Wednesday Open Thread

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    Gee Aye

    I wonder if I am first?

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      Gee Aye

      If I am, here is an article none of you know about as it by the ABC.

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2022-12-05/bom-set-to-replace-expert-forecasters-for-radio-crosses/101733358

      You probably though this was the case already at all levels.

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        b.nice

        So the blame for continued wrong forecasts will go on the talking-head propagandists, not the BoM crystal ball gazers ??

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          Leo G

          So the blame for continued wrong forecasts will go on the talking-head propagandists

          Some credit should go to the BoM app programmers who clearly don’t understand basic discrete probability rules.
          Eg Friday’s rainfall forecast for Manly NSW:
          75% chance of no rain
          50% chance of no rain
          25% chance of less than 1mm

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        TheGreatUnvaxxed

        “…community information officers…” screams political commissars to me.

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        el+gordo

        “But again it’s about trust, the meteorologist doesn’t just tell us what’s happening, they help us understand why and how things are occurring.”

        Actually they don’t.

        South east Australia is at the forefront of global cooling and BoM is quiet on the subject.

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        Ronin

        So reports are going to be more incompetent that usual.

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        DOC

        GeeAye, this is now the method of left governments doing two things. The first is to break down the idea that anybody actually bothering to spend years learning any topic is any better than grabbing a good talking mouth off the street who becomes recognised as an expert simply by exposure and time – until he/she/any other descriptor finally gets caught out badly. It’s like sidelining those experts that disagree ‘the science is in’. Its no skin off the political nor bureaucratic nose.

        The second reason for the move is, continuous derision of experts who refuse to follow politically determined lines of what is or isn’t fact, leads to a deficiency of experts in any field. That leads to insufficient supply to fill essential places. Hence the odd concept that anyone with a little knowledge in a field is good enough to occupy that position. Recently we see final year students in medicine and teaching being pulled in to occupy vacant official positions in teaching and medicine for which they are ill-prepared. There are professional and legal consequences which are of no concern to the politicians. There are intern years where one learns the occupation with oversight. In technological businesses they take the same position with qualified graduates ie one who has completed the course, are taken on to learn how the business eg engineering, really works.

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        william x

        Gee Aye, I don’t know why the Bom just doesn’t refer everyone to this page of their website for future forecasts.
        Forget the Bom “Community Information officers”.

        http://www.bom.gov.au/iwk/calendars/dharawal.shtml

        As half the Bom site is not secure, I have provided the Dharawal weather forecast for the NSW East coast of Australia:
        The predictions and observations below are from the Bom website, courtesy of our indigeneous peoples (Dharawal):

        Time of Burran
        January-March
        “Gadalung Marool” — hot and dry

        Time of Marrai’gang
        April-June
        “Bana’murrai’yung” — wet becoming cooler

        Time of Burrugin
        June-late July
        “Tugarah Tuli” — cold, frosty, short days.

        Time of Wiritjiribin
        August
        “Tugarah Gunya’marri” — cold and windy

        Time of Ngoonungi
        September-October
        “Murrai’yunggory” — cool, getting warmer

        Time of Parra’dowee
        November-December
        “Goray’murrai” — Warm and wet

        Unlike the taxpayer funded Bom, It seems that the Dharawal have had the weather prediction right, 95% of the time.

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        Saighdear

        Well done, GA!
        Och munn, we’ve noticed that years ago, YEARS AGO, bonnie Hielan’ lassies an their comrades smiling an showing pretty pitchers: one of Dingwall, yesterday – no snow on the hills then an’ probably still no’ very much now. This is despite Ample Yella Allerts since afore the weekend aboot Snaw an Frost comin fae ( the warmed up – nae snae) Arctic. +3.5 ( three point four nine) C last night and + 5 C ( Five point fortynine for some) on the previous night. All completely K R A P.. What a waste of distributed salt into the freshwater rivers …and they wonder why the Salmon can’t find their way back tae hame.

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      John Connor II

      That server lag is REALLY bad, but yes you are!😇

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      el+gordo

      ‘The November 2022 northern hemisphere snow cover was tied for 3rd most in the 1966-2022 record. In North America, November 2022 ranked 3rd most snowy on record, while Eurasia was 12th most snowy of the past 57 years.’ (Climate Impact Company)

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      First in what? Being a Plonker – YES.

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        Gee Aye

        You tell me. I’m just here for the ride. What is your question? I’ll make one up so I can shoot it down.

        Is your question, “Why is it not so hot when CO2 doomsayers predict it to be hot? “. That would be based on a false premise. The CO2 doomsayers do not predict an inexorable unwavering progress towards +2C (or whatever), so your question is not valid. They predict it will be, on average +2C (or whatever) by the year 2xxx.

        The other nonsense, as pointed out by Jo herself the other day, is that of exceptionalism. There are millions of records to be made using combinations of Geography, time of year, temperature, rainfall etc. Reporting on one region for a period of time is making a claim that such a thing is exceptional and meaningful in some way, whilst in the meantime, there are a bunch of places having their hottest driest conditions “for some decades” that are being ignored for the purposes of making a claim.

        Here is one back at you. When was the warmest La nina in the last 50 years?

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          el+gordo

          Ah yes, ‘2021 was indeed Australia’s warmest La Niña-only year on record, despite being the coolest year in almost a decade.’ (Weatherzone)

          It gives the impression that the heat in the system, presumably caused by filthy coal, is overriding ENSO.

          My long range weather forecast: ENSO will drift into neutral and then a Modoki El Nino. As you know from your vast experience on this subject is that all previous Modoki El Nino happened during a negative PDO.

          The UAH for November is exactly on the red trend line, I win.

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            Gee Aye

            OK you win if you want. The trend line though is the mean of 13 months and the change in the trend is November minus the deleted month (September 2021?) divided by 13, so well done for November landing on that.

            Also, you have a poor grasp on what “exactly” means when it comes to data. I wont concede that as a win.

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      Lance

      “Many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first”

      (Matthew 19:30)

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    John Connor II


    Elon Musk’s SpaceX Developing Military Version Of Starlink Satellites

    Elon Musk’s SpaceX has announced that it would expand its Starlink satellite system into the military sphere with a new national security line called Starshield.

