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    Don B
    November 25, 2021 at 8:22 am

    A pandemic of the vaccinated or Ivermectin ignored? 

     https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/a-pandemic-of-the-vaccinated-or-ivermectin-ignored/article_2fb8e67c-4c89-11ec-8a97-a7954a7ae6dd.html 

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      Don B
      November 25, 2021 at 8:30 am

      Related: A doctor has sued his hospital which has banned ivermectin, and other cheap, safe, off-label drugs. The court has agreed to try the lawsuit.

      *** BREAKING ***The Circuit Court in Norfolk will hear Dr. Marik’s lawsuit on the right to administer lifesaving treatments to his critically ill COVID-19 patients—medicines which Sentara Health System has banned.#CriticalUpdate

      https://twitter.com/covid19critical/status/1463342720450187270

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        Curious George
        November 25, 2021 at 11:15 am

        Isn’t the principle of medicine “Cause no harm”?
        What harm does ivermectin or HCQ do? Maybe they don’t help much. Banning them does a lot of harm. At least it has me depressed.

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          Mark+Allinson
          November 25, 2021 at 12:21 pm

          “Isn’t the principle of medicine “Cause no harm”?”

          That was before the majority of the medical profession switched their oath from Hippocrates to Dr Josef Mengele.

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          Catherine
          November 26, 2021 at 5:55 am

          Due to the increasing number of new infections, Portugal is reintroducing corona measures. The country has one of the highest vaccination rates in the world and had many measures scrapped. Some 87 percent of Portuguese are fully vaccinated.
          According to the measures, which will take effect on 1 December and which Prime Minister Antonio Costa announced on Thursday, everyone who enters the country by plane must be able to present a negative corona test, including vaccinated travelers. Airlines that take people without a valid test certificate can be fined 20,000 euros per passenger and suspended from their flight license. For catering visits, a corona pass is mandatory, teleworking is recommended and in many places inside it is again mandatory to wear a mouth mask.
          In order to curb any increase in infections after the holidays, Portuguese people are obliged to work from home in the first week of the new year. The school holidays are extended, cafes and discotheques close.

          It might be a good idea to learn from Europes Winter.

          The Netherlands:
          ‘This week the infection graph should have gone down, but it is not yet detected. With more than 23,000 new infections on Tuesday, an average of almost 40 ICU admissions per day and almost 250 new patients in the nursing wards, all signals are red.’

          Belgium:
          ‘With the current figures, we are on our way to 1,000 beds with corona patients in the intensive care units or even more. That says virologist Steven van Gucht. “Hopefully we will soon see the impact of the latest measures. Everyone can do their bit to contain the fourth wave.” :

          This should include the opportunity for doctors to discuss an early treatment plan with their patients instead of having to give the advise: “stay home and isolate”

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    David+Wojick
    November 25, 2021 at 8:25 am

    An interesting (but longish) post on small nuclear reactors.
    https://www.cfact.org/2021/11/23/small-modular-reactors-designing-nuclear-energy-for-african-landscapes/

    We have lots of SNRs in the US, running submarines and warships.

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    Tonyb
    November 25, 2021 at 8:31 am

    Surely this story isn’t true, which appears to be about forcible vaccination and compulsory quarantine

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/australian-army-begins-transferring-covid-positive-cases-contacts-quarantine-camps

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      Chad
      November 25, 2021 at 9:16 am

      Heavily distorted to fit the narrative.
      But yes , positive tested parties from the Aboriginal community have been relocated to an isolation camp in order to protect the rest of that community.
      Remember, it is believed that the Aboriginal communities may be much more vunerable to Covid and its effects, than other genetic types.
      But as you will notice , only 20 ADF (Military) personel were involved, mainly for transport logistics etc.
      Police and Medical Authorities are the lead actors in these situations.
      And sure it will be the subject of much debate as to why/ how this was done !

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      Chris
      November 25, 2021 at 9:34 am

      Yes , it is true. The Minister for the Northern Territory was almost rabid in his TV interview against anti-vaxxers, it was all their fault. People in two aboriginal settlements have tested positive for covid. These two groups are basically one large family. Aboriginal people have a lot of health issues mostly due to lifestyle choices . There has been a quarantine facility built in the Northern Territory, ostensibly for incoming tourists that need to be quarantined. And yes, he did ask the Army to take everyone who had tested positive to Howard Springs.

      Is it disturbing ?……YES.

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        Forrest Gardener
        November 25, 2021 at 9:38 am

        Yes Chris everything about aboriginal health is disturbing.

        What were the alternatives? They sure can’t isolate when they live in overcrowded housing.

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          Chris
          November 25, 2021 at 5:43 pm

          I agree Forrest, everything about aboriginal health is disturbing. It’s the Howard Springs facility that I find worrying. Who will they put out there next – the dreaded unvaccinated?

          If you had told me two years ago that our police would attack citizens; push old ladies out of the way and pepper spray them like a cockroach; that people would be shot in the back with rubber bullets; that unmarked militia would be doing a Premiers will. That we would be on house arrest and masked up . The unvaxxed are now are being referred to as lesser human beings, I would never have thought this possible .
          I am still shocked that we lost our democracy so quickly and so easily .

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            Forrest Gardener
            November 25, 2021 at 6:13 pm

            No doubt the rhetoric, government dictates and police actions are way out of line. And there has been precious little resistance from oppositions and civil rights groups.

            But whether Australia has lost its democracy remains to be seen at forthcoming elections. I expect the elections to be as free and fair as they always are. However, my guess is that voters will be presented with the usual choice of six of one and a half dozen of the other.

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      Strop
      November 25, 2021 at 9:50 am

      There’s no mention in the article of forced vaccination. At least I didn’t see it.

      But yes, covid positive people and close contacts are being moved from that community to the quarantine facility. Don’t know if actually being forced or army are just providing transport.

      The Chief Health Officer does have the authority under the emergency legislation to relocate and isolate someone. An “authorised officer” could assist them with that, but typically army personnel are not authorised officers. The CHO would have to have made them authorised officers or they can’t do it. The legislation allows an authorised officer to forcibly remove someone from an area but doesn’t appear to allow an authorised officer to force someone into quarantine. Even if the CHO directs that person to quarantine.

      See sections 52 & 53.
      https://legislation.nt.gov.au/api/sitecore/Act/PDF?id=12142

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        Gee Aye
        November 25, 2021 at 9:53 am

        No one is being forced but I’m sure that MP knows otherwise.

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          Forrest Gardener
          November 25, 2021 at 10:46 am

          Be a better troll. Somewhere else.

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            Wet Mountains
            November 26, 2021 at 2:00 am

            I genially feel sorry for him. Day after day, I read his comments with pure wonder. Being a negative personality myself, I can only try to imagine the world inside the mind of such a mega-negative person? I heard it said about someone years ago, “He has a severe case of opticalrectalitis. May come from too many years alone in a hot tub (Greely, CO.)

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          Mark+Allinson
          November 25, 2021 at 12:29 pm

          That’s right, as our PM says, no one in Australia will be forced to get the jab, because that would be against the Constitution and against our humanitarian principles.

          No, no one will be forced to take it.

          But everything that makes makes your life liveable, such as socialising at clubs, going to movies or art galleries and being invited to friends houses, will be taken from you until you relent and get the shot.

          But no, no one will be forced. That would be horrible.

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          MP
          November 25, 2021 at 12:46 pm

          No, but as always your the expert of everything. Sure, when they said get into the wagon there was a mad rush.

          Do you think they were given an option?

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            Gee Aye
            November 25, 2021 at 12:51 pm

            yes. But I bet the community was putting the most pressure on them.

            “Don’t worry mate, bring your disease into our overcrowded house tonight”

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              Annie
              November 25, 2021 at 1:08 pm

              Being ‘unvaxxed’ does not mean being infected. Being ‘vaxxed’ does not equate with freedom from infection.
              Why do so many equate ‘unvaxxed’ with ‘infected’?

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                Sambar
                November 25, 2021 at 2:25 pm

                Having a bit of a play here Annie. I stress mathematics and statistics are not my strong points and lots of supposition, but for what its worth
                1/ Population of Victoria 6.6 million
                2/ Population of rural and regional Victoria 1.45 million
                Assuming that rural and regional areas are vaccinated at a lower rate than city dwellers , we are faced with 1100 average daily infections THAT ARE PRIMARILY URBAN infections

                Ergo, and only guessing, most of these daily infections must be in the highest populations of the vaccinated

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                Gee Aye
                November 25, 2021 at 3:53 pm

                Was that to me Annie? I never mentioned vacc

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                clarence.t
                November 25, 2021 at 5:24 pm

                You said “bring your disease into our overcrowded house tonight””

                That implies you and others think the pure bloods would be carrying the infection.

                Either be more careful with how you say things, or stop denying you said them.

                In fact, it is far more likely that the twojabs will attend parties, crowd etc, while they are in an infection stage, because the jabs mask the symptoms while still carrying a viral load.

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                Peter C
                November 25, 2021 at 5:31 pm

                Spot on Annie,

                The Professor denies that he made any such assertion.

                Was that to me Annie? I never mentioned vacc

                I suppose that he means that the populace may be making mistaken judgements. He can explain himself if he wants to.

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                Chris
                November 25, 2021 at 5:47 pm

                Because that is the subliminal message that is being put out. Unvaxxed, you can’t go into the coffee shop, or the gym or Bunnings because YOU could give covid to the vaxxed. !!!!

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                Forrest Gardener
                November 25, 2021 at 6:19 pm

                Yes Annie. The central medical issue is whether a person is infected not whether they are injected.

                Sadly there are powerful forces who want the issue to be reversed. So far they are dominating. They will lose but not before they have inflicted vast death and destruction.

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                Gee Aye
                November 26, 2021 at 9:22 am

                The context was taking away someone with the disease. My comment made no assertion about their vacc status. It was not an issue.

