Thursday

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    Hanrahan

    Big win for the maroons last night. 😀

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    Bronson

    Hope every one enjoyed the welcome to country (not free) and free political broadcaste that was part of it at the state of origin last night.

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      Jay Jade

      As printed in The Australian in 2010:-
      Entertainer Ernie Dingo and prominent Perth Aboriginal performer and writer Richard Walley have emerged as the modern-day creators of the controversial “welcome to country” ceremony, after visiting troupes of Pacific dancers forced their hand during a visit to Western Australia in the mid-1970s.
      Hardly a tradition, sacred or otherwise, dating back thousands of years.

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    MichaelinBrisbane

    Pretty hard to tell what was going on last night if you’re a bit colour blind — the dark blue and maroon uniforms looked the same.

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    On the Football theme, what about Sevilla wining the Europa Cup again this morning our time in Hungary. They have now won all 7 Finals that they have played in in this Competition. Hats off to this Club. Maybe they should let them keep the Trophy and make a new one for next Season.

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    Geoff from Tanjil

    Being a rural Victorian, I never could excited about rugby, or, shock horror AFL. State of Origin? Maroons vs Blues. Didn’t even know it was on til this morning. So Qld won. I think they have two more games to play. I predict a contoversial ref call to steal the final game from one of them which half the spectators will be upset about …. Ho hum.

    Don’t take this post too seriously, I just like to stir up the avid fans who live and die by their favorite sport:)

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    John Connor II

    Australian garlic kills COVID-19, says Doherty Institute

    Scientists at Doherty have been researching garlic properties over the past 18 months and have discovered a certain Australian grown garlic variety demonstrates antiviral properties with up to 99.9 per cent efficacy against the viruses which cause COVID-19 and the common flu.

    The world-first research, commissioned by the Australian Garlic Producers organisation, involved in-vitro testing against the SARS-CoV-2 and Influenza type A viruses, using garlic ingredients extracted from exclusive Australian grown garlic varieties.

    The most efficacious garlic varieties and their extracted proprietary garlic ingredient are being commercialised. They will be able to be taken as a soft capsule supplement similar to vitamin C or fish oil and are subject to a recently lodged International Patent.

    Dr Julie McAuley, manager of the Doherty’s high containment facility COVID-19 research lab, said the results were striking.

    “We wanted to know if these strains had the possibility of killing COVID-19,” she told The Australian Financial Review. “I thought it might fail miserably. We blindly tested over 20 varieties. We found one of AGP’s products could reduce the infectious titre of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza by 3-log-fold (99.9 per cent). We barely detected any remaining virus genome, indicating nearly complete virucidal activity.”

    https://www.afr.com/life-and-luxury/health-and-wellness/doherty-finds-garlic-kills-covid-20230530-p5dcgn

    “Kills” Covid…

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      Glenn

      I’ll stick to Ivermectin as we now have plenty of evidence that it works. I like garlic, in moderation in food, and maybe it does work against Covid 19, but I’d want to see more proof of success using patients.

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      “garlic kills COVID-19”
      Useful to know. I killed it with Q…. and I …. but one has to be a bit careful with the I… It does tend to clean out a lot of other stuff. Enough garlic and you will obtain a good separation distance.

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        Andrew McRae

        Perhaps TV chefs can switch to measuring quantities of garlic by how many metres of separation the consumer will be given afterwards.

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      Steve of Cornubia

      I typically put six large cloves in a two or three serve stir-fry. Would that be considered a therapeutic dose? Happy to put more in there!

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        Adellad

        Perhaps therapeutic, but certainly anti-social

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        David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

        I thought I saw that it had to be taken raw.
        Enjoy.
        Cheers
        Dave B

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          Steve of Cornubia

          Bugger that. I do slice the cloves ten mins or so before using them though, which I read somewhere boosts the prebiotic levels, which is the main reason I use garlic regularly. It is also said to help lower cholesterol and fight fungal infections, which I suffer from in my sinuses. All in all, a miracle food!

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    John Connor II

    Ireland: Up to 65,000 dairy cows a year could be culled as the Government moves to bring the agriculture sector in line with climate targets

    Any plan to cull Ireland’s dairy herd must be voluntary, the Irish Creamery Milk Suppliers Association has warned.

