Affected by high winds?
Whatever the question, the excuse is always “climate change” and the answer is always Wind and Solar.
Are you an Energy Minister? Did you stop drilling for gas, let teenage girls design your national grid, and rely on a hostile power to supply your fuel? Stupid you, but that’s OK, because if your reliable grid is failing, it’s not your fault, it’s “climate change”. See how this works? It’s not that you vandalized a highly engineered system with frivolous vanity projects but that you didn’t do enough of them.
Heatwaves are apparently wrecking coal plants now. That extra one degree outdoors makes all the difference to a turbine that runs 24 hours a day at 540 degrees C. If only we’d known? Or maybe we did. In 1962 we could build coal plants in Arizona that are still running, and gas plants (in 1959) in Yuma County where the average maximum is 45C (115F) for three months of the year.
Seems the engineers had hot weather sorted out 60 years ago.
The lamest excuse for grid failure yet
Is it gas-lighting, or just stupid?
How the climate crisis is threatening power supply stability
Paul Brown at The Guardian
Extreme weather events – high winds, heatwaves, freezing rain, and loss of glaciers and snow pack mean once reliable sources of power can fail.
It’s not that socialist policies to drive out reliable power have succeeded and 50 year old equipment is being neglected and not replaced. No…
Clearly children are not doing enough tours of nuclear plants and coal turbines. They grow up to be journalists for The Guardian that think rainy, windy days can slow these industrial giants down.
The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) says 87% of global electricity comes from nuclear, hydro and thermal fossil fuel plants that rely on water for cooling, and up to a third of these are in high water stress areas. Predicting droughts, stream flows and water availability is therefore vital for maintaining supply.
For solar and wind, where water is less of an issue, predicting wind strength and sunshine hours is key. In countries with highly variable weather, such as the UK, this is still a work in progress, although improving all the time. Partly, these problems can be mitigated by giant batteries and well-tried technologies, such as pump storage, where water is pumped back uphill at night for hydro-power production at peak times.
Batteries? Someone needs to tell the petals at The Guardian that extreme heat can drastically shorten the life of batteries and solar panels perform worse as the temperature rises.
REFERENCES
[1] Anagnostopoulos, G. G., D. Koutsoyiannis, A. Christofides, A. Efstratiadis, and N. Mamassis, (2010). A comparison of local and aggregated climate model outputs with observed data’, Hydrological Sciences Journal, 55: 7, 1094 — 1110 [PDF]
[2] Koutsoyiannis, D., Efstratiadis, A., Mamassis, N. & Christofides, A.(2008) On the credibility of climate predictions. Hydrol. Sci. J. 53(4), 671–684. changes [PDF]
[3] Paltridge, G., Arking, A., Pook, M., 2009. Trends in middle- and upper-level tropospheric humidity from NCEP reanalysis data. Theoretical and Applied Climatology, Volume 98, Numbers 3-4, pp. 351-35). [PDF]
[4] Sheffield, Wood & Roderick (2012) Little change in global drought over the past 60 years, Letter Nature, vol 491, 437
The headline is certainly the lamest I have seen amongst thousands of childish, crazy excuses to kill off our energy sector. The climate change mob have almost reached the zenith of stupidity with this fiasco. The worst part is we know they are lying, they know we know they are lying but they don’t care. My mantra is and always has been; “follow the money.”
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Chris Bowen’s hastily convened summit to ‘reduce energy costs’claims to have ‘everything on the table.’
That literally means every option must be considered.
I wonder if ‘everything on the table’ includes the only thing that might work in the short term – more coal fired grid capacity!
You can bet that with Bowen in charge that one fell off the table very quickly.
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Aussie media supports woke alarmists and greenies meme that coal is dead. The rest of the world loves it. Prices still up 200%.
I think the pollies love the income on the balance sheet, just like iron ore.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/once-again-australia-is-about-to-be-saved-from-global-recession/news-story/592735efc87efa26aa6a03050f07ef72
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how about remove all renewable subsidies immediately, tyhat should reduce electricity bills for everyone buy about……$275
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My mantra is and always has been; “follow the money.”
Mine has been “never attribute to malevolence that which is readily explained by stupidity”.
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Damon,
“readily explained”
But, unhappily, in many cases it looks like malevolence wouldn’t do anything one whit different.
Little Sunak, and Boris n Mrs. May before him, and fracking ban.
Biden and fuel costs, XL, oil leases, etc.
