GB News has only been running for 10 weeks in the UK but it has already been targeted by a campaign to boycott the advertisers.
However the boycott was twice as likely to get people to tune in.
This is how it works. Once the Virtue Signallers have overdone the bullying and the crowd knows it — the bullying itself works like a signpost.. By definition, the forbidden material will always be the most interesting. The politically incorrect shows are the most entertaining.
GB News joy as campaign to boycott advertisers has actually BOOSTED channel
Express.co.uk
While those wishing to boycott GB News may take brands removing their adverts as a win – a recent survey found it may have actually given the channel a boost.
A poll of 1,000 people conducted by CT Group, commissioned by GB News, gave the statement “consumer goods brands should not adopt overt political views”.
Of those polled, 57 percent agreed that brands shouldn’t take on “overt political beliefs”. And only 15 percent disagreed with the statement. When those surveyed were asked if an advertiser boycott made people more likely to tune into the news network, 29 percent confirmed it would.
People are refusing to pay the BBC license too.
‘Clock is ticking’ BBC funding crisis as viewers ‘no longer willing to pay licence fee’
Express.co.uk
The Minister for Media and Data has reported a “decline in willingness to pay the licence fee” of the BBC. Mr Whittingdale continued: “The second is in the longer term the decline in willingness to pay the BBC’s licence fee. “So I think this debate about how we sustain public service broadcasting is only just beginning.”
This is both good and bad. It’s good that the BBC is feeling the squeeze, but ultimately it’s bad that the price signals are knocking on the door, and no one is listening. People wouldn’t be tuning out if the BBC was not such a humorless preaching bore.
In a normal world, the BBC ought to care that people are leaving and want to give them what they want to get them back. Instead the BBC will no doubt beg the government for more money while it beats them over the head for not being leftist enough, and the government will give it cash. In the process the Deep State gatekeepers will become more entrenched.
Meanwhile: In Australia, people might want to know about this petition calling for an ombudsman for the ABC. I’d rather sell it myself, but it’s good to see any kind of protest.
Morning Jo,
O. M. G.! … Who knew? … Socialism is a great theory!
But only that, a theory!
Unless & until the theory is perfected (or close to), they can try 100 times to introduce it, & it will fail each & every time.
Just as Abraham Lincoln (most likely) said; “You can fool some of the people all the time, or all the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all the people all the time”.
(Or as Churchill said; “The only problem with socialism/communism is, sooner or later you run out of other people’s money”!)
Boris only just reversed his suicidal mandatory gas boiler decision in time, but he still has quite a lot of other retrograde policies to reverse before he’s “out of the Red Zone” for the next election.
– Oh, and all these clinical “T. D. S.” sufferers in the U. S. A. should be really proud of themselves, esp. the last week.
One of the biggest problems with the “2020’s”, is the Depression & Russian/Chinese communist purges are now verging on “too long ago to be in the conscious memory of most voting-age adults.
Hopefully the next few years we’ll see a long-overdue improve of people’s “Common Sense at the ballot-box”, starting of course at the federal election (within the next 10 months).
Warm regards, Reformed Warmist of Logan.
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Unfortunately, I think it will get even worse… possibly PM Albanese ! 🙁
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Makes little difference as they are all “in it together”.
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anybody think there is any chance of the NATS breaking ranks…?
Barnaby Matt & George . . . . my fingers are crossed.
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Can I have a little hand-heart with that please?
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“Unfortunately, I think it will get even worse… possibly PM Albanese !”
A dose of Labor might get some of the Conservatives out of the LNP and into PHON which would be excellent news for small l liberals
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Or the small l liberals could join the Greens, where they seem to want to belong.
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I consider myself a small l liberal but I certainly ain’ t Green as they’re a party that wants all of us but not them of course to regress to the pre-industrial era. A totally idiotic plan that would see disease and starvation running rife. No for me thanks very much
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Josh wants us to accept the new dark age, zero by 2050, he is a small L.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/08/28/australias-federal-treasurer-admits-he-wants-a-net-zero-by-2050-commitment/
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Only if fair weather [Australian] liberals reject the “good” searching for the “perfect”.
The lesser of two evils is still a valid choice.
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Unfortunatley I think the ballot box in Australia has meant little over at least the last decade. I think they are pretty much all deep state plants and or owned by the powers that be.THEY seem to replace PMs we put in with someone they own, with the help of ABC.
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That is true, especially given how we use the stupid preferential voting system that hardly no other country uses. It dilutes the democratic process as some people will vote for one party only to end up supporting another party they don’t like or even detest. Sure, people can not follow the instructions on the papers they hand out and vote according to their own pattern but I suspect most are too lazy and just follow the instructions handed out to them and leave the rest to the party they place first to decide where their preferences end up going. Anyway, it matters not as both major parties are “in it together” to wreck this nation by sticking to the same policy of emissions reduction. I’m hoping for a hung parliament to allow some of the minor parties to hold the government formed to account and force the ruling party to drop the emissions reduction insanity.
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Greetings PeterS,
Whilst on the surface I agree with you … both that preferential is woeful, & that the net result of the last 5 years or so (since Turnbull’s turning of the knife) have been more virtue-signalling than much else … please don’t wish another “Gillard-like” “traffic-light-coalition” on us!! – At least not for another decade + !!!
Warm regards, reformed Warmist of Logan.
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Greetings.
