By doing nothing (tacit endorsement perhaps) he encouraged all the perps to go and commit their crimes.
As we saw in the TX vs. PA et. al. it is very hard to convict on intent, but much easier to do so when the crime has been committed with evidence.
The election can still be addressed as discussed in the vid and by the time it ends up on floor I expect the populace will be baying for blood.
Many perps may soon be running for the door (if they are not already) to avoid the rope swing as the swamp is drained and the evil dummocrats, their commie enablers and overlords are removed from the face of the earth.
“Harris, prominent Democrats listed as ‘key contacts’ for Biden family business venture projects
“EXCLUSIVE: A list of “key domestic contacts” for a joint venture involving Jim and Hunter Biden and now-bankrupt CEFC China Energy Co. included former Vice President Joe Biden’s current running mate Sen. Kamala Harris, among other prominent Democrats, Fox News has learned.
“An email exclusively obtained by Fox News, with the subject line “Phase one domestic contacts/ projects” and dated May 15, 2017, Biden’s brother, Jim Biden, shared a list of “key domestic contacts for phase one target projects.”
“The email is unrelated to the laptop or hard drive purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden, the former vice president’s son.
“READ THE EMAIL HERE.
“The list, included Harris, D-Calif.; Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.; Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn.; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y.; New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo; New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio; former Virginia Gov. Terry McCauliffe, among others.
“It is unclear if any of the Democrats were ever contacted about the “target projects.”
Hunter was flying around in Air Force Two (not just China), complete with security detail, doing deals where 10% went to the “Big Guy”.
It’s not as if this has not been in the public domain. This from 2019:
‘Biden’s trip to China with son Hunter in 2013 comes under new scrutiny’
By Josh Lederman, Oct. 3, 2019, NBC NEWS
In 2013, I was one of four reporters who traveled aboard Air Force Two with Biden and his son to China, a visit that was sandwiched between stops in Japan and South Korea. When we got on the plane on a bright Sunday afternoon at Joint Base Andrews, the Bidens were already on board, having just flown in from a family Thanksgiving gathering in Nantucket. Biden often took family members and especially his grandchildren on his foreign trips, so their presence didn’t raise eyebrows.
What wasn’t known then was that as he accompanied his father to China, Hunter Biden was forming a Chinese private equity fund that associates said at the time was planning to raise big money, including from China. Hunter Biden has acknowledged meeting with Jonathan Li, a Chinese banker and his partner in the fund during the trip, although his spokesman says it was a social visit.
The Chinese business license that brought the new fund into existence was issued by Shanghai authorities 10 days after the trip, with Hunter Biden a member of the board.
Seeking to expand his corruption accusations beyond Ukraine, Trump has accused Hunter Biden of using his trip on Air Force Two to procure $1.5 billion from China for his fund, calling it “a horrible thing.”
>”Seeking to expand his corruption accusations beyond Ukraine”
Just to reiterate:
‘Joe Biden’s 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived’ John Solomon
Two years after leaving office, Joe Biden couldn’t resist the temptation last year to brag to an audience of foreign policy specialists about the time as vice president that he strong-armed Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor.
In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.
“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.
“Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat.
Friday night, the Supreme Court rejected Texas’s case against the disputed states for “lack of standing.” There are a lot of theories for this decision, but Dick Morris said the unsayable: The Supreme Court was intimidated by the Democrats’ promised court-packing scheme.
That facile statement is an insult to Trump supporters. “Standing” is not a complicated concept. In Whitmore v. Arkansas (1990) 495 U.S. 149, 155, the Supreme Court explained,
Unless the Supreme Court surprises me this coming week (and I really hope it does and that I am being wrong and unfair here), there’s every to believe reason that the justices are more concerned with status and safety than they are with election integrity and constitutional principles.
In the heading there is a message of hope that something good and useful can happen before January 20th to save the USA from its present path and begin a restoration of values that were once appreciated and widely held.
[Snip] Sorry KK but yes a little too OT at the top of the thread, this bit however is ok.]AD
After the electors cast their ballots today, December 14, their votes are counted and the electors sign certificates showing the results. Congress officially counts the votes in a joint session held in the House chamber on January 6, 2021, with Mr. Pence presiding. The Trump legal team had six weeks to develop a persuasive case. Not much time. They could not even convince Republican judges. It’s over. We’re stuck with Biden. And almost nothing has been accomplished to change Georgia election practices in one month, which could be the second round of bad news. Unlike a movie, sometimes the good guy loses.
The incumbent Vice President presides over the Joint Session of Congress convened on 6 January to tally the votes from the Electoral College (14 December).
If the two houses need to split in order to vote separately on one or more objections, then Mike Pence does not preside over the House of Reps.
They haven’t at this point reached the point where some claim when tyranny becomes law rebellion becomes a duty. That will happen only if Trump fails to use his last option of the Insurrection Act et al to instigate martial law, take over the MSM and social media sites, conduct trials of the traitors and conduct fresh new elections down the road. We have until Jan 20 to see if Trump pulls the trigger. If he doesn’t then the Constitutional Republic is no longer, and all hell will break loose. He is obliged under the Constitution to take all necessary measure to stop Biden from being inaugurated on Jan 20 after having such a fraudulent election. We shall see if he honours that obligation under the Constitution or not.
Pentagon building steel fan suspected of obstructing Biden’s relationship with military intelligence units
Canada home iask.ca 2020-12-05 13:56 Source: China Times Author:
CNN quoted a former senior intelligence officer familiar with transitional matters, revealing that the Trump administration is obstructing the president-elect Biden’s transition team to meet with various military units under the Pentagon. However, this report has been refuted by the US Department of Defense and emphasized that talks have been tentatively scheduled for next week.
The report pointed out that despite the delay for several weeks, Biden’s “Agency Review Team” (Agency Review Team) has successfully met with other units; only the various intelligence agencies under the Ministry of Defense, including the National Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and the State The Security Agency (NSA), the Biden team has not yet been able to meet.
Although the Ministry of National Defense denied obstructing the handover of the Biden team, senior defense officials revealed that the Ministry of National Defense had briefed the transition team on various military operations on the 4th, including high-level policies and international security affairs, but intelligence affairs had not yet been briefed.
The Washington Post broke the news that the trouble between the Biden team and the transfer office of the Department of Defense is that the latter is dominated by “Steel Fan” Battelle, and this person is the one who spreads various conspiracy theories about Biden.
‘Steel fan’ may be a reference to the Taoist demon 鐵扇公主, Princess Iron Fan. Implying that she’s someone acting behind the scenes against the “heroes” of this narrative – Biden and his CCP backers.
If Biden is to be the POTUS he has to wait until Jan 20. Until then Trump is the POTUS and that’s that. There’s a lot that can happen and most likely will happen between now and then to surprise all of us.
Read Simon’s post, make note of the word ‘next’. There is an official President Elect and it is a doddering old fool, but it is not Trump – a one term looser
Its unlikely Biden will actually be inaugurated, in fact I think Trump is giving every one an opportunity to do the right thing and do things legally, lets see what the DNI report says.
Bad stuff just keeps appearing….. word is getting out, normal social media is being bypassed and the MSM is now being iognored as people now realize it just cant be trusted any more.
“Revealed: Bill Barr directly intervened to keep the Hunter Biden probe secret before the election by warning against issuing subpoenas and asking prosecutors if their staff could be trusted
“Attorney General Bill Barr used the force of his office to instruct prosecutors investigating Hunter Biden not to take any steps that might cause the probe to be publicly revealed in the run-up to the election.
“The directive, reported in the Wall Street Journal, was in keeping with existing Justice Department policy against taking investigatory steps close to an election that might interfere with it.
“Barr and his team took steps to ‘insulate’ the investigations, according to the report, even as President Donald Trump repeatedly demanded a probe of his political rival’s son.
“The revelation, coming after Trump raged publicly against Barr for not revealing the Biden probe in the first place, is likely to worsen the president’s mood and fuel speculation about the attorney general being fired before Joe Biden enters office.
Since the Democrats have a majority in the House, the GOP can propose an “alternative slate” of Electors, however it goes nowhere on 6 January.
If the House rejects an objection (or a motion to replace the certified Electors with the GOP alternative) then even if the Senate supports it, it is decided by the slate certified by the governor (tie-breaker).
The governors in the six swing states that matter have irreversibly certified the Biden slates, and they will be the ones counted, unless something extraordinary occurs.
But it won’t even get to that – all states except WI met the “safe harbor” date (8 December), meaning Congress must accept that set of electoral votes – they have no discretion.
The “safe harbor” protection works as an incentive to the states to ensure they resolve all their disputes, recounts, and challenges in a timely manner. It works to do that.
And the Electoral College has convened and voted … if the Trump Team had / has strong evidence of fraud, they should have produced it by now. They didn’t help themselves with a breathtakingly incompetent legal team.
OK, now if people remember my comment from yesterday about why martial law / use of the miltary…..
Now you have your answer as to exactly why…..and again, I dont want any form of martial law ( becauise it can be abused ) , but it may be needed if a radical fix is needed.
State legislatures in Nevada, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona and Pennsylvania have selected republican electors to preserve cases and lawsuits of election fraud in each state. If the outstanding court cases are successfully argued the republican electors would be able to cast votes for President Donald Trump.
Trump Campaign Senior Advisor Stephen Miller explains what is happening today as each state presents and casts their votes for state electors. The only date outlined in the constitution is January 20th. As Miller outlines: “We have more than enough time to right the wrong of this fraudulent election result.”