Poor Chavez with PDVSA given to generals – not folk who can run a refinery.
Merkel, and offering Germany’s throat to the [Poisoner] Wolf with the cheap gas.
Etc.
If a fair history ever gets written . . . . .
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Aussie media supports woke alarmists and greenies meme that coal is dead. The rest of the world loves it. Prices still up 200%.
I think the pollies love the income on the balance sheet, just like iron ore.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/once-again-australia-is-about-to-be-saved-from-global-recession/news-story/592735efc87efa26aa6a03050f07ef72
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How many Chinese made wind turbines and solar panels will the Labor government need to buy to end droughts and floods in Australia?
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I think that the Chinese have worked out that there is more extreme weather at lower atmospheric CO2 levels, and are on a deliberate path to increase them. Their worst flood disaster was in 1887 when the Yellow River flooded with an estimated 6 million lives lost from drowning and subsequent famine.
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There is no limit because THEY HAVE NO PLAN.
All they know is they need more bird killers and solar panels. The slightly smarter (but still stupid) ones know Big Batteries are needed but have no clue whatsoever as to how incredibly large these systems would have to be.
And there is no one in a position of authority that is either willing or capable of making the very basic calculations to demonstrate that an industrial civilisation based upon unreliables simply cannot work.
We have the CSIRO nd the Chief Scientist. Neither of them have warned government about what is about to happen as they continue on this destructive path. And yet that is surely their most basic responsibility and why we pay them a fortune.
Here is a calculation (link below) done to demonstrate the infeasibility of running the United States on unreliables and Big (hydro) Batteries. The calculations are simple, there is no mystery, and no uncertainty. It is very clear Australia and all other countries are HEADED FOR DISASTER. BUT, OF COURSE, THAT IS THE PLAN.
The calculation below is for the US, it should be simple to do something similar for Australia.
https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/11/pump-up-the-storage/
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It is more engineering than science so where are the power engineers? Your electric companies must have them.
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Our engineers are silenced because the utilities are making a fortune rebuilding their generation assets with renewables.
See my https://www.cfact.org/2022/06/02/silence-of-the-power-engineers-nerc-does-nothing/
Where are the silent Oz power engineers employed?
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We are in an environment now where ideology, fiction and political weather outcompetes reason, fact and reality. Any practical engineers have either retired or left the power companies. They’ve been replaced by graduates brainwashed by climate change bad science since the 1990’s. Also, like doctors, somewhere in their undergraduate training any morsel of skepticism or basic inquisition is belted out of them.
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David,
I regret to say that (generally) the Engineering profession here in Australia are as woke as the politicians*.
Like the latter, they have swallowed the global warming nonsense hook line and sinker. They may be good at sophisticated mathematics, but it seems none of them have a clue about biology and the role CO2 plays in our health and the health of the planet. I’m also a bit doubtful that they remember the rudiments of arithmetic. Surely if they put their minds to it they would work out how trivial the contribution of fossil fuel combustion is in the scheme of things, and then come clean and provide some sensible advice.
*Have a look at any issue of the Institution of Engineers Australia magazine “Create”.
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Further thought on CO2 and our health:
I don’t remember where I got this quote from, but I’ve always liked it. “Carbon dioxide is the cradle of our intelligence.”
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Michaelin,
I am a member of the IEAust and, unfortunately, I have to agree with you. As a retired Electrical Engineer I know that the whole Climate Change industry is trying to solve a problem that doesn’t exist. Many of my colleagues also know that the climate isn’t changing beyond the normal seasonal changes but these days, although the alarmist claim that they are ‘following to the science’, they seem to be more interested in listening to the ravings of a Swedish teenager.
I suspect that most experienced engineers know that it will not be possible to operate a modern society off ‘renewable’ energy but it seems that we will have to learn the hard way by following the Europeans down the renewables path. We don’t seem to be smart enough to learn from their (bad)experience.
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Don’t forget that the committees of engineers and the magazine club writers are not The Engineers. No one has surveyed Engineers and Geos since 2012 and back then nearly two thirds were skeptics.
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So 36% were incompetent in 2012…? I have a feeling that percentage has increased in 10 years.
At work, I aim surrounded by a lot of people who call themselves geologists. As far as I am concerned, if they believe that CO2 is a problem, then they should give back their BScs, MScs and PhDs because they still don’t understand geology, let alone science in general.