    The new program, unveiled on Dec. 2, will build on its launch and satellite communications technology and provide additional capabilities to provide a secured satellite network for government entities.

    “Starlink is designed for consumer & commercial use, Starshield is designed for gov use, with focus on three areas: Earth Observation, Communications, Hosted Payloads,” said Sawyer Merritt, a Tesla investor, and analyst in a tweet.

    The “hosted payloads,” system allows users to utilize a satellite bus, which is the body of the spacecraft, as a flexible platform.

    The most likely customers of Starshield would appear to be the U.S. military and intelligence community, which have already invested heavily into SpaceX’s satellite technology, with key stakes in the Starlink system.

    “While Starlink is designed for consumer and commercial use, Starshield is designed for government use,” wrote the company on its website.

    “SpaceX’s ongoing work with the Department of Defense and other partners demonstrates our ability to provide in-space and on-ground capability at scale.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/elon-musks-spacex-developing-military-version-starlink-satellites

    Hmmmm…

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    Vicki

    I have just read a most amazing article on using repurposed existing drugs in combination to defeat some of the most serious cancers. Had I not been aware of the successful use of existing drugs (resisted by both Big Pharma & governments) to treat Covid 19, I might have been sceptical. This is worth reading. I originally found it in the substack of Dr. Tess Lawrie the UK doctor who has led the opposition to the usual treatment for Covid.

    https://justusrhope.substack.com/p/the-thanksgiving-miracle

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      Thanks Vicki.
      On a somewhat similar vein, I keep reading of people with compromised immune systems or immune deficiency in articles about Covid and without any mention of the role vitamin D plays.

      Zero.

      No mention of its role as moderator of the whole system.
      No mention of any testing of the blood of patients.
      No mention of desirable blood levels.
      And, of course, no mention of cofactors.

      Cheers,
      Dave B

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        OldOzzie

        New study claims to show Vitamin D doesn’t help against Covid. Here’s what they did wrong

        What was different about this trial that might have caused it to fail? Analysis of Joliffe et al.’s paper gives rise to a number of observations.

        Of particular importance was the treatment of participants randomised to ‘No supplementation’. Instead of being given a placebo, as would be normal in a controlled study, they were given nothing and were informed that it was a vitamin D trial, thereby alerting them to the fact that vitamin D supplementation could be an important infection preventive in the middle of the COVID-19 pandemic. As a result, almost 50% reported taking their own vitamin D supplements. We do not know what level of supplementation these participants took and we can assume that if 50% reported supplementation, the actual number was probably higher. As Dr. David Grimes noted in a BMJRapid Response, this was therefore “a randomised uncontrolled study” [18]. Consequently, any comparison of the intervention arm with the ‘no supplementation’ arm was rendered meaningless. The authors sought to overcome this limitation by conducting sensitivity analysis, but this is no substitute for conducting a properly controlled trial.

        Furthermore, the authors took the unusual step of retesting those who had baseline vitamin D levels of ≥75 nmol/L (≥30 ng/mL) after two months. If they now proved to have vitamin D levels of <75 nmol/L (<30 ng/mL), they were included in the study and supplemented for four months. These new participants amounted to 11% in the lower dose group and 20% in the higher dose group, which again risks distorting the results as they would have been less likely to benefit from vitamin D, as their second attempt at a baseline level would almost certainly have been only slightly below 75 nmol/L (30 ng/mL).

        [SNIP]

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      red edwards

      I wish I had known about this a year ago.

      I lost 2 close ladyfriends to cancer in the last 7 months.

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    Gee Aye

    Warnock wins Georgia. This voter fraud has gone on long enough.

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    Hanrahan

    Dr Chris Martenson does a deep dive into the blood clots being found by embalmers in the last 18 months. He claims the expertise required to discuss the matter. I watched all 50 mins.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH6VTu8qb3w

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    John Connor II

    Antwerp’s city services down after hackers attack digital partner

    The city of Antwerp, Belgium, is working to restore its digital services that were disrupted last night by a cyberattack on its digital provider.

    The disruption has affected services used by citizens, schools, daycare centers, and the police, which have been working intermittently today.

    An investigation is ongoing, but the little information available points to a ransomware attack from a threat actor that has yet to be disclosed.

    According to Het Laatste Nieuws (HLN), the hackers were able to disrupt Antwerp’s services after breaching the servers of Digipolis, the city’s digital partner that provides administrative software.

    The publication also notes that almost all Windows applications have been impacted.

    Phone service for some departments was also unavailable. Alexandra d’Archambeau, a councilor member for the district of Wilrijk, said earlier today that the city’s email service was down.

    Among other the services affected by the attack are those from the Antwerp Healthcare Company (Zorgbedrijf Antwerpen), which provides residential care services to seniors in the province.

    Johan De Muynck, the general manager of Zorgbedrijf said that the attack made unusable the software that kept track of who should receive medication.

    This forced the staff in 18 residential care centers to switch to pen and paper and rely on traditional paper prescriptions for the seniors needing them.

    “Doctors now have to sign prescriptions that we then deliver to the pharmacy. Lots of paperwork but everyone gets their medication today. My estimate is that everything can go automatically again tomorrow morning,” De Muynck said.

    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/antwerps-city-services-down-after-hackers-attack-digital-partner/

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      John Connor II

      NZ – Large cyber attack targets several government organisations

      A New-Zealand IT MSP providing services to several government organisations has experienced a cyber-incident that has compromised access to its data and systems.

      RNZ recently reported that organisations have said data held by external IT provider Mercury IT (NZ, no relation the AU based company with the same name) has been blocked and that multiple agencies were assessing the extent of the problem.

      According to a National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC) release, some of the government agencies whose data has been impacted include providers contracted to Te Whatu Ora, Health NZ. The NCSC says that the incident has not impacted the delivery of health services.

      The Ministry of Justice has also confirmed that the cyber-security incident has impacted access to some coronial data.

      The RNZ article says organisation officials have confirmed that access to 14,500 coronial files and about 4000 post-mortem reports from around the country have been affected.