Yes there is the risk of that happening but so what? It’s not different to now. I see no problem seeing it work the opposite way and the minority parties that would end up joining the minority governments actually support coal fired power. It’s our only option. Anything else is business as usual for the destruction of our nation.
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I think preferential voting is potentially great democracy. It enables citizens to express their concerns and still avoid socialism.
How to vote is the problem. Nobody should be allowed to request anything but a 1 vote.
Posters and volunteers should not be allowed near polling booths.
The uninformed would largely become discarded informal.
Citizenship courses are a necessary but a misused concept. Knowing popular Australian history is not important.
Knowing our political systems is vital including how to vote legally, separation of powers, roles of upper lower houses and resonsibility of State, Federal and Local government.
Why we have a Senate and the rolls of states in the US of Australia.
As a Westminister model our senate should be a house of review. That is first review pass or suggest ammendments. Second review same as first review knowing that the third presentation has to be passed to a non political GG to become law. The house of lords cannot refuse a third presentation and the government governs.
Our senate is supposed to protect the senator’s state. It is undemocratic for the senate to vote on partisan lines.
Any senator that barters for votes should be dismissed. Any bill should be addressed on its merits. To bargain about I’ll vote for that if you vote for this is improper behaviour by both the proposer and the bribed. It is treason in a free country where bills should be considered on their merit.
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The Uniparty label came into vogue for a reason. They seem different on the margins but in reality seem to come to the same place just at different times.
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Jane, there’s an acronym we have here in the States. But for the life of me I can’t remember it. Perhaps someone not in your neck of the woods would do so. Maybe you guys in OZ know it as well…
But it means There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This.
A very strong statement that voting has now become useless.
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It would be great if non-leftists would stop hyping the ABC as being important.
Since 1993 there have been 9 federal elections, 8 of which were won by the Coalition despite the fervent non-stop barracking of the ABC for Labor. Does this tell you ANYTHING at all about their “influence”?
Ignore what the ABC says or does, and simply fight to get it privatized or closed down. do not give it any credit whatsoever, as it has none.
Have a look at any gathering of the Friends of The ABC: aged hippies, and senile fans of two blokes dressed in banana suits wearing pyjamas. FFS, IGNORE them!
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I clearly remember the downcast looks at their abc central vote tally room when SCOMO won the unwinnable election, the idiot Green and co looked like they had their throat cut.
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” Who knew? … Socialism is a great theory!
But only that, a theory!”
It’s been tried, and FAILED for a LONG time. ALWAYS accompanied by murder, imprisonment and general opression.
The PUREST establishment thus far seen was instituted in Cambodia 1975-1979.
Socialism is a DEATH CULT. Nothing more.
It is very good at the unequal sharing of “hardship”. In practice, that is it’s KEY feature and the one that attracts people to it.
As Winston Churchill put it:
“We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.”
“Some see private enterprise as a predatory target to be shot, others as a cow to be milked, but few are those who see it as a sturdy horse pulling the wagon.”
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, a creed of ignorance, and a gospel of envy. Its only inherent virtue, the equal sharing of misery.”
And I guarantee that the equal sharing of ANYTHING, including misery, is only in the propaganda aimed at the peasantry, NOT in the reality of the lives of the Nomenklatura and the Kulaks.
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“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” – Mahatma Gandhi
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Streisand Effect
The Streisand effect is a social phenomenon that occurs when an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information has the unintended consequence of further publicizing that information, often via the Internet. It is named after American entertainer Barbra Streisand, whose attempt to suppress the California Coastal Records Project’s photograph of her residence in Malibu, California, taken to document California coastal erosion, inadvertently drew further attention to it in 2003.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
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Making future leaders brain dead and can only follow each other blindly until the citizens have had enough of the bullying.
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A Great Musician though
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One can only hope that this is the first signs of the electorate waking from their coma that has been the worst “pandemic “ of the world for the last 50 years!
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Plandemic
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Now, Phillip, that sums it all up. Excellent summation in just one word.
And you know I’m gonna swipe it.
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“‘Sledgehammer’: Plan to force university staff to reveal foreign political history”
This could be the most interesting development in recent memory, for me anyway!
The fallout from this announcement alone makes me wonder if there may be a lot of behind the scenes document shredding and the like happening into the wee small hours from some/most of our slackademics!
From Sydney Moaning Herald.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/sledgehammer-plan-to-force-university-staff-to-reveal-foreign-political-history/ar-AANP4zL?ocid=msedgntp
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The immediate objection by the academics makes me think the move is required, immediately.
Cheers
Dave B
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Scamdemics.
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The left has “seagulls” that turn up, tear everything apart, crap on it and fly off…
But people are realizing that where the seagulls are, like in nature, there is a fresh catch worth investigating, nearby….
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If liars pants really did catch fire, watching the nightly news would be a whole lot more fun.
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Dresden level firestorm inside 30 mins.
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Could someone please explain why we have an ABC? It is nearly a hundred years old, but I still have no idea why it exists? Doesn’t anyone ask?
The justification for Al Grassby’s Multicultural SBS vanished when satellite dishes appeared in backyards in the last century, long before the internet.
So $30 million a week of our hard earned money for what reason? Please? I have never understood why it exists, what is it’s purpose and whether it is still needed or ever was?