They’re also hypocrites as they continue to work in the oil & gas industry…
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Yes. Regret to say the same goes for the UK. The “I Mech E” (Institution of Mechanical Engineers) has been plugging this rubbish for years as a look at any copy of their magazine “Professional Engineer “ will demonstrate. Maybe the hope of grabbing a chunk of the very large financial cake is driving them? As a retired Chartered Engineer I can only grind my teeth!
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Tones,
Indeed. I was a member of the Energy Institute -ex Petroleum Institute.
Went all woke about the time I retired [or perhaps I had enough time to notice, as I was never very active].
I promptly resigned, leaving the greasy-pole climbing to the brown-nosers…..
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No plan and no brains. Are the so-called experts so beholden to political imperatives that they can’t make a strategic decision? You can rub it in their faces when this farce becomes apparent but no one will accept the blame. Fools I say.
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There is no limit because THEY HAVE NO PLAN.
And who will force them to substantiate their claims about the logistics and economics of both EVs and the power grid?
Will it be the leftist media?
Will it be the leftist opposition?
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Chris Bowen said “we have 86 months between now and 2030 …. to get to 43% reduction.
43% reduction would be the biggest economic transformation our country has seen since the war”.
He added we need to put 60 million solar panels on roofs and put up 40 wind turbines a month over the next eight years which is more than one a day. This is a massive task.
Someone must have quantified this scope for Chris as he now seems to be vaguely aware of the magnitude of the task he has set himself.
Bowen doesn’t seem to realize that the only C02 reductions that can be made are the man-made ones which are less than 5% of all atmospheric CO2 currently 420 ppm.
So 43% of 5% of 420ppm = a massive saving of 9ppm at a cost of $30 – $50 billion.
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I think he knows what futile exercise it is, but really does not care. He’s set for life no matter what.
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I sometimes wonder if those in charge are either just stupid uneducated fools or malicious socialists wishing to destroy Western Civilisation.
The answer is that they are both.
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David. I have been convinced for decades that the move to ban coal and other cheap energy was driven by the communists who having failed with guns and missiles now parade in green sackcloth but have effectively destroyed us never-the-less. They have infiltrated the education sector to such an extent that our children are being taught pure crap and can no longer think for themselves. Our politicians, particularly those on the left, have never held a real job but have been progressed from a green related university degree to a closeted career in a politicians office. Their exposure to the real world is zero. Never have they faced the reality of meeting a payroll or creating and marketing a product, of creating the wealth that they confiscate to spend on their pet projects. They are the worst possible example of a citizen who should be in charge of our country. The dumb and greedy vote them into power while the real workers are forced to pay for their largesse. I am not bitter just so very disappointed that we have allowed this to happen under our noses. But there is a glimmer of hope.
In the US the Democrats believed they had secured all future elections by fraud. They moved too far and too fast in their exuberance and made a lot of people really take notice of how their country was being destroyed from within. The fightback by the MAGA movement over the past two years has been wonderful to watch and the culmination of that effort should be clear in a few weeks. While I hope for a huge win I do not expect the Democrats to lose gracefully and fraud will once again be rampant but this time more people will be alert and watching. A big win by MAGA could be the catalyst for spine growing in Australia as well.
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“uneducated fools”
Quite often they are History graduates, especially ‘firsts’ from Oxbridge, that think that intelligence is a substitute for knowledge and experience. Or they have studied PPE, Politics, Philosophy and Economics, when Physics, Engineering, and more Physics would have been more useful.
There are some Arts and Humanities graduates that do understand that intelligence is the ability to learn STEM subjects from STEM graduates, and they are a delight, entertaining and very well informed. However, none of these appear to have frequented the UK Ministry of Energy in recent times, ever since Joan Ruddock 🙂 , (who studied Botany and Chemistry), left in May 2010.
We have just had Sunak, our latest prime minister, reverse the policy for fraccing to restart again, that the previous prime minister, Truss, had implemented, much to the delight of our only Green Party MP.
It’s a case of ‘Smile, things could be worse. So he smiled, and things got worse!’
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Here’s an interesting clip, showing Sunak has changed his mind:
https://youtu.be/qKrfgbPnZf0
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Sunak also joyfully proclaimed one of his first priorities was a lovely phone chat with his woefully woke and fellow WEF stooge Jussie Truedope. I’m sure they managed to agree on a plan to further sabotage the future prosperity of their respective populations.
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David. How many times must you be made aware of the massive amounts of money available to politicians who enable all this, before you will stop asserting these politicians are ‘stupid” or “socialists” etc.
