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I disagree with this exclusive.
‘Epidemiologist and mathematical biologist James McCaw, who is leading a research team providing modelling on the pandemic to the federal government, said it was “absolutely inevitable” that the virus would spread within Australia.’ (SMH)
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Like Boris Johnson’s advisers, he was as wrong as it is possible to be wrong. And in Britain, it has cost thousands of lives. Here the major losses can be pinned to Communist Premier Daniel Andrews and his attempts to run Victoria as a province of China make a killing on the side, now over 820 lives. We Victorians want to know why he is not prosecuted for 800 counts of manslaughter under his own appalling laws.
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Mistakes were made, it was a novel experience, but at least we have a strong PM.
‘Australia to stay shut indefinitely: Morrison
‘Scott Morrison says he sees ‘no appetite’ among Australians to open the international border, not convinced on the reliability of vaccines.’ (Oz)
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Jo pointed out 16 month ago that vaccines would not play-out well over time. Finding antivirals and effective regimens was the more likely direction to be effective with in the longer game (in conjunction), for when the vaccines failed to cover all strains. So it is.
That said, there is a lot of BS being churned out in the media about India right now. If you look at the mortality there, or even in Brazil for that matter, the mortality rates in Europe dwarf those in either country, and India in particular, so how could their new strain be so deadly then?
The claims on the ABC’s site are some of the most inaccurate and hysterical, when it comes to India. They claimed 1 person died ever 4 seconds, which was not close to true on the numbers, of course. For example, there are 86,400 seconds in 24 hours, so for that to be true 21,600 people would have to die on that day. When they said it officially about 3,000 were dying per day, in all of India, from COVID19.
Seven times smaller than ABC reported. Same with mortality, the Indian morality was 123 in 1 million at the time (it’s now a fair bit higher), but in Europe 2,500 deaths per million is typical. So how can the Indian strains be some much more deadly, or contagious? They aren’t, quite the reverse, the European effects and deaths are vastly greater than what is occurring in India, or even in Brazil. So frankly, the Indian situation is a comparative non-event still. That could change, and they become more like Europe, but so far they India has got off incredibly lightly.
So what’s all this bodies being burned in the streets stuff on ABC, and other click-bait sites? Well, as it turns out, it is normal for Indians to burn bodies, especially when their movement is being restricted and they can’t do it elsewhere.
I took the population of India and presumed a lifespan of about 70 years, so I did come rough calcs, because 1.4 billion alive means a minimum of 1.4 billion deaths must occur in side of 70 years. Which come out to ~152 deaths per second, every second in all of India.
So what do you do with the bodies, if you an;t go anywhere and funerals are out of the question? Well, you burn them in the street, right? Hence why there are so many bodies that “we’re running out of firewood”, to burn them. Thus the hysterical media photos and claims of apocalypse in India, especially on the ABC. All confected BS, and you can bet the ‘Journos’ know it’s a massive misrepresentation of the real situation in India.
Lying click-bait is King on planet Google.
There’s no story on the ABC site which will not be loaded to the gills with brazen lies and misrepresentations of any topic. Objective truth is of course not actually available to people, ever, but you can get much closer to comprehending the reality of situations, if you try. But ABC does not try. Quite the reverse, they deliberately and actively avoid reporting the approximate truth, routinely. They go to extravagant lengths to create fictions out of known facts, which tell a completely different story. Despicable.
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Very good piece. Rational and pertinent.
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Firewood is expensive for poor families hence some of the pollution of the Ganges: Poorly cremated bodies. This is the norm, maybe travel restrictions will give the Ganges a chance to cleanse itself.
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The ABC is loose with the truth, but I think we should lock out everyone until they organise regional concentration camps.
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WX… you really should check your data and calculation estimates before you post.
India’s “all causes” annual death rate is readily available from various sources and is currently quoted at 7.3/1000.
That equates to approx 28,000 per day, or 19 per minute ( one every 3-4 secs ) !
If you learn to “data mine” effectively, you may also learn that historicaly, India has a death rate of approx 3000/day from “Pulminary Disease’s “ !!
And did you yjik to check what “152 deaths every second” would actually imply ?
……within 20 years the entire 1.4 b population would disappear !
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I would assume a simple error – sloppy but not nefarious.
I heard a reporter live from Delhi this morning (on that source you can trust – ABC Radio News), and she said four new cases per second, and one death each four minutes. And that the death rate from all causes was currently exceeding the birth rate.
I’m not sure why the figures from India are suspected to be too high – most reporters from there really believe that the numbers (cases + deaths) are significantly under-reported.
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WX… you really should check your data and calculation estimates before you post.
India’s “all causes” annual death rate is readily available from various sources and is currently quoted at 7.3/1000.
That equates to approx 28,000 per day, or 19 per minute ( one every 3-4 secs ) !
If you learn to “data mine” effectively, you may also learn that historicaly, India has a death rate of approx 3000/day from “Pulminary Disease’s “ !!
And did you think to check what “152 deaths every second” would actually imply ?
……within 20 years the entire 1.4 b population would disappear !
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Hmm?….i dont know how that duplicate happened as i logged in again ?
Mods, please delete .
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ABCess:
ALL agitprop, ALL the time.
Their “News” is loaded with chat-fests of “personalities” gravely discussing various issues. This is also happening at Sex before Soccer and the “comical” channels.
ABCess radio is pretty much statist propaganda 24/7. Radio Notional and “News”Radio are hard-core, the “other” ABCess AM network merely being a “chatty” variant, with an occasional bit of music tossed in to break the verbal drumbeat.
Your taxes at “work”.
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I agree with this exclusive.
‘Chinese military scientists discussed the weaponisation of SARS coronaviruses five years before the COVID-19 pandemic, outlining their ideas in a document that predicted a third world war would be fought with biological weapons.’ (Oz)
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Good on Sharri Markson for her continued probing on the issue she deserves more recognition. I take the view as well that CCP manipulated this virus with a lot of help from 5th columnists in the West. We know who they are and we are well aware of the Chinese strategy that entails the ‘weaponisation” of viruses. This current event is a test run.
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Why would anybody test run such a weapon? Lucky it was a fizzer eh.
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It wasn’t a test run, a whistle blower or lone wolf released Covid at the fish market.
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How do you know that EG?
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Intuition.
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What happened to proof?
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Just remember you heard it from me first.
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That’s not right either.
You were way behind the pack.
That doesn’t mean it’s not true though. 🙂
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Never a attribute a conspiracy to what can be explained by incompetence. Most likely a low paid worker sold an infected animal in the wet market.
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Its a fish market, get a grip.
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It’s a typical Chinese fish market. Bat and fish. Usually a soup or a bat and fish dumpling.
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Clearly you are well travelled, I’ll take your word on that. Its possible that an infected bad was sold at the fish market, greed and incompetence, but no conspiracy.
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@R.B.
@el gordo
@TdeF
The fish market might be a Red Herring:
“Steven Quay, a physician-researcher, has applied statistical and bioinformatic tools to ingenious explorations of the virus’s origin, showing for instance how the hospitals receiving the early patients are clustered along the Wuhan №2 subway line which connects the Institute of Virology at one end with the international airport at the other, the perfect conveyor belt for distributing the virus from lab to globe.”
https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038
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@el gordo, @R.B.:
We’re in the realm of fantasy and pure speculation now.
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Yes indeed, thanks for that link.
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Reconnaissance by “fire”
The “test” was actually of the “official responses”. I think most of us know how that went.
Those who have done NBC warfare training will be aware that biological and chemical strikes are not simply intended to be mass casualty generators, but the be mass “area denial” activities. If an area is plastered with Anthrax or binary “V” agents, entry to that area can only be conducted by troops wearing full protective gear, traveling in protected vehicles. As anyone who has worn full MOPP 3 gear at any time, for more than a few minutes, such attire may offer protection, but it seriously impedes body movement and sight and hearing. It also has to be changed fairly frequently as the chemically suit liner is degraded by the wearer’s sweat and body oils being soaked up. The very expensive filters in the fully-hooded masks need to be change regularly as well.
Critically, weapons and personal equipment need to be constantly monitored for contamination and if needed, be “decontaminated using sundry chemicals and goodies like steam-cleaners.
ALL of which is a major embuggerance to troop deployment and even such mundane tasks as eating and going to the latrine.
This “embuggerance” is of VERY high tactical value to the people who launched the stuff.
There ARE emergency jab kits to minimize the effect of contact with most of these nerve agents, but that is one more complexity to be factored into a tactical situation.
Battlefield Bio-Hazards are just as untidy to deal with.
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Maybe a test run but definitely a controlled release. I think we have lost sight of the pattern of the initial hot spots. China closed down internal travel before they admitted it even existed yet allow it’s citizens to travel around the world from Wuhan. The initial external outbreaks were limited to western financial hubs like London & New York and technological hubs in fields that China trailed the west like microprocessors in California and robotics in northern Italy. And coincidentally the place that produces 40% of the worlds processors Taiwan remained unscathed while China’s military incursion activities increased.
I think it was an intentional controlled release and it was a dud, I think China had planned that the west would not be in a position to stop it taking Taiwan, but that hasn’t happened.
And where did SinaVac come from? It just appeared in full production within months, my guess is that it already existed in the same lab.
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My latest research:
https://www.cfact.org/2021/05/07/a-good-example-of-a-bad-environmental-justice-study/
A good example of a bad environmental justice study
By David Wojick
The beginning: “Biden’s so-called environmental justice push is going to bring on a big wave of bogus research. A really big report just came out so I want to chop on it a bit. Not just for its specific fallacies, but also as typical of what we are going to see a lot of. As with the climate scare, there is a careful combination of bad modeling plus goofy statistics.
In fact the term “environmental justice” just means unhappy environmental statistics with a racial or ethnic focus. That the situation described is somehow deliberately unjust is assumed but often false. It certainly is false in this case. The concept of environmental injustice tends to be more emotional than rational.”
There is a lot more in the article. Environmental justice tends to be a nonsensical concept.
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Good article, David. Using a racial theme to push environmental policy and settlements is not necessarily new, I saw it discussed among the faculty at at a University twenty years ago, but the vein they are working seems to be renewed at present.
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Not new but exploding in US policy. Biden is proposing the 40% of federal “investment” be directed to “environmental justice communities” whatever that means?
Big bucks in play for EJ.
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It is not just Biden. All of the Western countries have strange stupid, smiley Zombie governments who are trying to spend our countries to death.
The censorship/control of the internet/social media companies is part of plan. Necessary to enable dangerous spending to death on stupid things that will never work.
