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      DLK

      depends on the homogenization, probably.

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      el+gordo

      David Archibald got it wrong, too much emphasis on the solar theory.

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        Gee Aye

        Your prediction was a downturn by 2025 or you’d swap sides. I’m looking forward to that.

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          el+gordo

          I may have to concede and Mr Fitzroy will win his bet, however a lot could happen in two years.

          I won’t be joining the luke warmers if temps fail to fall.

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            DLK

            what is the margin of error on the bet?
            +/- 5 years?

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              Gee Aye

              The date was a hard cut off. IIRC it was about 2018 and the fall was meant to be evident by 2025. I think it was a fall determined by eyeballing, so a bit subjective and probably a flat line would lose the bet.

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            Gee Aye

            I actually would not expect you to do so, but I would absolutely expect you to reject the hypothesis you used to predict the fall.

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      DLK

      so what you are saying is that this is an unproven hypothesis,
      just like catastrophic global warming,
      except the latter you accept uncritically.

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      Gee Aye

      Do you believe this?

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        DLK

        ‘runaway global warming’ of 0.2 degrees since 2003.
        oh, wait.
        that’s just natural variation.

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        TedM

        Do you believe in greenhouse gasses.

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        el+gordo

        Its plausible, H2O in the stratosphere is a greenhouse gas.

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        el+gordo

        The time it takes to have an effect.

        The Mount Tambora eruption was in April 1815 and it impacted the NH summer of 1816, more than a year later.

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          Richard C (NZ)

          Geoff S cautions about rushing to explanations downthread. Agree but have to start somewhere so let the conjecture begin…

          Dr. Peter Kolb, PhD Forest Ecologist Adjunct Professor, links the effects of the Hunga eruption, “the highest in the atmosphere of any volcano in history,” to North America’s long cold winter just gone.

          “[The eruption] blew something like a trillion tons of water into the upper atmosphere … increasing the water vapor in the Stratosphere by 10%. We talk about greenhouse gases increasing by one or two one-hundredths of a percent causing global climate change, and here we had a volcano that increased the water content of the stratosphere by 10%.”

          There’s probably a greenhouse gas effect in play somehow – just not the one the CO2-is-evil crew would like but they claim it for their cause anyway. For example Zeke Hausfather:

          Are temperatures this summer hotter than scientists expected?
          Zeke Hausfather
          https://berkeleyearth.org/are-temperatures-this-summer-hotter-than-scientists-expected/

          The takeaway

          [Snip: obligatory “Climate change is real, caused by human activity” statement]

          The fact that climate models capture the extremes we are seeing this summer (for the most part) is, ultimately, a good thing. There is no evidence that we are passing particular tipping points that are contributing to significant additional warming today. A climate we understand and can model is one where we can more effectively design policies to reduce emissions and limit warming to well-below 2C.

          Looking at his graphs the models haven’t captured this (so far unexplained) spike in any meaningful way. Where they have got close is by accident – not design. And note that all of his graphs are anomalies – not absolute. #4.3.1.1 below shows why.

          No-one has a coherent understanding of the current development, let alone modeling it. Volcanism can only be introduced to models in retrospect; they cannot anticipate it. Even then it is transient and the system reverts to normal eventually so why bother?

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            Richard C (NZ)

            Kolb:

            “So when the Tonga volcano blew and through [Sic] all this water into the atmosphere, I go ‘Holy smokes, you know, all the literature everything I’ve read about atmospheric modeling and atmospheric gases. Why isn’t everybody jumping up and down going, oh my god, you know, this is huge’?” he asked. “There’s this massive vapor cloud, especially over the southern hemisphere that has reflected an enormous amount of solar energy right back out to space and it hasn’t come back to the earth.”

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            Richard C (NZ)

            Kolb again:

            “This extra water vapor could influence atmospheric chemistry, boosting certain chemical reactions that could temporarily worsen depletion of the ozone layer. It could also influence surface temperatures. Massive volcanic eruptions like Krakatoa and Mount Pinatubo typically cool Earth’s surface by ejecting gases, dust, and ash that reflect sunlight back into space. In contrast, the Tonga volcano didn’t inject large amounts of aerosols into the stratosphere, and the huge amounts of water vapor from the eruption may have a small, temporary warming effect, since water vapor traps heat. The effect would dissipate when the extra water vapor cycles out of the stratosphere.”

