Good News — Fracking will start in the UK after ten years of absurd delays over bizarre seismic excuses where the fracking industry was supposed to stop if tremors were larger than 0.5 on the Richter scale which meant it never started. A 0.5 level tremor is so small you’d need a Richter scale to even know it occurred. People usually can’t feel shakes of 2.0 or less, and it’s a logarithmic scale…
Once fracking starts it will be hard to put this genie back in the bottle. Will Australia, Canada and New Zealand be the last three nations on Earth still serious about Net Zero?
As Gaia Fawkes says: Truss Gets Cracking With Fracking
The news comes as The Guardian reports Liz is planning to follow through on her leadership election pledge and lift the ban on fracking as soon as possible, with first licences set to be issued as early as next week. This will no doubt come as welcome relief as energy bills continue to rise during winter. The decision comes despite the paper’s ominous quote from a forthcoming report that forecasting fracking-induced earthquakes “remains a significant challenge”. In August 2019 Caudrilla halted work after recording the UK’s “biggest fracking tremor”. The tremor in question was 1.55ML on the Richter scale, “which it likened to ‘a large bag of shopping dropping to the floor’”…
Green tape — keeping the country cold and poor for no good reason at all:
Liz Truss told to relax regulations to kickstart fracking revolution
The Telegraph
Current rules require drilling to stop if it causes tremors of 0.5 or more on the Richter scale.
Experts say tremors at this level occur naturally and often, at a magnitude so low it is imperceptible to people above ground. The current limit blocks any realistic possibility of exploiting shale resources commercially. Fracking companies want parity with other industries, for example geothermal energy, which is allowed to create earthquakes of higher magnitudes than 0.5. In the US, fracking-related tremors of up to 4-magnitude are allowed.
So much for all the pompous talk of Glasgow. Boris and Carries Energy Plan is gone, thank Vladimir.
Liz Truss to ditch Boris Johnson’s energy plans to focus on driving down cost of household bills
iNews, 14 September 2022
The Government’s Energy Bill is set to be paused or ditched completely as Liz Truss focuses on capping customers’ bills and reforming the UK’s electricity market, iNews has been told.
Jacob Rees-Mogg, the new Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, told officials on Monday that he planned to effectively put on hold the Energy Bill currently going through the House of Lords, multiple sources said.
There’s a lot of energy under Lancashire:
Fracking power could eclipse North Sea gas
Luke Barr, Financial Mail on Sunday
Shale gas extraction – better known as fracking – could eclipse North Sea production within 15 years after Liz Truss lifted a controversial ban. The new Prime Minister has told MPs the fracking moratorium will be removed in areas where local communities support industry plans, paving the way for a boom.
But it said fracking could reduce our future reliance on imports – and by 2040, it could supply 12billion cubic metres of gas, or 15 per cent of current demand. This will coincide with supplies from the North Sea declining to almost nothing by 2050.
But despite the hope here, the blistering bills of the pagan energy policies have barely begun. Millions of people will live colder harder lives because some Weather Fairies badgered people to try to cast spells to stop storms.
A poll of Express.co.uk readers found that 97 percent of Britons are in favour of suspending green levies. If only the United Kingdom was a democracy this would have all been sorted so long ago…
Speaking of energy security, if you thought the Brits left it too late, wait to you hear about the Belgians:
Extraordinary: after two decades of nuclear phaseout policy, a full year of gathering energy crisis, and now half a year of Russian gas warfare, Belgian government officials are asking about delaying the shutdown of a large reactor…due to close in TEN DAYS. https://t.co/Asm0bZ7USq
— Mark Nelson (@energybants) September 14, 2022
h/t To NetZeroWatch who must be feeling pleased today.
UK Flag photo: Rian (Ree) Saunders
About Fracking Time!
Regards
Climate Heretic
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Liz Truss will go down in history as the Tory PM that won the Climate Wars!
More importantly Her Majesty Elizabeth ll has finally united the people of UK. What an amazing spectacle of love, devotion & national pride which has been seriously lacking for the last 50 years.
Her son has an ultra large pair of shoes to fill. Is he able?
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When she sanctions the building of clean coal power stations,maybe…
“Hard coal
Coal stocks and cooling towers at Uniper Ratcliffe power station, Nottingham, UK © Charles Gibson | Dreamstime.com
The UK has identified hard coal resources of 3 910 million tonnes, although total resources could be as large as 187 billion tonnes. There are 33 million tonnes of economically recoverable reserves available at operational and permitted mines, plus a further 344 million tonnes at mines in planning. There are also about 1 000 million tonnes of lignite resources, mainly in Northern Ireland, although no lignite is mined. This significant coal resource base is, however, rendered largely irrelevant by policies designed to drive coal out of the energy mix and a hostile planning environment for surface mines.”