Enable the governments to weaken our countries…. by starting internal fights about ‘race’ and ‘gender’.
The core of the problem is the unintentional consequences of fake (agenda) news, fake universities, and fake governments. In the old days governments were stupid and corrupt but were sort of on our side. In the old days, in the US there were Politicians who would speak the truth.
The hydrogen economy/scam is a great example of how the scheme works. The objective is to get the Western countries/US to spend themselves to death. The hydrogen plan will never work. More money spent will not change that.
‘Science’ and Engineering does not work if the ‘Scientists’/’Economists’/’Engineers’/’Accountants’/and so on have hidden agendas and/or are afraid to publish/unable to publish studies that do not push the CAGW agenda and the Green Scams.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/05/07/ocean-acidification-effects-research-in-doubt/
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There is an apt new term “neoracism” to describe the politics of division and reverse racism of the corporatist-globalists. I like it, we need more such terms to combat the Scientism and hate with which we are besieged. Especially the stuff from the biggest publicly-funded socio-globalist media outlet in Australia.
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Some parts of the UK are still experiencing winter conditions because of a negative NAO.
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao_index.html
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That’s a marked drop in values there. Wonder if corresponding Southern Hemisphere AAO eventuates.
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Models forecast that it will dip down to the line.
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/aao/aao_index.html
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A snapshot of SAM.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_oscillation
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It’s fascinating. When it is warmer, that is Global Warming. Definitely. Absolutely. Exactly as predicted by the computer models.
When it is cooler, that is some ocean current oscillation which could not be predicted by the climate models. But we are to believe they can predict the long term weather accurately when they cannot predict the greatest influences on the weather?
Ocean currents are like the Get Out Of Jail Free card in Monopoly.
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Here in the Adelaide Hills the locals are wondering if the BOM can predict the weather 24 hours in advance. Mind you they predicted showers for yesterday and we had a big downpour about midday Saturday.
Still I remember in the 70’s Alf Gard (on the ABC) provoked a storm on precisely this subject.
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After this first sentence the authors wax lyrical that AGW is responsible, but we might gain some insight from these few words.
‘Recent research shows that 90% of the net global ocean heat gain during 2005–2015 was confined to the southern hemisphere with little corresponding heat gain in the northern hemisphere ocean.’ (Rathore et al 2020)
Why is it so?
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That ocean heat gain is a mystery. My quick calculations show that the current agreed heat imbalance of 0.6watts/sqmetre ends up adding 0.1C to the ocean every 42,000 years. So the story is that it is confined to the upper ocean while CO2 is confined to the lower ocean. That way they can claim CO2 causes Global Warming because it heats the surface. Even so, I have never understood why the idea that the ocean releases CO2 as a consequence is never considered. They jump to the idea that somehow the ocean is heated by CO2? Which makes no sense. The oceans do not radiate much because they are cooler than the land. And even the air is not hotter by much and +1.5C has to be divided by 1400 to get the change in ocean temperature. It all seems to be contrived fantasy where increased ocean surface temperatures would produce a real jump in CO2, the imbalance in radiation is tiny. So is industrial CO2.
The argument against that rapdily increasing CO2 has never happened before, so it must be our fault. This in turn is ‘proven’ by ice cores but I am very suspicious that relatively rapid changes in CO2 are not trackable by ice cores because of predictable leaching and averaging. In each case the promoters of CO2 warming tell us that CO2 cannot move in ice and cannot move in the oceans. Both seem a very convenient and unproven rationalizations to make a most unlikely scenario plausible.
But then ‘The Science’ is all about unlikely scenarios without proof. Real science proves that our contribution to aerial CO2 is under 4%. It should have ended there 33 years ago. James Hansen’s thesis is rubbish science, as is very obvious now that his failed predictions are history.
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As for measuring the heat gain in the ocean, how do they do it? A change of 0.1C in the entire ocean would be incredible. The approach people take of assuming everything is constant except what they are measuring is just nuts.
The oceans have currents in every directions, including up and down. And the heat capacity of the oceans make them a massive solar battery. Consider each 0.1C as 42,000 years of heating. We may not think of the oceans as warm, but they are warm and a large proportion of humanity lives near oceans for the warmth in winter and coolness in summer and the fresh water which comes from the evaporation. It is outrageous that anyone presumes to predict long term climates without a thorough modelling of the massive ocean currents which contain almost all the heat on the surface of the planet.
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No physicists were harmed in the making of many Climate Science reports. And Professor Ridd’s complaint of lack of scientific rigour is now hitting JCU hard. It looks like the alleged JCU faking of Climate Science results with fish and CO2 is a major scandal internationally. Too much money chasing CO2 drama, destroyed reefs, dying fish. All fake. Now I assume they have to cope with collapsing student numbers are well.
Maybe it’s time for JCU to stop spending public millions chasing and punishing the whistleblower.
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And you have to love the whitewash!
“The ARC said allegations of wrongdoing were referred to the appropriate university for investigation.
A JCU spokesman said the allegations had been investigated under JCU’s Code for the Responsible Conduct of Research.
The investigation recommended the matter be dismissed and the findings communicated to the ARC.”
Nothing to see here folks. The University has investigated itself. Move right along. Only 22 fake papers with amazing fake science and unreproducible experiments and besides, the main person involved has left. Everyone is innocent, except Professor Ridd who was uncollegiate.
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‘And the heat capacity of the oceans make them a massive solar battery.’
Clear and precise, that sentence will be useful over the next few years as we try to explain how the system works.
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‘That ocean heat gain is a mystery.’
During the 2005-2015 decade the PDO was negative and caused a hiatus in world temperatures. It appears to be an oceanic climate shift similar to 1976.
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Returning to the Rathore paper.
‘ … our results indicate that the impact of the internal variability for this decade has offset the impact of anthropogenic warming in the northern hemisphere oceans so that there has been no net ocean heat gain in the northern hemisphere.
‘In contrast, internal variability has amplified the southern hemisphere warming by shifting heat from the northern hemisphere to the southern hemisphere and adding to the anthropogenic warming there.
‘Detailed investigation of observed hemispheric asymmetry of the global OHC in 0–2000 m shows it is primarily confined to the 0–700 m layer. Indeed, it is the combination of anthropogenic climate change and this asymmetric mode of internal variability that provides the physical explanation for the observed enhanced warming of the Southern Ocean.’
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Geothermal activity along the tectonic plates.
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That was my thinking too, but we lack the data to prove it.
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Chris, you might find these articles interesting:
Undersea volcanoes:
https://www.iceagenow.info/category/volcanoes-leading-us-into-an-ice-age/submarine-volcanoes-more-important-than-we-realize/
Undersea Volcanic CO2 emissions:
https://www.principia-scientific.org/volcanic-carbon-dioxide.html/
Cheers.
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I’ll throw this in because I can.
‘The satellite record reveals that a gradual, decades-long overall increase in Antarctic sea ice extents reversed in 2014, with subsequent rates of decrease in 2014–2017 far exceeding the more widely publicized decay rates experienced in the Arctic. The rapid decreases reduced the Antarctic sea ice extents to their lowest values in the 40-y record, both on a yearly average basis (record low in 2017) and on a monthly basis (record low in February 2017).’ (Parkinson 2019)
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LOL. All fixed. Climate solved.
https://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_iqr_timeseries.png
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It would be more helpful to look at what transpired over the period after the strong La Nina (2010-12).
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2015/10/antarctic-sea-ice-at-its-2015-maximum/
Why did the PDO return to neutral?
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From Climate Impact Company 2018.
‘Yesterday the Mantua Pacific decadal oscillation (PDO) report for April 2018 was +0.11 which is neutral phase. During the past 9 months PDO has been uncharacteristically neutral following a sharp warm event in 2014-2016 and preceded by an equally impressive cool event in 2010-2012. The last time near neutral PDO index over a 9-month period occurred was more than 10 years ago.
‘Interestingly, the descent in the PDO index from one of the strongest positive phase events on record in 2014-2016 not reaching the cool phase implies that the long-term PDO climate may have indeed reversed to the warm cycle.
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Here’s the Wiki graph of all countries co2 emissions since 1970 or 1990, just take your pick.
If you add the USA + EU emissions together since 1970 you’ll note that the total is no higher today. Note that China, India and other countries emissions have soared over the last 20 to 30 years. And at least 1,000 new coal power stns to be built in the next 40 years.
The Biden donkey’s GND is just more fra-dulent nonsense, but I’m sure he doesn’t even understand any of this data. Certainly the Obama , Holdren donkeys didn’t understand it either. Dr Pielke jnr had to school that ADMIN about global fires, droughts etc yet never received an apology for his troubles. I wish Jo could permanently place this graph or something like it on her home page.
Of course the CSIRO tells us that the SH is a net co2 sink and population is about 800 mil of the Earth’s 7800 million. And the SH countries only emit about 7% of global emissions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions#/media/File:World_fossil_carbon_dioxide_emissions_six_top_countries_and_confederations.png
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“….net global carbon emissions to…” Whoa. Stop it. Stop it! What I was taught was this, AS A RULE, the atmospheres of the NH and SH, DO NOT MIX.
In the Inter Tropical Convergence Zone (ITCZ) at or near the equator the trade winds come together. With much convective activity (storms) the air rises to the Troposphere and then moves towards its originating Pole. It moves to the temperate regions where it descends.
With >90% of world population and industry, the NH was called the ‘dirty’ hemisphere. The SH was termed ‘clean’ because >80% was ocean. During the 60’s in the depths of the Cold War, here in SH we were in the safest place on the planet.
AGW theory dictates that NH should be very high in CO2 and therefore comparatively much hotter than SH. If the alarmists say, No, the CO2 is the same all over the world, then it proves that AGW Theory is totally wrong and cannot be used. Why on earth is Australia forced to play, at great expense, this fanciful fake game. We can make zero difference.
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Willis goes down the rabbit hole in search of increased downwelling.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/05/05/surface-response-to-increased-forcing/
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So he “believes” in downwelling radiation, reprimands those who attempt to correct his incorrect understanding of physics and claims that he is correct because there are hundreds of scientists who know it’s true.
Then he abuses the Stephan and Boltzmann equation to do a thermal balance on the Earth: simple stuff for a genius.
Let’s not forget, he’s got a degree in Psychology.
Wasn’t this story aired before, or was it someone else.
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Probably. but he has convinced me that CO2 doesn’t cause warming.
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Yes,
I appreciate that but don’t you remember the old saying.