                Please do better at reading.

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              MP
              November 25, 2021 at 1:10 pm

              I am pretty sure it started in the same overcrowded houses, same people mustered into the wagons.
              So what were the options if they were as you seem to indicate given them.

              Check your white privilege.

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              clarence.t
              November 25, 2021 at 3:21 pm

              Come on, ga. Haven’t you been paying any attention whatsoever !!

              You know that the twojabs can carry the same viral load as the pure bloods.

              Its just that the twojabs don’t get the symptoms as badly, so would be more likely to be mixing with other when in an infection stage.

              If a pure blood gets the Covid, at least they will probably get the sniffles, and would stay away from others.

              The next pandemic will be the twojabs spreading the bug among the twojabs.

              I hope too much doesn’t go wrong for you and your fellow twojabs, as the jab efficacy drops off and a third, fourth, fifth jab is needed.. !

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        Dennis
        November 25, 2021 at 10:07 am

        There are many stories published and discoverable on the internet regarding ADF medical people being involved in vaccinating indigenous communities, travelling to those communities all around Australia, even in Western NSW. Most of those communities welcome the ADF personnel and the vaccination protection rate is now increasing into line with the general communities, NSW remains in from with close to 95% most now fully vaccinated and some awaiting second vaccination.

        The sensationalist fake new media overseas have blatantly lied about this indigenous vaccination programme, as they did about ADF personnel assisting State Police handle hotel and home quarantine security and monitoring.

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        GD
        November 25, 2021 at 11:17 pm

        There’s no mention in the article of forced vaccination

        There is in this video by a Northern Territory indigenous woman.

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        GD
        November 26, 2021 at 12:09 am

        NITV on SBS has this article denying forced vaccinations.

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      OldOzzie
      November 25, 2021 at 10:05 am

      appears to be about forcible vaccination

      Interesting, just received text message “due to new regulations by the NSW state government the cancer centre will require proof of a double dose of a COVID-19 Vaccination or a Negative COVID test within 72 Hrs before your appointment”

      As the only one in a blended 3 generation family who has not had a COVID Test (even 4 year old has had 2 tests) as I have never felt ill, and as at hospital every 3 weeks Bloods, Temp 36.3 and Oxygen 99 last week, keep check on health, find it fascinating that this requirement has come up – Well Taxpayers keep paying for PCR Tests – who is making money out of these tests and the Vaccines don’t seem to be working as we are already into 3rd shot with 4th/5th/??? to come

      Still waiting for Novavax, but TGA seem to be dragging their feet – What was in Feds Contract with Pfizer?

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      Wirebird
      November 25, 2021 at 11:32 am

      I think this tweet, by a health worker, is interesting and rings true. It is long, so I’ve condensed it, but he begins:
      “Don’t know who will see this, but as I’ve got plenty of time on my hands I thought I might as well counterbalance all the misinformation out there.
      I’m indigenous, currently covid positive and am currently staying at the Howard Springs quarantine facility. The camp is not used to drag away black mob. In fact this camp has been used for months and has had hundreds of non indigenous people come through it in the exact same process for months.”
      “The camp facilities are pretty good. The food is amazing (but I’ve lost taste now). WiFi is free. Everyone has access to their phones and are in constant contact with family on the outside. I’m sure my family is sick of me calling all the time.”
      Further on, he explains that “Isolating at home is not feasible when 20-30 people live in one home.” And “The Raaf always helps out in crisis times, including floods and cyclones.”
      He denounces the BS stories about force being used, and ends:
      “Indigenous people on the ground have continually tried to raise awareness of things affecting our people, including long term systemic racism. To try to use us as props now is disgusting.”

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        shortie+of+greenbank
        November 25, 2021 at 12:54 pm

        in general my understanding is the indigenous have had a good relationship with the military for a long time. It is state or territory people, such as police, they don’t like.

        Served with an aboriginal bloke in the army years ago. He was so stoked to be able to serve.

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        Gee Aye
        November 25, 2021 at 1:03 pm

        Link for the tweet please.

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        Wirebird
        November 25, 2021 at 2:57 pm

        Further to my earlier comment, the twitter name is Luke Ellis. In the same tweet he explains:

        “I was a part of the health team that did vaccination drives at Rockhole and Binjari in the past. I’ve walked to every house in Rockhole fighting camp dogs along the way to talk to people about the vaccine. In the past people have been hesitant about getting the vaccine.

        People have been hesitant because of misinformation. But in all my time doing vaccines in the community, not a single person was ‘forced’ to have it. We respected people’s wishes to decline even though we knew that this could potentially bring disaster.
        What we have found though is that the people who declined in the past often want the vaccine once they discover covid is in their community. We have had an increase in vax rates amongst all people in the community during past lockdowns.
        Once covid becomes ‘real’ and tangible it changes people’s perception of the vaccine.”

        “People on the ground [health workers] are working themselves to standstill, in 40 degree heat in PPE that multiplies that heat. I’ve worked in that PPE in that heat for an hour and you collect about a litre of sweat in it. These people are working multiple hour shifts…”

        https://twitter.com/lukeae88/status/1463286412707450882?s=21

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          MP
          November 25, 2021 at 5:36 pm

          Lets have a look at that claim,
          I came up on Thursday night. When I was transported I was taken to the airport in an ambulance and taken up in a small plane. It was obvious to me at the time that this process wouldn’t work as case numbers increased, that help would be needed.

          Medevac’d straight to Howard Springs, I stoped reading the propaganda after that. You would think after 20 months of propaganda, they would be able to think it through better.

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    Lance
    November 25, 2021 at 8:45 am

    Chicago Judge orders Illinois Hospital to allow attending physician to administer IVM to ICU covid patient at family request.

    5 days after initial treatment, patient was removed from ventilator. 3 days later, Patient left Hospital.

    https://rescue.substack.com/p/a-judge-stands-up-to-a-hospital-step

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      Forrest Gardener
      November 25, 2021 at 11:07 am

      Good news.

      In days of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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      Analitik
      November 25, 2021 at 3:57 pm

      And yet the calls continue for RCT and the “fact-checkers” will refer to this as a sample of one.

      How many samples of one are required to be significant?

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        Gee Aye
        November 25, 2021 at 4:01 pm

        Lots. you’ve spammed this unthreaded with multiple unfounded bunkum.

        Why?

        And I thought the mods tolerance of me was remarkable.

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        clarence.t
        November 25, 2021 at 9:55 pm

        “unfounded bunkum. “

        None of which has been countered…. except by other unfounded bunkum and spam.

        IVM has been highly effective in many areas of the world.

        It is totally safe at human dose levels.

        The only reason not to use it is because it would devoid the reason for handing huge amounts of money to big pharma to pay for short-lived, dangerous, experimental Clayton’s-vaccines

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        Gerry
        November 26, 2021 at 2:02 am

        The word “significant” means different things to different people …people who beat the infection feel their life is significant and could care less about statistical “significance”. Which is most important ?

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    el+gordo
    November 25, 2021 at 8:45 am

    This is from BoM in late August, the models are useless and clearly indicates why BoM was reluctant to call La Nina until the last moment.

    ‘The northern Australian rainfall onset is affected significantly by the phase of the El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO). ENSO is currently neutral. Most climate model outlooks indicate the central tropical Pacific is likely to cool over the coming months but remain ENSO-neutral. Only one of seven models surveyed by the Bureau indicate this cooling will be sustained enough and cool enough to meet La Niña thresholds in spring or early summer, with two remaining models indicating a brief cooling just to La Niña thresholds. The cooling of the tropical Pacific is likely contributing to the earlier onset likelihood.’

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    Sambar
    November 25, 2021 at 9:18 am

    Local radio report that all adults should not consider themselves fully vacinated until they have had their 3rd “booster” this is required because after your second vacination protection only lasts for a few months. No comment of course on how long a “booster” shot will last. Will this also only provide a “few months” protection thereby meaning that the entire population will have to have 4 shots per year? i.e. One every few (3) months

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      Forrest Gardener
      November 25, 2021 at 9:41 am

      It’s the old story about when your only tool is a hammer everything looks like a nail.

      The booster shots will last until there is either a real vaccine available, or a real treatment available.

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      Dennis
      November 25, 2021 at 10:11 am

      I read recently that with Astra Zeneca the UK experience is that fully vaccinated people continue to have protection and do not yet need a booster who were first vaccinated from December 2020 onwards. The monitoring and evaluation is continuing.

      However I noted that our PM received a booster recently, but I think he had Pfizer?

      Doesn’t it follow that seasonal influenza vaccine requires a booster every year so COVID-19 vaccine will need one?

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        Sambar
        November 25, 2021 at 10:37 am

        A point that I don’t understand is why Pfizer seems to be the only choice of booster. If AZ provides longer cover why not go with the same option?
        Also I don’t think the comparison to the flu shot is completely valid. It’s my understanding that flu shots are adjusted annually to take into account variations / mutations to the “flu virus”. This gives you protection against the most like variety for the next flu season i.e. 12 months, whereas 2 or 3 corona shot appears to give some protection for a very limited time. ( 3months?) So you could need up to 3 shots to make it through just one “season”

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          OldOzzie
          November 25, 2021 at 12:37 pm

          Pfizer employee ‘stole vaccine secrets’

          Pfizer has accused a departing employee of making off with a massive trove of confidential documents, including trade secrets related to its Covid-19 vaccine and other drugs, and then attempting an elaborate cover-up.

          The Big Pharma firm launched a suit against the staffer, identified as Chun Xiao Li, earlier this week, alleging that she “uploaded over 12,000 files – including scores of confidential Pfizer documents – from her Pfizer-issued laptop to a personal Google Drive account” in late October, and then transferred those files to her own private device.