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“Her son has an ultra large pair of shoes to fill. Is he able?”
In a word – no.
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‘about 12 billion cubic mtrs of gas per year by 2040 or about 15% of current consumption’ doesn’t seem very impressive to me. How long before things are turned around ?
I’ll believe it when I see it.
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It starts.
As the cold winds start to blow and counties start to predict the many likely deaths and real suffering and food shortages caused by 34 years of trying to stop fake warming, it will be unstoppable.
All driven by utterly Fake science from the UN/EU, Climate Scientology. Not a stick of truth in man made Global Warming let alone the alleged dangers. And now the cold wind of reality is howling through the halls of power as the Green fantasists face their Armageddon. No one believes them, believes the lies. It’s over.
And the sooner the EU stops threatening Russia the better for the world. Unelected troublemaker, prospective President Ursula Van Leyen just threatened to ‘absorb’ Ukraine, Georgia, Moldava into the EU. Europe in the Caucasus? Near Iran?
The ongoing and expanding EU/US direct military threat to Russia on all sides is behind the ongoing war in Ukraine. But almost perversely the predictable cutoff of Russian gas and oil is exactly what was needed to save Britain and the countries from the monster created. And Ukraine. And Biden should be impeached for his role in it, as he and his son Hunter openly did exactly what Trump didn’t do. And boasted about it.
The Common Market was a great success, the European Community and the Schengen zone as well. But a single currency is not needed in the modern world as cash vanishes, passports can be electronic and every one agrees real borders are necessary for security and to prevent invasion. But the European Union as a political entity wants its own army and openly threatens to attack Russia which is exactly why two world wars were fought. It was Germany who put Lenin on a train to St. Petersburg to start a civil war and destroy Russia. That’s three recent German wars with Russia and then the insane Crimean war by France and Britain and of course Napoleon. The Russians can hardly forget. Everyone still wants what Russia has. Who cares about the Russians?
So almost perversely, a great deal of good will result from the proxy civil war in Ukraine and Russia’s very predictable reaction to the threat of attack on all sides, as now confirmed so provocatively by Von Leyen. Georgia and Moldava now! Are Azerbaijan and Armenia next?
The UK and US must withdraw to allow peace to break out and the gas to flow especially to Ukraine and Hungary and Poland and the critical wheat exports. And the EU cannot continue to use Ukraine and Russian lives to distract from the entirely artificial energy and coming food crisis at home. Perhaps a billion people are now expected starve in the fall without Russian and Ukrainian wheat. It’s a world crisis as seen in Sri Lanka. All engineered by bureaucrats.
Food, energy, Ukraine are manufactured crises and tens of thousands of people are dying and will continue to die from EU and UN expansionism and their deadly cult of Climate Change. The current attack on Dutch farmers has the country in Uproar. Benign organizations created to promote trade and peace and to prevent another war are really hell bent on power. And the utterly fake and now disastrous climate control fantasy has been their weapon of choice. Starvation, energy, war and the Wuhan Flu. Four horsemen.
People around the world no longer trust their own governments, not after lockdowns and attacks on their own people, as in Canada under Trudeau, the US under Biden and Daniel Andrews in Victoria. Hopefully a turning point in politics has been reached.
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“many likely deaths and real suffering”
After COVID, hard to believe this is their primary concern.
COVID was about ultimate power.
Retreat from the Green Energy fiasco is about retaining power.
And they were so close to grasping the Ring.
Winter is coming and now the precious could slip away.
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Yes, J.R.R.Tolkien wrote an allegorical and memorial story of WW1 and his best friends who died fighting the unspeakable evil rising in the East. And the EU/UN and Democrats pretend it’s Russia. It’s not and it never was.
And the first copies of the Lord of the Rings rolled off the presses in the middle of WWII. Once again it was Russia which was hammered, for the fifth time.
As Russia says, Fascism is alive and well and the fight continues against an unholy alliance of big business and government dictatorship, which is the definition of Fascism. COVID was meant to weaken the structure, weaken the will of the people, inure them to government overreach. We will see. Once again it is the UK resurgent under a new leader. Green Boris has gone but he achieved BREXIT which in turn will change the history of Europe.