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The blind leading ,, ,
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In the last couple of there was a post about Joe Biden telling the world they need to get to an 80% reduction in CO2 emissions by 2030 and zero emissions by 2050. As we know, the rich and powerful and presidents and their entourages are not going to change their carbon emitting lifestyles so to achieve zero emissions the rest will have to go carbon negative.
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Great fantasy, carbon negative. It’s the fraud which keeps the scam going. In case no one noticed, the graph of CO2 has not shown any signs of human intervention, even a total shutdown of cars, aircraft, cruise ships, public meetings and at least a third of a million windmills. Or even the massive Chinese building of coal fired power stations. No bushfires, volcanoes or other CO2 generating events. And the fact that the planet now has 7 Billion people instead of 1 billion in the same period is not mentioned, as if we do not breathe out CO2 like all living things.
The absurdity that humans control CO2 levels or even have any effect on CO2 levels is beyond precedent. Illogical, even absurd.
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And the idea that this tiny trace gas controls the world’s climate is past ridiculous.
In the old world of rational science things had to be proven to be true. No longer. In this Woke World where groupthink and emotion rule, it only has to be an idea pushed by the communist parties. The ones who call themselves socialist. Like the Nazis.
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I also object to the graphs of CO2 showing a boom in CO2 against times past. It presumes totally that pulses in CO2 are preserved in ice cores from thousands of years ago when resolution of 100 years would be impossible as the gases leach from one era to the next. If you accept that CO2 dating from ice cores needs to be averaged to account for leaching, there is nothing unusual about our CO2. It reacts near instantly to warming ocean surfaces. But such sudden changes are averaged to nothing in the ice record.
Science is abused when people do not assign error bars to data. Our current CO2 levels are just noise on the graph, averaged to nothing.
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Did the woke progressive movement suffer an ELE in the British elections?
Any insight from the Jonova community?
I’m behind the Rainbow Curtain in the former USA.
And Happy Birthingpersons Day.
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They certainly did; note the result in Hartlepool! In the council elections the Conservatives have made huge gains, Labour huge losses, Lib Dems some losses. The bad news is that the Greens gained a few and the wee cranky in Scotland is doing well.
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In the “olden days” of sailing ships Hartlepool was an important port and had ship building and repair facilities, and other industries.
In the port area today there is a statue of a monkey that was captured and hanged by the citizens who believed it was a French spy, because they could not understand its language.
The poor monkey was dressed in clothing because it was a French ship’s mascot that escaped while the ship was at a wharf.
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That’s horrible if true, and I doubt it. Anyway it shows what a low opinion some British had of French sailors, which is I suspect the joke.
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Ah Annie, you say it so beautifully.
Thanks.
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The Biden-Democrat plan to reduce CO2 emissions will achieve widespread economic pain, unemployment and increased poverty in the USA and probably elsewhere to, in countries silly enough to emulate the idea. It will also fail to reduce CO2 emissions in any worthwhile way. At no stage in the catastrophe will Biden or the Democrats notice that reducing CO2 has only a detrimental effect on life on earth and no noticeable or even measurable effect on temperature.
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“The Biden-Democrat plan to reduce CO2 emissions will achieve widespread economic pain, unemployment and increased poverty in the USA…”
That is not a bug in the program, that is a feature of the program.
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How Biden’s Agenda of Uncertainty Murdered Job Growth
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/07/nolte-how-bidens-agenda-uncertainty-murdered-job-growth/
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“Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen Says Economic Water is Not Always Lacking Dryness
May 7, 2021 | Sundance | 106 Comments
This obtuse explanation from Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen about the April jobs report is one for the record books. According to Yellen, the government handing people more free money than they would achieve with a working job is not a disincentive for employment.”
More on the smoke and mirrors here
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2021/05/07/treasury-secretary-janet-yellen-says-economic-water-is-not-always-lacking-dryness/
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I found this article in the bulletin of the atomic scientists regarding the origin of SARS-CoV-2 to be very informative. It is a long one …
Now if someone in the mainstream press would take an interest.
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Kevin, that is an excellent, balanced and thorough investigation of the facts of the case with no pre-judged conclusion. To anyone who hasn’t read it, you will not regret doing so. But you’ll need to set aside half an hour.
That’s two high-quality investigative reports in two days (the other being the ocean acidification one). What gives?
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Indeed. I found it refreshing to read an article about Covid in what is typically a left-leaning journal without any Trump derangement or exaggeration at all. The author’s four hurdles which any viable theory of origin must clear practically makes the case and was the best part of the article in my opinion.
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A very good article. Recommended.
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I am proud to say that due to high taxes and exploration restrictions on gas in Victoriastan I now use coal powered reverse cycle electric heating instead of gas because reverse cycle electric heating is now cheaper.
Not that anthropogenic CO2 matters to science realists (except in a positive way) but I am now generating more CO2 than ever thanks to this “green” policy.
I hope that terrifies warmists. Please do your bit of sacrifice to the earth and stop using fossil fuels.
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Key points:
A net 43,000 Australians have moved to regional areas in 2020
The statistics show people are also staying put in regional Queensland
Melbourne saw the largest exodus, likely due to the coronavirus pandemic
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More like fear of what the worse than incompetent Andrews government will come up with next.
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It would be good if they left their lack of general manners behind, and drove carefully within speed limits in towns.
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“and stop using fossil fuels.
More productive if they simply stopped breathing.
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FBI really want Nancy Pelosi’s laptop back .
https://www.theepochtimes.com/unsealed-warrant-confirms-fbi-raided-alaska-home-searching-for-pelosis-laptop_3806770.html?fbclid=IwAR2cLU0uXU6zGoN3k6kOXpAz9Gzq7eQfHAbHV67pC5NOxH6ifsDnLmKc7aQ
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Things that make the FBI jump out of bed:
• raiding lawyers (but only if they did work for Trump).
• tip-offs about Pelosi’s missing laptop.
• rope-handles used to open garage doors.
• rioting by Trump supporters.
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Things that make the FBI yawn and go back to sleep:
• rioting by Biden voters.
• Hunter’s laptop.
• allegations against Shaye Moss, Ruby Freeman and Ralph Jones.
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Is it really Nancy’s laptop?
She’s 80.
She has staff for everything.
Her political rhetoric (the very words emitted) is provided by staff.
Her and Joe opening laptops and remembering passwords … ?
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Tony Fauci is 80 too.
Vitamins?
Yoga?
Seems like a honcho at the National Institute of Health should let us peasants in on the secret.
We are paying for it.
Does Joe get a nap time every day? (Could be a recommendation from NIH … I believe in Science.)
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First search result:
Democrat House Quietly Paid Off Pakistani IT Worker at …
https://fraudscrookscriminals.com/2020/12/11/democrat-house-quietly-paid-off-pakistani-it-worker-at-center-of-2016-2017-investigation/
Sometimes working from his native Pakistan, Awan and his family team accessed the computers of some 40 Democrats, including those on the intelligence and foreign affairs committees. Without their consent Awan and his team stashed the Democrats’ data on a server controlled by Xavier Becerra, chair of the House Democratic Caucus. Capitol Police wanted a copy of the server but the one Awan …
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David,
that surprises me – here in NSW, Natural Gas much cheaper and we use Ducted Gas Central Heating during Winter – pretty cheap,
and have 2 Rheem Mains Water Pressure Gas Hot Water Systems – Optima installed in rear 2 storey extension in 1985 and Rheem Stellar 360 Gas Water Heater which replaced in original house in 2000, off peak Electric Tank System in Roof – again with 4 Adults and 3 Grandkids under 10, Gas is cheap,
As near Coast and NE Sea Breezes, no A/C in Summer, just lock 3 external screen doors and leave doors open for airflow through house.
Have replaced 15Kw 3 Phase Electric Spa Heater (Eletrcicty was cheaper than Gas 43 years ago, when Pool and Spa built) with RayPak P0167 on Natural Gas – Input 164 Mj/hr – Output – 36Kw and brings 5,500l Spa up to 40C in 1 to 2 Hrs (depending Summer or Winter)
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Oops Reply to David Maddison in #11
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Eco-anxiety
by Judith Curry
https://judithcurry.com/2021/05/06/eco-anxiety/
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This is excellent. I have forwarded a link to our family members.
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Filipino FM, Teddy Locsin Jr loses patience with china, but not quite diplomatically.
His twit must be unprecedented™. Should other leaders follow his example?
Read it @ https://www.newsweek.com/philippines-twitter-foreign-minsiter-1588214
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Probably not at the moment, a push leads to shove and we are sunk.
‘Amid the acrimony, trade between China and Australia has plummeted by 40 per cent for almost all industries. But iron ore, a vital component in the production of steel and key to China’s infrastructure spending spree to shore up the post-pandemic economic recovery, remains the only import that is still keeping the bilateral trade afloat.
“Neither side wants to use this card. We are basically holding each other’s neck,” said a diplomatic source who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.’ (SCMP)
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They called Robert Menzies “Pig Iron Bob” because we sold all our scrap iron to Japan, some of which came back, dropped on Darwin.
Will history repeat or only rhyme?
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Nonsense, el gordo.
You should know better.
Australia’s economy grew 3.1% last in the December 2020 quarter, marking the first time gross domestic product has expanded more than 3.0% for two consecutive terms in the 60-year history of the national accounts.
“What we’re seeing through the data and hearing from people on the ground is that for many of the commodities that would normally sell into China, if they’re not able to sell into China, they’re actually able to look at and move into other markets,” Hunter said. “So you are getting trade dispersion effects rather than a complete collapse in those flows.”
Hunter added that China has a “fairly limited” ability to find other sources for key commodities that Australia supplies as the dominant global player. “Iron ore is the best example of that,” she said, since Australia produces 60% of seaborne iron ore exports.
https://fintechzoom.com/fintech_news_scott-morrison/scott-morrison-australias-gdp-bounce-defies-chinas-trade-pressure/
China is in no position to continue on with its “wolf warrior” façade. It’s got people to feed. It’s got an aging population. It’s got rising labour costs. It’s got massive inbuilt inefficiencies – economic, social and environmental. And, it’s got the most unsustainable political system ever devised by mankind.
China is Ovis aries in Canis lupis clothing.
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All good points, but we are dealing with a totalitarian fascist dictatorship which holds the mandate of heaven. Its a completely different political culture and will require patience and perseverance to settle our differences amicably.
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Ron De Santis gave Joe Biden the exact same reply. Sometimes you just have to tell people clearly and concisely so there is no misunderstanding.
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I keep hearing about how in Australia’s last devastating bushfires “3 billion animals” were killed or injured. That makes no sense to me unless they are also counting microbes.