      The NCSC release goes on to say that the provider has engaged external cyber security response support and reported the incident to the NCSC as well as the New Zealand Police, CERT NZ and the Privacy Commissioner.

      https://securitybrief.co.nz/story/large-cyber-attack-targets-several-government-organisations

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        John Connor II

        What Will It Take to Secure Critical Infrastructure?

        There’s no quick fix after decades of underinvestment, but the process has started. Cybersecurity grants, mandatory reporting protocols, and beefed-up authentication requirements are being put in place.

        Securing critical infrastructure is complicated because of the vast network of facilities and management systems. Threats targeting this sector can have dire consequences, and when attacks do happen, they’re often accompanied by a media storm. This generates interest among concerned citizens, which prompts a reaction from politicians, who are spurred into action to ensure the necessary cyber protections are implemented to calm the concerned citizens — the electorate.

        The 2021 ransomware attack on Colonial Pipeline, which caused long lines at gas stations, followed this very timeline and served as a much-needed wake-up call to protect critical infrastructure services against cyberattacks.

        The emphasis on cybersecurity due to the increased threats to critical infrastructure — including cybercriminals attempting to monetize their efforts, terrorism, and the conflict in Ukraine — is unprecedented.

        On Feb. 5, 2021, the water treatment system servicing Oldsmar City suffered a cyber incident: A poorly secured remote-access solution based on TeamViewer was accessed by a perpetrator, who adjusted the amount of sodium hydroxide in the water from 100 parts per million to 11,000 parts per million. Fortunately, a city water plant operator noticed the increase and reversed it, stopping the attack and the potential poisoning of thousands of people. It was later disclosed that the system accessed wasn’t protected by two-factor authentication and was protected by a weak, shared password. There really is no excuse.

        The Wall Street Journal’s CIO Journal suggests that technology spending as a percentage of revenue in banking and securities is around 7%, and in construction and manufacturing just 2%. Given that water supply is a critical infrastructure service and has been specifically called out as needing cybersecurity investment, it is reasonable to expect spending on IT, including cybersecurity, to be at the higher of these two levels. A report by Deloitte breaks this number out for cybersecurity spending, which they estimate to be 10.9%.

        https://www.darkreading.com/ics-ot/what-will-it-take-to-secure-critical-infrastructure

        Decades of apathy and failure to modernise and protect infrastructure could be the undoing of most countries, given that Umraine has just effectively started WW3 and state actor hacking will kick into overdrive…

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    John Connor II

    JC2 MacGyver tip for the day – Superglue and graphite

    https://youtu.be/t7YG90LFkMM

    Check out the other super glue and baking soda hacks, especially if you’re out of JB Weld. Just use a pencil instead…

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    crakar24

    Latest statement by the “leader of the free world”

    “It will construct a second fab here in Phoenix to build chips, three nano chips, three nano chip, chips that are three nano. Anyway, you know what I’m saying. Nano Nono, I don’t know,”

    Biden said with one eye open.

    God have mercy on our souls

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      TheGreatUnvaxxed

      POTUS Continued:
      “Nano is good, right? So 3 nano is 3 times as good. C’mon man, you don’t wanna waste your time with nano anymore, we’ve moved on. This is the USA, man. We’re cutting edge. Our administration has invested heavily in this. Nancy and Paul have invested in this. Hunter’s invested in this…and that means 50% of our aid to Ukraine’s invested in this. We’re up to 3 nano now in the USA. Soon, and I’m not joking, I’ve seen the blueprints, we’ll be at 4 nano any day now. You don’t know 3 nano is 3 times as good as nano, 3 times as fast, 3 times as reliable, 3 times as green, you dunno what the hell you’re talkin about, you lyin’ dog-faced pony soldier.”

      “Hold up, where are all those kids goin’? They wanna rub…I got blond hairs on my legs. They like to – well sonofabitch they got fired. That Cornpop’s a mean dude…badass. Where’s my chain? I got a chain…a bike chain…wasn’t even NANO in those days. Not even 1 nano. Dunno what the hell it is. Mano bike chain I think. Mano a mano bike chain. I’m not joking, my son owned that company just before he shipped out and died as heroes in five separate warzones. I’ll get those kids their jobs back if someone just gets me my chain. Whadda they smell like, anyway? They smell good? I like girl shampoo. Well, that and long, long showers.”

      “Now where’s my icecream? And where’s the bathroom? Uh no, no, no stairs. Stairs and I are not friends. Nobody f*cks with a Biden except a flight of stairs and the laws of gravity. Well, that and laptop repairmen. Lyin dogface Newton. Bust his apple with my bike chain. Showed that sonofabitch. Just the bathroom, no stairs. Meh, too late. Just gimme the icecream. Someone’ll clean up the mess. That’s what I usually hear as I head back to the basement…”

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    farmerbraun

    This is farcical. I guess it’s the turn of OZ next. Jesus , Mary and Joseph.

    https://thespinoff.co.nz/live-updates/07-12-2022/confirmed-zelensky-to-address-new-zealand-parliament

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      John Connor II

      Any country that backs Zelensky is going to regret it, as we’re already seeing.
      So NZ & Oz will pay the price of spineless WEF puppet pollies, wbo are oblivious to the fact that they too are expendable pawns in the game.
      No doubt down the track they’ll be crying for amnesty too…
      Nope x 2.

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      Gee Aye

      He has already addressed the Australian parliament https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-60952603

      yeah spineless puppets will be smitten by- err Russia.

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      Greg in NZ

      NZ actress & Ukra!n!an actor to have ‘live’ Zoom chat next week… wonder if they’ll mention all those NZ *soldiers of fortune* employed over there ☠️

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      farmerbraun

      I find it hard to imagine a greater insult to the ANZAC soldiers who died fighting against this sort of evil, than to sit in the NZ Parliament and listen to the ravings of this fascist P.O.S.

      Any M.P who does not walk out in protest , should declare their allegiance right now by desecrating the graves of those who gave their lives so that we should not have to live with this.

