Wednesday Open Thread

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    Gee Aye

    Is it that day of the week again?

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    David Maddison

    Last night I learned of another covid vaccine injury. He was a senior member of my bushwalking club, a very strong walker and out walking every weekend. He is now incapacitated and unable to do bushwalks.

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      Annie

      Very sad David. It is so upsetting to see healthy people being felled in their prime.

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      Brenda Spence

      Graham Hood did an interview with a nurse last night who spoke of many patients she had seen with serious jab injuries. It’s very very sad. I fear for my children and grandchildren who were coerced into getting it or… just trusted the doctors.

      Fb link but it will come up on Rumble later under club grubbery, usually 24 hrs later

      https://fb.watch/hZYvFjxbcC/?mibextid=RUbZ1f

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      GreatAuntJanet

      Saw today that MP Andrew Bridgen has had the whip withdrawn (can no longer vote in Commons as Conservative) by the party after his (excellent) speech in Parliament and also because of a tweet where he quoted a cardiologist saying that the adverse effects of the covid vaccine were the worst thing since the holocaust.

      GB News – gone very downhill these days from a promising start – reporting it as a ‘quite right too’, but on the twitter thread the comments are overwhelmingly in support of Bridgen.
      https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1613220049007054848?cxt=HHwWgMDU2cvFp-MsAAAA

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    David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

    RIP Cardinal Pell.

    But I didn’t know hip surgery could cause heart attacks??

    ” Archbishop of Melbourne Peter Comensoli said Cardinal Pell died “from heart complications following hip surgery”. ”

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-11/cardinal-george-pell-dies-vatican-aged-81/101843096

    Cheers
    Dave B

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      Annie

      RIP George Pell.

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      David Maddison

      He was a target for vicious, relentless attacks by Daniel Andrews, his regime and the Left in general with absurd false claims against him.

      It was part of their general war against Judeo-Christian religious beliefs.

      The way he was treated was a disgrace.

      RIP

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        David Maddison

        Expect Leftist lies against him to be widely promulgated now he’s gone as libel laws no longer apply.

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      Graeme+P.

      At Pells age it’s no so uncommon. Anaesthesia and the trauma of surgery can be enough to make your ticker call it a day.

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    John Connor II

    This is a real ad campaign.

    *Content warning*

    https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1612708851157209090

    The ad campaign:
    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/parade-launches-play-underwear-sizes-015757221.html

    Speaks volumes about fabric strength if nothing else.
    A future diet of crickets will ensure “equality” 😁

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    John Connor II

    UNvaccinated pilots wanted for DAVOS/WEF attendees

    https://twitter.com/MuchemiKimani1/status/1612731110647291904/

    I guess the vaccinated pilots are suffering from climate change sickness…

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    Graeme#4

    Sun Cable, the 25bn enterprise that involved Forrest and Cannon-Brookes, has fallen into administration.
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/forrest-cannonbrookesbacked-sun-cable-collapses-into-administration/news-story/a8a93093cbbdd0074a1b01029d738040
    It claimed to build a huge solar facility in NT, generate 17-20 GW with 36-42 GWh backup, and supply 6.4GW to Singapore over 4800 kms, further than any existing transmission path, and passing through a tectonicaslly active region.
    Apparently Forrest and Cannon-Brookes had different views. Forrest’s Squadron Energy raised concerns that Sun Cable failed to meet its funding milestones and was burning cash at unsustainable rates.
    However, as pointed out by commentators here and in The Australian, the numbers didn’t add up. And the potential Singapore energy buyer shut its retail arm back in October 2021, with no other energy purchaser coming forward.

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      Stanley

      The Impossible Dream.

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      David Maddison

      Not unexpected.

      It was always an absurd project. And who wants their country’s electricity supply dependent on a 4500km long undersea cable thst hostile forces could easily cut?

      But who profited?

      And how many Aussie taxpayer dollars got spent on it?

      https://www.asiafinancial.com/australia-asia-sun-cable-project-wins-government-support

      Infrastructure Australia, an independent government agency, said on Friday the $14 billion (A$20 billion) Sun Cable project – as it is also known – has been assessed and is ready for investment.

