
After the recount ended, Milwaukee County Clerk George Christenson said: “The recount demonstrates what we already know: that elections in Milwaukee County are fair, transparent, accurate and secure.”
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Slarty,
No, the kids would not have noticed the missing ballots, as they did not intend to use them anyway. They would probably have just assumed that they had been thrown out with the rest of the rubbish. In a system with non-compulsory voting, many, MANY such ballots could be harvested without anyone becoming suspicious.
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That wasn’t a vote but a survey, the fact it was used to override a referendum should send shivers down your spine.
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1.There is No evidence of Voter Fraud.
2. There is No evidence of Widespread Voter Fraud.
3. There might be some evidence but it is not sufficient to affect the election result.
US courts do not seem to have got past #1. I find that hard to understand.
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PeterC
The people of the USA will soon see how robust the US legal system is. The Pennsylvania case is now heading to SCOTUS. If they do not uphold the Constitution, which says only the State Legislature has the right to set the rules of the election (NOT the Governor, not the state SC or the judges), then the people know the US is heading down the slippery slope, quite quickly.
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The Senate hearing in at Gettysburg may prove pivotal. It has brought the situation out into the open. Although social media is still trying to keep a cap on it – I cannot fathom their motivation. Maybe it is a strategy to get more people looking into what they are censoring. Every click counts from the advertising perspective. Most skeptics are not powder puffs posting on every activity so they are not a big users. But if they can be encouraged to visit to see what is being censored then there is another click. All clicks are good from a revenue perspective.
Georgia is doing a recount – that should highlight election anomalies. I assume it is being thoroughly scrutinised this time around. If there are no significant anomalies then that creates a dilemma as fact and allegations would appear incompatible.
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The Left have been at war with America for decades. This is the culmination of that. The media is controlled by the Billionaire Socialists and their decrees are exercised by a vast slave army of useful idiot drones who are a product of a Marxist dominated education where real history and critical thinking are no longer taught.
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It looks like all the “juicy” bits in Sidney Powell’s filing are in the attachments, as I suppose we should expect.
This very high powered cyber crime guy is totally convinced of the fraud, after doing his analysis
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/huge-sidney-powell-witness-ny-times-described-always-smartest-person-room-concludes-hundreds-thousands-votes-transferred-trump-biden-battleground-states/
“First and foremost is Dr. Navid Keshavarz-Nia, an experienced cybercrimes investigator and digital security executive, who has worked with the CIA, NSA, FBI, and U.S. military counterintelligence, as well as corporate financial giants like Deutsche Bank and Stripe.
In an affidavit filed with Powell’s complaint in a Georgia court before midnight Wednesday, Keshavarz-Nia had this bombshell assessment.
Hundreds of thousands of votes
“I conclude with high confidence that the election 2020 data were altered in all battleground states resulting in a hundreds of thousands of votes that were cast for President Trump to be transferred to Vice President Biden.”
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The really frightening thing in most Western countries is that there are more “useful idiots” than there are independent thinkers. I’m not sure it’s possible to vote ourselves out of the present situation.
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Don’t forget, this wasn’t the first highly rigged election. Trump managed to win 2016 even though it was rigged but not widely known to be so. The mid terms in 2018 were also likely rigged hence Trump’s executive order relating to foreign interference in elections. The 2020 election was certainly rigged. They knew Trump would and did win with a landslide and they had to reverse that. The Left always do “whatever it takes”, morality for them is a weakness and never a consideration.
Executive order: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/
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Magnificent speech by Doug Mastriano. Is he the next Donald Trump?
Why haven’t we got a Doug Mastiano in Australia?
Cory Berardi squibbed it, Mark Latham is taking his own good time by wasting time in state politics.
Victorian pollie Tim Smith is still wet behind the ears, although over time he could be a force to reckon with.
Georgie Crozier also from Victoria is a rational and sensible Liberal voice but is restricted by state politics.
On the Federal front? Definitely everyone’s favourite plumber, Craig Kelly, however, the only people who listen to him are skeptics and conservatives.
Also on the federal front is Matt Canavan. Like Craig Kelly, he understands the folly of the CO2 scam. Unfortunately, Craig is a Liberal and Matt is a National.
They don’t make it easy do they?
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GD. We do have an option, Riccardo Bosi. Check out is Jims & Objectives on the web page, Australiaoneparty.com.au
If Oz is to survive this party is our chance. No nonsense fighter for Aust. people’s inherent rights.lt.Colonel of SASR (RETIRED).
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Thanks, Springdam, I’ll check it out.
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Both Libls and Labls are heading us to renewables Nirvana with everlasting debt.
Never voted laba only libls twice: to get rid of laba.
Will never vote for greens, hypos, and always vote independent.
