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I posted this too late on Thursday for many to see so I’ll repost it here.
This is an excellent 1962 science fiction movie, “Creation of the Humanoids”, said to be Andy Warhol’s favourite movie. Most people have never heard of it. Very relevant to the rise of artificial intelligence and the future of human society. (Wikipedia dates the movie to 1960.)
https://youtu.be/Otcht1mbJ-I
I can sense elements of inspiration for many other movies in it such as Bicentennial Man, Blade Runner, Cylons from Battlestar Galactica, etc..
Very good comments in the comments section as well.
The robots are referred to by the derogatory term “clickers”.
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While we’re on entertainment, just out are:
The Grand Tour , Eurocrash
Star Trek, Strange New Worlds, season 2.
Silo, season 1 ep 8, 2 to go!
Black Mirror, season 6
..and The last of us, ep 9 which I’ll finally get around to, and the cliffhanger ending.
That lot, and more, for this weekend.
😁😁😁
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And for those interested in AI, Ex Machina, Automata and the series “Next” (not the Nicholas Cage film) are excellent.
Even uselesstube has some passable scifi like “Monsters of man” and “Coma”.
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UselessTube? I live on that thing. Having to rely on the tv and radio like yesteryear fills me with horror. I think YouTube is the best thing to come out of the internet.
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#meetoo, it’s very diverse. Seriously,there is heaps of interesting stuff there. 97pecent of me spends time there.
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I really like you-tube as well, watch it on my TV via a “special” app, no adds, no in video sponsor rubbish, actually makes watching it much more enjoyable. Occasionally I try watch you-tube on their actual app or web page and “oh my god”, how can any watch it like that?
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DM,
Meanwhile, for those of us who prefer reality entertainment, have a look at your home electricity bill. There are quarter-to-quarter increases on ours exceeding 20%.
I have never in my life (82 today) seen such vivid evidence of gross mismanagement of an essential service.
It makes the fictional Dr Strangelove movie feel like real life in progress. Geoff s
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Happy birthday Greg. May you ENJOY many more.
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And Happy Birthday to Geoff also…
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Oh dear! My mistake. 🙁
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Hey, EVERY day’s a birthday for me – I’ll take it, cheers!
And a happy one to you too, Geoff.
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I just got my quarterly winter power bill – $275.
Could be worse – California to scale power bills based on income (no doubt no benefit if one is poor) and Germans paying around $1000 a month!
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Obviously not a resident of victoria!
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In Victoria if you follow the progression of Comrade Premier Daniel Andrews bans in sequence on picking up sticks, timber harvesting, gas exploration, fracking, coal based power, coal exports, blowing up power stations, it is likely electricity is to be banned in Victoria. It’s just the last step.
But never fear. The wealthy and their privileged children at private schools are to be led to squirrel cages where they will have to work for their living generating power. All coal and gas and forests and fish and minerals generally are to be left for his Chinese masters.
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Very best wishes for many years to follow Geoff.
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Happy Birthday, Geoff.
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Happy birthday Geoff. I won’t mention more because I have just been reading on ABC news about “SIM porting”. I’ll go tomorrow to the bank and optimise my security.
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Here’s the link to that ABC story. I’d not heard of “SIM porting” before.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-16/sos-warning-first-sign-of-identity-theft-mobile-phone-porting/102316168
Cheers
Dave B
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You got off lightly Geoff..
Ours landed today..
Usage rate up from $0.30 c/kwh, to 40.6c/kwh…… +33%. !…..Flat rate with Alinta in NSW
Also daily charge increased from $1.38 to $1.76 .. ..+27% !
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Origin Energy have informed me by email of my ‘new’ energy prices;
Controlled load up to 23.265 c/kWhr (increase of 6.7 c/ kW)
and general usage up to 34.606 c/kHhr (increase of 7.8 c/kWh)
Overall my average usage of 19/20 kWhrs per day will cost me about 25% more per year.
Big increase. So where’s the money going? I think I know . .
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I am equally as astonished Geoff. How a country sitting on energy could have the most expensive electricity in the world is simply amazing. The only conclusion you can possibly draw with absolute certainty, is the people running the show are idiots, everything else is somewhat debatable. But that is certainty.
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It’s a little known feature of our language that anagrams can be flexible, for example “Bowen” can be “complete ‘expletive deleted’ idiot.”
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Now that’s a little harsh. Many idiots are quite nice and thoughtful people who care about others.