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            Richard C (NZ)

            >“And note that all of his [Zekes] graphs are anomalies – not absolute. #4.3.1.1 below shows why”

            Ed Hawkins and Rowan Sutton let the cat out of the bag, toothpaste out of tube, whatever. Neither is going back in.

            Their graph from their 2016 paper is devastating for IPCC climate modeling. That’s this:

            Fig. 1.
            (top) Global-mean 2-m air temperature [absolute] from CMIP5 historical simulations (gray, 1861–2005) and various reanalysis estimates (colors; from Saha et al. 2010; Dee et al. 2011; Rienecker et al. 2011; Kobayashi et al. 2015). (bottom) Comparing the same data as temperature anomalies, using two reference periods (1979–88 and 1996–2005).
            https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/97/6/full-bams-d-14-00154.1-f1.jpg

            In annual and absolute terms reanalysis products are confined to a few tenths of a degree from each other but climate models are spread over 3 degrees.

            Climate models cannot replicate annual cycles, all you get is an annual mean. But much off the action occurs WITHIN the annual cycle and in different latitudinal zones e.g. Antarctic driven “hottest day” spike. Climate models are oblivious to that action.

            Climate model groups cannot even replicate their own model runs so there’s no hope of them replicating other groups runs (and they can’).

            In other words, climate models that cannot replicate either observations, themselves, or other models are not carrying out replicable science i.e. CO2-forced climate models are NOT science.

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            Richard C (NZ)

            >”not the [GHG effect] the CO2-is-evil crew would like but they claim it for their cause anyway”

            How long before we are informed by WWA that a volcano-fueled aberration was “made worse” by human-induced climate change?

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      Philip

      The big anomaly was Australia. Strange, it’s actually been a very cold winter here mid-way up NSW coast. Always ask someone who has to cut wood to keep warm as to how cold it is. It’s only recently been warm days and it hasn’t been raining much, but earlier the nights were cold and the days had no warmth in them.

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    Geoff Sherrington

    Australia also shows the big rise, but the “pause” remains above 11 years.
    Do not rush the explanations. Data are still coming in.
    Geoff S
    https://www.geoffstuff.com/uahaug2023.jpg

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    Richard C (NZ)

    Just My opinion but I don’t think Anthony watts ans Ryan Maue covered themselves with glory in response to the “hottest day” claims. That’s this:

    No, the Earth Did Not have an ‘Unprecedented and Terrifying … All-Time High Temperature’ on July 4th
    https://climaterealism.com/2023/07/no-the-earth-did-not-have-an-unprecedented-and-terrifying-all-time-high-temperature-on-july-4th/

    Before launching into critique I have to say I’m not condoning the nonsense eminating from UN and WMO on this and the conflating of what is a wild aberration with “climate change”. UAH has just come out with a Global Temperature Update for July, 2023: +0.64 deg. C from their new 1991-2020 baseline. There is plenty of natural factors for this but ‘nuther story.
    Watts objections that interest me are:

    1) Data cited not “official data”

    2) Data was from “a private website”

    3) The claim was “a gross error”

    4) Data was “output of a climate model, not actually measured temperatures”

    5) Data was “compiled by the University of Maine’s Climate Reanalyzer, which uses satellite data and computer simulations”

    6) Cites NOAA statement that “reanalyzer uses model output data, which it called “not suitable” as substitutes for actual temperatures and climate records. The agency monitors global temperatures and records on a monthly and an annual basis, not daily”

    7) Objects to the (since exceeded) 17.18 degrees Celsius figure

    He then turns to Ryan Maue’s statements,

    8) Maue: “Note that this is NOT an official NOAA or NCEP temperature monitoring product”

    9) Maue: ” It is crude weather model output that is not suitable for climate analysis”

    10) Maue: “Be careful quoting this as “NCEP” as it’s actually from University of Maine — a product analysis based on a 2009 version of GFS model”

    11) Maue: “Use ERA5 from Copernicus ECMWF as most trusted source”

    That’s about it. I’ll address each in following comments.

