Wednesday Open Thread

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      Gee Aye

      A quarter of the words in the title are “If” and “could” which suggests that some models give some modellers some confidence that it might be El Nino.

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        el+gordo

        The modellers cannot agree, but ‘all lead forecast models are projecting El Nino by June with Bureau of Meteorology/Australia strongest and NCEP CFS V2 weakest. The Climate Impact Company June Nino34 SSTA forecast is +0.2C although El Nino onset is forecast to follow in JUL/AUG.’

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          Mike Jonas

          Australia’s Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) is expecting neutral ENSO:

          “La Niña continues in the tropical Pacific, but has weakened from its peak in spring 2022. Though ocean temperatures have warmed in recent weeks, atmospheric indicators are largely unchanged and remain at La Niña levels. La Niña typically increases the chance of above average rainfall for northern and eastern Australia during summer.

          Long-range forecasts suggest that tropical Pacific Ocean temperatures will continue to warm and be at ENSO-neutral levels (neither La Niña nor El Niño) during February, with a change in atmospheric patterns towards neutral levels likely to follow. As accuracy is generally lower for long-range forecasts made at this time of year, ENSO outlooks that extend past autumn should be viewed with caution.”

          BOM tend to be pretty good re ENSO (El Nino, La Nina). Note that ‘Autumn’ is southern hemisphere autumn, ie. Mar-May.

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      Re those modellers…

      ‘If wishes were horse,
      Beggars would ride.’

      ‘We’re not good at prediction.’/Philip Tetlock.

      Say who predicted the last three consecutive La Ninas?
      Certainly not the plethora of modellers…
      https://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/CMIP5-90-models-global-Tsfc-vs-obs-thru-2013.jpg

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      Gee Aye

      who is asking?

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        el+gordo

        Its all the talk because of the Voice.

        In the late 19th century we had wet and dry towns, it worked reasonably well for awhile. Should they bring back total bans?

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      Graham Richards

      I see there’s a demand we all pay rent to the First Nation for the land on which we own or rent our homes. They mention rent of 1% of income for everybody!

      Can you even begin to imagine the demands from The Aboriginal & Torres Straight Islander industry should THE VOICE ever be legislated. You’ve been warned!

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        crakar24

        California want to bring in reparations as follows:

        5 Million one off payment to all eligible plus all debts wiped plus $97K per year for the next 250 years

        The voice looks like a cheap option LOL

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        Dennis

        Approximately 100,000 Australians are fully descended from Australian Aboriginal families, the remained who claim Aboriginal ancestry have other ancestors who were not.

        At the last census 810,000 Australians registered claiming Aboriginal ancestry.

        How could we today be held responsible for the actions and behaviour of long since deceased people who arrived from 26 January 1788 and established colonial governments over time beginning with New South Wales, and how could their descendants full or part ancestry claim compensation? I understand Native Title (Mabo) based on evidence of continuous occupation of land, but have many doubts about most of the claims that succeeded, but moving past that please explain how land not claimed could be rental property?

        The Aboriginal Industry of activists are a small minority of the 810,000 Australians who claim indigenous ancestry, being no more than 3.7 per cent of Australia’s population of about 26 million people. They are stirring up problems and re-writing history and making history up for political purposes.

        We today have no responsibility for past history and events, we can only change the future and concentrate on helping disadvantaged Australians. Cultural differences are a big problem, and languages barriers, and of course education including how to survive and prosper in a modern economy and multicultural nation.

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        el+gordo

        ‘You’ve been warned!’

        Dutton won’t go that far in his effort to get a NO vote.

        The discussion is all about intoxicants and the best way forward, to stop the looting and domestic violence, ban alcohol and replace it with medicinal cannabis.

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          crakar24

          What? replace alcohol with medicinal cannabis! what would that achieve?

          The aborigines in AS are very bad, i have seen some horrible things in my time up there and banning grog and handing out medicinal cannabis wont fix it

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            el+gordo

            Some of the communities want to stay dry, while others prefer to stay wet. Once they sort that out (no easy task) it would be of great benefit to have medicinal cannabis as a substitute intoxicant.

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        Ian George

        OK – let’s pay those reparations through the local council rates to the local Aboriginal council. Conditions.
        1. Payment is tax deductible.
        2. No payments from govt for extra funding as is the case now – all monies raised from reparations to be used for Aboriginal health, housing, etc.
        3. No special concessions re locking up the land (eg Mt Warning, Eyres Rock).

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      KP

      Billions paid the Maoris and they are still queuing up for ownership of all Council’s infrastructure and the water in NZ… For some reason Aussies tell me it will never happen here.. Lol! better leave the UN and burn all those treaties right away!

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        Dennis

        Former Labor MP and Cabinet Minister Gary Johns has written a new book on the cultural differences of Australian Aboriginal clans or tribal groups and how they cannot understand our way of life. An example he gave during an interview recently was an indigenous art gallery that sold various paintings and paid the painters a fair share of the prices paid.

        A short time later the painters returned asking for more money and they could not understand how the sale transaction works, that they get paid once.

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        Earl

        The Maori is not indigenous and they only beat the white fella by around 300 years.

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      A happy little debunker

      It would appear that there are some pro-voice advocates that would decry Federal race-based laws (over alcohol sales).