          “Due to the sheer number of documents Ms. Li misappropriated, Pfizer has yet to understand the full scope of trade-secret and confidential information in her possession,” the company said, adding that while Li now possesses “thousands of documents potentially related to numerous Pfizer vaccines,” the lawsuit is focused on its Covid-19 immunization and monoclonal antibody therapies.

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            Custer Van Cleef
            November 25, 2021 at 4:32 pm

            A potential whistle blower.

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            Lucky
            November 26, 2021 at 1:24 am

            Perhaps,
            1. Pfizer have been hiding the data showing how effective and safe this jab really is. Stand by for all that to be leaked soon.
            2. Same as 1. but the opposite.
            3. Or, the trove could be the original file documents containing unwelcome information which is now ‘lost’.

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        Forrest Gardener
        November 25, 2021 at 11:11 am

        Dennis I don’t think anything “follows” at the moment. The powers that be are FUBAR.

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        shortie+of+greenbank
        November 25, 2021 at 1:00 pm

        the Swedish data begs to differ on that.

        Astra 4 months = 0% protection
        Pfizer 7 months = 0% protection
        Moderna 6 months = 59% protection

        Astra 8 months = -19% protection

        This is protection from contracting it not hospitalisation or death

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        clarence.t
        November 25, 2021 at 3:26 pm

        “Doesn’t it follow that seasonal influenza vaccine requires a booster every year so COVID-19 vaccine will need one?”

        No, the flu vaccines are modified each year to try to account for the probable strain(s) of flu that may occur, coming from the NH winter.

        The Covid jab “N” (as N tends to infinity), is because the jab efficacy wears off.

        These are very different reasons.

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          Jo Nova
          November 25, 2021 at 5:05 pm

          Yes and No. The flu jab wears off too. While a real flu infection provokes a lifelong response, the flu vax doesn’t.

          I don’t think there is any vaccine yet that gives people better protection than the real disease. That may come one day, but at the moment our immune systems can tell the difference between something that makes us sick and something that is a pale imitation of it. We would hope that our immune systems don’t waste resources leaping to generate the full response to things which are essentially (supposedly) harmless.

          It’s the eternal struggle of vaccination — how to trick our immune systems into caring about something that isn’t a threat.

          One day we will understand our immune systems well enough to produce vaccines that work better than a disease for immunity, but we are not there yet.

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            clarence.t
            November 25, 2021 at 5:18 pm

            The main point is that the extra jabs are not for different strains of the Covid bug.

            They are because of drop of efficacy of the first two jabs, not for protection against new strains.

            That is different from the flu vaccine that is altered each year for new strains.

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            Gerry
            November 26, 2021 at 2:11 am

            Well said Jo …. Pretty much summed it up in that sentence ….”It’s the eternal struggle of vaccination — how to trick our immune systems into caring about something that isn’t a threat.”

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            PeterS
            November 26, 2021 at 3:14 am

            Vaccine: a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

            This commonly used definition of a vaccine means that it’s not about how to trick our immune systems into caring about something that isn’t a threat. It’s about how to trick our immune system into caring about something that is a threat without inducing the disease. Huge difference.

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      OldOzzie
      November 25, 2021 at 11:24 am

      In just the third quarter of 2021, Pfizer reported its sales rose to $24.1 billion, up 134 percent from a year ago, thanks in large part to its COVID vaccine. The company said it anticipates sales of COVID vaccine to top $36 billion in 2021 and $29 billion in 2022.

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      OriginalSteve
      November 26, 2021 at 5:19 pm

      Really good video by psychologist explaining why the covid narrative creates in effect mass hypnosis.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLDpZ8daIVM

      Dr Mattias Desmet, Professor of Cliical Psychology

      Solution : Talk to people rationally about the danger of the totalitarianism, which breaks the current hypnosis as it diverts thier anxiety onto something else.

      Video is very good and informative.

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    Tides of Mudgee
    November 25, 2021 at 9:24 am

    All’s well, thanks ToM

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    max
    November 25, 2021 at 9:26 am

    leftist global warming believer in action:

    Pelosi Bought $25 Million, 11,000 sq ft Beachside Mansion…in DeSantis’ State of Florida!

    ‘talk is cheap’, and ‘practice what you preach’. missing in action.

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    max
    November 25, 2021 at 9:36 am

    The World Health Organization is urging the public to practice Covid mitigation tactics – including masking and distancing – regardless of vaccination status

    no such warnings after you get vaccinated against:

    Measles is a highly contagious infectious disease caused
    Chickenpox is a highly infectious viral infection
    Mumps is a highly contagious disease,

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    Brenda Spence
    November 25, 2021 at 9:46 am

    I cannot believe this!

    Astrazenica had 23,848 subjects in their trial. One person died in the placebo group and none in the vaccinated group, therefore they claimed 100% protection.

    Pfizer had 18,198 people in the vaxxed group and 8 got sick or 0.04%. In the placebo group of 18,325, 162 developed symptoms or 0.88%.
    From this ratio they calculated that it was 95% effective against the infection.

    This is called relative risk reduction. In reality the absolute risk reduction was
    AZ 0.01%, and Pfizer 0.084%.

    What a difference those numbers make!

    It is claimed that the RRR numbers sound way better so that’s why they use them.

    What a crock!

    Maryanne Demasi, PhD, was a presenter on Catalyst ungil the program was axed by the ABC. She has some interesting stats here

    https://maryannedemasi.com/publications/f/covid-19-vaccine-benefits-exaggerated-say-experts

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    David Maddison
    November 25, 2021 at 9:46 am

    I’m sick of hearing the term “fully vaccinated” in relation to COVID. Vaccinated against what exactly? You can still get it and give it. At best, supposedly you will get slightly less sick if you get infected, assuming those figures are honest. And if you’re lucky you won’t suffer a short or long term vaccine injury.

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      Sam
      November 25, 2021 at 10:02 am

      Still a lot better than dying, supposedly.

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      Dennis
      November 25, 2021 at 10:21 am

      The Federal Deputy Chief Medical Officer Dr Nick Coatsworth spoke on Sky News – Credlin this week about vaccinations and part of his comment included that there should no longer be restrictions on people, vaccinated people are protected and should not worry about coming in contact with unvaccinated people and/or carriers of COVID-19. He pointed out that vaccination does not make people immune from the virus and they can be carriers. However vaccinated people are protected from the worst resulting possibilities the virus can inflict.

      He confirmed (without being asked) what the Minister for Health Greg Hunt told journalists when answering a question about Ivermectin, Hunt said doctors are free to prescribe Ivermectin in hospitals and it is administered intravenously. Nick Coatsworth said that people with the virus who need to be hospitalised will be given anti-viral treatments and most will recover.

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        Forrest Gardener
        November 25, 2021 at 11:18 am

        Slowly, slowly the truth will escape. It always does but not before those who want to suppress the truth have done their damage.

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      Grogery
      November 25, 2021 at 11:10 am

      I’m sick of hearing the term “fully vaccinated” in relation to COVID

      Agree.

      And I’m sick of hearing terms such as “anti-vaxxer”, “vaccine hesitant”, etc.

      These terms are being used to blindly describe anybody who does not want the covid injection(s), without any idea of a person’s stance on traditional vaccines prior to covid19.

      For example, I had all the usual vaccines growing up and had a whooping cough one recently as my daughter had a baby – I understood her concern.

      I have never had a flu vaccine and I will not be having any of the current covid injections on offer in Australia. Having said all that, I am not an anti-vaxxer, just an anti-covid-vaxxer at this point in time.

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      Mark+Allinson
      November 25, 2021 at 2:26 pm

      Although it does sound like a medical reference, “fully vaccinated” is a political term and really just means “fully compliant with government policy.”

      And one can only maintain the “fully vaccinated” status so long as one continues to accept the “boosters”.

      You might have had both shots and half a dozens “boosters”, but if you happen to miss “booster” number 7, you will find yourself in the camp of “anti-vaxxer” very quickly.

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    el+gordo
    November 25, 2021 at 10:18 am

    The wettest November in 150 years for south east Australia, essentially unprecedented.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10237241/Australia-weather-Wettest-November-150-years-NSW-pummeled-rain.html

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      RickWill
      November 25, 2021 at 10:57 am

      Tim Flannery – hold your rotting head in utter shame.

      Tim the fool accepted the incompetent predictions coming from the BoM and CSIRO models and guided government policy. This nonsense is being amplified many times. Huge resources being wasted on all manner of nonsense.

      The really bad part is that it diverts resources from real problems and real solutions. Australia should be using those resources on drought and flood proofing the continent.

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        Dennis
        November 25, 2021 at 11:44 am

        I recently heard a very interesting discussion on the car radio while travelling about harvesting wet season rainfall in Northern Australia and the Coalition’s plan for an extension of the Ord River Irrigation Area around Kununurra WA by building new dams to open new irrigation farming land across NT and NQ.

        One of the comments was that before that enormous expense was considered regardless of the benefits to the nation the amount of excess water discharged from the Old River Dam every day should be piped south into southern states instead of discharging out to sea.

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          Hanrahan
          November 25, 2021 at 9:12 pm

          I am a nay-sayer on all versions of Bradfield until someone shows me how any version can work.

          L. Argyle is only 90 M ASL [let google-earth be your friend].
          It cannot be gravity fed anywhere so it must have a number of pump stations.
          To be useful it must handle large amounts of water so the pumps must be big. When Townsville is dry and we need water from the Burdekin Falls Dam the cost of pumping is a burden on the council. To get Water from L. Argyle to the Murray system is > 2,000 km, from the Houghton to Townsville a mere 30 km with much less water needed.
          The Murray is a BIG system so anything less than three 1 m pipes you might as well piss in it [I am totally unqualified to say that so any corrections welcome]
          Because it must be pumped the system cannot be open canal [even if there were no evaporative losses] which is expensive.
          Frankly, there is no HV grid power on the route, without power “Ya dreamin'”.
          Run your de-sal plants, they are already built and would need less power.