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      Richard C (NZ)

      Anthony Watts objections 1 – 5

      1) Data cited not “official data”

      No-one was presenting it as such. But what is “official data”? And where is said data in absolute terms? Watts doesn’t present any: Maue points to ERA5; GISS doesn’t have it; the cows will come home before HadCRU has it; Berkeley Earth doesn’t have it; Zeke Hausfather cites ERA5 in his latest update – not BEST.

      2) Data was from “a private website”

      Presentation of the data was at a private website, the data was compiled in NCEP CFSV2/CFSR. The data was acquired via the Global Data Assimilation System (GDAS).

      3) The claim was “a gross error”

      In his opinion but still no alternative “correct” figure. The only other option is ERA5. What was the difference on Monday Jul 3 ?

      17.18 – NCEP CFSV2/CFSR
      17.08 – ECMWF ERA5

      4) Data was “output of a climate model, not actually measured temperatures”

      No not a “climate” model and yes actually measured temperatures. Watts hasn’t taken the time to become fully conversant with reanalysis which are basically the initialization data (observations) of weather models. Watts, an ex TV weather meteorologist has effectively trashed TV weather presentations the world over.

      5) Data was “compiled by the University of Maine’s Climate Reanalyzer, which uses satellite data and computer simulations”

      No the data was not compiled by the University of Maine. Climate Reanalyzer is a presentation tool. The data was compiled (and still is and has been for many years) by NCEP via the Global Data Assimilation System (GDAS).

      Yes reanalysis uses satellite data (and several other obs sources) but it is not a “simulation” in the same terms as a climate model is a simulation. Reanalysis simply interpolates between fixed observation points. This is the initialization phase of weather model data input (parameterization). It is this instantaneous snap-shot in time that sets the record and the provides the 2m-T time series when saved over time – not the forecasts.

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      Richard C (NZ)

      Anthony Watts objections 6 – 7

      6) Cites NOAA statement that “reanalyzer uses model output data, which it called “not suitable” as substitutes for actual temperatures and climate records. The agency monitors global temperatures and records on a monthly and an annual basis, not daily”

      “Not daily” is the issue here. Until the focus turned to reanalysis nobody was talking about daily absolute temperature. Now they are and there is no going back despite NOAA’s protestations – they liked the situation just as it was, this is an inconvenient development for them.

      Ryan Maue retweets Robert Rhode’s initial Tweet thread where he explains:

      Dr. Robert Rohde – “Some people have noted that NCEP CFS is an older product. That’s entirely true. The current version was made operational way back in 2011.

      [NCEP CFS] has the advantage of being available in real-time, and remains the highest spatial resolution reanalysis maintained by NOAA.”

      Dr. Robert Rohde – “Newer products, e.g. ERA5 from the Europeans, are better than NCEP CFS, but generally come with a delay (e.g. ~5 days for public archives of ERA5).

      I will be checking when possible, but historically ERA5 and CFS are quite similar about global average changes.”

      My stance is this: if $millions are spent on data acquisition by GDAS and daily data is available in absolute terms then let me it. I can work out for myself what degree of credibility to assign to it. If you object to that then provide your real-time alternative too.

      7) Objects to the (since exceeded) 17.18 degrees Celsius figure

      As for 3) and 7), the difference on Monday Jul 3 was:

      17.18 – NCEP CFSV2/CFSR
      17.08 – ECMWF ERA5

      And fine, object to those. But what is better, timely, and more reliable ?

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      Richard C (NZ)

      Ryan Maue’s objections 8 -11

      8) Maue: “Note that this is NOT an official NOAA or NCEP temperature monitoring product”

      See 1) previous. This is silly semantics.

      9) Maue: “It is crude weather model output that is not suitable for climate analysis”

      It’s not that crude. See 1), 2), 3), 4), 5), and 6) previous

      10) Maue: “Be careful quoting this as “NCEP” as it’s actually from University of Maine — a product analysis based on a 2009 version of GFS model”

      See 5) and 6) previous. Ryan’s a bit off-base here.

