As Scott Adams says “The cover up of the cover up is working”
Picking Presidents?
It’s the story of the century that isn’t selling many papers — how the FBI held onto the Hunter Biden Laptop-from-Hell for months and actively colluded with media outlets to suppress that news, all while US voters were deciding whether to vote for his father for President.
The FBI knew the Lap Top contained evidence of corruption of the highest order, yet chose not to investigate. They also knew the story would probably leak in October and were actively contacting Facebook and Twitter on a weekly basis before then to pre-empt it — so that the bad news could disappear and wouldn’t hurt their chosen candidate. When the FBI wanted news suppressed, the media giants “handled ” it in a flash. They could make whole newspapers disappear.
The real story of course, is still that the men with guns are deciding which crimes are worth investigating, what news you are allowed to read, and who the voters should vote for. This makes the USA a lot more like Cuba or Russia than anyone wants to think, and it matters to all of us — even outside the US. This dark influence is a black hole in the free world with event horizon out in space.
In the world we thought we lived in, this would be the lead story and day after day.
Who rules America? The Spies?
The DNC (Democrats) could also make the media giants sit up and pant, but when push comes to shove it’s hard to imagine how the Democrats would scare the FBI more than the FBI would scare the Democrats.
We know now the New York Post reporting on the laptop was correct before the US 2020 election, but Twitter not only blocked their account entirely — they stopped anyone sending direct messages with the link as well.
The Twitter Files and the silence of the hacks
Tom Slater, Spiked
The Hunter Biden story could well have changed the course of the 2020 election.
A political party using a Big Tech platform as its personal censor? A potentially consequential piece of journalism suppressed during an election? What happened to the Hunter Biden laptop story should take its place among the great free-speech and journalistic scandals of the 21st century. And yet much of the American media is still trying to downplay this debacle, and has responded to the Twitter Files with a mix of silence and derision.
On Twitter, elite journalists have gone after Taibbi, often using the same attack line – that he is ‘doing PR’ for Musk, who has been keen to expose the Hunter shenanigans since he took control of the company.
I’m no expert in US constitutional law, but this looks a lot like agents of the security state outsourcing censorship to the private sector.
We always knew the media was corrupt, sensationalist partisan hacks, but the bigger problem seems to be that the FBI are too, and they are vastly better at it.
Photo: Jamal Wilson
h/t Bill in AZ, David Maddison, Another Ian, John Connor II
Didn’t Eisenhower predict all this back in the ’50’s.
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Ronin.
President Eisenhower did predict things like this. But his warnings were misunderstood by many, others knew what he said but ignored him. And others set out to take advantage of his predictions.
The FBI is now out of public control and in bed with the left wing politicians. I do not believe that the FBI can be brought back to an honest public service agency. The only solution I see is to eliminate the FBI and transfer its legitimate functions to other existing agencies and departments that are able to be bipartisan and serve the public interests. This will not be easy. It cannot be done by the leftist Democrats, it cannot be done in collaboration with big industrial or social corporations, and it must be done by honest men and women who have the vision to create safeguards and penalties to keep the new organizations from inbreeding with the socialist Democrats.
I think the FBI an be eliminated and development of future corrupt departments, agencies, and organizations prevented if conservative patriots permanently monitor and correct the these organizations to prevent future corruption.
It is necessary to prevent regrowth of malignancies, so anti- malignancies procedures and responsibilities must be developed along with the reorganizations.
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https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/2022-12-06_06-22-04.jpg?itok=2QJcrFAp
The minstral in the cartoon caught my eye. The MSM media do like to make themselves out as the fountain of love. All the bitchiness is just necessary.
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New idea for a drama series about two sexy FBI partners …
not the ‘The X Files’ …
‘The Trump Files’.
‘The Truth is out there, and it must be suppressed.’
Episode after episode our heroes Page and Strzok, try to get the Orange Menace and the Wall Mart shoppers, but never quite succeed.
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I think that should be Wal … with one L.
I should know, I go there when I haven’t bathed.
Which is often.
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I wouldn’t have thought the US voters were this stupid and lets face it these donkeys have had year(s)to find out about the vile Hunter and the big guy.
Just amazing that so many still don’t understand and probably wouldn’t unless the proverbial outhouse fell on them.
Just unbelievable but true.
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In my years of travelling in the US, only the elites read newspapers. Most people watched TV for their news even three decades ago.
Today I expect they get their lazy free news from Twitter and Facebook. It costs nothing and you can read it anywhere
and it’s sensationalist entertainment. Even what was revolutionary CNN cable is dying. Cable TV is vanishing.
So censorship of news on social media is devastating for the vast majority of voters. And FBI censorship as a part of the government is doubly devastating. That any branch of the government should be policing the news is the stuff of communism.
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And an armed 40 man FBI raid on the home of the last President of the United States is beyond belief. Were there armed para military raids on any other president’s home in history? Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter,..?