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    another ian
    November 25, 2021 at 10:24 am

    An interesting thought. Then try the “journalistic thinking” at the end –

    “further to this comment: https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/10/29/w-o-o-d-29-october-2021/#comment-152675

    A commenter to today’s Dr. Campbell video says:

    Could Ivermectin be changing the genetics of COVID through blocking NSP 14 protein? In Utter Pradesh and Japan the decline in covid cases happened about 10-14 days after ivermectin seemed to be introduced in a massive scale. In your video about Japan, you mentioned that the nsp14 mutated and could be the cause of the great decline in Japan. Could Ivermectin have precipitated that mutation and decline? Apparently Ivermectin binds well to nsp14. See Front. Microbiology 25 January 2021 by AF Eweas et al, Molecular Docking Reveals Ivermectin and Remdesivir as Potential Repurposed Drugs Against SARS-CoV-2.

    Interesting idea. I have not seen that paper.

    And if anybody wants to hear what a journalist thinks (Bueller?)

    He saw that the African countries who used IVM were doing better and concluded …

    … maybe IVM only works if you have worms!”

    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/10/29/w-o-o-d-29-october-2021/#comment-152688

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      Gee Aye
      November 25, 2021 at 10:49 am

      it wasn’t introduced in japan.

      There is no mechanism for ivermectin to cause a declining mutation 9whatver that is), it is about as close to suggesting magic as there is in genetics.

      The other unexplained thing is what happened to the non-mutated highly infectious viruses. They didn’t just disappear and they had plenty of non ivermectin taking humans to infect (basically all of them in japan).

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      OldOzzie
      November 25, 2021 at 10:53 am

      Reply from The Department of Health

      The National COVID-19 Clinical Evidence Taskforce brings together the peak health professional bodies across Australia whose members are providing clinical care to people with COVID-19.

      The Taskforce undertakes continuous evidence surveillance to identify and rapidly synthesise emerging research to provide national, evidence-based guidelines for the clinical care of people with COVID-19.The Taskforce’s current advice on ivermectin is “Not recommended; Do not use ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 outside of randomised trials with appropriate ethical approval.” The certainty of evidence to support the use of ivermectin in relation to all-cause mortality, invasive mechanical ventilation, ICU admission, adverse events (including serious adverse events) and clinical improvement is low, due to risk of bias and imprecision in the clinical trials.

      Evidence to support viral clearance, time to clinical recovery and duration of hospital stay is also very limited. This is a result of study sample sizes being small and in select populations, a lack of peer-reviewed data, and insufficient evidence to support claims, including studies that have drawn incorrect conclusions, or have incorrectly extrapolated information based on laboratory studies. This means that the standard of evidence for the use of ivermectin as a therapeutic for COVID-19 is insufficient.

      Research evidence comparing ivermectin to standard care, as published by the Taskforce, has shown some effectiveness against COVID-19 disease. However, problems with the clinical data mean there remains significant uncertainty over whether ivermectin is more effective and safer than standard care in treating patients with COVID-19. For there to be certainty in the evidence from clinical trial data, trials need to be conducted with large numbers of participants across different demographics, with varying comorbidities. The trials should be randomised, and papers should be peer reviewed before final publication. This ensures that the treatment will work for the intended audience and will lead to better outcomes than standard care.

      Ivermectin has common side effects and associated harms, including diarrhoea, nausea and dizziness. For any therapeutic to be considered for use in clinical practice, the benefits must out way the negative side effects in the intended audience. The recommendations and their rationale are available at: http://www.covid19evidence.net.au.

      The Taskforce continues to monitor evidence and consider the effectiveness of therapeutics for both the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 infection, including for ivermectin. If ivermectin was found to be a safe and effective treatment for COVID-19, the relevant guidelines will be updated accordingly.

      It is important for Australians to have access to credible and timely information about COVID-19 vaccines. It is a large and complex project, and the information you are seeking may change over time—that is why we strongly encourage you to stay up-to-date on all news and announcements, by regularly checking the Department of Health’s website at: http://www.health.gov.au

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        Forrest Gardener
        November 25, 2021 at 11:26 am

        Gosh. All those words. My translation is “Not Invented Here. Research will be suppressed at all costs”.

        And I had to smile to myself. At first reading I saw “Department of Truth” instead of “Department of Health”.

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        Bozotheclown
        November 26, 2021 at 4:35 am

        If ivermectin was found to be a safe and effective treatment for COVID-19, the relevant guidelines will be updated accordingly.

        Freudian error in syntax there.

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    Tides of Mudgee
    November 25, 2021 at 11:22 am

    Here is a clip regarding the “vaccine” from South African Physician Dr. Shankara Chetty who talks about “The Bigger Plan”, Bitchute 11 mins. https://www.bitchute.com/video/IQoUmvcoiStX/ ToM

    Thanks mods – understood.

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    Gary S
    November 25, 2021 at 11:27 am

    In days of yore, we used to read the Sunday newspapers to gain perspective on the news from the preceding week, as this was the only day we were at leisure to do so. So it was with alacrity that I opened the Sunday Herald-Sun in Melbourne last week to read about what was probably the largest public demonstration in the history of this city. Starting on the cover, the full page picture was of a cricket player guilty of ‘sexting’ being comforted by his forgiving wife. ‘Who gives a rat’s toss bag’, thought I. As I leafed through the pages, there on page three was a lovely picture of a litter of puppies, cute, I admit but not really the ‘news’ I hoped for. Then I came across, wait for it, a FIVE page ‘special’ on aforementioned cricket player. Suffice to say, I had to eventually turn to page 57 before finding any mention of the demonstration and that was a small picture captioned on the comments page, only published because it accompanied a comment by a reader. I realise so-called journalists have been captured and thoroughly brainwashed, not to mention bought, for many years now, but this is such a blatant, p-ss poor example of their ‘craft’, that I don’t really see how they are worthy of the name anymore.
    Next Sunday, I might just be able to find something else to fill in my time, I’m very sure my wife has a list.

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      Forrest Gardener
      November 25, 2021 at 11:38 am

      I haven’t read a newspaper in years. I can’t remember whether I jettisoned them before or after “breakfast television” and TV news generally.

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      Gee Aye
      November 25, 2021 at 12:47 pm

      Gary… buy the Saturday paper instead and read it on Sunday. No puppies in there.

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        Strop
        November 25, 2021 at 1:46 pm

        But a good amount of puppy poop.

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          Gee Aye
          November 25, 2021 at 8:17 pm

          I took your lead. You said you read the week on Sunday. Ok, a paper published from Saturday, which is literally published as a week review misses one day in the last 7 but it actually fills the criteria minus 1/7.

          I loved papers in europe many years ago like the guardian weekly and the economist which did an excellent job of this

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        Gary S
        November 25, 2021 at 4:56 pm

        Surely they can’t ‘report’ Saturday’s events when that day’s paper has already been issued in the morning?

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      Forrest Gardener
      November 25, 2021 at 11:48 am

      Another data point supporting the idea that big is the enemy of good.

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      OldOzzie
      November 25, 2021 at 12:12 pm

      The workhorse of the Boeing fleet, the 737 debuted in January 1967 with mini-skirted stewardesses from Pacific Southwest Airlines standing on the wings. But it was never popular. “It’s like a sh–ty pickup,” Gordon Bethune, a former Boeing executive who also ran Continental Airlines, told Robison.

      By the time a fourth redesign of the 737 was given the go-ahead in 2011, largely in a bid to counter the growing threat of Airbus’s A320neo model, the plane was christened the 737-MAX but still failed to impress. “It’s a pig with lipstick,” one former Boeing pilot told Robison. “Such a kludge of an airplane,” remarked the company’s ex-engineer Rick Ludtke. “Designed by clowns, who in turn are supervised by monkeys,” said one employee who had grown tired of the endless mistakes.

      As Robison writes, “Just like the original 737, the design was quick and dirty.”

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      Hanrahan
      November 26, 2021 at 1:15 pm

      The 787 is still mired in quality control issues, the latest is in the epoxy wings.

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    Dennis
    November 25, 2021 at 11:38 am

    It is a spectacle, a rare sight and it has not been seen since 2012 — Copeton Dam near Inverell in northern New South Wales reached capacity overnight and it is the talk of the town.

    Key points:

    Copeton Dam is full for the first time since 2012
    The dam is now spilling, with flows increasing to 10,000 megaliters per day
    Irrigators are nervously watching the releases, with their potential for more flooding
    The dam is said to be almost three times the size of Sydney Harbour and is spilling for the first time in almost a decade.

    Peter Caddey, Inverell shire’s manager of tourism and marketing said it was a magnificent sight.

    “It really is a sight to behold,” he said.

    “She’s cracked the 100 per cent mark now and it’s only about the fourth time since she was built [it was completed in 1976] that she’s actually gone over it.

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    Robert Swan
    November 25, 2021 at 11:43 am

    the benefits must out way the negative side effects

    Got through spell-check. Publish.

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    TedM
    November 25, 2021 at 12:03 pm

    Maybe another reason to worry about the covid19 vaccines.
    Acute coronary syndrome (ACS) significantly increased in patients after receiving mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.
    https://www.thecardiologyadvisor.com/home/topics/acs/acute-coronary-syndrome-acs-biomarkers-mrna-covid19-vaccine/

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1462050738079686667

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      Analitik
      November 25, 2021 at 4:29 pm

      Here is the abstract of the study that the article is based on

      A total of 566 pts, aged 28 to 97, M:F ratio 1:1 seen in a preventive cardiology practice had a new PULS test drawn from 2 to 10 weeks following the 2nd COVID shot and was compared to the previous PULS score drawn 3 to 5 months previously pre- shot. Baseline IL-16 increased from 35=/-20 above the norm to 82 =/- 75 above the norm post-vac; sFas increased from 22+/- 15 above the norm to 46=/-24 above the norm post-vac; HGF increased from 42+/-12 above the norm to 86+/-31 above the norm post-vac. These changes resulted in an increase of the PULS score from 11% 5 yr ACS risk to 25% 5 yr ACS risk. At the time of this report, these changes persist for at least 2.5 months post second dose of vac

      https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

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    Gbees
    November 25, 2021 at 12:12 pm

    Anyone seen/done any analysis on the proposed replacement energy system (windfarms, solar panels, and battery) replacement for the Wallerawang Power Station which was demolished yesterday?