      11) Maue: “Use ERA5 from Copernicus ECMWF as most trusted source”

      So ERA5 is Ryan Maue’s “most trusted source” – fine. But most of 1) to 10) addresses the use of the alternative option, which is available daily (ERA5 isn’t) and is has negligible difference (0.1 C) over one day on a global scale – why quibble ?

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        Richard C (NZ)

        >”has negligible difference (0.1 C)”

        This is incorrect. I miss-read the ERA5 number.

        Copernicus ECMWF July 7 – “According to preliminary data from the #ERA5 dataset, the daily global average 2m #temperature reached 17.03°C on Tuesday, setting a new record.”

        Their preliminary figure was 16.88°C on July 6. Above seems to be a revision. So:

        17.18 – NCEP CFSV2/CFSR
        17.03 – ECMWF ERA5

        0.15 – Difference

        Still negligible.

        Also, this is scientific replication. Where else do you see this agreement in temperature time series ?

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          Richard C (NZ)

          >”this is scientific replication”

          Unlike climate models.

          Fig. 1.
          (top) Global-mean 2-m air temperature [absolute] from CMIP5 historical simulations (gray, 1861–2005) and various reanalysis estimates (colors; from Saha et al. 2010; Dee et al. 2011; Rienecker et al. 2011; Kobayashi et al. 2015). (bottom) Comparing the same data as temperature anomalies, using two reference periods (1979–88 and 1996–2005).
          https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/97/6/full-bams-d-14-00154.1-f1.jpg

          From:

          Connecting Climate Model Projections of Global Temperature Change with the Real World – Ed Hawkins and Rowan Sutton (2016)
          https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/97/6/bams-d-14-00154.1.xml

          Observation-constrained reanalysis products agree:
          ERA – Interim
          NASA MERRA
          NCEP CFSR (bit off – see limitations and advantages upthread)
          JRA-55

          But except for a very few, climate models are wildly astray in absolute.

          They look much better as anomalies. This is why climate models vs observations are NEVER promoted in absolute terms – ALWAYS anomalies.

          This is climate science’s dirty little secret.

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    Sacked Minister Tim Crakanthorp has defended not initially disclosing properties owned by his wife and in-laws, saying he at first thought he had complied with the rules.

    Tim silly but dim Crakenfart is a right plonker. MPs are extensively briefed as to what they need to disclose when getting into Parliament and even more so as a Minister. That is from Day ONE and NOT 4/5 months later.

    Throw the book at him and get every other MP and Minister on all sides to be grilled as to their assets, etc. Get the Audit Office to do it NOW and stop this malarkey once and for all.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1f8UOWF4RY

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    Kim

    The Voice – FOI – Ignore the NSFW dialog.

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      Gee Aye

      The NSFW is in relation to the fear porn.

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      David Maddison

      The Voice will turn Australia into an apartheid state.

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      Kim

      Protecting the Indigenous: in 1930s Germany in order to protect and advance the indigenous the newly created National Socialist government conducted a census to determine who was indigenous and who wasn’t. The rest is history.

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        Kim

        Albo is running the oldest scam in the book:
        Albo – Give me 10$ for what’s in the bag.
        What’s in the bag Albo?
        I’m not going to tell you just give me $10!
        or I’ll call you nasty names…

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        Skepticynic

        True! So good I borrowed it!

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        Strop

        Here’s the document behind the Uluru Statement From The Heart.

        The first 86 pages are inputs from various “Dialogues” and the Uluru Statement starts at page 87 consisting of 26 pages of background to the Statement. The Statement background includes “Invasion”, “Treaty”, the “Voice”, and other topics.
        .

        https://www.niaa.gov.au/sites/default/files/foi-log/foi-2223-016.pdf

        .

        The list you have shared might be a list of ideas raised by one or more of the “dialogues”. I haven’t compared each point in the list with suggestions made by the “dialogues” to verify.

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    David Maddison

    PAYWALLED story.