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There is no possible way anyone can know the toll.
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Plenty of chances there to replay the vote counter’s dilemma in “How to win an election = or at least not lose by much”
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They just guessed, inspection of the rapidly recovering bushland has shown lots of animals ‘that shouldn’t be there’ are actually thriving.
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My guess is that they included an estimate of the flies and mosquitos etc.
Cheers
Dave B
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But David, UN Agenda 21 – Sustainability is the basis for establishing National Parks preserved for future generations they claim, and managed by National Parks & Wildlife Services.
NP&WS must be managing the lands and forests to avoid wild fires that kill native animals and any other life forms in their way?
sarc.
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Of course.
Microbes Lives Matter.
Microbes have equal status with Koalas.
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Why did I expect you to say ‘Microbes have equal status to Human Beings’? Hmmm?
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Should have added a sarc and a winking smiley face KK!
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Annie
Don’t you trust most of the regulars to do that for you?
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Yes, certainly, but there might be visitors or trolls that don’t!
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Annie,
It’s an Australian thing. We get it.
The rest of the unwoke world will learn.
The woke world already understand, but cannot accept that they do.
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Study done by the University of Texas in 2012 on the 4 types of COVID vaccines (at that time).
Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus
Chien-Te Tseng,Elena Sbrana,Naoko Iwata-Yoshikawa,Patrick C. Newman,Tania Garron,Robert L. Atmar,Clarence J. Peters,Robert B. Couch
Published: April 20, 2012https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0035421
Conclusions
These SARS-CoV vaccines all induced antibody and protection against infection with SARS-CoV. However, challenge of mice given any of the vaccines led to occurrence of Th2-type immunopathology suggesting hypersensitivity to SARS-CoV components was induced. Caution in proceeding to application of a SARS-CoV vaccine in humans is indicated.
Thus, concern for safety of administering SARS-CoV vaccines to humans became an early concern in vaccine development.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0035421#amendment-0
Reuters “fact checkers” un-substantiated view, no links, just hearsay.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-mice-idUSKBN2A22UW
Can’t wait for my turn.
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In case you fail to notice, that was 2012, a vaccine for SARS-COVID (1).
Funded by, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. NIAID a Dr Fauci operation.
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Ocean Acidification Effects Research in Doubt
News Report by Kip Hansen – 7 May 2021
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/05/07/ocean-acidification-effects-research-in-doubt/
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Smells a bit fishy.
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A great panic meme, we know is not possible.but very effective
with the scientific illiterate. to prove the point
https://www.rebelnews.com/mild_bushfire_season_australia?utm_campaign=ay_climate_5_7_21&utm_medium=email&utm_source=therebel
“Ocean Acidification”
Unlike like a lot of scientific research,many organisms/animal, adjust to extreme conditions,one example,living around,thermal vents on the ocean floor, with extreme temperature ranges.
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See the full article by Martin Enserink in sciencemag.org dated May 6 2021
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I wonder what JCUs credibility is on the world stage these days?
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Breaking news on Covid.
It’s not a respiratory disease but is in fact vascular which explains what has been seen to date.
The ramifications for the so called vaccine had best be read by yourselves.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-07-salk-institute-reveals-the-covid-spike-protein-causing-deadly-blood-clots.html
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Hi guys,
Haven’t commented here for yonks although I’ve looked in from time to time. Well…hasn’t this Covid changed the world. I want to relate here my experience of suffering from Covid.
I and four others contracted the virus on one site. For me, it started with a dry cough. A kind of itch in the throat. Around ten days later, I woke to a constricting cough that produced a clear, thickish mucus. I felt like I was drowning!
I was rushed to hospital under oxygen. About ten days later I was released. I had lost my sense of taste and smell. Since I have recovered those senses. The difference is my sense of smell has been supercharged. My lungs are shot. I could not walk up a set of stairs without gasping for air. I completely lost my fitness and to this day can not put on weight. I am now 59 Kg, sopping wet with a beer in my hand.
Through cardio exercise I have recovered, but not fit as I was. Have had a few relapses when I coughed up blood, my lungs are a moonscape! Sh#t happens. I won’t be getting the vaccinations…I will rely on my antibodies.
If they fail, such is life.
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Have you tried turning off the TV
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Very sorry to hear that you had such a nasty dose Scaper, with ongoing problems that sound pretty unpleasant too.
I have seen you make the odd comment in The Australian, unless someone else has half-inched your name!
Look after yourself as best you can.
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Get well soon and thanks for the front line report.
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Glad you’re still with us scaper, did your test reveal what strain of covid it was or how much of a dose you got?
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It was type A and my first viral load test was high.
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Thank you scaper,
Your report counteracts my view that most Covid is fairly benign. You have been very sick and are still suffering.
Two things:
1. Did you try any of the remedies discussed here on the blog, during the early stages of the illness, eg Vit C and Vit D, hydoxychloroquine and or ivermectin, antibiotics? (Zelenko protocol?)
2. The vaccine could be contraindicated in previously infected people. The AZ vaccine instructs your cells to make spike protein. If you already have a primed immune system I would be concerned about an over reaction leading to potential severe effects.
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Sorry to hear that Scaper, your description sounds horrible , however the clear thickish mucus is intriguing . We have known since the industrial revolution that fresh and sunshine is the best medication for lung conditions, so take your beer outside and enjoy the sun while it lasts.
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That’s terrible Scaper I hope you get back to where you were with your health.
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Perhaps one of the most common misconceptions when it comes to electrical power generation is that coal fired power is not all that great, because it cannot ramp up and down.
Well, it actually does ramp up and down, and on a daily basis as well, but the main part of all that is that it does not need to ramp up and down ….. on the SHORT notice basis that we are told, because it’s never the case that it needs to do that.
So, let me show you how it does ramp up and down.
I have specifically selected this first image shown at this link, not to cherry pick, but to show you what I mean. Now, while this image is taken from 10 July 2014, just seven years back, that’s as far back as I can show you exactly with an image, and I selected this one because it shows that coal fired power and the total are a similar shape, as they are in the cooler Months, Winter.
However, when I did my electrical trade training in the late 60s, early 70s, those Load Curves were exactly the same as they look in 2014, and as they look now. It was explained (when I did that trade training) that the power being generated could only equal the power being consumed, minus the smallest of percentages for losses. The power being generated was supplied by those ‘big’ power plants, because in those days they did not need to differentiate between types of power plants. The Load Curves I was shown during training for the trade look the same then as they do now.
Okay, this image from 2014.
Look first at the upper black line. That’s power being generated, the same as power being consumed.
It starts at Midnight, heads down to the low point around 4AM, rises to the morning peak, then falls across the afternoon, and then rises to an even higher point at the evening peak, around 6PM to 6.3PM, same every day of the year, just seen better with this cooler Months Load Curve image. It’s the same virtually every day, just those peaks change a little, but the up and down is the same. At no time is there a ….. LARGE change in that black line. It’s (relatively) smooth down, up, down, up, and then back down. There are no major instantaneous rises in power of a large power usage.
So, all that coal fire power needs to do is to follow that upper black line, the Load, hence Load Following.
And as you can see from that same image from 2014, coal fired power does just that.
At Midnight, it’s 16,200MW. At the low point, 4AM, its 13,400MW. At the breakfast peak, it’s 18,200MW. In the mid afternoon, it’s 16,600MW. At the evening peak, it’s 19,900MW, and then slowly back down, past Midnight again to the next early morning low.
It does this every day, all day.
That’s a ramping down of 6,400MW from the earlier evening peak, a ramping up of 4,800MW, a ramping down of 1,600MW, and then a ramping up of 3,300MW, and then back down.
So, coal fired power does indeed ramp up and down, all day every day. It does that slowly, at a regulated pace, because that’s all it HAS TO DO, follow the load. Those daily Load curves, the upper black line, vary so little on a daily basis, that it’s known exactly what they have to do.
Now, for comparison, this is the image at this link for the Load Curve from two days back. While that upper line looks a little different, (that difference is in the middle of the day, and the addition of rooftop solar power) note that coal fired power is still doing the same, ramping down and up, still following the load.
Coal fired power starts at Midnight at 16,000MW. At the 4AM low point, it’s 13,900MW. At the breakfast peak, it’s 17,500MW. In the mid afternoon, it’s 14,000MW. At the evening Peak, it’s 17,700MW, and then heads back toward the next 4AM low point.
So, it’s still ramping down and up, etc across the day.
While the numbers are basically similar, the change is that now coal fired power does not need to be as high in the mid afternoon, because the power it once delivered into that Residential sector is now being supplied, in part, by rooftop solar, but even then, the changes in coal fired power are still up in the region of 4,000MW, up and down.
I couldn’t show you the same day for each image, because we are still two Months away from that date this year, but I will add this. Coal fired power will be around that same peak on that day than it was seven years back.
Tony.
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TonyfromOz,
Thanks for this post. It may come in handy soon. Let me relate for just a moment something I found by accident. The public service commission (PSC) in our state wondered if they should alter or clarify definitions of terms like “intermittant” or “dispatchable”. They asked for public comment about 9 months ago, and the comment period is long over. I discovered the comments online a few days ago.
The Sierra club weighed-in, and reading their commentary is simply bizarre. They have stated that because a coal fired plant cannot be ramped up and down quickly they should not be considered dispatchable. The pertinent part reads as follows.
I read this as an attempt to reverse the idea of dispatchability and define wind as more dispatchable than fossil fuel plants because it doesn’t have large startup costs. The particular target is coal. This issue is going to arise again I am sure.
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Last night was another example of the failure of the unreliable, non dispatchable electricity supplies that are supposed to be our future.
At 6pm, solar delivered 0.1% of demand, wind 3.5%, coal 67% (that’s 16 GW, up from 12 GW at midday), gas 14% (up from 3% at midday), and hydro 15% (up from 4% at midday).
So despite over 12 GW of solar and 8 GW of wind nameplate capacity, they delivered a pathetic 0.85 GW when the evening peak demand occurred.
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What Robber mentions above is what is meant by dispatchable power.
As those Load Curves are so stable in their shape, the grid controllers know what is coming and, more importantly, WHEN it is coming.
Those grid controllers know that coal fired power is ramping up already, as it always does. They also know that hydro is ramping up. again, as it always does.
All they need then to reach that evening peak is reliable deliverers of power, a set amount for when it is needed. Then, if the peak looks like being larger, then, again, they can call on those other reliable deliverers of power to add in their small amounts to top it up. Then it’s just a tweak here and there, adding more if needed, the smaller providers, and then, as the peak passes, those ones ‘at the top’ of the curve slowly drop off as power consumption falls, and as the evening wears on, then coal fired power also ramps back, ready to start all over again, at around 4AM.