It will be interesting to see of the claim by some that a “safe harbor” provision of the Electoral Count Act dictates changing the slate of electors after election day is a violation of federal law. If that’s the case then Biden will end up being POTUS unless Trump uses his last option under the Constitution. It’s then not even a matter of proving the election was a fraud or not. That would be nice but it takes too long. The real issue is there is so much smoke and mirrors surrounding the election process it causes enough doubt to call into question whether the election is valid or not. In that case they might as well flip a coin. So, a new election has to be conducted using the correct means such that any attempt of commit fraud on any scale is exposed easily and quickly, not months down the track. The only way to conduct a new election is for Trump to do a reset via the Insurrection Act and call in the military who will monitor the progress of the new election. That’s the only way Trump will ever be able to clean up this mess. Otherwise, he might as well throw in the towel on Jan 20 and kiss goodbye to the Constitutional Federal Republic of the US, then watch it crash and burn from afar.
I just had my account restricted on Farcebook for posting a link to the forensics audit of the Dominion voting machines in Antrim County. The results are damming, as expected.
After considerable legal filings intended to block the release of a forensic report of Antrim County Dominion vote tabulation systems, a Michigan judge has lifted a gag order allowing the plaintiff, Allied Security Operations Group, to publicly release the findings.
The results of the forensic audit [full pdf here], while limited only to the vote tabulations in Antrim county, are damning for the Michigan system of elections.
From Paragraph 23 of the report “President Obama signed Executive Order on National Critical Infrastructure on 6 January 2017.”
It goes on to say that President Trump strengthened the Executive Order.
So, it appears President Obama signed an executive order 14 days before President Trump’s inauguration. Was President Elect Trump informed of the executive order at the time of development and signature.
It was intended to enable a quick kill of Trump. In deliberate irony Trump piggy-backed on that EO two years later. Now that Barr has left the drawer with the Soetoro arraignments will be in play.
If the unthinkable happens and Biden “wins” the election he will soon be removed under the 25th Amendment (medical incompetence to do the job) or will simply resign because be is so demented he will sign any piece of paper his controllers put in front of him (whilst he retains the ability to even hold a pen).
As evil as Biden is, Harris, who is the intended President, is far worse than Biden. It would be preferable to have Biden over Harris. Although, the reality is that even if he stays as President she will be telling him what to do. At least a Biden figurehead will be better than Harris.
Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada, and Arizona Republican Electors Cast Votes for Trump Epoch Times
White House adviser Stephen Miller told Fox News on Dec. 14 that alternate groups of electors were being chosen in several states, claiming that it would lead to Trump’s reelection.
“The only date in the Constitution is Jan. 20″
MI State Police Block Republican Electors From Getting Inside Capitol Gateway Pundit
Republican electors in four states said Wednesday that they would cast their procedural votes for President Trump from the Nov. 3 elections, and Michigan sent two separate slates of electors to Capitol Hill, 16 electors for Trump and 16 electors for Democrat Joe Biden.
“It’s our duty to the people of Michigan and to the U.S. Constitution to send another slate of electors if the election is in controversy or dispute, and clearly it is,” said Meshawn Maddock, Republican at-large national elector.
Michigan state Rep. Daire Rendon said: “What it comes down to is this: have the secretary of state, director of elections, and election officials proved to you that the election had accuracy and integrity? They have not. And because of this, the election is in dispute.”
It might be true but it’s not relevant really … there is a lot of legislation in place – including how the Congress must conduct these election proceedings – that must be observed and adhered to just as much as the Constitution.
Congress can’t change the way it operates without changing the relevant laws, and the Democrats have a House majority.
Stephen Miller might well have other things on the backburner, but changing the electoral slates over to the GOP alternatives in those swing states can’t work now – it’s too late – and has been since 8 December in effect.
The problem with the US election challenge is not that a vast majority of the legal arguments lack merit. The problem is that most of the judiciary are so morally corrupt that they are willing to allow willful, substantial, obvious and ultimately election-swinging violations of the law to happen without consequence.
The US judiciary have essentially declared that vote fraud will go unpunished and therefore there’s no possibility of ever having an honest election again.
If Trump doesn’t win this, the Left will take over and it will be the end of the United States as we know it as a Constitutional Republic with representative democracy and it will become a Leftist banana republic like all the others and as Canada will soon become under Trudeau.
The thing is the constitution states the legislator decides who gets the college votes, Biden will take it SCOTUS, SCOTUS will rule based on the constitution ergo trump gets college votes
The thing is the constitution states the legislator decides who gets the college votes, Biden will take it SCOTUS, SCOTUS will rule based on the constitution ergo trump gets college votes.
I’ll disagree to an extent. While the Constitution says that “state legislatures” must determine the manner in which electors are chosen, all states have passed laws saying that the party winning the popular vote will be allocated the electoral votes.
It is also a requirement that any move to change the manner in which electors are chosen must be in place before Election Day – it is obvious that any loophole to allow modification after the votes are counted couldn’t be permitted, and it isn’t.
There is a very strong Constitutional theory that the power to open and count the votes of the presidential electors is vested exclusively in the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate is actually the Vice President of the United States – Trump’s running mate, Mike Pence.
Therefore, if this theory is true, Mike Pence can simply open the Republican certificates and toss the Democrat certificates into the trash. The Democrats could howl and shout and gnash their teeth, but they cannot count votes that Pence doesn’t open.
Unfortunately for the writer in the link, this is not true. The role of the incumbent Vice President is largely ceremonial and impartial. As it was designed to be – after all the VP might have very serious skin in the game.
Four tellers are appointed (two from the House, two from the Senate, and both parties) and the count and total the electoral votes from every state – taken alphabetically.
If there is a written objection to the electoral votes for a state (in writing, signed by at least one Rep and one Senator), then the two houses leave the Joint Session, in order to briefly discuss and vote on the objection.
There is no discussion or argument allowed in the Joint Session itself, so the incumbent VP is presiding over a largely powerless session. As it was designed to be.
Having Mike Pence open the envelopes does not give Donald Trump any advantage on 6 January.
The legacy of President Donald Trump will be measured against the diminishment of his enemies.
First — even before he was nominated — he broke the corrupt, elitist Republican Party. If you don’t think that is true, just ask yourself when was the last time you took Jeb Bush seriously.
Next, he maimed the corrupt, elitist Democratic Party, which was so fearful that it resorted to dirty tricks that would have made Dick Nixon blush. Crooked Hillary and her gang of globalists invented a plot to “vilify” Trump by linking him to a fake scandal “claiming interference by Russian security services.” Don’t take my word for it. That comes from a contemporaneous memo by Obama-era CIA Director John Brennan, and we don’t have to speculate about whether the plot came to fruition because the nation wasted more than two years and $32 million on a special-counsel probe to look into the fake allegations against Trump. Some taxpayers group really ought to send Hillary a bill.
After he took office, Trump was able to dismantle a large portion of the globalist infrastructure that had strangled much of U.S. sovereignty, like a political version of the Upside Down from “Stranger Things.” Paris climate accords? Buh-bye. Iran nuclear deal? Unh-uh. NATO allies skating on an IOU? Not gonna happen. Porous border? Build a wall. Mideast wars? Let’s try Mideast peace instead. Unfair trade deals? Return to sender. Chinese threats? Take this virus and shove it!
One of Obama’s worst advisers is resurrected for the Biden administration.
As Obama’s UN ambassador and later his national security adviser, Rice stands alone as the worst and most consistent liar this side of Hillary Clinton. In 1996 the late, great William Safire called Hillary a “congenital liar.” Rice is different. Her lies are pathological, not congenital.
One of her major whoppers was about the death of the ambassador in Benghazi.
Falsely blaming the attack on a minutes long amateur movie made by an Egyptian Coptic Christian immigrant to CA.
Put the poor guy in jail.
Excellent book and movie.
“13 Hours”
Must see presentations by Kris Paronto if YT still allows.
Perhaps the strength and integrity of those men whose truth telling is the only reason we know that Susan Rice lied on TV in the face of the American people, will guide us now.
Deep State in a gorilla suit dancing right in the middle of the court.
Trump appointed Gingrich, Thomas Carter, Thomas Stewart, Scott O’Grady, Edward Luttwak, former Rep. Randy Forbes, former Sen. Robert Smith and Charles Glazer, all of whom are close allies of the president.
Tell us Gee Aye what hope is there of America ever finding amity and concord under an administration spawned in unanswered allegations of fraudulent imposition?
I say we exhume Earl Warren to chair a commission of inquiry which can chop off all the loose threads and set the collective mind of the American public at ease.
Have you looked at the Jovah Nutton Pulitzer video where he talks of “kinematic artefacts” which can differentiate between ballots which have been marked by pen and ballots with the marks already printed? It provides the simplest path to legitimacy; I was only kidding about the grave robbing enterprise.
The Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled today that Governor Tony Evers and other state and municipal officers did not have the legal authority to expand the definition of “indefinitely confined” citizens to permit absentee voting without showing a state ID.
The ruling appears to open the door for the Trump campaign to challenge any absentee ballot cast in Wisconsin that was outside the legally defined rules to receive them. This judicial decision was reached at the same time Wisconsin legislators voted to affirm their electors. The sad irony is thick.
Main Stream Media are adopting and as a group are forcing their members to follow suit and continue a “Censorship by Silence” on those who they despise, hate and loathe and guess who that might be?
Ok, who is telling the truth ?
All MS Media are reporting that Biden has already exceeded the 270 College votes…with more to come.
Biden has run Press conference confirming that it is now a simple time and procedure matter for his Inaugeration ??
But others here still say these College votes can still be changed before Jan 6 ?
Also , how can a state Governor prevent College votes from being submitted ??? ..that sounds insane !….a single State Governor inhibiting a federal election process .?