I find it beyond belief that the DOJ/FBI are attacking their political enemies with armed raids. And without explanation.
Or that the head of the FBI Comey walked into the Oval office wearing a wire? Or that his men swore international spying by Trump’s team so they could tap their phones during an election campaign, all traceable to the Clintons?
Why is no one being prosecuted for lying in writing repeatedly to the FISA court, bypassing the protection of the US constitution against spying on US citizens?
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40 people went to jail over Watergate, a bungled attempt to tap opposition telephone calls during an election.
But no one has even been charged over the successful spying on Donald Trump’s campaign. Or the fake charging of members of Trump’s team. They are even threatening to charge Trump himself, again. We all know who was bribing the Ukrainians but that’s all in the laptop. Billions of dollars.
Trump is genuinely rich. But how did a nothing backbencher like Biden make his family multi millionaires on a salary of $140,000 a year? Hard work? What is certain is that the DNC and the FBI are NOT interested in the Biden family. They fought too hard to get them elected and where dad goes, his son follows. 24 trips on Air Force One.
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You are correct on the ignorance of the Progressive Left in the USA that vote Democrat. They are ignorant because they refuse to accept any viewpoint, even with factual evidence, if it doesn’t come from one of their sources. The government just got caught controlling this fascist-like messaging, but they don’t care because it serves their short sighted purpose of hating all things brought about by Trump. It’s confirmation bias on steroids, and watching the 2022 elections I have little faith that these people will figure it out until their world comes crashing down on their heads. It’s coming now on inflation, raised gas prices, raised energy prices for HVAC due to Green New Deal nonsense, etc. etc. I now go by the ‘Never underestimate the stupidity of humans’. We all see it play our everyday, and all we can do is try to educate. Good luck, because it is exhausting!
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The Left are not “progressive” but “regressive” back to a darker time.
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For many people all it takes for them to dismiss something like the laptop from heck story, is that it’s a CT put forth by CTs. The MO of the Swamp has been and continues to be, to lable counter narratives as CT, and those who report them as CTs. It works. Goebbels couldn’t be prouder.
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You have high hopes of a population where apparently 7% believe that chocolate milk comes from brown cows…LOL. Not that the Schiz Australian population is much better mind you…
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It is mostly corruption in the voting process and procedures that are corrupt. The socialist democrats have stolen the 2020 and 2022 elections. The honest people in the Republican Party, in the Judiciary, and the small number of honest people in the socialist democrats must work out the reforms and corruption. Honest monitoring must be done and and dishonest tricks and actions reported to the people. Finally strict and honest judicial actions must be quickly taken to remove any new developing malignancies.
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The FBI is certainly different to its fantasy portrayal in the TV series “The F.B.I.”, (1965–1974) starring Efrem Zimbalist Jr.
And the Mafia had certain highly compromising blackmail photos* of J. Edgar Hoover.
*Reference:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-02-06-mn-1078-story.html
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True, but compared to the FBI series currently running on CBS since September, 2018, the 1965 series was a paragon of accuracy.
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And, CBS, who now own the 10 network here in Oz, have been arch statists, with the customary left-wing objectives, since the early 1960s, at least.
The other networks just play “catch-up”.
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FBI TV Series promo from 1971.
https://youtu.be/lMJCsRVlyUY (1min)
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It was good entertainment. It was the next iteration of cowboys and indians.
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“We know now the New York Times reporting on the lap top was correct before the US 2020 election”
The New York Post published the Hunter Biden laptop story right before the 2022 election. The New York Times did everything they could to discredit to story until finally admitting that it was true in March 2022:
https://nypost.com/2022/03/17/the-times-finally-admits-hunter-bidens-laptop-is-real/
[*OhNo! I did not think I could typo-that-up even at 4am. Saved by a volunteer editor this morning. -Thank you. – J]
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Oops,
I meant to say “right before the 2020 election”
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“We know now the New York Times reporting on the lap top was correct before the US 2020”. It was the New York Post that revealed the laptop story. The New York Times covered it up.
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Hi JoRe
“New York Times reporting ”
Wasn.t that the NY Post?
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“Washington Post, New York Times finally admit Hunter’s laptop is real — but only to protect Joe Biden some more”
https://nypost.com/2022/04/01/new-york-times-finally-admit-hunters-laptop-is-real-but-only-to-protect-joe-biden/
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In that link there is a picture of Biden Jr wearing a military dog tag. Presumably it’s from his navy days.
And yet his discharge from the US Navy was less than honourable after he failed a drug test and was positive for cocaine use.
Technically it wasn’t a “dishonourable discharge”. Obviously his influential and wealthy family made sure it was an “administrative discharge”, an option not available to non-Elites.
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Can you believe this just-published garbage from the Washington Compost?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/12/05/trump-2020-election-hunter-biden-laptop/
(Paywalled.)
