Myocarditis, clots, may be caused by sloppy injections straight into a vein

All the vaccines are supposed to be Intra-muscular (IM), not Intravenous (IV). But a needle going into a muscle can sometimes end up in a vein. So fergoodnesssake, why aren’t we taking the 10 extra seconds to do an injection properly and reduce some of the worst side effects?

Anatomy varies. In an accidental IV injection the dose will be dropped straight into the blood supply, and within minutes will be spread throughout the body, potentially ending up in tissues like the heart, ovaries, or pancreas, where it is not designed to go. If heart cells, for example, make the virus spike and display it on their surface, it’s quite understandable if our immune systems think that look foreign, and generate a reaction. That’s myopericarditis.

Not all veins are identical

Veins of the arm. Injection. Covid Vaccines

Don’t vaccinate veins. Image by Dr. Johannes Sobotta

 

Spread the message about  “aspiration”. This used to be standard practice for most IM injections but has been dropped over the last couple of decades.

To aspirate, a nurse would put the needle in, then briefly pull back on the syringe. If the end of the needle is in a blood vessel that brief suction will pull blood into the chamber. If that happens the whole syringe, needle, everything should be retracted and tossed in the bin.

Two studies now suggest that accidental IV injections may be responsible for increasing the risk both of myocarditis and blood clots.

A study in mice by Can Li showed that the mice injected “IM” did not develop myocarditis, only the mice injected intravenously did. The markers of cardiac inflammation were also raised.

The histological changes of myopericarditis after the first IV-priming dose persisted for 2 weeks and were markedly aggravated by a second IM- or IV-booster dose. Cardiac tissue mRNA expression of interleukin (IL)-1β, interferon (IFN)-β, IL-6, and tumor necrosis factor (TNF)-α increased significantly from 1 dpi to 2 dpi in the IV group but not the IM group…

Bizarrely, some were arguing that myocarditis is only a 1 in 50,000 thing and aspirating slows vaccinations, and thus it might be worse to aspirate when it makes no difference to 49,999 people.  I’m guessing most people would think it was 10 seconds well spent.

It’s encouraging that the second paper seems to have figured out the reason for the rare but deadly TTS clots. These are a problem especially with the Astrazenica and Johnson and Johnson vaccines which are adenovirus vaccines. The riskiest time is 5 to 24 days after the first dose when antibodies may form against Platelet Factor 4. The paper, Baker et al, suggests the vaccine leaks out through minor capillary injuries.  But neither that, nor the theory about a lack of aspiration explain why the second dose is not just as much a problem. The paper doesn’t mention injection technique, but it seems odd, if the problem is the vaccine leaking out through damaged blood vessels, why it wouldn’t be so much worse with a poorly done injection.

For those who like to see it explained in a video, check out John Campbell. And here regarding the latest news on the clots.

Judging by comments around the traps, people who want an aspirated injection may need to work in advance to find a nurse who knows how it’s done and is willing to do it.

h/t David Maddison

TTS  = thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome

REFERENCE

Can Li et al (2021) Intravenous Injection of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) mRNA Vaccine Can Induce Acute Myopericarditis in Mouse Model, Clinical Infectious Diseases, ciab707, https://doi.org/10.1093/cid/ciab707

AstraZeneca uncovers what’s triggering blood clots after its jab: Vaccine acts like a magnet and attracts platelets which body mistakes for a threat and attacks, The Daily Mail

Baker et al (2021) ChAdOx1 interacts with CAR and PF4 with implications for thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome, Science Advances • 1 Dec 2021 • Vol 7, Issue 49DOI: 10.1126/sciadv.abl8213

Link https://opentextbc.ca/clinicalskills/chapter/6-8-iv-push-medications-and-saline-lock-flush/

Link https://trthub.com/do-you-really-need-to-aspirate-2018-update/

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95 comments to Myocarditis, clots, may be caused by sloppy injections straight into a vein

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    Gerry

    The act of aspiration when giving an IM injection barely takes a second and as you say Jo, was standard practice. The focus of nursing training moved from skill to “knowledge” when it went into universities. And as with journalism, the Long March of the intellectual has gone, and is still going, through nursing and now the vast majority of nurses will not know to do it. It’s your right to find a nurse who will aspirate the needle prior to plunging the goo into the muscle.

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      OldOzzie

      comment re The focus of nursing training moved from skill to “knowledge” when it went into universities. strikes a chord.

      As someone who has blood taken every 3 weeks and cannula every 3 weeks – success of canula insertion is definitely dependant on skill of nurse.

      Best effort was Intern Resident Doctor for cannula for 3 monthly MRI – 5 Tries.

      Cancer Ward has an approach if nurse has troubles after 2 tries, more experienced nurse called.

      Some apply warm blanket/towel over arm before, but yesterday skilled Cancer nurse, no blanket and cannula in first time and as I said to her, must be getting to used to needles as did not feel a thing – best cannula insertion over last 2 years.

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        Gerry

        Accessible veins, in people requiring with regular cannulation, are precious and people needing regular cannulatio shouldn’t be used as a training ground. Interns at the beginning months of the year can struggle, but they need to struggle on the fit sportsmen/women coming in to emergency, not on people requiring cancer treatment. Be assertive.