They are in it for the dough!
If you still don’t get it, think Nigerian princes. Think Shopping Channel salesmen dealing in the ever “new” baldness cures, anti-wrinkle creams, ab-blasters etc. Think scamster “tradesmen” targetting old codgers with dementia etc etc. NONE of these frauds are “stupid”, nor “socialists”. THEY ARE FRAUDS.
BTW: So long as decent people pretend the crooks do not understand what they are doing (“stupid”) they will never be accountable ?
“I know I got fabulously rich from my BS but I didn’t know that would happen, Your Honour” doesn’t do it for me.
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These Guardian and other loonies seem to be trying to outdo each other with their lies and stupidity.
The remarkable thing is that other lefty loonies continue to read this rubbish and still believe it.
We’ve reached peak stupid in our coverage of our energy requirements for the next century and yet our so called engineers and scientists always sit on their hands and act dumb.
But I suppose Turnbull will be pleased with his loony Guardian mates and will be so happy he encouraged them years ago.
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Hmm… high winds, heatwaves, freezing rain…..these are causing problems for fossil fuel generators. Exactly what effects do these three events have on wind turbines, solar panels and batteries ?
Is being a scientific illiterate a requirement to gaining employment at the Guardian ?
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Part of The Grudgingly’s second quote included the standard disclaimer:
‘this is still a work in progress’.
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Those so called journalists are looking the wrong way and it’ll all come back to haunt them one day.
The weather we are experiencing right now is reminiscent of a drift into a global cooling phase.
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The next big story will be on warm blobs, but how to convince themselves that its caused by AGW.
https://climateimpactcompany.com/early-ag-market-weather-climate-alert-4/
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Warm blobs? Is that shorthand for public servants in heated offices?
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The worrying thing is that the readership of the Guardian is 35 and over, well educated individuals with university degrees.
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It’s funny .King Canute was a character of ridicule for thinking he could turn back the tides. He now appears normal compared to those who actually think that a few wind turbines and solar panels will not only reduce the temperature but stop cyclones, hurricanes, droughts and floods.
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understanding was that Canute was not alover of flattery.
He knew full well that he could not turn back the tide, no matter how many brown-nosing coves told him he could.
And he proved them right.
So, where is the pollie, today, in the Anglosphere at least, who dares say to the watermelons – “You talk a load of bollocks! Unreliables will cause people to die! I don’t want that – even if you do. Go away and multiply!”
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‘…reached peak stupid…’
I am certain the peak is just beyond the bend.
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Or a Harpic pinnacle – “Clean round the bend”
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You made all this up. Right?
It is like an April Fool’s joke.
Starting a new tradition: All Hallows’ Eve Buffoonery.
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Someone should tell them?
Someone should put guards over their ears so they can’t plug them with their fingers. Gag them so they can’t go na na na while you explain. Use matches to keep their eyes open, A Clockwork Orange style.
All that is going to happen is my comments will be plagiarised and spun around for the next Guardian piece.
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This thread is about deliberate destruction of the inexpensive, reliable power production methodologies established and proven for well over 100 years in Western Countries.
Of course, as the thinking community realises, the Left are waging this war against Civilisation on multiple fronts including destruction of traditional moral and family values and destruction of traditional modes of housing on reasonable sized block of land in favour of Agenda 2030 “compact cities” with a high density, easy to control and lock up population with poor mobility options, just to name a few issues.
How are they destroying personal mobility? They are destroying that marvel of the industrial revolution, the personal motor vehicle that empowers all people with FREEDOM, that quality so hated by the Left.
THEY are destroying personal mobility by high fuel costs and taxes, failure to build needed roads and car parks, and the introduction of bicycle lanes on existing roads not designed to accommodate them, which involves removal or restrictions on existing traffic lanes and removal or car parking spaces. And of course banning sale of ICE vehicles in favour of unaffordable (for all but the Elites), electric cars.
The insane inner city councils of Melbournistan, Australia have been particularly active in destroying the road system with bicycle lanes recently. Of course, most Leftist leaders get chauffeur driven everywhere or at least get free at taxpayer expense taxi travel. And other Leftists choose to be unemployed so have plenty of time and are quite happy to ride bicycles etc..
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zenith, peak, apex, ultimate, dregs, whatever!
“You ain’t seen nothing, yet”!
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Did the WMO say anything about the Atacama Desert lithium miners who use extremely limited fresh water to extract lithium carbonate brine from subsurface deposits to surface reservoirs?