      The only positive that I can see in it , is that those with eyes to see will now perhaps understand that both National and Labour will betray this country , and everything good that it has stood for , simply to please their globalist masters.
      Unfortunately, a largely uneducated and brainwashed population will be incapable of seeing where this leads – total subservience to global fascism.

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    crakar24

    we will roll out the woke carpet for the man that launders all our fake money

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    crakar24

    The last act of any corrupt government is to loot the people……..well in this case loot the white people

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/racist-new-york-democrats-demand-reparations-black-residents-say-223000-per-person-not-enough/

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    Today is the Anniversary of the date in 1941 when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour and brought the USA into the Second World War. Germany then declared war on the USA. Then both Japan and Germany were stuffed by a far greater population and Industrial capacity/resources.

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    John Connor II

    CDC FAKES High Flu Numbers in the US to Scare Us into Taking Flu Vaccines


    The CDC and the press want us to believe that we are in the midst of a “flu emergency.” The scary dark-colored flu map of the 2022-23 season, compared to previous seasons, seems to be clear proof of the flu nightmare unfolding in the USA right now:

    The media is also joining the fear porn chorus, repeating CDC’s call to take the flu vaccine:

    Is it time to get scared? Should we rush to get flu vaccines?

    CDC Now Counts EVERYTHING as Flu!
    It turns out that a year ago, the CDC changed the definition of “Influenza-Like Illness:”

    As of now, any illness with “fever AND (cough OR sore throat)” is counted as influenza and would darken the map!

    The CDC would count the following as influenza for the Flu map displayed at the beginning of the article:

    Cold
    Flu
    COVID-19
    RSV

    How Bad is This Double Counting?
    Look at the utilization data and outpatient (E.R.) visits from a large hospital near me:

    Of all outpatient E.R. visits — due to broken bones, poisonings, heart attacks, gunshots, influenza, Covid, etc. — consistently about 40% of E.R. visits come with a POSITIVE COVID TEST! (By the way, the only time the above number of “E.R. visits with Covid” exceeded was January 2022. This is how bad Covid is right now.)

    Such visits qualify for counting towards “influenza-like illness” colors displayed on the CDC map. Any astute reader would realize that if 40% of all E.R. visits involve having Covid, then Covid incidence would severely distort the count of “outpatient visits with influenza-like illness” that include Covid!

    So, keep in mind that when you see scaremongering about the flu, it is based on purposely inflated “influenza-like illness” numbers that include Covid cases, RSV, and much more.

    https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/cdc-fakes-high-flu-numbers-in-the

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      I have never taken the Flu Jab and the last time I had the Flu was in 1973 when I was 21 years old. Never had the Flu since. My Immune System worked it out.

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        robert rosicka

        Very similar story although last 15 years , never had any flu shots including Covid . Did suffer from flu like symptoms for about 6 months about 13 years ago but that was medication related and had some symptoms just after Covid started to spread throughout Australia but tested negative to Covid antibodies. Suspect it was a reaction to multiple mozzie bites up north a few years back.

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      Ross

      With the COVID vaccines being so effective vs that upper respiratory disease, then I’m sure the flu vaccine will be just as good. I jest, of course.

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      MrGrimNasty

      The one thing that covid death stats in the UK have taught us is that nearly everyone with covid or covid like symptoms dies of covid, but hardly anyone with flu ever dies of flu. So why bother with a vaccine that rarely offers significant protection against the current strains anyway!

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    b.nice

    In case people haven’t seen this.

    It seems that the pace of “ruinable” energy installation in Australia has stalled

    … due to lack of manufacturing capability, high cost of energy, and materials.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/12/06/green-energy-construction-company-collapse-triggers-aussie-crisis-talks/

    Oh Dear.. what a pity !! 😉

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    David Maddison

    Politicians, Elites, Gaia worshippers and the Left in general are increasing their push for non-Elites to eat insects. E.g. this primitive poverty food is now served in 1000 Aussie schools.

    How about we see meat deleted from the restaurants of parliaments, the banquets of climate “crisis” conferences, the private jet flights to said conferences, WEF and UN meetings etc. and replaced with their beloved insects?

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      John Connor II

      Meanwhile, Fauci, finally under oath, could not name a single study that showed that masks ever worked. Indeed, there were many studies that showed that masks never worked during the 1918 Spanis Flu. Indeed, the CDC even conceded that cloth masks never worked.

      Initially, Fauci spoke the truth that masks were useless. All the studies from the 1918 Spanish Flu confirmed that masks never worked and the Washington Postsaid they were “useless.”

      Now the head of Pfizer has refused to testify before the European Parliament. Let’s face the facts. This entire COVID scam was carried out with the full knowledge of those at the very top. It was done for the purpose of creating this Great Reset Agenda. It was being pushed by the WEF and Klaus Schwab for political purposes. Remember how the WEF was telling us it was so great to lock everyone down? And now, they claim the inflation has nothing to do with shortages, but Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. They really think everyone, of the vast majority anyhow, is outright stupid and will believe whatever they say.

      https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/the-covid-scam-continues/

      It’s ALL about controlling the masses, not disease, not food, not CO2, not AGW, not carbon, and the countdown timer is dangerously close to zero…

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        Not correct.

        I talked to doctors and nurses in March 2020 who worked in ICU covid wards in Australia. The Wu-flu then was often spread through large droplets which were reduced with masks. Fauci lied initially because doctors and nurses were looking at running out of PPE within weeks, because China had bought up all the spare stock, and health workers were having quiet frantic ethical discussions of whether it was reasonable to be expected to work if they couldn’t get enough PPE. “Would we expect a fireman to run into a burning building without protective gear”? Remember that even if the health workers were not afraid of covid personally, they were often afraid of taking the virus home to high risk family members, and back then we didn’t know who exactly was high risk. Their kids may have had asthma, their husband may have had high blood pressure. Staff were dissolving in tears at work under the pressure. They were making plans to live in hotels, or split their houses and live in the basement to avoid infecting family.

        Elective surgery was cancelled, primarily to save the rare PPE.