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          OldOzzie

          Gerry

          MRI as Outpatient in Private Hospital Nuclear Medicine, so usually get 9.30pm appointment, which suits me as easy to park at 9.15pm at Hospital – so usually get either new Intern Docs doing cannula before start, or MRI Nurse capable of doing cannula after first 20 min session – usually pretty good

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            drnano

            [Wow. This below is some major medical intervention. I didn’t want to hold it back, but it’s not on topic at #1, so could people reply at #32 rather than here? Appreciated. – Jo]
            ————————–
            As someone who regularly gets a series of infusions, I am glad that the oncologist ordered the installation of a Power Port in my upper chest. It is a large target (< 1 inch) just under the skin and has a tube that was inserted in my jugular vein. It is mostly painless when they make the connection through the skin and cannot be felt after a few seconds… which is good because I stay connected for 48 hours. They also use the port for injecting contrast media for MRIs and CT scans.

            Prior to the infusion connection, I have blood drawn for tests and the phlebotomists working there are usually very good (they get lots of practice). (They cannot use the port for the blood draws because they want "fresh" blood that has not languished in the tube for days or weeks or months.)

            YMMV

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      dinn, bob

      Moderna derives their stuff from Lonza whose CEO trained at Dow Chemical Europe for 11 years https://balance10.blogspot.com/2021/12/moderna-derives-their-stuff-from-lonza.html

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      Wet Mountains

      Gerry, I re-read you comment late last night and thought about the shift “from skill to “knowledge””. It occurred to me, that same principle applies to so many professions in our “modern” era. World of knowledge without the skills to implement that knowledge is of little value and in some cases can be deadly. Excellent point.

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    Kalm Keith

    “Myocarditis, clots, may be caused by sloppy injections straight into a vein”.

    May be, maybe?

    Are there any other pathways by which these “VaXXines” May cause clotts?

    Is this CV19 Vax programme the only VaXXines program producing clotts or is this a common occurrence with All vaccines?

    Why has the term “Clott Shott” only become synonymous with the CV19 VaXXines?

    I can appreciate the point about the change in training but that would suggest that other vaccines would produce the same amount of clotting.

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      New Chum

      Search for Dr John Campbell latest update and there is a video “Need for Vaccine aspiration confirmed, why is this not being done” this video will explain the reason for aspiration.

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      beowulf

      Prior to COVID, every injection was given absolutely perfectly. It was only with the advent of the COVID shots that technique suddenly deteriorated . . . or maybe it’s just another excuse for dangerous “vaccines”?

      Besides, I thought we were now being told by the experts that the myocarditis was due to post-pandemic stress disorder. Nothing to do with the safe and effective vaccines.

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    Wet Mountains

    Having been raised by an RN that provided care for people until well into her 70’s, I have seen her give shots and have received many shots from the time I was a small child and I can say with some level of assurance, the shots I see being given on TV are very unprofessional in their delivery (inserting the needle), injection of the vaccine and removal of the needle. Most shots I see given look like it is the first time they have ever given a shot and they need the practice.

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      Kalm Keith

      An interesting comment that leads to the obvious question; have other vaccines produced the same level of clot damage or are the CV19 VaXXines alone in this?

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      Custer Van Cleef

      Well I’ve seen my share of these mRNA/DNA jabs being given on TV, and there is often a small dot of blood there on the skin when the needle is withdrawn (not surprising) … which the nurse covers with a plaster.

      It’s impossible to inject the needle without damaging skin and muscle tissue — it must leave a narrow tunnel, cut through the flesh, probably an inch or more longer. Wherever the mRNA/DNA concoction pools, it can be drawn into the “tunnel” by the “capillary attraction of fluids”. Then it exits from the “tunnel of damage” via small veins that have been cut open, these veins flow into larger veins and eventually the concoction is flowing back to the heart to be pumped around the body.

      Acting against this is the natural blood-clotting mechanism — is there anything in the concoction that might interfere with that?

      I don’t know how they can guarantee NONE of this stuff gets into your bloodstream, with or without aspiration.

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        Just+Thinkin'

        Custer Van Cleef,

        “I don’t know how they can guarantee NONE of this stuff gets into your bloodstream, with or without aspiration.”

        Good point.

        I reckon this is only a smokescreen.

        Everything I have read and heard points to something IN the jab material being
        the cause of these problems.

        Remember, they had this jab WELL BEFORE they “needed it.”

        All they needed was a disease to “use it against”.

        And then, wonder of wonders, along came this “flu”.

        Which caused goal posts to be constantly shifted.

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          It’s very long known from gentherapeutic research, that the adeno virus may cause clots or in the liver or in brain venes.
          Reasons are the spikes the adeno virus owns too.
          These researches where done in 2006/2007 and cited in actual works about the clots in Astra. and their treatment earlier this year.

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    Zigmaster

    The problem now becomes if the heart issues that have come from these vaccines cause death or serious injury which clearly they have in some can nurses be up for manslaughter. Or if it can be shown that aspirating reduces the risks associated with the vaccines shouldn’t this be part of the warnings on the label? If the vaccine companies don’t put this info as part of the warning they should lose any protection from prosecution.
    I’ve seen articles that suggests data from overseas of much higher rates of heart related problems recently in age groups that can only be explained by this vaccination rollout. If eliminating risk can be this simple why wouldn’t they do it. Why wouldn’t governments insist on this practice? It certainly won’t make matters worse and we will see from data whether it makes things better.
    But the system is so corrupted these days that anything critical of vaccines is not mentioned and there seems to be a desire to protect the narrative and reputations than save lives. The results from this trial should be in MSM but can only be found buried on the internet. I fear this will go the same way as ivermectin and be dismissed by health authorities as conspiratorial.
    At this stage they go out of their way to claim there are very minimal risks for those that get vaccinated why would they recognise a solution if they don’t acknowledge that a problem exists. We really need the truth about these vaccines so people can make informed decisions. If it could be shown that the risks can be reduced by such a simple action it would greatly assist governments get the compliance they are seeking.