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    el+gordo

    BoM tweaked Oodnadatta because they can.

    https://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=7078

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    David Maddison

    Yesterday I spoke to someone I hadn’t spoken to for about three years and I was alarmed to discover that they had a severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS). He kept bringing up Trump, but the conversation had nothing to do with that, not even politics. I kept on changing subjects and not responding to his TDS, but he kept bring it up again.

    Since he was a former small business owner, it was quite strange he would have the condition.

    A very disturbing condition to have.

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    John Connor II

    Pakistan suffered a nationwide blackout, local authorities are investigating the cause and suspect it was the result of a cyberattack.

    On Monday, a nationwide blackout in Pakistan left millions of people in the darkness, and the authorities are investigating if it was caused by a cyberattack. The power outage impacted all the major cities in Pakistan.

    The good news is that authorities were able to restore power across Pakistan within 24 hours.
    “Pakistan‘s energy minister said on Tuesday there was a “remote chance” that hackers could be behind a grid failure that led to two days of nationwide blackout.” reported the Independent. “Khurram Dastgir told the media that the country’s power supply has been restored.”

    According to the media, some power generation units had been intentionally and temporarily turned off on Sunday night to save energy expenditure, a common procedure in the winter, but operators were not able to to turn on again them on Monday morning. The investigators have yet to shed light on the problems that occurred on Monday morning.

    https://securityaffairs.com/141288/hacking/pakistan-nationwide-power-outage.html

    The year of cyberattacks is here.
    No doubt everyone is prepared.😉

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      Ronin

      Have they upset the CCCCCCCP recently.

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        Ted1.

        How is their power generated? They have high mountains and a mighty river.

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          Greg in NZ

          And freezing temps & feats of snow [sic] & avalanches & cold, so very cold & dark.

          Stumbled onto BBC on AM radio last night and was surprised to hear of COLD + SNOW in Pakistan & Afghanistan & China & Japan & others… Thought those ‘den!er’ words were banned on the Beeb.

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    John Connor II

    Live bugs found in choccy. One to avoid.

    https://twitter.com/shae33172/status/1617743356498702339

    That’s a surprise and not a kinder one either.

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      John Connor II

      Insects now being added to your food

      In two days an EU regulation will go into effect that allows for ‘acheta domesticus’, aka house crickets, to be added to flour, bread, pasta etc. as an ‘authorised novel food for the general population’.

      They want you to eat bugs without you knowing it.

      https://twitter.com/EvaVlaar/status/1617294739921047552

      Always read the labels!

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        John Connor II

        Insects for dinner? 58% can see a future where bugs replace beef.

        Given the number of health benefits, the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations has called for increased efforts towards destigmatizing insect consumption. In the current study, researchers from Universitat Oberta de Catalunya (UOC) surveyed 1,034 people on their views about eating insects. More than four in five (86%) have never eaten an insect, with only 13 percent saying they’ve tried it at least once.

        The main reason for passing on insects is disgust. The poll finds 38 percent say it grosses them out, with another 15 percent saying it’s not a part of their culture to eat bugs. Nine percent had concerns about the safety of eating insects.

        Even when the study authors asked people to consider incorporating insects into their normal diet, many people rejected the idea. Only 16 percent would be open to the possibility. Dining in a restaurant offering insect dishes did not do much to sway the poll’s stance on insect consumption. Nearly three in four (73%) say they would not select this option.

        Despite consistent rejection and disgust over eating insects, scientists are hopeful people will become open-minded over time. In another survey, 50 percent of respondents believe having information on insects as a sustainable food source would encourage people to eat them.

        https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/19/23/15756

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        David Maddison

        I’d be willing to bet that neither house crickets nor any other insect were on the menu at the WEF banquets or on the private jet flights to and from said event.

        I also bet there were hardly any, if any vegan or vegetarian meals served either.

        I would be only slightly surprised if I discovered that human flesh was on the menu.

        But they already serve crickets in 1000 Aussie schools. Where are the parental complaints or kids’ complaints for that matter?

        https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/09/1000-australian-schools-are-fed-insects/

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    John Connor II

    They knew: why didn’t the unvaccinated do more to warn us?

    The unvaccinated knew what we didn’t. Some of them said too little. Most said nothing at all. A lot of blood is now on their hands.
    As the world struggles to come to terms with the devastating effects of the COVID-19 pandemic, one question that continues to surface is why the unvaccinated didn’t do more to warn us about the potential dangers of being injected.
    While well intending citizens lined up, did the right thing, and received their COVID19 vaccinations — now seeming to do more harm than good — their unvaccinated friends stood by and let them do it. Some of them said too little. Some said nothing at all.

    Even though they knew what we didn’t.
    Our blood is now on their hands.
    Those are strong words. But the unvaccinated had access to important information about the potential side effects of vaccines. They knew about the risks of severe allergic reactions, blood clots, and other serious health complications. They knew that vaccines did not immunize us. They knew it wasn’t effective, and that they can cause more harm than good.

    They knew all of that, but instead of warning us, the unvaccinated chose to remain silent. They chose to look the other way and not speak out about the potential dangers of vaccines. They let millions of good folks who did the right thing (at the time) fall to death and disease, and many antivaxxers even gloated online about how their coin flip had been the right bet. The more diabolical even urged folks they disagree with to “get boosted.”

    https://iqfy.com/unvaccinated-silence/

    Can’t wait for the replies on this one!