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Phil, you’re too generous. Calling these people idiots gives them a ‘get out’, which they don’t deserve.
The ‘fact’ is that the people making the stupid decisions are not impacted by their decisions. They have plenty of money and contacts to enable them to ride out all the problems their idiocy causes. Therefore, since it doesn’t impact them then it seems obvious, to me, that the reason they make these decisions is not stupidity but is in fact straightforward greed and ego. If there was direct repercussions on their personal fortunes and their reputations then they would be very wary of making stupid, damaging decisions.
There isn’t, so here we are !
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“Andy Warhol’s favourite movie.” I don’t know if that’s a good recommendation.
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Thats a very good film. Before I knew it I was 22 minutes in.
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For those interested Donald Trump Jr is coming to Australia along with Nigel Garage. Also Sen. Alex Antic will be there.
I’m glad the Australian Government didn’t ban him as they attempt to do with so many other freedom advocates or those with a point of view not in accord with the Official Narrative.
https://www.trumplive.com.au/
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Nigel Farage
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Oops. An unauthorised change by spelling checker…
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Park that one for later.
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Alas, not “Australia” just 3 eastern cities.
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But still half the population.
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Several US Agencies Hit In Global Cyberattack Alongside Universities, Hospitals
On Thursday the US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency announced that “several” US federal government agencies were hit in what’s being acknowledged as a global cyberattack.
The attack utilized a vulnerability in widely used software, with the agencies have “experienced intrusions affecting their MOVEit applications,” according to a US government statement. “We are working urgently to understand impacts and ensure timely remediation,” Eric Goldstein, a top US cybersecurity official, said.
Initial suspicion has fallen on a Russian-speaking ransomware group, known as CLOP, which has claimed responsibility for a similar ongoing hacking campaign which targeted entities ranging from BBC to British Airways to Shell oil, to schools and hospitals, as well as some US state governments in the Midwest.
CNN reviews of a recent and ongoing hacking campaign as follows:
But the news adds to a growing tally of victims of a sprawling hacking campaign that began two weeks ago and has hit major US universities and state governments. The hacking spree mounts pressure on federal officials who have pledged to put a dent in the scourge of ransomware attacks that have hobbled schools, hospitals and local governments across the US.
As part of this, the famous Johns Hopkins University and Health System has also been deeply impacted.
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/several-us-agencies-hit-global-cyberattack-alongside-universities-hospitals
Of course if the EU bank takedown happens it’ll also impact markedly on the USA and possibly other countries.
Also, it could be the “provocation” defunct NATO needs to invoke Article 5 and it all goes hot.
Meanwhile:
Australian banks announce cash withdrawal limits
From August 20th 2023 Westpac Bank Australia customers will be prohibited from withdrawing more than $1000 from their accounts per day. Other Banks will follow. Access to your own cash removed.
Still think it’s about a Virus?
I think it would be worth it to mention who the majority owners are of all banks in Australia.
Blackrock Vanguard SSGA and all their affiliate hedge funds.
Last warning: CASH ON HAND.😎
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My ING Direct bank account currently allows me to withdraw $2,500 per day. I will watch to see how this goes. Thanks for that.
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Fed up with St George closing branches, including my own, I began swapping all our banking to Suncorp, on the basis that they had a branch nearby and seem to be focusing more on maintaining human contact with their customers.
Six months later, we’re moving back to St G, at least for now. Suncorp are impossible to work with. The branch (perhaps unsurprisingly) is always full, with queues leading out of the door, and their online systems are a nightmare, so incredibly secure that even their legit customers can’t get past the guards. We decided that, if we’re finding it difficult at at 66yo, we won’t be able to handle it at all in another ten years.
When my brother and I cleared Mum’s place out after her death, we found small amounts of money stashed all over the place. I used to think oldies did that because they didn’t trust the tax man, but I get it now.
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When I searched Google Maps and found Cornubia it showed me 3 pictures of your car, T8.
It also showed a few nearby branches of Bendigo Bank who focus on maintaining human contact with their customers.
You could do worse.
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I left them when they threw their support behind the Mosque in Bendigo. The folk at the local branch asked me why, when I told them they were beyond appalled. Oh well.
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Parents Demand Answers As Sesame Street Begins Promoting ‘Gay Sex for Kids’
Parents are demanding answers after Sesame Street was caught promoting the sexualization of young children on Twitter.