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      Chad
      November 25, 2021 at 12:32 pm

      Last thing i remember was that it would be the sight for a large “Big Battery” facility as part og the many times spruked NSW “Renewable Energy Hub”

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      Dennis
      November 25, 2021 at 12:34 pm

      A power station in Lithgow, New South Wales, was partially demolished on November 24 to make way for a renewable energy hub, according to local news reports. The power station had been idle since 2014, and was acquired by Greenspot in late 2020. A battery storage system has been proposed for the site, according to Greenspot’s website. This video posted to Facebook by Chris Jonkers shows the moment demolition crews brought down the chimney stacks at the Wallerawang power station. A boiler house was also demolished, local media reported. Credit: Chris Jonkers via Storyful

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        Dennis
        November 25, 2021 at 12:38 pm

        The far greater generating capacity Liddell Power Station in the NSW Hunter Valley is scheduled for closure in 2023, there are 4 generator units each of 500 MW capacity.

        But don’t worry about it there will be renewables solutions to replace it – so THEY say.

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      Analitik
      November 25, 2021 at 2:52 pm

      It’s been offline since 2014 so there is no effect from its demolition.
      Liddell’s 3/4 shutdown is what will break the AEMC grid over the succeeding summers (Hazelwood’s shutdown took the grid to the edge – Liddell’s will push it over).

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        Ronin
        November 25, 2021 at 3:09 pm

        Bring it on.

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          Analitik
          November 25, 2021 at 3:50 pm

          You have your genny all fueled up and tested? I have.

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            Hanrahan
            November 25, 2021 at 5:52 pm

            You might know Analitik, if your genny may sit for a year between uses which fuel is more stable, diesel or petrol and are LPG gennys available?

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              MP
              November 25, 2021 at 7:14 pm

              Petrol/Diesel you can add an anti fungal to either, you just drain it out or run a preservative to protect from corrosion. Diesel is noisy and mine gets a vibration up, so in a shed away from the house.
              Petrol is very quite and good price, need to know your power draw to size it, hot water is out, but mine runs the shed 2 freezers and compressor. House everything, 2 freezers, fridge, computers, TV and struggles boiling the jug on top of that, but does it.

              Mine is hard wired to a switching breaker, (mains to genset) this is a must. Think mine is 10 or 12 amps so you have to look at start up currents, but most things are inverter or capacitor nowa days.

              I just run my genny every couple of months and switch over to load her up, Ergon usually look after the black outs around that time frame.

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                Fran
                November 26, 2021 at 7:38 am

                We use ‘premium’ petrol in all small motors. No more starting problems. It is the ethanol in gas that buggers up motors that are left with fuel in them.

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                MP
                November 26, 2021 at 9:12 am

                I would check that, premium is not recommended for small engines. Premium is a higher octane rating, ethanol is used to increase the octane rating along with additives. Lead used to be added to increase the octane rating I think, the valve slap prevention was a bonus.
                The octane rating is basically the compression/ignition point, so the pressure is higher before ignition, hydrocarbons will combust in oxygen on pressure without ignition from any source (think diesel) so timing then matters. In a high oxygen atmosphere carbon steel will burn like paper but needs an ignition source or pressure and that pressure can be a foot step.
                Petrol does not contain ethanol unless blended, E10. Ethanol does hold water as its hydroscopic all fuel will draw in moisture from the atmosphere in the tank through expanding and then contracting through the vent, so sitting in a tank does not turn the fuel over which Leeds to a build up of water.

                I think from memory this combustion point is the reason small engines are not recommended to run premium, as they cannot advance the timing, so ignition occurs prior to reaching optimal pressure, you should check this for the engines sake as well as the purse. The operations manual will set you straight.

                There is little gain from premium except for the people who make it, as the cost benefit is very marginal. Oil companies and auto manufactures are in bed together.
                Race cars run up to 85% ethanol for HP gains, but their engines are striped and rebuilt after every race and they are designed for higher pressures, your brigs and Stratton is not.

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                Hanrahan
                November 26, 2021 at 1:07 pm

                Octane rating is a long story and, yes, the lead additive was for octane.

                “small engines are not recommended to run premium, as they cannot advance the timing, so ignition occurs prior to reaching optimal pressure, “

                Au contraire, “wasted” octane is no problem whatsoever. If an engine doesn’t knock on 85 RON it still won’t on 92 ROn. True, you can’t advance ignition to get that little extra power that would be available, such is life. If you are off-grid and have to refill your genny every couple of weeks, by all means use reg. unleaded.

                I destroyed a Still brush cutter, an oldie but goodie, by putting some acetone in the petrol because I noticed gum in the fuel tank. The acetone dissolved the gums which didn’t burn so it ran about 30 secs before seizing solid. Because it doesn’t freeze here both petrol and diesel are low quality so a few pennies for the better fuel, if it is to sit around between uses, can save an engine. I only half fill my car so petrol doesn’t sit in the tank for months.

                As an aside, any European teams bringing diesels to Bathurst enduro races bring their own fuel. They don’t trust ours.

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                MP
                November 26, 2021 at 3:41 pm

                The mechanic arrives 🙂
                I have a Gerni, B/S has a sticker on the tank, regular unleaded only, seen it on others. This may be for seal/gasket/fuel compatibility?

                No point in putting the octane in if you can’t get the octane out. Is Ethanol used to boost octane in Aus or just an additive, is that not the same base with a dash of vodka?
                Ethanol is hydroscopic, do the metho trick I guess.

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      Ronin
      November 25, 2021 at 3:11 pm

      A few AA’s and a rotary thinga -majig.

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON
    November 25, 2021 at 12:33 pm

    Neither the ‘vaccinated’ nor the ‘unvaccinated’ will ever be fully vaccinated against Covid.

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      PeterS
      November 26, 2021 at 3:38 am

      which goes back to the original question no one can come close to answering at this stage. Do the risks of having the jab outweigh the risks of not having it? Given it’s too early to know the long term side effects and weaknesses of the COVID-19 vaccines, such a question is not possible to answer today. This reason alone ought to mean that the coercion to be vaccinated could be wrong and only time will tell if it turns out to be a crime against humanity. So many questions yet so few answers. In general it takes many years for vaccines to be considered better or worse than the disease itself. In the past there have been cases where a vaccine turned out to be worse than the disease and so had to be removed from the market but it took years to know. We only only about two years into the current cycle. The next few years will tell us the true story. In the meantime as has been already reported there are new variants of the virus that makes the situation even more complex that it already is. Them there is the obvious risk of completely different virus and hence other pandemics to come. The solution that our so called health experts can only come up with is more vaccines, more jabs, which means more questions. I think I will eventually become an anti-vaxxer after all! That’s fine by me as I always consider being contrarian to popular thinking and government decree as the correct stance to take for a number of valid reasons.

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    OldOzzie
    November 25, 2021 at 1:12 pm

    Mater’s Musings #42: Stop the mendacity…it’s in black and white

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I’ve had a gutful of people telling me the current covid vaccines in Australia have gone through all the trials (albeit expedited) that other, more traditional vaccines have. It just isn’t true, and Health Department ads in major newspapers saying so, doesn’t automatically change that.

    NCIRS: Phases of Clinical Trials

    But the very next paragraph reveals the unavoidable truth:

    However, as there are limited safety data, full registration of the vaccine will only be given after extended safety monitoring, which will take several years (refer to Figure 2).

    What does the Australian Government’s National Health and Medical Research Council say about trial participation?

    Ref: National Health and Medical Research Council

    Despite the coerced consent given at the vaccination hubs (a fig leaf of legal coverage), you can hardly call being put out of work, and socially ostracised, a the basis for ‘completely voluntary’. As for “no adverse effects” on their “relationship with their doctor”, what a shame it doesn’t include ’employer’. Many of us might still have a job.

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    John Connor II
    November 25, 2021 at 1:17 pm

    For a change I’ll mention energy, specifically free energy.

    It’s really laughable that we’re (the human race that is) jumping onto low efficiency energy sources like solar, especially into a grand solar minimum with extreme weather events. Even MC panels are around 22% efficient.
    Now there’s this thing called the US patent national security law that covers energy producing inventions.
    Heaven forbid anyone actually coming up with something that would destroy the US’s cash cow called oil.
    You wonder why past inventions never seem to go anywhere?
    The Pogue carburettor, Yul Brown’s HHO electrolysis etc. Apparently solar panels hit 50% efficiency decades ago but fell foul of the US patent law mentioned.
    What about Nikola Tesla’s inventions?
    Tapping the “ether” or dark energyfor energy.
    That appears to be a resonant frequency EMF harnesser of some sort but of course the secrets died with him or ended up in the CIA vaults.
    In modern times and of particular interest is Professor Nakamatsu in Japan, the inventor of the floppy disk and the holder of around 8,000 patents making him one of the most prolific inventors ever.
    He developed a “cosmic particle harnesser” the size of a house door and powers his house and others in the complex 24/7/365.
    Imagine that hitting the market.
    No…lets dream about solar, short life wind power with non biodegradable blades currently being buried in landfill worlwide, lithium batteries mined by kids in open cut mines again with limited life and disposability issues although some reclamation is possible.
    Think where the human race could be if everything wasn’t driven by money and greed. No doubt a few missing trillion $ routed to black projects in the US has some very interesting scientific advances but the masses will probably never know.

