Sunday Open Thread

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    Gerard

    Another 4 years of disaster Dan. I wonder when the vaccine mandate will start?

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      Dennis

      I wonder how many people in Victoria know that Labor managed to convince both Houses of Parliament, as required, to approve of permanent Emergency Powers legislation held by the Premier who can now impose a lockdown without consultation?

      As far as I am aware no other State or Federal government has that power and would need to get the permission of Parliament.

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        Mike Jonas

        When Scott Morrison did something akin to that, the media went on and on for days about how he didn’t tell anyone. If the public in Victoria are unaware of this grab for power by Dan Andrews, shouldn’t the media be equally agitated?

        NB. The media didn’t complain at all about what Scott Morrison actually did, because Gough Whitlam did the same thing in spades. The media only complained about Scott Morrison not telling people.

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      John Connor II

      Shake your head, sit back and watch the great disaster unfold.
      The Dan voters should watch the China Covid links I posted to see their own future. Too late now. Reap what you sow.

      George Carlin said it best.

      https://youtu.be/2LA5EdTztVM

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      Greg in NZ

      c/- TheirABC: Dictator Dan “hit back at critics of his leadership during Victoria’s pandemic”.

      Hit back? As in rubber bullets to the backs of citizens? As in shoving old ladies to the ground? As in arresting pregnant mothers for Wrong-Think? Temper, temper, Mr Tantrum Andrews. RIP Victoria.

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    David Maddison

    The horrors of the last eight years of psychopath Dictator Daniel Andrews will be far worse in the next four.

    Nothing will stop him now.

    It proves you can no longer win elections by appealing to reason and common sense. Elections are win by whomever offers the most “free stuff”.

    It won’t end well. Australia is headed the way of Venezuela.

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      Dennis

      I wonder if the four or sometimes mentioned five IBAC Inquiries into the Premier’s activities will now be completed?

      The Commissioner complained during the election campaign that IBAC is restricted by a lack of funding already.

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      John Connor II

      Venezuela?
      More like France or Canada methinks.

      Just wait until the vaxxed all get sick next year and the hospital system has melted down.
      Let’s see what Dan does.
      Gawd help Victoria…

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        Vicki

        Trouble is – all the rest of us who argued for freedom of choice and a recognition of all the dissenting epidemiologists – will also suffer through scarcity of hospital places and access to specialists.

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      Ronin

      ‘The pweeple lurve me, wait till they see what I have in store for them.’

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    David Maddison

    I saw this posted on Farcebook:

    Just too sad to bother worrying about what is right anymore. If people choose the dark side and are choosing to lose liberty, civility, decency and morality, then those of us who choose to retain those values must do the best we can to live our lives as usual for as long as we can but be well prepared.

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    Victorians will now be going back to Victorian times which was Paradise for the elite and Hell for everyone else.

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      Greg in NZ

      Didn’t she marry her cousin? Elite ‘paradise’ huh, keeping it in the family, ew. Just take a look at King Charlie what’s his face, shudder.

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      yarpos

      What makes you think VICis that unique, although different othe States are teslly marching down a dimilaf path. Look at NSW under a nominally Lib govt, and the damage wrought by dear leader Anastasia in QLD.

      I received an email yesterday from an apartment building in Burleigh Heads promoting school holiday vacancies. You used to have to book 6-12 months ahead. Might just be a sign of a worsening economy I guess.

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    Dennis

    An interesting post election observation I heard at Sky News last night referred to younger people voting, that possibly from age thirty and younger many or most are now indoctrinated with climate hoax concerns and related political agenda items like transitioning to unreliable energy and electric vehicles, etc. And accordingly the Greens, pale greens masquerading as Independents and any other campaigning for election source of climate based policies are now favoured by the majority of young voters.

    I add that this would be the reason by the Greens, pale greens and even Labor far-left are again talking about lowering the voting age to 16 years.

    It could also explain the May 2022 Federal Election result on primary votes with about one third rejecting the major parties and one third each for Labor and Coalition, but Labor receiving slightly less primary votes?

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      RobB

      What do you expect of the generations that were driven to school by their mummies and daddies, driven to sports by their mummies and so on? They have no independence, they expect others to protect them, they want to be nannied. So when Dictator Dan comes along and protects them from that nasty covid virus, they only feel comforted and safe. And when Dictator Dans goons beat up little old ladies protesting against lockdowns, they only feel safer still, since clearly Dictator Dan is a strong man who is afraid of nothing and will do anything to protect them. So they love him even more and vote him in again.

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    David Maddison

    Who is there for Victoriastan Liberals to choose as “leader” now?

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      Graham Richards

      Dan Andrews. There is not another leader in sight, only wish washy would be dreamers!!

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        Dennis

        Is he really a leader or is he a skilled manipulator of people backed by like minded far-left Labor faction members and MPs?

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          yarpos

          Perhaps if we all chip in we could get Jordan Peterson to profile him? Dan certainly shows some interesting traits.

          Petersons views on Trudeau are what some would say, quite harsh.

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          Ross

          Andrews is effective because from day one he is in 24/7/365 election mode. In other words every day he spends his entire time either defending the votes the Labor party has or trying to recruit new votes. I have no doubt every policy or decision undertaken in the Premiers office by himself or advisors uses that qualification first – the good of the state has lower priority. It’s all carefully scripted, rehearsed, workshopped well before any political decisions are revealed to the public. The guy is a high level control freak, no one else has ever come close in the past. The opposition – they’re just mild, meek amateurs in comparison. Helps though, when the bulk of the media are behind you, the public service and of course the unions.

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          Phil

          He’s not a leader. He’s a bully and typical of a bully, a coward.
          Too scared to go to the AFL grand final, too scared to cast his vote in his electorate.
          Hasn’t been seen amongst “his people” for years.

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        jelly34

        Jeoff Kennett.He would eat Dan the CFMEU man for breakfast.

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      Dennis

      Nationally the Liberal Party is in trouble internally, the National Party not so much.

      There are two sides to the story because Union controlled Labor also have factional disagreements and some are friends and others political enemies, as former Labor Opposition Leader Mark Latham has mentioned including in a Fin Review article just after Labor lost the 1996 Federal election. Add to this the well known 1950s split when the then Communist dominated ALP centre-left members formed the DLP to escape the far-left factions (Democratic Labor Party). It took a couple of decades before common sense prevailed and the ALP came back together and at least publicly behaved to meet the expectations of Australians who tend to be positioned in the centre of the political spectrum.

      In other words we tend to favour candidates for election who are within the centre-left to centre-right area. There are no elected “hard right” or outside of any consequence.

      Today however the Labor side is again dominated by the far-left factions, and they are closest to the darker Greens (watermelons) Party. In fact the Unions donate to both.

      Anthony Albanese is a “Trot” or follower of Russian revolutionary Marxist Leon Trotsky and his fellow travellers no run the parliamentary ALP. Earlier the leaders were “Christian Socialist” Kevin Rudd and founder of the “Socialist Forum faction” Julia Gillard. Dan Andrews is another far-left faction member.

      On the Coalition side, predominantly the Liberal Party, not long before the Howard Government was elected in 1996 Malcolm Turnbull became an ordinary member and later a candidate for election after organising a major branch stacking in the Wentworth Electorate Sydney Eastern Suburbs, he had been first interested in becoming a Labor MP but apparently, accoring to Graham Richardson “Richo” and others was rejected for various reasons. Apparently Malcolm Turnbull decided he would be more welcome as a Liberal because of his career background in law and business. However he was a foundation member of the Liberals In Name Only or LINO left faction that still remains influential in parliamentary and executive levels. I understand that they are centre-left and therefore more like Labor DLP. Which explains why various LINO MPs look and sound like they should be in another party.

      From what I have read in various publications there is a shared objective on the left side of politics, to wreck the Liberal-National side and form an alliance of left side to create a single governing side with little opposition. It appears to me to be globalist politics motivated.

      In The Bulletin Magazine in 2006 there was an article written by journalist Max Walsh covering Opposition Leader Rudd and the ALP and he described a Union “corporate-style takeover” by the Union Movement of the ALP (Union Labor Inc.). Of course Labor has always been the political representatives of unions and unions have wielded considerable influence, remember the quote “the faceless men” which referred to the Communist period resulting in the DLP being formed? When the United Nations was formed after WW2 Labor’s Attorney General Evatt, a lawyer, provided the plan to get member nations to sign treaties and agreements with the UN crafted for use to get around constitutional laws when needed and other reasons and purposes. The marketing is quite good, consider Agenda 21 – Sustainability that Keating Labor signed around 1990 and one result was creation from publicly owned lands UN registered National Parks …. “for future generations”. Who could argue against that?