The two major companies operating in the region reportedly extract brine at a rate of about 60 billion litres per year.
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More lunacy from the Guardian donkeys. Droughts are not worse in Somalia and their population has increased from 2.2 million in 1950 to 17.5 million today or about 8 times in just the last 70 years.
Also life expectancy has increased from 33 in 1950 to about 58 today. When will these ignorant fools WAKE UP?
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/SOM/somalia/life-expectancy Here’s the Guardian link and again just unbelievable.
Here’s the full link to Paul Homewood’s excellent data and evidence. And again Paul even included the fact that la nina phase means less rain in that area of Africa, but more rain for Eastern Australia.
BTW ditto for the IOD when a negative IOD means more rain in Australia and less rain in that part of Africa.
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2022/10/27/somalia-say-drought-is-due-to-climate-change-as-they-demand-billions/#more-59416
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Have you heard the latest insanity? C40 Cities.
https://www.rebelnews.com/tags/c40_cities
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Standing together to create sustainable, prosperous and equitable cities! Check out ‘Vancouver Is Dying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT8OU8Yhs_s&t=84s
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The easiest way to halve the emissions of a city is to drive out half the people.
The best way to induce this is to send in to the city only half of the required food.
See – we can do this.
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Australia is represented in Sydney and Melbourne
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There is no way rational argument will convince a zealot and the politicians in power at present are first class zealots. It seems to me there are only 2 ways this will change.
1 The world starts to cool precipitously. Slow cooling will be “adjusted” to continued warming as zealots try to maintain the fiction. I suspect this is unlikely.
2 Average, currently complacent, citizens (those not swept up into the zealotry) start to feel the pain inflicted by zealots and become non complacent, reacting by voting against them. I think this is likely, Europe and Britain are on the brink and may well swing this winter. I suspect Australia is not far behind given the projected increases in energy and I see signs parts of America are already swinging. It does however require some politicians courageous enough to speak out against the zealotry. People like Pauline Hansen. You know, the person with the courage to say what ordinary people are thinking but dont dare utter.
I suspect our Liberal party is terminal, it lacked the courage to stand up for the values it claims to expose and in the process made itself irrelevant. The question in my mind is; “what party will be the one to define and expouse conservative values moving forward”. I would like to start supporting them.
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When the Liberals lose the upcoming Victoriastan election, they may or may not have a wake up call. I suspect not. Their climate zealotry even exceeds that of Labor. And also, the Teals are making a big putsch to unseat the Liberals.
The next Government of Victoriastan will be an unspeakably evil and incompetent Labor/Green/Teal coalition.
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I remember doing 2 tours of Tarong Power Station in the 1990’s, Split yard creek pumped hydro power station in 1983 as a kid before it was opened. I remember the Qld government ads on Telly in the eighties espousing such advances, like the new opened Gladstone coal power station, for powering Qld, jobs and industry, such as the alumina smelters. I remember as a kid the power blackouts in 1985 when the SEQEB when out on strike. Swanbank power station was just down the road. After 2 weeks of rolling blackouts public opinion was strongly behind the government to sack the strickers to ensure no more blackouts and a cheap reliable electricity supply. In the 1970’s the Federal Government recognised the national importance of the Gladstone power station, agreeing to contribute up to $80 million. What has happened to those days?
The opposite, instead of building up our state and country for jobs and a bright future, we listen to Swedish children and pompous wind bags like Bowen who has failed everything he has touched, which cost us big time.
Once the frequent blackouts, brown outs and the power costs go through the roof, which start piling on, watch the people flip their support off of these vandals and relegate them their ideas, and their insanity to the rubbish bin.
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Possibly the greatest scam was the creation of a National ‘Grid’. Utterly unnecessary.
And the cost of the endless power lines for the huge area required by wind and solar is a complete waste of money and land, a mass destroyer of the environment, even the coastlines.
There was nothing wrong in the first place but utterly fact free and irrational Climate Change has been created and used by the UN/EU and Governments all over the world to take electrical power away and into their hands. Electrical power is political power, wielded by bureaucrats against their enemies. The voters.
All in the name of saving the planet, which is transparently utter rubbish. From what? Where? When? No one knows.
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Eric Worrall doesn’t hold back, the democratic cycles are slow.
‘Britain, Australia and Canada have much longer to wait until voters can deliver their verdict on UN climate communism. The next British national election does not have to occur until January 2025. Same for Australia. And Trudeau, who won an election in 2021, can also wait out his full four year term until 2025.
