Monday Open Thread

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    Philip

    Not much wind power today. Better fire up the coal tonight.

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      Adellad

      I don’t know where you are Philip, but Oz is a rather big place and many parts are quite windy at present.

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        Dennis

        You remind me about a comment posted elsewhere replying to a post from me explaining why wind turbines are unreliable, no wind no generating.

        The reply was that there is always wind blowing somewhere in Australia.

        Apparently somewhere is all that is needed to maintain baseload electricity supply.

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          Sambar

          Chris Bowen also said the same thing about solar, declaring that Australia was a big place and the sun is always shining somewhere.
          He was right of course, the sun is always shining “somewhere” just not in Austraila . Apparently our minister for renewable energy isn’t / wasn’t aware that there is only a 2 hour time difference between east and west coasts, thus rendereing the entire continent dark for 10 hours out of every 24.

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            Philip

            Bowen comes up with some real beauties. There’s another one too, has a similar face to Bowen, made the claim there are no more insects all over your windscreen when you drive at night, concluding nature is dying and “out of balance”. It never occurs to them the possibility those moths were a result of nature being out of balance then.

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              Deano

              Judging the state of our insect numbers by the numbers splattered on your windscreen is about the same rigid scientific methodology Saint Greta uses to gauge CO2 levels: She can smell the CO2 in our air!

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                tonyb

                Apparently 2000 tonnes of insects are being minced every year in Germany alone by wind turbines. They fly at a variety of levels that intersect with the arc of the blades. Many of the insects would migrate or of course breed. The loss in Europe generally must be in the tens of thousands of tonnes.

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            David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

            G’day Sambar,
            Perhaps Bowen actually listened to the lesson where we were taught “The sun never sets on the British Empire”, and interpreted that as meaning “Australia” ?
            Cheers
            Dave B

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            Graeme No.3

            A lawyer, who had a wife and 12 children, needed to move because his rental
            agreement was terminated by the owner who wanted to reoccupy the home.
            But he was having a lot of difficulty finding a new house.
            When he said he had 12 children, no one would rent a home to him because they
            felt that the children would destroy the place.

            He couldn’t say he had no children, because he couldn’t lie …..
            ……we all know lawyers cannot and do not lie. (really)
            So he sent his wife for a walk to the cemetery with 11 of their kids.
            He took the remaining one with him to see rental homes with the real estate agent.
            He loved one of the homes and the price was right — the agent asked:
            “How many children do you have?
            He answered: “Twelve.”
            The agent asked “Where are the others?”
            The lawyer, with his best courtroom sad look answered
            “They’re in the cemetery with their mother..”
            He got the house.

            MORAL: It’s not necessary to lie, one only has to choose the right words…
            and don’t forget, most politicians are unfortunately lawyers.

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          Graeme+P.

          Another way to put it is that somewhere, someone in Australia is getting electricity.

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          Broadie

          Adellad has ‘Thick’ cable wire to sell for the interconnectors. Emphasis on ‘Thick’.

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          Will

          Most of the wind theorized to drive all of those turbines comes from Green, Teal or labour blowhards. Apologies,I could not help it : (

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          Saighdear

          Tell the Heron or Stork, that one, when it is standing somewhere at a pond with no fish

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          Robber

          Victoria overnight, wind delivering just 3.2% of demand, coal 92.3%. And across the entire AEMO grid, wind 10.2%, coal 73.9%.
          Now please explain, Minister Bowen, how 82% of electricity will come from “renewables” by 2030.

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        Philip

        Official figures Adellad. Keep track here. Coal in NSW went from 3K to 7K MW tonight.

        https://www.nem-watch.info/widgets/reneweconomy/

        [Was caught in spam]ED

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        We have been experiencing good wind for the first week of September, but it is still nowhere near enough to cover peak period demand. You can check out how well it has performed at this link. Pretty miserable really, never better than about 19% of peak dispatchable, and generally 10-15%. Better get building the thousands more towers needed to get anywhere near Albo’s 43% by 2030, and gigawatts of battery storage to get us through winter when the wind really does not turn up as well.

        This data will be updated weekly (Thurs-Wed period).

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          Graeme#4

          Interesting info Rowjay. What is the major source of “other combustion “ – gas?