      Right now with Labor far-left in control of the party, Greens on side, pale greens of similar beliefs and LINO left of much the same style of people politically Australian politics are stuck in a rut veering to the left.

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      shannon

      I would like to see Peta Credlin decide to run…….NOT because she is a woman .but just maybe….she will be driven by principals, political experienced and the betterment of Victoria and its population….What has the state got to lose.????

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        Memoryvault

        Peta Credlin is the wife of Brian Loughnane, known in Liberal Party circles as “The Wizard of Id” for his technical capabilities in branch stacking and other means of getting the preferred candidate preselected. Brian is a past president of the Victorian Liberal Party, amongst many other senior positions.

        Brian and Peta were primarily responsible for getting Malcolm Turnbull into the position of Leader of the Opposition (Peta was his Senior Advisor). When Turnbull was ousted by Tony Abbott Peta became his Senior Advisor, and when they finally got Turnbull back into the head poncho of the Liberal Party and PM of Australia Brian and Peta finally resigned, a job well done from their perspective.

        It is more than fair to say that the Liberal Party today, and particularly the Victorian Liberal Party, is the result of twenty years unstinting effort by Peta and Brian.

        Are you sure you want more of that?

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          Mike Jonas

          I’m calling BS on that.

          https://www.9news.com.au/national/peta-credlin-tony-abbott-malcolm-turnbull-leadership-spill-peter-dutton/9379e5a3-1669-498e-be22-1f63502f9b43

          “Peta Credlin, Tony Abbott’s former chief of staff, has delivered a scathing assessment of Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s performance after he narrowly won a leadership spill against Peter Dutton. [..] As we’ve seen it play out over the past seven days there’s not a principle Turnbull won’t junk, a policy he won’t change, an individual he won’t attack in order to survive and survive he has again today.
          But with 35 votes against the prime minister following his clever ambush spill against himself today, mark my words, his death warrant has been signed and the scaffolding’s been built, it’s only now a matter of time.
          [..] I told you, he is shameless. Malcolm Turnbull has no right to demand loyalty from anyone.”

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      Rick

      Forget the Liberal Party – vote for United Australia. It’s now the only party offering freedom, liberty, personal property rights and decency.

      The Liberal Party, in all states now, are as rotten, corrupt and incompetent as Labor and the Greens.

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    Graham Richards

    How much longer will the LNP remain relevant?

    When will a conservative leader with some “ get up & go “ emerge?

    How many WEF acolytes are anonymously running the LNP. They need to be exposed & removed immediately. In other words get them out of the house NOW. The problems can only be internal, after all, current policies pander to the left & conservative policies / direction, mirror the Socialist l( WEF / UN ) policies of the ALP. Coincidence?? I think not.
    More like planned subversion!!!

    And yet the so called leader says next to nothing. In my mind & the minds of conservatives
    that silence is acceptance & implied approval of ALP policies & the direction they’re taking the country in.

    Until the “ great reset “ of the LNP gets underway with plenty of publicity to keep the voter base interested the party will continue to bleed support & eventually disappear for good!!

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    David Maddison

    A democracy cannot survive once people learn that they can vote themselves “free stuff” from their fellow citizens’ pockets. We are discovering this in Australia and Vicdanistan in particular.

    There needs to be a qualification to vote.

    Forty shilling freeholders.

    This was the idea that in order to have a right to vote you had to have a certain value of property.

    The problem now is that political parties are in competition with each other to see who can give away the most welfare and “free stuff” in order to secure votes.

    This applies to corporate welfare as well (i.e. protection from market forces ensuring that industry has no incentive to become efficient).

    Ultimately there will be so many people voting themselves funds from the public coffers there will be no incentive to produce. We are almost at that point now. If voters had some interest in owning some amount of property this would not be such an issue.

    In the past when such provisions applied, the amount of property ownership required was not huge. It was just enough to prove you were a saver and not a spendthrift.

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      b.nice

      “free stuff” vs “freedom” ..

      “free stuff” wins !

      … people don’t know what freedom is… until they lose it. !

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      Hanrahan

      Maggie Thatcher told us that decades ago. 50% + 1 is not democracy, it is a form of tyranny.

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        Dennis

        She also told us that socialists are people who spend all of our money and then borrow to continue spending.

        And she apologised for being taken in by Kyoto Conference climate hoax and declared it was a nonsense concept.

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          Graeme No.3

          Dennis:
          It was also politically expedient for her at the time. Perhaps she just latched onto advice from the Public Service and later, when she had time to think about it, changed her mind. (Despite her slogan about Not Changing).

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            Hanrahan

            The expedience was to break the coal unions. I never got the opinion she was a true believer.

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              Memoryvault

              Spot on, Hanrahan.

              Thatcher didn’t invent the AGW scam, but she is the one who funded it and gave it legs as you say, to break the coal miner’s union. She set up the Hadley Climate Research Unit with Phil Jones in charge, specifically to “prove” AGW.

              That’s the same Phil Jones who was caught fudging figures in the 2009 Climategate email release, along with Michael Mann, Kevin Trenberth and others. He is the one who admitted in a leaked email that he couldn’t even construct a basic Excel spreadsheet. I think he is featured somewhere in this funny video that came out at the time.

              M4GW – Hide The Decline

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            Perplexed of Brisbane

            I read that she jumped on it as a means of weaning Britain off coal and on to nuclear energy. And it would stick the boot into the miners unions.

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      el+gordo

      Nothing new under the sun, give them bread and circuses and all will be well.

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    David Maddison

    An unfortunate outcome of Australia’s compulsory covid vaccination laws whereby people would be sacked (fired) if they didn’t get injected, was that it removed from institutions all those people who were willing and able to be independent thinkers. Those left are far less likely to think for themselves in any matters that may arise, they will just follow the narrative, or even worse, “The orders”.

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      another ian

      If it still holds the down side of tha for the “Wokery” is that

      “When the going gets tough the tough get going”

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    Adellad

    Victoria has gone from mandatory jabs to pricks with a mandate.

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    I’ve just got back ‘into’ reading again, and the spur which prompted that came from a totally unexpected source.

    I used to read avidly, but without even realising it, I had stopped doing it, and I was only reading anything new from Val McDermid and Michael Connelly, (solely his Bosch novels) as the Bookshop was a drive up the Highway away.

    My 23 year old granddaughter visited us for her Nanna’s (my good lady wife) birthday. I left them alone for a while and I was sitting in the next room in front of my computer.

    After a while, she wandered in and stood in front of my bookcase beside me, and asked ….. “Got any good crime fiction Poppy?”

    It was so far out of left field. Like 99 out of a hundred young ladies of her age, she lives on her phone, and can type on that tiny keyboard at the speed of light. But this was ….. off the Planet, and after closing my mouth, I thought, well, maybe it’s small talk.

    I tentatively mentioned Val McDermid, not even sure really, where it was going, and her reply was that she had heard about her, but wasn’t sure. So, I pointed to the two novels that got me into her as a crime fiction author, and in my opinion, she is the best there is, and that’s saying something.

    Those two novels were from 1997, and the first two novels in her Carol Jordan/Tony Hill series, and they were The Mermaids Singing, and The Wire In The Blood. (and I have now read 24 of her novels, all of that Hill Jordan series, all the Karen Piries both Allie Burns and a few of her stand alones.)

    I then asked if she was actually serious, or just making small talk, and she told me ….. deadly serious. I added that those two novels were pretty graphic, and she told me, all the better then.

    I said I would get those two for her, and then she asked ….. what about something else, not crime fiction, and she added, anything at all. So I said leave it with me and I’ll surprise you.

    I joined up at Booktopia and ordered both of those McDermids I mentioned, and I also got her a copy of Larry McMurtry’s Lonesome Dove, a fictional ‘cowboy’ novel of a great cattle drive from Texas, up to settle in Montana, a truly wonderful and totally unexpected revelation of a novel really. At almost 900 pages of fine print too, and I first read that back in 1987.

    A couple of weeks later, when our daughter phoned for her usual weekly check in with her Mum, she asked me what I had done with the books, because Savvanah now goes to bed earlier each night (yep, still living at home) to read, and even reads at other times also.

    I was dumbfounded really.

    Next visit to the local Beenleigh Library, I noticed right at the front door in the large display bookcase four long shelves of crime fiction, with highlighted novels along the top. I do the library for my good lady who likes reading also, to a degree, but she needs Large Print now, so the Library is the source of that, and her genre of choice is anything Amish, and that is a surprisingly large genre as well, and popular also.