That can be graphically shown with this image at this link.
This is the Load Curve for power generation/consumption for the same day as in the earlier Comments I made, 06May2021, just three days ago now.
It shows the layering on of generated power for when it is needed, at that evening peak, virtually the same time every day of the year, between 6PM and 6.30PM.
The Base upon which everything else is layered is coal fired power, the grey and the brownish colours shown here, the vast bulk of the generated power. Hydro is blue, natural gas is purple, and the smaller ones, ticked in legend under the graph are added as they are needed, and I have not included the other boxes, as they are too small to even show up on the graph
The layering of colours here is not indicative of WHEN they are added, just shown on the graph to best fit that graph.
You can see that they are added as needed for the main evening peak, and to a lesser extent, that morning peak, only needed for an hour or two at each peak.
That is what Dispatchable power is ….. the ability for a grid controller to have those plants ready when needed to deliver the required amount of power, when needed.
Or as I mentioned in the earlier Comment, the ability of a grid controller to be able to place a call and tell the person in control of that plant to ‘fire it up, we need the power now.’
None of those calls get placed to wind or solar power plants, and when was the last time an owner of a rooftop solar installation got a cal from the grid telling them to deliver more power.
Grid controllers know all of this.
All of the rest is just green bovine waste.
Tony.
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James Cook University in hot water over claims of fish fraud! Graham Lloyd, The Australian.
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And on Not A lot of People know That.
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2021/05/07/does-ocean-acidification-alter-fish-behavior-fraud-allegations-create-a-sea-of-doubt/
The link by MrGrimNasty is very instructive.
May 7, 2021 6:01 pm
A reminder of the earlier story hinting that all was not well.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/09/can-you-spot-duplicates-critics-say-these-photos-lionfish-point-fraud
A dead fish rots from the head down; could not be more appropriate.
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Okay, while we can see that coal fired power ramps on that daily basis, this image at this link shows the Hydro total for that same day, two days ago. Again you can see that hydro also follows the load, and while a smaller total generated power, it also ramps up and down, in a manner similar to coal fired power.
Now, if there is an occasion when there is a sudden change in power generation, it is usually on the rare occasion when a coal fired Unit goes off line, or, as is now more frequently happening, the sudden losses of 500MW to up to 1200MW in wind generation.
Two things happen then, pretty much at the moment it happens. Two phone calls are made. The first is to one of the two big hydro plants, Tumut Three, or Murray One and Two. The call tells them to ‘open up the races’ and start up one, two or more of the Hydro turbines. These are the fastest to come on line delivering power, and within five to ten minutes, they can be delivering 400MW to 1000MW. The second call is to a natural gas fired OCGT in the vicinity of the coal fired Unit or the wind plants, most of those in Victoria, or SouthAus. That call tells them to start up their turbine. It takes a little longer to fire these Units up, but they are the second fastest.
Usually, as soon as that OCGT is on line, then the hydro Units shut down again.
So those power losses, the large ones, 500MW or more, are quite readily covered.
As you can see from those upper black lines the rises and falls are relatively smooth in nature, so coal fired power only needs to ramp down and up slowly ….. because that’s all it needs to do.
Okay, if you still have that second image open, the coal fired one for two days ago, (06May2021) you’ll see the spikes on that upper black line, total power generation.
Those spikes are the addition of rooftop solar, layered onto the total generation.
While overall power generation is recorded (and shown) on a five minute basis, the nature of that Curve is relatively smooth.
However, with rooftop solar power, it is not recorded with accuracy, well, not really recorded at all. So all the AEMO does is to give its best guess on the total, and that is only recorded on a half hourly basis. That can be shown with this image, showing just Rooftop Solar Power, and as you can see, it ‘flat lines’ from one total till the next, half an hour later.
Now, when that rooftop solar total is layered onto the overall black line, it shows those spikes at each half hour mark, hence the appearance of the spiky nature of that Load Curve at the start and end of daily rooftop power generation.
Tony.
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Tony, I noticed a new (to me) word appeared the other day in an article on ‘unreliable’ power, as well as synchronous generation (steam and gas turbine driven) we now have asynchronous generation, a lot of energy is stored in the massive rotating (3000 rpm) turbine and rotor assemblies, but alas, inverters have no rotating inertia, they are just electronic assemblies, and this makes them vulnerable to frequency deviations which are now managed by fossil plants, so what are they going to do when the last fossil unit goes dark.
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Rooftop solar, the simplest and best known inverter output are all tuned to run a little slower than 50 Hz but a synchronising pulse from developed from the grid mains catches it up that fraction of a second so it maintains perfect sync with the grid AS IT MUST. Left to their own device they would be close but “asynchronous”.
Remember your old CRT TV? Your horizontal and vertical sync worked just like that. In that case there were sync pulses included in the received signal. Your solar inverter manages without such pulses but electronics has advanced a long way and left me behind.
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rely on fairy dust and unicorn farts
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Please explain the logic in this: Shop strictly enforcing the registration rule. Provides a pen that everyone uses. That pen is a common contamination point. If the Wu Flu was highly contagious, which it isn’t, that pen would spread the Wu Flu to everyone – it would be the most major and fundamental contamination point by far. Totally bonkers.
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‘… If the Wu Flu was highly contagious, which it isn’t …’
That is truly weird, I suppose you’re one of those who think the Spanish Flu started in Kansas?
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I’m just going by the maths – the stats. Anyway please explain to me why a common contamination point that everyone touches is being used and no one has any problem with that.
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It should be enforcing tbe hand sanitisation rule. The pen problem might be less of a worry if it did.
We see lots of people, especially those up from the city, rush into our local supermarket without bothering. They then are handling the food others want to buy in clean condition…yuk.
I still give the shopping trolleys a good clean too; too many children are allowed to sit or stand in them, with street-dirty shoes and probably not very clean backsides, judging by the state of public loos. More yuk.
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What hand sanitisation? Most shops don’t provide that facility. If you don’t want to touch the pen directly then you have to ask for a hand sanitiser. As I say: It’s totally bonkers, and it’s not the only thing by far that is totally bonkers. I will await the enquiries – in a few years.
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I always carry a small bottle of hand sanitiser when I’m out. How difficult is that?
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I carry my own pen.
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‘What hand sanitisation?’
Most public areas in Australia, like restaurants, supermarkets and shops, have sanitises for their customers.
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You appear to have a bee in your bonnet on the topic. Its only ever in force when community transmission is low. Most of the States appear to be pushing for app based QR logging, so that incompetent government IT can be used instead of incompetent government paper shuffling. Just moving the deck chairs.
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Fight BACK Better.
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James Cook University in hot water over claims of fish fraud
Graham Lloyd The Australian May 8, 2021
An international scandal has erupted over claims of scientific fraud involving 22 papers linked to James Cook University’s prestigious Centre of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies. The Australian Research Council, the US National Science Foundation and JCU have been asked to investigate the allegations detailed in an article published in Science Magazine on Friday. The article, which was supported by the international Science Fund for Investigative Reporting, is the culmination of years of research and contested claims over how fish behaviour is changed by rising levels of carbon dioxide in the oceans.
A team of researchers claim to have evidence of manipulation in publicly available raw data files for two papers, one published in Science, the other in Nature Climate Change, combined with remarkably large and “statistically impossible” effects from CO2 reported in many of the other papers.
The two scientists at the heart of the claims against them are Philip Munday from JCU and US biologist Danielle Dixson, who obtained her PhD under Professor Munday’s supervision.
The charge against their work is being marshalled by fish physiologist Timothy Clark of Deakin University in Geelong and Fredrik Jutfelt of the Norwegian University of Science and Technology.
According to Science, Professor Munday no longer works at JCU for reasons unrelated to the scandal and has called the allegations “abhorrent” and “slanderous”.
Professor Clark said he had initially considered the Munday findings to be “some of the most phenomenal findings in the whole discipline of biology”. But when he tried to replicate them he could not get the same results. There has been intense debate over whether the comparable tests had been adequately conducted.
Dr Munday had noted that 85 papers, with more than 180 co-authors from more than 90 institutions, have by now reported effects from elevated CO2. But of those 85 papers, 43 were co-authored by Dr Munday and studies that did report an effect were not blinded, so researchers knew which fish had been exposed to higher levels of CO2, opening the way for unconscious bias.
The Science article says that the reported effects of CO2 on fish behaviour and ecology have seemed to fade as the years passed.
Analysis of research shows the field is experiencing a strong “decline effect”, a phenomenon where, after dramatic initial findings, reported effects become smaller and smaller, the magazine said.
JCU has been at the centre of scandal over the treatment of former marine scientist Peter Ridd, who has repeatedly called for a rigorous process of quality assurance on research produced by Australia’s peak coral reef organisations.
Dr Ridd said the research council had a fiduciary duty to investigate because it was responsible for a $1bn a year in research funding.
“Most of the time you cannot demonstrate it is fraud, all you can do is say we tried to do the experiment again and eight out of eight times it didn’t work, but that is not proof,” he told The Weekend Australian. Dr Ridd said he believed that scientists questioning the fish behaviour work had got close to demonstrating fraud “but I think it doesn’t quite get there”.
“It could just be really, really sloppy work,” he said.
The ARC said allegations of wrongdoing were referred to the appropriate university for investigation.
A JCU spokesman said the allegations had been investigated under JCU’s Code for the Responsible Conduct of Research.
The investigation recommended the matter be dismissed and the findings communicated to the ARC.
1/ James Cook University researcher Philip Munday
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See the full article by Martin Enserink in sciencemag.org dated May 6 2021
See also 18 above.
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It is interesting that Real Scientists, calculated that the odds of tge probability, that the Fake Scientists who did the ocean acidification simulation ‘experiments’ ….. got fake/lying results by chance, is 0 in 10,000.
A 0 ‘chance’ in 10,0000 that science results were not fabricated/fake is scientifically, similar to 0 in 1 million or 0 in billion.
Numbers, equations, graphs, and computer simulations (and other sciency output) do not help ‘solve’ problems if those doing the work have agendas. Fake science/agenda explains how the IPCC got the Bern equation.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/analysis-challenges-slew-studies-claiming-ocean-acidification-alter-fish-behavior
“Timothy Clark, the first author on the Nature paper and a marine scientist at Deakin University, Geelong, in Australia, says he initially set out to probe the physiological mechanisms behind those behavior changes.