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DM
From #7.1 as Mandy Rice Davies said “You’d expect them to say that, wouldn’t you?”
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“didn’t cost Trump the election”
If the aim wasn’t to affect who people might vote for in the election..
… then WHY did thy go to such lengths to hide the putrid details of Hunter & Jo Biden’s dealings. !
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Paywalled…pppfff…
One of the indefensible assertions that’s reemerged in recent days is that social media companies’ efforts to limit sharing of a New York Post story in October 2020 cost Donald Trump that year’s presidential election.
This is a long-standing claim, made newly salient with new Twitter owner Elon Musk’s release last week of internal documents about the decision to impose that limit. His intent was to suggest that pre-him Twitter was a place where conservative arguments were unfairly censored. But others, like former president Donald Trump, have gone further, suggesting that this action alone led to Joe Biden’s 2020 victory.
There’s no reason to believe this is true.
It is certainly the case that the narrow margins of victory enjoyed by Joe Biden in several states that year might have moved one way or the other had small things shifted. Close races are the bane of outside observers and a boon to campaign consultants — identifying any particular thing as decisive is impossible but claiming that any particular element was essential is easy. So there is no way to say, for example, that a counterfactual in which Twitter didn’t limit sharing of the Post’s story about Joe Biden’s son Hunter’s laptop wouldn’t have moved Arizona from benefiting Biden by 10,500 votes to giving Trump a slight advantage.
The point, though, is that there is no reason to think this would have happened.
First of all, exit polling shows that a central motivator for Biden voters was opposition to Trump. Trump voters were five times more likely to say their vote was driven by support for their own candidate rather than opposition to Biden; among Biden voters, about a third said that their vote was instead driven by opposition to Trump. This was apparent from polling well before the election, too: Biden benefited heavily from being someone other than the broadly disliked incumbent president. Had more people seen the Post’s story about Hunter Biden on Twitter, it’s not clear that this would have actually inclined people to have switched to supporting Trump, though it might conceivably have dampened enthusiasm to come out and vote for Biden.
But there’s no evidence that the restriction imposed by Twitter (or Facebook) actually kept interested people from learning about the story. Consider one metric by which we can evaluate interest in Hunter Biden: Google search interest.
The Post report was the paper’s cover story on Oct. 14, 2020. It first tweeted about the story soon after papers landed at newsstands in New York City, about 5 a.m. The first reports that Facebook was limiting sharing of the story emerged a bit before noon; reports about Twitter doing so emerged in the early afternoon.
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Continued:
It was only after the social media companies moved to restrict sharing of the story that search interest began to climb. The peak came in the early evening, at which point searches in the U.S. were five times what they’d been in the morning.
For the next few weeks, the New York Post’s reporting about Hunter Biden — with new reports not being restricted and the original story similarly unlocked — was available for consumption, now with the distinction of having been deemed unacceptably dangerous. Through the rest of October, search interest in Hunter Biden remained well above where it had been before the Post’s first report.
Then there’s the poll that Trump and his allies love to cite. In late November 2020, the right-wing organization Media Research Center (MRC) — a group predicated on presenting the traditional media as inherently oppositional to conservative politics — released the results of a poll in which it claimed that blocking the story cost Trump the election.
“According to our poll,” the organization wrote a few weeks after Trump lost, “full awareness of the Hunter Biden scandal would have led 9.4% of Biden voters to abandon the Democratic candidate, flipping all six of the swing states he won to Trump, giving the President 311 electoral votes.”
(That “9.4%” is telling on its own; using tenths of a percent is a common tactic to imply additional certainty. How are you going to assert that 9.4 percent is significantly more precise than 9 percent using a tool with a margin of sampling error of 2.3 percent? But I digress.)
What’s important here is the question that was asked. The MRC shared a summary of the poll findings, that includes the question:
“At the time you cast your vote for president, were you aware that evidence exists, including bank transactions the FBI is currently investigating, that directly links Joe Biden and his family to a corrupt financial arrangement between a Chinese company with connections to the Chinese Communist Party that was secretly intended to provide the Biden family with tens of millions of dollars in profits?”
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Continued:
This is not a supportable presentation of the situation now, much less than.
In March, after finally obtaining material that purported to originate on Hunter Biden’s laptop, The Washington Post explored what was known about Hunter Biden’s efforts to do business in China. There’s no question that the younger Biden used his last name to his financial advantage, certainly. However, there is no evidence that it’s fair to lump together “Joe Biden and his family” in this context, and this paper’s review of the material also found no evidence that the current president would have benefited from, or even knew about, the proposed deal.
All of that aside, though, notice the presumption undergirding the MRC assertion: that this claim about Biden could simply have been presented to voters and they’d have changed their minds. That this was some truth sitting out there, obscured by Twitter, and had only these voters seen it, they’d have changed their minds.