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This is a court declaration for the Georgia case that I have not seen before:
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.19.pdf
This guy is not clutching at straws. He is clear in his evidence. Hard to imagine his evidence not getting a fair hearing:
https://cybersummitusa.com/2017/06/navid-nia/
This is spine chilling in some of the implications. I get the impression that Trump is battling the global order with China a key opposition player. I wonder how many in the UN are beholding to China.
I cannot believe that Climate Change “scientists” are as dumb as their “science” indicates they are. It is hard not to see some organisation in the perpetuation of the Climate Change fraud.
The only news in legacy media in Australia are the typos in the Sidney Powell filing. The news outlets have synchronised the reporting and it is entirely focused on the typos.
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Rickwill, I think you need to look up the definition of evidence. In his affidavit he states “i conclude with high confidence” and “in my view the evidence is….” he is giving his opinion on the allegations of other people. An opinion is not evidence. He does not state the the fraud actually happened, so neatly avoids potential charges of perjury. So just one more piece of trumpery, which is why this case will lose adding the 36 existing court losses.
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The quote I selected was #17 on his list, and a conclusion of an expert. Expert opinion is evidence. If you read all his points there is fact intermingled with expert opinion; in other words evidence.
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Thanks — great comment RickWill
Especially the first link
I was looking for that yesterday
and you provided it today.
Unless you live in Australia,
where it is either yesterday,
or tomorrow. Or next week.
I can’t figure it out …
along with why Australians
eat seafood for Christmas.
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Still looking for unicorns, I see.
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No need to look.
They cart so we can use a methane detector to follow them.
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Wasn’t your major in Unicorn Husbandry?
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Even Rep judges have to follow the facts, or glaring lack of, and reject the Penn submission as having “ no merit “.
What evidence will Sidney offer ?
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His sworn affidavit (ie; can be charged of perjury if false) is part of Sidney Powell’s documents she filed on Wednesday (Thursday our time).
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I know how it happened. Many arch-conservatives in Australia won’t like me saying it, but it’s the lack of compulsory voting (or least attendance to vote) that makes this scale of election fraud possible (although, of course the Covid scare encouraging mail-in voting played its part).
That is not meant to excuse the perpetrators one iota. I hope the full force of the law catches up with all of them as it should (and they are clearly legion).
If there had been compulsory voting (again one is not actually forced to make a valid vote for any candidate at any time) Trump would have been re-elected in accordance with the wishes of the majority of American citizens.
Compulsory voting works because it largely removes many of the easy avenues for voter fraud.
Voter fraud is something I have seen personally in Australian politics, but that was within a political party, where matters are far less policed (and other parties are also prone to this).
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Voting is not the issue, it is the lamestream media brainwashing people to accept lies as truth, the unethical as ethical and ideology as fact.
Strong identification and eligibility management with chain of custody removes fraud whether compulsory or otherwise.
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I knew someone would say that. You have a perfect right to your opinion, but if you think that the behaviour of the modern hard-left-leaning media cannot be mirrored, albeit to a much lesser extent, by the modern right online, well, you’re living in fantasy land.
I cannot speak on any open public forum without being wilfully re-educated by the left (or right). Free speech is not truly free if someone cannot put forward a considered opinion without attracting replies to the negative as a matter of course. In contrast, I have a personal policy never to reply to any stand-alone comment negatively, unless it is clearly factually incorrect. Someone’s opinion is simply their right.
You are right complain about the echo-chamber of the left, yet should consider whether or not this forum should be but an echo-chamber for the right. After all, I abhor the US election fraud. I do not want a Harris or Biden Presidency. I would vote for Trump, just as I would have done four years ago. Is that not enough?
What matters is not if one learns a little left or right, but right or wrong. There is every indication that compulsory voting (attendance) reduces the possibility of electoral fraud here in Australia.
If Trump appeals to the masses, which he clearly does, what Earthly objection could you have to more real live American citizens voting rather than long-dead, illegal or fake ones. Is he not more likely to win?
Yes, there should be more checks and balances in the US electoral system, indeed, but the Republicans have themselves to blame in part for that. Don’t discount possible solutions just because they don’t fit the ruling dogma of your side.
Real political astuteness comes from recognising political dogma for what it is. Forcing people to vote is unethical. Forcing them to accept a ballot paper and think about it is not so bad and it has meant Australia, for all its mad leftists, is relatively free of electoral fraud and should remain so.
I don’t expect you to agree with that, but it would be nice if you didn’t get triggered by it and feel the need to re-educate someone who possibly has more experience in politics than you do.
Sure, reply again by calling your reply ‘debate’ but don’t kid yourself that’s what it really is. It’s a rant. If this feels like one too, well, too bad. Not handling dissenting views is what is killing the Democrats.