        I talked to specialist staff in ICU’s who were literally going to Bunnings to buy safety gear with their own money before it sold out. It was that bad, and our Minister of Health was totally unprepared. And these people in ICU’s were wearing hazmat suits, with full training, and doing full “airlock” style entry and exits and they needed one other staff member to watch them disrobe at the end of a shift to reduce the most high risk part of their day.

        After they had enough PPE to stop mass walk outs at hospitals Fauci flipped 180.

        Obviously the mask situation is different with Omicron and only a hazmat astronaut suit will really stop it.

        Fauci is a shameless liar, but it pays to understand what the scientists with hands-on experience were saying.

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          Chad

          Jo, with respect,… please re read your post.
          You will notice that what you have sited is comments , hearsay and beliefs from nurses , doctors etc who believe that masks were helping… that is not scientific evidence !
          I can understand how those in frontline heathcare positions would have been desperate to find any potential defence against contracting the infection, and that official recommendations likely advised(insisted ?) the use of masks, ..but again we all know how some of the recommendations are decided..often resultifng from poorly informed sources aan/or suppliers. !
          On the other hand, there are numerous controlled studies that show conclusively that masks are in effective and can actually introduce other issues that are best avoided

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    David Maddison

    Music:

    Joni Mitchell, Big Yellow Taxi + Both Sides Now (1969)
    https://youtu.be/GFB-d-8_bvY

    Sandie Shaw, Puppet on a String (1967)
    https://youtu.be/Ga1kMdJCc_Q

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    Greg in NZ

    NZ judge decrees – no $urpri$e – the State has ‘guardianship’ of wee baby Will, whose parents wanted clean blood for Will’s transfusion during heart surgery. Wonder how long til Jabcinda ‘apologises’ for THIS cook-up.

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      crakar24

      Greg,

      How would Jacinta pronounce “Ten tons of tin”?

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        Len

        Tin toons of tun?

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          Hanrahan

          Is Jacinta a Scot?

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            Len

            The New Zealand accent is Scottish based. That is why they often say wee instead of small.
            The Indian accent comes from the Welsh train drivers who married Indian women.

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              Greg in NZ

              “I toadally reject that!” There’s no Welsh train drivers in MY family tree… Scottish Protestants och aye, and Northern Irish Catholics fergoodnessakes (way back in potato famine times) however I do enjoy a hot Lamb Madras 🔥

              ‘Tun tuns of tun’ ?

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                crakar24

                The last time I was in NZ I asked the concierge at the motel for a newspaper, she replied are you agist my first thought was I don’t own a horse.

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                Len

                Pharlap was a New Zealand horse named Phillip. He was incorrectly recorded as Pharlap by an Aussie. When the Aussie asked the New Zealnder what the horse’s name he said Pharlap. As in Prunce Phullap. 😉

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          I quite like Tun .

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    OldOzzie

    Tintarella di Luna says:
    December 7, 2022 at 5:43 am

    Sorry I haven’t had a chance to look up thread but Janet Albrechtsen is absolutely on fire today: This article on the inVoice is superb:

    No one is pulling any strings against a voice, Mr Pearson JANET ALBRECHTSEN

    12:00AM DECEMBER 7, 2022
    Note: NO COMMENTS

    This column has unashamedly put forward legal reasons and philosophical arguments to demonstrate why inserting a race-based voice in the Constitution is problematic to our democracy.

    Whether responding to claims by lawyers or former judges or Indigenous leaders, academics and politicians, I have focused on the substance of the claims made. It has never been personal.

    This week I am forced to diverge, at least partly, from that model of debate. Only partly, because the attacks by Noel Pearson a week ago demand a calm, thoughtful response. Anger is no way to respond, or to win an argument honestly or fairly.

    So let us analyse in detail what was wrong with Pearson’s interview last week with Patricia Karvelas on Radio National.

    Pearson’s lack of temperance when it comes to the voice reveals a dark side, not just to the voice campaign but to what a body called the voice may look like.

    I once feared that a constitutionally entrenched voice would be filled with people like Lidia Thorpe. That changed last week. If the voice comes to sound anything like the bullying from Pearson – with people who believe that attacking people with different views, rather than engaging in a civilised debate, is the way forward for reconciliation – then the country is in trouble.

    JANET ALBRECHTSEN COLUMNIST

    Click on the Link to read Full Article

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    John Connor II

    Breaking: NZ – Baby blood case: Doctors to decide on ‘vaccinated’ blood for baby, court rules

    Doctors can make the medical decisions for a baby at the centre of a case about blood from donors vaccinated for Covid-19, a court has ruled.

    The 4-month-old boy is in hospital in Auckland.

    Te Whatu Ora (Health NZ) went to the High Court in Auckland seeking temporary guardianship of the boy, in order to authorise the use of vaccinated blood during the operation.

    But the boy’s parents, who cannot be named, opposed the application, saying they had other donors – who had not been vaccinated for Covid – lined up.

    Otago University immunologist associate professor James Ussher previously said if any remnants of Pfizer vaccine made it into donated blood, it would be very short-lived.

    It posed “no safety concerns”, he said.

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/300758832/baby-blood-case-doctors-to-decide-on-vaccinated-blood-for-baby-court-rules

    Looks like the “experts” are massively out of touch with current information…

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    OldOzzie

    Daughter: “Daddy what are sanctions?”

    Father: “Nothing to worry about kiddo.”

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    David Maddison

    Supposedly there are new covid outbreaks all around the world.

    I wonder what anti-science, anti-medicine and violations of human rights will be applied toward the outbreak, particularly in countries like Australia which are fanatical followers of the UN, WHO, WEF etc.

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    David Maddison

    I bet Alba-sleazy orders it be paid, after all, it’s our money (borrowed from future generations), not his.

    https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/brittany-higgins-partner-accuses-linda-reynolds-of-leaking-3-million-compensation-claim/news-story/be9429e389e554ef06078d7dd4d5a636

    Brittany Higgins’ partner accuses Linda Reynolds of leaking $3 million compensation claim

    Brittany Higgins’ partner David Sharaz has made a bombshell claim, accusing Linda Reynolds of discussing a confidential compensation payout.

