The only Party that is rising fast is the Anti-Party
The system is broken and more and more people know it. Both major parties are facing very low primary votes in Australia. Fully 29% of voters are wandering around in the political wilderness looking for another option — a record in Australian politics. But just imagine how big that number of minor party voters would be if the news outlets served up more than the same-old two-party-dichotomy? At the moment the nightly news ignores every minor party unless they can mock them, or lord forbid, the journalists themselves want to vote for them — like the Teal-Green-Independents?
The only time a minor party gets interviewed is after the election and if they win the Preferences lottery.
Newspoll: Labor in front of Coalition but lead narrows
Simon Benson, The Australian
According to an election-eve Newspoll, commissioned by The Weekend Australian, Labor would be positioned to form majority government if the results are replicated at the polling booths on Saturday.
It would confirm Mr Albanese as the first modern day leader from the Labor Left to win office from Opposition.
But it would also mark a schism in Australian politics amid a flight to independents and minor parties with a record 29 per cent of voters claiming they intended to vote for anyone other than the Coalition or Labor.
Combined, the level of support for both major parties would mark a record low heading into an election.
For many minor parties the only advertising they can afford is to get their name onto the voting slip as a one issue party.
Voters in WA should know that Cam Tinley set up and ran the No Mandatory Vaccination Party in the WA State Election last year and did quite well even though this was before a single mandatory vaccination order even existed in WA. But when he tried to register for this federal election, he claims he did everything right, and met all the deadlines, but the Australian Electoral Commission failed to tick all the boxes they were supposed to check, and ran the clock out — thus preventing him from registering the party. If that’s what happened, it doesn’t seem legal to me. His name is on the ticket as “Unaffiliated” or Group P on the Senate form with Tricia Ayre. I don’t know what his other policies are, but at least we know where he stands on vaccination.
Put The Majors Last.
Possibly most people want another choice but we shall see if those people will actually put pencil to paper and make that choice or they chicken out and vote for the majors in preference to others. I made that choice to put the majors last and will never regret it as the majors have most definitely lost all credibility. Time for a change. Whether that will work or not only time will tell but it’s worth a try given the majors have lost the plot.
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Who, then, do you expect to govern if not the majors? Putting them last can’t improve anything.
As we look at that 29% declaring a pox on all your houses, note that this is the first election in nearly 20 years where there was not substantial opposition to the CAGW scam and the energy supply problems that it brings.
It was always my view that it was the Nationals who maintained the opposition to AGW. Why did they capitulate this time?
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The Nationals are part of the major party. They do not do what they promise, so they could not oppose the AGW scam. They just didn’t bother.
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A looser coalition would be better. Being the junior party doesn’t mean you have to be the lapdog. How many times has the country/Nats got the coalition over the line just to be robbed off when money on roads and infrastructure get poor funding. This government has wasted its political capital as did Abbott. All of the conservative like Paul Kelly etc say you should park your primary vote in the lapdog of the majors. That is old hat now.
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I just did exactly as planned (after visiting http://www.majorslast.com and creating my own how to vote card) and it felt satisfying. I am in very blue electorate but red town, and will be interested to see if my vote is mirrored. It makes no difference which of the majors runs things; they are indeed a uniparty.
In our electorate, my choices were actually quite close to the cards handed out by the 2 majors and the seemingly increasingly popular One Nation candidate. Other than putting the majors last LOL!!!! After watching Topher Field’s marbles video, this could be very advantageous.
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A lot of those will be ex Liberal voters that the Liberal Party no longer is interested in representing.
They aren’t deserting the Liberals.. The Liberals have deserted them..
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Done 🙂
Tempted to go back so I can get another sausage sanga. 😉
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“Tempted to go back so I can get another sausage sanga. 😉”
If you voted for any of the multitude of minuscule so called minor political parties, you would have done better had you voted for the sausage sanga
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Go Teal, Ian.. you know you want to vote for the destruction of Australia.
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“better had you voted for the sausage sanga”
Rather than a oozing pile of Green sludge, like you probably did, you mean ?
(If someone gave you a sheet to copy.)
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A Sausage Sanga would do a far better job of running the country than Albo and the Green could ever do..
Teals are the onion dropped on the cement.
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As I mentioned last thread.. in the Senate, put Liberals at #6.
Much as I detest the way they have deserted their voters, I still want to make sure that I get a choice between Libs and Lab/green if none of my other choices get elected.
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Having now read your #2.2 comment you definitely would have done better by voting Sausage Sanga #1
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Poor petty Ian. You would be better not voting at all, as your opinion is meaningless.
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A good reason for non compulsory voting.
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“voting Sausage Sanga #1”
NO, I will not be voting Lab/Green.