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    LloydWW

    I wonder whether a part of the problem might lie with the bore of the needle. These days, vaccines seem to be delivered by a finer gauge needle than say 30 years ago. A narrower gauge means a significantly lower amount of discomfort on injection and therefore greater acceptance but may also result in a smaller amount of blood on aspiration which may in turn be difficult to detect.

    Furthermore negative blood on aspiration does not guarantee that a blood vessel has been successfully avoided. All that can be said with certainty is positive blood on aspiration means you’ve definitely placed the needle tip in a blood vessel.

    The primary issue is the vaccines. Their safety profile is based on a best case scenario where administration is confined to the targeted muscle. So, in addition to being expensive and requiring special storage conditions these vaccines are technique sensitive.

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    William Astley

    Vaccine side effects, damage to the heart muscle and so on, are unacceptable, if the damage/risk is preventable. If there were no vaccine side effects people would be less hesitant to get the vaccine.

    It appears that for almost everyone, the vaccine side effects, could be prevented by ensuring the vaccine injection is not in a vein and correcting the patient’s deficiencies.

    file:///Users/paulastley/Downloads/S1576988701702567.pdf

    Intramuscular vaccines: good administration practice

    “The second, recommended by the World Health Organisation (WHO), involves stretching the skin between the thumb and forefinger. …..

    …For both techniques, immediately after introduction of the needle, the syringe plunger has to be pulled back slightly to make sure that the needle has not entered a vein.

    …If blood appears in the needle hub, the needle should be removed and injection should be repeated at a new site. With respect to needle length, the use of a 22 mm (7/8 inch) needle, or longer, is recommended both by the WHO and the Committee on Infectious Diseases of the American Academy of Pediatrics (1).”

    Comment:
    Ironically people who are Vit D optimum and not deficient in magnesium and calcium, can rebuild heart muscle. People who are Vit D optimum will not have heart muscle damage as the Vit D enables the heart cells and the cells of the other organs to produce biochemicals which stop/limit the vaccine damage or covid virus damage and to ensure the immune system does not ‘malfunction’.

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    BernardP

    This makes sense and is a possibility I have considered myself, when looking at the excessive adverse event profile of RNA/DNA vaccines.

    However, the fundamental problem is that the Spike Protein causes harm by itself, even when it’s not part of the Coronavirus. This is a factor that was apparently overlooked by those who designed the vaccines to induce cellular production of the Spike Protein. The Spike was too tempting, a low-hanging fruit.

    Another consideration is that if the Spike is harmful by itself, it should always be harmful. Thus it should cause damage (micro-clotting, inflammation…) even with people who don’t exhibit symptoms.

    That’s why I won’t take any RNA/DNA vaccine, or any vaccine that injects Spikes into my body. I would only consider a classic vaccine, based on a whole killed or attenuated virus.

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      Glenn

      Novavax or Covax-19 are both protein based vaccines as I understand it. Novavax is trying to get approval here, as is the Australian developed Covax-19, but the TGA appear to be on a go slow.

      I’d be prepared to have either of the above, but no way would I consider any of the present chemical muck.

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        Kyle

        But I believe both still inject spike proteins into the body

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          BernardP

          It’s also my understanding. Same for the Canadian Medicago vaccine to be approved shortly. They grow Spikes in plants, extract them and then inject them into vaccine takers.

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          Analitik

          Yes, being direct antigen vaccines, Covax-19, Novavax and Medicago are very bad choices as opposed to the terrible choices of the gene therapy spike protein vaccines. Any reasonable level of investigation would have shown the inherent toxicity of the spike proteins and also their highly mutable location on the virions. Being an appendage rather than structural or involved in the replication, changes in the spike protein have no effect on the stability of the virion nor its ability to invoke replication (directly) so mutations of the spike proteins have a much range of freedom, increasing the possibilities of enhanced transmission and immune escape.

          At least with the direct antigen vaccines, the amount of toxin per dose is known and the timing is a point while with the latter, different individuals will express different amounts of the spike proteins for the same dose and over different periods of time. And this doesn’t include side effects of the gene therapies themselves.

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          Anton

          It’s catch-22. The spike protein is the best thing for vaccines to target, as zapping that with antibodies prevents the virus getting into cells. If vaccines target another part of SARS-CoV-2 then it will still get into cells.

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    Aaron

    It may be just that the process to manufacture and ok for release these vaccines is criminally negligent.

    The fact our Government so called health officials sanctioned them suggests desperation or incompetency.

    NZ press breaks ranks

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    Vicki

    From the first, I thought it was outrageous that vax centres were being set up in car parks & Showgrounds with miscellaneous people trained to give injections. Shop assistants in pharmacies similarly enlisted. What did they expect would happen?

    Likewise I noted totally improperly delivered injections when seen on TV.

    Whether it explains all the clotting & myocarditis – I don’t know. But of my four family members who were vaccinated, the only one who had a problem ( upper abdominal bleeding) was inoculate at one of these centres, the rest being inoculated at their GPs surgery.

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    PeterS

    Is this for real? I’ve tried to verify it but couldn’t short of calling the hotel and asking them. If it is real then it’s major news.

    THE CALEDONIAN HOTEL IN SINGLETON NSW JUST WON COURT CASE OVER COVID FINE OF $15,000 – SETTING A HUGE PRECEDENT!