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/worksafe-figures-reveal-how-many-essential-services-workers-forced-to-have-covid-jabs-were-harmed/news-story/d43d3d6993a46ef55b3373c4da3081d3

    WorkSafe figures reveal how many essential services workers forced to have Covid jabs were harmed

    Dozens of Victorians remain off work after suffering Covid jab reactions — with some experiencing life-altering complications — resulting in $4.37m in WorkCover claims.

    Alex White

    July 31, 2023 – 6:00AM

    SEE LINK FOR REST BUT PAYWALLED

    I am pleasantly surprised that the Lamestream media is finally starting to admit that the covid vaxx is not as “fully safe and effective” as the Official Narrative claims.

    They however have a long way to go towards admitting the full extent of the harm down and that this is a huge medical-political scandal, one of the biggest, if not the biggest ever.

    Perhaps the only bigger scandal is the revised food pyramid of the USDA 1992 de-emphasing consumption of animal fats and meats in favour of more carbs.

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      John Connor II

      https://www.rebelnews.com/number_of_victorian_workers_harmed_by_covid_jabs_revealed_as_claims_top_4_37m

      Perhaps the only bigger scandal is the revised food pyramid of the USDA 1992 de-emphasing consumption of animal fats and meats in favour of more carbs.

      I remember many years ago I said that turning the food pyramid upside down would be more accurate.
      Industry corruption and fraud now exposed. Right again! 😁

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      Tel

      You can check disability trend data in the USA and take note there was a surge during second half of 2021 and first half of 2022 which was about when the jabs were given to younger people.

      https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?g=17wSc

      The data bounces around somewhat, and it comes from the BLS household survey, therefore you can consider it a bit noisy. However, even with the noise you can see the big jump with centre on Jan 2022 is unmistakable. Those are year on year numbers, and at that time the number of disabled people in the USA was increasing at a rate of 7.5% P/A which is huge.

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        Ross

        I’ve seen longer time frame charts of that disability trend in the US as well. There’s an uptrend around 2010 as if reporting etc changed or some other impact causing disabilities. It sort of tails off towards 2020, then there’s that dramatic uptick again in 2021 into 2022. So, the vaccine defenders allege there was always an upward trend and that 2021/22 is only an aberration. “Nothing to see here”. Except there is, if you look at it objectively.

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          Tel

          A lot of the FRED charts are broken into older discontinued series and newer series that don’t go back so far.

          It’s a survey and I would guess methodology does change, as well as the definition of what counts as “disability”.

          At any rate, the recent short term surge does seem suspiciously well aligned with the jabs … although that in itself is not proof that one causes the other. It’s good supporting evidence when added to the heart damage and nerve damage mechanisms, that have been documented in individual cases, and also added to various other strange statistics like players collapsing on field. Then there’s troponin studies, and ECG studies … too many different factors all point in the same direction.

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      Kim

      They should sue. They moment they were mandated to take the vax those doing the mandating took on the responsibility for the safety of the vax hence are liable.

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      Hanrahan

      Nothing I’ve heard/read gives me comfort that the current excess deaths are a temporary thing.

      Rule of 72 says that if that excess is “only” 7.2% then the population of the jabbed will halve in 10 years – + births which are reduced anyway.

      Note: I am not a mathematician/statistician, corrections accepted cheerfully.

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    David Maddison

    Even the World Homicide Organisation is now admitting “excess deaths” related to the pandemic, but not the Australian Government. Because, officially, the covid vaccine is “fully safe and effective”. However the WHO do not admit the likely cause.

    Dr John Campbell discusses.

    https://youtu.be/hVX-jK90HCM

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    John Connor II

    Dr Martens Under Fire Over Boots Featuring Transgender With Mastectomy Scars

    The popular footwear brand Dr Martens has sparked a backlash after promoting new boots featuring a transgender person who’s had her breasts removed.

    The boots were featured in a photo shared on the official Doc Martens Instagram account last week, while advertising a giveaway for the new design by “queer feminist” artist Jess Vosseteig.