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See this video from Morgan C Jonas who is Group R (unamed) in Vicdanistan and how the AEC is giving incorrect information about voting for him and other independents. Numerous recorded phone calls prove it.
You don’t have to have a FB account to view the link.
https://fb.watch/d7KrNDMqFm/
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You have to admire the preparation and planning that has gone into the ‘Great Reset’.
The one I love is the what is apparently branch stacking false flags events used to bullet proof the major parties in each electorate from having a small number of new members turn up and upset the trough. That is if you can find out where the meeting to welcome new members actually occurs in the first place.
My memory of the AEC was a missing employee when Pauline Hanson was being accused of false registering a Party.
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The AEC is an entity of a fraudulent government representing a qusai-commonwealth, its no surprise they would act unethically as instructed by their bosses, consider the last two years of complete government disdain for anything representing a persons rights sovereign or otherwise, its of no surprise at all.
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There is no reason to believe Leftists haven’t infiltrated the AEC as with all other government departments and other institutions as per Rudy Dutschke’s “Long March Through the Institutions”.
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The AEC has disenfranchised me by not sending ballot papers, or not sending quickly enough. I applied on the day the election was called, 6 weeks ago. 😡
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And I made sure that all that I talked to were reminded WHO was the leader during this”Plandemic”and that was SCOMO.He and the liberals got what they deserved.Unfortunately,we will have to suffer with Albosleasy for the forseeble future.
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It’s almost as if Australia is a one party state, a LibLabGreen uniparty superparty.
And most of the Sheeple support it.
Once a nation becomes this dumbed down there is very little hope.
Where do you think we are on the Tytler cycle? My guess is (7).
1) From bondage to spiritual faith;
2) From spiritual faith to great courage;
3) From courage to liberty;
4) From liberty to abundance;
5) From abundance to complacency;
6) From complacency to apathy;
7) From apathy to dependence;
8) From dependence back into bondage.
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That’s incredible David. Thanks for the history lesson. Looks like we’re headed for 12 o’clock ‘ bondage’ on the Tyler cycle. If i was to reflect on history, isn’t this akin to times of civil unrest?
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Thanks Mike.
Note that even though that sequence is usually called the Tytler Cycle or the Fatal Sequence and attributed to Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee, it is not clear he wrote it.
He did write this, however, and relevant to today:
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Why do you think”Little Johnny Howard”took away our guns Mike?It was NOT for our own safety.Hoddle street and Tassie were just convenient for the government.In my opinion,howard was acting under instruction from the UN and or Klaus Schwab.
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all sounds a bit random and over simplified really
the great leap from bondage to spiritual faith would have been fun when the spiritual faith leaders were dominating the serfs.
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From a person that experienced 20 years of communism.
I escaped in 1981 from Poland looking for freedom and democracy. I thought democracy was an ideal where everyone in the west cherished and understood. In the 80-ties I realised that a significant portion of Australian society wanted peace at any price. They didn’t want nukes pointing at Australia, thought that removing Americans from Australian ports and renouncing defence treaties would take the nuke threat away. I was amazed how many people preferred to live as subjugated citizens believing that the threat will go away..
The world is like a high school yard. The stronger will always bully the weak. At the international level this is the same. And I am not just talking about Putin. The Ukraine was primarily caused by the weak stand of the west. Business Uber alles. USA withdrawal in 1 day from Afghanistan with people falling off the plane was a clear message to the other bullies. America is weak again. German dependence on a Russian cheap gas signalled to Putin that another Ribbentrop-Molotov or Putin-Merkel pact can enacted. Ukraine can be taken.
In Australia democracy is falling apart with increasing censorship, hate campaigns by the media and junk climate science leading the charge. For years being centre right I voted for libs. Now I can’t do that, as they betrayed my ideals of individuality and freedom.
Sadly most people never noticed. They still behave like everything is unchanged and libs/lab combo will live on forever. Democracy being compulsory (the right to vote should never be as such) forces all of us to the lowest denominator. The lazy, the expecting something for nothing are always in charge.
This is not a democracy that I imagined Australia should stand for. The ideals of democracy and freedom we all should aspire for, are not appreciated by the majority of voters. No wonder that democracy is an unstable system destined to fall.
I hope Ukrainians fight for freedom will awaken some of the Australian voters. Am I dreaming? Find out in a few hours.
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We need a shock election to wake up. i sincerely hope people do vote away from Lib/Lab parties. Sick of incompetence, lies, lockdowns, vaccines, mandates etc. The PM has been weak and incompetent and the opposition ‘leader’ is our version of Joe Biden in my opinion. He would be a puppet to the extremists just like the bloke in the US. We are all voting for the various Freedom parties.
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The Liberal’s strategy of being as like as the Labor party and denying them things to talk about was a predictable flop, as it turned into questioning the Leader’s character. Scotty was on the back foot as the incumbent and had to own the decisions (even if they were State matters). That the Liberals didn’t foresee this reveals their lack of nouce and their inability to realise his unpopularity.