    Pat McCormack told Newstalk Breakfast that “if there is to be a scheme, it needs to be a voluntary scheme. That’s absolutely critical because there’s no point in culling numbers from an individual who has borrowed on the back of a huge financial commitment on the back of achieving a certain target that’s taken from under him.

    Up to 65,000 dairy cows a year could be culled as the Government moves to bring the agriculture sector in line with climate targets, according to a report by the Irish Independent.

    An internal Department of Agriculture briefing paper sought to find ways to help the sector “close the gap” on emissions.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/farming-food/2023/05/30/cull-of-irelands-dairy-cattle-for-climate-targets-should-be-voluntary-farmers-say/

    Perhaps the cows could identify as or transition to worms and crickets.

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      Could this be a ploy by the nasties to close down dairying in Australia?

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2023-06-01/milk-processors-slash-price-offerings-dairy-farmers-lost-income/102419458

      Cheers
      Dave B

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        KP

        “Could this be a ploy by the nasties to close down dairying in Australia?”

        I’d say the farmers better talk to the Irish… There will be a lot of demand for dairy products in the countries shutting it down.

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      James Murphy

      Now it’s clear that those with the power, think that humans and animals are both something to be wiped out, along with any of those pesky forests and farms that hinder the building of shrines to the wind and solar gods.

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      PeterPetrum

      As an agricultural scientist (and a twenty year follower of this climate change farce) the current action agains the agricultural industry world wide makes me weep in frustration and deep sorrow. There is no doubt that, not climate change, but climate change policies, will send many nations of the world back into famine.

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        Ted1.

        Peter, don’t panic until you really have to. Just get ready to apply your talent. This issue has been around a while. It died a natural death the first time when research overtook the lie. On its second round Barnaby Joyce got it relegated to the too hard can. Now it’s back again, but it is still a very poorly researched issue. It should be possible to make this the vehicle that brings their whole AGW scam crashing down,

        I’ll save myself some work by copying a comment I got past the barriers at The Oz. But first I’ll address the other topic du jour. The Voice.

        Every Australian should ask him/herself these two questions:

        1. Where is my land that I live on,
        2 For how long will I be permitted to live here?

        Now for the cows.

        In December 1986 the Hawke government appointed a new board of management for the CSIRO, with Neville Wran as chairman. Wran was the first non scientist to hold that position.

        They put their own brand of “social scientists” in charge of the real scientists.

        There had been no problems with the CSIRO. In our industry, and, I am sure, in other sectors too, the CSIRO held the position of fairy godmother. Many were the scientific problems that the CSIRO sorted out for us.

        So the purpose of the change had to be that the Hawke government intended to bend our science to suit their politics. As a capitalist cattleman I expected to be targeted.

        Sure enough, bye and bye we saw a full front page tabloid headline: “Cows Australia’s Biggest Source Greenhouse Gases”. A CSIRO scientist working in Tasmania had discovered this.

        This was a monstrous lie, and I don’t believe any self respecting scientist ever said it. This was the CSIRO’s now Marxist publicity machine working to convince the wider electorate that farmers are villains in society, not to be trusted with the ownership of land.

        At the time so little research had been done that it was impossible to refute the lie. It stood and was taught in our schools and universities for years until somebody did some proper research, whereupon Agriculture, including Cows, was relegated down the list of “Emitters”.

        Though debunked, that lie is still in the records. Now the Gnomes of Oxbridge have regurgitated it for the original purpose of putting the capitalist farmers out of business. It is still a poorly researched issue, and it should not be hard to beat them. Just don’t depend on the National Farmers Federation to do it.

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          PeterPetrum

          Thanks Ted. However, for some years now I have been trying to get people, from politicians to TV personalities such as Peta Credlin, to understand that farm animals, and in particular ruminants, are purely part of the carbon cycle and do not add carbon, in any combination with oxygen or hydrogen, to the atmosphere. But to no avail.

          And you are correct – i do not think that the NFF actually are aware of this and, if they are, say nothing.

          Very worrying.

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            Ted1.

            That is the weak link in their campaign. They studiously dismiss the cycle. They intend to tax Ag’s recycled “emissions” on the same basis as fossil emissions.

            They have got away with it to date because too few people have any comprehension of sequestration. Only Ag and Forestry and maybe fishery sequester, and to date we have never got to the crunch. It looks like that is about to happen.