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Your private definition of Fascism is not widely shared. But, in a point for you, it fits Russia admirably.
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Not my experience.
Fascism was adopted first by Mussolini as a version of Socialism with a twist. Not taking over the means of production, but leaving that to the rich. Hitler’s National Socialists adopted it and he was backed in every way by the world’s biggest company, Krupp and the Krupp family. He was a favorite of Mrs Krupp. In this totalitarian Fascism differs from totalitarian communism only in partnership with the rich. This is happening with Silicon Valley today. Otherwise there is no difference between Communism and Fascism. Deadly enemies, they are both violently anti democratic.
And extreme Nationalism is a motivator for all sides of politics. And even racism is today promoted as anti racism just as the violent black shirts promote themselves as Anti Fa. Post Modernism exploits ancient injustice to divide and conquer. It’s all false flag politics.
Plus every dictatorship pretends to be democratic. They even have elections in China. 75% of the countries in the UN are military dictatorships and most of these would be better described as fascist. There is always a cabal who own everything. No dictator is poor.
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I’ll second that and include China.
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“Fascism is alive and well and the fight continues against an unholy alliance of big business and government dictatorship, which is the definition of Fascism”
Nope – that’s Corporatism, tho’ not that far remove. Musso noted that his government was Corporatist, not Fascist.
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Lord of the Rings and Games of Thrones in one quote – very impressive work there Honk.
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Presented without comment….
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/09/16/panicked-germany-seizes-russian-energy-company-rosneft-uses-national-trusteeship-to-control-oil-refinery-the-current-economic-outlook-of-europe-full-state-control-of-critical-energy-production/
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And another,….
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/09/16/the-great-economic-pretending-yet-again-meets-main-street-reality/
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There is a convenient Richter Scale comparison calculator at
https://earthquake.usgs.gov/education/calculator.php
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Pedantically, it’s a moment magnitude scale calculator. But as the Richter (aka local magnitude) scale is similarly logarithmic, the calculator results are probably still valid for comparing earthquake values. Almost certainly, when you see an earthquake magnitude reported, it will be moment magnitude, not Richter as most of the media assume.
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These days I’m just happy that people know there is some sort of scale for earthquakes, whether they use the right name or not.
It feels like soon we will be back to thinking earthquakes are caused by underground gods having a fight, or something.
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In the stupid country, Australia, there was even a constitutional amendment in Victoria’s state constitution that bans fracking.
Can you believe that? Australia must be unique in the stupidity stakes for doing something like that.
https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/enshrining-victorias-ban-fracking-forever
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It’s not stupid. Victoria’s great strength in manufacturing was cheap energy, now gone.
It’s the enemy within, Daniel Andrews and his Chinese friends. Today he is killing tourism by banning rock climbing. Banning grazing in the high country. He even bought a timber mill with public money, a public service timber mill?
And next week he stops all of Victoria with a holiday for a football game on the following day. With Albanese’s holiday, all surgery will stop for two days! The cumulative effect of all this is crippling people’s lives.
Meanwhile his decade and a half in charge of Ambulances has left the service in a parlous state. People are dying. And even the firefighters want out.
However Andrews spends big on media control and hires any journalist who criticizes him. So with the exception of the hated Murdoch papers, he has shut down the press. The worst Premier ever and an absolute dictator, Andrews is likely to be reelected and never prosecuted for his many crimes. Red shirts, aged care, lockdowns, BLM march, the list is endless.
And his opposition never get any air time. We Victorians live in a communist police state where you can be arrested at home, without warrant, put in handcuffs for just posting on Facebook.
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Not that uncommon for the VIC govt to buy up what they dont like. In the mod 2000s the govt bought a shooting range complex in Thomastown. It had a gun shop, range and also a CNC machining capability to make gun parts for competition handguns (I think the last one was the one that disturbed them). Thye bought the business and compensated the owner to retire and stay out of the gun business for life. Many millions apparently buy the time the deal was done, so the rumors went.
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Remember David that the ALP are socialists with communist leanings. None of their representatives have ever owned a business nor have they employed anyone. The bosses have all the money so they think and should just hand it over the downtrodden worker. You know those who work a maximum of 38 hrs per week and about 210 days a year. They even get paid to go on holidays. As for Green tape that is a method by which a good communist can strangle a modern economy and make it so much easier for their bosses in the CCP to take over.
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The other states need to ban the sale of their own gas to DD, else he won’t learn and neither will the fools that voted him into office.