And why isn’t everyone in the ABC, Police force, Judiciary apologising for the persecution, trial and jailing in solitary of Cardinal George Pell? It’s as if it didn’t happpen? Where’s the apology from the ABC? Where’s the talk of compensation? Or is he still guilty of a crime which could not have happened, a crime without evidence and persecution fully funded by the taxpayer and for which no one is responsible and besides, they all know he is really guilty. And Milligan has a Golden Quill for her excellent work in jailing an innocent man. Why isn’t she handing it back? And why are we paying more millions to defend her?
Can we all opt out at least? I am so sick of paying for a massive group of arrogant self people on our cash. And I have no way of stopping it. Just shut them down. Turn off the money. Everyone else is out of work, why not the ABC? Where will they all go on their well earned holidays this year?
Never in the history of broadcasting have so many given so little for so much cash from everybody else. Even the BBC is accountable. Not Their ABC. Opinion presented as fact. Woke, Climate Change, Sorry, BLM, hectoring, burning gum leaves, posers. Utterly out of control. Even politicians are accountable and no conservative politician will step foot inside Their ABC.
Just turn it off. All of it. We need fruit pickers.
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“Just turn it off.”
I have. I have programmed my TV to skip ABC channels.
As far as I am concerned, they don’t exist.
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And we need people to stake tomatoes. It’s back breaking work, but no one can stoop as low as ABC reporters. They should be ideal.
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A new to the district fencing team turned up at the local pub. It included a dwarf.
Answer to the question “What’s his job” was
“He runs the bottom wire”
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How long before the Woke ABC demand affirmative action for dwarves in basketball teams?
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Any dwarf who identifies as 6’6″ deserves a place – or you’re a bigot.
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My tv’s been completely off for five years now.
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ABC Telebanned?
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Everything.
Cancel culture bites back.
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Eight years without TV; chose not to connect the existing aerial after we moved in.
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TdeF:
Whenever anyone dares to suggest the ABC should lose
governmenttaxpayers money they resort to their old (and best) defence, claiming that Peppa Pig will go. I must admit I am one of the few who apparently have never watched that show, so cannot really argue whether it is needed or not, but I guess that it appeals to young minds and mothers grateful for moments of rest. Indeed sticking the kids in front of the TV might allow time for a cuppa.So if the ABC is to be defunded, I suggest that it be broken up into bits as multiple subscription services. Thus Children’s shows, Country programs (and garden shows with the talking bush), News and Politics suggest themselves as does BBC repeats. Do they still do Sport? Each of these could be assigned one of the multiple TV and/or radio channels used by the current ABC.
A subscription rate of $29 a year (8¢ a day – although it is really 13¢) for each channel, shouldn’t be beyond all (esp. those inner-city low fat soya latté drinkers who think they need the ABC) would bring in far more money for the ABC PROVIDED their audience is as great as they like to claim. In practice they will have to trim their views to maintain numbers.
For the Federal Govt. it would be painless euthanasia. No-one except Friends of the ABC (who most likely don’t support the Govt. anyway) could object.
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That is the classic Peppa Pig defence. There are two fallacies.
Firstly the ABC has nothing to do with Peppa Pig. Peppa Pig would exist without them.
Second. They simply outbid the commercial channels with buckets of our cash so that they secure access to programs like this, to make themselves essential viewing, at least for children. So it is extortion funded by us and forcing up all our costs. There is no accountability because there is no mechanism for accountability.
Ita Buttrose does not run the ABC. Managing Director David Anderson either lied about his dropping numbers (the ABC actually added 200+ people) or he has no idea. He is the Joe Biden of the ABC. No one dares challenge the ABC collective. They saw what happened to Cardinal Pell. Convicted of sexual assault on someone who was dead and denied it when he was alive and without any witnesses except the accuser. It shows what happens to anyone who crosses the Collective who have infinite money for lawyers. Our money.
It is simply the richest, most self indulgent, utterly opinionated group of lazy self appointed experts in the world running a massive sheltered workshop. And they indulge themselves in political and personal attacks on their group enemies, conservative and Catholics. According to the ABC, Sydney Harbour bridge is already under water and if it isn’t, it’s just lucky and not to be mentioned.
This has to end. You can turn it off. You can block it out. But they still live in your wallet.
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TdeF:
Under the existing model they collect money from the taxpayer regardless of whether they appeal to the public or not.
My point was that the ABC are well aware that they aren’t overwhelmingly popular, but will not change unless forced to do so, and with a series of Governments unable to enforce their supposed neutrality and still giving them money, why will they?
A subscription existence would force the ABC to appeal to viewers, and by splitting the “service” into parts would focus their attention. It would also enable people to select what parts of the service they think necessary, thus avoiding any backlash from the public. That might be enough reason for the Government to act.
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Creation of an organisation named Enemies Of The ABC could be a useful start.
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Take a look at this ABC picture. This is their 59% female news talent pool in full working garb of 6 inch stilettos and $500 outfits, aiming for more equality and inclusion, bemoaning that just 10% of field camera operators are women . . . oh, the humanity.
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2021/08/59-of-abc-news-staff-are-women-and-its-still-not-enough-.html
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You can get it on DVD and many episodes are on Youtube. No need for the ABC at all but great need for politicians with backbones. Strange how any pollies who have a backbone are smartly moved to the back bench. At least we hear from those few on Channel 53 after 1800.
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Or ch 56 in our area.
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Is SBS still relevant in the 21st century? Probably not, here are some figures ….
‘The level of contributed equity by Government remained constant at $110.403 million. SBS generated 30 per cent of its total operating revenue from the sale of goods and services in 2018-19.’