            When it does, don’t just politely explain that they made a mistake. CAll them out for the thieves and robbers that they are. And don’t demand they admit sequestration, demand that they reverse their whole GW scam.

            And the NFF are a bunch of dead beat elitists. They believe that farmers can make money out of carbon credits. They have no comprehension that this is in the long run a zero sum game. Fortunes will be made and lost, but in the end it’ll finish up where it started. The NFF have presided over a halving of the numbers of their constituency, and believe that they have done a good job.

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        Bushkid

        Peter, that’s a feature, not a bug.

        This is just the WEF/UN slow-motion version of the Holdomor, Mao’s revolution and Pol Pot’s Year Zero stuff.

        They mean it, but are just moving a little more slowly, and with the complicity of the mainstream media presenting it as “saving the planet” this time around.

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          Ted1.

          It surely is. But it also has the ability to suddenly speed up. Keep a watch out.

          Is the war in Sudan caused by high food prices, which in turn are caused by the disruption of wheat exports from Ukraine and Russia?

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    John Connor II

    New Documentary Film: Covidism: Contagious Deception

    “Covidism: Contagious Deception” is the most comprehensive documentary on COVID-19 as it thoroughly analyzes both the scientific and political aspects of this terrible crisis.

    The documentary was written and produced by Bonum Vincit (pseudonym), an independent Bulgarian film producer who prefers to remain anonymous.

    It took the author almost 3 years and thousands of hours of meticulous research to make the movie.

    https://healthimpactnews.com/2023/new-2023-documentary-premiere-covidism-contagious-deception/

    Parts 1 – 4 (I extracted the direct links):

    #1 https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/a/J/-/i/aJ-ij.gaa.mp4

    #2 https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/s/h/b/j/shbjj.caa.mp4

    #3 https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/4/X/f/j/4Xfjj.gaa.mp4

    #4 https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/E/j/i/j/Ejijj.gaa.mp4

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    another ian

    Have a look at

    https://www.couriermail.com.au/

    Seems the Origin score is behind the Murdoch wall – “Pay for play”?

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    Serge Wright

    Looks like Aunty is having a brief awakening – https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-01/electric-vehicle-battery-waste-projections-uts-research/102417114

    From the article
    – Australia will need to deal with an estimated 30,000 tonnes of old EV batteries by 2030
    – Experts warn the large volume of e-waste could pose health, environmental and fire threats
    – The national body set up to deal with battery waste says the industry needs to take urgent action

    At least environment caring conservative voters can rest easy knowing we didn’t cause the problem. But, maybe we should start slashing the tyres on those nasty EVs and paint slogans such as “environmental vandal” on the hood and doors to send a positive message 😉

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      James Murphy

      The only thing circular about an EV battery recycling economy is the path it follows before going down the drain with the rest of the country

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        Serge Wright

        Exactly !!!. At 10x the cost of producing the minerals direct from the mine and Chinese refinery, why would you recycle ?.

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    el+gordo

    Blocking high pressure cause marine heatwaves around the world, and we also have warm holes.

    https://climateimpactcompany.com/daily-feature-status-of-global-marine-heat-waves-and-warm-holes-2-2/

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      Peter C

      Marine heat waves (MHW’s) and oceanic warm holes are not new. However, their presence, intensity, and persistence has intensified during the past 10 years

      How do they know that?

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    StephenP

    Here in the UK a high pressure blocking system has resulted on low output from wind for the past month.
    http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk
    Even the occasional windy period has been shortlived so there would have been no chance to recharge any batteries.
    A similar scenario in winter with minimal solar power generation would be disastrous.
    The way things are going, don’t fear for future generations from climate change, fear for the lack of energy.
    Politicians need to wake up, but I fear that they have too much invested in Net Zero for their pride to allow them to change their minds.

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      tonyb

      Here in the Southwest it has been very breezy ever since the high pressure. It has resulted in wall to wall sunshine, quite modest day temperatures-around 19C-and chilly nights . As the breeze is from the North East it is quite cool. Presumably most of the wind turbines are in the East or inland with less breeze. Combine no wind and no sun in a winter night scenario and we are in trouble.