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      Kalm Keith

      I was there last week outside the court and later at the hotel.
      The proprietor only mentioned a total of fines; $3,000.
      No mention of $15,000.

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    Peter C

    Vaccination of Children?
    8-year-old girl suffers stroke and brain hemorrhage less than a day after getting Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-12-07-girl-suffers-stroke-hemorrhage-after-covid-vaccination.html

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      Kalm Keith

      One of the six adverse reaction cases I came across was of a 12 year old girl who came down with “heart trouble” following VaXXination.

      How many are being recorded?

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      Peter C

      Young Athletes dying before our eyes

      292 Athlete Cardiac Arrests, Serious Issues, 167 Dead, After COVID Shot
      https://goodsciencing.com/covid/71-athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-26-die-after-covid-shot/

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        Kalm Keith

        That’s a tragic list.

        These VaXXines were obviously not tested.

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          Tel

          Not tested on extremely fit athletes at any rate … that’s the problem with testing: people are different.

          You can go to a lot of effort in order to inject the mRNA into a muscle, and not hit a vein … but then if the guy goes and lifts weights the next day, that effort is a total waste of time because plenty of blood is going through that muscle.

          https://www.c19vaxreactions.com/real-testimonials.html

          Check out “F.M. – California”, here’s part of it …

          The second injection was in early April. Let me first say I am 67 years old, but not your normal 67 year old. I have been a competitive lifelong athlete, triathlon, marathon, cycling, swimmer junkie for over 35 years at a very high level. Since age 55 I have been more of a moderate workout nut, but still am a very good swimmer and consistently walk about 15-20 miles a week. I swim 4000 yards three times a week and have been doing so for many years consistently.

          The day after the second injection I went to the pool for my normal swim and hit a wall at 1000 yards. I literally had to get out of the pool because I was so fatigued I thought I could pass out and drown. I went home and slept for three hours, just attributing it to the fact that I had just got the second vaccine.

          I added the highlight, but point is you have a person with excellent fitness and therefore great bloodflow through the muscles. Which muscles does swimming use? Mostly the shoulders and chest muscles … right about where all the mRNA is sitting meaning it’s going to be right through poor old F.M.’s major organs, particularly the heart and lungs.

          The doctors of course are too busy saying “Safe and Effective” then a week later, “Nothing to do with the vaccine!” How can they fix problems when, without even looking, they can be absolutely sure there are no problems?

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            Ross

            I like your thinking there Tel. Probably doesn’t matter if the mRNA vax hits the vein or the muscle. If you have a fit athlete pumping blood to the upper arm muscles at 150 bpm there will be vax leakage from the muscle into the blood supply. Then peri/ myocarditis could result. I have great sympathy for any top professional athlete not wanting to take Pfizer or Moderna.

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        Analitik

        Australian Individual Time Trial road cycling champion, Sarah Gigante who is only 21, started having chest pains etc after the Tokyo Olympics and, after being hospitalised, was finally found to have myocarditis.

        I saw some FaceBook posts a couple of months ago where she was looking for a loaner e-bike which stunned me because I hadn’t heard of any injuries that she had. Now the shocking reason is clear yet she is still thinks she is “very fortunate to have been able to be protected against the horrible disease that is COVID-19”

        The only cause for Gigante’s myocarditis has to be the vaccination given her age, sex and physical condition and having to be vaccinated at her age is ridiculous.

        She is optimistic about returning to professional cycling as a she has been told that she there are “zero long-term effects as long as you’re not really unlucky and as long as you follow the doctor’s orders” but at the moment, can only ride along with the assistance of an e-bike. Given the seriousness of her condition (they don’t hospitalise people for no reason) she may well have suffered enough damage to her heart that the reduction in performance may end her career.

        https://cyclingtips.com/2021/11/sarah-gigante-qa-on-her-recovery-from-a-heart-scare/

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          ando

          Zero long-term effects with myocarditis? When you consider the vast majority of people, especially at her age experience little or no symptoms from batflu, coercing them to take these serums is absolutely criminal.

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          Analitik

          Correction – Sarah Gigante has myopericarditis (myocarditis AND pericarditis) so both her heart and surrounds (the pericardium) have been damaged. Now I’m certain her professional career is over and her lifespan almost certainly considerably shortened.

          This should not occur with someone so young and fit and particularly for females – heart conditions are basically non-existent for females under 40 with congenital defects or a severe viral infection

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      ando

      Virginia Nicholls, former ABC journalist has been documenting many cases of vaxx injuries that the msm refuse to report:

      https://twitter.com/Virg21Nicholls

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    Shane

    So far no one seems to be willing to go neat the factoid that its 3% of the batch numbers that are causing 100% of the actual deaths according to the VAERS data in the USA. Its been claimed that these batches are more likely to be distributed to a red state than blue.

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      Kalm Keith

      Doo Dee doo Dee doo Dee doo.

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      Tel

      It might be that injection technique is better in some regions than others and the batch number is merely a proxy for the hospital where that batch landed at. Whether well-trained seasoned nurses were used, or hastily trained casual workers varied greatly from state to state.

      A more worrying possibility is that only a small number of dedicated individuals actually bothered consistently submitting the VAERS reports, and the other batches simply did not get followed up. It could be that the “3% of the batch numbers” is a good indicator that approx 3% of injuries got reported to VAERS … that’s in line with alternate estimates.

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      Annie

      I saw that somewhere before. Hmmm.

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    Steve of Cornubia

    Dr Campbell has spoken about this frequently, for some weeks now, and as he used to teach nurses and doctors how to give injections, he’s a credible expert.