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            It’s quite a long list – in no particular order:

            Black Coal, Steam Sub-Critical
            Black Coal, Steam Super Critical
            Brown Coal, Steam Sub-Critical
            Coal Seam Methane, Open Cycle Gas turbines (OCGT)
            Diesel, Compression Reciprocating Engine
            Diesel, Open Cycle Gas turbines (OCGT)
            Kerosene, Open Cycle Gas turbines (OCGT)
            Natural Gas / Diesel, Open Cycle Gas turbines (OCGT)
            Natural Gas / Fuel Oil, Steam Sub-Critical
            Natural Gas, Open Cycle Gas turbines (OCGT)
            Natural Gas, Combined Cycle Gas Turbine (CCGT)
            Natural Gas, Compression Reciprocating Engine
            Natural Gas, Steam Sub-Critical
            Waste Coal Mine Gas, Spark Ignition Reciprocating Engine

            My interest in compiling this data is to show that at peak usage times, the total output of wind+commercial solar is about equivalent to the output from the two black coal power stations they intend to shut in a year or two. In order to compensate for this loss of firm power generation, they would need to at least double existing wind capacity over the next couple of years. If they replace the coal-fired units with gas-fired ones, then what is the point?

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        yarpos

        “Quite windy” is irrelevant and meaningless, what matters is output.

        A quick look at https://aemo.com.au/energy-systems/electricity/national-electricity-market-nem/data-nem/data-dashboard-nem reveals that right now its not “quite windy” anywhere that matters. A great example of the futility of wind power.

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        Hanrahan

        Easy to check. Wind is meeting 8% of load.

        Where are you in the pecking order after government, hospitals, defence, railways, airports etc?

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      Dennis

      Doesn’t matter, wind turbines are getting cheaper according to the fans (no pun intended).

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        Philip

        Well, I certainly hope so. I keep saying to Greens I’m not at all opposed to these power sources as long as they’re cheaper and as reliable as coal. But I see no evidence of that, quite the opposite of course.

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        No power is also veeeerrry cheap power.

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          Graeme+P.

          I wonder if the greens will use that as a pitch.

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          b.nice

          “No power is also veeeerrry cheap power.”

          Well no, its not.. They still charge connection/network fees even if there is no power.

          So if you calculate cost per unit energy delivered, its infinitely expensive.

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          yarpos

          Our IBM salesman used to have a saying that “all computers wait at the same speed” meaning if you cant get the data in and out fast enough it matters little how processor powerful the computer system is.

          It seem Albanese and Bowen think that spending lots of money and building lots of so called “renewable” stuff means that electricity will be produced. It isn’t obvious to them apparently that this vast investment will at certain times produce effectively zero, and overall will produce much less than the numbers quoted whether its MWs, 1000’s of households or Olympic sized swimming pools.

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        Graeme No.3

        Funny. I was looking at at Green site jusy yesterday and they said that wind turbine costs had gone up from $1000 (US) to $1200 per MW nominal capacity. Apparently demand for lithium for EVs and rare earth prices have risen.

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          David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

          G’day G3,
          You sure of those costs?
          If they’re capital costs, fully erected and all up that would suggest less than $10,000 for a 6MW fan! Could that unit actually be KW?
          Cheers
          Dave B

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            Graeme No.3

            Oops! You are right, although wind farmers would like me to be.
            The latest figure from the USA was (US) $1.3 million per MWh.
            Some European manufacturers were claiming early this year that they were losing money at $1 million per MW, but that was when they could get the steel, the thermoset plastics & glass fibre for the blades etc.) so they would lose even more now, except that they won’t be able to run their factories anyway. Ironic that relying on wind (and Russian gas backup) led to them not being in business.

            Building off-shore has the advantage, I think, of not having to pay land rent (except in the UK where the Crown Agents collect, making money for King Charlie.)

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          Graeme#4

          I believe that’s the nameplate figure. When you compare their costs to other energy sources, the CF differences need to be included, which of course more than doubles their comparison cost.

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          Hanrahan

          Windmills are primarily an engineered structure. Engineering never gets cheaper, including steel and concrete.

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      YallaYPoora Kid

      Wind generation 20% of installed capacity according to AEMO data
      https://anero.id/energy/wind-energy

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        Graeme#4

        Tony’s long-term data indicates an average CF of just over 30% for Aust wind.

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          Hanrahan

          As someone said above, it’s a big country. Numerically most of our mills are in the roaring forties. I doubt the rest of the country does as well. The further north the less the wind.