    I was curious about the displayed crime fiction, so I asked one of the lady Librarians about it, and even mentioned my granddaughter’s new found (almost) addiction to the genre.

    The Librarian said that crime fiction was huge, and she mentioned the word ….. ‘monumentally’ huge in fact with young women 18 to 25 years, and said that they just could not get enough of those novels in fact, and that it started around the same time the coronavirus started, so it’s a recent thing.

    And all of that started my reading again. I have done around seven novels so far and have another seven in waiting. Booktopia has more than I expected really, and they deliver quickly as well.

    The new three novel series from Peter F Hamilton, his Salvation series is good, and I’m spreading those three novels out with others between them.

    You just forget how much you really enjoy something like reading, one of life’s little pleasures.

    Oh there were in fact two flops. Both novels by Sebastion Barry. The first, Days Without End had more praise on the front and back cover, so much you had to look hard for the title and author name, and then five pages of praise from every critic known to man, saying that this was the best book ever etc etc etc. It was okay I guess, but if I was pressed, it was boring as b@t$h1t, and the sequel, obviously in reply to those five pages of praise was even more boring.

    I sort of wait now for another novel with five pages of praise I am yet to read, Where The Crawdads Sing.

    Ahhhhh! Life is good!

    Tony.

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      Ronin

      My favourite is the Michael Connelly Bosch series, have you tried her with those.

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        The latest has just been released. I have a copy yet to be read. Desert Star.

        Harry has wound back now, and is teaming up with his latest detective, Renee Ballard, and she’s now into her fifth novel.

        Oddly, I caught up on the Bosch TV Series on Amazon Prime, and it actually wasn’t all that bad really.

        Tony.

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        And then there’s Bony.

        Perhaps the best of Australian Crime Fiction. (well, no doubt about it really!)

        Way way way way too politically incorrect these days.

        I even have my (approved) Arthur W Upfield Home Page.

        He wrote 29 of those Bony novels from 1929 to 1966.

        That Home Page link has 64 further links, with 29 Posts of my Notes from the novels, and 29 book reviews, one for each novel.

        It’s crime fiction like you have almost never read before, and the solving of the crime itself is almost incidental.

        Tony.

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          Hello Tony

          If you are looking for fluff reading, I recommend the Joe Pickett series by CJ Box – there is a TV series but I haven’t seen any yet. There is a bit of deep thinking pseudo-fiction in the action – the one that I just finished was called “Cold Wind”, topically based around the trials and tribulations of the wind power industry in Wyoming. I loved his characterisation of classes of “wealthy people”, as follows:
          1. Those that inherited wealth
          2. Those that “made things”, and
          3. The “skimmers”.

          Naturally, the wind power operators were “skimmers”.

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      mareeS

      I’m a lifelong avid reader, fiction/nonfiction, but my weakness is crime and espionage. Have just stumbled across Richard Osman’s “Thursday Murder Club” books, three in the series so far, cracking good reads and great characters. The club members reside in an English retirement village, of all places, and are in their 70s-80s.Great stuff!

      For life in Nazi Germany and as a glimpse of what to expect from today’s bad actors try Alan Furst. Dark times.

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      Grogery

      and Michael Connelly, (solely his Bosch novels)

      Tony.

      I have the whole series of Bosch and have read them more than once. I was talking to someone the other day that said their mother was in an old people’s home and loves crime novels – I told her she can have the lot.

      I liked the way Connelly progressed as he wrote each book – and I really think it’s important to read the series in chronological order.

      I’ll say the same for Patricia Cornwell. The Kay Scarpetta novels were awesome – I also have the whole series (at the moment).

      My daughter gave me some books to read recently – she usually chooses well – but on this occasion I’m gonna have to tell her she’s lowered her colours. That will be at Christmas in Port Douglas, so I’ll be as kind as possible.

      Tony, I remember you mentioning Atlas Shrugged at some stage. I think I need to read that as I’ve also seen it recommended elsewhere. So as soon as I finish this last book my daughter gave me, I think I will find a copy of that. I have (at least) mild OCD and when I start a book, no matter how bad it is, I seem to have to read the whole thing just in case it ends well.

      I went for quite a while without reading books but enjoying it lately.

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        …..and when I start a book, no matter how bad it is, I seem to have to read the whole thing just in case it ends well.

        I’m the same.

        There was only one novel I started and did not finish.

        A Suitable Boy by Vikram Seth.

        Almost 1500 pages, and I really tried, really. Got to around 800 and that was the end of it for me. It just kept sinking.

        And believe me, you really will like Atlas Shrugged.

        The first time round, some nights I read till 3AM. Just could not put it down.

        I was actually disappointed when I finished reading it, and here I mean really down in the dumps.

        I truly loved reading, I mean really loved reading.

        And now I knew I was never going to read anything even close as good as that ever again.

        It took me months to buy another book.

        Now, I’m really picky. I still enjoy reading, and that will never diminish.

        While there’s a concentration on newer authors, some older novels are still worth revisiting, and two of the best Australian novels are Frank Hardy’s Power Without Glory, and Xavier Herbert’s Poor Fellow My Country.

        Tony.

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          tonyb

          Tony

          totally agree with Your comments about ‘A suitable boy.’ Most that win top literary prizes don’t seem to be worth winning.

          Many young people think earlier times were like today but without I-phones. Consequently, they are often very woke and want to cancel the past when they read about slavery and don’t recognise the context of the times and if they lived back then, they would have exactly the same social attitude as those around them.

          No series of books better illustrates the tough often savage past and the realities of the lives who lived then, than the ‘Shardlake’ series by C J Sampson. The first- Dissolution -is set in the 1530’s as the monasteries are being reformed by Henry 8th. At the heart of each story is a superb crime thriller. The atmosphere is very authentic 16th Century England and it gives readers a very good insight as to why people were like they were and that if they had lived then they wouldn’t have acted any differently and therefore must stop judging them according to today’s human rights

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      John Hultquist

      For American novels, those by Ivan Doig beginning with Dancing at the Rascal Fair are good – and informative. A novel by Jack Schaefer – Monty Walsh – covers a period when the “West” was transitioning from cowboy to modern. His best know novel is Shane.
      For realism try two books by Timothy Egan: The Worst Hard Time and The Big Burn. The sub-titles carry loads of information.

      If one is not interested in U. S. historical development there are many crime novels and lots of gore.

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        John, I mentioned that I have seven books in my next to read pile here at home at the moment.

        One of them is Empire Of Shadows by George Black, (The Epic Story of Yellowstone) and that looks like being an excellent read. It details the opening up of that area following the end of The Civil War, The Indian Wars, Exploration, etc, and (not sure here until I start reading it) it looks like Historical Fact with some fictional thinking about that fact, if you can see what I mean by that.

        The more I read about all of this, the more my opinion changes about the Indians, and the incredibly bad treatment they were subjected to. That started in the late 90s in my Michener ‘phase’. I read Centennial in amongst 19 other Micheners. In Centennial, he writes of the fictional massacre. It made me think ….. Hmm, did the U.S. really do something like that. There was also that movie from the 70s, Soldier Blue as well. Then I found out about The Sand Creek Massacre, just horrific really.

        There was bad amongst the some of the Indians, and there were just so many of them, different ‘tribes’, but it seems the whites were just as bad.

        You live ….. and you learn!

        And reading opens up all of that.

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          Micheners “Texas” is well worth a revisit.

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            Huh!

            I only finished reading Michener’s Texas back in May, and it was a ‘revisit’, having originally read it the first time back in 1997.

            It was like reading it for the first time, something I have found happens a lot. You read so many novels over the years, it just happens like that. The first time I noticed it was in fact with those Bony Crime Fiction novels. The first time I did read them was back in the late 60s and early 70s, and when I started them again back in the mid 90s, I was just so puzzled, as things I picked up on this time around, I totally missed at the first readings ….. and that was the completely sympathetic treatment that Upfield the author used in the manner he treated the aborigines, who were inherent in almost every novel he wrote, and his depth of knowledge about their traditions and lore that he had, and he gets a really unwoke rap these days as a thousand percent politically incorrect, supposedly the fact that he’s a white guy writing about someone with aboriginal heritage, evidently a humungous no no these days.

            The same happened with Texas, like it was completely new all over again, and also with things I didn’t notice with the first reading.

            I had a weird lifetime strangeness with Michener, (something that lasted 36 years) and rather than detail it here, I’ll just (shamefully) link up my own Post on that subject, one I only got around to writing after that reading of Texas, just six weeks ago.

            Reading – Part Three – The Michener Conundrum

            It’s funny how things work out in life.

            Tony.

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      jelly34

      I just saw the video Tony.Totally unexpected ending.