But after he failed to reproduce the changes—let alone explain them—he invited other scientists to set up a systematic replication attempt. It focused on three reported effects of acidified waters: making reef fish prone to swim toward their predators’ chemical cues rather than fleeing them, increasing their activity, and altering the fish’s tendency to favor either their left or right sides in some behaviors.
The researchers didn’t seek to repeat each previous experiment one for one, but Clark estimates the entire effort covers the research reported in at least 20 studies.
Overall, the group reports, exposing fish to seawater with acidification levels predicted for the end of the century had “negligible” effects on all three behaviors.
The Nature paper also reports the results of a statistical analysis called a bootstrapping simulation, designed to calculate the probability that Munday and co-authors could have found the striking data on chemical signal preference presented in seven papers. The authors say the odds are exceedingly low: “0 in 10,000,” as they put it.”
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Using bootstrapping it is possible to get 0 results out of 10000 attempts. It should be reported as p<0.00001 (I think that is the correct number of zeros), since you can't know the outcome if you add an order of magnitude more tests (ie 30-100,000)
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Meet Sun Guangxin, richest man in Xinjiang
https://balance10.blogspot.com/2021/05/meet-sun-guangxin-richest-man-in.html
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Don’t worry about me, guys. I’m a tough nut that is hard to crack. Yes Annie, that is me at The Australian. Still fighting the scam. How’s that Silly Filly? Couldn’t cut it here and it seems he can’t get much traction there.
The moderators are tough to get my comments through…a sign of the times. I hope you guys are doing well. Thanks.
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[I’m not sure the evil auto mod has taken a shine to you Scaper but I will keep an eye out .]AD
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Good to here you are still going.
I think SillyFilly is really an old nag, and yes, she doesn’t seem so evident. Perhaps she is downhearted by the behaviour of her Premier.
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Yes, The Australian comment reviewers seek quick on the reject button.
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Yes, the neighing nag still turns up regularly at The Australian.
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Hey scaper I had a problem going into continuous mod$#ation after a short break from commenting, registering on Jo’s site and staying signed in seemed to work or maybe the filter has to establish an algorithm for my email?
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Enoch Root put this up on the previous open thread and Graham Lloyd (Oz) is running the story.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/05/does-ocean-acidification-alter-fish-behavior-fraud-allegations-create-sea-doubt
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The CDC are changing how breakthrough covid cases are reported to make the vaccines appear more effective than they are.
‘For cases with a known RT-PCR cycle threshold (Ct) value, submit only specimens with Ct value ≤28 to CDC for sequencing.’
‘In the coming weeks, CDC will transition from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only vaccine breakthrough infections that result in hospitalization or death.’
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html
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I think that means
– they only want to be informed about test results taken with a RT-PCR Ct of less than 28. Test results with a Ct of above 28, which are more likely to indicate
-Yes, virus is detected-
are to be ignored.
There you have it,
” This is what we want to see – send us that data. “
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Baby sitting the furry grandchild for a few days while the owners are away at Wonnangatta, the mutt is half Lab and half ? But last week got into the sons pantry and devoured a full packet of cous cous and a kilo of sugar (all it could reach) .
We just discovered it has a kryptonite- Broccoli which makes sense it’s also green .
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Some dogs are pure garbage disposals while others have to be on strict diets, sister had a blue heeler bull terrier cross that inhaled an un-watched kilo of raw sausages in seconds at a BBQ and looked for more, another party he cleaned up an entire pavlova, a cheese and crackers platter and a split beer on the concrete before having a nap.
The worst was the smell when he dropped his guts after the diabolical combinations were digested.
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The problem with that dog was not his appetite but his discipline.
Don’t kick the dog, kick the owner.
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Daughter’s rescue yellow lab was nicknamed ‘old garbage guts’ by us. Would eat anything and lived to a remarkable old age. He could easily catch and eat a rabbit. He’s now buried not far from our house.
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Most Labs and Lab crosses are heavily food focused and food motivated.
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One of our sons once said that Labs have an IQ of 2 until food is in the offing, when it leaps up to 140!
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Aunty Pravda’s rolling news feed of unacceptable articles for the 8th May – https://thepointman.wordpress.com/rolling-headlines/
Pointman
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Wind “farms” supply on the East Coast are in the doldrums again.
At 10.15pm tonight they are producing 515 MW. (MWh).
Queensland 111 MW, NSW 226 MW, Vict. 62, Tassie 85 MW and South Aus 31 MW.
That is 2.48% of the DEMAND of 20,776 MW.
And, we thought it couldn’t get any worse than that Wednesday a couple of weeks ago.
Totally reliable, that’s for sure, eh.
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Quite surprisingly, there has been no mention here at Jo’s site (My mention will be brief on this occasion), that i can see in my regular visits here, about Geert Vanden Bossche, a vaccinologist with a list of qualifications and experience as long as an arm. His experience and some of his concerns is/are quite overwhelming.
Vanden Bossche, Geert / Curriculum vitae1Vanden Bossche, Geert/ Curriculum Vitae
One of many video’s (below) where he talks about his concerns regarding ‘the vaccine’ and many other aspects which quite honestly do take some time to absorb and assimilate so that one can come to ones own conclusion. In my case, i have been studying his papers, mostly found on his own web site for about one month now https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
Interestingly/coincidently, i can speak and read Italian where i became aware of another who has some similar conclusions to those of Geert’s and his name is Pietro Luigi Garavelli. He is not as highly qualified as Geert however reasoning is just as compelling, although not as detailed.
Here is an interview with Geert and Bret Weinstein although there others with interviewers with excellent qualifications themselves.
“DarkHorse Podcast with Geert Vanden Bossche & Bret Weinstein”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyAovuUxro
“Covid. Pietro Luigi Garavelli: “Chiudere la società e la vita a tratti non ha davvero senso”
From: https://www.theitaliantribune.it/covid-pietro-luigi-garavelli-chiudere-la-societa-e-la-vita-a-tratti-non-ha-davvero-senso/
“”In questa situazione, a non essere normale è una cosa che si impara al primo anno di specializzazione. Ovvero, non si vaccina mai durante una epidemia. Perché il virus reagirà mutando, producendo varianti” (The italian text is saying somewhat, in this situation which is not normal, it is something that is learnt in the first year of specialisation. Never vaccinate during and epidemic. The virus reacts by mutating producing variants.)
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For consideration over breakfast – any comments on the rigorousness of this argument?
About livestock and methane farts and global warming:
Grass grows by absorbing CO2 from the atmosphere via photosynthesis.
Livestock eat the grass, digest it, convert it to sugars and use that to grow meat and fat, make manure and run about.
Some of the grass ends up being converted to methane during digestion which gets belched and farted out into the atmosphere, where it is soon degraded and converted into CO2, but far less CO2 than originally went into the grass. This atmospheric CO2 is soon snapped up by CO2 starved grass and plants, and eaten by livestock, and so on.
Nett result, there is less CO2 in the atmosphere, as some has been sequestered into meat and fat for us to eat, or hides and fibre for us to wear. Some of the “carbon” gets sequestered into the soil as manure.
Thus livestock ACTUALLY reduces atmospheric CO2, or GHGs, and thus has a beneficial effect on reducing global warming! (If any).
Further..
It is said that each Methane MOLECULE has 25 times the radiation absorption potential of a carbon dioxide molecule. This MAY be true for each molecule but as CO2 is 400 ppm in the atmosphere and CH4 is 2 ppm, or 200 times less than CO2, this larger capacity of Methane to absorb energy pales into insignificance in the atmosphere.
When a GHG molecule absorbs energy it increases its vibration. It has gone from its ground state to a vibrational excited state. Only specific amounts of energy can be absorbed, and only from specific frequencies for that molecule.
When radiation is absorbed by GHGs, there is a transition from a low energy state to a higher energy state, until the energy is reradiated in all directions and the energy state returns to normal.
Different molecular arrangements have different abilities to absorb Infrared Radiation (IR) frequencies and in different amounts. The most abundant gas molecules in the atmosphere, N2 and O2, are not able to absorb this IR energy and it passes through them and out into space.
Carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, chlorofluorocarbons, and certain other gases absorb IR radiation from the Earth’s surface and re-emit shortly after, in all directions what has not been passed on to other molecules by collision (conduction).
The portion that is directed back towards the earth cannot cause an increase in temperature of the Earth as the Second Law of Thermodynamics states clearly that a cooler body cannot heat a warmer one, so the only effect is to retain, for a brief time, the IR absorbed before re-radiates and it finds its way eventually to outer space.
Methane in Earth’s atmosphere is naturally checked by methane’s reaction with a molecule known as the hydroxyl radical, a hydrogen-oxygen molecule formed when single oxygen atoms react with water vapour, and the methane is converted to CO2. The atmosphere, and more precisely the troposphere, is the largest sink for methane. Methane in the troposphere reacts with hydroxyl (OH) radicals, forming mainly water and carbon dioxide.
Some 90% of methane is ultimately destroyed, or oxidised, in the lower atmosphere when it reacts with hydroxyl radicals. The rest is destroyed in the higher atmosphere and in soils.
Consider the following diagram,
(Didn’t come but you can easily look it up – (Atmospheric absorption bands)
From this diagram it can be seen that Methane has absorption wavelengths at about 3 and 8 micron. Looking at the spectra for Water Vapour it can be seen that at both 3 and 8 micron water vapour is strongly absorbing and as there is so much more water than Methane in the atmosphere (4%, or 40,000 ppm versus 2 ppm) that there is precious little (or none) radiation left at those frequencies for Methane to cause an increase in absorption. Its effect is so small it is insignificant.
A similar effect occurs with CO2 at 15 micron where both H2O and CO2 have absorbed all the IR at that wavelength, and as H2O is 100 times more abundant than CO2 more CO2 has no effect.
Comments appreciated.
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Good info Don.
Essentially the greenhouse theory is a laboratory phenomenon with primary relevance in two locations; the first 30 metres above ground level and then at about 11,000 metres.
If there was no IR pickup by so called greenhouse effect in that first 30 metres then the primary “pick up mechanism”; conduction, would take care of it. Then above 11 km the ggs release let go and the Earth is cooled.
PV = nRT rulz.
The global warming mechanism is quantitatively irrelevant even IF it was real, and it’s Not.
KK
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Ping.
Small but may help keep the blog going.
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Inspired by Richard’s comment, here’s a blast from the past;
May 27, 2019 at 1:01 pm
KinkyKeith
February 17, 2018 at 9:20 pm
The illusion of debate is a good title to prompt assessment of the Man Made Global Warming Meme.