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      KP

      Surely that’s the Onion… Its got to be some trolling site!

      The second article was about how the vaxxed are suffering discrimination and hate from the 5% of people who are unvaxxed.. We are such a small minority we couldn’t have any effect on the 95% of the population who are vaxxed!

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        Memoryvault

        No. It’s an Amazon Affiliate site.

        And comments have been switched off because some were so nasty that they triggered the poor Moderators so much they had to quit. Poor diddums.

        Somehow I can’t see that happening here.

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      b.nice

      ” But the unvaccinated had access to important information about the potential side effects of vaccines.”

      EVERYONE had access to important information about the potential (now realised) side effects of the jab.

      All they had to do was visit a realist or not-far-left web site, (such as JoNova), to know there was likely to be major issues.

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      b.nice

      “the unvaccinated chose to remain silent.”

      Wrong.. They were SILENCED, by the MSM, the social(ist) forum-type web sites (Twit, tube, Farcebook etc etc)

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      David Maddison

      I can’t tell if that’s a joke, troll or real.

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      Ted1.

      Now you are being real silly! The unvaccinated were harassed, even threatened, high and low.

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        william x

        “The unvaccinated were harassed, even threatened, high and low.”

        Sadly Ted, it is still happening to this day.

        To all,

        This is a media report on vaccine mandates that are occurring right now in my workplace.

        Titled:

        ‘It’s lunacy’: Vaccine mandates (are) still forcing professional firefighters off the job

        https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/national/its-lunacy-vaccine-mandates-still-forcing-professional-firefighters-off-the-job/video/28bad5f265840d754f34d3eeb0e902b1

        The link above shows a video recorded on Jan 19, 2023.

        Chris Kenny (Sky News) spoke to Steve McDonald from the Australian Firefighters Alliance about the issue.

        Kenny: “It seems extraordinary to me that there are now hundreds of firefighters in New South Wales and Victoria – some still being paid, mind you –
        but they’re not actively helping to save lives and prevent fires because they’re not vaccinated,”

        “It astounds me that this lunacy still applies when it comes to firefighters in our two largest states.”

        My comment:

        The NSW Government still have this policy in place, 25th Jan 2023:

        “Some workplaces may still require mandatory vaccination against COVID-19 under their own applicable work, health and safety obligations.”

        https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/vaccination/requirements-for-workers

        The madness needs to stop.

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          Ted1.

          “Health and safety obligations”.

          Surely that is a chink in their armour.

          So much of our modern social management is founded in a perception of threatened litigation, real or imagined, mostly imagined.

          Here they are looking up the wrong side of the coin. Somebody is needed to shift their fear onto getting penalised for maintaining this policy.

          This would probably be best done by somebody suing an employer in the private sector.

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      The unvaxxed wrote about, talked about, and were censored.

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      Fran

      When someone desperately needs hip surgery, you say nothing because without the vax, the person is at the bottom of a very long list.

      It is also damaging to attack someone’s faith in their doctor.

      I pursuaded an elderly neighbour not to get another booster. She went for her flu shot and was given the booster at the same time. 2 weeks later she had a stroke.

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      Tides of Mudgee

      If I got a dollar for every time someone’s eyes glazed over when I explained the volumes of information I had read and the interviews I’d seen with vaccinologists, virologists, pathologists, specialists, heart surgeons and doctors of all kinds who were desperate to get people to understand the dangers of this bloody jab, just so that they understood I was not voicing my own opinion, but that I had done my due diligence as indeed should they, I would be wealthy indeed. Not once did anyone ask what sites they could go to to find things out. NOT ONCE. ToM

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    John Connor II

    Ukraine Rocked By Corruption Scandal, Wave Of Top Officials Resign: Sports Cars, Mansions & Luxury Vacations As People Suffered

    The Ukrainian government on Tuesday confirmed the resignation of multiple high ranking officials amid large-scale corruption allegations, in what’s being called the biggest mass resignation and graft scandal since the Russian invasion began.

    Some dozen officials have quit their posts after a huge political shake-up over allegations and probes into cases ranging from bribery, to mismanagement of aid funds for purchasing food, to embezzlement, to driving expensive cars while common people suffer under wartime conditions.

    A top presidential adviser and four deputy ministers – among these two defense officials, along with five regional governors were forced out of their posts. And among the regional governors to step down included officials overseeing regions which have seen intense fighting, including the Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions, where Russian forces have lately reported gains.

    But starting in early December local Ukrainian outlets, angered at the posh lifestyle of Ukrainian leaders at a moment tens of millions are without power amid Russian aerial bombardment of the nation’s power grid, began confirming that Tymoshenko drove high-end sports cars in and out of the capital, to and from mansions which typically range in cost from $10,000 to $25,000 per month.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-rocked-corruption-scandal-wave-top-official-resignations-sports-cars-mansions

    I don’t normally cover the reality of the NATO proxy war but I felt an urge to stick it to the Zelensky supporters and couldn’t resist.
    …waits for downvotes…😆

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    John Connor II

    Wednesday flashback: In 2003 Australians Were Threatened With Prosecution For Claiming Face Masks Worked Against Viruses

    Twenty years ago Australians who tried to sell surgical face masks on the back of claims that they worked against viruses, were threatened with prosecution and massive fines by the government.