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    John Connor II

    License Plates Could Be Printed On McDonald’s Bags To Stop Littering

    There’s been talk about McDonald’s in southwest Great Britain could print car license plates on drive-thru bags to prevent customers from littering.

    “It’s not clear exactly how the number plate would be printed on packaging, but it could be scanned onto the brown bags that contain the food,” Daily Mail noted.

    Chris Howell, Swansea Council’s head of waste, parks and cleansing, told a climate change corporate delivery committee meeting:

    “The Welsh Government has explored with McDonald’s, or their franchises, whether or not they could print number plates of cars collecting takeaways from their drive-throughs with a view that that would discourage people from discarding their materials (litter).”

    Howell said one of the biggest hurdles with fast-food companies is that if one chain adopts the climate initiative, customers will go to competitors that don’t print license plates on bags.

    “If McDonald’s do it, then people will just go to Burger King instead of McDonald’s, because nobody wants to have their private details printed on that packaging.” He added: “I think it’s a really good idea but at the minute it’s fraught with some difficulties.”

    The nationalist political party in Wales, Plaid Cymru, first proposed the idea more than two years ago during the pandemic lockdown when party leaders noticed a spike in fast-food trash along city streets and highways.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/license-plates-could-be-printed-mcdonalds-bags-stop-littering

    Assuming meat vendors like McD’s even exist in a few years. Their sales are tanking globally now, so it’s a good idea as it’ll rid the world of McD’s once and for all.🤣
    In a cash free world they’d simply tie the bag to the transaction…

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      Ronin

      Can you see the ‘rights’ mob getting all het up on this.

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      John Connor II

      I just remembered this oldie – ordering a pizza in the future.

      https://youtu.be/RNJl9EEcsoE

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      Dennis

      That reminds me of the decision in Ireland years ago to change the traffic rules to drive on the right side of roads.

      The MPs decided that on a certain Monday all light to medium vehicles would drive on the right and if that was a successful transition the next Monday trucks and buses would move to the right.

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      yarpos

      What a great idea. We live 50k+ from the nearest McDs but still see the litter.

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      Mike Jonas

      That tells you just how far the western world has sunk: a measure against littering is portrayed as a “climate initiative”.
      Is there any way back from where we are now?

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    John Connor II

    21 Surveys of Side Effects Following Vaccination Showing Shocking Rates of *SEVERE* Adverse Events

    “Show me the evidence.”

    So demand most people when someone tries to convince that the covid vaccines might actually be responsible for a tremendous amount of medical carnage.

    What follows is a compilation of surveys published as formal studies gauging the rates of various side effects or adverse events following vaccination with the 4 vaccines used in Western countries – Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, & AstraZeneca.

    In other words, evidence.

    https://ashmedai.substack.com/p/21-surveys-of-side-effects-following

    How will the impaired immune systems of the mass vaxxed cope with a really dangerous virus?
    Yup.

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    Ross

    Ok, a whinge about the Vic state election. Almost a copy of the recent fed election, in that there is one major party who have lost all their values and are trying to be the “lite” version of the other. They have lost swathes of supporters as a result. I literally have no-one I really want to vote for. My brother in law all his voting life, turns up to cross his name off the electoral roll (avoid the fine), turns around and walks straight out without voting. Once, I thought him crazy, not anymore. This time I was really tempted. Here’s hoping Dan (or is it Daniel?) finds some more stairs to fall down.

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      Hanrahan

      Did you vote 1 – lib/nat?

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      Dennis

      Recent release of a picture of the holiday house shows a couple of low steps only.

      But Dan’s story was only slightly changed from having a feeling of flying through the air from a greater height, the Ambulance Report (no lights and siren used) describes steps.

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      Dennis

      A much larger fell into Bass Strait a few hundred years ago, a tsunami travelled all the way along the East Coast and caused considerable damage including;

      * Now Sydney Harbour large boulders were moved to the top of the Heads and elsewhere, the surge of water was like a massive bathtub and sloshed back and forth for some time with height reaching the top of the now Sydney Harbour Bridge.

      * In North Queensland the area where Townsville is located was swamped and further North where Cairns is now the hinterland Atherton Tablelands area was stripped of soil that can be seen today as the muddy bottom of the Cairns Harbour.

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        el+gordo

        Do you have a link for Bass Strait, its the first I’ve heard of it. There are suggestions that it crashed south of NZ in the 15th century.

        ‘it is argued that the impact which created the Mahuika crater occurred around 1443 AD, but other sources have placed the date as 13 February 1491 AD.

        ‘Some evidence suggests that the tsunami it caused was observed by Aboriginal Australians and entered into their oral traditions.’ (wiki)

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        Leo G

        The boulders displaced on the Sydney coastline and elsewhere on the Australian East Coast (including Tasmania) are attributed to tsunami triggered by seismic events involving massive land slips on the edge of the 6 kilometre deep Puysegur Trench in the south Tasman Sea at the southwest tip of New Zealand’s South Island.

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      Ross

      Just watched the Netflix series Ancient Apocalypse, then did a follow up Joe Rogan podcast with the presenter of that series – Graham Hancock. He and his partner talk at length about the Tauridian meteors. The earth travels across this meteor stream x2 per year. Late June and early November. This meteor belt has an elliptical orbit, hence the non symmetrical timing. Fascinating because I had previously being totally ignorant of these events. One of the meteor strikes from Tauridian belt probably pushed the earth almost back into the ice age – Younger Dryas event. (12 800 years ago?) One day it will happen again, no ifs, just when. It will make the present claims about catastrophic climate change look like a picnic.

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        el+gordo

        The YD event was caused by a comet or possibly an asteroid.

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        James Murphy

        All those comets leaving their rubbish everywhere for Earth to run into… didn’t their parents tell them to tidy up after themselves?

        With the parlous state of science education, I am surprised that the descendants of Edmond Halley and other astronomers have not already been approached to provide reparations.

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      Graeme No.3

      Judging by the comments I assume that the channel is for those who failed school.

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      Memoryvault

      Great!
      Martian settlers will be able to keep their beer cold.

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      Chad

      I believe that Earth , even after a global Nuclear appocolipse, would still be a far more hospitable and pleasant place to be……than Mars !

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      David Maddison

      I see no practical reason to live on Mars. Robots can do all the necessary exploration. However, rocket fuel can be produced on Mars if reasonable quantities and accessible water ice can be found for hydrogen/oxygen propellant or to make methane propellant from CO2 in the atmoshphere as a source of carbon and oxygen and hydrogen from water ice.

      Lunar settlement is not so useful either. Except it could be a good gateway to launch spacecraft from but only if enough ice or hydrated minerals can be found to produce hydrogen/oxygen rocket propellant.

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    el+gordo

    ‘Chicken Little propaganda dressed up as science.

    ‘The Bureau of Meteorology and the CSIRO have delivered their ­biennial dose of depression about the climate, but their report ignores a slew of positive environmental changes.’ (Peter Ridd / Oz)

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    Peter C

    Goodbye Victoria

    Many people can’t believe it, including the Aussie Cossack

    Watch 2 minutes of this
    https://youtu.be/pwokNjTAqVY

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      yarpos

      The funny part is , as usual, they see themselves as special and different and that somehow they cant end up in exactly the same place (maybe with a different bow wrapped around it) Still, clicks and views I guess.

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      Memoryvault

      I don’t know why anybody is surprised at the Victorian result.

      To all intent and purpose the Lib/Nats have been in total lockstep with Dan for the past three years. Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee. So for voters, what of consequence would have changed if they had voted for a change politicians?

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      Picture a statue
      A hundred feet high,
      Meta fist up-flung
      Punching the sky,
      In the fashion of
      Propaganda art of
      Grim-jawed power.

      Guarded by police
      In a Police State,
      No one will dare
      Raze it to the ground.

      Casting a long
      Shadow across
      The City Square;
      Ozymandas
      Would be impressed.
      The the City Sqareur

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      David Maddison

      I thought he was joking about the bronze statue.

      No!

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11432311/Dan-Andrews-immortalised-statue-serves-3-000-days-Victorian-Premier.html

      Peta Credlin warns Dan Andrews only wants to win the election so he’ll be immortalised in a bronze statue alongside other leaders – and will QUIT politics soon after

      By Stephen Gibbs for Daily Mail Australia
      03:03 20 Nov 2022, updated 08:48 20 Nov 2022

      Sky News commentator Peta Credlin believes if Dan Andrews is re-elected Victoria’s Premier he will quit politics shortly after he qualifies to have a statue erected in his honour early next year.