There is only one truth that needs to be substantiated and that should be obvious, however the waters have been muddied so much using irrelevant factors that most of the public and all of the politicians just don’t know.
The basic concept of CAGW, put out by the warming community, is that CO2 is a heat trapping gas.
The whole scam is based on one mechanism: the idea that carbon dioxide is a heat trapping, “greenhouse” gas.
I have said that twice for a reason: it is the core concept on which CAGW stands or falls.
IT IS NOT A HEAT TRAPPING GAS and must resolve to equilibrate with gases surrounding it: Instantly.
It is known and accepted by all scientists with basic university degrees, there is no mechanism by which CO2 can adversely affect the atmospheric temperature.
Why has this point never been examined in court?
We should no longer debate the warmer deliberations because we need to go to the core of the issue: that CO2 cannot act in the way they claim.
This is the scientific truth of the matter.
There never was and never will be any human caused Global Warming.
We need to start attacking this point.
Real science is quite clear: CO2 is NOT a heat trapping gas any more than any other gas and cannot be responsible for changes in Earth’s atmospheric temperature.
All other debate around global warming is irrelevant, pointless and deceitful when this fact is ignored.
Why is this fact not used as the basis of a court action against all of the “misdirection” of public funds justified by association with the CAGW scam.
Warmer advocats have avoided facing the question on the basic mechanism by endlessly debating non issues and have given the Illusion of Debate while hiding from the
real science.
KK
http://joannenova.com.au/2018/02/the-illusion-of-debate-a-history-of-the-climate-issue-part-2-2009-2011/#comment-1983276
Link to first comment.
https://joannenova.com.au/2019/05/weekend-unthreaded-261/#comment-2142328
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KK, I have always wondered why someone has not taken legal action against all the untruths regarding Global non Warming. Then I saw what the legal system in the US did to attempts to investigate the election and perhaps I understood. We are STUFT!!!
Cheers Don
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The trick is that “greenhouses” work best when sheeted with GLASS.
This is because glass allows the transmission of ultraviolet light which is essential to the photosynthesis in the enclose plants.
Why not “plastic panels? most, if not all suitable plastics, like poly-carbonates, for instance, have EXTREMELY poor transmission of UV. This was also illustrated to me in my younger days of making my own printed circuit boards. Glass covers over the sensitized board and art-wok: excellent results. A new piece of “perspex”? Zilch, nada, etc.
However, what makes a greenhouse “warm” is the subsequent Infra-Red light (HEAT)bouncing around inside because the longer wavelength is less transmissible back out through the glass.
This planet is not inside a glass bubble. The mass of the CO2 molecule, as compared to Nitrogen and Oxygen, means that almost all of it in the atmosphere is found closer to the surface.
This is part of the reason there is such a phenomena as the “tree-line”. Not many trees above the tree-line because it is “cold” and there is limited CO2 for photosynthesis.
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Don A:
Einstein pointed out that any excited CO2 molecule would make kinetic contact with about a thousand other molecules in the time it took for it to radiate.
That at ground level. The result is that nitrogen, oxygen (and argon) would all gain energy. That is the atmosphere would contain ALL gases at around the same temperature instead of the IPCC idea that “CO2 traps heat”, in which case we would have an atmosphere consisting of (non radiating) gases at 253K and CO2 at 590K (ignoring the effect of water vapour).
An idea, at the top of the troposphere the incoming solar radiation is around 27% infra-red. If CO2 is such a strong absorber/radiator of IR then it would absorb some of that and radiate it back into space. A rise in the level of CO2 would mean more radiation into space (and less IR warming the Earth) so CO2 has some cooling effect. Ties in with NASA’s claim that satellite measurements of the radiation frequencies of CO2 are rising.
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R O 3 Exact, so disappointing that nothing can be done.
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JCU should be closed. This place is an academic joke.
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How long have they been sucking up tax dollars to ‘study’ the reef and just what do they know about it, all we get from them is BS, loads of it.
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Fantasy Versus Reality In Woke-Land
From The Manhattan Contrarian
May 06, 2021/ Francis Menton
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/05/08/fantasy-versus-reality-in-woke-land/
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And now for something completely different:
NASA’s Perseverance Captures Video, Audio of Fourth Ingenuity Flight
May 7, 2021
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/05/08/nasas-perseverance-captures-video-audio-of-fourth-ingenuity-flight/
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Astonishing!
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Weather Dependent Renewable power performance in Europe DE UK FR: 2020
Reposted from edmhdotme
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/05/07/weather-dependent-renewable-power-performance-in-europe-de-uk-fr-2020/
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Where’s the Lithium? NYT Notices a Lot More Lithium Needed for Biden’s Electric Vehicle Push
Guest essay by Eric Worrall
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/05/08/wheres-the-lithium-nyt-notices-a-lot-more-lithium-needed-for-bidens-electric-vehicle-push/
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We are under attack.
Some Evil thing has somehow gained control of our ‘media’ companies….. Like Disney, Facebook, and so on.
That evil thing has somehow convinced/gained control of the elite few who control a company. And that elite few are now advocating and using company funds, resources, and training to attack the US.
Critical Race Theory…. Is not a ‘theory’ as it is not a logical scientific/fact based thing. It is a part of manifold plan that is being pushed by the CCP who control a country that is monoethnic, to create conflict in our countries and particularly in the US which is not monoethnic.
Who owns Disney? Or perhaps a better question is who/what controls Disney?
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/05/08/report-walt-disney-co-promotes-critical-race-theory-to-employees-telling-them-to-reject-equality-and-strive-for-equity/
Rufo reported he also obtained an internal video in which Disney executive chairman Bob Iger pledged that the company “should be taking a stand” on political controversies and no longer “shy away from politics” in the future.
Disney spokeswoman Zenia Mucha didn’t reply to a request for comment from Breitbart News.
“The purported internal Disney document puts forth a series of training modules on “antiracism,” including one claiming the United States has “long history of systemic racism and transphobia.” It also said white employees must “work through feelings of guilt, shame, and defensiveness to understand what is beneath them and what needs to be healed.”
Another module, called “What Can I Do About Racism?,” tells employees that they should reject “equality” and instead strive for “equity,” with a focus on “the equality of outcome.” Employees are urged to “reflect” on America’s “racist infrastructure” and “think carefully about whether or not your wealth, income, treatment by the criminal justice system, employment, access to housing, health care, political power, and education might be different if you were of a different race.”
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IT is obviously due to a man-made agent, probably released by an unfriendly country but which has mutated into more virulent forms recently.
Possibly related to the fungus that infects ants and alters their brain so they start behaving in a suicidal manner which results in them (and the fungus) being eaten. The fungus survives and the cycle continues.
Similarly in Disney, the result is financial suicide followed by dispersal of the fungus into other parts of the economy (the film industry in particular – see their latest drop in financial returns).
Could be dangerous if it gets into the Federal Govt. Oops!
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‘The media uses it to scare people’: Survey detects [doomsday global warming] scepticism in young people
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/the-media-uses-it-to-scare-people-survey-detects-climate-change-scepticism-in-young-people-20210427-p57msr.html
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I just read the article. Of course the ABC is the biggest offender and this new scepticism is therefore a reference to their OTT alarmism / propaganda. Hopefully this is an indication of a tide starting to turn and a new generation realising this is a media driven scam.
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South Australian wind power currently operating at about 2.3% capacity.
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Like an ashtray on a motorbike.
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Next time the ecoloons rave on about cutting greenhouse gases, tell the Greeenies this:
“…the top 4 sources of global greenhouse emissions, they are China (27%), the United States (11%), India (6.6%), and the EU (6.4%)…. Total GHG emissions from all members of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), as well as all 27 EU member states, reached 14,057 MMt CO2e in 2019, about 36 MMt CO2e short of China’s total.
https://bongino.com/report-chinas-has-more-greenhouse-gas-emissions-than-rest-of-developed-world-combined/
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#
Chad
Lance,
.. you probably missed my reply to your comment last week, ….
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I’m now done with watching Sky’s Outsiders program, permanently. Those three clowns just spent the past 15 minutes bagging mitigation responses to COVID19’s spread and pretending its all nothing and just slammed measures to rein in a deadly global pandemic.
3.3 million people dead from it as of this morning.
Which is being kept down by the very measures they condemn. I’m like to call them several things but the filter won’t allow it. But it’s absolutely sickening to hear such clowns pretending it’s nothing, just incidental. They are out of control and some of the most pathetic hypocrites I’ve ever seen on a TV program. If such measures were not in place, and an outbreak were to occur again in Australia, they would be the first and also the loudest to roundly condemn the lack of spread controls. And I’ve literally heard them do exactly that several times already, that’s what they do, and have no sense of of the hypocrites they are. Typical TV media, they are so used to fabricating stories and reading from scripts the hypocrisy does not even make them blink or blush. They have no shame or restraint at all in fact.
So I can’t put up with this ideologically warped dishonesty and hypocrisy, and TV ‘journalism’ any longer, they ought to rename their show, “Strain at a Gnat and Swallow a Camel”, because that’s all they do now. It was a show with some potential to balance-up a range of contentious discussions, and it was mostly valid commentary, but now they’re so full of themselves and warped with bombastic opinion that everything they’ve said on other topics is now tainted and undone by this disgusting denial of COVID19’s effects. I’m totally done with all three of them after this morning, they’re as bad as each other, all three are self-absorbed, puffed-up, anti-everything posers and twerps, running a TV version of click-bait, with no sense of the proportionality and objectivity they claim to espouse (i.e. more hypocrisy). They’re demonstrating that they are extremist opportunistic unprincipled dimwits, who are not interested in balanced reporting. If you’re going to be skeptical, first be skeptical of yourself and your motives ‘Outsiders’. You are not special bearers of immutable truth, you are just dodgy pundits on a Sunday morning talk program gig, and making a mess of a golden opportunity to not screw up.
2c
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3.3 million, since the 1st of January or are you doing a running tally into infinity?
Why is this the only disease not being annualised?
2020 was the lowest all cause mortality in most countries including Australia and India.
You believe the outsiders in the climate debate, you don’t believe the MSM, governments, UN and scientists in the climate debate, you believe they are all lying, yet you believe exactly the same people in the COVID scam. So are they only lying when it suits your own bias?
“You are not special bearers of immutable truth” but you are, and your worldometer?
“If you’re going to be skeptical, first be skeptical of yourself and your motives”, heed your own words.
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Stop making excuses for that bunch, they are not worthy of excuses.