      And:

      https://ntrebound.nt.gov.au/news/2022/propelling-the-sun-cable-project-forward-with-new-legislation

      Quotes from Minister for Territory Development Eva Lawler:

      “The Australia-Asia PowerLink will be built here in the Territory. It will be a major economic driver, and it will put the Territory on the international map when it comes to renewables.

      “The legislation provides certainty for the project, and facilitates its implementation which will create over 1,750 jobs during construction and 350 ongoing positions as part of operations.

      “The Australia-Asia PowerLink will transform the Territory into a renewable energy powerhouse and establish a new energy export industry for Australia, with positive flow on benefits for businesses.”

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        Graeme#4

        Commenters in The Australian are asking whether any taxpayer money was involved. It’s difficult to get a handle on this, as the NAIF website doesn’t seem to provide details of govt handouts.

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      David Maddison

      Singapore should just build a nuclear power plant.

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        Dennis

        But they are too expensive according to bloggers, and Minister Bowen, far cheaper to build wind turbines and solar installations.

        sarc.

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          Graeme#4

          The figures I always provide are from the SMRnuclear site, with the extra CCS costs for coal and gas energy removed. The overnight FCOE costs, calculated over the longest lifetime, for a kW are:
          UCS coal: $4800
          CCGT gas: $4112
          Nuclear SMR: $5596
          Wind: $12372
          Solar: $14882

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      David Maddison

      Are modern engineers so dumbed-down that it was not obvious to them, or anyone else, present company excepted, that this was a ridiculous project?

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        Simon Thompson M.B. B.S. (hons)

        Can you please calculate the line losses of a 4500 Km cable run for me Mr Maddison ? I understand a state network covering e.g. 500 Km has 15% loss…

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          Graeme#4

          Have just calculated the loss as a comment in The Australian. HVDC line loss is said to be 3.5%/1000 kms, some folks say 3%. As Graeme No 3 pointed out back in 2020, these losses are cumulative, so I calculate 14% for the 4200 kms of undersea cable. For the 800km transmission line, I’m presuming this is HVAC, so it’s loss should be around 5%. Then AC to DC conversion losses at each end of the HVDC cable, 0.7%, say 2% total. This gives 21% loss. Graeme 3 said 24% total loss, so the figures seem about right.

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            Graeme#4

            I should also point out that Chad, Graeme No 3 and IainC of the Ponds all made some excellent comments about the technical aspects of this system. See their comments, 16-17 March 2020. Excellent work gents.

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        Graeme#4

        David, having worked for a large engineering company, when the CEO gets an idea into their head, no technical negative comments will cause them to change their mind. It’s only when the whole project goes pear-shaped that they finally move to limit the damage. And they don’t fire the staff responsible for the decision. In one case I know of, the company lost more than $500 million with one key bad decision, the person responsible for the advice was promoted to a position with a salary of $320,000, and the CEO left with a golden handshake of around $30 million.
        As one of those who provided some of the negative comments, the personal loss for me was around $200,000. C’est la vie.

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      Clem Cadiddlehopper

      Anyone with any sense is deserting Twiggys loopy outfit. ” Australia’s richest man Andrew “Twiggy” Forrest has been delivered a fresh major blow as yet another executive walked away from his company Fortescue Metals, which is bleeding senior staff.”

      “The mining magnate lost another key lieutenant as his chief financial officer Ian Wells quit on Monday, bringing the number of executives who have left Fortescue in the past two years to close to 20.”

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        Steve of Cornubia

        I learned in business, especially when serving on a team devoted to acquiring other scientific instrument businesses, that you should pay attention whenever a CFO walks away.

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          Graeme#4

          And that’s not the only key personnel loss that they have had in the past six months – a lot of key staff, including the CEO, have left.