      Victorian premiers are entitled to be memorialised in bronze near Parliament House once they pass 3,000 days in office – a milestone Mr Andrews would hit on February 20.

      SEE LINK FOR REST

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        Graeme No.3

        David; What makes you think he would retire after the bronze when he could “go for the gold”?
        In any case I cannot foresee him retiring until the problems grow too great and too obvious for him to bluster them away.
        Victoria’s debt is very high and, with his green economy faith, will soon be enormous. The State won’t be able to borrow anymore, the Federal govt. won’t want to know him, and he will have a choice of getting rid of a lot of public servants or provoking a rebellion which would result in him ‘falling down’ stairs. No – he will cash in his super and “do a runner”.

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        Gary S

        The hypocritical left who cheered on the defacement of statues of, arguably, the greatest navigator of all time – Captain James Cook, due to his alleged propensity for causing ‘division and discrimination’ will be celebrating the erection of a bronze monument to the very embodiment of division and discrimination. Difficult to believe they fall for this crap repeatedly.

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    John Connor II

    Update: China is erupting into a revolution

    https://youtu.be/vPRDLqggwQU

    And Schwab (the decks) wants China as a role model. I guess that WEF quote will be deleted asap. 🤣

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    David Maddison

    Interpreting Klaus Schwab’s comments from a pro-reason supporters point of view.

    Schwab is one scary individual.

    https://youtu.be/nKuz6JNQ2yI

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    yarpos

    The OECDs view of the long term economic prospects of various countries. Plug in your countries and parameters to compare. FWIW

    https://www1.compareyourcountry.org/long-term-economic-scenarios/en/0/c1528283767118+c1530864012204+c1530864028300+c1530944845410+c1530944884415/default/all/USA+AUS+CAN+CHE

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      Adellad

      Fascinating, but surely China’s GDP growth projections are a mix of wishful thinking and fantasy.

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      Kevin Kilty

      The employment or workforce participation figures for the USA are not currently correct (they are overstated) and the future workforce participation rate is very optimistic. I have my doubts about it all, at least for US.

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    Saighdear

    A Gordon for Me -Traditional Scottish Songs and what’s it got to do with US and Brandon? and the fall of the euro and pound?
    Aye, and whilst browsing at https://dianawest.net , this Gordon thingy came up and there is an English translation too. https://english.gordonua.com/news/newsenglish/weakening-of-european-economies-encourages-strengthening-of-new-currencies-serhiy-tron-1629484.html Harry Potter film part was made in/ at the Black ROck GOrge in the Highlands, I’m told, so the name sticks. but in this article there is mention of WHITE Rock commenting on the fall of the euro and pound ….. Yes for sure and whilst having a laugh with JohnPAul Watson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YcGNY8T1Q8 , it all does really make you want to do in polite company what the german fuss ball team did ( Hand over mouth when bowking )
    I’ve had enough for the day, it’s 9C and good sunshine – so I’m back out to make the most of Autumn in Winter. The Stotts in the Court are enjoying the weather too, basking in the open Gable end and the cattle lying , for once on the dry slope of the Braeface after all that rain we’ve had. Stags nae so sure, still hovering around the roadside waiting for a bale of Silage but getting a fair bit in the undergrowth and attracting the Towrists, as The Bogan used to say.

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      Adellad

      I’d gladly swap climate right now as we head into the most disgusting of all seasons here in southern Oz. With luck it shall be cooler, like the last three. Otherwise if/when there are forecast days >40, it’s packing up the family and the dog (OK, she is family) and heading to the far SE coast, around Cape Northumberland. It’s reliably 10-20 degrees cooler there by day.

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    Saighdear

    The Bogan – an after thought. a Local welcome & friendly Character here, many years ago now, but I didn’t know all this:https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=The+Bogan&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&tpsf=openc ; so better look again, at this [Google search results for The Bogan Comedian]
    ENJOY!

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    John Connor II

    Greta wants you to get the vaxx to stop climate change

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1596778119939076096

    I think she should have the full range…

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    “There’s no emergency” – dissident climatologist Dr Judith Curry on climate change

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBdmppcfixM

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    Lance

    Looking like an early, very cold, winter in NH.
    Highest snow extent in 56 years thus far.
    Any hope for a mild winter for UK, EU, or North America, would seem dashed.

    https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/snow-extent-northern-hemisphere-highest-56-years-winter-cold-rrc/

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      MrGrimNasty

      There is a big pool of very cold air in Russia and an easterly wind is likely to develop over the UK into December as a big anticyclone establishes, but initially it looks like it will not be far enough over so mixing in air from the south, cool but not perishing for the UK. But it only takes a small change to drastically change our air mass source.

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    Honk R Smith

    Observed this AM on highway, minivan with message painted on the windows …

    “Make vasectomies mandatory”

    I thought …
    ‘hauling a pretty serious pair to scrawl that on your vehicle and drive into town’.

    I think they’re coming for us boys, the new phase in the gender war.

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      Chad

      If you recognise that world overpopulation IS the real threat to the planet…
      … then that message has a lot going for it .!

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        Chad

        PS..
        Vasectomy, has NOTHING to do with gender definition !
        …and everthing to do eith responsible sexual behaviour.

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        Adellad

        Overpopulation as you put it occurs only in Africa and to a lesser extent, South and SE Asia. Wouldn’t it be wacist to suggest they depopulate?

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    Robber

    In Victoriastan, the billionaires now fund the Teals, who are Labor elites, the Unions and Union-run Superfunds and government ads paid for by us finance Labor, and business is now too scared to fund the Liberals. Labor outspent the Liberals 6:1 on election advertising. Will IBAC now release their findings?

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      Ross

      Teals were recently described as “Greens in Gucci”.

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        Greg in NZ

        Saved a screenshot from the weekend Australian Bureau of Communism which ran a headline about Melbournistani Greens increasing their ‘footpring’.

        I know sub-editors are in short supply worldwide, as well as churnalists who can spell, but thought maybe this ‘footpring’ thing is colloquial slang, unique to Vicdumbistanis. Can anyone please enlighten this non-Stryne-speaking Koywoy? 😃

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    David Maddison

    Even given the Vicdanistan Liberals were pathetic and leaderless, people should still have voted for them and the pro-freedom parties because it would be still better than Andrews.

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    David Maddison

    Last time the Feds stopped Daniel Andrews of Vicdanistan participating in the Chi-comm “Belt and Road Initative”. This time the Feds are aligned with the Chi-comms. Nothing will stop him now.

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    David Maddison

    Australian Governments of all flavours are spending far more than is being generated by taxes. It won’t end well.

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      el+gordo

      Hold your nerve, its par for the course, global debt has passed $300 trillion.

      By the way, I like your idea on the previous thread of communicating a talking point within two minutes.

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    David Maddison

    In the interests of not employing people based on their gender, Daniel Andrews has specifically employed people based on their gender. Let that sink in…

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    MrGrimNasty

    Bin chickens and cane toads? Is this true?
    Oh well, your enemy’s enemy and all that.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-63699884

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    another ian

    Col Douglas MacGregor on Ukraine

    https://youtu.be/dfgF4x7TCmM

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    Ross

    For the Labor, Greens and Teal parties your political philosophy is easy. You jump on every “woke” political subject and promote the hell out of it. It’s the formula Daniel Andrews has been using for years and it’s the formula Albanese/Fed Labor are also now utilising. It’s what Biden and Democrats have also been doing. So that’s climate change (green energy etc ), LGBTIQA+ ( or whatever the latest acronym is), POC/ BLM issues, aboriginal rights (The Voice/that horrible term “First Nations), gender fluidity, social media publicity and a stack more. You recruit people into the party that are young and motivated, so that any new voters appeal to those candidates. Apply the precautionary principle to those subjects and never do risk/ benefit analysis. But the ultimate woke subject now emerging would appear to be socialism. Who better to promote that as one of your policies- people who are already socialists. To combat that and gain some political power back, the only way is to go hard in the opposite direction. That’s possibly what the likes of the GOP, British Conservatives and the Australian LNP parties should do. Point out the craziness of all those subjects and in particular the mistruths. Get a bunch of equivalent young people to combat and debate all those subjects in the public arena. Either that, or go even more ultra “woke” than the left of centre parties. If that’s the case then we are all cooked.

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    David Brown

    The only Dan I trust is Dan Murphy.

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    another ian

    “One Flu Out Of The Wuhan Nest”

    This has several links to “Things Covid”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2022/11/27/one-flu-out-of-the-wuhan-nest-73/

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    el+gordo

    Joe Bastardi warns of a bitterly cold Europe, similar to the 1970s.