Its a hybrid model, which is undoubtedly the propaganda wing of the Klimatariat and deserves to be severely criticised.
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Yes turning off the ABC by not watching is good. I’ve stopped watching it years ago. The trouble is it doesn’t literally turn it off since it still gets funding from us tax payers so that a lot of people still watch it. How stupid is that? Why should my taxes be used to keep feeding propaganda BS to others? So, it must either be shut down or sold off. I don’t care which.
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At least the Poms can still protest by withholding licence fee payment, just like we used to 50 odd years ago until the grubbiment woke up to us.
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Stop voting for any party that supports them, I did.
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The ABC exists today to act as a hard left-wing propaganda outlet, aiding to bring down the liberal western democracies of the developed world and replace them with a global communist / Marxist government. You asked 🙂
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Some comments on “fight back” by Chiefio starting at
“E.M.Smith says:
28 August 2021 at 3:42 pm
https://thepostmillennial.com/opentable-reservation-service-to-work-with-restaurants-to-enforce-government-vaccine-mandates
So don’t use “Open Table”… ”
And follows down to the French response to “passports for dining” which seems to be working a treat
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/08/27/democrats-behaving-badly-after-the-steal-the-purge/#comment-149595
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And in other news from the Stock Market – Counterfeit Inc futures soar.
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I would like the ABC sold to. But if we actually do need some broadcasting done, I would have a group of 20 people chosen at random on 12 month terms to determine what we actually do need then I would put the delivery out to contract and any broadcaster can then fill the gap. I recon we could probably drop the ABC budget to 100 million or less. I know “tell me Im dreamin”
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The SBS model of privatising the ABC is probably the best way forward, but politicians don’t have the stomach for it.
‘This, of course, represents a governance problem within the Liberal party itself. In 2018 the Liberal Federal Council voted to privatise the ABC – a policy position the government has chosen to ignore. If elected politicians are able to ignore their constituents, it should be no surprise that apparently independent government agencies do so too. It is not just the ABC that is out of touch.’ (AFR Davidson)
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“Eric Clapton Releases New Song Pushing Back Against COVID Dictates and Totalitarian Government, “This Has Gotta Stop”
August 28, 2021 | Sundance | 132 Comments”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/28/eric-clapton-releases-new-song-pushing-back-against-covid-dictates-and-totalitarian-government-this-has-gotta-stop/
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I hope he is ok …
Kiss concert cancelled after Paul Stanley tests positive for covid-19
“Everyone on the entire tour, both band and crew, are fully vaccinated the group’s statement continued.
The band and crew have operated in a bubble independently to safeguard everyone as much as possible at each show and in between shows.
The tour also has a COVID protocol officer on staff full-time that is ensuing everyone is closely following al CDC guidelines.”
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kiss-cancel-concert-paul-stanley-covid-1217797/
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The only problem with a bubble is it only takes one prick.
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You all do know he lives right here in The Good Ol’ US of A. Right?
Ya think this would be released in what used to be Free England?
Not a chance in Hell.
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Now that is a petition I would support.
Like the BBC, the ABC has proven itself obsolete. The difference is that the BBC has a dedicated link to funding so anyone wanting to avoid the BBC can withdraw their funding. My eldest son has been in the UK for 6 years. He does not own a television set and does not pay the BBC fee.
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Actually an ombudsman will just add another layer of costs. Just more waste. So I cannot support the petition.
I will support a petition to privatise their ABC. ABC is obsolete. The organisation has not kept up with the times. It needs to earn its keep by offering something people are willing to pay for.
How do we start a petition to privatise their ABC. Let the ABC find out who wants them.
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Same here Rick.
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Why would anyone buy the ABC? All their services are pretty well duplicated by either other FTA channels or streaming services. Just defund them gradually until they finally realise they might need to adhere to the ABC charter. Works for the Taliban- death by a thousand cuts.
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If they could not find someone willing to pay money for it, then how about it is offered as an ABC employee buyout. Sell it to as many as want to pay $1 as the Government can find.
All ABC employees consider they offer a valuable service. You would hope all of them would come up with a single dollar to be a part owner of this valuable business.
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perfect gets in the way of the good one more time, I guess the silver bullet will arrive one day
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Anyone interested in buying it might also be interested in a large arched bridge in Sydney.
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“California Governor Worries His Recall is a Referendum on Joe Biden and Democrats
August 28, 2021 | Sundance | 263 Comments”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/28/california-governor-worries-his-recall-is-a-referendum-on-joe-biden-and-democrats/
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Heres the thing….
The jackals in the Left harranged and harassed Trump non stop, they undermined society, they preached division and moral corruption….they installed thier man,the country has all but collapsed.
Now….100+ dead, including 12 brave US soldiers in Kabul.
Well guess what – the Left own all that.
All the MSM, the CCP proxy the Dumbocrats, all the sky screamers…..
What a complete mess….
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externalising his expected loss already? the ego must be taking a battering
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When those surveyed were asked if an advertiser boycott made people more likely to tune into the news network, 29 percent confirmed it would.
So what did the other 61% say?
Note that the original Express article does not include that statistic, which can only mean that it was unfavourable to the line pushed both here and in England.
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“So what did the other 61% say?”
They said, hey! There’s another 10 pussent missing!
Smart guys.
Oops, and gals.
Oops, and everywhere in between.