My prediction: They would have won if they’d Done a Turnbull on him a month before the election.
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The last 3 years could have been worse?
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🙂 🙂
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I voted at the embassy today, only an hour or so before they closed (nothing like a deadline to help with motivation), and the person at the desk explained about the options of voting above the line, or 12 below the line, but nothing about filling in all boxes below the line.
When I got there, the place was like a ghost town, but by the time I’d waded through 51 senate candidates, there was a queue of people. I saw a stack of Labor how to vote cards at a discrete distance from the desk and booths, but none from any other party (though I really didn’t look hard), I guess there was probably a selection available for those too dim to know what they are doing.
I have never understood the “how to vote” things (from any party or candidate) at polling booths – if someone is so unsure of how to vote that they need biased guidance only minutes before casting their ballot, then, I generally feel that the person shouldn’t really be eligible to vote. On the other hand, I actually like the fact that all enrolled people have to get their name signed off (and ideally, actually vote). Maybe I am too harsh and also, just contrary?
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Having handed out many “how to vote” sheets myself for freedom parties and before that the Liberals (not a freedom party) I too have wondered what is the point. If someone hasn’t made up their mind by then, then they shouldn’t be voting. On the other hand, the more positive way to look at it is that they have made up their minds and they just want to follow official party preferences, not that they have to.
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This year going to a few freedom party meet and greets I spoke with some who had experience in voting places including being scrutineers, one who had worked for the AEC for many years said its estimated at least 60% of voters walking into the booths haven’t decided what they’ll do, either randomly tick boxes or write an insult or view.
I’ve heard this figure repeated and considering the apathy of people concerning their freedoms or health its not looking good.
The best we can hope for is a hung parliament (no pun intended) with enough minors and independents that will stick to their promises when it comes to a vote.
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As I walked in, I was approached by a Labor person.. I said.. “No thanks, I know how I’m voting”
Then deliberately took one from UAP guy 🙂
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I’m going to ask out loud which candidate is in favour of fracking and fossil fuel apart from the current incumbent . Who is there as an independent but green candidate .
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“Then deliberately took one from UAP guy 🙂”
Oooooh you are sooooo brave>
What had the UAP guy done to be treated so shabbily so early in the day?
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More petty trolling from Ian.
Can he go any lower?
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easily, you must be new
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We had a great discussion afterwards about how Albo and the greens were destined to ruin Australia.
Or did you vote Teal, thinking they actually stood for something worthwhile, (because you were told by a poll or the ABC) ?
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A vote for UAP is a vote for the Greens. Mind how you go.
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What a weird comment !
How do you work that out?
No way my preferences will go anywhere near the Greens.
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“A vote for UAP is a vote for the Greens. Mind how you go.”
Nice one e+gordo. Hopefully b.nice will ignore your advice.
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“will ignore your advice.”
Because it is idiotic nonsense
If you could engage your brain, you also might realise that.
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It would have been more correct to say a vote for Clive is a vote for gorebull worming.
Being a political realist he would have given his preferences to the Greens if they reciprocated, but that couldn’t happen.
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“a vote for Clive is a vote for gorebull worming.”
What a weird nonsense post ! He has no interest in the Greens whatsoever.
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Have you forgotten when Al Gore wooed him? How he supported the ETS?
His political platform is primarily rhetoric.
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UAP had a preference agreement with the other Freedom parties (One Nation and the Liberal Democrats) who are all opposed to the greens. Reignite Democracy Australia (RDA) supported the Freedom parties with their slogan of ‘Put the Majors Last’ and Craig Kelly, UAP’s candidate for the Lower house was also anti-Greens and so el-gordo must be listening to the ABC or something.
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The Teal Party? Oh that’s right, they’re the ones that support windmills and solar farms in every one else’s electorate. And diversity, inclusiveness and equity for all … except males. 22 candidates standing, only 3 males. Where’s the howling from the media about this unrepresentative gaggle?
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Done properly handing out how to vote cards can be effective in persuading the undecided.
Yesterday while waiting in the queue my wife was engaged in conversation by a very nice lady holding a pile of how to vote cards. My wife out of politeness then took a how to vote card from the lady. That was the fifth very nice lady from the teal greens.
I had previously warned my wife about the teal greens being fake independents. She was horrified that she had fallen for the niceness of the card pusher.
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Having handed out many “how to vote” sheets myself for freedom parties and before that the Liberals (not a freedom party) I too have wondered what is the point.
As you have handed out “many how to vote sheets”, I am surprised you “have wondered what is the point.” I thought the sheets were to ensure the voter marked their votes in the order that gave a particular party the best chance of garnering the maximum number of preferences as the way preferences are distributed is arcane.