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      MrGrimNasty

      Not brilliant, but doesn’t look that low. It’s been persistently windy in the E and SE where a lot of offshore windmills are. In the SE where I am the wind has been quite cool and damaging at times down to the strength and unusual direction for the time of year.

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        tonyb

        Our seas in this part of the South West are directly impacted by Easterlies which are fairly unusual at any time of the year but as you say even more unusual at this time of the year. The rough seas appear to have contributed last week to two drownings near us of people that didn’t appear to respect the waves and tides. Looks like another incident at Bournemouth last night where the strong waves and swell and tides may have had contributed to more drownings.

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    John Connor II

    Australia: Kids on drugs for mental disorders doubles in decade, ‘concerning’ study finds

    The number of Australian children on antidepressants, sedatives and other drugs to manage mental disorders has skyrocketed in the last decade, according to a new study which also questions if doctors should be prescribing those pharmaceuticals at such elevated rates.
    Monash University researchers found the prevalence of dispensing psychotropics for children and adolescents aged 18 years and younger was twice as high in 2021 than in 2013, and girls aged 13-18 showed the most dramatic increase.
    Psychotropic pharmaceuticals are typically prescribed to kids with disorders like schizophrenia, ADHD, autism, depression and anxiety.
    Associate professor Luke Grzeskowiak said “one of the key” trends the study exposed was the number of children being prescribed psychotropics for the first time, and the length of time kids were staying on those drugs after beginning treatment.

    https://www.9news.com.au/health/dispensing-psychotropic-medications-to-australian-children-and-adolescents-doubles-in-less-than-a-decade/93895a54-7aef-4853-a4fa-2106147d1521

    So…transing them is not a solution then? 🙄🙄

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      KP

      “So…transing them is not a solution then? ”

      It is for the drug companies! Maybe its a reflection of the adults in the 1970s, everyone seemed to have a shrink and took anti-depressants. It was just a phase people were going through.

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      KP

      Wait, what? They’re not sick or disabled, they are ‘neurodiverse’.. A typical ABC article about a mother who should home-school her child if she is worried about the education system and her badly-behaved little brat!

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-01/concerns-some-schools-are-contravening-disability-legislation/102422564

      “Sydney mother Jana Hunt is worried she won’t be able to find the right school for her four-year-old son Harrison to start at next year. She said it had been challenging because he had been diagnosed with autism and oppositional defiant disorder, and he was also highly intelligent.”

      Luckily my boss didn’t get treatment, medicines, special schools or newspaper articles, although he has the same as that kid. He dived out of school at 15, became a roustabout on a station in Far North Qld, then did a stint in the mines and learned how to drive heavy machinery. 15years later, last month he won the most recent NSW rally and a car we prepare won the latest Australian Rally Championship round.

      You don’t need a big book education to succeed. I think the problems are the woman’s, not the child’s.

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      KP

      …and here’s how sick we are-

      “The prevalence of chronic illness has surged over the past decade, creating a twofold health care and economic crisis affecting nearly half of Americans. By 2030, the number of U.S. residents struggling with at least one chronic illness is expected to surpass 170 million.

      That’s more than half of the entire country, for perspective. The expanding elderly population and adults aren’t the only age groups seeing an uptick. More than 40 percent of children and adolescents currently have at least one chronic illness, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).”

      https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/nearly-half-all-americans-now-have-chronic-disease

      Doesn’t look like much of a future at all!

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      b.nice

      “Kids on drugs for mental disorders doubles”

      Do they all grow up to be MSM presenters, climate cultists, or leftist politicians ?

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      I wonder if anyone has thought to check their serum vitamin D levels?

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    John Connor II

    Massive Financial Gain Discovered Behind Just Stop Oil Protests

    The millionaire backer of Just Stop Oil has denied any wrongdoing after it has emerged that he is the founder and CEO of renewable power company Ecotricity and stands to make billions if the government do ‘just stop oil’.

    Dale Vince, already a millionaire, hopes to force the government into banning fossil fuels by repeatedly bringing London to a standstill. Cheap fossil fuels are seen by Vince as an obstacle to his company’s growth and is reportedly attempting to influence the Government by funding what some describe as ‘cynical guerrilla marketing’.