    An article published by the Sydney Morning Herald in 2003 and titled ‘Farce mask: it’s safe for only 20 minutes’ explained how, “Retailers who cash in on community fears about SARS by exaggerating the health benefits of surgical masks could face fines of up to $110,000.”

    “Those masks are only effective so long as they are dry,” said Professor Yvonne Cossart of the Department of Infectious Diseases at the University of Sydney.

    “As soon as they become saturated with the moisture in your breath they stop doing their job and pass on the droplets.”

    https://www.infowars.com/posts/australians-were-once-prosecuted-for-claiming-face-masks-worked-against-viruses/

    Posted as Billy Goat Gates is warning of a “man-made pandemic worse than Covid” from his current trip to Oz.

    It’s not Covid you have to worry about but what comes after it.
    Now where have I heard that before? 😎

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    John Connor II

    Wednesday flashback WTF. In car booze dispenser

    https://64.media.tumblr.com/e20c2822bd13e696ed2da9176ff3b9ea/76e8543104284d96-9c/s1280x1920/088f90251f63d31c781243f165b4833fdee6dbd6.jpg

    This was actually a real product back in the day!

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      David Maddison

      For those wondering if that ad is real or not, this author believes it is authentic.

      http://bottlesboozeandbackstories.blogspot.com/2020/05/?m=1

      For years I harbored doubts whether the ad from the Bock Auto Bar Company of Milwaukee was authentic.  It discusses “dusty roads” making motorists thirsty and prescribes the “Auto Beer Bar” as a remedy:  “Your favorite beverage on tap all the time.  Invaluable in traffic jams or on Sundays.”  The illustration shows a gent gleefully filling a goblet with beer from one of two barrels installed under the dashboard.  From the perspective of the present day this would seem to be a spoof.  Those who have investigated, including me, a former Milwaukeean, have concluded that the evidence is on the side of the ad’s legitimacy.  

      SEE LINK FOR REST

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    David Maddison

    For those in Sydney and Melbourne wishing to see Dr Peter McCullough and Dr Pierre Kory, tickets have already sold out but the organisers are trying to secure more tickets. Some Gold Coast tickets remain.

    See Eventbrite for details.

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    David Maddison

    Another person in there twenties mysteriously drops dead.

    No cause of death has been stated yet, so best not jump to conclusions. Just keep your thoughts to yourself at this time.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/american-fashion-model-jeremy-ruehlemann-dead-27/

    American Fashion Model Jeremy Ruehlemann Dead at 27

    By Jim Hoft
    Published January 23, 2023

    SEE LINK FOR REST

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    David Maddison

    India only wanted tested vaccines with full manufacturer liability, unlike WEF controlled Western countries.

    https://thedailyguardian.com/why-india-did-not-allow-pfizers-covid-19-vaccine/

    Why India did not allow Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine

    OPINION

    January 23, 2023

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    When the world panicked and gave vaccine manufacturers a free run, India kept its head on its shoulders.

    Our regulators followed due processes in the negotiations. Pfizer refused local trials and insisted on legal immunity. India kept pushing back.

    Meanwhile, a huge PR propaganda started. The narrative was – Pfizer can save India; but the bureaucracy was dragging its feet, while people were dying. Influencers and thought leaders went full throttle, how badly India needed Pfizer vaccines, and the government was letting us down. The opposition accused the government of following protectionist policies by not allowing Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

    Despite such pressure, India did not succumb. Eventually, Pfizer withdrew its application in 2021 We continued our vaccine programme with drugs that complied with our legal requirements.

    [..]

    But in this case, India is the only large market in the world, that doesn’t protect vaccine manufacturers, against citizens, which is a good thing. We did not create laws to benefit anyone yet remained open to every possibility. In our simple way, with limited resources, we went about doing things, with humility and common sense, not giving in to panic.

    [..]

    SEE LINK FOR REST

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    David Maddison

    https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/01/the-depopulation-bomb/

    The Depopulation Bomb

    Who will save us from the Good Club?

    Rebecca Weisser

    ‘Smaller, older, sicker’ read the headline in last week’s Guardian responding to the Australian government’s 2022 Population statement. It shows an increase in mortality since the roll-out of the Covid vaccines in 2021 has lifted death rates to historic highs and caused a fall in life expectancy.

    The impact hasn’t been as ‘large’ as in many developed countries, the authors claim. The normally phlegmatic BBC sums up the situation with the alarming headline, ‘Excess deaths in 2022 among worst in 50 years’, nine per cent higher than in 2019. Yet the most recent data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics puts excess deaths to the end of September 2022 at 16 per cent more than the historical average. And the situation is getting worse. Covid hospitalisations and deaths in NSW tripled in December compared with November.

    In fact, excess mortality is shockingly high in a range of highly vaccinated countries including the US, Canada, New Zealand and Europe. Germany had excess mortality of 37 per cent in the penultimate week of 2022. Excess mortality in Chile and Finland reached 17 per cent this year.

    The pandemic also reduced fertility rates in Australia which fell to 1.59 babies per woman in 2020. They recovered to 1.7 in 2021, although rates are projected to fall to 1.66 in 2021-22 and to 1.62 by 2030-31.