This isn’t how politics works. Not only was some version of this argument out there, so were its rebuttals. There was no reason for an undecided voter acting in good faith to assume the presentation above was true at the time of the election and no reason to think that, had they been looking for election information, they wouldn’t have heard some version of it. In fact, 6 in 10 of those polled by the MRC said they were aware that Twitter and Facebook had limited this information — dramatically weakening the idea that they simply were in the dark about some reality.
Political campaigns often ask questions like the one above to gauge how effective a message might be. But they then also offer counterarguments, likely responses that would be certain to emerge in the actual campaign back-and-forth. That helps them determine how to approach controversies and attacks. What the MRC did was, instead, a push poll of the rankest sort. It was as if you asked people if they would change their vote if they learned that the candidate they supported was an alien from the planet Toxicus.
According to the summary document of the poll, 4 percent of those who were unaware of the facts as articulated above would have flipped from Biden to Trump, had they “known.” Another 5 percent wouldn’t have voted and 4 percent would have voted third party. Compare that with another question asked by the MRC’s pollsters: if people had known how good job creation was from May to September 2020 — that is, in the period after the initial pandemic shutdowns. In that case, 5 percent would have flipped from Biden to Trump, 2 percent wouldn’t have voted at all and 2 percent voted third party.
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Final:
In other words, in polling terms, there was no statistical difference in how people might have changed their vote after learning jobs numbers versus the claims about Biden and China. Were those jobs numbers muffled by Twitter? Instead of thinking this poll shows how the Hunter Biden story could have changed the election, it’s safer to view it as simply measuring how likely people are to say they would have changed their minds for nearly any reason.
All of this is beside the point of this debate. The point of the debate is, instead, to cast “elites” in the media and technology as inherently oppositional to Republican candidates, meaning, in 2020, Trump. This is a visceral argument, not a rational one, so pointing out that there’s no evidentiary basis for the claim is fighting the wrong fight.
Given that Trump is using this as a basis for throwing out the Constitution, though, does seem to make an articulation of the flaws in the argument worthwhile.
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As has happened many times before, people on one side are supporting persecution of their opponents simply because they are their opponents, NOT because they believe the accusations are true. The side trumps the principle; anything goes so long as ‘our side’ wins.
But such people should look a little closer at history, for they will find that, once the other side has been defeated, those powerful enforcers start to look for new targets, often swiveling 180 degrees to search within their own ranks for enemies who are not deemed pure enough, or working hard enough for the cause.
Eventually, the people who looked away or even cheered as the guillotine blade fell on another hapless victim, find themselves before the ‘people’s court’.
When we remove the checks on absolute power, the slide into totalitarianism begins and what follows is usually hell.
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Indeed Steve. The Left has a very good history of eating its own.
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Just ask Robespierre…
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Talk about election interference. Trump would likely have won the election even with the extensive election fraud against him had the FBI and social(ist) and legacy media not interfered with the election.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/24/poll-one-in-six-biden-voters-would-have-changed-their-vote-if-they-had-known-about-scandals-suppressed-by-media/
Poll: One In Six Biden Voters Would Have Changed Their Vote If They Had Known About Scandals Suppressed By Media
BY: JORDAN BOYD
NOVEMBER 24, 2020
https://www.theepochtimes.com/shock-poll-8-in-10-think-biden-laptop-cover-up-changed-election_4683592.html
Shock Poll: 8 in 10 Think Biden Laptop Coverup Changed Election
Paul Sperry
August 23, 2022 Updated: August 28, 2022
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But the problem with that theory is that they were always going to fabricate the necessary votes one way or the other.
Why did they shut down the counting in the key places simultaneously? Because they found out that they were going to lose and needed to harvest more ballots, and adjust the algorithms.
There never was close to 81 million legit Biden votes. They found out how many they needed in the key locations and made sure they manafactured enough. The next day Bernie Sanders was amazed at how many votes Trump got, and what the scale of the operation they needed to do in the next few days entailed. 18% less Biden votes just means that there would be more votes to fabricate.
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“Why did they shut down the counting in the key places simultaneously? Because they found out that they were going to lose and needed to harvest more ballots, and adjust the algorithms.”
The fabrication was evident in the TV broadcasts of the vote count. In several key states Trump was well ahead of Biden when in the early hours of the the next day, votes suddenly started to go 100% for Biden until he was just ahead, then there were enough to keep Biden ahead. No doubt any records of the broadcasts have since been destroyed.
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Maptram,
Also logging the vote count that election night. I still have scribble sheets for States like Georgia, the Carolinas, Pennsylvania, Arizona showing Trump roaring ahead as the night wore on, then that hiatus when there were large reversals.
People used to working with numbers might have been as gobsmacked as I was from this plausible interference and wonder about the mechanisms. Geoff S
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The problem is that even with a loss of “votes” for biden, the ballot problem would likely not disappear.
Difference between ballots and votes
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Guess who’s not getting a new laptop for Xmas?