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“as the way preferences are distributed is arcane”
Yes, I can understand how the preference system would be very confusing to you.
You would need a poll to tell you what to do..
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You have a problem, don’t you Ian.
You won’t know who to vote for until after counting has finished.
Then it will be too late to vote.
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“You have a problem, don’t you Ian.
You won’t know who to vote for until after counting has finished.
Then it will be too late to vote.”
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Happy to disappoint you b.nice but as I voted last Monday -16/5/2022-I don’t need any advice from you or anyone else
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They had polls out that early did they!
You seem to need fake poll advice on everything else.
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Wow, you were actually able to follow the “how to vote” paper someone sent you !
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“Wow, you were actually able to follow the “how to vote” paper someone sent you !”
Actually I was helping others rather than the other way around.
No doubt you’ll be able to send your usual sneering reply
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More self-aggrandizement…. Oh aren’t you are such a good little boy. !
Every one of your comments in this thread has been “sneering”.
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“Wow, you were actually able to follow the “how to vote” paper someone sent you !”
Actually I was helping others rather than the other was around.
That will probably give you something to sneer at.
Re-posted as original has vanished.
The post may unvanish the original
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“Every one of your comments in this thread has been “sneering”.
Not every one. Only those sent to you
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Thanks for the admission.. 🙂
I’m obviously on your mind 24/7.. 😉
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‘I’m obviously on your mind 24/7..””
Not really but you are on my mind right now as I watch the graciousness with which Morrison is conceding defeat and compare it with your spiteful and unpleasant and antagonistic and truly loathsome comments directed at those who have different views from yours.
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Voters are put off as the whole voting process in Australia is far too complicated. It should be like a horse race when first past the post wins it.
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No to first past the post, its too easy to put fake candidates to take votes from your opposition.
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discreet
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Some Labor Quotations
When I joined the Labor Party, it contained the cream of the working class. But as I look about me now, all I see are the dregs of the middle class. When will you middle class p@rverts stop using the Labor Party as a cultural spittoon? – Kim Beazley Snr to an ALP State Conference, circa 1970.
If there was a university degree for greed, you c@@ts would all get first-class honours. – Australian Treasurer Paul Keating in 1985 after backbenchers had complained about having to substantiate, for tax purposes, their electoral allowances.
He is lofty, and I am eminent. – Gough Whitlam, comparing himself to Malcolm Fraser, 1975.
It is the first time the burglar has been appointed as caretaker. – Gough Whitlam, 11th November 1975, following his Dismissal by the Governor-General, Sir John Kerr.
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The political scene today has completely changed from the 70s. Back then it was the blue collar workers, supported by trade unions who voted Labor, the professionals and business people, including small business, voting Liberal and the farmers voting National.
Today we have almost no manufacturing sector and blue collar workers are mainly self-employed tradies. Voting intention is now based on where we stand in the culture wars along lines of gender, identity and climate change politics. Business has shifted from being focused on market based competition to rent seeking from government handouts and big government is now dominating the business scene. And the media has given up on reporting and is now focused on influencing.
It seems that after 120 years of federation we have been reset and need to start from scratch.
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Think about this –
https://patriotpost.us/memes/88488-vegetables-2022-05-19
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My Wife who has worked as Electoral Officer in Voting centres previously, said when she went to do early voting this week, no one asked her the question she had to ask when crossing voters names off the list, before giving them the Ballot Slips for HOR and Senate
“Have you voted before in this Election”
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Chuckle.. They asked me that when I voted this morning at 8:05am.. I said, ” No, I haven’t had time to yet ! ”
We had a good chuckle.
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Yeah, but that polling official was in the deep South coast of nsw and was probably so happy that they weren’t just over the border in vicdanistan.
I look at Nuovo Sud Whales and feel depressed; but then I always perk up when I remember that I could be living in Victoriah.
Freedom is relative and so subjective.
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In most practical areas there is little difference
I remember having the same smug attitude when I lived in Sydney, then moved to VIC and realised it was pretty much BS
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Until ballot papers have a valid “check-box” for “None of the Above” or “No suitable candidate has been presents”, it is al a bit dodgy. And that box should be “weighted” above ANY of the others.
As they say in the anti-rape ads: NO MEANS NO!”
Appropriate, really.
As foir tax-payer funding for votes received: a monstrous rort.
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I have thought the US elections should have a “None of the Above” option but am not sure what to do if “None of the Above” wins. So far, the best solution I’ve come up with is that the previous office holder would remain in office for an additional 6 months after which a new election would be held and none of the candidates on the ballot that was won by “None of the Above” could run in the new election. Does anybody have a better solution to a win for “None of the Above”?