    The situation appears to be worse in other highly vaccinated countries. In the UK, the most recent data from June 2022 showed a 15 per cent decline in live births compared with a year earlier. California’s live births dropped 5 per cent in November compared with the previous year, Germany had a 9.5 per cent decline in births in September compared with a year earlier, while Sweden’s birthrate was down 13 per cent in October compared with 12 months earlier.

    Yet the response to rising death rates and falling birth rates has been muted to say the least, when it has been noted at all.

    [..]

    SEE LINK FOR REST

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      Graeme No.3

      Curious:
      Who would want to cause more deaths in young people and reduce the birth rate? Apart from David Attenborough, Bill Gates and associated eugenics believers?

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    Ken

    An electric vehicle owner from rural Alaska found out that owning an EV is less than ideal when she was told it would take four years for her to get a replacement battery pack for her Chevy Bolt.
    Patricia Atkinson, who lives in Sitka, in Southeast Alaska, a town so small and isolated it has no public charging stations, bought her electric car from a dealer in Seattle, Washington. She had to travel to Washington to buy the car because there are no car dealers in her small town. But recently she was told that her EV is the subject of a fire hazard recall that has affected around 140,000 Bolts. She was advised that it would take 4 years to get her a new battery!

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      David Maddison

      Sunshine Might Be Free

      Socialists have been saying the same thing about wind ever since the National Socialists.

      http://en.friends-against-wind.org/realities/how-renewables-and-the-global-warming-industry-are-literally-hitler

      Wind power, using the cost-free wind, can be built on a large scale. Improved technology will in the future make it no more expensive than thermal power. This is technically and economically possible and opens up a quite new life-important type of power generation. The future of wind is no longer small windmills, but very large real power plants. The wind towers must be at least 100 m [330 ft] high, the higher the better, ideally with rotors 100 m [330 ft] in diameter. This kind of high cage mast is already built in the shape of high radio masts.

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    TdeF

    Many years ago I read of the terrible and unnecessary deaths of large number of new University students in Japan with initiation rites, typically drinking a lot of whiskey as they did in America. Every year scores died. The ultimate reason was that 20% of Japanese lack the enzyme to metabolize alcohol and what would have been a hard night killed first year students.

    Later it occurred to me that while in law all men are created equal, medically we are all different. And the aboriginals could likely lack this enzyme entirely. After all there was no casual alcohol in their society.

    In Asia, a symbiosis between monkeys and fruit trees meant most trees bore edible sweet fruit.In Africa you can see giraffes and elephants drunk on rotted fruit. In the Pacific, the islanders have their kava. But in Australia there were almost no monkeys, no fruit trees, no sugar and without agriculture, no heaps of seeds to rot and ferment. So no alcohol. And without the enzyme, simple alcohol is a poison.

    So it is likely that Mr Darwin had no chance to select the gene for the enzyme and if a modern society like Japan can lack the enzyme, it is likely aborigines do not have it.

    What that means is that alcohol is not a right for aborigines but deadly. What for Europeans is a night drinking, for them is alcohol levels which are near lethal. Opening a bar next to a community is like putting Darrell Lea in a town of diabetics.

    I would love to see someone prove this. It would be easy enough. The police could check alcohol levels with their breathalizers and match to the consumption. A simple test would show it. I warrant what would be a negligible few glasses of beer for a European would could be a far higher level in the bloodstream of an aboriginal.

    This needs investigation, not legislation. What I hate are Left Liberals who demand the right for aborigines to drink to death as a human right. Race based restrictions on alcohol could save many lives.

    However as an isolated community for over 50,000 years, even a generation later you might have the enzyme. For full blood aborigines in the desert, they need legal protection. And clearly the violence is far greater than any other community as the impact of the alcohol is far greater and then leads to short lifespans and all sorts of alcohol related damage.

    It is the unthinking extreme left of politics which demands ‘freedom’ when in fact it is deadly, likely a serious and common problem. Once recognized these communities could get the protection they need.

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      Memoryvault

      the aboriginals could likely lack this enzyme entirely

      Archie Kalekerinos, Chief Medical Officer in QLD 50 years ago, discovered that chronic alcoholism in Aboriginals was due to a lack of zinc in their diets. Once treated with zinc their need for booze went away.

      So you are probably on the right track, TdeF. Zinc was probably necessary in the production of the enzyme.

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        TdeF

        When I was a boy, no one had any ‘intolerances’ in diet. Now we can see the effects of celiac disease and the need for gluten free food. And diabetes and sugar. Lactose intolerance. Peanuts. The list is very long. I once had a manager who was half Choctaw Indian and she carried adrenalin in case someone was cooking onions and her throat would immediately close over. It’s all about inherited tolerances, European for American food and Americans for European food.

        And the case of aborigines is very special because there is almost no sugar in this country, unlike Asia and Africa. It possibly also explains why there were so few people because there was no natural food, unless you knew exactly where to look and what was poisonous and what was edible. And that’s not a lot unless you can digest cellulose. And the animals either moved very fast or the snakes were 9 of the ten deadliest, and that must be connected. You cannot afford your prey to hop away at 60km/hr.

        It’s not as if alcohol was not a curse for the Irish! But at least it took a great volume. For aborigines, I doubt it would take much but this obsessive ‘freedom’ is killing aborigines. It’s not freedom, it’s a death sentence for individuals and communities.