    Brittany Higgins’ partner has lashed out at her former employer Linda Reynolds, accusing her of discussing a confidential $3 million lawsuit, as signs emerge the Commonwealth is open to settling the claim.

    SEE LINK FOR REST

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    John Connor II

    The Brains of Teenagers Look Disturbingly Different After Lockdown

    The stress of living through pandemic lockdowns has accelerated aging in the brains of teenagers. The effects are similar to those previously observed as a result of violence, neglect, and family dysfunction.

    Even if you’ve left adolescence far behind, you might remember that it can be a tumultuous time in terms of thoughts and feelings, and there’s a lot of reorganizing that goes on in the brain – even without a global pandemic and the associated lockdowns.

    A recent study by researchers from Stanford University and the University of California, San Francisco, concluded the pandemic had ‘sped up’ some of this reorganizing, thinning of the cortex and increasing the size of the hippocampus and the amygdala sections of the brain.

    “We already know from global research that the pandemic has adversely affected mental health in youth, but we didn’t know what, if anything, it was doing physically to their brains,” says psychologist Ian Gotlib, Director of the Stanford Neurodevelopment, Affect, and Psychopathology (SNAP) Laboratory in California.

    The team looked at magnetic resonance imaging ( MRI) brain scans of 81 children taken before the pandemic (between November 2016 and November 2019), and 82 children taken during the pandemic (between October 2020 and March 2022) but after lockdown restrictions had eased (spring 2020, in California).

    Next, the researchers matched children from both groups using factors including sex, age, pubertal status, ethnicity, early life stress, and socioeconomic background, to give them multiple comparison points.

    What the scans showed was that the brain aging process had seemingly accelerated in the post-pandemic group. Lockdown periods of less than a year had resulted in the equivalent of three years of brain aging in the second selection of youngsters.

    Poorer mental health was also noticed in the post-pandemic group, though it’s not clear if that’s directly related to brain age. What this study can’t tell us is whether these changes are going to be permanent, or whether there are further mental health problems that will arise from the accelerated changes in these key brain structures.

    https://www.bpsgos.org/article/S2667-1743(22)00142-2/fulltext

    “Think of the children!”

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      Tel

      Hard times makes ’em grow up fast.

      Hopefully they are cautious about trusting public health authorities from now on. Unfortunate part of human nature … you can’t tell people anything, and they only learn by experiencing it.

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    OldOzzie

    Scientists can’t explain why the unjabbed are protected against infection, ignore elephant in the room

    The globalist cabal that invented and drove the make-believe COVID narrative is facing growing problems, as holes in the logic just keep getting larger over time.

    Case in point: The irrational promotion of vaccine equity.1

    According to the World Health Organization and other globalist strongholds, the Western world must sponsor vaccine deliveries to developing nations to make sure everyone has an equal chance at survival.2 The problem is that developing nations with the lowest COVID jab uptakes have fared no worse, and in some cases far better, than developing countries that greedily “hoarded” shots and boosters for themselves.

    The African Conundrum

    According to early predictions, Africa would be decimated by COVID for lack of shots,3 yet the COVID death toll in Africa has remained consistently lower than anywhere else over the past three years.

    Everyone feigns surprise. No one can figure out why.

    In August 2020, Science magazine reported:4

    “Antibody studies suggest large numbers of infections have occurred but the death toll remains low … After testing more than 3,000 blood donors, Uyoga and colleagues estimated in a preprint5 … that one in 20 Kenyans aged 15 to 64 — or 1.6 million people — has antibodies to SARS-CoV-2, an indication of past infection.

    That would put Kenya on a par with Spain in mid-May6 when that country was descending from its coronavirus peak and had 27,000 official COVID-19 deaths. Kenya’s official toll stood at 100 when the study ended. And Kenya’s hospitals are not reporting huge numbers of people with COVID-19 symptoms.”

    The situation was still the same in November 2021, when media reported that Africa, where fewer than 6% of people had received a COVID shot, was among the countries least affected by COVID. Researchers theorized that “lower rates of urbanization, genetic reasons or exposure to other diseases may have spared the continent the more lethal effects of the virus.”7

    No one in mainstream media has been willing to address any of the towering elephants in the room, which include the fact that the COVID shots don’t prevent cases or deaths, that natural immunity is superior, and that COVID-19 was never as lethal a threat as they said it was.

    Africa gives us real-world evidence of these facts, yet the globalist cabal still insist that “vaccine equity” is an imperative goal.

    Even though places like Africa didn’t have adequate access to COVID shots, and even though they fared just as well or better than the Western world where COVID shot uptake was high, the cabal insist we still need to make sure that, next time, Africa will get the same kind of injection coverage as the rest of the world.

    This makes no sense, especially when you consider that the majority of COVID deaths in the U.S. and elsewhere now occur among those who got the COVID jabs.8

    But, judging by the last three years, they’re not even going to try to make sense of it. Instead, they’ll simply continue to avoid talking about success stories like Africa, where COVID ended up having little impact — probably due to ultra-low injection rates — and when they do talk about it, it’ll continue to be veiled as a medical mystery.

    – What’s Really Behind the Pressing Need for Vaccine Equity?

    – New Wave of Fear-Porn to Drive Vaccination Uptake

    – The Problem With the Tripledemic Narrative

    – COVID Shots Likely Responsible for Soaring RSV Rates in Kids

    – Take Control of Your Family’s Health This Winter Season

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      another ian

      “Vitamin I” and HCQ didn’t get a mention? (/s)

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      Are that the same regions where IVM is given from Merck Donation Program ?

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      Sambar

      Just read at News.com that the peak Actuary body of Australia has called on the government to investigate why the death rate increase 13% over the past 12 months.
      The article suggested that at most average death rates fluctuate only 1 or 2% so an increase of 13% needs to be explained.
      Ever so slowly little snippets of very important information is making the MSM

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      John B

      I charted (in 31 January 2022) the African countries against Australia and found that all the countries, which were under the WHO anti parasite (river sickness) programs of Ivermectin, had less deaths/1 million than Australia. Not just a little, but about 80% had less than half the deaths.
      Those countries which did not participate generally had more deaths/1 million than Australia. If I knew how to post an image of the graphed results here I would.