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I think that was the New York Post rather than Times
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Didn’t it used to be the cover up and so much the crime that did you in.
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Unfortunately, Hollywood have elevated the FBI to hero status. Over the decades, look how many TV shows have been based around this organisation. From the original series back in the 60′ ( Efram Zembalist Jnr, or whatever his name was) to all the current batch. If they stuck to solving multi jurisdictions crimes and catching serial killers who cross state lines, that would be fine. But, it seems they dont.
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That’s the problem with national enforcement institutions. It could be called the Kempetai, the gehiem state police, the Stasi, the KGB, the BOM, the EPA, or the FBI. It’s the same problem eventually, regardless of the nameplate on the front of the building. Really any alphabit agency.
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Voting wrong is a multi-jurisdictional crime. . . .
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O/T yet before any FBI/Media muggles shouts ‘Hottest EVAH!’, Dr Roy’s UAH temps for November are out – oh dear, a bit chilly:
-0.56 C Australia
-0.51 C USA (48)
-0.16 C Tropics
+0.17 C Planet Earth
Who knew fractions of degrees Celsius (tiny fractions at that) would require the complete destruction, then renew rebuild reset, of civilisation.
A *White Christmas* for Australia, anyone?
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It is exactly that information that is worrying the crap out of the climate alarmists. If the Earth does cool instead of heat the show is over. People may not know if there were fewer cyclones this year or not but they will notice cooler weather particularly in the NH especially if it coincides with a lack of heating. I do not expect Bowen to understand due to his severe lack of neurons but other politicians are starting to take note even fellow ALP types.
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I’m afraid that UAH will be ignored or dismissed by the science gatekeepers and will continue to post contrivances such as the hottest spring in Australia eveerrr. Propaganda has its sway over politicians, who are profoundly stupid. Chris Bowen is a joke.
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We can see that the BOM is hell bent on delivering “warming” regardless.
Last week my wife told me Channel 9 was predicting extremely hot temps (getting their info from the BOM). I told her they were lying, and indeed after one warm day on the Gold Coast we had cooler weather for the rest of the week.
This is the new modus operandi, where extreme (and false) forecasts of v hot weather are routinely put out. But very rarely come to be. But the sheep watching slack jawed to the TV remember only the extreme temp warnings not the actual normal weather.
Shut down the BOM and contract it out. Dr Johnson needs to be terminated as all he is running is a propaganda operation.
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I’m afraid not. Even if the cooling increases, even if we return to drought, or more storms eventuate, or it snows in Cairns, they will simply claim it’s all more evidence of catastrophic climate change must be fixed with taxes and grants.
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Don’t think that here we don’t have interference either. My late father was the victim of govt suppression of some utterly damning facts he and others unearthed relating to a disaster some years ago in NSW. I guarantee if I mentioned the disaster nearly all here would have heard of it.
People need to get it through their heads that so much of our govt apparatus is utterly corrupted and no longer serving Australians, but serves itself or other masters. On covid as a very clear example we have dangerous and useless treatments still being pushed and the only beneficiaries are Pharma companies – how people cannot see the problems in this country is beyond me.
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Ex FBI Chief counsel (involved in/backer of various evidence fabrications used in the attempt to ‘get Trump’) and who left FBI in 2018 after leaks to press, was hired as a senior counsel role at Twitter. has been screening releases of “Twitter Files” to Journalists. Matt Taibbi discovered this a couple of days ago and Musk has fired him.
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1600243405841666048
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Zero Hedge have more detail on this swamp-creature whos been effectively the 2IC censor at twitter https://www.zerohedge.com/political/musk-fires-twitters-fbi-russiagate-twitter-lawyer-over-vetting-debacle
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The US has a huge problem with the left. How is it this story was covered up and silenced yet Clinton could get the Russian collusion up and running and attack Trump and hound him the entire tenure as president. Then we have the leftist inspired riot of January 6 where protesters are imprisoned but Pelosi can hide the surveillance footage? How is it that Trump is attacked and threatened with inditement, yet the left do this stuff every day?
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Read the following article from Sundance from The Conservative Tree House web site.
The article shows how the FBI was able to be come corrupt.
Regards
Climate Heretic
PS Articles from Sundance are sometimes mind blowing.
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Hmmm…This is why the Dems target and control select local election districts in the swing states. But there is a double standard imposed by the courts and government officials (usually unelected) regardless of the local rules and regardless of the Constitution. For example, in Pennsylvania the state constitution spefically prohibits ballot harvesting and mail in voting. It specifically states that you must vote in person on election day, or by absentee only if hardship can be proven. Republicans in the state legislature sued the state authorities for allowing illegal voting in Pa. and the lower courts initially ruled in their favor. But highere courts over turned it on 1st appeal. It is still going through appeals.
Imagine if the roles were reversed. The FBI would be enforcing election laws, and the DOJ would be prosecuting election fraud, rather than covering it up, don’t you think? Yes, they would. The Democrat Party is the party of the government class, even at the state and local level.