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            TdeF

            Typical ABC. Yes, the stories of animal husbandry, buildings, fences, weaving, textiles, factories, holding pens for stock, a fishing industry and even factories abound. I would love to read the user manuals. Frankly I did not think they even had underpants or metal. Now we are told Tasmanian aborigines were brewing and perhaps exporting fermented drinks to the mainland? Did they have containers? One of the miracles of archaeology is the dating of civilizations by pottery. What pottery? What metals? What plumbing? What cloth?

            The fact is that most humans were in the same position about 10,000 years ago, but the exponential growth in knowledge since then has been astounding, starting perhaps with the burnt stick and seed based agriculture in the fertile crescent ending the rule of the carnivore hunter gatherer. But we keep being told by the ABC that a small isolated community worked it all out independently? Including brewing X? (the precursor of XXXX) No.

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      el+gordo

      Over 47,000 years they discovered intoxicants and even made beer, but that is another story.

      ‘Harmful use of alcohol is a problem for the Australian community as a whole. It is estimated that in 2011, alcohol caused 5.1% of the total burden of disease in Australia.

      ‘The social cost of all drug use in Australia in 2004–05 was estimated at $55.2 billion ($79.9 billion in 2016 dollars), with alcohol alone contributing 27.3%, and alcohol combined with illicit drugs adding a further 1.9%.’ (Gray et al 2018)

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      Fran

      Most Orientals have a weak form of acetaldehyde dehydrogenase. Acetaldehyde is the first metabolite of ethanol, and a build up causes the commonly observed flushing response and nausea. Interestingly, having this genotype increases the risk of developing alcoholism, which has been interpreted as indicating this compound plays a role in the reinforcing/rewarding effects of alcohol.

      The problem with Japanese students dying is not related to this. It is straightforward alcohol poisoning – it is a sedative and respiratory depressant. Like other sedatives such as the barbiturates, it has stimulant effects at low doses. The danger with alcohol is that one can load up to a lethal dose quite easily and the 0-order kinetics mean that it is eliminated slowly. Kids getting into liquor supplies are also in danger of death.

      The other common cause of death from alcohol is aspiration of vomit, again due to a high dose sedating the person and rendering them physically unable to vomit safely.

      If the aborigines have the weaker ALDH, flushing should be obvious in the population.

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    I recently got a ‘gig’ on talkback radio, speaking about wind generation.

    I’ve never done anything like that before, (and as you listen to the audio, that is pretty much painfully obvious) so this was new for me.

    The radio station was Cairns 89.1FM, a community radio station in Cairns, so at the opposite end of the State.

    Alan Benn was the commentator and the talk was done over the phone and played over the weekend.

    The surprising part was that I thought it took around ten minutes, but it was actually eighteen and a half minutes.

    Thankfully, Alan sent me a copy of the audio, so I could make a Post about it, which I have done, and that link is as follows:

    TonyfromOz Talkback Radio Gig On Wind Generation

    Be nice to me, as this is pretty amateur hour stuff.

    And the audio ends with the very first Dylan song which Peter Paul and Mary covered, ‘Blowin In The Wind’, which sold a million copies in the first week, and started Bod Dylan’s career.

    Tony.

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      robert rosicka

      You don’t give yourself enough credit Tony that was an amazing interview and well done .

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      David Maddison

      Well done Tony.

      And you actually spoke to a journalist who had clue. How rare is that?

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      Honk R Smith

      Very cool.
      Fun to hear the voice behind the very informative posts.
      Although I have had some concerns about your taste in music. 🙂

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      b.nice

      Well done, TfOz 🙂

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      And what a Blot on the Landscape those ‘Windless Mills’ are. The Atherton Tablelands are so beautiful. What Guv’ment Agency allowed those towers to be built? Environmental (mental) Protection Agency? My Aunt Fanny……………….Who got the 10% Commission?

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      Hanrahan

      The equivalent radio station in Townsville is 4TTT and a long standing volunteer announcer and administrator is Simmo. Like us, ex RAAF queer trades and definitely right of centre. He would be interested in an interview I’m sure.

      Such an interview would not be out of character for the station.

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    John Connor II

    I spotted an albino dalmation today.
    It was the least I could do.

    (You have 10 seconds 😁)

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    TdeF

    And on another lefty ridiculous idea, Australia day 26th January as ‘invasion day’.

    Try some dates

    Captain Cook 28th April 1770.
    First Fleet 13 May 1787 in Botany Bay.
    But they moved eight months later to Port Jackson and hoisted the flag on 26th January 1778 at the formation of the Colony of New South Wales. Australia at that time, did not exist.

    And the French appeared. It was a near thing. And the French later plotted a real invasion of the British colony. There were still the Dutch, the Spanish and the Portuguese colonies long established to the North from Batavia to India to the Phillipines and Taiwan. Frankly, the aborigines were lucky. It was the British who outlawed slavery in 1833 and freed over 800,000 slaves. And lost 3,000 sailors just fighting the slave trade on the high seas. Ending slavery was a huge achievement for the Christian British and the first time in human history.

    Australis is Latin for Southern and this was only the start of the discovery of the whole of the continent and even the fact that it was a continent. No aborigine knew that or where they lived. There was no nation. And the search for a great inland sea started while the early settlers were in fear of the superpowers of the day like Spain. The border of WA was based on the dividing of the world between Spain and Portugal and from it the South Australia/NSW border. It was only later that Queensland moved the border to grab the mining areas. Australia was at risk of military invasion but that diminished with the defeat of Napoleon in 1815 at Waterloo.