The official Sesame Street Twitter account posted a LGBTQ+ flag earlier this week.
Users on the platform questioned why Sesame Street thought it necessary to promote the hypersexualized transgender narrative to children.
https://twitter.com/sesamestreet/status/1668256850712891392
Big bird is now a real threat! 😉
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I dont get it, what is the connection between the Left and peodophelia?
Only a few years ago Pedos were reviled by pretty much everyone, now Joe is draping their colors on the WH. I find it interesting that this new updated rainbow flag has appeared only recently, but no one wants to know what those colors really mean.
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The connection is, the Left want to destroy family, religion, etc because our love our duty and our loyalty must be to the State.
Check out the stated goals of communism and marxism & also check out history.
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Was never a Sesame Street kid (too busy riding bikes & skateboards on my own street) yet we all knew Bert and Ernie had a thing going on… Surely Animal (the wild crazy drummer) was one of us blokes – please tell me he hasn’t swapped teams 😲
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I was a fan of Captain Pugwash. Who could forget master Bates, seaman staynes and Roger the cabin boy! BBC fer ya.
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They want kids to avoid being bigots. So they teach them early not to be. So they teach them that fetishes and perversions are completely normal and should be accepted and celebrated. If they didn’t teach them that, they might turn out to be bigots.
Simple as that. To be a bigot is the worst thing in the world. All western governments and politicians are desperate not to be bigots. All modern decisions are based on this.
To let go of bigotry was a big mistake. Bigotry, for all its faults and deficits, was a very simple system, that most importantly, works, due to simplicity and robust design, and provided net gains. It keeps things in order in a very simple way that everyone understands and thus can not be corrupted. Otherwise things get a little complicated and messy, then very messy, and soon enough child educators are talking to children about adventurous adult fetishes.
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Corrupt Vaccine Firm BioNTech Hit With Multiple Compensation Lawsuits in Germany
The scandal of the Covid vaccine will go down in history as the great example of medical and pharmaceutical fraud and malice ever. Now Big Pharma cartel member and Pfizer partner, BioNTech, is being hit with the first of many legal actions which may ultimately break the firm.
It is believed that the firm lied and misled the public with bogus claims of its experimental injection being “safe and effective.”
As the data now clearly shows, it was neither safe, nor effective.
If this legal action is successful, it will open the flood gates for similar suits, not only against this company, but all of the others as well…
https://21stcenturywire.com/2023/06/15/corrupt-vaccine-firm-biontech-hit-with-multiple-compensation-lawsuits-in-germany/
GOOD!
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Drag the “Pollies” and so called “Health Experts” into this as well. They should be next.
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And the media who promoted it. They love to bring others to account.
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I didn’t get the full story, but believe I saw that Victorian ALP is looking for a new leader. Is Dan off to join ‘Cinda?
And it would be very haRd to not associate this with his recent trip to China. So what the heck is going on?
Brett Sutton last week. Dan this week. Who and where next?
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Thinking about it, Maurice Strong came to mind.
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The Edelman Trust Barometer, 2023 global report
Consider this shocking statistic: only two of every 10 people in the U.K. feel that the news media is “independent from undue political or Government influence most of the time”. This ranks us 16th among the 24 nations surveyed, on a par with Romania.
It appears that the BBC has not coped particularly well with this excess of news and the methods employed by the Reality Check team have not generated the desired outcome. According to data compiled by the Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism, the BBC has experienced a decline in public trust from 75% to just 55%, with other mainstream TV broadcasters and print news suffering a similar decline over the same period, from 2018-2022. Further to this, the most recent global annual report published by the Edelman Trust Barometer placed the U.K. in 26th position, ahead of only South Korea and Japan in terms of public faith in media. The survey clearly tells us that the U.K. remains one of the countries with the lowest faith in media
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/06/15/the-bbcs-war-on-disinformation-is-just-government-censorship-by-another-name/
https://www.edelman.com/sites/g/files/aatuss191/files/2023-03/2023%20Edelman%20Trust%20Barometer%20Global%20Report%20FINAL.pdf
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Dr John Campbell looks at the “mysterious” cardiac excess deaths in Australia.
https://youtu.be/FxIug6k1mso
Data are from Actuaries Institute. They say excess deaths are NOT vaccine related but they have no clue what is causing them …
https://www.actuaries.digital/2023/04/06/covid-19-mortality-working-group-confirmation-of-20000-excess-deaths-for-2022-in-australia/
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I’ve seen many clips of people who were clearly injured by the Covid vaccine but blamed the injury on the virus only. They actually encourage people to get the shot, to avoid covid injuries like theirs. Its absolutely bizarre.