On Stephen Miller’s main point in the Fox & Friends interview above, the three sets of “alternative electors” the Republicans named on 14 Dec will not assist Trump’s cause.
In order for these “alternative electors” in the three swing states that Trump requires to be accepted instead of the certified electors, it would require a simple majority in both houses, voting separately.
Clearly the Democrat-controlled House will not vote that way, and it is highly unlikely that the Republican-controlled Senate would support the “maverick” electoral votes either.
But if the Senate did accept the “alternative electors” then Trump still loses, because the tie-breaker is the slate certified by each state governor – and they are all the Biden voters.
Trump it seems has run out of political pathways – and also probably judicial ones as well, at this stage. Stephen Miller obviously knows all this, so what else could be cooking?
>”the tie-breaker is the slate certified by each state governor”
Not as cut-and-dried as you think according to Reuters upthread at #8.6
The Electoral Count Act, often described by academics as “unintelligible,” seems to favor the slate of electors certified by the state’s governor, according to Ned Foley, a professor at Ohio State University Moritz College of Law.
Also the ultimate tie-breaker is the Supreme Court:
Academics have sketched out several scenarios. Under one, Pence as president of the Senate could throw out both sets of a state’s electors. Another contemplates that the House of Representatives would end up choosing between Biden and Trump. There is even a scenario in which the Speaker of the House, currently Democrat Nancy Pelosi, could become acting president.
Would the U.S. Supreme Court get involved?
The Supreme Court may be called upon to interpret the Electoral College Act to break any deadlock.
I doubt it…..their track record suggests they dont seem to want to do anything, other than hide behind their protected status, and contemplate their navels !
Under one, Pence as president of the Senate could throw out both sets of a state’s electors. Another contemplates that the House of Representatives would end up choosing between Biden and Trump.
However with a House Democrat majority, any move by the Senate to object or reject a state’s electors – or even all slates – would require support from the House, which they wouldn’t get.
The relevant Act is convoluted, however any state that met the “safe harbor” date is deemed confirmed, and even if the Senate ignored that rule, the next step is – which one was certified by the state governor?
I don’t think anyone is suggesting the Supreme Court would step in and retrospectively over-ride the “safe harbor” provisions, and the finalised certification by the relevant state governor. We’ll see!
It all comes down to what Trump knows and what evidence he has to support his next move, which is the Insurrection Act et al. If he’s just bluffing then there’s nothing he really can do unless he still goes down that path and risks loosing support even from his own people if it turns out his stories about electoral interference from foreign powers were mostly fake. We know election fraud did take but we simply do not know the extent. It’s a mess that’s fore sure. Presumably Trump knows a lot more than he’s letting out at this stage. We just have to wait and see what he does. The ball is in his court, not the SCOTUS as most people think. That’s the way the Constitutional Law works as the US is a Constitutional Federal Republic with the POTUS as the supreme head of state. He just has to abide by the Constitutional Law and be able to back up his reasons. If he can’t then he should just walk away. If he can then he will push the reset button. Time will tell which way it goes.
We know election fraud did take but we simply do not know the extent.
We do not need to prove the extent od fraudes.
If it is possible to conclusively show electoral procedures were avoided, or prevented from being applied, or altered, etc……even in just one location,….then that demonstrated that the entire vote could be suspect and requires a extensive investigation…as a minimum.
There is plenty of video and avidavit evidence to meet that requirement……
..it just needs a honest judiciary system to hear it !
… it just needs a honest judiciary system to hear it !
I agree that the honesty (let alone competence) of various judiciaries cannot be taken for granted.
However the system (to the extent that it is robust and coherent) requires actions to occur within pretty strict guidelines.
There have been several key dates that are now passed – and they do matter:
3 November: any changes to the manner in which states choose electors had to be in place before Election Day
8 December: any slate of Electors that has “safe harbor” status (including a certificate from that state saying the election was fair) has absolute precedence over any other slate that does not have “safe harbor” status – that is the law
And coming up:
6 January: all the slates (and it is 49 plus DC) that met the “safe harbor” deadline must be considered conclusive, and objections to them cannot be entertained
Now if it is the case that over the three weeks between now and 6 January all sorts of evidence is produced saying that the vote in various key states was not kosher – then in terms of the relevant legislation, it might well be all too late. We’ll see.
But realistically, the Republican effort to create “alternative electors” in 6-8 states might not amount to much – since they do not have (a) compliance with the popular vote winner, (b) safe harbor status, or (c) governor certification.
Such efforts are starting from an awful long way behind. Even credible evidence of fraud or law breaches might well be far too late.
Such efforts are starting from an awful long way behind. Even credible evidence of fraud or law breaches might well be far too late.
Yes, that is my point. It still could happen but I won’t hold high hopes on the mess being sorted in the courts in time. We can live and hope though. Plan B to me looks more promising, namely the reset button – PROVIDED Trump has the evidence needed to justify his action to call in the military given it’s an extremely serious step to take. Obviously such action should not be taken lightly under any circumstances. If not done with the right intentions and support, it could cause more harm than good to Trump and his supporters. I have enough confidence he will do the right thing no matter what.
Ya’ll probably ain’t too familiar with the American left. They aren’t big fans of the Constitution or the “dead white males” who wrote it. They’d like to get rid of the whole shebang and write a new one that guarantees equality of outcome rather than opportunity. Which might not sound all that bad until you think about it for 30-seconds and realise equality of outcome is Orwellian doublespeak for police state control of resources distribution rather than the honesty of disinterested markets in goods, services and ideas. The left’s intellectuals are totalitarians, that’s their supersecret you aren’t supposed to know about.
So naturally, the Left would love it if they could gaslight the Right into destroying constitutional norms for them first. Ya’ll should bone up on Gramscian theory of cultural hegemony. You’re being used to do the Left demolition work on the very society you seek to defend.
That’s where Jo’s blog is being mighty helpful in promoting the anti-constitutional agenda of the left. Oh, sure, unwittingly, innocence as babes in the woods, I know. Antifa and BLM burn and loot towns to save them from police brutality, ya’ll want to trash constitutional precedent to save the Republic. The road the hell is paved with both well intentioned rioters and Executive Orders.
The left has captured, murdered and now wears most of the nation’s most precious institutions as skin suits, to paraphrase a witty American blogger. The Left owns almost all the media. Social media, tech platforms like Twitter, Facebook and Google, main stream media, Hollywood and Netflix. The Left owns education from kinder through to higher ed and all the research institutions too. The Left owns much of the government’s supporting bureaucracy, health and welfare, the unions and even big corporate boards who are beholden to generating shareholder profits, not to doing the right thing for the nation’s future.
The only thing the Left has yet to defile is the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. That’s all that holds them to account and reigns in their totalitarian lust for one party rule forever.
The Left realises the only way to ditch the constitutional order is to first create a one-party state, thus stealing elections when they can is a cool hack. But it’s not enough, because they got caught. You’d think we’d be clever enough to ensure it can’t happen again. The real Holy Grail is to get rid of the Electoral College which is the only thing that stands between them and perpetual control of the Executive Branch. Trump lost the popular vote by millions both in 2016 and this year too. Not that it mattered, since the popular vote doesn’t count, but that could be changed. (Note that the votes stole only amounted to probably less than 100,000 strategically placed to win the EC count. Trump is honestly millions of votes popularly behind Biden/Harris.)
If we had a popular vote, then the Democrats will control the Executive Branch forever more due to the population density of big coastal elite cities.
I realise this is a climate science blog not a realpolitik game theory blog, so ya’ll can be forgiven for missing the subtly of the jam we’re in. If Trump pulls out some half-assed Executive Order to challenge the Electoral College it’s a double losing proposition for us and a win/win for the anti-constitutional order Leftists. Trump would set a precedent for clinging to power by EO and that will be pure irony gold for the next Leftist wannabe Caesar, President-for-life demagogue, who is probably sitting for his social justice exams about now at an Ivy League university dreaming of the day he (or zhe) can have the Washington monument torn down and increase the Supreme Court to 40 members stacked with his comrades.
History is never a simple linear projection, it’s complex and chaotic. The best outcome now is for Trump to peacefully step down rather than to screw around with setting a horrible new precedent the Left will surely abuse in the near future. Trump must retire for the good of the nation.
Biden’s election is exposed for what it is. Biden is saddled with an irrational policy platform sure to disappoint a majority of Americans and weaken the country, but ultimately that’s a gift to helping restore Congressional power to the center right in 2022 and with proper election oversight could see a Republican returned to the White House in 2024 rather than Harris.
The mid to late 20th century golden age of consensus politics when both the center left and right were working for the good of the nation ended several decades ago and we are now skating on thin ice towards a possibly brutal end game scenario dominated by the Marxist game theory of Lenin, Trotsky, Alinsky, Obama and Gramsci. As conservatives we must do everything we can do to conserve – even restore – the constitutional norms rather than play into the left’s game of eroding tradition at every turn of history’s worm, even when this means short term losses because we live by American values. The end never justifies the means. We’ll have to take one for history now and keep the faith. Live and learn. Do not let the Left gaslight us into demolishing constitutional norms.
Wes, The whole point is to get GA WI MI and PA to stick with the Constitution.
If those states didn’t breach the Constitution Trump would have won.
No subtlety missed here. The Democrats don’t need an excuse to brazenly ignore the Constitution. They already are, en masse and in multiple ways. If they win this with these breaches, there are no more free and fair elections. Kiss goodbye to the Constitutional Republic called the US of A.
Who is calling for the right to violate the US Constitution? People here are generally asking for it to be strictly adhered to unlike the left who, as you rightfully pointed out, like to “interpret” the Constitution in the manner that they find must advantageous.