    When I first watched his talk, I then did some more research and found several examples of people who suffered immediate, severe reactions to the vaccines. In each case, they experienced strange sensations, including a metallic tastes and smells, just seconds later. It was thought that these were symptoms of accidental intravenous injection.

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    Steve of Cornubia

    Our esteemed medical profession is already coming to Fauci’s rescue. After insisting that the increase in heart issues among young people is fake news, they have finally had to agree that it’s real. Their next job is to come up with some excuse, denying that it has anything to do with the experimental injections.

    And voila!

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/12/07/doctors-uk-faces-up-to-300000-new-heart-condition-cases-due-to-post-pandemic-stress-disorder/

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      Kalm Keith

      See:

      It wasn’t the VaXXines, it was the worry and stress brought on by the lockdowns.

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      from the comments

      “It must by a coincidence.
      We suddenly have 300,000 new patients with a heart condition. Just following a mass vaccination programme, involving a vaccine known to cause heart issues.

      The more ‘boosters’ you submit to, the more likely you are to suffer from serious heart issues and myocarditis”

      LOL

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    ando

    My GP said he is seeing quite a few neurological and heart issues post vaxx, especially with fizzer and said he wouldnt go near it. He was also of the opinion that aspiration was very important and had to demand his nurses did it because they argued against it….not in the nurses handbook was their reasoning.
    A friend, forced to get the vaxx or be thrown into poverty had to argue with the nurse to get her to aspirate at a mass vaxx centre also.
    You’d think you were asking them to yank a tooth out for crying out load…

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      MP

      Hanrahan was forced to get his drop shot or lose his job, he ensured they aspirated. Now has/had a BP of 200, its the poison not the method.
      I can’t remember ever getting aspirated with all the vaxxines I’ve had, never had an issue. At school got the drug and off to the sports ground.

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      BernardP

      Fizzer… Very appropriate!

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      OldOzzie

      2 Adult Children – Pfizer Boosters yesterday – Countries apart

      Son is not doing too well. Quite the fever today and Daughter also feeling unwell from her jab but trying to mask it from 10 yr old son, who, due to School Mandatory Vaccination, is anxious about his forthcoming jab, late January 2022.

      Said to Daughter, like myself – wait for Novavax, though Australian Thugs Goons Administration is definitely slow walking approval for Novavax

      What did the Liberal Australian Government sign for with Pfizer?

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        OldOzzie

        Novavax COVID-19 vaccine could be approved very soon, says EMA chief

        BRUSSELS, Dec 7 (Reuters) – The head of the European Medicines Agency (EMA) on Tuesday said that it could soon approve the COVID-19 vaccine developed by U.S. biotech company Novavax.

        “The vaccine from Novavax could be authorised in the very near future,” Emma Cooke told EU health ministers during a public session of a meeting in Brussels. (Reporting by Francesco Guarascio Editing by David Goodman )

        Meanwhile in Australia

        Top 3 COVID-19 vaccine questions – Myocarditis, likelihood of new COVID vaccines, and Omicron variant information

        Dr Lucas De Toca, COVID-19 Primary Care Response First Assistant Secretary, answers the Top Three questions across our channels.

        Date published: 7 December 2021 – Read the Transcript

        Which takes us to the second question which is, when are we going to get Novavax, what is the deal with Novavax, and are we going to get other vaccines in Australia? In Australia the approval for vaccines as for any other drug is undertaken by the Therapeutic Goods Administration, the TGA. The TGA assesses any new candidate that has applied for approval based on its effectiveness, its safety and its quality. Products need to be consistent and have highest quality and make sure they have quality controls in place, so that each different batch is equivalent. So, when there is approval for a product there is assurance that is consistent for the production. Products need to be effective, they need to provide a benefit and one that also stacks up with their claims. The products also need to be safe. The safety of that product needs to be so that if there is any issue or side effects, which as I said most drugs do have. Its exceeded by the benefits that it confers through its effectiveness.

        At the moment the Novavax candidate is being considered by the TGA. They have applied for approval and the TGA is going through all the data of their submission and anything from other international regulators that TGA frequently discusses things with, to assess whether it is appropriate, safe, effective and of high quality to be used in Australia. If the TGA provides approval, Australia has an advanced purchase agreement with Novavax.

        So we will have the vaccine available in the country if approved by the TGA to be used, and ATAGI, the Advisory Group on Immunisation will provide a recommendation to the government on how the vaccine could be integrated into our available vaccines portfolio. We understand there is a number of people, not big, because the majority of the country is vaccinated now which is fantastic. But there is a number of people may be waiting for Novavax because of a perception that a protein subunit technology is more traditional in a way than the novel mRNA or adenovirus technologies of the other vaccines we have here. It is important to know that there is decades of research behind MRNA vaccines they are not something that came out of thin air in the last couple of years.

        The important message is that we still don’t know if Novavax will get approved by regulators, including the TGA, and when the supply of Novavax will make it into the country. So, the best vaccine you can get is the one that is available right now. No vaccine gets approved in Australia that does not pass a rigorous assessment of safety, quality and effectiveness so I would strongly recommend not waiting for Novavax, and to get a vaccine that is available right now. So, you are protected as we have multiple outbreaks of Delta and increasing presence of Omicron in the country. Ultimately if TGA approves and the vaccine is produced at a large-scale internationally, we should have Novavax available in Australia next year to just add another tool to our toolbox of vaccines available here.