‘All eyes are on the United States. There could be a lot more riding on the midterm elections than who gets to control the US Congress and Senate.’ (wuwt)
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The line “ unreliable coal” has been uttered by Dan Andrews and Lily d’ Ambrosio numerous times. Those 2 clowns oversee the energy sector in Victoria from a political side. Doesn’t matter that Loy Yang B has been pumping out electricity at greater than 100% capacity for years now. Apparently, that doesn’t matter. Or that occasionally they might need to be closed down for maintenance. That also qualifies as being unreliable. These are the same 2 who also won’t fund any more dams for Victoria. Because, you know, it’s not going to rain any more.
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As they say in the classics:
“Something wicked, this way comes”. (Macbeth; via Ray Bradbury and Walt Disney).
The acceleration of this terminal rat-baggery has been ramping up gently for a decade. Now it seems to me that the “pedal” has been floored.
There HAS to a be a timetable of convergences, coupled with the harsh reality that the expectant “beneficiaries” of the “spillage” are NOT IMMORTAL. Their ruthless lust for temporal POWER, as they strip life-saving “power” from the “peasants”, knows NO BOUNDS.This sort of assault on REAL PEOPLE is far from unprecedented, but this incarnation has harnessed vast power of “communication” to distract and confuse those whom they would destroy.
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It is all about to get VERY messy. Those openly NOT “with the programme are already being targeted. Get your personal “affairs” in order NOW.
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By the pricking of my thumbs,
Something wicked this way comes.
Open, locks,
Whoever knocks!
William Shakespeare, Macbeth, Act 4, Scene 1
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If in doubt, Blame the victim. Nazis and commies did that, green fascism does it now
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Further down that line of ill-logic –
https://michaelshellenberger.substack.com/p/top-dems-urge-biden-to-nationalize
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One of the main players calling the shots is Herr Klaus Schwab.
Schwab is about as close to a real life James Bond villain who wants to rule the world with his puppets, as you could imagine, complete with the bizarre uniform and the German accent.
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Now his puppets come in different colours as well.
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Even his name Schwab is enough to put you off, I keep thinking of a pus stained piece of gauze.
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That madman, Bill Gates, through his Foundation, donated US$13 million and US$6.5 million to the Guardian, and, the Conversation, respectively. More here:
Columbia Journalism Review Exposes How Bill Gates Foundation Spends Millions To Control News Outlets And Social Media ‘Fact Checkers’
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It’s quite surprising (pleasantly) that somebody from a Left leaning journal like Columbia Journalism Review wrote something like that.
Somebody must be engaging in genuine scholarship and/or inquiry.
The only conclusion is that somehow that article escaped editorial censorship because editors were asleep at the wheel.
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We are talking about the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which gave the Guardian $5 million for its Global Development webpage.
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The Conversation is the same, specific funding for a particular project.
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation funded The Conversation Media Group in Australia to help launch pilots in the United States and in South Africa.
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Apologies if this has already been posted but these very basic, big picture numbers should, in a properly functioning MSM be headline news.
“Economist Jeff Currie of Goldman Sachs (Global Head of Commodities Research in the Global Investment Research Division): “Here’s a stat for you, as of January of this year. At the end of last year, overall, fossil fuels represented 81 percent of overall energy consumption. Ten years ago, they were at 82. So though, all of that investment in renewables, you’re talking about 3.8 trillion, let me repeat that $3.8 trillion of investment in renewables moved fossil fuel consumption from 82 to 81 percent, of the overall energy consumption. But you know, given the recent events and what’s happened with the loss of gas and replacing it with coal, that number is likely above 82.” … The net of it is clearly we haven’t made any progress.”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/10/25/goldman-sachs-jeff-currie-3-8-trillion-of-investment-in-renewables-moved-fossil-fuels-from-82-to-81-of-overall-energy-consumption-in-10-years/
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It’s a coincidence that Albanese Labor have very similar objectives isn’t it?
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“Heatwaves are apparently wrecking coal plants now.”
While humans see a great deal of difference between a pleasant 25C and a very hot 45C, boilers could not care. But generator temperatures are closer to 600C. In fact the Carnot engine efficiency is based on the temperature difference, so the hotter the top temperature the better for efficiency of conversion of heat to electricity. This is a law of thermodynamics about which we can do nothing, the conversion of heat energy to work.