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    Analitik
    November 25, 2021 at 1:21 pm

    Correlation between Pfizer vaccine and prion disease observed by French doctor Luc Montagnier

    Translated from his interview on SUD Radio:

    “There is a group of 7 independent people with different doctors who have this disease. The common factor is that they were vaccinated with two doses of Pfizer vaccine,” continues the virologist. “It is at the second dose that it appears small signs and then the general signs of the disease appear”. “We can’t prove it’s caused by vaccines”, he explains, “but we still have to look at this hypothesis. Because the only common factor between these people is to have been vaccinated with the same vaccine“.

    Prion disease causes degeneration of brain tissue and leads to conditions such as Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (Mad Cow Disease), Kuru, Alzhiemer’s and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease

    https://www-sudradio-fr.translate.goog/societe/pr-luc-montagnier-il-y-a-des-gens-qui-meurent-des-effets-du-vaccin?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB&_x_tr_pto=nui,sc

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    Dennis
    November 25, 2021 at 1:46 pm

    Indigenous community leaders are now upset about the internet based and other false and misleading claims that Indigenous Australians are being held down for vaccination and forced into quarantine camps in the NT …

    https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/northern-territorys-covid-response-beset-by-emphatically-false-vaccine-claims-c-4695544

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    Lance
    November 25, 2021 at 2:03 pm

    Well, this doesn’t look good for the vaxxer crowd.

    UK vaxxed dying at 200% greater rate than unvaxxed in same aged groups. I’m gonna stay at home and try some whiskey.

    https://gellerreport.com/2021/11/vaccinated-english-adults-under-60-are-dying-at-twice-the-rate-of-unvaccinated-people-the-same-age.html/

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      OldOzzie
      November 25, 2021 at 3:23 pm

      I’m gonna stay at home and try some whiskey.

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        Great+Aunt+Janet
        November 26, 2021 at 9:10 pm

        Best you drop the ‘E’ if you are into delicious Speyside malts – the Scots will have your guts for garters.

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      Brenda Spence
      November 25, 2021 at 3:28 pm

      And not good for kids ….up to a 44% increase in deaths in young people over the previous 5 yr average.

      https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/11/24/child-deaths-increasing-since-offered-covid-vaccine/

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      Analitik
      November 25, 2021 at 3:49 pm

      Statistician Mathew Crawford suggests that Alex Berenson hasn’t allowed for age and infirmity biases and is basing his conclusion on the illusion of Simpson’s Paradon – https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/paradox-simpson/

      What he has found, though, is that there is no indication of the vaccines saving ANY lives in the UK, at all. The weekly rate of excess deaths amongst the vaccinated vs unvaccinated does not differ at all. There is a tiny cumulative rate difference but it is statistically at the level of noise.

      The cumulative trends go back-and-forth, and it seems reasonable to dismiss any difference as statistical noise. But when we do compute the tiny overall observed benefit at the end of the 28 week stretch to the vaccinated group, it amounts to a mere 5 deaths per million doses

      https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/uk-data-shows-no-all-cause-mortality

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      RickWill
      November 25, 2021 at 7:50 pm

      Well, this doesn’t look good for the vaxxer crowd.

      The chart is highly selective. It has truncated the first few weeks of the year. The unvaccinated 10-59 were dropping at a rate of 4/100k per week during January. The vaccinated were under 1/100k per week for January. The gradual shift is related to the age preference for getting vaccinated. It is a fact of death that the older a person is, the greater their chance of dying. Around 75% of current Covid cases in the UK are under 18yo. Not many of those are vaccinated and not many of them die from Covid. If you look at table 5, it has ythe death rate in much smaller age bands. The deaths of people between 50 and 59 is more than twice the deaths in the age band 10 to 49. The way the chart tails off simple means that adults are more likely to die than kids, whether vaccinated or not.

      On a population basis, England lost 100/100k per week during February. The overall death rate dropped to 28/100k/wk by the end of June and has stayed there while mobility has been increased.

      You can verify what I have stated by going to the source file given in the link:
      https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=%2fpeoplepopulationandcommunity%2fbirthsdeathsandmarriages%2fdeaths%2fdatasets%2fdeathsbyvaccinationstatusengland%2fdeathsoccurringbetween2januaryand24september2021/datasetfinalcorrected3.xlsx

      During the period of Covid UK has lost 217/100k just to Covid. 160/100k were in a four month period from Nov 2020 to end of March 2021. The vaccinations has saved hundreds of thousands of lives.

      If sufficient adults get vaccinated then there is no need to vaccinate children to achieve herd immunity. It would be nice to spare the kids the risks associated with vaccination. I have done my duty.

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        Custer Van Cleef
        November 26, 2021 at 7:30 am

        RickWill,

        It’s not unreasonable to truncate the first weeks of the year. There was a big spike of deaths in that period (presumably the normal winter cull, plus COVID on top) and the vast majority hadn’t had the chance to get vaccinated.

        Have you studied Table 2?
        Instead of breaking down the age groups, Table 2 gives you the all-cause ASMR (age-standardized mortality rate) for each week. I like to think of it in terms of the odds: which group would you prefer to be in, at that point in time.

        I’m not interested in arbitrary points in time like “21 days”, I just want to know if people who had one of more doses of mRNA, are doing better than those who didn’t – the Nojabs.

        So I merged the three jabbed groups** into one group, and plotted them against the Nojabs:
        The interesting part is between weeks 16 and 24, Nojabs start having better survival odds than the others. After week 24 the lines converge again: they’re almost identical til week 29.
        And then for the last ten weeks, the odds are a little bit in favor of the vaccinated, but starting to converge at the end.
        So between weeks 16 and 24, (hypothetically) you’d feel safer as a member of the Nojabs.

        Happy to be corrected if my reasoning is wrong, I’m here to learn too.

        **I merged the three Vaccinated groups with this formula:
        ( (pop2*asmr2) + (pop3*asmr3) + (pop4*asmr4) ) divided by ( pop2 + pop3 + pop4 ) = overall ASMR.

        I had to zero out some fields that had colons in them, allowing a slight bias to the Vaccine, I don’t think it matters.

        Zoe Phin might be useful here: she’d know how to dump the data into a csv file, and write a Bash script.

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          Custer Van Cleef
          November 26, 2021 at 7:54 am

          Correction:
          “… a little bit in favor of the vaccinated” should be simply “in favor of the vaccinated”.
          The maximum divergence of the lines is less (11 points compared to 16, in weeks 16-24) but the time apart is longer.

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          Analitik
          November 26, 2021 at 7:55 am

          Mathew Crawford has a LOT of analysis on his substack that shows how they have poorly defined the statistics quoted by people like Rick Will which misleads them into thinking the vaccines are a miracle that is going to save the human population.

          Look at the articles in the Efficacy section (lots of other good, if rather heavy, statistical analysis on the site)
          https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/the-vaccine-wars

          Also, this is a great video interview with him by Steve Kirsch, laying out all sorts of statistical anomalies with the vaccines trials and recordings.

          Statistician Mathew Crawford talks to me about why he believes that the vaccines are completely ineffective based on the data. He also talks about gaming of the clinical trials to make the data look good

          https://rumble.com/vphwly-mathew-crawford-the-vaccines-are-useless.html

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    el+gordo
    November 25, 2021 at 2:18 pm

    Eurasia weather forecast.

    ‘The Europe 15-day forecast indicates above normal heating demand on a daily basis through the next 12-13 days.

    ‘Farther downstream in Russia, the pattern is mild as below normal heating demand is projected. The minimal HDD values for Russia indicate the lead source region for arctic air (Siberia) is mild to start metrological winter.

    ‘A period of above normal heating demand in Asia is ending and for Nov. 25-30 the national demand shifts to below normal. Very cold air is somewhat limited to Alaska and vicinity in the 15-day forecast.’ (Climate Impact Company)

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      el+gordo
      November 25, 2021 at 4:30 pm

      The general consensus is that the next few weeks will be cold in Europe, but will it snow in London on Xmas day?

      ‘In the short-term Europe is looking colder. The predicted ridging/high pressure will contribute to deepening troughing/low pressure in Europe accompanied by cold temperatures. Also predicted cold temperatures in the polar stratosphere are also favorable for colder weather in Europe in early December. Still even for Europe a predicted return of low pressure to Greenland seems to favor milder weather eventually even for Europe.’ (Judah Cohen AER)

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    Analitik
    November 25, 2021 at 3:12 pm

    First it was reported that heart attacks and other vascular issues have mysteriously spiked this year (especially amongst the young, females and athletes).

    Now there are reports of stillborn babies being far, far more frequent this year than previously.

    Investigation launched into abnormal spike in newborn baby deaths in Scotland.
    [ https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19726487.investigation-launched-abnormal-spike-newborn-baby-deaths-scotland/ ]
    ..
    Dr. Nagase: From one of the local doctors in North Vancouver, Dr Mel Bruchet, he has contacts all through Vancouver. And some doulas who work in Women and Children’s Hospital which isn’t in North Vancouver, it’s in Vancouver-Vancouver, it’s one of the birthing centers for Vancouver. They had 13 stillbirths in a 24 hour period. That was what I heard. But the thing is I’ve also heard a similar story out in Waterloo, Ontario. So in Waterloo, Ontario, I have a more reliable statistic that there were 86 stillbirths between January and July. And normally it’s 5 or 6 stillbirths every year. About 1 stillbirth every two months is the usual rate. So to suddenly get to 86 stillbirths in 6 months, that’s highly unusual. But the confirmation, the most important confirmation that we have, from the Waterloo, Ontario report was that all of the 86 stillbirths were fully vaccinated.

    Reporter: Fully vaccinated mothers?