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          Analitik

          Dr Lucas De Toca, COVID-19 Primary Care Response First Assistant Secretary:

          No vaccine gets approved in Australia that does not pass a rigorous assessment of safety, quality and effectiveness

          lol

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    Furiously+Curious

    Could it be that athletes need more blood circulating to their muscles, so they have more, and bigger blood vessels? I saw that young men generally were more prone to after vaccine heart problems.
    But nothing to see here.

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      Ross

      See Tel comment at #11.

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      Analitik

      Also athletes will push their hearts much closer or to the limits than normal people, especially in activities requiring short periods at maximum intensity (eg soccer players sprinting to the ball or for position). It is quite likely that many (all?) of the vaccinated have levels of heart damage from mild myocarditis that are almost unnoticeable in everyday activities.

      Spike protein was found to enter cardiomyocytes in vitro, and cytotoxicity was detected at 24 hours post exposure, and “profound cytopathogenic effects” were visible at 96 hours in cardiomyocytes.

      The spike protein alone of SARS-CoV-2 has been found to have damaging effects on endothelial function. In fact, the spike protein alone was found to produce pro-apoptotic factors that were determined by researchers to be responsible for endothelial cell death. Endothelial cells that were treated with the spike protein showed mitochondrial fragmentation and dysmorphic changes, as well as reduced mitochondrial respiration with redox stress, but increased glycolysis, and it was shown that the S protein alone damaged endothelial cells by this mechanism. Interestingly, in those in vitro studies, cell function was found to be restored by adding N-acetyl-L-cysteine, which is a reactive oxygen species inhibitor.

      The spike protein has been found, without other viral elements, to stimulate cell signaling in human cardiac pericytes that has been associated with cardiac cell dysfunction. Some of this dysfunction includes findings of increased amounts of the following pro-inflammatory cytokines (those involved in cytokine storms) in cardiac pericytes on in vitro exposure to S protein: MCP1, IL-6, IL-1B and TNF-alpha. TNF-alpha is specifically associated with heart failure and myocarditis.

      Caspase-3 is associated with apoptosis. When coronary artery endothelial cells were exposed to spike protein, they were found to have increased Caspase 3/7 activity, which was correlated with pro-apoptotic effect. Some of the above activity was through the ACE-2 receptor, but more data showed involvement of the CD-147 receptor on those cells, and we have seen above that both pathways are used by spike proteins for cell entry. The cell death experienced in myocarditis seems likely to be at least partly due to this activity.

      Electrocardiogram (EKG) abnormalities have also been found following COVID vaccine administration. This includes diffuse ST elevation and an inverted T-wave in lead III, as well as sinus tachycardia.

      Finally, given that we hear from our government how the cases of myocarditis brought “very rarely” by the vaccines are “usually mild”, a comment by pathologist Dr. Roger Hodkinson

      Myocarditis is never mild, particularly in young healthy males. It’s an inflammation of the heart muscle, the pump of the body. And we don’t know what percent of the heart muscle cells would have died in any one attack of myocarditis. The big thing about heart muscle, heart muscle fibers, is that they do not regenerate, . . . so you’re stuck with an unknown percentage of your heart muscle cells having died. We can’t estimate the number, and therefore the long-term results are utterly unpredictable. We do know . . . that myocarditis can present decades later, with premature onset of heart failure that would otherwise not have been expected. So it’s a terrible worry for these people to know what’s going to happen to them in the future. . . . It’s not trivial.

      https://pdmj.org/papers/myocarditis_paper/

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    Major. Distraction

    Hi Joanne, Its me again. Do I have a story for you. And all your readers.

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21055989-understanding-risk-bat-coronavirus-emergence-grant-notice

    Dr. Fauci did fund the Wuhan Institute of Virology. For 5 years.

    This document is 528 pages long is the Approved project proposal from the NIH to ECO HEALTH ALLIANCE INC. *Note Dr. Anthony Fauci is the Director of NIH & NIAID.
    This document details all the Labs, all the scientists, all the research into bat-borne corona viruses.
    Once you find this document is real. Go to page 124. read C3: Specific Aim 3. Testing predictions on CoV inter-species transmission”.

    I do hope you believe me now.

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    I gave up trying to give blood ages ago (2006 to be precise). It was so utterly unpleasant with people trying to find a vein, unsuccessfully for minutes.

    When in hospital a few years back I warned the nurses but they did not believe me. After two had stuffed around with no achievement they got an older nurse, done instantly.

    My wife, a nurse, concurs with some of the comments above, that the uni trained nurses do not appear to be trained or even interested in such basic skills and too often are just angling for the latest management position. In the meantime patient care suffers. Given that many older nurses were removed in the unjustified jab requirement this will only get worse.

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    Major. Distraction

    This is not cryptic, you know where I’m going with this. Follow the projects end date. Event 201 date. And the WHO announcement date. It is a sequence of events.
    RESEARCH Department of Health and Human Services National Institutes of Health Notice of Award Issue Date: 05/27/2014 NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES Grant Number: 1 RO 1 Al 110964-01 FAIN: R01Al110964
    Principal lnvestigator(s): PETER DASZAK,PHD
    Project Title: Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence
    Aleksei President 460 West 34th Street 17th Floor New York, NY 100012317
    Award e-mailed to: (b)(6) ———–
    Budget Period: 06/01/2014-05/31/2015 Project Period: 06/01/2014 – 05/31/2019