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      How will you see the elephant if you are inside of it near the exit door ??

      😀

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    David Maddison

    The PM has the ‘Rona, again

    I hope he’s had his full compliment of 5+ jabs plus he is NOT given any IVM (prescribed according to the published protocols). Indeed, I hope he’s had 10 jabs, the same number the Government ordered for us.

    I also trust he’s taking the Government’s own non-advice and NOT correcting any vitamin D deficiency, although it’s too late anyway once you get infected.

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    MrGrimNasty

    German coup nonsense.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63885028
    A couple of dozen people, not even a couple of hundred could effect a coup in a country like Germany, it would end up as a terrorist attack/hostage situation at worst.

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      Saighdear

      That report kinda confirms what I thought they said tonight on a german prog. Three thousand officers took part in 150 operations in 11 of Germany’s 16 states, with two people arrested in Austria and Italy. … so they only got 25 ?
      but the SPIN on it all stinks too ( the analysis ). Who clyped? Sounds like a re-run fail of something not a million miles away.
      Maybe we should all be watching the latest bbc scotland program from my neck of the woods “Traitor” https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001fy7d following on from another great wee gem from Aberdeen “Granite Harbour”

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    John Connor II

    UK PM Rishi Sunak Calls For New Police Powers To Stop “Illegal Protests”

    Problem – Reaction – Solution. British Prime Minister and billionaire associate of the World Economic Forum Rishi Sunak is calling for draconian police powers to deal with “illegal protests,” using the disruptive glue-happy traffic activism of groups like Just Stop Oil as a rationale.

    To be sure, no one likes the fanaticism of Extinction Rebellion protesters, primarily because their movement is based on fear mongering over non-existent man-made global warming. People are not going to be inspired by activists gluing themselves to roads and blocking traffic over a temperature increase of less than 1 degree Celsius in a century. The problem is that the actions of these protesters are being exploited by government officials in order to con the public into supporting police powers that could be used against more legitimate freedom movements tomorrow.

    The prime minister states: “My view is that those who break the law should feel the full force of it.” (JC2 – unless you’re a member of the “club”)

    It should be noted that it is already against the law for people to block road traffic in the UK, for any reason. New police powers are not necessary to deal with this issue. What Sunak really wants is a legal framework to suppress all protests, by asserting the authority to designate some protests “illegal.” Proving once again that there are no real conservative political leaders in the UK, Sunak presents a potential Trojan Horse. While appealing to people’s frustration over climate alarmists, the PM is himself a climate alarmist with suspicious intentions.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uk-pm-rishi-sunak-calls-new-police-powers-stop-illegal-protests

    I’m forced to question the authenticity of these climate protests…

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    John Connor II

    I asked NSW Health for Susan Pearce’s “irrefutable” proof that the Covid vaccines are effective: They want to charge me $630 to find it

    Remember when Susan Pearce, Secretary of NSW Health, said that the ICU data shows, “irrefutably,” that Covid vaccines limit the severity of illness with Covid?

    It was a bold claim, as the NSW data at the time showed quite the opposite. Those with 4+ doses were 1.7x more likely than the average to show up in ICU with Covid, while those with 0 doses were about half as likely (0.6x) to end up in ICU as the rest of the population (on a per 1M capita basis).

    NSW Health officials straight up lied about their own data in budget estimates
    Susan Pearce, Secretary of NSW Health, says that ICU data shows, irrefutably, that Covid vaccines limit the severity of illness with Covid. She says that the “irrefutable” ICU data is justification for workplaces to enforce Covid vaccination as a condition of employment. Watch…

    I was curious to see this “irrefutable” data that Susan Pearce referred to, and so I contacted the NSW Department of Health, who directed me toward the GIPA process to submit my request. I formally submitted my GIPA request on 23 September 2022. Finally, on 30 November, I received a response from the GIPA team.

    Excited to finally see the infamous “irrefutable” data that Susan Pearce so confidently referenced, I opened the letter to find….

    … a bill for $630.

    Why? Because it’s going to take them: 6 hours to locate the data; 9 hours to assess it; and, another 6 hours to compose their response to me.

    For Susan Pearce to have referred to the data, she must have already had it provided to her. Why does it take an estimated 6 hours to search, 9 hours to assess, review and analyse, and another 6 hours to write the decision? You do not need to spend 15 hours searching an analysing – this has obviously already been done, as Susan Pearce is confidently using the data to support her claims about vaccine efficacy.

    https://rebekahbarnett.substack.com/p/i-asked-nsw-health-for-susan-pearces

    It all falls apart more and more by the day…

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      David Maddison

      Has Susan Pearce had her full quota of 10 jabs?

      If not, why not?

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      David Maddison

      Was Pearce a merit placement or a quota hire?

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      farmerbraun

      Remember this from an eminent OZ virologist?

      “But it’s not 100 per cent effective at all … for older people (because) as your immune system gets weaker as you get older.

      “With measles you are protected against it for life. The vaccine kills any virus that gets into your blood.

      “We don’t have a mode that works against other coronaviruses.”

      Prof Frazer, who is currently developing vaccines for cancer, is working with a team of medical scientists on a trial for a coronavirus treatment drug.

      The intervention drug’s purpose is to dampen down the inflammatory response in high-risk coronavirus patients. 

      He said for 99 per cent of people who got coronavirus it was a trivial illness, but that was not the case for those in the vulnerable categories. “

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    Saighdear

    BBC news lunchtime ( Was goin back outto make use of fineweather) HOT OFF THE PRESS: Over 20 ppl arrested in Germany about overthrowing the German government. wow, 25 of them it says incl from Army barracks, Austria & another.

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    David Maddison

    All Australian politicians and public serpents involved in the covid lockups and compulsory experimental vaccines should be made to have 10 jabs, the same number they ordered for regular Aussies.