    More significantly after WWII on 26th January 1949 the Nationality and Citizenship Act of 1948 was enacted and the people of Australia, aborigines included, stopped being British citizens and had their own country called Australia. And possibly the best place in the world to live and something to really celebrate along with the 40% of foreign born Adult Australians who chose this country because it is safe and democratic and fair. On this day we all celebrate our new country as the Americans celebrate Thanksgiving which is also under attack by who hate America and post modernists who try to divide people by race.

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      TdeF

      I was also appalled yesterday to read that the US Vice President speaking in support of abortion left out the word ‘life’ in the Constitutional claim “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” This is a statement known by heart by most Americans. Now the right to life is controlled by politicians including Kamala.

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      TdeF

      And on the National Australia Day “In 1988, January 26 became a national public holiday, and, in an effort to end the practice in some areas of celebrating the day on the closest Monday, agreement was reached in 1994 that the holiday would be observed on the actual date.

      So we are really celebrating Australia and I would like to think Australian aborigines have good reason to celebrate as well. In so many ways they were rescued from total poverty. And despite the Rousseaux fantasy of the ‘noble savage’, it turns out most were understandably not happy living a mere survival existence. I know when the British arrived in India, the average lifespan was only 24 years.

      Of course if the aboriginal community have a date from their own ancient calendar, that might work too.

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        Graeme No.3

        TdeF:
        But that was Bob Hawke Labor. Whom We aren’t allowed to disrespect (whatever that means)

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        Harves

        I think that calendar was buried within the vast library of lost city that was the centre of government and culture for the First Nations.

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        el+gordo

        ‘ … a mere survival existence.’

        Hunter gatherers didn’t know any different, so in their own way they lived out each day to the fullest and moved on when food became scarce.

        The optimum number for a family group would have been around 40 people, including the youngsters, and when they stumbled across a renewable resource it then became a permanent camp.

        The Last Glacial Maximum was a near death experience, this inhospitable continent had few places of refuge to survive.

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      Hey TdeF,
      You’ve fluffed that 1787 date, by half a world.
      That’s the date the fleet left Blighty, bound for Botany Bay, reaching there in January, 1788, moving on to Sysney Cove just a few days later. Proclamation Day was Jan 26, and think it was only the next day that female convicts were disembarked…

      I’d have to go back to Tench for the detailed timeline.

      Cheers
      Dave B

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    David Maddison

    If you’re the one with the problem, you don’t send the rest of the world to therapy.

    I saw this attributed to Wayne Dyer but can find no reference for it.

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    Harves

    Who’d have ever guessed even 10 years ago that governments would one day be spending taxes to discuss the way its citizens date?
    https://www.9news.com.au/videos/national/summit-held-to-improve-dating-app-safety/cldbbzygc000x0jqn4p2ldndw

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    CHRIS

    Welcome to the REAL world, Harves

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      el+gordo

      The new technologies require stricter control by the providers.

      ‘Burgin said dating apps need to be proactive to prevent abuse as they have a responsibility to keep users safe, and that the onus shouldn’t be on users.

      “We shouldn’t be waiting until there’s an absolute tragedy before we start reflecting on the way technology is used or can be used by perpetrators. We need to design for it.” (Guardian)

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    Lance

    Bill Gates concludes that mRNA shots aren’t actually useful, warns of ‘next pandemic’
    Microsoft founder admits Covid mRNA “vaccines” don’t serve any benefit to society.

    “We also need to fix the three problems of [mRNA] vaccines,” Gates started. “The current vaccines are not infection blocking. They’re not broad, so when new variants come up you lose protection, and they have very short duration, particularly in the people who matter, which are old people.”

    https://dossier.substack.com/p/bill-gates-concludes-that-mrna-shots

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      John Hultquist

      particularly in the people who matter, which are old people.” “which” ?

      Bill will be 68 in October; so talking about himself.

      I think he’s got it upside down. Us older folks take food and space away from potentially more productive people. If Bill didn’t have a ton of money, he wouldn’t matter.

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        farmerbraun

        But he’s also wrong in that many older people have benefited , healthwise , from a far superior diet and lifestyle. Not to mention education.
        Excessive consumption of sugar and other carbohydrates lies behind many health problems of the current age.

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      Honk R Smith

      Covid mRNA “vaccines” don’t serve any benefit to society.

      Do we get a refund?
      3 years of our lives reimbursed?
      Can I get a vaccine that sterilizes the voice and image of that annoying man from my brain?

      Do these people hear themselves talk?

      We meant well.
      Never mind.
      Look over there.
      I would never suggest spontaneous proletariat social gatherings with the deployment of pre-industrial night vision devices and renewable muscle powered pronged hay distribution implements.
      But I could understand how some might go there.

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        farmerbraun

        ” pre-industrial night vision devices and renewable muscle powered pronged hay distribution implements.”

        On the other hand , this technology has proven to be highly effective in the recent past, in temporarily removing the phenomenon known as “the political class”.