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NOT related???
Who signed that?
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Article about global cooling from Newsweek, April 28th, 1975.
https://iseethics.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/the-cooling-world-newsweek-april-28-1975.pdf
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You can see the generational drop in IQ, in those days the NOAA scientists realised that to try and change the climate could only make it worse. These days they can’t see that …
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https://www.news.com.au/finance/money/budgeting/aussies-feeling-the-pinch-urged-not-to-use-heaters-as-cold-weather-sets-in/news-story/0130f836f34579f2388194563bee6c8c
Aussies urged to reduce use of heaters as cold weather sets in
Aussies facing high energy bills have been urged to reduce the use their heating this winter, with experts suggesting they could save hundreds each month.
Elena Couper
June 15, 2023 – 9:16AM
SEE LINK FOR REST
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“Aussies urged to reduce use of heaters”
Aussies urge government to fix the electricity supply system !!
A couple of new coal-fired power stations, soon, please.
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^This 100%!!
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SAVE $300/month???
What on Earth are these people doing?
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Moving in with grandma?
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A large two-storey home, with heated swimming pool and twin large air cons, can chew through 70 kWh a day in summer.
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It doesnt need “experts” to tell you that not using electricity will save you money !
…But i guess these are the same experts who are advising how to convert to an RE based grid !
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It is just madness.
And another point to consider for all.
High electricity prices may result in people thinking outside the box and trying to bypass the meter.
Watch for the “dodgy bypass of the switchboard/meter trick” increasing.
Over the last 12 months, to date, Fire Rescue NSW have responded to a slight increase in fires caused by this practice.
So that may or may not, indicate an increase in trend. It is still too early to tell. We will see.
Yet imho,
If electricity prices continue to rise at the current rate.
People will become further motivated and more creative in the solutions they employ to avoid the impost.
Understand, that there are many citizen “DIY scientists and engineers” present in our community.
And.. in my experience they will push the boundaries of what is possible. Whether legal, safe or not.
and who would blame them?…. If their governments have failed them.
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I remember back in the day, when Australia had a properly managed electricity grid, we had some of the cheapest electricity in the world.
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Convective storm Biparjoy has done its job in the Arabian Sea. Surface temperature down by 2.5C to 29.1C in just a week.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#2023/06/14/1200Z/ocean/primary/waves/overlay=sea_surface_temp/orthographic=-297.95,6.13,342/loc=64.294,14.608
The storm is now a rain depression heading for Pakistan.
Atmospheric moisture over most of India still too low to support convective instability and associated monsoon:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#2023/06/14/1200Z/ocean/primary/waves/overlay=sea_surface_temp/orthographic=-297.95,6.13,342/loc=64.294,14.608
Convective potential building in Gulf of Mexico:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#2023/06/14/1200Z/wind/surface/level/overlay=cape/orthographic=-79.40,4.35,688/loc=-90.963,24.988
But warmest water is in the Pacific:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#2023/06/14/1200Z/ocean/primary/waves/overlay=sea_surface_temp/orthographic=-79.40,4.35,688/loc=-97.940,13.199
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For some reason I can’t load nullschool anymore, yet windy works fine (and their BoM). With winter solstice next week, 3am Thursday 22 June NZ-time, we’ve got our stationary ‘blocking’ high back in place just to the east of us, funnelling northeast breezes all the way from Tahiti… bonjour! Break-out the ukulele and lavalava and whisky on ice – perfect for my annual mid-winter swim, brrrrr…
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Filling my car today I saw a couple swimming in the caravan park pool, and they weren’t icebergs. Just southerners I guess who think 28 deg is hot.
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Could’ve been my niece and her hubby who’ve escaped Melbournistan for a little ‘light relief’ – odd thing is, they totally believe man has cooked the planet and we all need to ‘take action’. So they flew to Brisbane and rented a campervan…
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Southern Australia feels Antarctic breeze, which should reach NZ next week.
http://www.bom.gov.au/fwo/IDY65100.pdf
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Morgellons is an imaginary disease, a delusional parasitosis, from quite a long time ago, around 2002, but apparently still going strong with lots of self-diagnoses and online support groups.