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With government incompetence or malfeasance they would put it at the top…
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The ballot paper itself is the none of the above option. Just put a diagonal line across it. I’ll be interested in the number of informal votes this time around.
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““None of the Above””
Would be interesting of “None of the above” actually won 🙂
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“presented”!
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Vegetables
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Oops Snap another ian
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At Least it was a Good Clean Fight
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Chariots of Fire Tribute
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Vote
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Election Day Decisions
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“It would be a madness to allow Labor to govern if it is at all possible to prevent it”
https://newcatallaxy.blog/2022/05/21/it-would-be-a-madness-to-allow-labor-to-govern-if-it-is-at-all-possible-to-prevent-it/
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Some great comments on that blog !
All straight to the point.
Basically telling the Libs what I have heard from many other people….
… that if they want to behave like Marxist/leftist suckophants… then they don’t get voted for.
Particularly liked comments from Bruce Of Newcastle and Cassie of Sydney.
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I think it needs to be discussed about whether universal suffrage for voting is appropriate.
Else, how do you avoid the example, misattributed to Alexander Tytler?
The answer is the “40 shilling freeholder” along with strict constitutional controls on government spending.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty-shilling_freeholders?wprov=sfla1
This was a system practiced in various English heritage countries whereby a qualification to vote came about by ownership of property. It wasn’t a large amount by the standards of the day but just enough to prove you worked and saved and were frugal enough to purchase a modest asset.
If not, what’s to stop the situation of the misattributed Tytler quote? In fact we have that exact situation now. Every election cycle the LibLabGreen uniparty spend or borrow more of our taxes and the debt goes up relentlessly.
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Sounds good David but how then do you prevent the property owners from voting themselves largesse out of the public treasury?
Same goes for any system other than universal suffrage.
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Forrest, I also added strict constitutional controls on government spending. I would include a requirement for a balanced budget in that and borrowing limits except for times of war.
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Thanks David for your simple explanation for the war in the Ukraine.
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I didn’t see your idea of strict control on government spending.
Where would that put the average person by analogy if they were to adopt similar spending controls. The most common road to wealth is to borrow to buy appreciating assets (like houses). Does the average person never spend in anticipation of future income?
There is a sound argument for governments borrowing to fund infrastructure development. Back in time the railways were funded by issuing bonds. In my view it is borrowing for recurrent expenditure which is the real evil.
But back to universal suffrage, even with a balanced budget what is to prevent those with voting rights from allocating all expenditure to themselves? And that would include taxes raised from those with no voting rights.
And what would be the consequence for example of ending spending on unemployment benefits or the medical system?
I agree with your principle. I just see complexity in the implementation. The law of unintended consequences remains a universal constant.
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A fuller version of the Tytler quote:
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage.”
Apparently, it is from a work entitled: “The Fall of the Athenian Republic.”
And a thought from late author, Robert Heinlein:
“If you are part of a society that votes, then do so. There may be no candidates and no measures you want to vote for … but there are certain to be ones you want to vote against. In case of doubt, vote against. By this rule you will rarely go wrong.”
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A loose coalition of minor parties is no-one’s idea of a competent government with political experience.
It’s better to try for a hung parliament with sensible minor parties giving support to the Coalition to get it over the line. Those minor parties can then do to the Coalition what the Greens did to Labor in the Gillard years, which if their policies on climate and energy are anything to go by, will be to force some sense into them.
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I would rather we have a hung government that could do nothing than a LibLabGreen uniparty for whom any and all actions will be harmful.
Don’t forget that the very first thing the new uniparty government does will be to sign us up to the dreadful and draconian WHO Pandemic Treaty.
Conveniently timed for the release of Monkeypox v1.
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Of all the possibilities a hostile senate is the best safeguard against stupidity or evil or in rare cases sound governance.
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William F. Buckley Jr commented that:
..he would “rather be governed by the first 500 names in the Boston telephone directory than by the faculty at Harvard.”
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In the name of that disease, the k is silent
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I expect Labor to win, in spite of a large ‘protest movement’. You see, I believe the average lefty values winning way above any principle or need, whereas a large proportion of those on the conservative side will put principle first. This will result in losses for both sides, but much larger for the Libs. Hence we will get a Labor or possibly Labor/Greens government.
Yes, that would be a disaster, but in reality, the current crop of Libs are stuffing the place up anyway, so my hope is that the party will understand that their only chance next time around will be by returning to real conservative values.
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Agreed but the coalition know that they will be trounced if they return to real conservative values. There are numerically far too many who quite like socialist style benefits for a party of principle to prevail.
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I have some hope that there are other voters like me who perceive the disaster of socialism beyond the bribes offered. If you are correct Forrest, then those idiots deserve the future they will get.
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GAJ there are indeed other voters like you (and me). I would put the number like us in the millions.