I do not “believe” anyone, I examine things, and when I encounter utter BS on Sky, or on the ABC, or in Govt, or some topic, I say so.
Have the basic honesty to examine what they say, if you call yourself a ‘skeptic’.
There are way too many fake ‘skeptics’ around here, and you seem to be one of them.
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“There are way too many fake ‘skeptics’ around here, and you seem to be one of them.” Says a person who displays no scepticism in this regard, but believes everything the MSM, UN tells him to believe in regard to COVID.
“I do not “believe” anyone, I examine things”, you examine/believe what you are shown to believe, the massive amount of censorship does not even make you blink, let alone think.
What’s a fake skeptic, someone who does not believe what you believe. There is defiantly a fake sceptic in this conversation, the other is me.
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I support WX, the Outsiders lost the plot on Covid from the get go.
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Outsiders do occasionally have the odd moment but at least you get a diversity of opinion which is something that’s almost impossible to find on any other network .
For me being a Skeptic means listening to all sides then researching before forming an opinion and if I find research that counteracts my informed opinion and belief I’m open to change rather than be a rusted onto a belief as if it was an ideology.
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A diversity of crap opinions is hardly useful.
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Rohan was great when he had his old mate, but since his forced departure it hasn’t been the same.
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Come on man … I cannot believe that any sane or even sentient person is still using the phrase “Covid scam” – are you for real?
Millions of people have died around the world, and many millions of others are ill – and you treat it like a hilarious hoax or a joke? Do you literally have no heart or soul? Words are not enough. Believe all the Bill Gates / Soros / WEF / Klaus Schwab / Illuminati / Fauci silliness that you conspiracy paranoids are fond of, but I think it’s outrageous that you call a very real tragedy with millions suffering – a “scam”. Pretty shocking in fact.
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…. well then you are lucky..
You will now have more time to watch ABCs…. “Q&A” , “7;30”, and their “Gretta” doco,s !
……Enjoy !
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New “Fashions of the Field”
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/79206/latest-internet-trend-is-to-eat-raw-decomposed-rotten-high-meat/index.html
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Not being apt to follow fashion, I think I’ll pass on that one! It doesn’t sound at all appetising. 🙁
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Well it isn’t that far from the grubs that are being prescribed as diet so the woke might
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Discovering past weather through astrometeorology.
https://physicstoday.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/PT.3.4724
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Interesting. Need more time to read the rest of the article. Rather a mix of astronomy, astrology and astrophysics…need to go back to it.
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Astrology was Kepler’s day job, not that there is anything wrong with that.
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Testing
Re masks
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Link for that
https://redpowerphotos.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/monthly_2021_05/1918221443_covidmaskfence.thumb.jpg.461323ea79fcb48a68f37d6240cd61ca.jpg
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Climate hysteria devastated …
The sun may offer key to predicting El Niño, groundbreaking study finds
“Now there’s emerging research to suggest that cosmic rays, or positively charged, high-energy particles from space, might be the mechanism that flips the switch between phases.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/05/08/sun-el-nino-study/
Oh dear. 97% settled ‘science’:
2013: Scientists conclude humans key factor in global warming
“If the sun were the cause of the changes then one would see warming at the surface and in the lower atmosphere and in the upper atmosphere and in fact what we see is the opposite,” he said.
“We see warming at the surface and cooling in the upper atmosphere, so that immediately discounts the sun as a causal factor.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-17/scientists-say-humans-key-factor-in-global-warming-of-climate/4962796
2014: Wet La Nina years mask sea level rise
“Hiatus in warming
The apparent slowing of sea level rise coincided with what the UN panel of climate experts calls a hiatus in global warming at the Earth’s surface, when temperatures have risen less sharply despite record emissions of greenhouse gases.
But the study finding that there has been no slowing of sea level rise between the 1990s and the 2000s “clearly advocates for no recent slowdown in global warming,” write the authors.
Many scientists suspect that the “missing heat” from a build-up greenhouse gases in the atmosphere is going into the deep oceans as part of natural variations in the climate.
But, because water expands as it warms, that theory had been hard to reconcile with the apparent slowdown in sea level rise.”
https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2014/03/24/3970174.htm
Get ready to laugh!
>> ‘oogle “global warming causes el nino” – About 588,000 results (0.59 seconds)
>> ‘oogle “global warming causes la nina” – About 4,490,000 results (0.70 seconds)
97% UN settled science is garbage, not fit to base economic policies on.
It’s the sun, stupid.
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It’s worse that we first thought!
The UN 97% science that is …
May, 2021: If we want to save the planet, the future of food is insects
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/may/08/if-we-want-to-save-the-planet-the-future-of-food-is-insects?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=soc_568&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1620518433
Wait. What?
May, 2018: Climate change on track to cause major insect wipeout, scientists warn
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/17/climate-change-on-track-to-cause-major-insect-wipeout-scientists-warn
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“Fantastic Findings: German Study Shows Added CO2 Has Led To 14% More Vegetation Over Past 100 Years!”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/05/09/fantastic-findings-german-study-shows-added-co2-has-led-to-14-more-vegetation-over-past-100-years/
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I’m puzzled – I thought you mob believe CO2 isn’t increasing.
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More recognition for Jo
In the best blogs list here
“Ten top climate blogs:† ↑WUWT
…For news, analysis & discussion:
34. Watts Up With That (“WUWT”), by Anthony Watts.
…For in-depth analysis: (realist/skeptical/lukewarmist)
35. Climate Etc. by Judith Curry.
36. Climate Audit, by Steve McIntyre.
37. Roy Spencer.
38. Andy May.
39. Jo Nova.
…and, for balance, the four best alarmist blogs:
40. Moyhu, by Nick Stokes.
41. Science of Doom, by Steve Carson.
42. All Models Are Wrong (but some are useful), by Tamsin Edwards.
43. Protons for Breakfast, by Michael de Podesta.
†Note: blogs which are censored to suppress dissent are not listed. (I don’t take issue with enforcement of civility.) That unfortunately includes several prominent alarmist blogs. That’s why I could only find four alarmist blogs to recommend. If you know of any other reasonably good quality alarmist climate blogs, which are not censored to suppress dissent, please tell me about them.”
https://sealevel.info/learnmore.html
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Well deserved no doubt ,and yes been in trouble a few times when I’ve stepped over the line but never for my views on CAGW.
Just popped up on Facebook but haven’t seen it yet is this YouTube vid of Jo and Professor Kellow on bad science (?).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B_LZQtzT38
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“Happy Mothers’ Day to all “chest-feeders”. ”
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2021/05/happy-mothers-day-to-all-chest-feeders-.html
Is Jeremy Clarkson, with his searching of the fridge for a plate of cold sausages, a “chest feeder” too?
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We had an ice-chest when we were kids, then we migrated to a kerosene fridge. Outside dunny too.
The past is a different country.
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Any would be economists out there?
I am hearing a lot of noise out of the US about inflation raising its head. We are not as badly off here I don’t think but we mostly follow the US.
I’ve got some capital but no income other than the pension so a classic defensive move into real estate [With 7% rental returns available here property is still fairly priced] is impossible, or at least raising a mortgage is.
Is the threat of inflation great enough to call in some IOUs from the kids, clean out the bank and broker accounts and buy for cash?
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Is that net net? From our experience there are a lot of outgoings. And would it be residential, tourist, or commercial property? New?
Keeping your savings as cash in an inflationary world makes little sense – unless interest rates rise to keep pace. I don’t see either happening (significant inflation in Australia, or improved interest rates).
My concern would be putting all your savings into the one asset class. Is it possible to borrow say $100K or so, rather than clean out the bank account?
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That’s the amazing thing, I have liquid assets to equal the buy price but lenders [universally] won’t lend me a cent.
It’s the economic outlook I’m seeking opinions on ATM. I have too much in A$ if inflation is coming and adequate exposure to Au. Nil investment property. My son wants to finance him into a gold mine BTW. If I have already spent the money …….
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I can’t give any financial advice because that’s a closed shop industry and I ain’t in their club. I can throw a few random ideas into the air and you be the judge of what might be interesting.
https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/central-bank-balance-sheet
That’s the RBA balance sheet, that big uptick in the past 12 months outweighs anything that happened in 2008 and 2009 … so that’s one thing to keep an eye on if you are worried about inflation in Australia. We are in uncharted waters at this point.
If you own your home and want to borrow money then a “Reverse Mortgage” is one option, there’s risks and fees of course, and you can’t borrow more than a fraction of the total value. High inflation could perhaps mean that the property value goes up faster than the interest on the loan … but there’s no guarantee of that.
As for what to invest in, bank interest sucks but keeping some money available “just in case” is helpful. The share market is easy, flexible and convenient but you need to know what you are doing … given the volatility of the current market timing is everything IMHO. Land only makes sense if you are buying a family home (no capital gains tax) or if you are a high income earner looking for negative gearing on an investment property.
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Wonder if you have come across this opinion: https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2021/04/inflation-to-be-or-not-to-be/
Yeah, it’s a worry.
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‘According to the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), there is an 80% probability that La Niña will end between May and July. However, the agency expects a new La Niña to begin again in the fall.’ (Notrickszone)
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BoM maintains neutrality.
‘All seven climate models surveyed by the Bureau suggest a neutral ENSO state is the most likely scenario through the remainder of the southern hemisphere autumn and winter.’
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On covid – “Here is a little humor and a little information:”
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/05/09/grab-bag/#comment-143423
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The federal government is keen on monumental infrastructure and the longest tunnel in Australia fits the bill, monies well spent. Decentralisation is key to taking pressure off Sydney, it’ll be in the Budget. Premier Gladys is also committed.
“The NSW Government knows how important this upgrade is to the people who use the Great Western Highway every day and in improving connections between Sydney and the Central West, which is why we committed $2.5 billion to deliver a once-in-a-generation upgrade to this key corridor,” Mr Toole said.
“As part of this upgrade, we’ve already committed to a 4.5-kilometre tunnel to bypass Blackheath and a 4-kilometre tunnel underneath Victoria Pass, one of the steepest roads in NSW.’
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The science on Warm Blobs and Cool Pools is still in its infancy, yet considered significant.
https://climateimpactcompany.com/the-new-influence-on-climate-of-the-warming-mid-latitude-oceans/
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My latest on EPA’s HFC phaseout boondoggle:
https://www.cfact.org/2021/05/10/epas-proposed-hfc-phaseout-regulation-is-nuts/
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DAILY | Pastor Art ARRESTED. Whistle Stop owner ARRESTED. What happened, Alberta?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivsaJqAJkdM
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