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    MrGrimNasty

    Gas price rose dramatically before Putin invaded Ukraine, caused by renewables/net zero policy.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/statsjamie/status/1594008811827773441

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      Dennis

      “A price cap on domestic coal supply will distort the coal market, potentially disrupt existing commercial arrangements, create disincentives for coal producers to supply local power stations, and may force some producers to supply coal at a loss, threatening jobs, predominantly in regional coal mining communities. The NSW Government needs to carefully consider the full implications, and consult in detail with the coal sector, before making any commitments on this issue.
      The facts relating to coal supply in NSW provide strong evidence that price caps on domestic coal sales will have little impact on NSW electricity prices.The NSW coal sector exports around 160 million tonnes of coal to over 20 countries around the world. Coal is our state’s most valuable export commodity.Around 20 million tonnes of NSW coal is also supplied to power stations here, and at much lower prices already than global prices for our high quality export coal.Around 80 percent of the coal supplied to NSW power stations is on existing contracts at prices much lower than the global coal price received for exports. The remaining 20 percent of coal needed by NSW power stations is purchased at ‘spot’ prices.
      However, because they are generally older, NSW power stations use a lower quality coal than many of our export customers. This means the spot prices paid for coal here in NSW are also much lower than the higher prices paid for our higher quality export coal. Further, these lower spot prices in NSW are currently at similar levels to before the war in Ukraine.
      Like other industries, coal producers have experienced increased costs due to inflationary and other pressures. Cost increases have been experienced across a range of inputs, including for fuel, labour, equipment, and services, as well as transport costs. Imposing price caps on coal sales in NSW will have little impact on energy prices, but will cause significant damage to the sector, regional mining communities, and the NSW economy. ENDS”

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        Chad

        There is little if any linkage between the price of coal (or gas) and the cost of electricity to consumers.
        Price increases are due entirely to supply shortages and the market costing “auction” system that sets wholesale price.
        Even then the wholesale cost is inly a minor portion of the retail price per kWh, with distribution transmission, and profit margins being the greater part.

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    Greg in NZ

    The ‘Bureau’ is prophesying SNOW for your hill-country today… then ANOTHER cold snowy blast early next week… That’ll mean my 2 nieces and 2 great-nieces, all Australian, will have had their 1st snowy ‘white birthdays’ EVAH.

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      Dennis

      Sunshine and 25C expected for the NSW Mid Coast today so maybe the not so warm period before December has passed?

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      Sambar

      Cold and wet here in the low part of the high country. Down to 4 degrees over night with snow forecast on the higher peaks. I’ll bet this will be the HOTTEST December ever recorded. Just like our one day of summer last week when the temperature rose to 31c.for one day. The news was all over Victorias “mini heat wave”.

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    As always is said by our Germans green politicians, we have no problems with electricity, only with gas.
    So I wonder, why Baden-Würtemberg, one of Germans Federal States why the there used warn app changed from green to red, what means, citizens should reduce the use of electrcity.
    It’s told to be a problem of grid transportation from northern to southern Germany…. hmmm.

    The nuclear reactor Philippsburg has been shut down 31.12.2019 and was supplier situated just in Baden-Würtemberg… hmmm.

    No reasons for deeper thoughts 😀

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    another ian

    “COVID 19 Was Created in Wuhan Lab and Funded by the United States AND Fauci Does Remember”

    https://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2022/12/07/covid-19-was-created-in-wuhan-lab-and-funded-by-the-united-states-and-fauci-does-remember/

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    Saighdear

    Old news rebaked: UK opening a nother Coal Mine in Cumbria. GGB (bbc) giving it big Licks this now. earlier ( this year?) were told it was for special grade coal for steel making. No word about that tonight. U turns & U turns, soon be in a Real Spin. Spinning Sunak, eh? Have just hit the RED Button before I hit something else. C’mon Bob ( the Dog) late night walkies.

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    Dennis

    ““The exceptionally cloudy conditions this spring kept maximum temperatures well down on recent years.

    Melbourne, Adelaide and Canberra all shivered through maximums at least one degree below average and the lowest since 1992. Brisbane’s spring was the coldest in 12 years, and for Perth it was the coldest in six.

    Sydney’s maximums were the lowest in four years but the mean temperatures, which includes the minimums, was the coldest since 2003 and the city failed to reach 30C for the first time in three decades.

    Hobart was colder in 2021 and Darwin does not have a spring.

    Even more unusual is some western suburbs of Sydney, including Penrith, failed to hit 30 degrees for the first time on record.

    This spring was only the second time in a decade the mean maximum averaged across Australia was below the long-term average.

    Of the 42 seasons since winter 2012, the only other season with colder than normal days was summer 2020-2021.””

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    KP

    More subtle propaganda linking Russia to the N*zis…

    German police have arrested 25 people who want to replace the Govt with a monarchy. Fair enough, but I don’t see a monarchy as being involved with communism or fascism, its a horse, a cow and a tree! How does it get reported?

    “Germany has detained 25 members and supporters of a far-right group that the prosecutor’s office said was preparing a violent overthrow of the state to install as national leader a prince who had sought backing from Russia.”

    So instantly they link Russia and Far Right while talking about monarchy, instead of talking about the Far Right and their arch-enemies the Communists, who started in Russia.

    While there is only one country left as Communist, North Korea, all others are equally fascist with elected Govts and total control over private property.

    The part they did get right is this-
    “others believe Germany is under military occupation.”

    ..and it looks like wearing balaclava masks is now standard for Western Police, faceless thugs that cannot be identified for court cases.

    https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/far-right-extremists-arrested-in-germany-on-suspicion-of-planning-armed-coup-20221207-p5c4lg.html

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    Lance

    As Governments forge headlong into economic, social, and political oblivion over “climate change”, a Reminder:

    50 Years of Failed Doomsday Predictions
    https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/50-years-of-failed-doomsday-eco-pocalyptic-predictions-the-so-called-experts-are-0-50/

    120 Years of Climate Scares

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/08/120_years_of_climate_scares.html

    Apparently, being wrong for over 100 years isn’t a deterrent.

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    another ian

    “Apparently, being wrong for over 100 years isn’t a deterrent.”

    In wooly thinking that increases your chances of having a win?

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    Hanrahan

    Rocker Rod Stewart’s 11 yr old son rushed to hospital with suspected heart attack. A rare event obviously.

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