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I intentionally omitted the left or right division, standing for neither.
“Do not grieve the Holy Spirit, by whom you were marked with a seal for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, quarreling, and slander be put away from you, along with all hatred. And be kind to one another, compassionate, forgiving one another just as God has forgiven you in the Messiah.”
Ephesians 4:30-32
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Interesting article at Politico that explains the Michigan GOP farce.
Takeaway points:
1) Biden’s winning margin in Michigan is 15x greater than Trump’s in 2016.
2) In previous elections in Michigan it was the Republican precincts where most of the voting irregularities were (and probably still are) found.
3) In 2016 the Democrats accepted the result (despite the narrow margin) and respected the process. In 2020 most Republicans didn’t.
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There are multiple ways to catch election fixing. Logically the Plotters try to hide their tracks. The problem in the 2020 US election, is the Dems are very unpopular because they are strangely for, anti-US and anti legal immigration policies such as open borders.
The problem for the Dems is all of the US election fixers used the CIA server to determine how much cheating to do and then left emails discussing the fixing on same said server. And the same evil doers are implicated with the Chinese covid plot to incapacitate the US with covid isolation rather than use known covid treatments. The last issue is going to make the US people blame both Dems and US media and China.
Trump’s team has advantages which makes them sort of unbeatable. This is going to escalate right up to a movie script.
https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2020/11/21/trump-orders-useucom-to-seize-scytl-servers-in-germany/
President Trump’s Forces used a military unit attached to USEUCOM (United States European Command) to get a CIA computer facility to hand over evidence in Frankfurt Germany. By using this method, with U.S. law enforcement present to take custody of the evidence, that evidence is now under the control of the Department of Justice through US Attorneys. Because of the way it was obtained, it can all be used in court or other judicial proceedings.
Both the head of the CIA, Gina Haspel, and the head of the FBI, Christopher Wray were not informed of the operation taking place in advance. Both of them had been aggressively working to undermine and sabotage the Trump Administration.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/proof-fraud-republicans-won-28-29-competitive-house-seats-added-3-state-legislatures-not-lose-single-house-race-joe-biden-won/
We’ve identified over 450,000 ballots that miraculously only have a vote for Joe Biden on them and no other candidate.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/complete-list-suspected-fraud-issues-2020-election-sorted-state-recommended-actions-address/
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If that actually happened I can’t wait to see the emails!
Trump says a lot of stuff is going to come out before the 20th.
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Shorty
The voting “irregularities” found are always minor.
Because the larger frauds are rarely detected:
Illegal voters, illegal aliens voting, mail in ballots not filled in by the person they were intended for, completed ballots thrown away, or duplicate ballots printed in a local printing shop, ballots stolen from elderly nursing home patients who never requested them (someone else did), ballots sent to the wrong address, or two ballots sent to a woman — one in her maiden name, and one in her married name, etc.
You claim
“In 2016 Democrats accepted the result … ”
That is a ding-bat statement
(dingo-bat in Australia?).
Democrats, especially your beloved Shrillary Clinton, spent four years claiming “The Russians” helped Trump win in 2016, and he was NOT a legitimate president.
Their evidence of that?
None.
Even after four investigations.
So don’t tell me US Democrats “accepted” the US 2016 election results.
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presence of SARS-CoV-2 RBD-specific antibodies in blood samples Sept 2019, n. Italy, of 959 asymptomatic individuals
https://balance10.blogspot.com/2020/11/presence-of-sars-cov-2-rbd-specific.html
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cross posted at https://freedomaustralia.freeforums.net/thread/487/re-stand
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This information alone would turn the votes in each swing state if it could just be honestly considered by an honest judge.
https://youtu.be/atkp6fnwk9w
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PA won’t certify, CNN discussed trump pathway to victory, the house of cards is collapsing
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This video was done using a Diebold machine in 2014. Diebold has since been bought out by Dominion. Clearly demonstrates these tabulating machines can manipulated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t75xvZ3osFg&feature=youtu.be
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Fighting for elections in courts involves a big problem of burden of proof. Elections are supposed to end in a very short time, like 2 months to closure. Gathering evidence and then proving fraud can take more moths or a year, and may even be impossible for third party, poorer candidates, without support from some branch of the government.
So putting a classic burden of proof on the accuser here means ENABLIG FAUD via timing constraints : it would mean that the court system allows fraud to occur and is hopeless to stop it, by requiring classic procedures that take too long to stop the outcome of a fraud from taking place.
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Jo,
You should post the videos at rumble.com… it’s a free-speech site nearly identical to YouTube. You’ll likely have to get your website programmer to set it up so that Rumble links show up embedded in your pages, rather than just a link.
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Oh my gawd
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