    Event 201:The next severe pandemic will not only cause great illness and loss of life but could also trigger major cascading economic and societal consequences that could contribute greatly to global impact and suffering. The Event 201 pandemic exercise, conducted on October 18, 2019, vividly demonstrated a number of these important gaps in pandemic preparedness as well as some of the elements of the solutions between the public and private sectors that will be needed to fill them. The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, World Economic Forum, and Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation jointly propose these recommendations.
    When/where
    Friday, October 18, 2019
    8:45 a.m. – 12:30 p.m.
    The Pierre hotel
    New York, NY

    The World Health Organisation:
    The World Health Organization (WHO) on March 11, 2020, has declared the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak a global pandemic (1). At a news briefing , WHO Director-General, Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, noted that over the past 2 weeks, the number of cases outside China increased 13-fold and the number of countries with cases increased threefold. Further increases are expected. He said that the WHO is “deeply concerned both by the alarming levels of spread and severity and by the alarming levels of inaction,” and he called on countries to take action now to contain the virus. “We should double down,” he said. “We should be more aggressive.”

    [ Is there a reference link to a document of record for this? – LVA]

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    its about time this subject was aired but it is not the only problem with the Jabs by any means

    Dr Sucharit Bhakdi,
    Thia-German microbiologist has been speaking about the vaccines not staying in the injection site after a Japanese autopsy because of an adverse reaction death that was shown the so called vaccine was all over the body
    as usual he was branded as a denier like anyone who asks questions
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyPjAfNNA-U

    l have asked several people who have had the Jab if the needle was aspirated and they have all said “no”
    l told a few about aspirating the needle because of veins and capillary’s in the area and about Dr John Campbell
    these people spoke to their GP’s who they said told them it was unnecessary because there are no veins anywhere that they will Jab you

    l can understand plebs being ignorant in their bliss that big brother will take care of them but when the supposedly educated/experts are not at least questioning anything because they are scared to loose their licence or be fined if they make a noise and they still push Jabbing everyone regardless because that is the answer to everything now, it is making a mockery of medicine and science

    its not as if this is new, so many good Doctors have stood up only to be sent to Coventry by the click

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      Lucky

      Agree. My GP said the same-
      In that area of the upper arm it is easy to find a place free of blood and only muscle.

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    Mark Allinson

    The theory that most of the reported adverse cardio affects from the vaxx is the result of poor injection technique is refuted by the results of the Japanese bio-distribution study, which originated from Pfizer.

    “The designers of the COVID-19 vaccines expected the contents of a jab to remain in the muscular tissue where they were injected, usually an arm. This assumption was wrong. A study document obtained from the Japanese regulatory agency shows that the vaccine contents enter the bloodstream and travel to the various organs …”

    So it doesn’t matter if the spike proteins are shot straight into an artery by a careless practitioner or enter the bloodstream via other pathways, the fact is the spike proteins will end up in the bloodstream and thus in the heart

    https://pandemictimeline.com/2021/05/japan-shares-biodistribution-study-of-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/

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      yes Mark

      it is funny how the aspiration of needles is being made an issue now that it is becoming quite clear that there are problems associated with the Jab that are hard to cover up with an expert coming out telling you to “trust me”
      of course it has nothing to do with the jab it is only the poor method of injection

      meanwhile listen to the experts and get stuck regularly LOL its the cure for all ill’s, coughs. colds and sore holes
      how could anyone sleep at night without at least one booster at this time ROFLMAO

      for the Mods, of course l am using a bit of satire, no need for moderation 😉

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      Analitik

      It’s likely that the difference is the degree of damage that is done rather then whether the myocarditis, clots etc occurring at all with intravenous vs intramuscular injection.

      The people who report the immediate metallic taste, which is indicative of intravenous injection, seem to have extremely bad reactions that very soon, if not straight away, after the shot. Those who seem to have been given a intramuscular shot normally have a delayed reaction.

      An intramuscular shot would have spike proteins and/or the mRNA capsules or DNA delivery virions leaching out into the bloodstream so at least some portion (hopefully the majority) operate around the injection site as intended. An intravenous shot has the mRNA capsules or DNA delivery virions going first to the heart and then spread throughout the body so the potential to wreak havoc is much, much greater.

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    RoHa

    Maybe. I’m still expecting to be dragged off to the re-education …er… quarantine camps in the North.

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    Mark Allinson

    The theory that most of the reported adverse cardio affects from the vaxx is the result of poor injection technique is refuted by the results of the Japanese bio-distribution study, which originated from Pfizer.

    “The designers of the COVID-19 vaccines expected the contents of a jab to remain in the muscular tissue where they were injected, usually an arm. This assumption was wrong. A study document obtained from the Japanese regulatory agency shows that the vaccine contents enter the bloodstream and travel to the various organs …”

    So it doesn’t matter if the spike proteins are shot straight into an artery by a careless practitioner or enter the bloodstream via other pathways, the fact is the spike proteins will end up in the bloodstream and thus in the heart.

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    John Marlow

    These two databases, plotting the batch numbers v. ill effects of the covid virus injections in the USA would suggest that the theory of bad practice is bunk.

    80% of the batches produced 1 or 2 ill effects, some batches produced over 1000. These batches cause problems in all American States showing the it was a universal problem, not caused by race, life style, climate, bad injection practice, etc.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dPKwYjtcOo

    Further investigation shows that all the bad batches end in 20A or 21A (but not all 20A and 21A batches are a problem).

    https://www.bitchute.com/embed/g62gcjrOuOyu/

    Are the bad batches a deliberate act or could it be a production problem?