    The latest woke move follows calls to boycott Costa Coffee after a cartoon image of a ‘trans man’ with double-mastectomy scars was spotted at one of their stores.

    https://www.drmartens.com/us/en/diy-docs

    What goes through their heads…

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      Klem

      It’s called creating ad-buzz. If they hadn’t done it, you wouldn’t be writing about Doc Martin products.

      I thought Doc Martin went out of business 30 years ago, now I know they’re still around.

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    John Connor II

    Meat-induced pandemic imminent, media warn

    Media operatives are warning about an imminent pandemic caused by meat as the globalist war against beef intensifies.

    “The next pandemic could spring from the US meat supply, new report finds,” reported USA Today last month, followed by The Deccan Herald: “Can meat start the next pandemic?” A Truthout headline last week read: “Harvard Report: US Meat Supply Could Start the Next Global Pandemic.”

    According to the Harvard report, meat may spark the next pandemic through zoonotic diseases which spread from animals to humans.

    Indeed, publications like the New York Times reported last week that a salmonella outbreak has been linked to beef, citing a report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) that 16 people across the US have been infected.

    The outbreak follows another CDC report last week warning about meat injuries caused by a tick bite. The ‘lone star tick’ bite triggers the victim’s immune system into fighting off the tick’s saliva, which contains molecules very similar to those in alpha-gal, a sugar found in products from mammals such as meat and dairy. This can lead to alpha-gal syndrome (AGS), a condition which can cause severe allergic reactions to red meat and dairy.

    Warnings about a zoonotic outbreak are integral to the World Health Organization’s One Health agenda, which links such viruses to “climate change”. Because pandemic diseases are zoonotic and spread from animals to humans, human health must be looked at in the context of animals and the environment or what is called the “human-animal-environment interface”. A zoonotic outbreak, therefore, would open the door for climate policies and mandates to stop the spread.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2023/07/22/deadly-covid-style-pandemic-could-easily-start-in-us-report-finds/70442786007/

    Sounds like they’re getting desperate now.
    I refuse to indulge their nonsense.
    Be a hero – eat meat. Lotsa meat. Yummy, juicy, succulent, health-giving meat.
    Be a zero – eat bugs.

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      John Connor II

      CDC Warns of Anthrax Bioterrorist Attack as FDA Approves Vaccine

      The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has just issued an update warning of the threat of anthrax being used as a bioterrorist attack.

      The CDC updated its website to warn that anthrax would most likely be used if the United States is hit with a bioterrorist attack.

      According to the CDC’s website:

      “If a bioterrorist attack were to happen, Bacillus anthracis, the bacteria that causes anthrax, would be one of the biological agents most likely to be used.”

      “Anthrax makes a good weapon because it can be released quietly and without anyone knowing,” the CDC’s warning continues.

      “The microscopic spores could be put into powders, sprays, food, and water.

      “Because they are so small, you may not be able to see, smell, or taste them.”

      The CDC warning comes after the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved a new anthrax vaccine just last week.

      The FDA recently approved Emergent BioSolution’s new anthrax vaccine for adults 18-65.

      https://slaynews.com/news/cdc-warns-anthrax-bioterrorist-attack-fda-approves-vaccine/

      How fortunate there’s a vaxx ready and waiting…

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        John Connor II

        The World Economic Forum is promoting HIV vaccines, “which only need to be taken once every two months.”

        https://twitter.com/Xx17965797N/status/1686843180925267968

        Only 6 a year! 😆
        Schwab: We need to get rid of zese oxygen vasters faster.

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          John Connor II

          A Pfizer ad on Twitter claims that 3 out of 4 US adults are at “high risk” for severe Covid-19.

          The data from the cited study in the Pfizer ad saying 3 out of 4 US adults are at high (aka increased) risk of severe Covid are from 2015-2018. But this ad is being run in July 2023—after nearly the entire population has either already been infected, vaccinated, or both, each circumstance, we have been told, decreases one’s risk of severe Covid. In other words, Pfizer’s own ad suggests that prior infection and vaccination have not reduced the number of people at high risk of severe Covid. Does Pfizer want us to believe that its product—the vaccine—did not lower the rate of people at high risk of severe Covid?

          https://www.silentlunch.net/p/pfizer-ad-spreads-misinformation

          Oh how the lies come back to bite you on the ass…

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          David Maddison

          How convenient, the HIV eOD-GT8 60-mer vaccine is mRNA based.

          https://www.hiv.gov/blog/encouraging-first-in-human-results-for-a-promising-hiv-vaccine/

          The team reports that they’re now collaborating with Moderna, the developer of one of the two successful mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines, on an mRNA version of eOD-GT8 60-mer. That’s exciting because mRNA vaccines are much faster and easier to produce and modify, which should now help to move this line of research along at a faster clip.