States like Florida and Wyoming have such stanch conservative voter numbers that resistance from local officials to election reforms can’t be stopped and elected officials like Liz C are booted. Arizona is a real mess with the official in charge of the elections and election for governor actually being the Democrat candidate.
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Here’s Clint Eastwood’s “J Edgar” 2011 movie and a number of well- known actors like Dicaprio , Naomi Watts, Judi Dench, Josh Lucas etc.
This explores Hoover and Tolson’s long relationship and some other stories over the years.
He certainly had the goods on JFK, Eleanor Roosevelt and others over the years.
https://vk.com/video/@zdenek1964?q=j%20edgar&z=video422198122_456261861%2Fpl_391330996_-2
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Simply put the USA is a third world carp hole run by criminal gangs that travel the world toppling governments and inserting puppet regimes to get their way. The American people have had plenty of opportunities to end this via the constitution but they dont, they sit idly by and watch.
Its time turn the USA into green glass, reformat it so the rest of the world can live in some kind of peace
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The “rest of the world” to live in peace – you mean, for example, Africa, the Muslim World, China, N Korea, Central America, Venezuela, Colombia, Mexico. Of course, then there are those exemplars of freedom and love such as the EU, Canada, NZ, Solomon Islands, PNG, Russia, Ukraine, Kosovo, Argentina…to be consistent, you will create a lot of glass.
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The following is a list of US bases around the world, if you dont understand that most of the conflict you raise above is a direct result of CIA influence and the selling of weapons by the US then you are too far gone, there is no hope for you.
Lets start with the Muslim world, the US went in there back in the 70’s and ruined that country until they got kicked out, so they got all chummy with a you Saddam Hussien. They brought down the Iraq gov and put Saddam in charge, loaded him up with weapons and got him to attack Iran. After a while Saddam told the USA to shove it so we had the made up WMD BS story as an excuse to attack Iraq.
Then we had Afghanistan, then we had Syria, then we had Lybia, then we had Venezaula, now we have Ukraine, and soon Turkey.
So please spare me your sanctimonious BS.
Aruba (Netherlands) – Queen Beatrix International Airport
Ascension Island (UK) – Ascension Island Auxiliary Airfield
Australia – Pine Gap; Marine Rotational Force – Darwin[108]
Bahamas – AUTEC
Bahrain – Naval Support Activity Bahrain; Isa Air Base
Belgium – Chièvres Air Base; Kleine Brogel Air Base
Bosnia and Herzegovina – Camp Eagle
British Indian Ocean Territory (United Kingdom) – Naval Support Facility Diego Garcia
Bulgaria – Aitos Logistics Center; Bezmer Air Base; Graf Ignatievo Air Base; Novo Selo Range
Burkina Faso – Ouagadougou Airport[109]
Cameroon – Contingency Location Garoua
Cuba – Guantanamo Bay Naval Base
Curaçao (Netherlands) – US Air Force Forward Operating Base
Cyprus – Akrotiri and Dhekelia: RAF Akrotiri. The Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia is a British Overseas Territory on the island of Cyprus.
Djibouti – Camp Lemonnier
Estonia – Ämari Air Base
Germany – US Military Installations in Germany; Panzer Kaserne; Ramstein Air Base; Spangdahlem Air Base; Baumholder Army Post; Landstuhl Regional Medical Center; Sembach Army Post;
Greece – Alexandroupoli Army Base, Larisa Air Base, Araxos Air Base, Syros base, Souda Bay Naval Base
Greenland (Denmark) – Thule Air Base
Honduras – Soto Cano Air Base
Hungary – Pápa Air Base
Iraq – Al Asad Airbase[110] and several facilities in 7 different governorates
Israel – Dimona Radar Facility
Italy – Caserma Ederle-Caserma Del Din; Darby Military Community; Naval Air Station Sigonella; Naval Support Activity Naples; Aviano Air Base
Japan – United States Forces Japan
Jordan – Muwaffaq Salti Air Base
Kenya – Camp Simba, Armed Forces Research Institute of Medical Sciences
Kosovo[a] – Camp Bondsteel
Kuwait – Ali Al Salem Air Base; Camp Arifjan; Camp Buehring; Kuwait Naval Base
Lithuania – Šiauliai Air Base
Netherlands – Volkel Air Base; USCG Activities Europe
Niger – Niger Air Base 101; Niger Air Base 201
Norway – Marine Corps garrison at Værnes Air Station
Oman – RAFO Masirah; RAFO Thumrait (South of Oman) [111]
Philippines – Antonio Bautista Air Base; Basa Air Base; Fort Magsaysay; Lumbia Air Base; Mactan-Benito Ebuen Air Base[112]
Poland – Łask Air Base
Portugal – Lajes Field
Qatar – Al Udeid Air Base
Romania – Mihail Kogălniceanu Air Base; Deveselu Military Base
Saudi Arabia – 64th Air Expeditionary Group (inactive since 2014);[113] Prince Sultan Air Base[114]
Seychelles – United States drone base in Seychelles
Singapore – Paya Lebar Air Base; Changi Naval Base
South Korea – United States Forces Korea
Spain – Morón Air Base; Naval Station Rota
Syria – Military base in Al-Tanf and several facilities in northern Syria, within US-backed SDF territory[115]
Thailand – Armed Forces Research Institute of Medical Sciences; U-Tapao Royal Thai Navy Airfield[116]
Tunisia – Drone base at Bizerte-Sidi Ahmed Air Base[117][118]
Turkey – Incirlik Air Base, Izmir Air Station, Kürecik Radar Station, Ankara Support Facility
United Arab Emirates – Al Dhafra Air Base; Port of Jebel Ali; Fujairah Naval Base
United Kingdom – RAF Alconbury; RAF Croughton; RAF Fairford; RAF Lakenheath; RAF Menwith Hill; RAF Mildenhall
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The US bases have been around for a long time post WWII.