For sub critical, super critical and ultra super critical generators the limits are 565C, 580C and >580C.
But a lot is lost in transmission, so it is far better for cars to run on fossil fuels than to distribute electricity. Electric cars will mean a terrible loss of energy overall. It is virtue signalling and ignorance and government subsidies which are responsible for these rolling environmental disasters.
And what happens to our mountains of brown coal? According to politicians, they will be unused because we humans control the atmosphere of the planet. And politicians are wise people who know how powerful they become when ordering everyone around, whether in a pandemic or with their essential energy supply.
There was a time when politicians acted in the best interest of the population. Now they are all dictators. As devout communist Adam Bandt said to me in 2005 before he discovered the Greens, “we tell them what they want to hear and when we get power, we do what we want.”
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The German fiasco only gets worse.
‘Blackout News also reports that not only bakeries have been getting hammered by the excruciatingly high energy prices but also so has the restaurant industry, as “two-thirds of foodservice businesses are on the verge of going out of business.” (Notrickszone)
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Live protest feed in France.
https://youtu.be/BSzTmX4D4lg
The people are revolting.
MOAR solar! MOAR money and weapons of war to Zelenzky. MOAR incompetent lying politicians!
That’ll fix everything.
Oh hang on – that all caused our problems…
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Major protests in Czechoslovakia calling for the removal of the government and for a gas deal with Russia.
Dump the incompetent WEF puppet governments everywhere now or there will be global revolutions next year.
The WEF’s own agenda is destroying them.😂
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And here in Australia we’ve got a new manifestation of unforeseen consequences.
This aspect of the problem had escaped me.
Sounds grim.
The problem gets worse without any further deterioration of the supply!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-29/australian-power-market-in-turmoil-as-insurers-bail-out/101590582
Cheers
Dave B
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The ugly face of capitalism, middle men are being squeezed.
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Why did Lawrence of Arabia and his Arab guerrilla military forces bother to sabotage the steam trains in Egypt during WW1, they would have failed in the very hot desert conditions, according to climate hoaxers.
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Everything you say is correct Jo. In Australia we are a nation led by fools !!
Fools and liars that is. I don’t know which is worse, but the population voted for these people so ultimately they get what they voted for and I have long since reached the point of not caring.
Who knows what the future holds but I would like to think that one day, perhaps . .
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Interesting how in India they deploy solar farms over rivers. This saves land use/waste, means solar farms can be closer to the customers, the rivers have a cooling effect on the panels and the panel arrays reduce water evaporation, protecting their water supply too!
Clever and practical.
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Politicians are only human and have been swayed by propaganda, consider yourself lucky if you can see through the haze.
‘Who knows what the future holds …’
This is true, but it should be possible to falsify global warming within a decade, simply from observation.
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It was. Back in 2009.
It was called Climategate and was the subject of much mirth here at Jo Nova.
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Climategate was an extraordinary leak, but the MSM kept away from ridiculing the high priests of climate change. So no progress there.
The observation I was referring to is climate related, we are waiting for the oceanic oscillations to fall into sync.
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I agree with MV except it was earlier. By 2000 they knew the ice cores showed that temperature led CO2 and not the other way around. There was no major role obvious for CO2 at all in the ice cores. By 2005 they knew that there was no catastrophe coming. The hot spot was absolutely categorically missing, there was no amplification of the effect of CO2.
In a normal science world the wheels would have fallen off the wagon around then.
Though to be fair, all the paleo and proxy temperature evidence was there all along. We knew climate change was bigger badder and completely inexplicable from the start.
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Actually, I know it was earlier Jo, I was just having a light-hearted dig at Gordi.
I know it was earlier – my best-selling book – “The Greenhoax Effect” – was first published in January 1990, and that, in turn, was based on articles in my monthly newsletter, “The Inside News”, in 1988 and 1989.
I’ve been at this for a while now.
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Gordi’s response at 3.36 pm was perfectly reasonable.
Why have three Richard Craniums given it a thumbs down?
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The CO2 lagging T, often by many hundreds of years, did it for me to.
But I was paying attention, in part because I felt a little guilty for being a climate thug towards an Uncle at the dinner table, and later realised I knew nothing.
And then there are the Oceans, inc CO2 response to T…
And clouds / water cycle
And, especially, land use changes.
And mathematical and physics sillies pretending that average global T was a meaningful and measurable parameter to tenths of a degree
But, on and on for so many years it has gone.