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I haven’t yet seen signs that people understand that by running up debt one state can break the nation.
With Victoria and Queensland on the road to ruin the whole national economy will suffer as a result.
Can Liz Truss by example save us?
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That’s a great line Ted. … one state can break the nation.
I don’t think that can happen in the US, even when the largest state goes off the rails. But our states are not as independent and our two biggest states are just so dominant.
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With the hold of fracking, it’s gonna take some time to ramp up drilling, etc.
And how many men are still in the UK that know how to do this? And the funding for drilling, etc?
Mebbie there may be some of my countrymen ready to flee Biden’s insane policies an get some jobs. Remember Those fires Saddem lit in the oil fields? Guess who put them out? American oil workers, Red Adair’s men.
Sounds good to me …
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Seriously? how much gas do you think VIC gets from interstate?
Andrews is paying people to get of gas. He doesnt want to use VICs let alone anyone elses
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I know a bloke who drives from Brisbane to Melbourne regularly to fill eight tonnes worth of gas bottles.
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If the UK treated finding more gas as an emergency, which of course it is, because solar and wind are worse than useless, how fast could they connect a new gas supply if they found a worthwhile deposit?
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The fracking companies have said they could start to extract gas in six months although that seems optimistic to me.
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I don’t think it’s too optimistic. I have actually begun to earn royalties within a few months of spudding a well.
let the petroleum industry loose and you will be amazed how fast they can operate. Now, having said that, cumulative production to do much good may take a while. There is a big deficit to fill. How many rigs and how much fracking equipment is avaiable?
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Some of the UK companies are talking of having some supply in January if they get approval near immediately. I think the offer was for 177,000 houses worth which is not a lot in a nation that has 28 million households, but it’s not nothing either.
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I must double check the company but our local independent/ green MP who campaigned strongly on climate action owns shares in a UK company that specialises in Fracking and oil search . And if I read the register correctly the shares were sold then bought back again .
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Sold shares again in February of this year in this company who don’t or didn’t have a licence to Frack just drill for natural gas and coal methane .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IGas_Energy
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If she/he sold in February at 20 quid, then she/he missed the run up to 95 quid.
Greenies have no ideaabout how to make money.
That’s why they need yours and other peoples.
https://www.londonstockexchange.com/turquoise-stock/E:IGASL
Wait a tick for the chart to load.
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There’s a lot of infrastructure behind drilling and completing oil/gas wells, that’s where the delays will be, aside from all the red tape.
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Having voted to leave i am certainly no fan of the EU.
However what caused the war was Russia invading Ukraine. No other reason. The EU has never threatened to attack Russia and as the UK is not in Ukraine it can not withdraw frm it.
We seem to be forgetting that Russia invaded Georgia and Crimea in 2014 . That Putin has specifically said in speeches and in writing that he intends to reabsorb the former republics and establish the borders of Peter the great has nothing to do with imagined European agression. The EU doesn’t even have an army!.
As for Biden, the man is an idiot but please read guilianis book in which he confirms that the guy has not meddled in Ukraine despite Giuliani at his own admittance overturning every stone to find evidence.
We need to stop this notion that Russia is an innocent party. They are not. Putin is a thuggish criminal with ambitions to reestablish the former empire.
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Can certainly see Vlad’s thuggishness.
The Devil I know.
It’s the obscure ‘compassionate’ thugs behind the ‘Climate Catastrophe’ and ‘Virus Mania’ that scare me more.
Klaus/Justin/Fauci/Minister of the Red Gates … or Vlad?
Which is the rock and which is the hard place?
One declared war on Ukraine.
The other has pretty much declared war on me.
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This is not a new war. The civil war has been real for a decade in Ukraine. Malaysian Flight 17 saved money and flew over a war zone in 2016 with total loss of life.
The Russian people in the Donbas and Crimea wanted out. 10,000 people had died from shelling. These are areas are entirely Russian. Almost no one speaks Ukrainian. Even Zelensky speaks poor Ukranian. His first language is Russian.
At the time of the Crimean war, Crimea was the heart of Russia and the home of their naval fleet. It was a punitive war by France and England who wanted to stop the Russian fleet. It was totally unjustified. To quote the UK National Army Museum “Britain and France both wanted to prop up the ailing Ottoman Empire and resist Russian expansionism in the Near East.” French and British expansionism however was in full swing.
And for Crimea, anyone over 70 was born in Russia, not Ukraine. The Crimea was gifted to Ukraine by Kruschev without explanation.