    Ecotricity is a British energy company based in Stroud, Gloucestershire, England, specialising in renewable energy primarily generated from wind turbines. Currently the company’s market share is tiny with less than 0.1% of the total. Bankrolling Just Stop Oil, who have repeatedly brought London to a halt, is a way of applying pressure on the Government to ban Vince’s competition. Though not strictly illegal, it could be seen as unduly influencing the market for financial gain.

    https://www.visionnews.online/post/massive-financial-gain-discovered-behind-just-stop-oil-protests

    And still the gullible young climate loons don’t see…

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      yarpos

      They would probably see him in a Musk like light. Engaged in virtuous business and supporting their planet saving delusions.

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    John Connor II

    Why your morning coffee is facing extinction

    Fifty per cent of the world’s coffee-growing land could disappear by 2100 – these scientists and farmers are trying to save it.

    In Britain, we drink about 98 million cups per day, with an estimated two billion consumed worldwide. The coffee industry sustains 210,000 jobs here, and around 100 million farmers depend on it globally. From instant coffee at a greasy spoon to a fancy oat-milk latte, coffee is big business. Yet its future is at risk.

    A recent report by Christian Aid warned that climate change could reduce the land available for growing coffee by 54 per cent by 2100, even if global temperatures are kept to internationally agreed targets. On May 17, the World Meteorological Organisation said that temperatures could breach the 1.5C above pre-industrial levels by 2027. It’s not good news for coffee growers and lovers.

    According to Dr Aaron Davis, a global expert in coffee and climate change, and head of coffee research at the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew, coffee is one of the most researched plants when it comes to climate change, with almost 150 studies published, and the outlook seems dire. Even if commitments to reduce carbon emissions are met, a 2022 study in Nature suggests coffee production will still see a rapid decline in countries accounting for 75 per cent of the world’s arabica coffee supply.

    “It’s not something that’s going to happen in the future, it’s already happening,” says Dr Davis. “It’s very real.”

    The world’s largest producer, Brazil, and Vietnam, the second, have both experienced concerning weather patterns just this year: extreme heat and drought in Vietnam, heavy rains in Brazil. “Last year, coffee harvests were influenced by drought in many countries, and long-term climate change may cause those drought periods to become longer, more severe and more regular,” Dr Davis explains. In Uganda, exports fell by about 20 per cent in 2022.

    Coffee is a picky plant, requiring the right conditions to flourish. Global production focuses on just two of the 130 known species; a lack of genetic diversity makes it particularly susceptible to disease and pests. Arabica is a cool-tropical plant, comfortable in mean annual temperatures of about 19C. It is considered superior, in terms of flavour, and accounts for 56 per cent of coffee production. Robusta makes up 43 per cent, and can grow at lower elevations and higher annual mean temperatures, but is mostly reserved for instant coffee and blending.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/drinks/why-your-morning-coffee-is-facing-extinction/

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      another ian

      No mention of tea so there is a back stop

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        Hanrahan

        Dunno ’bout that:
        Nerada Tea to pause production at its plantation and factory on the Atherton Tablelands due to market uncertainty

        Seems coffee is ousting brewed tea.

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      KP

      pfft! I’d worry if bananas were in the same boat, they’ll all from only one plant and much more important than coffee!

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    James Murphy

    We’re all supposed to be underwater, or fried in a desert by 2100. Not much call for coffee then.

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    another ian

    Another 10%?

    “US weapon systems shipped to Ukraine end up in hands of Mexican crime cartel”

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/06/us-weapon-systems-shipped-to-ukraine-end-up-in-hands-of-mexican-crime-cartel.html

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    Variable wind power makes gas fired backup inefficient, greatly increasing its emissions and offsetting the supposed reductions.

    Offshore wind may not reduce CO2 emissions
    By David Wojick
    https://www.cfact.org/2023/05/31/offshore-wind-may-not-reduce-co2-emissions/

    The beginning: “There is a common assumption that offshore wind electricity generation greatly reduces CO2 emissions. In fact this is the primary justification for the horrendous cost and adverse impact of these offshore megaprojects.

    As with many green assumptions, this may well be false. First, given the way power generation actually works the reduction in fossil fuel emissions may not be all that great. In fact offshore wind could actually increase fossil fuel emissions. This is explained below.”

    Surprising engineering follows. Offshore wind is a pointless waste of huge amounts of ratepayer’s money.

    Please share this article. Spread the word.