We, in the west at least, are buried miles deep in all manner of horse doo.
Jo, you do a service for humanity with the record you make here. You have a strength that I have lost. Keep going. It is important.
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Here’s Ross McKitrick interviewed by Tom Fuller re that Hockey stick
and some history.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-mFnG-i7Fg&ab_channel=TomNelson
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“Politicians are only human and have been swayed by propaganda,”
No! They are not human! They are a particularly slimy and nasty aberrant, every one of them. A defective copy of a human who only desires to the power to force their ideas upon others and make the people bend to their will. They know the truth about global warming, about the vaccines, about CO2, they just don’t give a sh*t if we are ruined by what they are doing.
Every one of them should be burned at the stake while Parliament is filled with people who have to be dragged in there to oversee Govt doing the absolute minimum to make Australia work.
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yes…yes…YES, KP. Why can I only give one thumbs up, when I’d like to give you a hundred!
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Another effect of climate change –
An label for
“Harris Farms Markets
Turkey Breast
Made using 100% Australian pork
Made in Australia from at least 90% Australian ingredients”
Sent to me by a bloody New Zealander who doesn’t need any extra help in taking the mickey!
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If only we could bring back “Rubbery Figures” starring “power costs will drop upwards” Albo, Daffy Duck Despicable Dictator Dan, and go after “renewable” energy, Unsafe&Defective vaxx, the WEF etc.
I’m sure there are a few people talented enough to do it.
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It would probably be labelled as dangerous disinformation and a threat to democracy.
Two satirical news sites (The Shovel, and the Betoota Advocate) were 110% behind Labor for the last election, and it wasn’t even clever satire, just snarky junk. They used to be consistently funny, and had a reasonable go at every side (as they should), now it’s about 1 in 20 for being even vaguely amusing – if I am being generous.
Must be due to climate change.
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It wasn’t a hostile power until the customers decided to treat it as hostile.
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Jordan Peterson, just hours ago, released this excellent video about imposed energy poverty and starvation.
Please try to watch some or all of this video.
A good man to have on the rational thinkers’ side.
25 mins.
https://youtu.be/tF5spyudTYA
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The lands that sheep and cattle graze in Australia, typically have marginal rainfall, and will never be cropped. Removing the ruminants, will result in the grasses burning in the summer sun, releasing co2, and increasing potential for wind erosion. Meat and wool production will be LOST. The co2 produced is likely irrelevant, as other plants will simply absorb it and grow.
Is Professor Peterson suggesting that the “elites” are seeking to liquidate billions of humans, in pursuit of their Gaia death cult? The cold people in Europe may come to realise that cows and sheep grazing west of our Great Dividing Range are not their enemy, but may be their salvation, if only they can rid themselves of their “elites”
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So POTUS claims gas prices are down since he took office.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fact-check-biden-falsely-claims-the-most-common-gas-price-was-over-5-when-he-took-office/ar-AA13usOO
I can’t tell if the absurdity and gaslighting is because they are losing and desperate …
or this is the final assault as the Gates of Reality are about to be breached.
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Chris Bowen is the Anti-Christ
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More like the “Christ a F’n Mighty? !!” of that usual expression
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Gravitational energy storage
The Empire State Building weighs 331 million tonnes. Mount Everest is 8849 Metres high
By pushing the Empire state building up to the top of \Mt Everest you can store about 8 GW hrs of gravitational potential energy.
Do that 4000 times in the UK in 2050 when we are net zero for everything and you have a weeks worth of backup.
EEZY PEEZY SIMPLES
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So, by 2050, 28 years away . . . .
In the UK, we need to either: –
AAA bring a Mount Everest sized mountain 200 miles closer each year [ignoring those countries which lose the mountain, and those it passes over . . .], and then have something to lift up it;
or
BBB invest in an Empire State building [really 331 million tonnes? Not, say, 331 thousand?] right by Mt. Everest, but 28 years to design, get planning, and build it. Plus kit to lift it, and a cable to get the energy from, and back to, the UK.
Sounds daft.
Is it as daft as wind, or solar at over 50 North?
Asking for a young friend, recently promoted to a very posh job, looking after a cat called Larry, in tied accommodation in London SW1A …..
Auto
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Unfortunately journalism is no longer about reporting the facts, it’s now all about creating a headline that generates “clicks” from your target audience.
In other words, tell them what they want to hear.
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Classic high school debating. But the scary thing is they really think they can control the weather now.
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