The endless attempts by Britain, France, Germany, China, Japan and America to break up Russia is ongoing. And the Russians know it. Gold, diamonds, oil and gas. Who cares about the Russians?
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And as for propping up the ailing Ottoman Empire, it was Britain behind the Greek war on Turkey and the siege of Istanbul in 1919 after the breakup of the Ottoman empire. And Britain and France carved it up.
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Funny that. If not the Ottoman empire which one do you prefer? Civilized or uncivilized?
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None of which gets away from the fact that Russia attacked Ukraine and has openly stated it intends to recreate its old empire. The EU does not have the clout or desire to attack Russia but remembers that much of the eastern EU was part of the soviet empire which Putin wants to recreate.
Also let us not forget tat Russia was in league with hitler for two years and started carving up Europe. So the belligerence is in one direction and will continue as Putin eyes up moldova, Poland and Georgia.
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Much of the Eastern EU was in fact German territory in 1943 and allied to Germany plus most of European Russia.
Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria were staunch, even enthusiastic early allies of Hitler and it was from there the Wehrmacht were able to take Greece so easily and attack Kiev. The terrible war in Budapest was still going when Germany surrended, which kept the panzers out of Germany.
Yes Stalin was a monster but also he bought time to prepare and it is important to remember that Poland prior to WW1 was Russian, not that the Polish wanted the Russians back or the Lithuanians. Poland spent most of the last 1,000 years under foreign rule.
Slowly though Russia withdrew after WW2 and the Eastern states were given their independence, except for isolated Kaliningrad, the home of the much hated Prussians and the former Teutonic knights who formed the backbone of the Germany military. To the Russians, the Eastern states once again formed a barrier against endless German and French aggression. It had been bad enough for 400 years with the Mongols Khans from the East.
The Russians still remember the 20 million they lost in WWII alone, 250,000 in the final battle in Berlin. That’s nearly as many in one battle as the US lost in the whole war! So they felt they had just cause and reason to suspect their alleged allies. Even Winston Churchill then advocated a war against Russia. But the world had had enough of war.
And that continues today with the old foes, Germany France and UK in league called the European Union, no longer an economic union but with calls for a European Army to battle who exactly?
It would be nice if it was a simple as a battle over the keys to Jerusalem or Climate Change, but there are always ambitious men and greedy men. And Russians have good reason to feel the world is plotting against them. And it’s true.
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I am not sure that territory brutally conquered by Germany can be called ‘allied’ to that country. Russia had a substantial empire prior to and after the war. Putin has said he wants to recreate it. Neither the EU or the UK has the desire or military power to attempt to attack Russia. It is a one way street. Kaliningrad remains an interesting one due to its geographical location. Geographical borders change. Ukraine was an independent country with its security guaranteed by Russia after 1991. The Baltic states and Moldova all fear Russian expansionism.
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Russia’s takeover of Crimea was very popular – as evidenced by a resounding vote to leave Ukraine for the Federation. Ukraine, EU and US are are playing a deadly game with Russia and France and Germany can see this. Russia’s withdrawal from the north before winter is sensible as the south is and was the main objective.
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tonyb,
have you heard of the book “Montaillou-The Promised Land of Error” by Le Roy Ladurie?
A remote village of surviving Cathar heretics was discovered by the Church, I think about 1302.
Their examination is chronicled in the book.
One thing I learned is that the only real theology of Catharism was contempt for the abuses of the Church.
Biden accuses ‘MAGA extremists’ of worshipping the Orange Man, when in fact they just share contempt for Washington Deep State corruption and consider it deplorable
Perhaps Pope Biden has found a Deep State Simon of Montfort.
And God will do the sorting.
This historical parallel carries more weight with me than Russia reestablishing control of Ukraine.
So some have the fortune of double heresy.
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I spent a fair bit of time in South France around Carcassonne where many remnant ruins of the last Cathars still stand. Cruel times.
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I have read several of Laduries book. Pride of place and staring at me as I write this is ‘Times of Feast times of Famine’ about climate change through the centuries through the prism of glacier and vineyard records. None of which gets away from the basic fact that Russia invaded Ukraine and not the other way round.
Nor that the Donbas splits by age with many of the older generation looking east and very many of the younger generation looking towards Europe and the West. The vote in Crimea referenced above fitted none of the criteria for a proper vote.