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      Serge Wright

      The Sun Cable was the type of project where you could safely make the bet of running naked down George St at peak hour if it did get legs. Aside from the crazy costs and the massive environmental impact, the idea of transporting electricity in an undersea cable over several thousand km, across the most active tectonic plate boundary on the planet is beyond crazy. What we do know is that huge sums of hedge fund money was invested and now lost forever, but when vast sums of money are spent, someone has benefited. This is a case of follow the money.

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        Hanrahan

        Has any construction started yet? If not there won’t be contractors defrauded.

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          Graeme#4

          I believe no. But they seemed to have burned through quite a few millions of dollars.

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          Dave

          Nothing built at all
          All boardroom costs etc
          Loose Canon was the Chairman of Sun Solar and Twiggy didn’t like the millions he got in salary for ZERO return.

          Loose Canon & Twiggy are both losing $ hand over fist at the moment.

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            Chad

            Well there could be some loosers..

            “Sun Cable have established an office in the Territory and have employed more than a dozen Darwin firms for initial works,”

            And i have also read that they were doing sub sea geo surveys etc along the proposed cable route..
            ….that is not a low cost exercise if true .

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            Chad

            Loose Canon & Twiggy are both losing $ hand over fist at the moment.

            Well, they ( or their organisations ?), initially chipped in $200+ m between them
            ..but that is not much more than pocket money to a multi billionair. !

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    John Connor II

    436 BILLION copies of spike protein circulating freely in plasma, a month after the Gene therapy vaccine.
    In kids.

    But in some of these cases the concentration of spike is RISING 20 days after vaccination (see the red lines going up), so we have no idea how much is actually circulating.

    But the worst thing about the Yonker #myocarditis study is this – and you might not have realised.

    The study showed, beyond a shadow of doubt, that the COVID “vaccine” was causing myocarditis, with elevated troponin (confirming heart damage).

    But it didn’t matter that young people were getting myocarditis (with a known 5-year mortality of up to 50%). What mattered is finishing the study so they could publish.

    https://twitter.com/Jikkyleaks/status/1611465508616036353

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    David Maddison

    Dr John Campbell talks about excess deaths, supposedly all those mysterious deaths that have nothing to do with the experimental untested covid vaccines.

    https://youtu.be/B3_bqcvDxvI

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    Sambar

    Summer may have finally arrived in my low part of the high country. A few days in the mid to high 30’s all of the required government warnings re looking after the oldies, drink water etc. etc. Some observations on the season and its differences.
    1/ Cockatoos which normally arrive in large numbers in December are not here. It looks like a bumper crop of most fruits this year.
    2/ The pardalotes that have normally returned to the tree tops continue to feed on the roses looking for thrips and scales
    3/ the little birds of prey are absent. Letter wing kites , kestrels and brown goshawks have not arrived.
    4/ The wood ducks are pumping out clutch after clutch with the latest batch of hatchlings swimming it the dam
    5/Most veggies are not progressing however the good old standbys like zucchinis thrive, the egg plants not so much, the grapes are heavily blighted so no fuit this year.
    6/ The cold climate stuff like plums have done well, only so much puree and jam you can eat, dried a couple of k’s for prunes.
    7/ Dandy lions and sow thistles continue to provide salad greens. Don’t laugh they are free and fed people since the begining of time.
    8/ the kangaroos are still widely dispursed so much food around they don’t need to gather on the better ground.
    All in all a bit different this year but nothing unprecedented.Everything follows the food supply and the critters are certainly making hay while the season is gentle.
    Life, my fellow bloggers, is good.

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      Annie

      Your cockatoos are at our place Sambar! You should see the wreckage under our big old apple trees, not to mention Japanese pears, plums and all the vandalised tree branches.

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        Annie

        Grapes looking ok so far, until the birds, ants and wasps get into them, that is.

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        Sambar

        Sorry Annie, That explains why they aren’t at my place. Back in the day when the world had a different view of things the cockies used to be trapped and canned and sent to the U.K.as Australian snipe. Times have changes.
        The wasps are also conspicious by their absence hope they contiune to be MIA

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          robert rosicka

          We had euro wasps about two months ago in numbers but they were twice the size of the normal ones , the big green shed sell a high pressure instant wasp killer that throws about 12 feet . None now thank god , as for cockies they have done some damage to the ornamental pears and one of the windows on the house but think I’ve solved that problem.