    His method of forecasting is different to the pure modellers.

    https://notrickszone.com/2022/11/27/ace-forecaster-bastardi-somethig-we-used-to-see-in-1970s-warns-of-spectacular-cold/

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      Greg in NZ

      That temp anomaly map of Joe’s for the N.H. for the next few weeks shows the Arctic is on fire! Orange, red, burnt brown – we’ve finally BURNED the Arctic Ocean! Bring out yer sackcloth, throw dirt in your hair, wail, the end is nigh…

      Enough of the borax, back to reason: So instead of being -20C in the Arctic, it’s -10C. I may not be a rocket scientist, nor a climate scientist [sic], but I do know 10-below is what is otherwise known as ‘freezing’ cold. Methinks Professor Peter Wadhams is going to have to wait yet ANOTHER year (or longer) before the Arctic Ocean is ‘ice-free’.

      Do solar panels work underneath snow drifts? Do windmills turn when they’re frozen stiff? Do cold, hungry people get angry when they run out of batteries…

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        el+gordo

        Its a classic example of polar amplification, a warmer Arctic causes a decline in midlatitude winter temperatures, but because of the meandering jet stream and blocking high pressure the NH winter 2022-23 is uneven. North America and China should feel the brunt of any cold air outbreaks.

        This is essentially a battle between the modellers and anti-modellers.

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      el+gordo

      Judah Cohen (AER) doesn’t see any cold snap.

      ‘it is looking increasingly likely that an elongated or stretched polar vortex that favors colder temperatures east of the Rockies and East Asia (but does not have a strong signal for Europe) will continue in the coming weeks.’

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      el+gordo

      AccuWeather meteorologists are predicting a ‘warmer-than-average winter in northeastern Europe and Scandinavia.

      ‘Periods of unsettled and chilly weather will be likely at times, but numerous atmospheric factors point toward temperatures trending on the warm side across the region, and fewer snow days are anticipated compared to typical years.’

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    OldOzzie

    Proof Positive Australia is populated by Idiots – No Wonder Labor/Greens/Teals get elected

    ‘I’m sick of this’: Adelaide dad’s $240,000, 18-month Tesla nightmare

    An Adelaide dad is considering legal action against Elon Musk’s Tesla after an 18-month nightmare.

    An Adelaide dad is considering legal action against Elon Musk’s Tesla after an 18-month nightmare with his $220,000 Powerwall solar energy installation.

    Chris Firgaira, 33, says he is at the end of his tether and simply wants a refund from the electric car giant, which has failed to fix ongoing problems with his off-grid battery set up for the past year-and-a-half.

    The IT expert had the 10-battery system installed in early 2020 in order to power both his small business and family home from the property.

    But Mr Firgaira says the system has caused nothing but headaches since day one, with “100 to 200 power outages” in the first two months alone – sometimes lasting up to eight hours – numerous burnt-out devices and tens of thousands of dollars in lost income.

    “It’s super stressful for the family,” the father-of-three said.

    “It was never mentioned that was a risk for us. It’s not something I would wish upon anyone. We’ve had whole nights where we’ve had no power, the system could not get online. We’ve had to send workers home, had business interrupted.”

    [snip too long]

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      David Maddison

      Now, imagine that disaster scaled up to a whole grid.

      Electricity in Australia will become like it is in Third World countries. Sometimes you have it. Sometimes you don’t.

      Indeed, Australia will become a Third World country.

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      farmerbraun

      ” . . .outdoor sports adventure business Archery Attack was severely impacted by Covid, estimates that he has lost at least “three or four weeks” of full-time government IT consulting work. . . .”

      Hmmmm.

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      Chad

      But the 130kWh system only cost him $70,000… a bargain ,!

      He went with a verified Tesla installer to set up the system, comprising “$220,000 of batteries, solar panels and wiring”. Of that, $150,000 was from a South Australian government-backed solar loan, with another $70,000 in cash.

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    OldOzzie

    OldOzziesays:
    November 28, 2022 at 8:03 am
    Speedboxsays:
    November 27, 2022 at 5:47 pm

    Do we think the vehicle manufacturers need much more convincing? This changeover presents opportunities that Henry Ford could have only dreamt. That’s why the manufacture of new ICE cars will generally stop no later than 2035 and in some cases, before (except for a very few niche manufacturers).

    Russia will have enough Brains, especially due to their Climate to keep manufacturing of ICE Cars & Trucks, and what has not been addressed is that Africa, Middle East & Asia will not have the EV infrastructure in place, and will continue to need ICE Vehicles

    Only Western Governments are Stupid enough to destroy their own Societies.

    Japan Toyota CEO has enough Brains to realise that Reality

    Toyota’s CEO Says EV Adoption Will Take Longer Than Expected

    Carmaker will continue to make hybrids, gas-powered models
    Chief Toyoda says company to offer wide array of options

    &

    Toyota CEO Says Moving to All EVs Would Leave Some Customers Behind

    The comments by Akio Toyoda come as Toyota faces pressure to show it isn’t falling behind in the industry’s electric-vehicle race

    &

    Toyota Warns (Again) About Electrifying All Autos. Is Anyone Listening?

    ‘Bleeding obvious’: Toyota CEO says California ban on gas-powered car sales ‘difficult’

    October 02, 2022 – 12:21PM

    Sky News host Rowan Dean says the CEO of Toyota has stated the “bleeding obvious” by revealing it will be “difficult” to achieve California’s plan to ban the sale of new gas-powered vehicles by 2035.

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    another ian

    Willis E looks at

    “Sea Ice Mysteries”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/11/27/sea-ice-mysteries/

    “Here’s the strangest part. Despite the failure of the many predictions of an “ice-free Arctic”, despite the falsified claims that we’ve passed a “tipping point”, despite the fact that the reasons for the curious and unexpected changes in the polar sea ice cannot be explained by anyone and the changes weren’t predicted by anyone … climate scientists STILL insist that they can tell us what the global temperature will be like in the year 2100.

    You are free to believe those failed serial doomcasters if you wish.

    Me … hard pass. I’ve seen too many of their predictions crash and burn.”

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    OldOzzie

    School indoctrination is turning British youth woke – and Tories remain silent

    Those under 26 are increasingly under the sway of cultural socialism, and not tackling it is producing a strongly Left-wing generation

    Britain is becoming more illiberal and unpatriotic as today’s increasingly woke young people become voters.

    What I term cultural socialism – the desire to engineer equal outcomes and protect minority identity groups from psychological harm – all too often takes priority for Gen-Z and Millennials over historic British values such as freedom of speech, objective truth and attachment to the nation’s historical accomplishments.

    Contrary to the fairy tales Conservative politicians tell themselves, these young people will not change their views as they pass through milestones like taking a job, owning a home, or having children. The woke revolution is cultural, not material.

    Consider the findings of my recent Policy Exchange reports on the politics of young Britons and public opinion on culture war issues. Among survey respondents under 26, more were opposed to than supportive of the vice-chancellor of Sussex University’s defence of the academic freedom of gender-critical philosopher Kathleen Stock, who was hounded by a mob of campus trans activists. This age group is evenly divided between those who want J K Rowling dropped by her publisher and those who think she should stay, or between those who want Churchill’s statue to be removed or for it to remain in Parliament Square. By contrast, those over 50 support Rowling and Churchill by an overwhelming 85 to five margin.

    Young people are influenced by social media, but schools play an important part in reinforcing woke beliefs. A clear majority of British schoolchildren are being indoctrinated with cultural socialist ideas. Among the 18-year-olds I sampled, 63 per cent were taught or heard from an adult at school about at least one of “white privilege”, “unconscious bias” or “systemic racism” – three concepts derived from critical race theory. If we include radical feminist ideas such as “patriarchy” or the idea of many genders, this rises to 78 per cent.

    Those who have been taught more of these critical social justice (CSJ) ideas are more likely to favour political correctness as a way of protecting disadvantaged groups, rather than viewing PC as stifling free expression.

    Those young people who dissent from orthodoxy do so at their own risk, and the Equity, Diversity and Inclusion (EDI) agenda forces them to self-censor. A majority of Right-leaning young people who said they were taught at least three of five CSJ concepts worried about being expelled or punished for voicing their opinions. Nearly half of Right-leaning employees under 35 who have taken diversity training worry about being fired or losing their reputation.

    Peer pressure is often immense, adding to institutional sanctions. The vast majority of young people support Remain, and only a third of Remainer youth say they would date a Leave supporter. Those who discriminate in dating are also far more likely to discriminate in hiring. Eight in 10 young Remainers who say they would be “very uncomfortable” dating a Leaver say, all else being equal, that they would favour a Remainer over a Leaver for a job.