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Cant really buy into this goodies and baddies , black/white view of the conflict. Eu and NATO are in it up to their necks, Zelensky is reaping what he has sown. Everyone decided to walk away from the MINSK Accords and here we are. Game players dealing with people who dont play games.
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Tony,
TDeF is correct . Any search will confirm . Lots of people are dying to make the arms dealers and manufacturers rich . The swamp keeps getting richer . The end game is in play and nobody wins in the end.
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For more on Tonyb’s thesis, “The Russian World” is a good starting point.
The Russian Orthodox leader, Patriarch Kirill, defines Russki Mir as a “special civilization which needs to be preserved”. He has become the main promoter of this nationalist idea.
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While the West goes woke , Russia stands for a strong national order. Regrettable though some of its actions.
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Just don’t ask …. JUST DON’T ASK! – why did it take so long? and do we want to spend
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Meanwhile
“Blackout News Friday: Germany, Europe Teeter on The Economic Brink as Energy Crisis Intensifies”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/09/16/blackout-news-friday-germany-europe-teeter-on-the-economic-brink-as-energy-crisis-intensifies/
And
“Panicked Germany Seizes Russian Energy Company Rosneft, Uses National Trusteeship to Control Oil Refinery – The Current Economic Outlook of Europe, Full State Control of Critical Energy Production
September 16, 2022 | sundance | 25 Comments”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/09/16/panicked-germany-seizes-russian-energy-company-rosneft-uses-national-trusteeship-to-control-oil-refinery-the-current-economic-outlook-of-europe-full-state-control-of-critical-energy-production/
Hmmm! “Supplied 90% of Berlin’s fuel” – wonder where the raw material comes from?
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If this UK move is true it’s the best news we’ve heard for decades, but just a pity it has taken this long.
Of course the TOXIC, POLLUTING S & W disasters are worse than NOTHING and will wreck every energy grid because they are a disastrous infestation and an endless cost of TRILLIONs $ forever for ZIP.
But will Aussies also wake up before it’s too late? Meanwhile I’ll believe it when I see it.
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So let’s now see how all of this pans out. A good fracking start for a start.
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Who would have thought that Britain may become energy self-sufficient.
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Of course, tremors and quakes never happened before fracking, did they?
http://www.quakes.bgs.ac.uk/earthquakes/recent_uk_events.html
https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/?extent=-64.93515,-314.9535&extent=79.36265,-34.40662&magnitude=all&settings=true
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Every other day on average.They keep a separate list for those suspected to be caused by human activity in last 60 days – currently blank!
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AGAIN just to support Dr Rosling’s OPTIMISTIC forecast here’s another accurate UN data source showing the incredible growth in population( but also massive increase in HEALTH, WEALTH not shown) from 1800 to 2022 and then to 2100.
And in 2022 over 80% of the World’s energy is still generated by fossil fuels. So how long before we really WAKE UP?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/997040/world-population-by-continent-1950-2020/
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Recent history tells us that, given the opportunity, affluent societies do not breed.
And the transition will not be gradual. We are seeing it in Australia right now, with the critical need for immigration.
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It appears they left out “Climate Change”.
Australia wins the woke award by a country mile:
Chris Bowen – Minister for Climate Change and Energy
What is the role of a Minister responsible for Climate Change?
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As I commented on a previous thread, I fail to see how Bowen can possibly be minister for both ‘Climate Change’ and Energy – surely they cancel each other out?
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Both you guys also need to remember Angus Taylor had a very similar tile in the LNP government. His title was Minister for Energy and Emission Reductions. Both sides of politics are equally stupid when it comes to “climate change”.
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It’s the uniparty, Ross.
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The full closure of the Liddell Power Station will take place in April 2023. It will be the first of AGL’s thermal generation sites to be converted into an integrated, low-carbon industrial energy hub, which will support energy reliability and regional economic development.1 Apr 2022.
So how do we here in Albo and Bowen land keep the lights on after April 2023?
Australia is heading down the exact same path as England and the EU. Buy a power generator now before they sell out. How dumb and dumber are the Western government’s, pushing us into energy poverty on purpose.
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Well, let’s see how Albo and Bowen deal with this one. Not long to go now and I can’t wait to see who blinks first before the SHTF……Which it will do if no one blinks………..
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The ideology is so well embedded that their only care is that April 2023 is too late. It was supposed to close in 2022 but only one unit was shut down. As we know, shutting that unit had no impact whatsoever. The lights stayed on in Canberra and electricity prices came down because Canberra is 100% “renewable”.