And the problem of course is that not only do the idiots get the future they deserve. We get that future too and we do not deserve it.
That I think is the promise of the non-uniparty candidates. They can speak their mind. Sadly groups like the teal greens have figured it that promise as well and are distorting the political picture against genuine independents.
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The Teal are in the employ of big wind and big solar.. The money men.
Even if they had minds of their own.. they could not speak them.
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mmmm trouble is we all get it
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Returning to conservative values would capture a lot of the traditional labour working class Catholic vote. The ones who can’t stand the green/alphabet woke brigade but don’t see the coalition as any different than Labor in their embrace of climate fairytales and minority appeasement.
Imagine if they could stand up and say- we will not use your taxes to subsidise unproven energy production. We will start a nuclear power station feasibility study this year, we will ensure your children are not indoctrinated by left wing gender fantasies.
They’d have the vote of every quiet Australian straight away. And they’d lose a few doctors’ wives.
No one vote LNP because of their climate policy.
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Both sides, libs and labs are deeply attached to the side benefits of their behaviour in office.
Those benefits can be summarized in one word:
Munny.
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I think we all know how this next 3 years will pan out.
The ALP will win, most likely in minority government. The boats will start back up, with numbers that blow anything we have seen before as people from Sri Lanka and SE Asia look to escape the massive food shortages and poverty that’s beginning to emerge. The ALP will announce new CC measures, that includes commencing on a path of closing down all FF exports and they will commence on a massive CC and welfare spending exercise. Inflation will spike up rapidly and our dollar will crash along with the economy. And, we can expect lock downs and mandates to be brought back, but this time with federal interventions and possibly expanded to include fuel and electricity rationing and other CC measures.
The final act before their term ends will be to try and push through a “First Nations” voice to parliament that will be the first step towards the end of democracy and into the next era of rule by authority. Of course this needs a referendum so we can expect the propaganda machine to be cranked up to the maximum and the attacks on Murdoch media will ramp up, possibly with legislation to force out opposing voices.
We need a miracle to avoid the worst outcome of a Labor/Green/Teal alliance, so let’s hope the senate delivers and acts to block the worst of the bad list of planned radical policies.
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Yes, the senate has often been the handbrake on ambitious (good or bad) government.
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Many here will cheer that. They can’t tell the difference between lib and greens. How dumb can you be and still type?
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The newspoll results always add a rider that the two part preferred is based on how preferences flowed from the last election. The outcome of this election could be totally different to what they expect because a lot of us are more savvy about preferential voting.
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Yep, I seriously doubt that anyone who didn’t want Shorten as PM, would want Albanese as PM. Any first preferences lost by the LNP will be to parties further to the right. They will eventually flow back to the LNP.
I reckon Morrison would be more confident than 3 years ago.
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“They will eventually flow back to the LNP.”
That’s the plan. Especially in the Senate.
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Whenever I think about elections, the second verse of Who’ll Stop The Rain by Creedence Clearwater Revival always comes to mind:
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Seeing as I’ve never won a bet in my life I might put a fiver on Albo to win, that surely should do it .
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That it is still only a two-horse race is why Australia will lose, no matter the result.
Why is it that our “system” offers only bad or worse? Where is good and better?
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Don’t forget the Australian Debt Clock.
https://australiandebtclock.com.au/
Watch the second entry “Total Government Debt” go up in real time at an alarming rate.
I think the UAP and Liberal Democrats are the only parties to have expressed concern about the massive debt.
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Instead of sitting through the usual 4 hours of election night tv special (not that I ever do) saying “it’s too early to tell” about 10,000 times, how about I just ring Klaus Schwab and ask him who’s going to win? 😈😅
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As that old murderous Georgian Josef Stalin is supposed to have said:
It’s not who votes that counts, but who COUNTS the VOTES.”
Ya reckon he might have known something about such things?
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Well, that was before modern times.
Now they don’t even have to count ’em. They just rig ’em from day one.
I’d have more confidence in a dinner service by Basil & Manuel than in the current crop of sell-out, inept, lying, deleted-expletive pollies.
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I happened across an Aussie article yesterday that is beyond “bombshell”.
One for Jo after the election circus has gone.
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The oldest democracy in Asia just collapsed
Sri Lanka has defaulted on its debts for the first time in its history. It has faced an economic and political crisis triggered by global shock waves from the pandemic and the war in Ukraine. Inflation has hit 40% and the shortages of food, fuel, and medicines combined with the rolling power blackouts, have led to nationwide civil unrest. Their currency has been collapsing and in the face of rising US dollars, they are unable to pay their debt.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/sovereign-debt-crisis/sri-lanka-first-emerging-market-to-default/
Covid, debt, shortages, cost of living, lies, corruption…this is what happens and why voting for the next bunch of idiot puppets will have Oz on the same trajectory.