          Indeed, two International AIDS Vaccine Initiative (IAVI)-sponsored clinical trials of the mRNA version are already underway, one in the U.S. and the other in Rwanda and South Africa [4]. It looks like this team and others are now on a promising track toward following the basic science and developing a multistep HIV vaccination regimen that guides the immune response and its stepwise phases in the right directions.

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            Ross

            The mRNA vaccines are only faster because the long term safety studies have never been done!! That was the forced short cut they were able to achieve via the EUA’s. Also, there’s been doubt thrown over that theory that mRNA vaccines are actually easier and quicker to produce. I’ve heard other vaccinologists say that’s untrue.

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        Graeme No.3

        Didn’t the USA Administration expressed concern that the Russian attack might have removed stocks of anthrax from the Bio research laboratories that the Russians made sure they weren’t left available in the early days of the war.
        The Russian would have anthrax in their territory and possibly in their own laboratories.
        The British looked at anthrax as a possible weapon in 1940/1.
        Gruinard Island is a small, oval-shaped Scottish island approximately 2 kilometres long by 1 km wide, located in Gruinard Bay, about halfway between Gairloch and Ullapool. The island was used for germ warfare experiments during World War Two. It was declared free of Anthrax by the Ministry of Defence in April 1990 (after decontamination).

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    John Connor II

    Thursday entertainment: Car recycling

    https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_rykio6fRCm1ub2urw.mp4

    Try that with an EV! 😆

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    David Maddison

    Neil DeGrasse Tyson goes woke and gets confused about gender.

    Gad Saad discusses.

    https://youtu.be/f39nBhLZEiU

    7 mins

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    John Connor II

    Just a reminder of the national commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the end of the Vietnam War that will be held on the 18th August 2023.
    We can pay homage to those who sacrificed their lives to give us the freedoms we have now, freedoms being rapidly destroyed by the lying sociopaths in government.
    Given a choice of the VC or das gubermint now, I wonder who they would have considered tbe greater threat…

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    Dennis

    Makarratta

    Makarrata is much more than just a synonym for treaty, though. It is a complex Yolngu word describing a process of conflict resolution, peacemaking and justice.

    It is a philosophy that helped develop and maintain lasting peace among the Yolngu people of north-east Arnhem Land.

    “Makarrata has so many layers of meaning,” says Merrikiyawuy Ganambarr-Stubbs, a Gumatj woman and principal of Arnhem Land’s Yirrkala School.

    Aboriginal woman Merrikiyawuy Ganambarr-Stubbs looks hopeful.
    Merrikiyawuy Ganambarr-Stubbs describes a Makarrata as “a negotiation of peace”.(ABC News: Mitchell Woolnough)
    “The first one, and the main one, is peace after a dispute.

    “Makarrata literally means a spear penetrating, usually the thigh, of a person that has done wrong… so that they cannot hunt anymore, that they cannot walk properly, that they cannot run properly; to maim them, to settle them down, to calm them — that’s Makarrata.”

    One of the other layers of meaning is more aligned to the spirit of what many hope a treaty process would look like.

    “It can be a negotiation of peace, or a negotiation and an agreement where both parties agree to one thing so that there is no dispute or no other bad feeling,” says Ms Ganambarr-Stubbs.

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      KP

      Sounds just like the maoris re-writing the treaty of Waitangi every decade as they think of a new way to cash in on it.. “Many meanings, which we will tell you about as we go..”

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      yarpos

      Sounds like peace, equality and the end of the gravy train. I expect that it wont happen and is not really wanted.

      Use any word you like but keep sending more money.