    Dr. Nagase: That’s right.
    [ https://brightlightnews.com/full-interview-stillbirths-exploding-in-fully-vaccinated-mothers-dr-daniel-nagase/ ]
    [ https://www.facebook.com/EdmontonFreedomCentral/videos/4278212242308603/ ]

    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/latest-devastating-news-on-the-vaccine

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    Hanrahan
    November 25, 2021 at 5:19 pm

    The natives are restless!

    A contingent of AFP and ADF out of Lavarack are heading to the Solomons at the request of the Gov. to help quell riots.

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    David Maddison
    November 25, 2021 at 7:13 pm

    Africa is only 6% covid vaccinated but covid infection is extremely low.

    https://youtu.be/6FNkDIVyhZk

    Plus most covid vaccines are not suitable for Africa because of their refrigeration requirements. I guess the inaccessibility of vaccines suits those Elites with a depopulation agenda, although the lack of vaccination is not having the desired effect.

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    David Maddison
    November 25, 2021 at 7:40 pm

    Japan and ivermectin.

    https://youtu.be/TVc3cHWMlgI

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    Hanrahan
    November 25, 2021 at 8:26 pm

    Nov. 25 th.

    In spite of it being my parents’ wedding anniversary I missed it until I heard someone in the neighbourhood letting go a number of strings of crackers: It is Guy Fawkes night. It waa fun once before the Nanny State decided we might burn ourselves with the bon fires and crackers. I’m not sure my neighbour was legal. I hope he gets away with it though.

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      Ronin
      November 26, 2021 at 9:57 am

      It was one of the highlights of the year when I was a kid.
      Next morning, the paper always had some kid who was blinded or burnt from fireworks.
      The dopes of this world cruelled it for us all.

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    OldOzzie
    November 25, 2021 at 8:40 pm

    Nov. 25 th. – It is Guy Fawkes night???

    Remember, Remember, the 5th of November

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      Hanrahan
      November 25, 2021 at 9:16 pm

      Oh dear. Blame that silly B letting off crackers, he led me astray.

      If that’s the biggest mistake I make, I can live with that. 🙂

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      Annie
      November 25, 2021 at 9:18 pm

      The version I knew:

      “Please to remember the 5th of November,
      Gunpowder, treason and plot.
      I see no reason why gunpowder treason
      Should ever be forgot.”

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    David Maddison
    November 25, 2021 at 10:15 pm

    The International Olympic Committee now officially allows men to play women’s sport.

    It’s the end of meaningful women’s participation in sport.

    https://youtu.be/BIs_qrbWNqw

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    Krishna Gans
    November 26, 2021 at 12:52 am

    Down, but not out: hydroxychloroquine could still have a role against COVID-19

    Like any drug, CQ/HCQ can have adverse effects and interact with other drugs. But there is a wealth of experience and evidence attesting to their safety and tolerability in the doses used to prevent COVID-19.

    The drugs have been used for more than 60 years as long-term treatments for rheumatological conditions at adult doses between 155 and 610mg base/day. The COPCOV trial provides a maintenance dose of 155mg base/day.

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    OldOzzie
    November 26, 2021 at 5:25 am

    Booster jab: PM’s urgent jab warning to every Aussie as Europe braces for Covid winter wave

    Scott Morrison is urging Australians to get the booster jab in a letter to every home as Covid wreaks havoc across Europe.

    Meanwhile Article next to the above on same page

    Pfizer Covid vaccine linked to 26 new cases of heart inflammation in Australia

    There have been more reports in Australia of a side effect of the Pfizer vaccine common in teenage boys.

    The number of cases of heart inflammation linked to the Pfizer Covid vaccine in Australia has risen to 341 from about 23.9 million doses.

    There were 26 new cases of the rare side effect known as myocarditis reported in the week ending November 21.

    There was also one new blood clots case linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine following a first dose. It involved a 67-year-old woman from Victoria.

    The new case increased the total Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) or blood clots cases to 164 out of 13.4 million doses. Of these 148 (81 confirmed, 62 probable) related to a first dose and 21 to a second dose (six confirmed, 15 probable).

    Eight people have died as a result of blood clots – six of these were women.

    There have also been a total of 150 reports of suspected Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS) occurring after vaccination with AstraZeneca, a rare but sometimes serious immune disorder affecting the nerves.

    And a total of 90 reports of suspected immune thrombocytopenia (ITP) following vaccination with AstraZeneca, a rare immune reaction that can occur after a viral infection or vaccination when platelets, which help blood to clot, are mistakenly destroyed.

    The figures were released in the Therapeutic Goods Administration’s Covid-19 vaccine weekly safety report on Thursday afternoon.

    Myocarditis is reported in one to two in every 100,000 people who receive Pfizer, although it is more common in young men and teenage boys after the second dose (five to 11 cases per 100,000 doses).

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      OldOzzie
      November 26, 2021 at 8:43 am

      Coronavirus Death Toll Under Joe Biden Expected to Surpass Deaths Under Trump — in Less Time

      The U.S. death toll from the Chinese coronavirus under President Joe Biden’s administration will soon surpass the death toll recorded during former President Donald Trump’s administration, and in less time — despite vaccines being available under Biden and not under Trump.

      Approximately 378,955 people in the United States have died from the Wuhan virus in Joe Biden’s first ten months in office, according to statistics provided by Johns Hopkins University.

      The nationwide coronavirus death toll — which was at 396,442 when Biden first took office — is now at 775,397.

      On January 21, 2020, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed the first coronavirus case in the United States, in the state of Washington, after an individual had returned to the U.S. from Wuhan, China.

      President Biden — who campaigned heavily on combating the coronavirus — took office nearly one year to the date of the first recorded coronavirus case, but now the U.S. death toll from the Wuhan virus is expected to more than double within Biden’s first ten months in office.

      During the final presidential debate between Trump and Biden on October 22, 2020, Biden insisted that “anyone who’s responsible for that many deaths” — which at the time was at around 220,000 — “should not remain as President of the United States of America,” notes TIME.

      While Biden claims that an individual should not remain president if hundreds of thousands of coronavirus-related deaths have occurred during their administration, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki nonetheless confirmed on Monday that Biden plans to run for reelection in 2024.

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      Ronin
      November 26, 2021 at 9:53 am

      What’s happening in Europe is totally unrelated to OZ, their diminished vit D levels caused by the onset of winter is to blame.

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    el+gordo
    November 26, 2021 at 7:14 am

    NSW is coming out in time for Xmas.

    ‘Masks, QR codes and vaccination certificates will no longer be required in retail and restaurants from mid-December, while school closures will be a thing of the past next week.’ (SMH)

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      beowulf
      November 26, 2021 at 11:39 am

      We hope.

      That scenario will only play out as long as Perrottet doesn’t get rolled yet again by his Photios cabinet. Green Kean and Jack-Boot Hazzard would love to lock us down until we’re back in the stone age.

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    el+gordo
    November 26, 2021 at 7:23 am

    Our worst nightmare.

    ‘Australia’s $3 trillion superannuation industry says it is ready to ‘unleash a wall of capital’ to invest in green projects to support the move to a net zero carbon economy by 2050.’ (Oz)

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      sophocles
      November 26, 2021 at 11:55 am

      Interesting. At least those Tesla owners who suffered from “ Server Error 500 “ lockouts can get their cars towed.

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      Kalm Keith
      November 26, 2021 at 1:01 pm

      And there go the savings of millions of people who wanted an independent retirement.

      But look; it’s all about the placement commissions and fund management fees.

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    another ian
    November 26, 2021 at 7:51 am

    “Lab Leak Denier Daszak Gave A ‘We’ve Done Nothing Wrong’ Interview And An Insect Literally Escaped a Cage In the Middle of It.”

    https://thenationalpulse.com/news/insect-escapes-cage-during-daszak-interview/

    Via http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/11/25/one-flu-out-of-the-wuhan-nest-53/

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      OldOzzie
      November 26, 2021 at 9:19 am

      We had 2 1/100 year floods in 1980’s even though we live on the side of a hill – now included in Northern Beaches Flood Zone for in front of our front brick fence, which deflected and sent thigh high water down our drive to flood properties below cliff at rear boundary

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      farmerbraun
      November 26, 2021 at 10:08 am

      How far above average was the rainfall for the period August -October?
      In NZ the feature of the spring was the was cold , with less evaporation.
      Soil moistures are still on the dry side.

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        Gee Aye
        November 26, 2021 at 10:25 am

        all rainfall measurements in the ACT and surrounds have already broken the November record with rain forecast for many of the remaining days this month,

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          farmerbraun
          November 26, 2021 at 12:27 pm

          But the topic was Spring, which is why I said August-October. Anyone got the numbers?

          “Wettest spring in a century, its a global cooling signal.”

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            Gee Aye
            November 26, 2021 at 1:54 pm

            November is usually considered spring here (and August winter) and I reported November because it has been in local media (no, I have not verified it).

            I have not looked into Sept-Oct but both were wet so with November being a record it must be a high ranking wet spring (sept-nov version)

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              farmerbraun
              November 26, 2021 at 2:08 pm

              ” (and August winter)”
              Someone needs to tell the sheep to stop lambing at Oimelg /Imbolc (the first week of August) : obviously the silly sheep don’t know that it’s not Spring , at least in (urban?) Australia.
              🙂

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                Gee Aye
                November 26, 2021 at 2:15 pm

                If we defined start of spring as peak wattle blossom, then we’d be with you.

                Standard 4 seasons only apply in Australia for a relatively geographically small but highly populated part of Australia. Everywhere else -tropics, arid areas etc use the terms out of habit.

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                Hanrahan
                November 26, 2021 at 3:11 pm

                Spring here is when the koel [storm bird] starts calling. It’s a cuckoo which winters in PNG and when it returns needs to trigger the young with incessant calls to leave their foster parents and join their peers.