June, July, August…😉
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Get woke, go broke.
https://www.firstpost.com/world/sri-lankan-economic-crisis-socialism-kills-slowly-but-when-combined-with-chinese-debt-trap-policy-it-kills-surelyhas-10525451.html
Sri Lankan economic crisis: Socialism kills slowly, but when combined with Chinese debt trap policy it kills surely
The problem in Sri Lanka lies in nationalisation, socialist policies with a mixture of populism, subsidies and freebies, and a controlled economy
Harshil Mehta
April 06, 2022 21:14:43 IST
SEE LINK FOR REST
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I loved their green policy to bam fertilizers. That was a real winner!
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Other countries will see this and also decide to stop making debt payments, even if their situation is still manageable. This is the start of the big crunch and no one escapes aside from the super rick and political elites.
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Watch now as the PLAN rocks up to their totally-owned port of Trincomalee to deliver “humanitarian aid”.
Don’t forget, they also own DARWIN.
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Point just raised by my Wife re SMH Article – (Interrupting Fine Red and watching replay Practice 2 F1 Barcelona)
Where in the Heck are all the Men?
The female wave
Table shows the federal electorates with an above-average proportion of female voters
Percentage of Australian voters that are women: 51.2%
30 Electorates with Women (person must be a Biologist) 52% and above
Have the Men all TransGendered or just been emasculated into Neuter Gender?
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COMING SOON – Probably Posed by a Biologist?
What is a woman? The question that stumped a Supreme Court nominee now resonates through our culture. And, in a rare coup of timing, the movie What Is a Woman?, produced by the Daily Wire, starring Matt Walsh and directed by my friend Justin Folk, will be released on June 1. Matt and Justin traveled around the world, searching for the answer to a simple question that suddenly has become a puzzle.
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Interesting that many of these ‘women heavy’ electorates are among the wealthiest in the country- Wentworth, Kooyong etc. So much for the supposed income inequality, eh?
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Do a search on Why women live longer than men.
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OldOzzie:
Have watched the first hour of Best Science (short version B.S.) by Political Commentators. So far it doesn’t seem to be a whipe out of the Liberals.
Had a fall and put my backout earlier in the day which didn’t help my temper. Then went to the local polling station and was surprised to find the local Lib-Dem candidate there handing out How to Vote cards. I retaliated with some One Nation “Mean Girls, Please Explain” stickers. Curiously when I gave some to the Labor blokes they both laughed, but the Liberal woman (stranger) wasn’t amused.
returned home to treat my sore back with some fine red – Main & Cherry Grenache 2021. They are a small producer in McLaren Vale (actually Blewitt Springs) and this got a mention by James Halliday. It’s lower in alcohol (13.9%) than most Grenaches (14.5%+) and rather nice (and not overpriced like a lot of Halliday selections). Have ordered some more as I can call them an Independent.
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Here they come – boatload of Illegal Centrelink Seekers intercepted.
Hey Kristina ..they got the message.
Home Affairs Minister Karen Andrews has warned that people-smugglers are “already trying to start up their illegal trade on the eve of an election” after the Sri Lankan navy intercepted a fishing vessel carrying dozens of people on Wednesday. A fishing vessel and two dinghies were stopped by the Sri Lankan navy off the Batticaloa coast earlier this week, with 40 individuals including four people-smugglers apprehended for attempting to “illegally migrate to a foreign country by sea”.
Ms Andrews, who met senior Sri Lankan officials in December about strengthening co-operation to combat people-smugglers, told The Weekend Australian “it’s already starting”.
“We know people-smugglers are watching and waiting for a change in Australia’s government, and they’re already trying to start up their illegal trade on the eve of an election,” she said.
“Only the Morrison government can keep people-smugglers out of business through our strong stance and consistency on border policy – no one who comes here illegally by boat will ever be allowed to settle in Australia.”
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I have three kids, two living in my house dirt cheap and the other comes to me when he needs money. They all vote labor while enjoying the standard of living I worked for.
Labor are cargo-cultists.
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For a look at what awaits us after the next LibLabGreen uniparty is elected take a look at the latest video from Rebel News.
https://youtu.be/JS6TYi9UmQI
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Breaking News Saturday
vessel has been intercepted in a likely attempt to illegally enter Australia from Sri Lanka.
The Australian Government’s policy remains unchanged. We will intercept any vessel seeking to
reach Australia illegally and to safely return those on board to their point of departure or
country of origin.
Measures and safeguards are in place to enable actions and activities to be undertaken in
accordance with Australian domestic law and Australia’s obligations under international law.
The overriding priority for all agencies involved in Operation Sovereign Borders is the safety of
all persons involved, including potential illegal immigrants and vessel crews as well as
Australian personnel.
In line with long standing practice, we will make no further comment.