Just because the Democrats have acted in bad faith doesn’t mean we should rip up the traditional constitutional rule book. Trump pulling an executive order out of his hat to stop the January transition of power would be a worse historical tragedy than a stolen election. This isn’t the first election that was ever stolen in the US, but it would be the first time a President refused to concede defeat by abusing the executive power vested in him to cling to office when clearly the majority of voters do not support him. Remember Trump lost the EC by only tens of thousand of strategically placed – and probably stolen – votes but popularly he doesn’t carry majority support of the nation as a whole. Trump has no mandate from the American people to cling to office despite foul play by Democrats. To do anything other than graciously concede at this point would lead to national, perhaps even global, chaos and this would deeply please the Leftist anarchists who long for just such a foolish chess move by Trump. But it ain’t gonna happen.
Conservatives do not cause constitutional crises. That’s what fanatical Marxist radicals do. We seek to preserve and protect Constitutional precedent through due process. To a real conservative an election is just an election. There will be others. No election matters more than The Union. Trump is just about out of luck in the courts, so it’s time to concede and then rally around properly organizing to resolve the law and oversight around election processes state by state. It will be a grueling and boring operation I’m sure you’ll lose interest in. It’s not as sexy as a full blown Trumpist revolt against corruption and it will leave the Proud Boys with nothing to do, but them are the realpolitik breaks.
I have to repeat my disappointment in your lack of political nous for not rationally channeling your blog towards a less radical take on this abysmal election. You lost your cool. Panicked. Fanning the passions of conspiracy theories and hoping for what would perceived globally as a Trump coup d’etat is shockingly irresponsible and if Trump does release the Kraken – which he won’t – it would do irreparable injury to the Republic and at the very least so disgust popular American sentiment that the Republicans would lose the Georgia senate elections and thus the senate, handing Biden a total legislative mandate to ram through Congress whatever he wants until 2022. That is an avoidable disaster.
The bottom line is that Trump got shafted and our side is going to have to retreat and reorganize for the battles ahead.
One of your hyperventilating regular posters commented that we should all go down fighting like they did at the Alamo. Fact is that the poor boys at the Alamo were trapped. They had no choice but to fight to the death. It was General Sam Houston that won that war. You wannabe heroes should read up about how old Sam defeated Santa Ana. It wasn’t by rushing into the first or second or even the third chance he had to bring up Texan army face to face with Mexican forces. Houston played Ana like a fiddle, Houston dodged, he ran, he ducked until he had the Mexican emperor exhausted in a swamp, caught out in a siesta with his Yellow Rose, captured with nary a shot fired. Some of Houston men reckoned Houston was a coward for not take the battle to Santa Ana sooner, but they were just naive farm boys eager to prove their manhood. The same farm boys wanted to hang the captured Santa Ana from the nearest oak tree, but Houston wisely prevented that too. Houston prevailed by calm calculation, not by being rash. He was a true conservative hero. His hotheaded farm boy soldiers never even got a chance to die in battle.
Another long boring pointless post- your story, there was a war. Yes, General Sam Houston won it for the US not by capitulating but by active hunting down your Mexican emperor.
Constitutional crisis- brought on by widespread fraud, not by stopping it.
Majority of voters- the evidence so far is that they went for Trump, so did enough of the state votes.
lack of political nous- like surrender- in the face of illegality and actual violence- as proposed by a rump of contributors here. The righteous do outweigh the fraudsters with the decrepit figurehead and bullying judge.
Majority of voters- the evidence so far is that they went for Trump, so did enough of the state votes.
Where is this evidence? And why has there been no state regulatory body, or indeed a court with Republican-appointed judges, that has come to that conclusion?
The current verified (and certified) evidence is that Joe Biden “won in a landslide” – as defined by Donald Trump.
It’s not up to the Biden team to prove there was no fraud – those who believe there is fraud have not been able to persuade 60+ courts. What does this tell us?
And as I tried to point out on another thread, there will be no opportunity to remedy anything with, “… another election.” Barris/Hiden get into office, a complete, 100% totalitarian regime will be implemented with such speed, it will make even Xi’s head spin. Barris/Hiden are total, complete communists who will force anyone who does not agree with them into complete servitude, along with all of the ‘useful idiots’ who helped them implement their agenda. The fact that you cannot see that this is beyond me. Demoncrats have no use whatsoever for ‘free and fair’ elections. They see themselves as a total, ruling elite, who need to be in charge of everyone, and everything, in perpetuity.
The crisis is with the fraud, not the Constitution. Barris/Hiden seek to destroy the Constitution completely, while some of us seek to defend it, and if comes down to it, we will do so with any means available to us.
Sad that someone as eloquent as you is so lacking in an historical context.
May you live in peace and prosperity, for all your days, sir,
Barris/Hiden get into office, a complete, 100% totalitarian regime will be implemented with such speed, it will make even Xi’s head spin.
Barris/Hiden are total, complete communists who will force anyone who does not agree with them into complete servitude, along with all of the ‘useful idiots’ who helped them implement their agenda.
I think you will find that Biden + Harris are going to be too conservative, rather than being too progressive.
There are a lot of people out there (I reckon) who want change, and I expect a lot of them – while they prefer Biden over Trump – should not have their expectations too high.
The Biden Administration picks are very middle of the road – not a lot of Marxist demagoguery in there. Communists, socialists, radicals, reformers … not too many! 🙂
Wasn’t the time bought by the holdouts at The Alamo crucial for Sam Houston to rally/organize the Texan militia in order to defeat the Mexican Army? They may have been trapped but they could easily have surrendered, letting the Mexican army progress unchecked into the heart of Texas.
The continuing challenge to the 2020 US Election results is necessary to make the wider masses see the extent of the fraud that has been perpetuated, if only through the continued evasive responses of the Democrats, RINOs and media, since the direct evidence has been destroyed in many cases.
All challenges so far have been in accordance with the US Constitution and will remain so, IMO. Show us an example of violation of the US Constitution by those who have attempted to launch action against the election results.
Sure, there are hot heads who talk of vigilantism and martial law but they are a minority and unrealistic IMO
Yes, the Alamo was a delaying tactic that worked well enough.
Throughout all of this (starting around 04 November, give-or-take), I am reminded of a small event(s) during the 1960’s and early 70’s; some of us ‘affectionately’ refer to this as the ‘Southeast Asian War Games’.
One side was fairly consistent in tending to lose every battle.
Then they won the war.
Perhaps the parallel does not exist here, but if it should, you read it here first.
As an ailing retiree, I’m not in a position to buy Jo some chocolate. The only thing that has kept me going since 03 November is this website, and it’s realistic appraisal of the situation, and the posts that have detailed analysis. I would humbly beg those of you who might be in a position to do so, send Jo some chocolate, and maybe buy Dr. Evans a sixer of Foster’s, or whatever he likes. As a sinner who’s been saved by our Good Lord’s Grace, I can only offer my (im)moral support, and not the support that Jo and D.E. deserve.
May the Good Lord Bless and Keep us all safe, and may He Shine His Countenance upon President Trump,
Still hopeful and the longer this goes on the more grubby stories and proof of voter fraud are exposed so with a bit of luck justice will prevail .
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Justice is more likely to prevail now that the AG Bill Barr has resigned.
He turned into a do nothing apologist for the swamp.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/william-barr-resigns/
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Did he?
By doing nothing (tacit endorsement perhaps) he encouraged all the perps to go and commit their crimes.
As we saw in the TX vs. PA et. al. it is very hard to convict on intent, but much easier to do so when the crime has been committed with evidence.
The election can still be addressed as discussed in the vid and by the time it ends up on floor I expect the populace will be baying for blood.
Many perps may soon be running for the door (if they are not already) to avoid the rope swing as the swamp is drained and the evil dummocrats, their commie enablers and overlords are removed from the face of the earth.
Who is the Deputy AG?
#1372…prescient right?
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I’ve never seen a more sad and droopy Cocker Spaniel than Bill Barr. He seems totally at a loss to grapple with any unpleasant situation.
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It appears the Bidens were involved in business deals in China.
If so, is this a conflcit of interest?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jim-hunter-biden-china-joint-venture-key-contacts
“Harris, prominent Democrats listed as ‘key contacts’ for Biden family business venture projects
“EXCLUSIVE: A list of “key domestic contacts” for a joint venture involving Jim and Hunter Biden and now-bankrupt CEFC China Energy Co. included former Vice President Joe Biden’s current running mate Sen. Kamala Harris, among other prominent Democrats, Fox News has learned.
“An email exclusively obtained by Fox News, with the subject line “Phase one domestic contacts/ projects” and dated May 15, 2017, Biden’s brother, Jim Biden, shared a list of “key domestic contacts for phase one target projects.”
“The email is unrelated to the laptop or hard drive purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden, the former vice president’s son.
“READ THE EMAIL HERE.
“The list, included Harris, D-Calif.; Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.; Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn.; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y.; New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo; New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio; former Virginia Gov. Terry McCauliffe, among others.
“It is unclear if any of the Democrats were ever contacted about the “target projects.”
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Hunter was flying around in Air Force Two (not just China), complete with security detail, doing deals where 10% went to the “Big Guy”.
It’s not as if this has not been in the public domain. This from 2019:
‘Biden’s trip to China with son Hunter in 2013 comes under new scrutiny’
By Josh Lederman, Oct. 3, 2019, NBC NEWS
But of course, free pass for the Bidens.