          That bit of water to our right isn’t called the “Pacific” for nothing. “Bali Hi” conjures images of paradise, not stormy seas.

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      Philip

      King Island. The jewel in the crown. 100% diesel.

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      OldOzzie

      AGL forced to extend unit shutdown at Loy Yang

      Embattled electricity supplier AGL Energy has been forced into another extension of the shutdown of a unit at its Loy Yang A coal power station

      AGL, which had been preparing to restart Unit 2 at the power plant in Victoria in the second half of September, advised that a defect had been found in a part during the testing and final assembly of the unit that will delay the restart for about one month.

      The problem requires the manufacturer, GE, to make a replacement part in Switzerland, said the company, whose biggest shareholder is software billionaire Mike Cannon-Brookes.

      The breakdown of the unit on April 15 has reduced profits at AGL, which is also in the middle of a strategic review after it was forced to scrap a planned demerger in late May after a shareholder revolt. The unit, one of four at the 2210-megawatt generator, was originally expected to return to service on August 1, but that date was revised to the second half of September, and has now been delayed again.

      The outage also contributed to the squeeze in power supply in the National Electricity Market in the early winter, which resulted in the imposition of price caps and the eventual temporary suspension of the wholesale market.

      Milder spring weather and the restart of some other generating units have since helped to moderate wholesale prices, although they remain higher higher than historical levels.

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    yarpos

    Noticed in our travels over the weekend and today.

    Hypocrisy writ large today in a nearby town where we shop each Monday. A Winnebago style camper van parked in town with a very large yellow and black sign in the windscreen “Climate action now!”

    Maybe they buy “carbon” offsets to compensate for the 8mpg touring. I really hope so, because it would be a rare instance of climate alarmists wasting their own money, rather than wasting other peoples money.

    on a very different note (probably only meaningful to Southern VICs)

    We visited No 1 son down Gippsland way on Sunday. The road from Powelltown to Neerim (fast sweeping bends through forest country) 20klms of pretty much continuous Wattles in full bloom (for you foriegners and iconic tree covered in yellow in spring. https://www.australianculture.org/under-the-southern-cross-i-stand/ for a better understanding) They must like all the rain I guess.

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      Philip

      I live in an area full of hippies. They love their fossil fueled homes (vans with beds in the back). Love them. And they plaster every environmental bumper sticker over the back.

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        robert rosicka

        Same here but not hippies more white collar types .

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        yarpos

        a couple of elections ago I took a photo at our local petrol station. A large truck with a mobile billboard for a local Labor candidate. Plastered over the back were “ban fossil fuels” and “save the Great Barrier Reef” stickers, while the driver pumped 90 litres of diesel into it. If only they lived up to their own BS.

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        Wet Mountains

        Does Subaru make a van?

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      Strop

      Very nice drive through there.

      If your destination is further east of Neerim / Warragul, try the road from Noojee to Willow Grove (through Fumina) for a few km of not so fast and not so sweeping bends in forest.

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        Philip

        This all sounds like motorbike country. I used to travel the country looking for such roads.

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          Strop

          And some of it even has a speed limit as high as 100. 😉
          There’s a few bikes head out that way.

          The circuit through Warburton – Marysville (via Woods Point Rd) – Healesville seems popular.

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          PTR

          Was once, not so much any more. Too much traffic, long distances now restricted to 80kph, lots of double lines or single unbroken ones – effectively come under the same regulation. It is unsafe to go fast around bends in Vic. We are left with but one unrestricted decent road, but it is a bit busted up at the moment.

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          yarpos

          The Powelltown Rd is popular with bikes and seems rarely policed. I spent an afternoon there once waiting for an ambulance to give an over enthusiastic old bloke a ride to hospital. An example of Casey Stoners line about “ambition overcoming ability” 🙂 They have added underun protection to the Armco in the twisty bit at the start , before it opens out to the fast stretch.

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    MrGrimNasty

    Here in the UK the ads for plant based meat replacements are truly insulting and manipulative.
    https://youtu.be/lWCFvmBuXcA
    But it hasn’t escaped the comic parodies.
    https://youtu.be/FiCFH4OOcDA

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    DLK

    whoever said free renewable energy does not exist?
    it provides free cooling in winter
    and free warming in summer

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      Philip

      True. I am however a believer in housing design to provide cool in summer and warmth in winter. It’s just nicer living when you get that.