    David

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      TdeF

      That’s a good point. This idea of doubling the power sources to reduce CO2 is only one folly.

      The other is the sheer economic inefficiency of this absurd idea, whether the backup is gas which winds up quickly or mainly coal which takes a long time.

      But In Australia as well the wind generators are paid twice, once for each Mwatt they actually produce and sell and again if they just produce it and it is not sold. The money comes from a hidden tax on whatever does the job, coal or gas using a system of fake government controlled certificates. And what that means is that windmills can charge a lot more and still be competitive, given the system is rigged. This also pushes up the cost.

      In that way Australia has the highest carbon tax and it is not a tax because the government forces the distributor to double pay the windmill companies. But you are punished by the government if you do not play along. This has been illegal since Magna Carta, forcing people to pay friends of the King for nothing at all.

      In many cases it doubles the cost of electricity. Plus it drives coal and gas out of business.

      The smarter ones have pretended to shut down and get paid a lot more when they are forced out of retirement.

      Any way you look at it, we the public pay far too much for a mythical free system. Absolutely nothing is free, except perhaps coal and gas and wind. Plus we have to build endless distribution systems at public expense. Victoria just announced another $3.5Billion for another major system. Which by the way does not generate electricity and which we never needed before.

      But the idea that is all for nought given that the savings in CO2 emitted are also far less than expected makes it the greatest waste in Australia’s history. No dams. No power stations. No new water distribution. And now fake CO2 reductions. If Australia was the lucky country, we are not the smart country. Especially given that CO2 is completely outside human control anyway.

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        TdeF

        On the idea of controlling CO2, every scientist knows that the CO2 will go into the ocean. The balance is 98:2. So in time everyone knows 98% of fossil fuel CO2 will end up in the ocean, part of a far larger system.

        The only way the IPCC can talk their way out of this is to say, without any proof, that it’s a very slow system. In the 4th IPCC report they give CO2 as the standard for all Greenhouse gases with a half life of 80 years. Which is absolutely ridiculous. The beer, lemonade, champagne, soda, bread, cheese makers would go out of business. We also know it with every breath we take as 0.04% CO2 on the way in becomes 7-14% on the way out. What 80 years?

        And no one says anything. If the IPCC was right, a single breath would take decades to take CO2 from the salty water which is our blood. Our lungs have a surface area of 75m2. About half the size of a tennis court. And the oceans cover 72% of the planet. They, not the tiny Brazilian Rainforest, are the real lungs of the world absorbing all the CO2 and the floating phytoplankton generate half our oxygen. Increase CO2 and they like all other green plants bloom.

        Where are the scientists, the chemists, the physicists, the doctors, the physiotherapists, the swimming instructors, the safety people, the sports people. Everyone knows the time to exchange CO2 between air and water is nothing like 80 years. But that is the entire basis for the existence of the Inter Governmental Panel on Climate Change.

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          TdeF

          You don’t have to be a physical chemist or submariner to know how fast and how important exchanging CO2 is. The IPCC lie that the most soluble of gases, 30x more than oxygen or nitrogen, piles up in the atmosphere and refuses to go into the water is insane. Most of the world is water! Plus the IPCC pushed idea that the ocean is somehow ‘full’. That’s a concept which would have to be explained to Coca Cola.

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            TdeF

            I have been so frustrated at the wrong graphs of CO2 vs time. They remove the X axis

            So here is a picture I generated from Mauna Loa CO2 data using a hosting service.

            My eternal point is that it is almost a horizontal straight line, certainly over the time Chinese CO2 roared from nothing to over 30% of all CO2. And there is no sign of the world shut down of cars, planes, tourist ships, travel in 2020,2021. Where are the bushfires in Australia, California, Amazon, Greece, Spain? Not any sign at all of human activity. And the wiggles are just summer and winter.

            So why not? Because we humans have zero impact on CO2. So why we are told to shut down all our power plants, to cripple ourselves. For nothing. Meanwhile the graph of Chinese CO2 is a hockey stick.

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              TdeF

              And the half life of CO2 exchange is about 5 years. This is not the tiny amount we humans output but ALL of it.