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>”Seeking to expand his corruption accusations beyond Ukraine”
Just to reiterate:
‘Joe Biden’s 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived’
John Solomon
Two years after leaving office, Joe Biden couldn’t resist the temptation last year to brag to an audience of foreign policy specialists about the time as vice president that he strong-armed Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor.
In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.
“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.
“Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat.
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Joe’s take, 50%
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“Judges, Politicians all Caving to media pressure. We need Heros to stand up and be counted”
So far the most brave are postal workers and a few election counters.
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Regarding the Supreme Court, Dick Morris says an unsayable truth.
Friday night, the Supreme Court rejected Texas’s case against the disputed states for “lack of standing.” There are a lot of theories for this decision, but Dick Morris said the unsayable: The Supreme Court was intimidated by the Democrats’ promised court-packing scheme.
That facile statement is an insult to Trump supporters. “Standing” is not a complicated concept. In Whitmore v. Arkansas (1990) 495 U.S. 149, 155, the Supreme Court explained,
Unless the Supreme Court surprises me this coming week (and I really hope it does and that I am being wrong and unfair here), there’s every to believe reason that the justices are more concerned with status and safety than they are with election integrity and constitutional principles.
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In the heading there is a message of hope that something good and useful can happen before January 20th to save the USA from its present path and begin a restoration of values that were once appreciated and widely held.
[Snip] Sorry KK but yes a little too OT at the top of the thread, this bit however is ok.]AD
KK
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Maybe you can say it again down the bottom of the thread.
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Moved.
https://joannenova.com.au/2020/12/weekend-unthreaded-338/#comment-2388126
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Try this link for a DuckDuckGo search on John Ratcliffe EO13848:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=john+ratcliffe+eo13484&t=osx&ia=web
The result was a bit of a surprise.
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After the electors cast their ballots today, December 14, their votes are counted and the electors sign certificates showing the results. Congress officially counts the votes in a joint session held in the House chamber on January 6, 2021, with Mr. Pence presiding. The Trump legal team had six weeks to develop a persuasive case. Not much time. They could not even convince Republican judges. It’s over. We’re stuck with Biden. And almost nothing has been accomplished to change Georgia election practices in one month, which could be the second round of bad news. Unlike a movie, sometimes the good guy loses.
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Why would Pence preside over a House session?
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Read my link at #21. This is an unusual election, strange things could happen.
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The incumbent Vice President presides over the Joint Session of Congress convened on 6 January to tally the votes from the Electoral College (14 December).
If the two houses need to split in order to vote separately on one or more objections, then Mike Pence does not preside over the House of Reps.
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They haven’t at this point reached the point where some claim when tyranny becomes law rebellion becomes a duty. That will happen only if Trump fails to use his last option of the Insurrection Act et al to instigate martial law, take over the MSM and social media sites, conduct trials of the traitors and conduct fresh new elections down the road. We have until Jan 20 to see if Trump pulls the trigger. If he doesn’t then the Constitutional Republic is no longer, and all hell will break loose. He is obliged under the Constitution to take all necessary measure to stop Biden from being inaugurated on Jan 20 after having such a fraudulent election. We shall see if he honours that obligation under the Constitution or not.
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Ok so GA,PA & NV electors have voted to give trump Thier electoral college votes,….let the games begins.
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Keeps the can going down the road. Ratcliffe to report Friday.
五角大厦钢铁川粉疑作梗 阻挠拜登与军情单位交
加拿大家园 iask.ca 2020-12-05 13:56 来源: 中时电子报 作者:
美国有线电视新闻网(CNN)引述熟悉过渡交接事务的前资深情报官员爆料，披露川普政府正阻挠总统当选人拜登的过渡团队，会见五角大厦底下的军情各单位。不过，此一报导已遭美国防部驳斥，并强调已暂定下周进行会谈。
报导中指出，虽历经数周的延宕，拜登的“机构检核小组”(Agency Review Team)与其他单位已顺利会晤；惟独国防部下辖的各个情报机构，包括国防情报局(DIA)与国家安全局(NSA)，拜登团队迄今仍无法会面。
尽管国防部否认阻挠拜登团队交接；但资深国防官员却透露，国防部4日已为过渡团队进行各项军事业务简报，包括高层政策与国际安全事务，偏偏情报事务还没进行简报。
《华盛顿邮报》爆料，拜登团队与国防部交接办公室的不顺，在于后者由“钢铁川粉”巴特尔主导，而此人就是散播关于拜登的各种阴谋论的人。
The the translated version:
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A bit “Chinese” when translated.
Assuming that “steel fan” is a person involved in the “stop the steal” activity and that Batelle is a government institution based in Ohio.
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‘Steel fan’ may be a reference to the Taoist demon 鐵扇公主, Princess Iron Fan. Implying that she’s someone acting behind the scenes against the “heroes” of this narrative – Biden and his CCP backers.
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Electoral college has voted with no defections or surprises. Joe Biden is the next President of the United States.
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If Biden is to be the POTUS he has to wait until Jan 20. Until then Trump is the POTUS and that’s that. There’s a lot that can happen and most likely will happen between now and then to surprise all of us.
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Read Simon’s post, make note of the word ‘next’. There is an official President Elect and it is a doddering old fool, but it is not Trump – a one term looser
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And shortly after, the next President of the United States will be Kamala Harris – if the Trump challenges ultimately fail.
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That’s a very loose statement.
Try not to lose control of things.
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Its unlikely Biden will actually be inaugurated, in fact I think Trump is giving every one an opportunity to do the right thing and do things legally, lets see what the DNI report says.
Bad stuff just keeps appearing….. word is getting out, normal social media is being bypassed and the MSM is now being iognored as people now realize it just cant be trusted any more.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9051689/Bill-Barr-directly-intervened-Hunter-Biden-probe-secret-election.html
“Revealed: Bill Barr directly intervened to keep the Hunter Biden probe secret before the election by warning against issuing subpoenas and asking prosecutors if their staff could be trusted
“Attorney General Bill Barr used the force of his office to instruct prosecutors investigating Hunter Biden not to take any steps that might cause the probe to be publicly revealed in the run-up to the election.
“The directive, reported in the Wall Street Journal, was in keeping with existing Justice Department policy against taking investigatory steps close to an election that might interfere with it.
“Barr and his team took steps to ‘insulate’ the investigations, according to the report, even as President Donald Trump repeatedly demanded a probe of his political rival’s son.
“The revelation, coming after Trump raged publicly against Barr for not revealing the Biden probe in the first place, is likely to worsen the president’s mood and fuel speculation about the attorney general being fired before Joe Biden enters office.
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Bill who? he has been sacked
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Check, there is no such position as a president elect despite media BS.
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As we know now, pretty much all media is leftist propaganda….
Some arent, like Trunews.com
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-republicans-meet-state-capitol-wisconsin-vote-gop-slate-electors/
WI GOP have given electoral college votes to Trump…..looks like you backed the wrong foreign invader time to find a rock to scurry under along with GA
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I tried to find this rock but it too has disappeared.
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Since the Democrats have a majority in the House, the GOP can propose an “alternative slate” of Electors, however it goes nowhere on 6 January.
If the House rejects an objection (or a motion to replace the certified Electors with the GOP alternative) then even if the Senate supports it, it is decided by the slate certified by the governor (tie-breaker).
The governors in the six swing states that matter have irreversibly certified the Biden slates, and they will be the ones counted, unless something extraordinary occurs.
But it won’t even get to that – all states except WI met the “safe harbor” date (8 December), meaning Congress must accept that set of electoral votes – they have no discretion.
The “safe harbor” protection works as an incentive to the states to ensure they resolve all their disputes, recounts, and challenges in a timely manner. It works to do that.
And the Electoral College has convened and voted … if the Trump Team had / has strong evidence of fraud, they should have produced it by now. They didn’t help themselves with a breathtakingly incompetent legal team.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-state-police-block-gop-electors-entering-michigan-capitol-cast-votes-president-trump-no-reason-given-video/
Your Chinese masters have stopped the GOP electors in MI
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OK, now if people remember my comment from yesterday about why martial law / use of the miltary…..
Now you have your answer as to exactly why…..and again, I dont want any form of martial law ( becauise it can be abused ) , but it may be needed if a radical fix is needed.
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To the sane reader here. Please look into the gateway pundit before believing what they write.
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>”Joe Biden is the next President of the United States”
Not so fast – see comment #16
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Well it’s done,
all we can do now is offer our congratulations to Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.
Go Jo!
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#sarc
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Explainer: ‘Dueling electors’ pose risk of U.S. vote deadlock
By Tom Hals, Reuters
“If lawmakers cannot agree on a set of electors, the country will find itself in uncharted territory”
“The Electoral Count Act, often described by academics as “unintelligible,” seems to favor the slate of electors certified by the state’s governor”
“The Supreme Court may be called upon to interpret the Electoral College Act to break any deadlock”
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Republican Legislatures Choose Alternate Electors in NV, WI, GA, PA, AZ to Preserve Election Challenge Options
State legislatures in Nevada, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona and Pennsylvania have selected republican electors to preserve cases and lawsuits of election fraud in each state. If the outstanding court cases are successfully argued the republican electors would be able to cast votes for President Donald Trump.
Trump Campaign Senior Advisor Stephen Miller explains what is happening today as each state presents and casts their votes for state electors. The only date outlined in the constitution is January 20th. As Miller outlines: “We have more than enough time to right the wrong of this fraudulent election result.”