      Not all that energy rating nonsense stuff they carry on with at local council approval, but well placed deciduous trees and windows to bring breezes, things like that.

      I lived in a fibro cottage for 10 years with no insulation or even damp-paper at all, no air con, a small gas heater in winter, and it was great. Always drew the breeze, could always get sun, shade when you needed it. Just good design. But these things are not considered in energy efficient housing nonsense which just means stupid expense and painful regulations.

      I’ve only lived with some air con in the last 4 years of my life. But you need energy here because it’s a terrible design. I’m 1000km further north and burn a few trees each winter to stay warm. And burn air con in summer. Bigger house, better insulation, but much more energy.

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        Fran

        Neighbours with tall evergreens on one’s south side (northern hemsphere) are a real pest. When we moved here, our northern neighbour said we would get on great as long as I did not plant anything tall near his boundary.

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        yarpos

        Nice thoughts but the majority of houses already exist, and have to be optimized after the fact.

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    william x

    This is a headline from the Guardian, posted today. 12/09/2022. reported by Kate Connolly in Berlin – 3h ago

    “Soaring energy costs could threaten future of electric cars, experts warn”

    Well who would have thought that?

    An excerpt from the article

    Quote:

    “Allego, one of Germany’s largest charging station operators, raised its prices at the start of this month from 43 cents a kilowatt hour to 47 cents. Express charging, via a continuous current, has risen from 65 to 70 cents a kilowatt hour. While the fastest, so-called ultra-fast charging, has gone up from 68 cents to 75 cents a kilowatt hour.

    Discount supermarkets, DIY chains and furniture stores which had until recently offered customers free charging while they shopped are now introducing charges.”

    End quote.

    The article states that there has been a drop in uptake of EV’s due to ever increasing charging costs.

    Now how do they solve it?

    Quote:

    “One suggestion that could be relatively swiftly implemented would be to increase the vehicle tax on diesel and petrol cars. Currently electric cars are not eligible for vehicle tax. They are also able to use bus lanes and parking places unavailable to non-electric cars.”

    End Quote.

    Automobile economist Stefan Bratzel (quote):

    “is calling on the German government to ensure that the electricity price remains under the price of petrol, which (he says) is crucial to the future of electric cars.”

    End quote.

    My comment.

    Wow, the clean, green, cheap and reliable renewables need the “expensive” fossil fuel vehicles to be taxed further to stay viable.
    and the Guardian reported it.

    Cest la vie from those that use green ideology over basic engineering facts.

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      Philip

      The audacity of hype – B. Obama.

      That pretty much confirms these people are guided by ideology, wanting to tax other cars more so their cars remain almost viable. Wow. They have no shame.

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      yarpos

      A few more subsidies can make that go away

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      Chad

      william x
      September 12, 2022 at 6:20 pm ·

      “Allego, one of Germany’s largest charging station operators, raised its prices at the start of this month from 43 cents a kilowatt hour to 47 cents. Express charging, via a continuous current, has risen from 65 to 70 cents a kilowatt hour. While the fastest, so-called ultra-fast charging, has gone up from 68 cents to 75 cents a kilowatt hour.

      William, ….just to confirm, ..is that Euro cents , US cents, or Au cents ?

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    John in NZ

    My beloved and I and one of our offspring have been doing our bit to support the North Queensland economy over the last few days. Spent a fabulous day yesterday snorkeling at Saxon reef and then south Hastings reef working on our sunburns. I can confirm the reef is wonderful. I have also done a bit of rainforest and crocodile related tourist destinations.

    I have noticed a abundance of advertisements from a company called JCU. I assumed it was either a law firm or perhaps an accounting multinational.

    Imagine my disappointment once I realized it was James Cook University.

    I have wondered a bit why universities need to put so much money into self promotion. It is probably best I do not state my real feelings about this institution.

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      Philip

      The love of advertising is usually a sign of surplus money. We get a lot of aboriginal community organisations advertising on tv here. I’m not sure what they gain out of it. But plenty of money obviously.

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    Strop

    In a recent CBC article, Adrian Monck of the World Economic Forum (WEF) claimed those who question the activities or allegiances of the WEF or its trustees operating in positions of influence are simply conspiracy theorists; Friends of Science says that’s weak sauce in the face of evidence to the contrary.

    https://www.prweb.com/releases/world_economic_forums_conspiracy_rebuttal_is_weak_sauce_in_the_face_of_evidence_says_friends_of_science_society/prweb18886398.htm

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    John in NZ

    BTW. If you are wanting a holiday, I can recommend Cairns.