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          Annie

          How sensible that was, tinned cockatoo! Yum!
          We try to catch any queen wasps we see when they emerge from our stored firewood, though not always successfully. The summer before last I had to deal with no fewer than 6 nests in the banks of the water race. By standing on the east side, looking towards the sunset, I could see where the wasps were flying in and pinpoint the nest for treatment after dark. Well wrapped and cautiously, for fear of snakes, and with a blue polybag over the torch, I climbed down into the water race and liberally sprinkled the Baygon wasp and ant killer powder; a horrible job. It worked eventually, after finding all the nests. I didn’t find the remote squirty stuff work well; certainly not the distance it claimed.

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          My father had a simple recipe for Cockatoo. All you needed was a pot to boil it in and a few bits of Blue metal gravel. Just put it all in the pot and boil until the Blue metal is soft. Then the Cockatoo is ready to eat.

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            Annie

            That reminds me of Jack Absolom’s recipe for cooking a parrot. When the rock softens the bird is done!

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      mareeS

      In my suburban Newcastle garden tomatoes this year are a bust. No bees (varroa mite means many local hives have been destroyed) and not much sunshine, so very poor crop yield over 4 varieties and 1doz plants. Chillies are doing ok indoors. No wattle birds or peewits nesting in the yard this year, usually we have a few pairs of each in our native trees. No butcher birds either, but magpies have been around the neighbourhood. Cockatoos a-plenty.

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        Annie

        We have plenty of bees year round; there is always something in flower here.
        Lots of little khaki coloured birds turn up in the summer to add to the mayhem in the old orchard; they are apt to commit suicide in the stock water troughs too. I have to fish 2 or 3 out each summer…yuk.

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        Kalm Keith

        Yes, cockatoos over near BlekButt.

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    David Maddison

    Who would be ignorant enough and stupid enough to be hostile toward Novak Djokovic when last year he did exactly the right thing by refusing to comply with the Australian Government’s compulsory experimental covid vaccine mandate?

    At least he won’t be dropping dead on the tennis court.

    https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/sport/australian-open-2023-tennis-australia-boss-issues-warning-to-fans-as-novak-djokovic-returns-to-compete-in-melbourne/news-story/ad7732638727015d75dc0d2558cb2b0e

    Australian Open 2023: Tennis Australia boss issues warning to fans as Novak Djokovic returns to compete in Melbourne

    Tennis fans flocking to Melbourne Park to watch the Australian Open have been warned they will be booted from the site if they target returning star Novak Djokovic.

    SEE LINK FOR REST

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    Kalm Keith

    Woden was a powerful God.

    He demanded that one day of the week be named after him.

    https://joannenova.com.au/2023/01/wednesday-open-thread-24/#comment-2621769

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    Cookster

    I see Twiggy’s sun cable is on the skids. Twiggy Forrest and fellow billionaire rent seeker Mike Cannon Brooks can’t agree. It’s come down to prohibitive transmission and storage costs. No doubt they expected Australian taxpayers to subsidise more.

    It sickens me such money making ventures are even mooted when the same people can’t explain how the lights can stay on in Australia when our largest coal plants are decommissioned in the next few years. The politics when this happens will be interesting. Nobody likes blackouts.

    Note: This is behind a paywall

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/forrest-cannonbrookesbacked-sun-cable-collapses-into-administration/news-story/a8a93093cbbdd0074a1b01029d738040

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    Graeme#4

    Two good articles in The Australian today on nuclear energy. One very good one by Ted O’Brien, Coalition energy spokesman. He recently visited Japan and talked to folks there. He noted that a 2021 report by Japan’s Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry found that nuclear energy is cheaper than wind or solar, and commented that Japan is now expanding its use of nuclear energy.

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      Gary S

      Japan – the only country to suffer devastation by nuclear weapons, but still smart enough to see the benefits of nuclear energy, even though they could hardly be blamed for eschewing the use of it.