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It will be interesting to see of the claim by some that a “safe harbor” provision of the Electoral Count Act dictates changing the slate of electors after election day is a violation of federal law. If that’s the case then Biden will end up being POTUS unless Trump uses his last option under the Constitution. It’s then not even a matter of proving the election was a fraud or not. That would be nice but it takes too long. The real issue is there is so much smoke and mirrors surrounding the election process it causes enough doubt to call into question whether the election is valid or not. In that case they might as well flip a coin. So, a new election has to be conducted using the correct means such that any attempt of commit fraud on any scale is exposed easily and quickly, not months down the track. The only way to conduct a new election is for Trump to do a reset via the Insurrection Act and call in the military who will monitor the progress of the new election. That’s the only way Trump will ever be able to clean up this mess. Otherwise, he might as well throw in the towel on Jan 20 and kiss goodbye to the Constitutional Federal Republic of the US, then watch it crash and burn from afar.
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I just had my account restricted on Farcebook for posting a link to the forensics audit of the Dominion voting machines in Antrim County. The results are damming, as expected.
See:
https://beta.documentcloud.org/documents/20423772-antrim-county-forensics-report
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Don’t worry. If things go according to plan Trump will shut them down or take control of the social media misfits.
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Here is Barris’ policy document. Don’t say you weren’t warned.
https://joebiden.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/UNITY-TASK-FORCE-RECOMMENDATIONS.pdf
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Should have come a with a trigger warning. That document made me physically sick.
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https://joannenova.com.au/2020/12/foreign-interference-in-spades-is-there-anywhere-china-doesnt-have-ccp-party-members/#comment-2388207
My lost comment with link back to this vicinity.
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From Thread below
Michigan Judge Orders Release of Damning Forensics Report of Dominion Vote Tabulation System, Full Forensics Report
After considerable legal filings intended to block the release of a forensic report of Antrim County Dominion vote tabulation systems, a Michigan judge has lifted a gag order allowing the plaintiff, Allied Security Operations Group, to publicly release the findings.
The results of the forensic audit [full pdf here], while limited only to the vote tabulations in Antrim county, are damning for the Michigan system of elections.
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As I said above, I just had my Farcebook account restricted for posting a link to that report and they deleted the link.
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From Paragraph 23 of the report “President Obama signed Executive Order on National Critical Infrastructure on 6 January 2017.”
It goes on to say that President Trump strengthened the Executive Order.
So, it appears President Obama signed an executive order 14 days before President Trump’s inauguration. Was President Elect Trump informed of the executive order at the time of development and signature.
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It was intended to enable a quick kill of Trump. In deliberate irony Trump piggy-backed on that EO two years later. Now that Barr has left the drawer with the Soetoro arraignments will be in play.
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If the unthinkable happens and Biden “wins” the election he will soon be removed under the 25th Amendment (medical incompetence to do the job) or will simply resign because be is so demented he will sign any piece of paper his controllers put in front of him (whilst he retains the ability to even hold a pen).
As evil as Biden is, Harris, who is the intended President, is far worse than Biden. It would be preferable to have Biden over Harris. Although, the reality is that even if he stays as President she will be telling him what to do. At least a Biden figurehead will be better than Harris.
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>”…he will sign any piece of paper his controllers put in front of him”
‘Obama lets the cat out of the bag: He’s got plans to make Joe Biden his stooge’
Monica Showalter
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-nevada-gop-electors-cast-ballot-trump-now-dueling-electors-three-states-video/
Go away no one wants to hear from some one willing to pimp themselves to the Chinese
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Should have been a response to Simon #8
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Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada, and Arizona Republican Electors Cast Votes for Trump
Epoch Times
White House adviser Stephen Miller told Fox News on Dec. 14 that alternate groups of electors were being chosen in several states, claiming that it would lead to Trump’s reelection.
“The only date in the Constitution is Jan. 20″
MI State Police Block Republican Electors From Getting Inside Capitol
Gateway Pundit
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Republican electors in five states cast votes for Trump
Republican electors in four states said Wednesday that they would cast their procedural votes for President Trump from the Nov. 3 elections, and Michigan sent two separate slates of electors to Capitol Hill, 16 electors for Trump and 16 electors for Democrat Joe Biden.
“It’s our duty to the people of Michigan and to the U.S. Constitution to send another slate of electors if the election is in controversy or dispute, and clearly it is,” said Meshawn Maddock, Republican at-large national elector.
Michigan state Rep. Daire Rendon said: “What it comes down to is this: have the secretary of state, director of elections, and election officials proved to you that the election had accuracy and integrity? They have not. And because of this, the election is in dispute.”
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Add Wisconsin from #8.2 and #9.
So, NV, WI, GA, PA, AZ, MI?
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Now dual sets of electors for:
PA, GA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, and NM.
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It might be true but it’s not relevant really … there is a lot of legislation in place – including how the Congress must conduct these election proceedings – that must be observed and adhered to just as much as the Constitution.
Congress can’t change the way it operates without changing the relevant laws, and the Democrats have a House majority.
Stephen Miller might well have other things on the backburner, but changing the electoral slates over to the GOP alternatives in those swing states can’t work now – it’s too late – and has been since 8 December in effect.
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Wisconsin Supreme Court rules state erred by giving blanket exemption to voter ID rules during COVID
Ruling opens door to challenge potentially tens of thousands of ballots in state where difference between Biden, Trump is just about 20,000 votes.
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The problem with the US election challenge is not that a vast majority of the legal arguments lack merit. The problem is that most of the judiciary are so morally corrupt that they are willing to allow willful, substantial, obvious and ultimately election-swinging violations of the law to happen without consequence.
The US judiciary have essentially declared that vote fraud will go unpunished and therefore there’s no possibility of ever having an honest election again.
If Trump doesn’t win this, the Left will take over and it will be the end of the United States as we know it as a Constitutional Republic with representative democracy and it will become a Leftist banana republic like all the others and as Canada will soon become under Trudeau.
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The thing is the constitution states the legislator decides who gets the college votes, Biden will take it SCOTUS, SCOTUS will rule based on the constitution ergo trump gets college votes
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I’ll disagree to an extent. While the Constitution says that “state legislatures” must determine the manner in which electors are chosen, all states have passed laws saying that the party winning the popular vote will be allocated the electoral votes.
It is also a requirement that any move to change the manner in which electors are chosen must be in place before Election Day – it is obvious that any loophole to allow modification after the votes are counted couldn’t be permitted, and it isn’t.
And don’t forget the “safe harbor” rules either.
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BREAKING: Trump Announces Bill Barr Is Out At DOJ, Effective ‘Just Before Christmas
Daily Caller
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Ah, Sceptical Sam at #1.1 9:03 already noted this.
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Here is an interesting take on the Electoral College vote count. The fat lady has not sung yet !!
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/12/no-hes-really-not.html
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Unfortunately for the writer in the link, this is not true. The role of the incumbent Vice President is largely ceremonial and impartial. As it was designed to be – after all the VP might have very serious skin in the game.
Four tellers are appointed (two from the House, two from the Senate, and both parties) and the count and total the electoral votes from every state – taken alphabetically.
If there is a written objection to the electoral votes for a state (in writing, signed by at least one Rep and one Senator), then the two houses leave the Joint Session, in order to briefly discuss and vote on the objection.
There is no discussion or argument allowed in the Joint Session itself, so the incumbent VP is presiding over a largely powerless session. As it was designed to be.
Having Mike Pence open the envelopes does not give Donald Trump any advantage on 6 January.
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Communist China’s Far-Reaching Espionage Efforts Threaten U.S. Under A Joe Biden Presidency
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Donald the Dragon Slayer
The legacy of President Donald Trump will be measured against the diminishment of his enemies.
First — even before he was nominated — he broke the corrupt, elitist Republican Party. If you don’t think that is true, just ask yourself when was the last time you took Jeb Bush seriously.
Next, he maimed the corrupt, elitist Democratic Party, which was so fearful that it resorted to dirty tricks that would have made Dick Nixon blush. Crooked Hillary and her gang of globalists invented a plot to “vilify” Trump by linking him to a fake scandal “claiming interference by Russian security services.” Don’t take my word for it. That comes from a contemporaneous memo by Obama-era CIA Director John Brennan, and we don’t have to speculate about whether the plot came to fruition because the nation wasted more than two years and $32 million on a special-counsel probe to look into the fake allegations against Trump. Some taxpayers group really ought to send Hillary a bill.
After he took office, Trump was able to dismantle a large portion of the globalist infrastructure that had strangled much of U.S. sovereignty, like a political version of the Upside Down from “Stranger Things.” Paris climate accords? Buh-bye. Iran nuclear deal? Unh-uh. NATO allies skating on an IOU? Not gonna happen. Porous border? Build a wall. Mideast wars? Let’s try Mideast peace instead. Unfair trade deals? Return to sender. Chinese threats? Take this virus and shove it!
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Susan Rice Returns
One of Obama’s worst advisers is resurrected for the Biden administration.
As Obama’s UN ambassador and later his national security adviser, Rice stands alone as the worst and most consistent liar this side of Hillary Clinton. In 1996 the late, great William Safire called Hillary a “congenital liar.” Rice is different. Her lies are pathological, not congenital.
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One of her major whoppers was about the death of the ambassador in Benghazi.
Falsely blaming the attack on a minutes long amateur movie made by an Egyptian Coptic Christian immigrant to CA.
Put the poor guy in jail.
Excellent book and movie.
“13 Hours”
Must see presentations by Kris Paronto if YT still allows.
Perhaps the strength and integrity of those men whose truth telling is the only reason we know that Susan Rice lied on TV in the face of the American people, will guide us now.
Deep State in a gorilla suit dancing right in the middle of the court.
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Trump Names Newt Gingrich, 7 Others to Pentagon Board
Trump appointed Gingrich, Thomas Carter, Thomas Stewart, Scott O’Grady, Edward Luttwak, former Rep. Randy Forbes, former Sen. Robert Smith and Charles Glazer, all of whom are close allies of the president.