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      Hanrahan

      When there, join Cazalys, cheap as chips but you will save that with a meal and a few drinks. Edge Hill Bowling Club also has good Aussie style club meals.

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        John in NZ

        Thanks for the tip Hanrahan. Unfortunately we are on the plane to Brisbane for 5 nights before heading home to the cold again. Our son is working in Brisbane.

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      Broadie

      And Mountain biking on Mount Hutt is good in winter.
      Dear punters do as our NZ friend has done and enjoy North Queensland in the Southern winter. I recommend Paronella Park to those who love the dreams of innovative people. Jose and his family built a dream powered by hydro-electricity in the 1930s.

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      Jay Jade

      Didn’t he play cricket?

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    Climate Heretic

    As if western civilization did not have enough energy problems as it is. Along comes China with this:

    https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/Chinese-molten-salt-reactor-cleared-for-start-up

    In addition you have Indonesia tagging along with this:

    https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2022/01/174503.html

    The above are two examples, other countries are pursuing research into MSR. So what’s the future in the energy sector? It goes something like this:

    a) Fossil fuels will eventually run out say, 100, 150 or even 500 years.
    b) ITER and Tokamak type fusion reactors are failed technology, the following are reasons why:

    i) How do you get the fuel in?
    ii) How do you get the waste out?
    iii) How do you get the energy out?
    iv) How do you do i, ii & iii while the fusion reactor is still running?

    c) Nuclear PWR or LWR have many cons, ie; safety, fuel efficiency and nuclear waste.
    d) Solar and Wind will never supply the power needed for modern society.

    The only answer to the above problems are Molten Salt Reactors (MSR).

    a) They are inherently safe, no water needed and low pressure
    b) Fuel efficiency is 3% for PWR as compared with virtually 100% for MSR
    c) Abundance of fuel is 3 (Thorium) times greater than Uranium
    d) Enough fuel to last 1000s of years. If Thorium breeder reactors then 100s of 1,000 years
    e) Nuclear waste is minimal, 300 years as compared with 10,000+ years
    f) Which can provide society with all the fossil fuels needed /sarc

    It will take time for MSR to come to fruition. They present to society or humanity a paradigm shift in the use of energy. Just like the industrial revolution went from wood to coal. Society will suffer pains as it transitions to the new energy source.

    Regards
    Climate Heretic

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    Don Vickers

    I actually went to the trouble of figuring out the energy output of turbines from a cradle to the grave (just look at the bulldozers digging and huge holes in the ground to bury turbine blades) and found that MOST turbines have a huge shortfall in power produced to power supplied over their lifetime as most only perform at on average 26% of name plated capacity. This included power (in barrels of oil ) for extraction of Iron ore, transport to port, (1100 km for Robe River iron), transport of ore to China, extraction of coking cole, transport to port , transport to China, extraction of brown coal , transport to China. Smelting fabrication and transport back to Aus NOT to mention concrete bases and fibreglass for the blades. Then you have to look at energy consumed to transport them erect them in Australia after clearing 65 Acres of land per turbine (think of the devastation to the black throated finches) Dig a hole big enough to hold 150 tons of concrete. Of course you have to produce and transport to site 150 tons of concrete. The figures are mind boggling and considering the failure rate and maintenance cost and disposal cost after about 15 years of average life per turbine ( before they start to have “component liberation ” double speak for falling apart). We would have been better of to have;
    A, just burned the Barrels of oil
    B, just burned the coking coal
    C, just burned the brown .

    We would not have caused the environmental damage through land clearing,
    and we would not be committing the environmental damage to the bird life,
    and we would not be causing the environmental damage to third world countries where the rare earths and copper are mined by child labour.

    Sorry for the long reply but I actually went to the trouble of doing the calculations and I am mortified by the absolute stupidity of;
    Greenies, Our government and the absolute greed of any corporation or company that would erect these tax money extraction machines.

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      Hanrahan

      Is it really only 15 yrs life? I’d expect that outta my Toyota if I didn’t flog it.