    Description above, perfect for Australia!

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      b.nice

      “is producing a strongly Left-wing generation”….

      Which will totally destroy their own futures and the futures of their children

      [snip. LVA]

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    el+gordo

    The blame game.

    ‘Coal miners mount fight with government as they deny role in rising power bills.

    ‘The Australian Energy Regulator says the high cost of export coal has pushed power bills up, but coal miners facing price caps lay the blame on gas and renewables.’ (SMH)

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    another ian

    Willis E looks at

    “Sea Ice Mysteries”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/11/27/sea-ice-mysteries/

    “Here’s the strangest part. Despite the failure of the many predictions of an “ice-free Arctic”, despite the falsified claims that we’ve passed a “tipping point”, despite the fact that the reasons for the curious and unexpected changes in the polar sea ice cannot be explained by anyone and the changes weren’t predicted by anyone … climate scientists STILL insist that they can tell us what the global temperature will be like in the year 2100.

    You are free to believe those failed serial doomcasters if you wish.

    Me … hard pass. I’ve seen too many of their predictions crash and burn.”

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    OldOzzie

    Queensland faces ‘significant’ wellbeing decline if it doesn’t quickly transition to renewables, report says

    Deloitte warns that the biggest risk to jobs in the state is a carbon-fuelled economy

    A Queensland government-commissioned report by Deloitte says there could be “significant” declines in wellbeing, assets left stranded and a stagnating economy if the state doesn’t quickly transition to renewables.

    The report by the global accounting giant, obtained under the state’s right to information regime, also suggests Queensland could have a bright economic future should it rapidly decarbonise in coordination with the rest of the world.

    The New Futures, New Resources report says there “is no middle ground”, and the state must be open to a “whatever it takes approach” to adjust for “structural disruption”, or its biggest industry could face “rapid decline”.

    Climate campaigners who obtained the internal document said the Palaszczuk government could no longer “walk both sides of the street on climate change and fossil fuels”.

    Brisbane-based clean energy and climate campaigner at the Australian Conservation Foundation, Jason Lyddieth, applauded the government’s “ambitious and forward thinking plan to get Queensland off coal domestically and set us up to be a renewable energy powerhouse”.

    “But on the other hand they still talk up the long-term prospects of coal and gas exports,” he said.

    “The [Deloitte] report is unequivocal that Queensland must rapidly decarbonise and play a constructive role in the global effort to get off coal and gas. If that happens, Queensland will have a thriving future.”

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    another ian

    “And here we go again” – cranking up “The Covid Hurdy-Gurdy”

    “New COVID Variant Drama, Anthony Fauci “Not Sure” if States Will Need to Lockdown Schools Again
    November 27, 2022 | Sundance | 93 Comments”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/11/27/new-covid-variant-drama-anthony-fauci-not-sure-if-states-will-need-to-lockdown-schools-again/

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    OldOzzie

    Global chip shortage expected to drag on – Bosch

    The deficit is mainly due to the rapidly growing electric vehicles industry, the engineering giant Bosch has warned

    The global semiconductor shortage will continue to affect the auto industry until 2024 as chip suppliers cannot meet procurement demands, executive vice-president of Bosch China Xu Daquan has said.

    He told China Daily this week that the main reason for the shortage is the rapid growth of the new energy vehicle industry.

    Bosch is one of the world’s biggest auto parts suppliers, providing intelligent driving solutions for carmakers, including chassis control systems.

    Its Chinese operation is reportedly looking for domestic raw materials suppliers, but has yet to find one for mass production. The company expects more domestic chip suppliers to achieve large-scale and high-quality production in the next two or three years.

    According to Auto Forecast Solutions, cited in the report, the global car market slashed production by about 3.91 million vehicles due to chip shortages in the first ten months of this year. Nearly 4.28 million units are projected to be cut for the whole year.

    The global chip shortage that started during the Covid-19 pandemic has caused severe supply issues and delays with the automotive and other industries.

    The conflict in Ukraine has aggravated the problem. Global prices for neon and xenon gasses have surged since Ukrainian suppliers Ingas and Cryoin, which deliver about 50% of the world’s neon gas for semiconductor uses, stopped production. Russia reportedly supplies up to 30% of the neon consumed globally. China and Japan are other major producers of noble gasses, but their supplies are mainly consumed domestically.

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      John Connor II

      Actually, as I said before, shortages are due to the car industry being a generation behind current tech and the chip manufacturers don’t want to support legacy tech so they focus of pc’s, smartphones, gaming etc which use state of the art tech.
      The car industry has caused its own problem.

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    OldOzzie

    Charging ahead quietly and cleanly

    Rumbling diesel Bushmaster engines could one day be a thing of the past, replaced by the quiet hum of electronics, following the unveiling of a battery-powered prototype at the Chief of Army Symposium on August 10.

    Known as the ePMV, its engine and gearbox have been replaced with a pair of lithium-ion batteries and an electric motor driving each axle.

    It’s the first Australian electrification of a military vehicle and is about 2 tonne lighter than a regular Bushmaster.

    The centre of gravity has also moved rearwards and down, according to Colonel Robin Smith, director of Army’s Robotic and Autonomous Systems Implementation and Coordination Office.

    “That helps with stability, high-speed and cross-country manoeuvre, and safety under braking,” Colonel Smith said.

    “It’s wickedly fast and we’ll be trialling speeds. But in theory it will do 0-60km/h in a little over three seconds. For a 12-tonne vehicle that’s amazing. Up to 100km/h will take about 12 seconds where the normal Bushmaster takes 42 seconds.”

    The first version has about a 100km range, but a planned larger battery should increase this to 350km. There’s also work to mount small external generators, increasing the range to about 1000km.

    It features high-speed charging, like a Tesla, filling the battery in about three hours or via a household plug in about seven hours. Colonel Smith said the several power outlets on the vehicle could be used for command posts and field workshops.

    “The vehicle’s battery power could run the average Australian home for just over six days,” he said.

    Que? – “The vehicle’s battery power could run the average Australian home for just over six days,”

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      Graeme No.3

      120kWh capacity. Wouldn’t think that could move a 12 tonne vehicle very far.

      And if they have to install a bigger (heavier) battery then all those specs. will need to be revised (downwards except the cost).

      And where are they going to get the crew to drive this thing into battle? Known propensity for fireball.

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    Ando

    According to the best counter-indicator in politics, Malcolm Turdball, the Vic Libs lost because they were taken over by the “Hard Right”…

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    OldOzzie

    https://ia801903.us.archive.org/5/items/DecodingNaziSecrets/NOVA.S26E14.Decoding.Nazi.Secrets.1999.DVDRip.DD2.0.x264-astro.mp4

    Watch the start – Germans were thorough in Training – Wireless Operators Training

    1:51:58

    Have downloaded H.264 – 672 Mb for transfer to external hard drive and watch on Big Screen TV

    On Amazon prime purchased The Imitation Game last night

    THE IMITATION GAME is a dramatic portrayal of the life and work of one of Britain’s most extraordinary unsung heroes, Alan Turing. Based on the real life story of Alan Turing, who is credited with cracking the German Enigma code, THE IMITATION GAME portrays the nail-biting race against time by Turing and his brilliant team at Britain’s top-secret code-breaking centre.

    Starring Benedict Cumberbatch, Charles Dance, Matthew Goode

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    OldOzzie

    Arkysays:
    November 28, 2022 at 11:37 am
    Anyone thought of this:

    If we no longer use petrol and diesel for cars, and if bitumen is a byproduct of fossil fuel use, then what will future roads be made out of?

    Is there some massive supply of bitumen seperate from the supply of the fuels distilled out of it?
    If we are still going to make roads for electric cars to travel on out of bitumen, what are we going to do with the diesel, kero and petrol fractions? Chuck them down the drain?