              And you can see the rate of absorption from the bushfires as the clouds of CO2 head over the South Pacific. Or by storms. The fact is that gases are absorbed much faster with high velocity over the water. Which is why you start breathing so hard when you are exercising to get more oxygen. It may seem obvious but it is not just the additional volume but the speed of breathing itself which increases the rate of transfer over the thin wet skin between your blood and the racing air. Gas surface absorption increases with wind speed and turbulence forming eddies. There is also the increased surface area of vast numbers of water droplets so storms are very effective.

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                Simon Derricutt

                TdeF – see also https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2010/10/10/got-wood/ , where Chiefio worked out the total amount of vegetation (including wood) that would be produced from the entire CO2 in the atmosphere above an area. A surprisingly small amount. This in itself (without the solution in water) implies that the residence-time of a molecule of CO2 in the atmosphere is somewhat less than 5 years.

                However, it also stands to sense that extra CO2 in the air can lead to more bushfires, since the undergrowth will grow faster and will grow in more-arid areas. Unless we manage the land better, and remove the excess often enough, it will become a fire-hazard sooner after the last fire. Though, as you say, we can’t significantly affect the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, and the benefit is that farms grow more food, we will have some other effects to deal with if we want to reduce bushfires. Might just mean we set fires more often than used to be necessary, though, as well as doing more clearing around habitations.

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                TdeF

                Simon, as in the Chefio article “OK, so is CO2 the limiting nutrient? I’d assert that it often was. ”

                This is confirmed by the NASA observation that the world has greened with more CO2. Although the non biologists at NASA claim it is ‘fertilization’. No, its the CO2. Everything is built from CO2, all life.

                So I checked too. Total greenery up 14%. And in the same period 1988 to 2016, CO2 went up 14%. So it is confirmed, the world is short of CO2 and vegetation is at its limit.

                But the other conclusions are as dramatic

                1. CO2 goes up and more wood grows but the wood does not reduce the CO2. So growing more trees does not reduce CO2.

                2. The level of CO2 in the air is independent of the amount of vegetation. Rather the amount of vegetation is dependent on the amount of CO2. This busts Nett Zero, carbon farming, the whole idea of restrained CO2 output.

                3. if the level of CO2 is not determined by vegetation and the whole BERN diagram of sinks and sources, what determines it? The entire ocean of course, where 98% of all CO2 is dissolved.

                4. and what determines how much is in the air? The Vapour pressure of CO2 as dictated by Henry’s Law.

                5. and what determines that? Water surface temperature. So sun intensity and ocean currents which store 99.9% of all heat on the surface of the planet. As if we did not know that.

                and there’s this Canadian video on CO2 and trees.

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      Ted1.

      Hmnnn…

      The King of WA has just abdicated. The King of Victoria has not.

      Might that make a difference?

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    David Maddison

    https://10play.com.au/10-play-trending/articles/the-first-inventors-the-ground-breaking-documentary-series-that-will-rewrite-australian-history/tpa230524losur

    [..]

    The First Inventors is the story of how entire landscapes were transformed, how prehistoric events were recorded as far back as the last ice age, how people navigated over extraordinary distances, and how whole societies were organised.

    From ancient superhighways for trade, long distance communication systems using secret languages engraved into message sticks, and unique social systems built to maintain genetic diversity, The First Inventors not only explores the past, but questions whether this ancient knowledge might hold answers to humanity’s most pressing modern challenges.

    Host Rob Collins said: “The power of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander knowledge is awe-inspiring, its endurance speaks to the strength, resilience and ingenuity of Indigenous knowledge holders around this incredible country. Traditions and practices that have sustained my ancestors for countless generations, are now spurring incredible new discoveries in partnership with the best minds in science today. I can’t wait to share this amazing story of knowledge, resilience, and adventure!”

    [..]

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    Harves

    I see the fact checkers have stopped pretending that Anheuser Busch remains unaffected by the anti-Bud Light protest. $27,000,000,000 lost and counting.

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    KP

    The Russians are giving MSNBC a hard time after they reported on drones hitting buildings in Moscow while showing a video clip of a collapsed apartment building in Iowa.

    “The standard of journalism: the United States illustrated the attack of drones in the suburbs with frames of a collapsed house in the US state of Iowa.”

    https://twitter.com/Spriter99880/status/1664221714610372609?cxt=HHwWgoC-7Z-1wJguAAAA

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    mRNA ‘Vaccines’ Found To Be Contaminated With DNA

    https://www.technocracy.news/mrna-vaccines-found-to-be-contaminated-with-dna/

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      David Maddison

      Good article.