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    another ian

    FWIW

    Alexander M today

    https://rumble.com/v24rxrq-russia-presses-ukraine-in-soledar-bakhmut-ukraine-mulls-retreat-patrushev-s.html

    The start is what might/might not be going on in the Donbas area.

    But tune in at around 25 min in with reporting on a news item from a US military bigwig (what Minsk 2?) and things in the Pacific followed by things from an interview from a Russian biggerwig

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    Dave

    Nothing built at all
    All boardroom costs etc
    Loose Canon was the Chairman of Sun Solar and Twiggy didn’t like the millions he got in salary for ZERO return.

    Loose Canon & Twiggy are both losing $ hand over fist at the moment.

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      Hanrahan

      All carried forward losses tax deductible.

      So we still subsidise their folly.

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        Tel

        The tax deduction applies against the same business making a future profit doing the work that they already paid to bootstrap the business.

        This is because tax is applied to profits and the way to calculate profits is revenue less costs. It’s pretty simple really … many types of business require initial costs to get started (i.e. loss because there is no revenue in those early years) and then start getting up to speed after which they become profitable (i.e. revenue goes up and costs go down). They are not taxed until the total revenue is larger than the total cost, that being the normal way to figure out profits.

        You can by all means suggest a different system and scrap the income tax. We can go back to import duties which were much lower … I’m happy with that.

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    liberator

    So according to a news story from the UN I saw on the TVee while having a pub dinner, “We’ve fixed the ozone hole”

    ABC https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-10/united-nations-says-ozone-layer-is-healing/101839296

    Well not quite, its “repairing” sorry healing, (so its a living thing) and will take another 40 years to be fully fixed.

    So we’ll need another 80 years to get rid of that nasty carbon out of the atmosphere and it will be healed as well?

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    Honk R Smith

    POTUS confuses Salvation Army with Secret Service after being introduced to Salvation Army.
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/YkSeO7Yb5MI9/
    I think he drove a semi for the Secret Service when he was growing up with asthma caused by fossil fuels in a black Puerto Rican neighborhood being raised by a trans single mom after his father had been killed in Iraq.

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    MrGrimNasty

    In case you have any doubt about how the BBC is not ever going to change its tune on vaccines. OK, by comparing to the Holocaust, he showed a severe lack of judgement, but note the whole tone of the article and how they discredit him and the idea of vaccine harm.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64236687

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    Anton

    https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/10/08/100-years-of-climate-data-deleted-from-canadian-policy-report-including-historic-high-and-low/

    Environment Canada omitted 100 years’ worth of weather data from a federal website intended to illustrate climate change. Staff also used “modeling” instead of actual temperature readings to plot dramatic graphs, but said the result was not intended to be misleading. “The historical data is not observed historical data,” said Samantha Bayard, spokesperson for the department. “It is modeled historic data”… government cataloged temperature measurements collected between 1850-1949 were replaced by 24 models and historical simulations based on data collected from 1950-2005. The ministry claims the readings were excluded because the number of weather stations nationwide wasn’t “dense” enough… [In fact] Vancouver was hotter in 1910 than it was in 2017. Toronto was warmer in 1852 than it was in 2017 and Moncton was warmer in 1906 than in 2017.

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      Gadjo Dilo

      Anton! They told me you might be here. Hope you are keeping well. Several ex-Cranmerites congregate at a blog run by Happy Jack.

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        Gadjo Dilo

        Oh dear they seem to have obtained a mugshot. I will see if I can remove that, the pictures are better on radio…

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        Anton

        Hiya Gadjers, I’m well thank you and I hope you are too. Jack is running his blog well (and I wish him well) but it is inevitably Catholic in emphasis and I don’t wish to behave there as he did at Cranmer. I’ll keep perusing it from time to time, and I comment here about every other thread on average.

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          Gadjo Dilo

          Yes, it’s a Happy Jack blog but we have Mr Bell (and a bunch of Prods) there to keep him humble. I’d like to frequent this one, but I’m in the habit of getting similar content from other sources so I’m not sure that I will be. If you are on any Cranmer-esque blogs I’d be happy to hear about them.