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      Vicki

      John Marlow – virologist Robert Malone said quite early that he thought bad batches may explain adverse reactions. That surprised me. But it was later supported when a senior Pfizer employee resigned because of poor vaccine production surveillance. It may be one of many factors.

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    Major. Distraction

    Okay to see how this is a continual cover up. To which they are very sloppy. I won’t speculate here. With the document I provided above.

    Original approved proposal: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21055989-understanding-risk-bat-coronavirus-emergence-grant-notice

    Sloppy MSM cover up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_lab_leak_theory#Project_DEFUSE >>Everyone knows smart MSM people use Wikipedia right? 🙂 <<
    Here they claim there is no known evidence that any of the proposed experiments were ever carried out. Co-investigators on the rejected proposal included the EcoHealth Alliance, Ralph Baric from UNC, Linfa Wang from Duke–NUS Medical School in Singapore, and Shi Zhengli from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The above document exposes that lie.

    Proper research: https://drasticresearch.org
    Here you will find project DEFUSE. On this site is a massive breakdown of events leading to, while there is no mathematical proof, there is certainly evidence for an accidental laboratory leak leak theory.

    The current aggressive vaccine push and variants are to place us in a panic. And forget and even question the origins. Minding that the original variant has mutated several times since its creation. I say creation because there is a video of virologists claim who has studied it from its original form. And found this strain has an unusual make up and places its natural evolution chance 1 in 24 million. Which suggests Bio engineered.
    https://tube.doctors4covidethics.org/videos/watch/a288d316-9975-4673-a5bf-2f16ca5d7764

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    OldOzzie

    Vaccines ‘not as effective’ with Omicron variant of Covid-19

    The first study into how effective vaccines will be against the Omicron variant of Covid-19 shows that efficacy is significantly reduced and there is “extensive” ­immune escape of the virus in ­vaccinated individuals.

    The study by researchers at the Africa Health Research Institute in Durban found Omicron reduces virus-blocking antibodies by 40-fold in people who have received two doses of the Pfizer shot compared with the original strain.

    The preprint has been published in the journal Nature.

    The authors said although the initial vaccine regimen would provide significantly less protection against the Omicron variant, booster shots will help to lift protection up to levels that are afforded for other variants.

    The scientists tested 14 blood plasma samples collected from a dozen people who had been given a second Pfizer shot about a month earlier to gauge the concentration of antibodies needed to neutralise the virus.

    Those who had previously been infected with Covid-19 had significantly higher levels of neutralising antibodies than those who had merely been vaccinated.

    Alex Sigal, the head of research at the Africa Health Research Institute laboratory, said the loss of immune protection from vaccines against Omicron was “robust, but not complete”.

    “There will be more breakthrough of vaccine-induced immunity,” Professor Sigal said. “A good booster probably would decrease your chance of infection, especially severe infection leading to more severe disease. People who haven’t had a booster should get one, and people who have been previously infected should be vaccinated.”

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      OldOzzie

      Israeli study: People with natural immunity have more protection than double-dose vaccinated

      If you’re looking to argue that vaccine immunity is superior to natural immunity, start here and here. If you’re looking to argue the opposite, start with the other study from Israel published this summer that found people who recovered from COVID were 13 times more protected than the vaccinated were.

      Today’s new study crunched the numbers on COVID cases in the Israeli Ministry of Health’s database from August and September to see how many people got infected despite being immunized earlier, whether via infection and recovery or vaccination. Chew on the results, then read on.

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        OldOzzie

        “A huge drop”: 40-fold decline in neutralization by Pfizer vaccine against Omicron in first study

        Virologists and other infectious disease experts are trying to put their most positive spin on these new results but one, Florian Krammer, couldn’t muster the energy. “That is a huge drop,” he said of the numbers showing Pfizer’s vaccine much weaker against the new South African Omicron than everyone hoped. “Omicron sucks. I don’t like it,” he added.

        Many things can be said about the data but no one can say it was a surprise. The reason there was such a fuss among experts on Thanksgiving Day about the variant is that its spike protein had a mind-boggling array of mutations on it, many more than virologists would have expected from a variant at this stage of the pandemic. The vaccines train the immune system to produce antibodies targeted at the spike protein of the original Wuhan virus. The more different a variant’s spike is, the more trouble those antibodies will have identifying it. Omicron is very, very different.

        Scientists in South Africa took plasma from a small number of people, some of whom have received Pfizer’s vaccine and some of whom had COVID awhile ago and were then vaccinated with Pfizer. Result: The plasma from the latter group with “hybrid immunity” did well against Omicron. The plasma from the first group had more trouble. Note the graph at the bottom here:

        Both groups took a hit but the group with hybrid immunity started from a much higher baseline of protection. Scientists have known for months that hybrid immunity is the gold standard, conferring superhuman protection even against variants (like Omicron until a month ago) that haven’t evolved yet. That’s borne out in these results.

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    Grogery

    While it is very important to emphasise that the people administering any injection get it right …

    In regard to covid injections, I still believe that healthy people (especially children) in the low risk categories never should have been injected with an experimental substance in the first place.

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    Anton

    A key question: Were syringes aspirated in the phase-III tests of the vaccines? If they were, but are not being aspirated in actual deployment, that could explain a lot.

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    CHRIS

    Old Ozzie is correct about people with natural immunity…this applies to ALL viruses, not just COVID. The immune system of a human being is the most important factor in determining the level of immunity against ANY disease, and this is based on genetics and DNA. As people age, their immune system weakens; this is based on many factors. Some people have their immunity high, no matter what their age…others do not. FACT OF LIFE

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