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      OldOzzie

      Arkysays:

      November 28, 2022 at 11:47 am

      Bitumen, like conventional crude oil, is useful only once it has been refined to transport fuels (or petrochemicals). Unlike conventional crude oil, oilsands-derived bitumen cannot be easily transported in its native recovered state, except in heated pipelines or railcars over limited distances. Generally speaking, there are four approaches that can be followed to transport and convert bitumen, which differ based on logistics and infrastructure requirements:

      a. Transport the bitumen by pipeline to a crude oil refinery designed to process heavy crude oil and refine the bitumen with other crude oils to final products. The bitumen on its own is too viscous to be transported by pipeline and it has to be diluted to increase fluidity. The diluents employed are petroleum-derived naphtha and natural gas condensates. A mixture of 25:75 diluent and bitumen can be transported by pipeline and it is called ‘dilbit’, or diluted bitumen [1]. In the winter months the ratio required for sufficient fluidity can be as high as 35:65 diluent to bitumen ratio. The main advantages of producing dilbit is that it can exploit existing heavy oil refining capacity and it requires little additional capital investment at the production site beyond that needed to produce the bitumen. The main disadvantages of this approach are that it reduces pipeline capacity by (25–35) % and it requires a return pipeline for the diluent in order to produce the dilbit.

      b. Partially upgrade the bitumen close to the production site to meet pipeline specifications and then transport the upgraded bitumen by pipeline to a heavy oil refinery to produce final products. Ideally the bitumen can be upgraded at the production site using a field upgrader. Only a limited degree of thermal upgrading (visbreaking) is required to make the bitumen fluid enough to be suitable for pipeline transport. However, the application of field upgrading has thus far been undermined by product stability, which is related to the impracticality of economically producing H2 on small scale, or technology that can address product stability without H2. The main advantage of this approach compared to the production of dilbit is that the upgraded bitumen does not require diluent to be transported. In other respects, it is very similar to dilbit production.

      c. Partially upgrade the bitumen close to the production site to produce a light synthetic crude oil, which can then be transported by pipeline to a conventional oil refinery to produce final products. Bitumen can be transported over short distances and then be upgraded in a centralised large-scale upgrader that is further away from the production site. Centralised upgraders are oil refineries that produce an intermediate product, often called ‘synthetic crude oil’ (SCO). The SCO resembles benchmark crude oils and can be refined in most crude oil refineries designed to refine light crude oils. The main advantages of producing SCO are the higher realisation price versus selling unprocessed bitumen and that the product does not require diluent to be transported by pipeline, thus reducing overall operating costs. A further advantage is that SCO does not have to be processed in heavy crude oil refineries and most existing conventional crude oil refining capacity can be exploited. The main disadvantages of this approach are that centralised upgraders are capital intensive and that the well-to-wheels environmental footprint associated with SCO production, transport and remote refining is larger when compared to single site refining of the bitumen to final products.

      d. Refine bitumen close to the production site to produce final products. This is not an alternative that has thus far been seriously considered or implemented, unless Edmonton is considered as ‘close’ (400 km) to the oilsands production sites. The key difference between upgrading and refining is the nature of the products that are produced and sold. In an upgrader, the product is an upgraded crude oil that is sold to a refinery; in a refinery the products are transport fuels sold to the fuels distribution network. The main advantages of producing final products are that it enables maximum value addition to the feed and the products can be sold in the global transport fuel market. The main disadvantages of producing final products are that the marketing logistics is more complex, and it requires a high capital investment and it does not exploit existing idle refining capacity. Further, it is not clear that the incremental increase in product value can offset the additional capital and operating cost associated with bitumen to final product refining in a new facility

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/bitumen

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        Graeme No.3

        OldOzzie:
        There is a ‘lake’ of bitumen in Trinidad. Solid enough for it to be mined and sold in sacks. Major uses (45 years ago) was for printing ink for newspapers and as solvent based black anti-corrosive paint (light duty type v. good in salt water). It was called Gilsonite and I think that came from deposits in the West of the USA.

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    OldOzzie

    Bar Beach Swimmersays:
    November 28, 2022 at 11:16 am
    For Speedbox:

    This is a list I put up on the old Cat.

    30 Famous Predictions That Couldn’t Have Been More Horribly Wrong

    https://www.buzznicked.com/horrible-predictions/

    1. Prediction: “There is not the slightest indication that nuclear energy will ever be obtainable. It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at will.”
    Who: Albert Einstein When: 1932

    2. Prediction: “We don’t like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out.”
    Who: Decca Recording Company on declining to sign the Beatles When: 1962

    3. Prediction: “This ‘telephone’ has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us.”
    Who: Western Union internal memo When: 1876

    4. Prediction: “Reagan doesn’t have that presidential look.”
    Who: United Artists executive after rejecting Reagan as lead in the film The Best Man When: 1964
    [Snip too long]

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      John Connor II

      #8 – renewables, lgbtqetc, WEF, Ukraine, Covid, vaxxes

      #25 – rockets have but no man has.

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      another ian

      “7. Prediction: “X-rays will prove to be a hoax.”
      Who: Lord Kelvin, President of the Royal Society When: 1883”

      Demonstrating from a long way back that even Royal Society pronouncements should be subject to “Nullius in Verna”

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        another ian

        Oops! “Verba”

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          Graeme No.3

          You left out some of his better one:
          Radio has no future.” “X-rays are clearly a hoax”.
          Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible.He was also against AC electricity.

          And still relevant to the AGW cult;
          Large increases in cost with questionable increases in performance can be tolerated only in race horses and fancy women.

          Nothing can be more fatal to progress than a too confident reliance on mathematical symbols; for the student is only too apt to take the easier course, and consider the formula not the fact as the physical reality.

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      robert rosicka

      #13 , been smoking cigs for 48 years and most of that a heavy smoker around 40 a day , mix of rollies and filtered . Is it good for you no , can it cause cancer absolutely yes it can just not everyone for some reason .

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    RicDre

    ‘Bitter Truth’: EU Parliament Told It Has Done ‘A Lot of Damage’ to Europe at Anniversary Event

    by PETER CADDLE

    Professor Ryszard Legutko, a Polish MEP who serves as head of the right-wing European Conservatives and Reformists group, has lambasted the European Parliament in particular as having done “a lot of damage” to the continent during an anniversary event for the EU body held on Tuesday.

    “[T]he bitter truth is that the European Parliament has done a lot of damage in Europe,” the Law and Justice party politician said amid gasps from the floor of the assembly.

    “It has been sending a false message it represents the European demos. There isn’t, and there won’t be any European demos,” he said, adding that it has “infected Europe with shameless partisanship and the infection became so contagious that it spread to other institutions such as the European Commission.”

    “The Parliament has become a political vehicle of the left to impose their monopoly with their fierce intolerance towards any dissenting view,” the MEP continued. “No matter how many times you repeat the word ‘diversity’. Diversity is becoming an extinct species in the European Union and particularly in this chamber.”

    “The idea that, say, Spanish, German, French, et cetera, deputies accountable to their own national electorates can dictate something to, shall we say, Hungarian society or any other society to which they cannot be held accountable and which cannot take them to task is simply preposterous,” he added.

    “Call it what you will, but democracy it is not.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/27/hold-bitter-truth-mp-tells-eu-parliament-has-done-lot-damage-continent-anniversary-event/

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    Neville

    AGAIN can anyone show us their so called EXISTENTIAL THREAT or Emergency or Crisis YET?
    Here’s Willis Eschenbach’s long list of different data and I can’t even find ONE problem that looks scary TODAY.
    We could add no HOT SPOT found above the equator, but I’d be interested if anything else could be added to this list.
    There are also about 40 problems from the barking MAD Malthusians that were a worry in 1970 and those fears also failed to show up. Big SURPRISE NOT.
    AGAIN why are Humans so much better off today?
    Never forget that there are 1 billion more people in Africa in 2022 and life expectancy has risen from 46 to 64 years since 1970. How is this possible?

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/04/25/wheres-the-emergency/

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    OldOzzie

    Shop in Democrat-Run Portland Closes After 15 Break-ins: ‘Our City Is in Peril’

    Marcy Landolfo, who owns the Rains PDX store in Democrat-run Portland, Oregon, is fed up after experiencing break-in number 15.

    Landolfo told KATU she decided to shut it down because, “The products that are being targeted are the very expensive winter products and I just felt like the minute I get those in the store they’re going to get stolen,” the outlet reported Saturday.

    She is also concerned for her employees’ safety and acknowledged, “The problem is, as small businesses, we cannot sustain those types of losses and stay in business. I won’t even go into the numbers of how much has been out of pocket.”

    A notice on the shop’s door said the location was permanently closed and told visitors to use the website instead.

    The notice also told customers:

    Our city is in peril. Small businesses (and large) cannot sustain doing business in our city’s current state. We have no protection or recourse against the criminal behavior that goes unpunished. Do not be fooled into thinking that insurance companies cover losses. We have sustained 15 break-ins. We have not received any financial reimbursement since the 3rd.

    Please do your part to support small businesses this holiday season and beyond. Please be vigilant in voting to make our city safe again.

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    Graham Richards

    If you need references as to what 3rd world energy supplies is all about I can provide dozens of contacts in South Africa, you know, the “ Rainbow Nation “, for first hand descriptions of “load shedding” which is code for blackout timetables . How about 6/8 hours per day.
    Add to that the promise of worse to come!,

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