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and then the following 4 years of repair and rebuilding by the Biden presidency.
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Tell us Gee Aye what hope is there of America ever finding amity and concord under an administration spawned in unanswered allegations of fraudulent imposition?
I say we exhume Earl Warren to chair a commission of inquiry which can chop off all the loose threads and set the collective mind of the American public at ease.
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There was no fraud, so there is nothing to answer.
Voter suppression on the other hand is a different matter and allowing access to the elections for more voters is a priority.
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I’m sure that Britain would be happy to send a few boatloads over, how many do you want.
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Have you looked at the Jovah Nutton Pulitzer video where he talks of “kinematic artefacts” which can differentiate between ballots which have been marked by pen and ballots with the marks already printed? It provides the simplest path to legitimacy; I was only kidding about the grave robbing enterprise.
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Should have written “Jovan”
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“Hutton” (it deteriorates more with each viewing)
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There was no fraud…..
Yup….dream on.
All is good in the Soviet of Leafistan….
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Wisconsin Supreme Court Rules Absentee Ballot Distribution Violated State Law, Opens Door For Challenges
The Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled today that Governor Tony Evers and other state and municipal officers did not have the legal authority to expand the definition of “indefinitely confined” citizens to permit absentee voting without showing a state ID.
The ruling appears to open the door for the Trump campaign to challenge any absentee ballot cast in Wisconsin that was outside the legally defined rules to receive them. This judicial decision was reached at the same time Wisconsin legislators voted to affirm their electors. The sad irony is thick.
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no it didn’t
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My reading of the link, and the linked pdf of the ruling, agrees with Old Ozzie.
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Main Stream Media are adopting and as a group are forcing their members to follow suit and continue a “Censorship by Silence” on those who they despise, hate and loathe and guess who that might be?
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You couldn’t make this stuff up:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/joe-biden-delivers-remarks-following-states-electoral-college-vote-day-gets-4000-views-cspan-page-joe-got-80-million-votes/
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Joggin’ Joe teetering and coughing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wScbGf1acJo&feature=youtu.be
I see 4 lurches to the left – ominous?
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Ha !…apparently youtube are not making this available in Oz ?
Perhaps they are embarassed by him ?
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Those with the Opera browser can see it in the VPN using Virtual Location = Americas.
All challenges were found to be without merit he tells his audience and still the baseless claims are being made…
Let’s see who is inaugurated then and whether Joe and his gang form a government in exile under the wing of their CCP backers in Peking.
This promises to be a very exciting Christmas.
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Ok, who is telling the truth ?
All MS Media are reporting that Biden has already exceeded the 270 College votes…with more to come.
Biden has run Press conference confirming that it is now a simple time and procedure matter for his Inaugeration ??
But others here still say these College votes can still be changed before Jan 6 ?
Also , how can a state Governor prevent College votes from being submitted ??? ..that sounds insane !….a single State Governor inhibiting a federal election process .?
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https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2020/12/judge-kevin-elsenheimer-of-the-13th-circuit-court-michigan-releases-forensic-report-on-dominion-voti.html
Forensic audit report, voting manipulated.
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On Stephen Miller’s main point in the Fox & Friends interview above, the three sets of “alternative electors” the Republicans named on 14 Dec will not assist Trump’s cause.
In order for these “alternative electors” in the three swing states that Trump requires to be accepted instead of the certified electors, it would require a simple majority in both houses, voting separately.
Clearly the Democrat-controlled House will not vote that way, and it is highly unlikely that the Republican-controlled Senate would support the “maverick” electoral votes either.
But if the Senate did accept the “alternative electors” then Trump still loses, because the tie-breaker is the slate certified by each state governor – and they are all the Biden voters.
Trump it seems has run out of political pathways – and also probably judicial ones as well, at this stage. Stephen Miller obviously knows all this, so what else could be cooking?
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>”the tie-breaker is the slate certified by each state governor”
Not as cut-and-dried as you think according to Reuters upthread at #8.6
Also the ultimate tie-breaker is the Supreme Court:
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I doubt it…..their track record suggests they dont seem to want to do anything, other than hide behind their protected status, and contemplate their navels !
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However with a House Democrat majority, any move by the Senate to object or reject a state’s electors – or even all slates – would require support from the House, which they wouldn’t get.
The relevant Act is convoluted, however any state that met the “safe harbor” date is deemed confirmed, and even if the Senate ignored that rule, the next step is – which one was certified by the state governor?
I don’t think anyone is suggesting the Supreme Court would step in and retrospectively over-ride the “safe harbor” provisions, and the finalised certification by the relevant state governor. We’ll see!
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It all comes down to what Trump knows and what evidence he has to support his next move, which is the Insurrection Act et al. If he’s just bluffing then there’s nothing he really can do unless he still goes down that path and risks loosing support even from his own people if it turns out his stories about electoral interference from foreign powers were mostly fake. We know election fraud did take but we simply do not know the extent. It’s a mess that’s fore sure. Presumably Trump knows a lot more than he’s letting out at this stage. We just have to wait and see what he does. The ball is in his court, not the SCOTUS as most people think. That’s the way the Constitutional Law works as the US is a Constitutional Federal Republic with the POTUS as the supreme head of state. He just has to abide by the Constitutional Law and be able to back up his reasons. If he can’t then he should just walk away. If he can then he will push the reset button. Time will tell which way it goes.
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We do not need to prove the extent od fraudes.
If it is possible to conclusively show electoral procedures were avoided, or prevented from being applied, or altered, etc……even in just one location,….then that demonstrated that the entire vote could be suspect and requires a extensive investigation…as a minimum.
There is plenty of video and avidavit evidence to meet that requirement……
..it just needs a honest judiciary system to hear it !
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I agree that the honesty (let alone competence) of various judiciaries cannot be taken for granted.
However the system (to the extent that it is robust and coherent) requires actions to occur within pretty strict guidelines.
There have been several key dates that are now passed – and they do matter:
3 November: any changes to the manner in which states choose electors had to be in place before Election Day
8 December: any slate of Electors that has “safe harbor” status (including a certificate from that state saying the election was fair) has absolute precedence over any other slate that does not have “safe harbor” status – that is the law
And coming up:
6 January: all the slates (and it is 49 plus DC) that met the “safe harbor” deadline must be considered conclusive, and objections to them cannot be entertained
Now if it is the case that over the three weeks between now and 6 January all sorts of evidence is produced saying that the vote in various key states was not kosher – then in terms of the relevant legislation, it might well be all too late. We’ll see.
But realistically, the Republican effort to create “alternative electors” in 6-8 states might not amount to much – since they do not have (a) compliance with the popular vote winner, (b) safe harbor status, or (c) governor certification.
Such efforts are starting from an awful long way behind. Even credible evidence of fraud or law breaches might well be far too late.
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Yes, that is my point. It still could happen but I won’t hold high hopes on the mess being sorted in the courts in time. We can live and hope though. Plan B to me looks more promising, namely the reset button – PROVIDED Trump has the evidence needed to justify his action to call in the military given it’s an extremely serious step to take. Obviously such action should not be taken lightly under any circumstances. If not done with the right intentions and support, it could cause more harm than good to Trump and his supporters. I have enough confidence he will do the right thing no matter what.
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Ya’ll probably ain’t too familiar with the American left. They aren’t big fans of the Constitution or the “dead white males” who wrote it. They’d like to get rid of the whole shebang and write a new one that guarantees equality of outcome rather than opportunity. Which might not sound all that bad until you think about it for 30-seconds and realise equality of outcome is Orwellian doublespeak for police state control of resources distribution rather than the honesty of disinterested markets in goods, services and ideas. The left’s intellectuals are totalitarians, that’s their supersecret you aren’t supposed to know about.
So naturally, the Left would love it if they could gaslight the Right into destroying constitutional norms for them first. Ya’ll should bone up on Gramscian theory of cultural hegemony. You’re being used to do the Left demolition work on the very society you seek to defend.
That’s where Jo’s blog is being mighty helpful in promoting the anti-constitutional agenda of the left. Oh, sure, unwittingly, innocence as babes in the woods, I know. Antifa and BLM burn and loot towns to save them from police brutality, ya’ll want to trash constitutional precedent to save the Republic. The road the hell is paved with both well intentioned rioters and Executive Orders.
The left has captured, murdered and now wears most of the nation’s most precious institutions as skin suits, to paraphrase a witty American blogger. The Left owns almost all the media. Social media, tech platforms like Twitter, Facebook and Google, main stream media, Hollywood and Netflix. The Left owns education from kinder through to higher ed and all the research institutions too. The Left owns much of the government’s supporting bureaucracy, health and welfare, the unions and even big corporate boards who are beholden to generating shareholder profits, not to doing the right thing for the nation’s future.
The only thing the Left has yet to defile is the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. That’s all that holds them to account and reigns in their totalitarian lust for one party rule forever.
The Left realises the only way to ditch the constitutional order is to first create a one-party state, thus stealing elections when they can is a cool hack. But it’s not enough, because they got caught. You’d think we’d be clever enough to ensure it can’t happen again. The real Holy Grail is to get rid of the Electoral College which is the only thing that stands between them and perpetual control of the Executive Branch. Trump lost the popular vote by millions both in 2016 and this year too. Not that it mattered, since the popular vote doesn’t count, but that could be changed. (Note that the votes stole only amounted to probably less than 100,000 strategically placed to win the EC count. Trump is honestly millions of votes popularly behind Biden/Harris.)
If we had a popular vote, then the Democrats will control the Executive Branch forever more due to the population density of big coastal elite cities.