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                Hanrahan
                November 26, 2021 at 3:20 pm

                Early summer is supposed to be mango blossom time but I have yet to see even one in flower. I thought it was just local but apparently not, NQ will have a bad mango harvest. Same with lychees, they will be poor quality and expensive so don’t plan on either for your Christmas table. I doubt Darwin can meet demand.

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                el+gordo
                November 26, 2021 at 4:38 pm

                Canberra is having its coolest November in 30 years.

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    OldOzzie
    November 26, 2021 at 9:08 am

    The Beatles ‘Get Back’ in Peter Jackson’s New Three-Part Documentary

    the-beatles-get-back-part-one

    Long and Excellent Summary of Part 1 – will watch Part 1 today on Disney+ on LG OLED W7 Signature Wall TV on this grey miserable day in Sydney

    No 9 grandson (4 year old) watching Top Wing on Curved LG OLED TV behind me.

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      Gee Aye
      November 26, 2021 at 10:29 am

      South Korea is doing well from your household

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        OldOzzie
        November 26, 2021 at 10:37 am

        Great TVs – Curved LG OLED TV also has curved LG SoundBar

        Having successfully done business in Korea and Japan over many years impressed with both countries products – current cars 2 Japan and 2 Korean – next new car (probably 2023 when Chip Supply Fixed) will be again Korean or Japanese

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      farmerbraun
      November 26, 2021 at 12:36 pm

      “this grey miserable day in Sydney”

      Surely ozzie farmers are delighted to have a wet November?
      Hard to imagine a better start to Summer for farmers , unless it’s too cold.

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        OldOzzie
        November 26, 2021 at 12:46 pm

        I would assume it is where they are at in harvesting

        Bad weather set to wipe billions off value of Australian crops

        Quality of winter harvests being downgraded due to ‘untimely rain’ and rising flood waters

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        beowulf
        November 26, 2021 at 4:38 pm

        Um.
        NSW Farmers call on the government to declare recent floods a natural disaster.

        https://www.theland.com.au/story/7525458/floods-prompt-peak-bodys-calls-for-natural-disaster-declaration/?cs=4937

        And its’ still raining. Large parts of the Central West and North West Slopes/Plains of NSW in the heart of the cropping zone are under water, with wider flooding still on the way. When it does stop raining it will take weeks for the water to drain away.

        The grain harvest in eastern Oz starts in about November in southern QLD and works its way southwards down the grain belt week by week as the grain ripens in a sequential wave until it finishes down south in VIC around December. The grain cockies are in the midst of what should be harvest right now in the northern parts. They will not be cheering the timing of this rain.

        A bumper crop is going under water or being severely downgraded to feed grain status or worse, by weather damage. Wheat ready to harvest that gets too wet will sprout in the head before it can be harvested. It could be many weeks before a lot of farmers can get headers and trucks back onto boggy paddocks to commence harvesting.

        The rain is a blessing for some and a curse for others.

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    OldOzzie
    November 26, 2021 at 9:12 am

    UK School Asks Pupils to Wear ‘Yellow Badge’ to Show They Are Mask-Exempt

    Allison Pearson from The Telegraph had circulated last week excerpts of an email from the headmaster of Farringtons School in Chiselhurst, Kent, advising parents that children who are exempt from wearing a mask in school should wear a “yellow badge” to identify themselves. The email prompted the journalist to ask “does the school have teachers who know their history?” as well as dozens of responses to the tweet with members of the public seeing the comparison to the forcing of J@wish people wearing stars in N@zi-occupied Europe so they could be identified and singled out for discrimination.

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    another ian
    November 26, 2021 at 11:50 am

    A list of awkward questions via Small Dead Animals –

    “For Ms. Jong-Fast and other members of the Leftist Covid Cult, here are ten questions to ask them around the dinner table:

    Can fully vaccinated people contract Covid?

    Can fully vaccinated people give others Covid?

    Statistically, are children more at harm if they contract Covid or if they get the Covid mRNA jab?

    Why has Japan turned away from vaccinations in favor of giving its citizens Ivermectin?

    Since Japan made this decision, what has been the result?

    Tell me what you know about the yellow star program in the 1930’s.

    Would you have been in favor of treating homosexuals differently during the AIDS crisis in the 1980’s?

    Are you in favor of “othering” those who have chosen not to get the Covid mRNA jab?

    If you are fully vaccinated, then could you explain to me why you are worried about being around unvaccinated people?

    If the Covid booster program continues for some time to come, are you prepared to continue to get a jab every 3 to 6 months?” And from comments

    Can you give me 5 years of post vaccination safety data to allow for informed consent based on short, medium and long term adverse effects of these novel mRNA and viral vector vaccines?

    Tell me why the protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that didn’t protect the protected!

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/11/25/questions-back-at-you-leftist-cult-members/#comments

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    another ian
    November 26, 2021 at 12:44 pm

    “Mater’s Musings #42: Stop the mendacity…it’s in black and white

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I’ve had a gutful of people telling me the current covid vaccines in Australia have gone through all the trials (albeit expediated) that other, more traditional vaccines have. It just isn’t true, and Health Department ads in major newspapers saying so, doesn’t automatically change that.”

    https://newcatallaxy.blog/2021/11/25/maters-musings-42-stop-the-mendacity-its-in-black-and-white/

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      another ian
      November 26, 2021 at 12:59 pm

      The list of questions from SDA that was moderated out of being #50 will slot nicely in here

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      Hanrahan
      November 26, 2021 at 7:27 pm

      AFAIK Ian pregnant or “likely to become” women were excluded from the trials. If so how can they be injected?

      And I repeat: Do not inject children in my name. I’ll take my chances.

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    Analitik
    November 26, 2021 at 1:12 pm

    Another researcher, in the UK this time, sees rising numbers of heart issues after mRNA vaccinations

    Dr Aseem Malhotra reveals a cardiology researcher found similar results to a new report showing an increase in risk of heart attack following the mRNA COVID vaccine.

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1463926037889396736?s=20

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    Furiously+Curious
    November 26, 2021 at 4:16 pm

    Maybe the covid pandemic has been a big step toward getting rid of doctors? They are not allowed to treat, so that takes us quite a ways toward computerised medicine. There has been talk for years about computerised consultations, and how excellent they are, and here we have an occasion where doctors are told to go away. It’s one of those things, where 5 yrs down the track, things could be very different? Good luck guys. Maybe you should have treated people?

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      another ian
      November 26, 2021 at 4:33 pm

      Obviously the doctors will be needed to do the coding?

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      Hanrahan
      November 26, 2021 at 8:29 pm

      Hopefully a more enlightened public will use Dr. Google before and after their visit.

      I do.

      Mrs H had dowager’s hump, a sure sign of osteoporosis. I raised the issue, not her GP. A bone density test showed just that and her otherwise excellent GP recommended a treatment that reduced reabsorption of old bone calcium. This is stooopid! Bone is a living organ, how is OLD bone better than chalk? A search showed a “side effect” as osteonecrosis. Excuse me? Nothing Vit D couldn’t fix. A test years later showed her to be in a pre* condition ie no problem.

      It’s your body, take control. Firstly stop addressing them as “Doctor”, use their first name or at least “Mr.”. Otherwise they know they have power over you.

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        another ian
        November 27, 2021 at 6:12 am

        H

        Remember that “Mr” was the mark of one who had higher qualifications than a mere “Dr” so that might be an unwarranted promotion

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    Hanrahan
    November 26, 2021 at 5:43 pm

    A Jetstar pilot is charged with murder of a Victorian couple. I know little of the case so will limit myself to the accused.

    Reporters say “Jet Star pilot” so going to pprune the first post in the thread is:

    I see and hear in the Media a JetStar Pilot has been arrested for an alleged crime.
    Why do journalists use ” sensationalism ” headings such as this?
    These so called journalists just have to embellish the story to grab attention so it seems.
    One would be sure that if he was a taxi driver that would not have been noteworthy enough!!
    Anything to make a story better even if it is irrelevant.
    Very poor reporting IMOP

    A few pilots point out that theirs is a highly regarded profession so the distinction is fair. But then comes the bombshells:

    This guy should have been behind bars about 22 years ago. And I understand that the Victorian Police are likely going to reopen the investigation of the murder of his wife. And yes, regarding the initial post, anything that violates the public trust that we enjoy is instant news.

    I knew the pilot many years ago, he is an agro person and a loner. Mind you it all depends in which context you know the person.
    I always believed the coroner erred in his decision on the death of the said pilot’s first wife. But the coroner can only base his decision on the information placed before him.

    I’ve also heard QANTAS dismissed him. Jet Star must be asked what psych tests their pilots undergo.

    And for pilots who are upset think German Wings.

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    Hanrahan
    November 26, 2021 at 10:29 pm

    SA still skating on thin ice re power generation. For a couple of days now they have been using the minimum of gas. ATM they’re only generating 80MW from gas. This is not enough to maintain freq. stability should the feeder drop out. Loss of control: sheetsville.

    But they have experience so maybe it won’t take as long next time to get the lights back on.

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      Analitik
      November 26, 2021 at 11:28 pm

      They may not be generating much but there are Torrens Point gas boiler generators online as (costly) spinning reserve. This was enacted by the previous SA government to provide network stability while they publicly stated how capable, reliable and predictable renewable generation was.

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    Analitik
    November 26, 2021 at 11:19 pm

    Another professional soccer player collapses mid-match. I guess they don’t make them like they used to…

    FC SHERIFF star Adama Traore collapsed to the turf in worrying scenes against Real Madrid last night
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    After evading a challenge from Nacho Fernandez, the 26-year-old appeared uncomfortable.

    As the ball went out for a throw in he turned around, before clutching his chest and falling to the ground.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/16845394/fc-sheriff-adama-traore-real-madrid/

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    Analitik
    November 26, 2021 at 11:24 pm

    Nu is the new name designated for variant
    B.1.1.529
    As per #23. See that for more discussion

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