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‘Morgellons disease (MD) is a dermopathy characterized by multicolored filaments that lie under, are embedded in, or project from skin. Although MD was initially considered to be a delusional disorder, recent studies have demonstrated that the dermopathy is associated with tickborne infection, that the filaments are composed of keratin and collagen, and that they result from proliferation of keratinocytes and fibroblasts in epithelial tissue.’
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.2147/IJGM.S116608
There have been a bunch of illnesses that many have claimed are psychosomatic but have later been proven to be biological in cause.
‘A new blog series on the dark history of psychosomatic medicine’
https://mecfsskeptic.com/history-of-psychosomatic-medicine/
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Morgellons AGAIN. 🙄
Peculiar if nothing else.
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Goolag/YouTube, have done a real job on Tony Heller, rendering him almost invisible and with tiny amounts of views.
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Yeah, he’s struggling to cut through. He is on Rumble as well.
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Aunty in a state of global warming anxiety.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-16/global-climate-records-breaking-rapid-rate/102484434
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That’s the same article they haul out of hibernation every year: could, possibly, might, maybe warmest EVAAAH!
Yet the snow (and freezing temps) keeps falling across Alaska, BC & Alberta, Colorado, Greenland (1 metre this week alone), Scandinavia, Russia, China, and Tibet [via snow-forecast.com observations]: ‘record summer heat‘ methinks not.
Plus in the wintry Southern Hemisphere: South Africa & Lesotho, Australia (even WA’s Bluff Knoll today), all the Andean countries of South America, and Antarctica. The only place NOT getting snow is lil ol’ NZ – it’s still freaking cold, -9C in Omarama, S.I., and -7C in Taupo, N.I..
Is the ABC actually on this Earth or in some parallel universe? I’d ask for a refund.
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The Biden Maladministration broke all US flag flying protocols by flying the rainbow flag central and at equal height to the US flag at the White House. The US flag should have been higher and central, even assuming it was necessary to fly the rainbow flag at the White House, which of course it wasn’t. Such disrespect for the US by Biden!
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David,
Official Australian protocol is for the national flag to be on the left if there is more than 1 flag.
Works well until you look from the back.
That is, if back and front are defined, as they seldom are.
A better system would have the Aussie flag flown at least 1 flag height above all others.
Also, it seems wrong to give standing to minority flags like abs and islanders, who never had flags until recently.
Geoff S
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Its been cold on the Tablelands.
‘Parts of eastern Australia just shivered through their coldest June morning in years as sub-freezing temperatures caused widespread frost across NSW and Qld.
‘A wintry combination of clear skies, light winds and a lingering cold air mass caused temperatures to plummet across eastern Australia on Thursday night into Friday morning.’ (weatherzone)
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Renewable timber firewood keeps my cottage cosy.
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The price of wood has increased with inflation, so its electricity for me this winter. Doing my bit to bring the curtain down.
I have it on good authority (retired engineer who helped build Mt Piper) that this renewable nonsense can’t carry base load and it’ll be a disaster.
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Over 40 Australian Government Agencies Feared to Be Victims of Russian Cyber Attack
At least 40 Australian government agencies that hold sensitive information are feared to have become victims of the Russian cybercriminal group AlphV.
Departments such as Home Affairs, the Australian Taxation Office, Office of the Australian Information Commissioner (OAIC), the Defence Department, and the Australian Federal Police have been impacted by the database hacking of HWL Ebsworth—an Australian commercial law firm that has tens of millions of dollars worth of government contracts, reported The Australian.
This comes after data from the Office of the Australian Information Commissioner (OAIC) was reportedly stolen by AlphV, which hacked into HWL Ebsworth’s database and stole four terabytes worth of company data in April.
Approximately 1.45 terabytes of sensitive information were allegedly published by the hacking grouping on the dark web on June 8.
Meanwhile, the Attorney-General’s Department has established a working group to analyse the extent of the data leaks, reported The Australian.
The Epoch Times has contacted the Attorney-General’s Department to seek clarification on the operations of the working group but was referred to the Department of Home Affairs.
The Department of Home Affairs has been contacted for comment.
While the hacking incident has only impacted HWL Ebsworth’s database rather than the government agencies themselves, there are concerns that sensitive data will be compromised. Such data includes company credentials, client documents, and legal advice provided to the agencies.
Other agencies and departments that are clients of HWL Ebsworth include the Prime Minister and Cabinet, Treasury, Education, Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry, Industry, Science, and Resources, and the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFAT).