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A 29% jump in audience numbers is a pretty big jump. Wouldn’t you agree, PF !
ABC could only fantasise about any jump in audience numbers !
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This is the crunch and as time goes by the situation will become more dire for the BBC.
“The kids are not wedded to the BBC. They don’t pay for it. The over-75s are not paying it.
“And you have more people saying they would rather pay for Netflix.”
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Fox News here in OZ is stronger and now have a channel on free to air because of the push from the rabid leftists to boycott their advertisers, the ABC should be defunded by half and the other half given to Fox News and then on every year which ever station gives the most impartial both sides of the argument news and views get the biggest share of the Billion dollar plus taxpayer funds.
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I’d prefer that there was a box I can tick, on my tax return, that deducts the $200 I am forced to pay to the ABC every year.
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Yes there is a push back against the leftists media happening throughout the West; that is clear. It will be interesting to see how the left react to it. They might be pushed further to the left, which ought to be good as that would be pushed over the edge into oblivion. The question then is where will that leave PM Morrison? Apart from having to wipe the eggs off his face, he will need to drop a lot of the leftist ideological BS, such as the emissions reduction and push towards closing down our coal fired power stations and replace them with renewables and batteries.
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“It will be interesting to see how the left react to it”
its called “confession through projection”
eg.. Biden messed up the Afghan withdrawal, then saying “it was Trumps idea”
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The idea was fine, the issue was the execution, so he is basically saying I stuffed up in a convoluted way.
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The leftist media (ABC) have spent the last few weeks b*tching and moaning about the right wing media (Murdoch).
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KRudd has been standing at the pulpit for a while now as well LOL
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Not sure which is more dangerous, a Qantas covid -19 passport to ‘international freedom’, or a Peter Stuyvesant international passport to smoking pleasure …
https://www.boweryboyshistory.com/2012/05/smoke-peter-stuyvesant-new-amsterdam.html
We’re gonna need a bigger covid-19 passport to fit in the third jab and perpetual 6 month booster jabs stamps.
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If you look back at the past 5 years, amongst a long the ABC tried to sell us the following facts
– Hillary would win
– The story of the century – that Trump used Russian collusion to win the 2016 election
– Pell was guilty – even after he was aquitted
– Shorten would win
– The Barrier reef is dead
– Hunter Binden’s laptop was a fake Russian plant
– Morrison is a QANON supporter
– The virus has natural origins
– Renewables are cheaper
– Christian Porter is a rapist
– Australian troops are war criminals
– The 2019/20 bushfires were proof of climate change
– The 2021 floods were proof of climate change
Thank God for the Murdock press & and God bless GB news !!!
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Even the Murdoch press cant be relied on anymore. Try mentioning the antiviral I word or the H word , your coment is rejected.
I’ve cancelled my subscription to the Australian.
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You are absolutely correct, Brenda. I am really p1ssed off at the Australian. I cannot get any comments published regarding treatments for Covid.
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Yet, yesterday, Jack the Insider wrote an article denigrating Ivermectin as horse drench. Again, I wrote a very nicely worded comment pointing out the active has human approval uses in Australia, that humans/animals share lots of pharmaceutical products and that the WHO regarded IVM as one of the essential medicines. Bang – rejected.
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“Jack the Insider” is just another stalking horse for the PC brigade. The “common Man” schtick is pretty hard to take, especially if you are a “common” man.
A VERY poor rip-off of the old “Fred Dagg” persona.
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I must confess to only watching Sky after dark + Outsiders and Fox News from Tucker to Gutfeld each day and I don’t subscribe to the Aus. The rejection of your comments might not be as sinister as you suspect if you consider the political pressure they are under at the moment from the likes of Turnbull & Rudd. They may not want to risk being accused of promoting something that is not 100% proven and thus leave themselves open for the standard lefty outrage attack. Remember, regardless of what we might think of the Murdock press, we know that it’s seen by the left as the biggest roadblock to their global green Marxism, which is why the likes of KRudd is in full-blown Marxist Mandarin expletive mode wherever they run a story that exposes their lies and hypocrisy. We need Murdock because he’s all we have to protect the free world right now.
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“The rejection of your comments might not be as sinister as you suspect if you consider the political pressure they are under at the moment from the likes of Turnbull & Rudd.”
l believe this has to do with the contracts the Government signed to get the jabs into the country
l have heard that in the contracts there is a clause that says “no other treatments”
the TGA has been trying to get Professor Thomas Borody with something because of the triple therapy treatment he came up with for treating covid with Ivermectin, Doxycycline and Zinc over twelve months ago,
the only thing they have been able to get him on is that he promoted a treatment for covid
apparently that’s against the law
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They are probably too scared of the American TechMarxist Giants cancelling their publication.
Wimps
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About 20 years ago, I would write the occasional brief letter the the Oz and almost always, it was published. Then one day I wrote about phenomenon of child neglect and physical abuse perpetrated by mothers and why this seemed to be an off-limits subject in the media. From that day on nothing I wrote, regardless of subject was published. It seems your name goes on a black list.
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Of SloMo’s numerous fence-sitting failures, which is about everything he does because he was Turnbull’s pick and is weak and clueless, appointing Ita Buttrose was among his numerous big failures.
Rational thinkers got excited when Buttrose was appointed chair of Their ABC as they thought she was also a rational thinker but one of her first pronouncements was that she could see no bias in the organisation.