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        David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

        My old Landcruiser was new in 1988, but I’ve only had it for the last 30 years. It’s a bit tired now and I drive the Holden Crewman into town.
        Cheers
        Dave B

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          OldOzzie

          My old Landcruiser was new in 1994 Series 80 GXL 4.5l EFI, but I’ve only had it for the last 28 years and it drives like new – Mobil 1 Synthetic Oil since 10K Service, BP or Shell 98 Premium fuel – stopped pinging on 91, Fluids changed every 2 years – with Full Recaro Interior comfortable Long Distance Tourer – ARB Front and Rear Diff Locks handle High Country and Solo Simpson well

          Just drove 2006 Honda Jazz down to Jindabyne over last weekend – Jindabyne to Seaforth 5 Hrs 14 Mins with stop BP Marulan – use Mobil 1 Oil again, change CVT Fluid every 10K and BP 98 – 5l per 100km both ways – drives like new

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          Richard+Ilfeld

          Yeah, and that’ll call for more legislation for sure, cause it’s not just about selling EV’s. On the order of 220,000,000 cars & light trucks, and 100,000,000 other vehicles on & off the road now in the US IC fleet, with an average useful life remaining of probably 12 years – historically. Facing pressure from fewer IC vehicles coming onstream, I’d bet maintenance habits improve & live expectancy extends considerably.
          Then there are all the new IC vehicles to be added between now and 2030, the magic shut off date, shunted by the market into high utilaztion mission critical uses where EV’s aren’t suitable …. plus the inevitable ‘waiver IC vehicles’ when suitable EV’s can’t be found.
          So 2030 will come, and, as a percentage of the fleet-in-use and/or miles driven, EVs will sorely disappoint the green cultist legislators.
          Cash for Clunkers redux? A car buyback like a gun buyback?

          It’s gonna be pols vs/ mission capability if the EV’s can’t catch up. It’s very common for a small 150 HP 4 place airplane to run for more than 50 years, you just have to take care of them.

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      Kalm Keith

      That’s a lot of work there Don.

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      Chad

      …….Dig a hole big enough to hold 150 tons of concrete. Of course you have to produce and transport to site 150 tons of concrete…….

      Don, you should check that figure, from what i have seen/read , most modern WTGs need a foundation of 400-450 cuMtrs of concrete..so over 1000 tons !

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      KP

      Love it! The stupidity of Govts and their subsidies… Thousands of brand new electric cars abandoned & hidden in the bush as the subsidies to build them were greater than the profit in selling them!

      The whole renewable energy scam in one example! The whole ridiculous failure of Holden and Ford in Aussie, all the way to the submarines and the desalinators…

      ..and people still insist we need a Govt!

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    Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults

    Introduction
    In 2020, prior to COVID-19 vaccine rollout, the Brighton Collaboration created a priority list, endorsed by the World Health Organization, of potential adverse events relevant to COVID-19 vaccines. We adapted the Brighton Collaboration list to evaluate serious adverse events of special interest observed in mRNA COVID-19 vaccine trials.

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    Fuel Filter

    On our 20 year anniversary of 9/11..presented without comment..

    https://coldfury.com/2022/09/12/9-11-islam-and-the-us-what-have-we-learned/

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    John Connor II

    Energy, energy, energy…but has anyone seen what just happened?
    No?
    Heard of a fire sale? 😉

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    Vlad the Impaler

    Some may recall on the thread, “Corals once covered the Australian Desert … “, Simon, at comment 2.1 (11 September 2022 11:21 AM) stated that our emissions of carbon dioxide could lead to that mythical ‘runaway greenhouse effect’. Along with others’ questions, I posed the question of what concentration of carbon dioxide triggers this hypothetical ‘runaway greenhouse effect’; as expected, Simon, for whatever reason, has seemingly refused to answer the question.

    My statement was that I would accept the hypothesis, if (s)he advised what concentration of atmospheric carbon dioxide takes us into this ‘runaway’ scenario. As (s)he has failed to inform the wider audience of this number, I am forced to conclude that (s)he really does not believe that such a scenario is possible on Earth.

    Simon, you have had more than enough time to come up with your answer, and have even made some posts on other threads. Let us know your secret knowledge, and I will take it under advisement.

    Regards,

    Vlad

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    CHRIS

    Assumption is that Simon knows what a “hypothesis” is. As Simon is not a scientist, this is doubtful.

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    TdeF

    There is no Global Warming. It was natural and stopped ten years ago. There is now Global Cooling. There is no fossil fuel CO2 in the air, it all cycles too fast. Humans are irrelevant on this gigantic water covered planet and cannot stop natural cycles. We do not control the weather or the climate. That was a manipulative fantasy to be exposed soon, world wide.