Additional agencies include ASIC, the Parliamentary Budget Office, the Fair Work Ombudsman, and the Aged Care Quality and Safety Commission.
The ATO told The Epoch Times in a statement that while it could not publicly comment on its “cyber security posture,” it was aware of the cyberattack at HWL Ebsworth. The ATO has also urged taxpayers to be on alert and to contact the ATO if they have been notified, been a victim of a breach, or have found issues accessing online systems.
The office of Federal Cyber Security Minister Clare O’Neil said it was investigating the potential impact on government data, reported The Australian.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/over-40-australian-government-agencies-feared-to-be-victims-of-russian-cyber-attack_5337259.html
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The Australian Signals Directorate (ASD) has unveiled a new world-class cyber and foreign intelligence facility, as the agency prepares to mark 75 years defending Australia from global threats.
The new facility, located at Majura Park, Canberra, will further boost ASD’s capabilities as Australia’s leading agency for signals intelligence, cyber security and offensive cyber operations, as well as offering unique employment opportunities for the next generation of intelligence analysts, cyber operators, technology researchers, and corporate enablers.
Minister for Defence, The Hon Peter Dutton MP said ASD plays a critical role in defending all Australians, and protecting and strengthening Australia’s security, including the nation’s critical infrastructure.
“This state-of-the-art building reflects the Australian government’s determination to defend against and confront our adversaries in what is a rapidly deteriorating strategic environment,” Minister Dutton said.
“ASD is a world-class intelligence, offensive cyber and cyber security agency and this new facility will ensure its dedicated staff can continue to innovate and stay one step ahead of our most cunning adversaries.
Can’t wait for their comments. 😆
Maybe they’re off filming the next series of that massively pathetic “The Hunt”.😆😆
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This email came into my inbox today:
This is the bombshell Albo tried to hide.
But now it’s out and every Australian needs to hear it before voting on the divisive Voice.
You know how the PM keeps saying the Voice is a “modest change” to the Constitution?
Well, the real agenda behind his Voice referendum has finally been revealed.
Secret government documents the National Indigenous Australians Agency was forced to release under freedom of information laws say that “any Voice to Parliament should be designed so that it could support and promote a treaty-making process” 1
And what’s in the treaty?
According to these secret documents, it must include a “fixed percentage of Gross National Product. Rates/land tax/royalties”.
The documents explain:
…a Treaty could include a proper say in decision-making, the establishment of a truth commission, reparations, a financial settlement (such as seeking a percentage of GDP), the resolution of land, water and resources issues, recognition of authority and customary law…
This is a direct quote from the secret Voice documents:
“Australia got a whole country for nothing; they haven’t even begun to pay for it.”
Doesn’t that just tell you everything you need to know?
But it gets worse.
According to these documents, they want to abolish the Australian flag, because “the Australian flag symbolised the injustices of colonisation”.
This is why I get so angry when Albo says this is a modest proposal.
What’s modest about forcing you to change your flag or pay a percentage of the entire economy as reparations?
Sounds like a bloody BIG change to me!
Just to be super clear, this is how their plan works:
They enshrine the divisive Voice in the Constitution and it’s there forever.
The Voice forces Australians into a “treaty”.
The treaty means Australians pay a percentage of the GDP – that is, a percentage of the entire nation’s economy – to the Voice … every year.
On top of that, Australians are forced to pay “rates/land tax/royalties” to the Voice.
This is why Albo wants you to think you’re voting on a “modest” change.
Because when Australians find out the truth, there’s no way they’d support it, let alone enshrine it in their Constitution forever.
Yours in unity,
Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
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“According to these documents, they want to abolish the Australian flag, because “the Australian flag symbolised the injustices of colonisation”.
I would point out, it’s not just Australia, it’s nation states altogether.
And nation state identity.
Look at MAGA.
‘Make America Great Again’ under normal circumstances would be a benign campaign slogan.
Like “buy our shampoo and all the other girls will be jealous of your hair”.
However, an intense internationally and centrally controlled propaganda campaign has successfully painted this benign statement as “racist”.
An advertising slogan that JOEPOTUS has officially declared the singular greatest threat to “Our Democracy”.
It would literally be physically dangerous to wear the red hat in my city,
Were one to do so, and be attacked, one should expect for arrest for provocation.
I think Michael Mallick said, “they want you dead, but they will settle for your submission”.