      I think there are a very few old-style Leftists remainimg that are relatively sane, somewhat rational and not totally objectionable but none in politics.

      A prominent American example would be Robert F. Kennedy Jr. But Deep State made sure to get rid of his father and uncle.

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        Hanrahan

        I used to have a Would you invite him/her to your BBQ measure of pollies. No democrat or labor would get an invite and overall there would be fewer today than there would have been a decade ago.

        Note: This was not a test of their politics, Hawke would have got a jersey.

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    David Maddison

    Good article about how companies are being blackmailed into ESG by Alabama Attorney General. (PAYWALLED)

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/esg-defenders-hide-behind-free-market-principles-un-climate-alliances-2aa2fd65

    ESG Defenders Pose as ‘Free Market’ Disciples

    Activists and bureaucrats seek to deny capital to companies and whole industries via blacklists.

    By Steve Marshall

    May 23, 2023 

    [..]

    America’s self-proclaimed ‘socially responsible’ financial institutions, which should be competing in the free market, are instead joining forces with one another and their global counterparts to decide which companies—and, in some cases, which industries—should be permitted to continue their market participation unimpeded… America’s self-proclaimed ‘socially responsible’ financial institutions, which should be competing in the free market, are instead joining forces with one another and their global counterparts to decide which companies—and, in some cases, which industries—should be permitted to continue their market participation unimpeded.

    [..]

    SEE LINK FOR REST

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    Saighdear

    Apparently today is / was, by now, ( still 1st June here in UK ) World Grower’s Day. Hmm that’s how much the UK media is concerned about our food security. China wants less Grain, Forecast yields are up so prices forecast to fall …. ? https://www.agrarwelt.com/markt/getreide-raps-und-duenger-preise-im-rueckwaertsgang.html

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “AIs Do NOT ‘Hallucinate’ ”

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=248935

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Prophetic words from VĂĄclav Havel

    Many readers will recall VĂĄclav Havel, a dissident anti-Communist leader who became President of the Czech Republic after the fall of the Soviet Union. He was widely respected. He was also a best-selling author, one of whose books was titled “The Power of the Powerless”. Published in 1985, it became a rallying cry for anti-Communist movements throughout the Warsaw Pact, and is regarded to this day as a seminal work of political philosophy.”

    More at

    https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2023/06/prophetic-words-from-vaclav-havel.html

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    el+gordo

    Wind farms may impact local climate.

    ‘Germany has so far installed over 30,000 wind turbines, which is about 1 every 11 sq. km. Plans are calling for doubling or even tripling the current wind power capacity. But this may be detrimental as new studies show that wind farms are altering local climates, and thus may be having an effect on global climate and contributing to regional droughts.’ (Notrickszone)

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      Gee Aye

      If prices are soaring then the money saved by any panel supply to the home goes up in value.

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        Hanrahan

        You do know about the duck curve don’t you?

        By definition, the more solar that is installed the deeper the duck’s back on the curve and the less useful any power you supply to the grid, which becomes more a problem than an asset to the provider.

        No way can solar be a good investment for a working couple who will be selling most of their generation back into the grid. It’s OK for me because we use most of our generation and I’m a couple of thousand miles north of Sydney. It’s 4 pm and I’m getting 0.52 kW from a 3.5 kW system that I don’t believe was properly installed.

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      ozfred

      Alas the installations should really be sized by the grid power replacement needs in winter. The other question about rate or return revolves on your expectation of the inflation of the grid power costs.
      Installation should never be dependent on the returns on exported power

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    el+gordo

    Once again the US fails to default.

    ‘Rich countries can borrow as much money as they wish and provide their citizens with perks and entitlement programs people in developing countries can only dream of.

    ‘Developing countries are forced to stabilize their currencies through the purchase of debt instruments denominated in rich economies’ currencies like the dollar or the euro. This facilitates the biggest transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich in history.’ (China Daily / Gal Luft)

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      Hanrahan

      The US is the world’s greatest importer of goods made in poorer countries. How do you think China pulled millions out of poverty? They did it because America allowed them and ignored IP theft.

      BTW How does the first world degrading their economies help the third?

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