RADM Justin Jones, CSC, RAN
Commander – Joint Agency Task Force Operation Sovereign Borders
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They are betting Green Labor will be the winning faction of the LibLabGreen uniparty.
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Well, I voted for the 3 loser parties absolutely last on the lists.
Unfortunately there was no “Golden party” to vote for…
https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_rc6o5suoXt1smv61l.mp4
Awwww….just too cute…
Doggo does what pollies promise but do the opposite. Heh..
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Refer my post #34.
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Copied this from elsewhere:
Just went to vote in Goldstein. Lots of people in Teal shirts. Only 2 in Green shirt. The Teals are all GREENIES posing as Teals.
You are being scammed by a bunch of crackpots.
I approached the Green chap and asked him how much CO2 there is in the atmosphere? And what IS the atmosphere made of. Did not have a clue! I asked him if it was wise to strongly believe in a theory of which he did not have an iota of knowledge about? He answered,he doesn’t nee$ to know,he just believes what the scientists tell him. I said, but scientists disagree on most things…don’t you think it’s dangerous to be a SHEEP.
FOLKS…DO NOT LET THE CAUSE CHASING CRACKPOTS ANYWHERE NEAR THE LEVERS OF POWER.
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We see the same thing here with the few greenie psychophants that infect the forum.
Maybe they have learnt some snippets about the reality of “climate” while here, even with their ears, eyes and minds closed…
… but basically they are as pig-ig as that Green-chap you talked to.
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watching the ABC coverage online, one of the presenters described the Teals as “left”. funny how so many independents all happen to lean the same way, isn’t it?
It’s a disgrace, and I hope if any of these puppets win, that hey are loudly, and routinely referred to as such.
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James:
If they get onto Channel 2 etc. then they are “Left”.
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ABC calling someone “left”…
Wow.. those people must be in Mao territory !
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In reply to Jo’s editorial:
Anyone who thinks lib/lab/green is a unaparty deserves what they get: Something designed by a committee.
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Apparently the Libs who are surviving are the Conservative Libs. That says it all.
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Yep, the moderates are already claiming that their electorates loved them but sent a message to their boss.
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When you look at the autopsy of the LNP, we all picked this last year when Schomo decided to endorse net zero and move left. Albo saw the opportunity and pretended to move right, looking to pick up some of those lost LNP votes. In the case of the ALP. their pretend move to the right lost votes to the greens, but all those votes came back in preferences, whereas the LNP votes only partly came back. The end result is an ALP with a primary vote of less than 32% (as I type) and forming government, possibly minority, tbc.
If there is anything that’s positive, it’s the senate. With such a low primary vote the ALP will not be able to get anything through the conservative block, even with the greens. You would think that the LNP, UAP, Lib Dems, and One Nation will form a block that prevents anything off the reservation from getting through.
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I wonder what all the inner-city Holmes-a-Court Teal voters would have voted in the Senate ?
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You would think that the LNP would have picked up the majority in the teal seats. Assuming at least one teal is holding the lower house balance, Holmes a Court’s extra planned billions will still depend on the senate passing bills to transfer a big slab of the largess to his big green investments. His wanted outcome would have been a lower house teal holding the balance and a Labor Green senate majority.
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On the positive side I won my first bet – ever !
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With the election win by the Green Labor faction of the LibLabGreen uniparty, the collapse of Australia will come just a little sooner than under the Liberal faction.
Be prepared to see such absurdities as anthropogenic global warming written into law as an indisputable “scientific fact” with penalties for being a “denier”, similarly with gender identities beyond the traditional two, urgent signing of the WHO Pandemic Treaty, urgent shutting of coal power stations, restrictions on motor vehicle use, restrictions on free speech, even higher taxes, bigger spending and national debt etc..
How can the people be so stupid?
SloMo was obviously bad, but Alba-sleazy is so much worse!
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I know its tough David but I’m glad its going to happen faster the slo-mo version was painful, this won’t be extra fast as they’ve got a playbook to go by and don’t want to spook the sheep too early and don’t write off the plebs with the spoiled child effect when their big toys are taken away, I’ve urged anyone that listens to prepare for a siege and to fight, let the bandaid ripping begin.
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Yep, it is written.
Glad to see the end of that smirking prick.
They don’t listen, they hear but don’t listen.
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Speaking of “absurdities”:
Per Voltaire:-
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
Good Luck, everyone!
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Now now David…settle down. We are definitely in for 3 years of Woke-ism, but take a look at the Primary Vote in this election. Coalition and ALP vote went backwards; what is most concerning is the creation of a ” Third Force” of Independents/ Greens… this force will control the outcome of elections (in BOTH houses) for decades to come (unless the lie of AGW is proven). The era of 2-Party dominance in this country is (for now), OVER.
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