Anyone who accepts a title of Minister for Climate Change and Energy has to be as thick as two bricks. Nothing but mud between the ears. This will be a great joke in years to come. Who was The Australian Federal Minister for Climate Change and Energy? People will have difficulty holding a straight face when they ask that.
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More like Climate change and lack of energy.
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The new Federal Government has a long list of portfolios, even an Assistant Minister for THE Republic.
What republic?
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It is the primary responsibility of State governments to provide reliable electricity supply.
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Here’s the CONCLUSIVE PROOF that we’re not facing an EXISTENTIAL THREAT and that’s by sourcing the data for Agriculture workers since 1800 (but most earlier years not available) and up to 2019.
In 1800 most of the world’s population worked on the land, but today it’s about 27% and even China about 25%.
But wealthy OECD countries’ Agriculture workers in 2019 range from 1% for UK and 1.3% for USA, Aussies 2.56% etc.
NOTE that Agriculture workers also includes HUNTING, FORESTRY and FISHING.
So where is their CLIMATE CRISIS OR EMERGENCY or EXISTENTIAL THREAT?
Of course only a delusional left wing loony would BELIEVE the lying pollies, MSM, so called scientists etc.
See the graph and some countries I’ve selected at the Our World in Data link. The graph is down the page.
https://ourworldindata.org/employment-in-agriculture
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I’m sorry here’s another attempt at copying that OWI DATA graph.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-the-labor-force-employed-in-agriculture?tab=chart&time=1300..latest&country=ITA~FRA~NLD~POL~GBR~AUS~CHN~USA~OWID_WRL
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AGAIN I’m sorry, but I’m far too old to learn the proper computer skills to link to that graph.
An even older mate once told me that what I know about computers could be written in triplicate on the head of a pin. And I think he’s right.
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Neville, computers aren’t here to make our lives simpler, that’s for sure. I’m reasonably technical, but I agree with my non-technical brother that some of the most depressing sentences start with the words “Simply log in to our portal and …”. You just know you’re going to be pulling your hair out before you’re done.
Anyhow, to post your ourworldindata.org handiwork, customise the graph as you want, then in the lower right of the graph to the right of “DOWNLOAD” there’s an icon to create a link. Click on that and select “Copy link”, and that puts something in your paste buffer that you can post into a forum. So I’ve added Australia and New Zealand to create this link. It’ll either work or I’ve just made a fool of myself (definitely not for the first time).
Another tip is to click “Preview” and try the link there before posting your comment.
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Link works if you paste the entire link in the web address:
This website breaks the link at the stops:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-the-labor-force-employed-in-agriculture?tab=chart&time=1300..latest&country=ITA~FRA~NLD~POL~GBR~AUS~CHN~USA~OWID_WRL
[Sorry I can’t edit this is any way to fix that 🙁 – Jo]
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Try this using the “link” function on the menu bar:
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Didn’t like it?? Another try:
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Loving the use of the word could instead of will.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/zac-goldsmith-sacked-environment-minister-073457256.html
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Looking for a proper energy source like gas is commendable, of course.
But I don’t think this breaks the unreliable energy scam.
They will keep “investing” in unreliables for the sole benefit of the Elites and at huge expense to the regular people and huge cost to Western Civilisation itself.
This is a good first step but something much better needs to be done to remove all subsidies, direct or otherwise, including forced purchase arrangements (as in Australia) of unreliable energy.
If unreliables are as cheap and attractive as the Left claim, let them buy unreliables exclusively and cheaper than coal, gas, nuclear or real hydro (not SH2).
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It will be interesting to see how this plays out with the extreme activist groups over there. On the one hand you have the caring conservatives, looking to increase energy production to minimise a mass death and energy poverty situation and other the other side you have the pro-death activist camp, wanting to turn of the energy tap completely and cheer on the outcome.
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I’d reckon that “the other side” will be mostly in the group “wanting to cheer on the outcome” and not in the “volunteer group”
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No one supports the green agenda once it hits the hip pocket. The only reason there are green activists is because there is money in it.
Imagine green activists preventing fracking when people are dying in dark, cold homes. Necessity always prevails. Green activism is an issue for the wealthy. Spoilt brats like Greta Thunberg who has never done anything useful in their miserable life.
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I disagree here. The green activists will continue this fight when people are starving and dropping dead, and they will be blaming “not enough RE” as the cause of the problem. They want this outcome because it will allow their great reset to Marxism.
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Anti fracking point of view.