Buttrose is a shocking failure as would be expected of anyone who is a puppet of Turnbull and Morrison and a very sad way to end her otherwise illustrious career.
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In this country’s near future the government will need to trim the budget somehow. You would hope that halving the budget of the ABC might be one of the first suggestions. During COVID, the ABC have been a hindrance not a help. “Dr” Swan advice all over the place and treated god-like. Tried to demonise the AZ vaccine over the blood clot situation. Never critical of any Labor states with their lockdowns. But, regularly swipe at Libs NSW now during the Sydney lockdown. Yet, as you said. ScoMo just seems to ignore it.
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In our household the major TV channel used is SBS Chill – which is music, so we only listen to it!! Free to air TV is mostly a joke these days. I’m forced to watch AFL finals on 7 because they have these exclusively. Its no wonder the poms don’t want to pay for a licence for the BBC. They probably already have Netflix, Prime, Disney and Apple TV. Thats what I have. The only regular show I watch is Outsiders on Sky every Sunday morning. Seriously, you could pull the plug on the ABC tomorrow and no-one would notice. Even in regional areas most people now have excellent access to everything online. My wife sometimes watches ABC Breakfast during her morning exercise sessions ( no ads ). They have pushed diversity to ridiculous extremes. A mix of male and female presenters – sure, that’s ok. But now have a gay weather presenter in addition to a trans and aboriginal journalist. Plus – wait for it. A bloke in a wheelchair who reports from Adelaide – every day, like Adelaide is the news capital of Australia.
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That is so sad; please convey my condolences. The only thing worse would be taking a daily dose of David Koch and Samantha Armytage.
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Thanks – nice thoughts. But I dont think SA does 7 brekky show anymore. Not sure she was wokey enough.
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“A bloke in a wheelchair who reports from Adelaide” – Adelaide!? Surely they have a traditional indigenous name for that place?
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I’ve not experienced GB News or Talk Radio, so can’t comment on their positions.
But there are very large numbers of people (including conservatives, rural voters, and many other influential people) who would definitely notice. I’m one of those who believes Australia has been a far better place both culturally and informationally because of the existence of ABC TV & Radio, plus the SBS. I’m very happy they are government funded.
Any politician who advocated their privatisation or abolition would be crucified, in my view.
They are not anywhere near as sycophantic or pro-establishment as the BBC is – which I find extremely straight and quite conservative … I try to watch it sometimes, but it gives me the heebie-jeebies. Sky News UK is pretty straightforward and not particularly agenda-driven, but Sky News Australia is just a right-wing soapbox for angry white men who can’t get a gig on a major channel.
BTW – being advocates for solving Climate Change issues, or supporting government policies and actions on the pandemic – these are responsible balanced positions in the eyes of many average Australians. So are issues relating to culture, racism, sexism, and human rights. They are mainstream positions in modern Australia – not left / communist / socialist / Marxist.
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It;s true Tilba, those who need to maintain their religious faith that CO2 is pollution and that windmills will save them from storms, they need the ABC.
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LOL – you’re probably right … just making the point that CO2 Denialism (is that the right term?) does remain a fringe view, and Our ABC is not into supporting fringe views in general. They are the epitome of mainstream centralism, in the main.
And I listen to ABC Radio Melbourne fairly regularly – Virginia Trioli is generally excellent, but she shuts off contrarians ruthlessly on both Climate Change and Covid-19 “cures”. While I generally agree with her (being a good Chardonnay Socialist generally) – I dislike her censorship too.
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And you Tilba are a part of the cancel culture. You seek to silence people who disagree by calling them repeatedly by petty names that preclude their opinion being worthy of even being listened too, even though you have no answers to their points. (Because you have no answers).
This irrational behaviour raises the temperature of the discussion, adds no information or light at all, and is designed to censor people.
All your empty protests against Trioli’s censorship are worth nothing. You haven’t written to her to complain, and you join in the namecalling yourself.
If you continue to namecall “CO2 denialism”, which you can’t define or defend in a scientific way, your posts will not even be worth “target practice” for beginners. They are just predictable timewasters.
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Well I did ask what what was the politically correct term on here. There are a lot of punters on here who believe that CO2 is not causing global warming, and even some extremists who believe that increased CO2 concentrations are a good thing. What to call such people?
In the broad spectrum of the “Global Warming Debate” (to the extent that there is a debate0 what should they be called, other than “Global Warming Deniers”. I really am willing to listen.
I’m not into cancel culture at all (not sure even what it means) – but I do think that decent debate requires a civilised approach. Ad homs and slurs don’t help.
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“Ad homs and slurs don’t help.”
And yet you keep doing them. What’s a Climate denialist in a science debate? Someone who denies there is a climate? Someone who denies we have an atmosphere? Someone who denies the weather ever changes. They are a mythical unicorn beast you create — the strawman you battle so you can win without evidence or argument.
Is it ever worth talking to a denialist? They have the brain of a lizard. As long as you use namecalling and rely on ad homs we know you have no evidence for a civilized discussion.
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[SNIP crass. – J]
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Keep selling it Jo. Resistance from as many fronts as possible is ideal, but our conservative parties are as lame as the Tories on this issue.
What have we had, 13 of 20 years of Conservative governments? Still they criticise the far left bias and virtual signalling, still not one of those leaders has had the guts to strip back their funding, to reflect the majority elected conservative views that we want a balanced broadcaster.