I realise this is a climate science blog not a realpolitik game theory blog, so ya’ll can be forgiven for missing the subtly of the jam we’re in. If Trump pulls out some half-assed Executive Order to challenge the Electoral College it’s a double losing proposition for us and a win/win for the anti-constitutional order Leftists. Trump would set a precedent for clinging to power by EO and that will be pure irony gold for the next Leftist wannabe Caesar, President-for-life demagogue, who is probably sitting for his social justice exams about now at an Ivy League university dreaming of the day he (or zhe) can have the Washington monument torn down and increase the Supreme Court to 40 members stacked with his comrades.
History is never a simple linear projection, it’s complex and chaotic. The best outcome now is for Trump to peacefully step down rather than to screw around with setting a horrible new precedent the Left will surely abuse in the near future. Trump must retire for the good of the nation.
Biden’s election is exposed for what it is. Biden is saddled with an irrational policy platform sure to disappoint a majority of Americans and weaken the country, but ultimately that’s a gift to helping restore Congressional power to the center right in 2022 and with proper election oversight could see a Republican returned to the White House in 2024 rather than Harris.
The mid to late 20th century golden age of consensus politics when both the center left and right were working for the good of the nation ended several decades ago and we are now skating on thin ice towards a possibly brutal end game scenario dominated by the Marxist game theory of Lenin, Trotsky, Alinsky, Obama and Gramsci. As conservatives we must do everything we can do to conserve – even restore – the constitutional norms rather than play into the left’s game of eroding tradition at every turn of history’s worm, even when this means short term losses because we live by American values. The end never justifies the means. We’ll have to take one for history now and keep the faith. Live and learn. Do not let the Left gaslight us into demolishing constitutional norms.
Behave like conservatives not radicals!
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Wes, The whole point is to get GA WI MI and PA to stick with the Constitution.
If those states didn’t breach the Constitution Trump would have won.
No subtlety missed here. The Democrats don’t need an excuse to brazenly ignore the Constitution. They already are, en masse and in multiple ways. If they win this with these breaches, there are no more free and fair elections. Kiss goodbye to the Constitutional Republic called the US of A.
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Who is calling for the right to violate the US Constitution? People here are generally asking for it to be strictly adhered to unlike the left who, as you rightfully pointed out, like to “interpret” the Constitution in the manner that they find must advantageous.
Y’all get that?
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There are two things you must do.
1. While I understand the magic of reading books, it’s time:
Close Them.
2. Now walk to the front door, take a deep breath, open that door and;
Step outside, the real world is amazing.
KK
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Jo,
Just because the Democrats have acted in bad faith doesn’t mean we should rip up the traditional constitutional rule book. Trump pulling an executive order out of his hat to stop the January transition of power would be a worse historical tragedy than a stolen election. This isn’t the first election that was ever stolen in the US, but it would be the first time a President refused to concede defeat by abusing the executive power vested in him to cling to office when clearly the majority of voters do not support him. Remember Trump lost the EC by only tens of thousand of strategically placed – and probably stolen – votes but popularly he doesn’t carry majority support of the nation as a whole. Trump has no mandate from the American people to cling to office despite foul play by Democrats. To do anything other than graciously concede at this point would lead to national, perhaps even global, chaos and this would deeply please the Leftist anarchists who long for just such a foolish chess move by Trump. But it ain’t gonna happen.
Conservatives do not cause constitutional crises. That’s what fanatical Marxist radicals do. We seek to preserve and protect Constitutional precedent through due process. To a real conservative an election is just an election. There will be others. No election matters more than The Union. Trump is just about out of luck in the courts, so it’s time to concede and then rally around properly organizing to resolve the law and oversight around election processes state by state. It will be a grueling and boring operation I’m sure you’ll lose interest in. It’s not as sexy as a full blown Trumpist revolt against corruption and it will leave the Proud Boys with nothing to do, but them are the realpolitik breaks.
I have to repeat my disappointment in your lack of political nous for not rationally channeling your blog towards a less radical take on this abysmal election. You lost your cool. Panicked. Fanning the passions of conspiracy theories and hoping for what would perceived globally as a Trump coup d’etat is shockingly irresponsible and if Trump does release the Kraken – which he won’t – it would do irreparable injury to the Republic and at the very least so disgust popular American sentiment that the Republicans would lose the Georgia senate elections and thus the senate, handing Biden a total legislative mandate to ram through Congress whatever he wants until 2022. That is an avoidable disaster.
The bottom line is that Trump got shafted and our side is going to have to retreat and reorganize for the battles ahead.
One of your hyperventilating regular posters commented that we should all go down fighting like they did at the Alamo. Fact is that the poor boys at the Alamo were trapped. They had no choice but to fight to the death. It was General Sam Houston that won that war. You wannabe heroes should read up about how old Sam defeated Santa Ana. It wasn’t by rushing into the first or second or even the third chance he had to bring up Texan army face to face with Mexican forces. Houston played Ana like a fiddle, Houston dodged, he ran, he ducked until he had the Mexican emperor exhausted in a swamp, caught out in a siesta with his Yellow Rose, captured with nary a shot fired. Some of Houston men reckoned Houston was a coward for not take the battle to Santa Ana sooner, but they were just naive farm boys eager to prove their manhood. The same farm boys wanted to hang the captured Santa Ana from the nearest oak tree, but Houston wisely prevented that too. Houston prevailed by calm calculation, not by being rash. He was a true conservative hero. His hotheaded farm boy soldiers never even got a chance to die in battle.
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Another long boring pointless post- your story, there was a war. Yes, General Sam Houston won it for the US not by capitulating but by active hunting down your Mexican emperor.
Constitutional crisis- brought on by widespread fraud, not by stopping it.
Majority of voters- the evidence so far is that they went for Trump, so did enough of the state votes.
lack of political nous- like surrender- in the face of illegality and actual violence- as proposed by a rump of contributors here. The righteous do outweigh the fraudsters with the decrepit figurehead and bullying judge.
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Where is this evidence? And why has there been no state regulatory body, or indeed a court with Republican-appointed judges, that has come to that conclusion?
The current verified (and certified) evidence is that Joe Biden “won in a landslide” – as defined by Donald Trump.
It’s not up to the Biden team to prove there was no fraud – those who believe there is fraud have not been able to persuade 60+ courts. What does this tell us?
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Verbalism; telling a true inspiring story that sounds real, and then incorrectly linking that to the current situation.
Deal with the reality of Now.
There was Not a free and fair election and that is unacceptable and must be dealt with Now.
KK
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And as I tried to point out on another thread, there will be no opportunity to remedy anything with, “… another election.” Barris/Hiden get into office, a complete, 100% totalitarian regime will be implemented with such speed, it will make even Xi’s head spin. Barris/Hiden are total, complete communists who will force anyone who does not agree with them into complete servitude, along with all of the ‘useful idiots’ who helped them implement their agenda. The fact that you cannot see that this is beyond me. Demoncrats have no use whatsoever for ‘free and fair’ elections. They see themselves as a total, ruling elite, who need to be in charge of everyone, and everything, in perpetuity.
The crisis is with the fraud, not the Constitution. Barris/Hiden seek to destroy the Constitution completely, while some of us seek to defend it, and if comes down to it, we will do so with any means available to us.
Sad that someone as eloquent as you is so lacking in an historical context.
May you live in peace and prosperity, for all your days, sir,
Vlad
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I think you will find that Biden + Harris are going to be too conservative, rather than being too progressive.
There are a lot of people out there (I reckon) who want change, and I expect a lot of them – while they prefer Biden over Trump – should not have their expectations too high.
The Biden Administration picks are very middle of the road – not a lot of Marxist demagoguery in there. Communists, socialists, radicals, reformers … not too many! 🙂
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The style of writing and type of conclusions drawn are remarkable in that they follow the same pattern as another contributor here: Richard Greene.
What’s in the water over there; are you and GD cousins?
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Wasn’t the time bought by the holdouts at The Alamo crucial for Sam Houston to rally/organize the Texan militia in order to defeat the Mexican Army? They may have been trapped but they could easily have surrendered, letting the Mexican army progress unchecked into the heart of Texas.
The continuing challenge to the 2020 US Election results is necessary to make the wider masses see the extent of the fraud that has been perpetuated, if only through the continued evasive responses of the Democrats, RINOs and media, since the direct evidence has been destroyed in many cases.
All challenges so far have been in accordance with the US Constitution and will remain so, IMO. Show us an example of violation of the US Constitution by those who have attempted to launch action against the election results.
Sure, there are hot heads who talk of vigilantism and martial law but they are a minority and unrealistic IMO
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Greetings, Analitik:
Yes, the Alamo was a delaying tactic that worked well enough.
Throughout all of this (starting around 04 November, give-or-take), I am reminded of a small event(s) during the 1960’s and early 70’s; some of us ‘affectionately’ refer to this as the ‘Southeast Asian War Games’.
One side was fairly consistent in tending to lose every battle.
Then they won the war.
Perhaps the parallel does not exist here, but if it should, you read it here first.
As an ailing retiree, I’m not in a position to buy Jo some chocolate. The only thing that has kept me going since 03 November is this website, and it’s realistic appraisal of the situation, and the posts that have detailed analysis. I would humbly beg those of you who might be in a position to do so, send Jo some chocolate, and maybe buy Dr. Evans a sixer of Foster’s, or whatever he likes. As a sinner who’s been saved by our Good Lord’s Grace, I can only offer my (im)moral support, and not the support that Jo and D.E. deserve.
May the Good Lord Bless and Keep us all safe, and may He Shine His Countenance upon President Trump,
Vlad
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