    However the UN and EU and Biden’s America are taking a stance this winter, no return to fossil fuels or even nuclear. Even Janet Yellen says so. Shut it all down. No backsliding. The people have to freeze and starve worldwide. To save the planet.

    Which is just wonderful! The idi*ts have made a principled stand on nonsense. We must fight Climate Change. This is not the Great Reset demanded by the rich, but it is going to be a great political reset.

    People are not going to freeze to save the planet from warming. It makes no sense.

    People are not going to starve to save the planet from starving. There is plenty of food if you are allowed to grow it.

    Protests like Sri Lanka and Holland and Canada are going to swell. The EU/UN and Democrats will be devastated. It will start with the US elections in 8 weeks, the immediate changes by Liz Truss in Britain, the collapse of the entire warming narrative. The Germans are not going to shut another 3 nuclear power stations as planned. The race to restart coal and nuclear has started. And the whining opportunists of the EU/UN/WEF will be derided and driven from power as no one believes them.

    Brexit will be followed by Exits in a mass collapse of trust in the charlatans of Brussels, Frankfurt, Luxemboug and Stasbourg and their pretend democracy which is now a totalitarian state. The only question is which state leaves first in a rapid collapse.

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      TdeF

      You see debate has stopped. Climate Change is being presented fact free as the truth. But it is self evidently not true.
      In Europe, coming is the winter of their discontent. It has started. And in the Northern spring, the world will be a very different place.

      My belief is that the Shengen zone will remain but the old borders will always remain where the language changes. There is no going back from free travel but with electronic transfers, there is no problem with each government keeping their own currency. And the borders will be reinforced to stop the mass invasions happening in Greece, Spain, Italy, Britain and the US. Or bus them all to Brussels and Luxembourg, Paris and Strasboug just like Abbott in Texas. And the mayors of so called ‘sanctuary cities’ like Chicago and Washington and NY are looking hard at their fantasy. Do not send us your poor and downtrodden. We have enough people out of work.

      The Climate is changing fast. The Political Climate. And the pomp and ceremony and symbolism of the spectacle in Britain is showing the world what they have lost in their headlong rush to a world run by invisible unelected bureacrats.

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    Honk R Smith

    How is it going in Oz with the Great P?
    Is V still mandated to live as a free citizen?
    Is a V passport required?
    Or are we pretending the wreckage and fires burning in the rear view mirror will live only in the Land of Nevermind?
    Here in the US, there are hints of a possible outbreak of amnesia among the ruling, chattering, and academic Faucite classes.
    Shocking I know.
    Utterly unpredictable.

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      yarpos

      Most things mandated have gone , still a few mask issue in some places for somethings. Varies by State. Seems like 5% of people still wearing masks generally. A mix of the compromised and the ondoctrinated I guess.

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    Strop

    California passes legislation to stop doctors saying bad things about covid vacs.
    Article in the Epoch Times.

    California’s full-time Legislature has been comprised for years of a Democratic Party super-majority, backed by Democrats in every statewide office. This has emboldened them to enact anything they want, with essentially no checks or balances.

    The recently completed legislative session provided more stunning examples of their excesses. They voted to set wages for fast food workers, permit abortion through the ninth month and fund services for it for out-of-state residents, and implement climate change initiatives requiring a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions of 85 percent. State regulators also recently voted to completely ban gas-powered vehicles by 2035.

    But perhaps most stunningly, the one-party state’s lawmakers voted to suppress all dissent by doctors when it comes to COVID-19. Assembly Bill 2098 effectively creates a “Ministry of Truth” that assures all information disseminated by doctors in the state conforms with the opinion of the ruling party. It directs the state’s medical board to take action against any doctor who spreads misinformation or disinformation about COVID-19. Under the legislation, it is “unprofessional conduct” to spread such information regarding “the nature and risks of the virus; COVID-19 prevention and treatment; and the development, safety, and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines

    more in the article

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/californias-legislature-votes-to-ban-all-covid-19-vaccine-dissent-by-doctors_4717008.html?utm_source=Opinion&utm_campaign=opinion-2022-09-12&utm_medium=email&est=Z3jewJaW8%2BmrBQfNtKgaErkEio8EuON8zaswyhIPqyhIAk4jpIBMOhlg3sKn8v9f

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