It’s as if they are struggling with a moral dilemma; need to provide balance for the majority voter versus a small, but loud opposition of any reduction of funding represents silencing of critics which is abhorrent in a democracy!
They know full well that opposition argument is typical Marxist hypocrisy, but still we don’t have a leadership group with the spine to force the sanctimonious drivel peddlers into actually living the adversity they claim to represent.
The virtue signalling is sickening from as far back as claims for breaking the white male dominance from Tony Jones, Kerry O’ Brien, Barry Cassidy, Jon Faine, Richard Glover, David Speers, Hamish McDonald…….and a procession of other white men. They’re joined by diversity advocates like white women Ellen Fanning, Victoria Trioli, Jane Caro, Leigh Sales, Jodie Speers……..
The sneering sanctimonious parade of white men and women journalists paraded thru their news and current affairs proves the leftwing hypocrisy by their very presence and will be interesting when Labor finally takes power and cancel culture goes into full swing, because those virtue signallers on the periphery should be the first ones jettisoned for the cause, shouldn’t they?
Or can we actually be a country of merit, where our media is a fact based news presenter, interspersed with opinion by all sides which strengthens our society to being proud of who we evolve into, rather than a nation which hates itself, which the plethora of taxpayer ABC employees seem to vocally represent.
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Who remembers James Dibble as an ABC news presenter? OK, I’m showing my age (turned 80 this past week). But James Dibble’s audience was huge, and he reported what was happening, not what he interpreted to be happening. Big difference.
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I remember Monday Conference on the ABC back in the 70’s. It was like Q&A except it really WAS a debate show. Guests would make their point and then opposing views would be put. Questions could be asked without being cut off with “I’ll take that as a comment” before throwing to the ‘comedian’ to derail the line of argument.
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You’ve hit the nail on the head with the insidious derailment of actual news in the world today, the decision to allow a ‘comedian’ to have the final word on a topic. Observational comedy can be entertaining, satire pilloried the absurdity, now a comedian is employed to deride, ridicule and character assassinate anything which opposes the leftwing narrative, to neatly add an easily quotable punchline of derision.
There’s no satire left in Australia, except for Shaun Micallef. He identifies absurdity across all boundaries. That’s balance.
The problem is the bait headlines, emotive language and conclusion at the end of simply telling you the temperature today! Every ‘reporter’ is a opinion writer now, with a twitter feed to fill!
The comedian on a news program though, is a clever tool for the lazy viewer. Its the visual version of trashmedia reports which have a bait headline and bullet point synopsis. Here’s what you need to take away, neatly wrapped up, for your time poor life! It’s appalling.
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The first poly to state the he will push for sale/folding of their ABC, will get a vote from me!
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Backlash? Beware or be aware of the Dead rabbit bounce.- and they can: when combining a crop of Barley in a severely infested field of rabbits, they were terrifying the operator as they “jumped” out of the back of the header auger and hit against the low Cab windscreen before falling once again in to the Header.
Anyway, insofar as GBN is concerned, as a regular watcher, I’ve had to hit the big switch. Indeed they are offering a platform for “free speech” …. but the presenters are all singing off the SAME Sheet as the MSM, ie “FOR” Covid jabs and climate change. and then they pick up the cudgels for the minority interests ( fair enough per se). Not enough for the “Free-thiking” person from Nigg.
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Occasionally I watch Sky News but tend to watch old movies in my spare time. I find Sky News far more balanced than the ABC, so much so Sky News would make a good role model for a new ABC. It’s very sick to see PM Morrison defending the current ABC when it’s clearly leftist propaganda.
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This is a price signal, but you seem to be confused about who the customer is, and which product is being purchased.
Every government in the history of humanity has valued propaganda, for the purpose of encouraging obedience, patriotism, and collective spirit amongst the population. Methods of achieving this have varied, but it includes bribing the state religion to preach that the King has a natural place in God’s order as ruler of the people. It could include sponsorship of the arts … the famous painting of Napoleon riding a white horse through the Brandenburg Gate into Berlin in 1806 while the clouds parted over his head, was a classic example. It has always involved gaining influence over the means of communication, by outright force, or money, or a mix of both.
The BBC is both the mouthpiece of big government, and advocate for the love of big government. The customers are not the people watching … they are the product.
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GBNews (GBN) and talkRadio (tR) are competing for right of centre views against the rest of MSM. However, alternative views on the need for climate mitigation and the forms it should take have not been forthcoming on GBN who have tended to agree that climate change is real, is being caused by human beings and we need to be ‘greener’. The Station brings no refreshigly new ideas to the table.
The nonsense is that many of the presenters of and contributors to GBN are the very people with large carbon footprints much, much larger than those in low paid jobs who cannot afford to meet their energy bills and put food on the table during the warmer part of the year let alone the colder times. The hypocrisy of the ‘green generation’ stinks and even GBN are playing the same game as the rest because a few thrills here and there are not going to influence anyone other than those with a guilty conscience.
tR on the other hand have been refreshingly outspoken on climate and SARS-CoV-2 but seem to be struggling on the commercial side.
The BBC once filled the gap between left and right but has now become a very unpleasant and obnoxious corporation indeed and the soonest the license fee is scrapped the better IMO.