For a long time US actions were often helpful and in many cases benefited disparate nations. ( there are long debates on many areas of conflict with valid arguments from different perspectives)
Over time however the US AND much of Europe became ever more corrupt. Indeed, just as corporations became global, so to did corruption. From Obama forward, and somewhat before that, many or most US actions are indefensible.
None of that excuses dark actions by many other nations. Radical Islam has centuries of brutal tyranny. One can go on and on looking at more then a century of Democide from totalitarian regimes, and blaming the US for that history is simply wrong.
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Oy vey, Komrade Ze!ensky, lead actor of ‘Ukra!ne’, is giving a live speech to NZ’s parliament next week via technical wizardry – another ‘world-first’ for Komrade Cinders. But why?
This week she, and two other ministers, made very public ‘apologies’ for their departments’ serious cook-ups… Instead of “I reject that” it’s “and I apologise”. I smell a rat, sumpfink fushy is going on, apart from we’re about to run out of aviation fuel. A comedy of errors.
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crakar24
I just started reading
Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick, “The untold history of the United States”.
As an introduction to that it mentions that John Quincy Adams (1821) warned of the danger of the US “sacrificing its republican spirit on the alter of empire” and that the US had acquired quite an empire by about 1900.
Reads like there is going to be a lot that isn’t “motherhood and apple pie”
(https://wordhistories.net/2021/05/22/motherhood-applepie/ )
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Ah yes, the central banks have been at war in the US for many years even way back in 1821 vying for control. You can tell when the banks almost lost control its when a president gets shot LOL
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Not just presidents getting shot! The central bankers were about to lose control in 1912 and then “coincidentally” the Titanic steamed full speed into an iceberg and sank with the central bankers’ enemies on board, and equally coincidentally, without enough lifeboats to save them. They were about to lose control again in 2001, and then “coincidentally” the three buildings of the WTC with the relevant financial materials suddenly collapsed, almost as if deliberately and carefully demolished. They play for keeps, those guys… but the jig is up!
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/breaking-elon-musk-fires-twitters-deputy-general-counsel-james-baker-light-concerns-role-suppression-hunter-biden-laptop-story/
Musk is trying to rid Twitter of the deep state
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-12-06-fbi-social-media-censor-politically-damaging-content-2020-election.html
More evidence of deep state manipulation in the media.
I wonder how much influence they have in our media?
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I gave up listening to the legacy media here because they leave so much out. Having my daily dose of TGP, Jo and WUWT plus some American Thinker I am aware that either our media are stupid or complicit. They are probably both since many are awake to their censorship and seek other sources of information so they are destroying their own credibility and income stream just to support a largely leftist political and bureaucratic elite.
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“We always knew the media was corrupt, sensationalist partisan hacks, but the bigger problem seems to be that the FBI are too, and they are vastly better at it.”
Not just the FBI, but the DOJ also.
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If anybody is sceptical about FBI/CIA/Secret Service corruption etc in US politics look no further than the case of the murder of JFK.
Oliver Stone released an updated movie last year “JFK Revisited: Through The Looking Glass” which destroys key pillars of Warren. Buy beg or borrow this as the quickest route to updating with modern information from many researchers plus the 2017-2018 files releases.
Do not forget the pioneer JFK researcher & lawyer the late Mark Lane who in ~1963-1968 interviewed dozens and dozens of JFK assassination witnesses – filming many – giving those brave people a chance to leave their observations for posterity. Most of Mark Lane’s 1960’s research is in his book and movie “Rush to Judgment”. There is a great(tiny) 1.7Mb pdf of the 1992 edition of “Rush to Judgment” by Thunder’s Mouth Press with page numbers all in agreement- if you can find it for download.