I would disagree with such a hyperbolic statement.
It’s off by half.
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Meh- just look at NZ… Endless ‘final claims’, claims over everything in the country, including TV and radio frequencies, taking over the Govt so the maoris run the Health system, changing names of everywhere including that of the country, eventually they will succeed in making Maori compulsory in schools, two signs for every road one, in each language, and the maori flag flown above the flag of NZ every time.
I remember it all from South Africa in the 70s, English and Afrikaans then. I’d give Aussie one to two decades and it will be drowning the country, you won’t recognise the place.
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If the British had not arrived and for the sake of this discussion, none of the other European Colonial powers, would Oz and NZ still be basically stone age societies or would modern life have caught up with the indigenous peoples?
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G’day tonyb,
My view is that the answer is a definite yes, but when is less clear. My guess is some form of external settlement would have occurred during the 19th century.
Cheers
Dave B
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“would modern life have caught up ”
You do know that the Dutch were here over a hundred years before Cook, and the Chinese several hundred years before that?
And the French were hot on the trail as well.
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Applying the training the ALP delegates got from the Democrats in US on
“To see what is in the legislation you will have to pass the legislation”.
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The latest missive from Pauline Hansen, delivered to my Inbox today, poses an intriguing question. In it she says Labor has set aside $350M (!) to run the whole ‘Voice’ pantomime. That sounds like a lot of money, I know. That’s because it is, perhaps far, far more than is required.
So Pauline suggests a couple of reasons why the budget is so enormous, one being that Labor plan to use a lot of it to fulfill another of their objectives, which is to increase the number of MPs and senators. She believes they will do this by redrawing electoral boundaries and adding mostly/exclusively aboriginal members, which would of course swing our government machine even further to the left, locking Labor into pretty much permanent majority residency in parliament.
I could imagine Albasleazy doing this, but as is often the case with lefties, “The best laid schemes o’ mice an’ men gang aft agley.”
Stacking those seats with indigenous activists might not turn out the way he hopes. I reckon those MPs and Senators might, having been elected on a Labor ticket, soon abscond to a newly-formed aboriginal party. Such a party would still be leftist in many ways, but its financial demands would be painful for any party wanting its support. And kiss your land rights goodbye, white fella.
As the captain of the Titanic (probably) said, “We’re buggered!”
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Gosh Steve, I should have put that reply here… Look at Labour in NZ, they cuddled up to the Maori Party to get into power and ended up handing the reigns of power over to them. Now they want to get back into bed with the Greens to get away from the taint of the Maori Party’s actions.
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Friday fun: anti-plastics witness gets p0wned
https://youtu.be/5V5CHCc8dfY
😆😆😆
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The lady Donna made a very strong point that the impact on people needs to be considered first, and it’s poverty that causes the most issues.
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About THE WAR.
Always in war the first casualty is truth. But in this war youtube has been remarkably accurate with its reportage. The propaganda is a bit thick at the moment, but this is, after all, a war.
The manner in which the Russians withdrew last year told me that something was badly wrong at head office. Maybe as badly as elements of the Russian army were shooting at each other.
It seems this is indeed happening. And I would not be surprised if we find that the Ukrainians have just about done enough to cause the Russians to turn on each other.
Come the first of July, the fighting might be all in Russia. Which might increase the danger that somebody might throw a nuclear fire cracker party at irrational locations.
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Ritter and Macgregor have been calling the demise of Ukraine since the start, they are hopeless.
Once they are ignored the blogosphere is constant, Russia is doing badly. No biggie in the grand scheme of things but they lost another 4 Generals a couple of days ago.
I have no qualms in saying I want Russia humiliated on the battlefield but Ukraine may not have a lot of time before Tucker et al force a change of policy.
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“I have no qualms in saying I want Russia humiliated on the battlefield ”
No chance H, NATO has thrown in all their toys and the Russians have countered every one of them. The Russians still haven’t started fighting a war yet, its 140million people against 40million, the outcome was always obvious.
The West has run out of arms to send, so your first lesson is that they never had enough arms for a real war, just for beating up 3rd-world backwaters. Now they don’t want to send more as their replacement production is years away and the cost of the highly sophisticated systems is beyond them as they go woke.
You might see NATO win some battles, but humiliate the Russians, I don’t think so!
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Oh- perfect example in today’s SMH. The Govt don’t want people to watch their latest toys being blown up before they have had the chance to equip the Aussie Army with them.