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      Ian George

      The BoM , NASA and Hadley all do the same ‘remodelling’. The BoM have developed ACORN1 and 2 which has been used to adjust the original raw data recorded by SS manual sites.
      But now even the past 20 years or so has also been adjusted if you compare the yearly climate summaries with the trend series graphs.
      For instance, 2001 and 2011 both had below average mean temps – not anymore they’re don’t.

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      b.nice

      That sounds like they are doing the Australian BoM trick of “losing” data that doesn’t fit their agenda.

      But to pretend a model gives real temperatures.. that is just total non-science.

      The results are meaningless except as manic propaganda.

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    Is the data from this 1954 Canberra Stevenson screen an official secret?
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2900012

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    another ian

    “The Final Nail in The Coffin Of “Renewable” Energy”

    “And that’s it. In plain English, the maximum possible fraction of total grid generation contributable by unreliables turns out to be equal to the average fraction of the nameplate capacity of those reliables that is realistically achievable under real-world conditions.”

    More at

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/01/11/the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-renewable-energy/

    No doubt mathematics will be even more racist?

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    el+gordo

    ‘The seesawing between El Niño and La Niña is a natural phenomenon. But it remains to be seen whether the triple La Niña was a statistical fluke or a sign of disruption from climate change.’ (The Conversation)

    Neither.

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      el+gordo

      No historical precedence for a Modoki?

      ‘The La Nina climate has over-achieved and is likely to continue another couple of months after oceanic La Nina has ended. The La Nina climate, based on MEI should last to June.

      ‘The second half of next year favors El Nino although forecast confidence is low. Last year, a similar forecast failed. However, there is no historical precedent for La Nina to continue into mid-to-late 2023. Whether El Nino forms or not from a historical point of view has mixed results.’ (Climate Impact Company)

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    Lance

    Jeff Beck has passed away. RIP. 1944-2023. http://www.jeffbeck.com/1944-2023/

    From the album “Truth”, 1968

    I ain’t Superstitious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNcJGWQsz1Q

    Shapes of Things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXobprclSak

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    another ian

    Several back handers here

    https://youtu.be/mV9PC-ArYjg

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    Peter C

    I am told that the flood level on the Fitzroy river is the highest ever, exceeding the previous record by 3m.
    Does anyone have further information?

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    yarpos

    One for the revheads

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxDz0Z066NI

    That period were the Rally world went made with the Group B, too fast cars. At one stage the co driver thinks they are cooked and then has to catch up as they make it and the driver keeps pushing.

    Never understood why spectators stand anywhere near the outside exits of a fast corner, but there they are in their 100s

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      Steve of Cornubia

      I was there. I loved the Manx rally, which at that time I think was the only pace note event in the UK, on tarmac and possibly the forests too.

      I still enjoy rallying and photographs club and national events here in SEQ. Sadly, Australia doesn’t host a round of the WRC, so we miss out on seeing the very top level of the sport. It’s something I miss terribly. Back in the UK I had so many incredible events and tracks within two or three hours the average Aussie wouldn’t believe it. A track called Oulton Park, where in 1971 I watched the likes of Jackie Stewart and Emerson Fittipaldi race their F1 cars in the ‘Gold Cup’, was so close i could hear the cars from my house, which made gardening at the weekends a frustrating affair!

      All that said, I no longer enjoy F1, which has been emasculated and turned into politically-correct theatre. I have no doubt that environmentalists will kill it completely within ten years. There will never be another James Hunt!

      My current favourite motorsport is offroad racing, which involves high-powered racing trucks and buggies going at silly-kph around dirt tracks. Very photogenic. I will always have a soft spot for karting. I raced in karts myself between 1978 and 1992 or so, plus a bit of rallying.

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    https://twitter.com/realstewpeters/status/1613380502009913345

    4Chan leaked the WHO Covid manual, and we have it ALL!

    It was ALL pre-scripted, and they can’t hide anymore

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