As Stone says “Conspiracy theory becomes conspiracy fact”
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On the theme of cover-ups, this one not seemingly by the FBI, here is today’s update of the UAH lower troposphere temperature anomaly over Australia.
I keep sending these monthly updates to newspapers and the newspapers keep refraining from mention.
Why would this be?
Even the recent CSIRO/BOM State of the Climate report for Australia fails to mention UAH. Surely they should give reasons for not mentioning?
Geoff S
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http://www.geoffstuff.com/uahdec.jpg
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Geoff. Where do we get access to UAH monthly data for Australia (or anywhere else for that matter)?
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https://www.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v6.0/tlt/uahncdc_lt_6.0.txt
Not updated with Nov yet, probably in a few days.
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Like this?
https://www.nsstc.uah.edu/climate/archives.html
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The man is good!
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No need to wait. Go to Dr Roy Spencer’s blog now —
https://www.drroyspencer.com/
A table there has the Australia anomaly for November now at minus 0.56
In a few days the global map will update and you can see the shape of anomalies incl the wide brown land
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Max,
Others here have answered your question before I came back to you.
Geoff S
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Please scrap my graph above at #25.
After some more fiddling, I found the November 2022 drop of -0.56 captured an extra month at the start of the data as well as at the end, so we have a corrected graph showing 10 years and 5 months of “pause”
Pause is defined by a negative slope of the linear least squares line of best fit, the red dotted line.
Geoff S
http://www.geoffstuff.com/uahdec2022.jpg
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The “top of the fold” issue in the USA is how the Taylor Swift and Ticketmaster fiasco unfolded. Below the fold is the story of a large antlered deer that got tangled up in a string of Christmas lights — with no battery to light them.
Other than a few outliers, the FBI topic is not on the average citizen’s mind.
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Nothing new in this. Most people paying attention to the coverage given by so few media outlets
were already aware of the existence of the malfeasance that occured and continues to do so since 2016.
The most depressing thing is the little interest taken by the US voters. Even today after the Musk exposure of the Hunter Biden laptop there was minimal movement in the voting in Georgia which the Democrats retained.
This doesn’t bode well for the next two years for the US. Also, most of the popular Australian media follows the same path as US media. The US is ruled by a dangerous cabal of Government, Security forces, Big media and Big Business. Australians seem totally disinterested in analysing our problems. On climate, it’s the price of energy that worries everyone; not the shambles of the energy system and the huge costs incurred behind it. All due to our political elites. Politicians, despite feeling competent to declare science as being ‘in’, have historically, a fatally flawed knowledge base when it comes to major projects. The $32B write down of the NBN yesterday, an example of political business acuity, didn’t raise a squeak. That’s coming with their renwables act via the huge costs entailed in it. Politicians have given us huge, inexorably rising national debt, but they are intent on destroying our ability to pay for it in their war on fossil fuel exports that largely keep us solvent. A $1T to redo the grid on the east coast doesn’t seem to worry anyone.
It appears it’s going to be a long time before the people wake up to the fact they are being ruled (with a clenched fist as shown by the political absence of compassion by politicians and police brutality during COVID-19 lockdowns) by an autocracy forcing huge changes in the way we think and how our society will function. By the time they do wake up it may well be too late. We already see the Oxforshire council taking control of citizens’ permitted movements, in England. I suggest the next two years of the Biden administration is not going to be pretty as that two years represents the final time for the imternationally obedient political elites to finish the West off before we get a chance to turf them out. That’s why they still think they must destroy Trump.
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“The most depressing thing is the little interest taken by the US voters. Even today after the Musk exposure of the Hunter Biden laptop there was minimal movement in the voting in Georgia which the Democrats retained.”
I keep saying, never assume the Left will lose just because nobody voted for them.
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Chesterton continues to speak to us from the early 20th century and the Twitter account run in his name has today seemed quite relevant to Mr Musk.
The implication that a communications device could not decide what you were allowed to communicate must now seem stale and quaint.
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One of the things which makes it obvious that there was vote rigging, is the media’s constant refrain:
“baseless clams of election fraud”
“baseless claims that the 2020 election result”
“unproven vote cheating…”
and on and on.
The BBC do it, Sky does it, of course the others, M S N B C N N B C B ~ Channel 4
GB News is the only channel that has allowed anything approaching a curiosity into why so many apparently normal people think that something fishy went on.
The MSN make it obvious by omission
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I have listed 17 ways our May 2022 Aussie Fed election was gamed by our dominant GreenLeft media –
Count the ways lies of the left helped Albo’s Labor win the election
http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=6947
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I’m an Ex NSA guy – from the 1966 to 1970 – In my day we only spied on the Communists.
I need a new country.
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As far as I’ve heard the five eyes or however many eyes, spy on each other…then share.
This gets round the rules internally but it seems nobody really sticks to the rules anyway any more.
Anything they can get away with and they decide what’s a good cause
So if it’s “for UK eyes only”, it still operates on trust!
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