“The Albanese government says it is unable to send Hawkei protected mobility vehicles to Ukraine in the near future despite increasingly desperate pleas from Kyiv, citing braking issues and a lack of spare parts.”
Maybe they should have had Toyota design them something without braking issues…
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/ukraine-s-plea-for-hawkei-vehicles-unsupportable-at-this-time-government-letter-says-20230616-p5dh1w.html
and if you want propaganda games, you just can’t beat Kiev-
“South African presidential spokesman Vincent Magwenya has accused Reuters of peddling lies, after the news agency claimed that a Russian missile strike sent his delegation running for a bunker in Kiev. It was not the first time Ukrainian authorities sounded air raid sirens when foreign leaders arrived in the city.
Magwenya arrived in Kiev on Friday with President Cyril Ramaphosa, who along with five other African leaders met with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky to promote a negotiated end to the conflict with Russia. According to Reuters, air raid sirens and explosions were heard in the city, and the group was whisked to a shelter underneath a hotel.
Ukrainian officials seized on the opportunity to accuse Russia of undermining the peace mission. “Russian missiles are a message to Africa: Russia wants more war, not peace,” Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba wrote on Twitter. “Whenever a high-ranking foreign delegation visits Ukraine, Russia greets it with a missile attack on our peaceful cities,” said Andrey Yermak, head of the Ukrainian presidential staff.
However, no sirens or explosions were actually heard, Magwenya said. “We didn’t hear any explosions,” he tweeted. “Instead, we saw people going on about their day leisurely. Everything seems normal from what we have experienced thus far. It’s very strange that we didn’t hear or see an explosion. There’s obviously some deliberate misinformation being spread here,””
https://www.rt.com/russia/578167-south-africa-siren-kiev/
The South African president had already been humiliated at the Yanks favourite lapdog Poland’s main airport. The presidential security delegation was held on the tarmac for 26hours while they argued over disarming the security guards. This would be punishment from the CIA for South Africa granting diplomatic immunity to Putin so he can attend the BRICS summit. Lets see Biden have his ‘men in black’ disarmed when they arrive in Aussie next!
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The brakes aren’t good at highway speeds and our army doesn’t like losing troops on the highway.
I reckon the Ukes could live with that.
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“We ordered the troops forward with orders to stop when they made contact with the enemy, but they were so brave they just kept on going … “
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Field of Dreams, EVs in China
has a short embedded advert you can skip over
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China is in deep do do. The yuan is not usurping the US$ any time soon.
Serpentza has also done a vid rubbishing China’s nuclear capability. Who knows.
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Remarkable preservation 3000 yo grave goods.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12202395/Rare-3-000-year-old-sword-discovered-Germany-preserved-SHINES-experts-say.html
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FWIW
Seymour Hersh
“PARTNERS IN DOOMSDAY
As Ukraine begins a counter-offensive and Biden’s hawks look on, new rhetoric out of Russia points to a revival of the nuclear threat”
https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/partners-in-doomsday?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
That Seymour Hersch is part limited access – the reference came from
https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/steam-friday-june-16-2023-c-and-c?r=1vxw0k&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
Other things there too
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Also FWIW
“Tucker Carlson: FOX News Fires Veteran Employee Who Posted “Wannabe Dictator” on Chyron Following Trump’s Arraignment – Had Him Clean Out His Desk and Clear the Building”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/tucker-carlson-fox-news-fires-veteran-employee-who/
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And
“Slaying the Censorship Leviathan”
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/slaying-censorship-leviathan
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“This photo is enough for me to vote ‘NO’ to changing The Constitution.”
https://michaelsmithnews.typepad.com/.a/6a0177444b0c2e970d02c1b256a08d200d-800wi
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/06/this-photo-is-enough-for-me-to-vote-no-to-changing-the-constitution.html
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Looks like the ghost of Terry Pratchett behind Elbow, no wonder its all funny make-believe…
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Dodson MP, father was “Snowy” Dodson, a white Australian from the UK.
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Minister Burney, father from Scotland.
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Scrolling down the front page of News today and found one story about the certainty of the hottest year ever! with a bright red patch in the centre of Australia, followed by a story about unusual cold in inland QLD with a bright blue patch in the centre of Australia.
Climate vs weather some might say, but they did cherry pick the hottest period for their headline pic.
The BOM have a hide making these pronouncements on one hand while admitting they need to fix their temperature measurement system on the other.
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