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Looks like we won’t have to worry about what the MSM say and how we respond to them on-line. It appears a bill has been passed that allows the AFP to rewrite or delete what we say on-line. They decide if you are acting in a suspicious manner – in effect guilty before proven innocent. No warrant needed from a judge – just need one from a bureaucrat. But hey, we all knew this was going to happen. So, without notice if someone makes what is deemed is a suspicious comment on-line, the AFP can do whatever they like with that comment. That might be OK for now if they focus on the real criminals but who really trusts they won’t abuse this new power some time in the future? I certainly don’t trust them.
Surveillance Legislation Amendment (Identify and Disrupt) Bill 2021
Amends: the Surveillance Devices Act 2004 and Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979 to: introduce data disruption warrants to enable the Australian Federal Police (AFP) and the Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission (ACIC) to disrupt data by modifying, adding, copying or deleting data in order to frustrate the commission of serious offences online; and make minor technical corrections; the Surveillance Devices Act 2004 to introduce network activity warrants to enable the AFP and ACIC to collect intelligence on serious criminal activity by permitting access to the devices and networks used to facilitate criminal activity; the Crimes Act 1914 to: introduce account takeover warrants to enable the AFP and ACIC to take over a person’s online account for the purposes of gathering evidence to further a criminal investigation; and make minor amendments to the controlled operations regime to ensure controlled operations can be conducted effectively in the online environment; and 10 Acts to make consequential amendments.
Progress
House of Representatives
Introduced and read a first time 03 Dec 2020
Second reading moved 03 Dec 2020
Second reading debate 24 Aug 2021
Second reading agreed to 24 Aug 2021
Consideration in detail debate
Amendment details: 60 Government agreed to
24 Aug 2021
Third reading agreed to 24 Aug 2021
Senate
Introduced and read a first time 25 Aug 2021
Second reading moved 25 Aug 2021
Second reading debate 25 Aug 2021
Second reading agreed to 25 Aug 2021
Committee of the Whole debate 25 Aug 2021
Third reading agreed to 25 Aug 2021
Finally passed both Houses 25 Aug 2021
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This is what happens when too much power is given to animals like the ABC who don’t know what they are doing and how to use that power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxYmm5yCJBg&t=42s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxYmm5yCJBg
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Just in case you haven’t realised it, it’s not real but it illustrates my point.
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PM Trudeau of Canada has been paying the media in the name of emergency Covid payments and buying the media loyalty.
This snap Election he called couldn’t have come at a worse time as the Canadian anger has been displayed in every city and every venue he attends.
Totally unexpected to his poll saying that he was so popular.
His popularity may have been in his own mind as many Canadians are showing that ain’t the case.
The media loves and spins the narrative but his popularity has crashed with Canadian citizens.
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Dominion counted. Trudeau by a mile. !
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When there is a boycott or a company under pressure from wokists I immediately go and buy the product , and recommend it to as many friends as possible.
The woke are an evil bunch. Incapable of fighting fairly and in the open they resort to blackmail and shadowy tactics.
A meetup of the “Sleeping Giants” one of the more toxic woke lot, in a Sydney park garnered only a literal handful of people. This pathetic lot are utterly unrepresentative and miniscule. Any company that collapses due to pressure from the woke is utterly stupid.
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Can you elucidate for us what it is about the “woke” that you find so terrifying?
Mostly they’re just the centre-lefty cohorts that has always been with us – environmentalists, gay rights activists, Indigenous rights activists, Women’s Liberation, and so on. What is so scary about the fact that there is a significant percentage of the population who supports these movements and interests groups?
In fact all of them have become pretty-much the accepted reality, and they are all comfortably mainstream in modern Australia. Have you considered the possibility that your anti-woke extremism might actually be the fringe?
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Go on Tilba. Find quotes of Woke people who also respect alternative opinions and fight for free speech for those that they disagree with?
Woke and “politically correct” is self evidently “scientifically incorrect” or they wouldnt need to cancel and silence alternative opinions.
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Your task is impossible as you have defined woke to mean what you want and that does not include the things you are asking for.
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I don’t like the crazy left either – they give me the creeps. But I think it’s too easy to call “woke” – for opinions that the poster just disagrees with. And further – I think a lot of things called “woke” are pretty mainstream and supported by a lot of average, basically unpolitical Aussies.
I agree there are issues over what “the science” is – both climatologically and epidemiologically. These fields have been highly politicised, and a lot of data cherry-picking goes on, for sure.
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Got nothing eh?
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Sleeping Giants are a dangerous joke, I read that around 80-90% of their emails originate from about four IP addresses. That management in companies are prepared to offend half of their customer base and kowtow to these commercial terrorists simply demonstrates their cowardice and lack of integrity.
BTW I have not bought Cheers Cheese since the change of name, I would be interested to know what their sales figures have been like since they bowed down to one activist.
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Confirmed by my reading, it was just one activist.
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ScoMo is my local member. A while back I saw him campaigning in my suburb. As I walked past his booth, one of his lackeys asked me if I would vote for him. I said “NO” (loudly). ScoMo heard this, and asked me why. I gave him 3 reasons: The ABC, ‘Çlimate Change’ and the Brereton Report. I added ” I thought you were a better politician and human being than this” and walked away.
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Much acclaim.
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Scotty from Marketing wouldn’t be accused and abused for being too far left very often.
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“In a normal world, the BBC ought to care that people are leaving and want to give them what they want to get them back. Instead the BBC will no doubt beg the government for more money while it beats them over the head for not being leftist enough, and the government will give it cash. In the process the Deep State gatekeepers will become more entrenched.”
Sounds exactly like the CBC in Canada.
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