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    @GermanyDiplo
    ⁩ @KremlinRussia_E
    did the german foreign minister just declare war on Russia. She says they are at war with Russia. Russia who defeated the Nazis for the world and lost 27m ppl doing so. Russia isnt the aggressor! The west and nato are!

    https://twitter.com/envirolumiere/status/1618275510223798281

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    farmerbraun

    The fuse has been lit in Godzone ; how long will the MSM manage to ignore this?
    How long before they realise that the wind has changed , and swiftly change allegiance?
    Have a look at the best comments under this blog.

    https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/rodney-hide

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      MrGrimNasty

      Bad idea to vote on a single issue.
      We did – Brexit, and ignored all the stuff on climate change/net zero which negated any possible benefits of Brexit and worse. So now they say they have an overwhelming mandate for all the green ***”. Kipper in sutures.

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        farmerbraun

        It’s a valid point Grim, and you may have noticed I raised some counter argument.
        But the election is 9 months away (barring a snap election), and that’s a very long time in politics, even with the fuse burning slowly , as it seems to be right now.
        The destruction of democracy is a better single issue , given that this whole covid fraud , as well as AGW , were essentially about cancelling some freedoms.

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    Lance

    Ivermectin: The Truth

    “If you can shape the message, then you can shape the world.”

    13 min video. Well worth the time.

    https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1618038271954812928

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    another ian

    Meat alternative sales in USA

    “Retreat turns to rout: Sales have already dropped 24% compared to 2022. In the 2nd week of 2022 the decline was 29%”

    Graph at link in

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2023/01/25/war-on-meat-8/

    Powdered insects not separated out

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    another ian

    And still they come –

    “Massive spike in excess deaths sparks calls for an ‘urgent investigation’: NHS crisis is blamed for nearly 3,000 more Brits than usual dying each week”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11671587/Massive-spike-excess-deaths-sparks-calls-urgent-investigation.html

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    another ian

    “Researchers Propose Compulsory Climate Change Teaching in Core Law Curriculum”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/01/25/researchers-propose-compulsory-climate-change-teaching-in-core-law-curriculum/

    More “Bow2ens”?

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    el+gordo

    Antarctica is looking solid and won’t be adding to sea level rise.

    ‘The new model also expects more snowfall in Antarctica and the Antarctic ice mass is even expected to remain unchanged and stable overall this century. In this respect, Antarctica will probably make no contribution at all to global sea-level rise by 2100. This reduces the rise in sea level to be expected in this century by 25%.’ (wuwt)

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    another ian

    “Extraordinary Resignation by a Geology Professor: ‘I feel the profession…is no longer worthy of my efforts’ ”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/01/25/extraordinary-resignation-by-a-geology-professor-i-feel-the-profession-is-no-longer-worthy-of-my-efforts/

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    another ian

    “Oh, I’m some sort of conspiracy theorist and the Covid jabs are safe and effective eh?

    Ok, let’s ignore “effective” for the purpose of this article.

    How about “safe”?”

    “This is just through the end of 2021 as that was the end of the survey so it picks up nobody who died from this crap into 2022 and forward. It is thus nowhere near the full damage, which is still ongoing today and, in fact, this morning I was sent a message from someone who heard of a local teen athlete that had collapsed with a cardiac problem at a sporting event. They’re alive, for now, having been hit with an AED, CPR and ultimately a chopper ride.

    The CI is wide because of the listed potential confounders and possible biases which are disclosed and discussed in the study itself. That leads to a relatively-wide confidence interval but even at the lower boundary this is not only unacceptable it is damn-near proof of fraud because there is no possible way these shots could have gotten through the so-called “trials” without that level of damage being detected and in fact we now know it was detected because the original trials in the fall of 2020 had more deaths in the treatment than the placebo arm which were waved away as statistically meaningless.”

    More at

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=247962

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    Lance

    Yeah. And then there’s this:

    “One of the things we [Pfizer] are exploring is like, why don’t we just mutate it [COVID] ourselves so we could create — preemptively develop new vaccines, right? So, we have to do that. If we’re gonna do that though, there’s a risk of like, as you could imagine — no one wants to be having a pharma company mutating f**king viruses,” Walker said.

    https://www.projectveritas.com/news/pfizer-executive-mutate-covid-via-directed-evolution-for-company-to-continue/

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      Lance

      Key quote: Pfizer Executive: ‘Mutate’ COVID via ‘Directed Evolution’ for Company to Continue Profiting Off of Vaccines … ‘COVID is Going to be a Cash Cow for Us’ … ‘That is Not What We Say to the Public’ … ‘People Won’t Like That’ … ‘Don’t Tell Anyone’

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        Joe

        The profit motive and health – pick one.

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          Lance

          Who picks it? Pharma, Govt, or People?

          If the research is paid by taxes, then the Govt owns the results and the People own the benefit.

          If Pharma controls the Govt Approval Process for their own products, then isn’t that an illicit activity? It ought be.

          Past time to hold Pharma liable for their damages and failures as well as any in Govt who participate in fleecing the Public.

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            Joe

            Sorry, obviously I assumed you knew the vernacular.
            To re-phrase

            PROFIT or HEALTH – pick one or the other as they are mutually exclusive in practice as is shown by current events.
            It does not matter who the picker is for the pedantic.

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              I’ve been watching this one develop for several hours. It’s breaktaking if real, but almost too good to be true. The Daily Mail picked it up, but that page has gone now. The question is whether Project Veritas have the scoop of the century or whether there is some reverse scam going on.

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