‘The UK did have a lot of onshore shale oil and gas, a long time ago. But because the country has the wrong geological history, that oil and gas has long gone, flowed out along the abundant faults and fractures. American and Canadian geology is much simpler, and that’s why their shale gas is still there.’ (The Conversation)
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Did “the other side” get a say too?
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Very unlikely.
The Left have zero tolerance of, and are terrified of alternative opinions. Hence them constantly censoring all their platforms, including The Conversation.
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The rest of the article is tripe with green sauce.
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There’s a hell of a lot of eco-green zealots in the UK. Did anyone see the protest group who undermined a road with a tunnel in protest against oil imports? The local authorities basically just stood aside and did nothing, yet a whole town was effectively shut down because the affected road was a main thoroughfare. Those fracking sites will have to employ some gold standard security to keep those nutters out.
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All eco zealots are getting an income from somewhere. Once those sources of income dry up then the zealotry will die a natural death.
It has been highly fashionable to be an eco zealot. It has been a source of high reward for some. But necessity will always override fantasies.
It will not take long for the tide to swing once people are really hurting.
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“Those fracking sites will have to employ some gold standard security to keep those nutters out.”
Remember what can be achieved by farmers with “turd hearses”
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Fracking is obviously a genuine priority, but what about the others?
Under Liz Truss, it’s good to see the British Ministry of Health has it’s priorities right.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/british-health-ministry-calls-for-end-to-oxford-commas-20220916-p5biqm.html
British health ministry calls for end to Oxford commas
By Euan Ward September 16, 2022
SEE LINK FOR REST
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Bit of payback for them pouring gasoline on the pandemic and the war in Ukraine. Those two things have cost them their beloved green policies. Quite poetic really.
But now we are faced with a few hot days in summer and a few less frosts in winter. Dear oh dear. Or as they would have it, a sixth mass extinction of species.
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A mass extinction of frosts then?
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There was frost on the grass this morning here in the northern Lakes area of Cumbria.
There were frosts several mornings running where we live in Nth Central Vic before I came away.
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Imagine if the developed nations ignored the UN and EU and demanded more gas, coal, uranium and others from the Commonwealth of Australia and used the same blackmail tactics threatening trade if ignored.
It works for unelected UN officials.
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Here is a list of earthquakes that may have affected/been sensed by people living in the British Isles in 2022 without fracking:
https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/earthquakes/uk/archive/2022.html
Need anymore be said?
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🙂 The ban on fracking didn’t do much to stop our earthquake in Victoria a year ago!
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Much jubilation in the Cuadrilla camp:
Note that it only applies to England, not Scotland, Wales nor Northern Ireland. Why would that be? It seems that in devolved Britain, the regions can choose for themselves whether or not to allow fracking, despite what central government may decide.
Anyway, there’s the Climate Change Act that obliges present and future governments to meet Net Zero within the next 28 years. As it’s the law, we can expect many legal challenges to any attempt to restart fracking. What with the NIMBYism and eco-fanatics adding to the hostility, Cuadrilla is facing an uphill battle that it could easily lose.
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If activists genuinely cared for the environment they would be much happier with the discrete infrastructure for fracking than that for the blighted wind turbines. I had cause to visit Workington yesterday and the number of bird- murd3r turbines is incredible; eyesores all round.
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The thing I worry about with fracking is the ‘proprietary’ chemicals that they pour into the ground to assist in cracking the rock. It’s not just water. I think they might be making money 2 ways: Disposing of tons of toxic waste that can potentially end up in aquifers, and then via the shale-oil that they pump out.
Somebody should be testing the ground water everywhere that they are doing fracking.
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Your fears may have been stoked by the anti-fracking crowd. Different countries have different rules, but it’s not a mad free-for-all.
See this science article:
A review of the issues and treatment options for wastewater from shale gas extraction by hydraulic fracturing
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0016236116303660
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[…] NetZero takes a hit in the UK — Fracking is on and “could eclipse North Sea Gas” […]
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Jo,
neither of us are geologists so I am going to propose what sounds to me to be plausible.
Fracking potentially affects the structure of the earth’s crust and the risk of damage varies from place to place but might not be known (so could be high). Small changes in seismic activity (e.g. 0.5 and not detectable by human senses) might prewarn of something bigger. The “so small” argument doesn’t work – it is actually the fact that it is small that makes it workable and stops disaster. Cancer starts as a single cell – such as detected in a pap smear – though you could wait for a tumour to develop to detect it.
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