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    David Maddison

    COPIED from Quora Digest.

    Did a Grumman F11 Tiger shoot itself down?

    Yes. On Sept. 21, 1956, test pilot Tom Attridge Flying an F-11F Tiger fired a test shot from the fighter’s four 20mm cannons. He then went into a shallow dive and accelerated past Mach-1. A few seconds later his canopy was broken and his engine shuttered, he could only get about 78% power. Two miles from touchdown his engine gave out completely and he was forced to ejects. Attridge had fired the burst of 20mm cannon shells and without realizing it had overtaken the rounds he’d fired and flew into them there by becoming the only pilot on record to have shot himself down!

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    John Connor II

    COVID-19 Vaccines Were Never Made With mRNA

    For the first time in human history, the gene regulatory program of healthy individuals has been extensively manipulated.

    Contrary to prior information, RNA-based COVID-19 injections were produced using modified RNA, not messenger RNA (mRNA).

    Modified RNA (modRNA) carries significant health risks.

    These risks not only pertain to current COVID-19 injections and boosters but, unless we take action now, also to all future RNA-based vaccines.

    Although we were informed that COVID-19 injections contain mRNA, a vaccine relying on “natural” mRNA would not endure long enough to trigger an immune response before being eliminated by our immune system.

    To make mRNA viable for regular medical use, scientists had to artificially modify it to enhance both its efficiency and lifespan, resulting in modRNA.

    modRNA has been engineered for extended viability and maximum translation. While mRNA displays a cell-specific expression pattern, modRNA can infiltrate nearly all cell types.

    Perhaps most astonishingly, during the development of COVID-19 vaccines and boosters, scientists were already aware that targeted delivery of modRNA was unfeasible. ModRNA cannot be selectively delivered to specific cells. As a result, it attacks perfectly healthy cells, breaching natural barriers like the blood-brain barrier.

    https://greatgameindia.com/covid-19-vaccines-were-never-made-with-mrna/

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    David Maddison

    Now there’s a leprosy scare in Florida.

    The BS just never ends.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/8/2/why-are-leprosy-cases-surging-in-us-state-of

    Why are leprosy cases surging in US state of Florida?

    Leprosy has been uncommon in the United States but studies suggest it is now spreading within its population.

    2 Aug 2023

    Leprosy cases are surging in Florida, suggesting the chronic infectious disease may have become endemic in the southeastern United States.

    The number of cases more than doubled in the southeastern states over the last decade, with Florida among the top reporting states, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said in its latest report.

    Central Florida, in particular, accounted for 81 percent of cases reported in Florida and almost one-fifth of nationally reported cases.

    SEE LINK FOR REST

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      John Connor II

      Leprosy has been there for decades, but like EVERYTHING, it’s ramping up…

      Nothing to fear but fear itself in this case.

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        Hanrahan

        it’s ramping up…

        Is anyone asking why?

        It seems to me many things are ramping up.

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          KP

          “Is anyone asking why?”

          No, the answer might be found in a range of modern environments, but the authorities don’t want to know about any of them! I’d bet on immune system suppression, but it could be modern chemicals, modern food, modern drugs, modern EMF radiation, or the now-familiar mRNA vaccines.

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            Old Goat

            KP,
            They will just get on “disability assistance” and will get better . Jesus not required . The circus rolls on .

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      Tarquin+Wombat-Carruthers

      Hmmm. Doesn’t Trump live in Florida? Quick, Democrats! Here’s a new opportunity for indictment, along with:
      Flying in his own aircraft over Democratic states;
      Landing his aircraft at airports in Democratic states;
      Making speeches at rallies in Democratic states;
      Unlike his successor, failing to cure cancer;
      During his term in office, reducing the unemployment rates of blacks and hispanics at greater rates than for whites, thereby promoting racism;
      Allowing the rise of CO2 levels, thus generating increases in vegetation world-wide, leading ultimately to more fires;
      Setting foot in North Korea;
      Failing to start any wars, thus impacting the profits of the arms industry;
      Owing golf courses, whose acreage could have been better used for wind turbines and/or solar panels;
      Outdoing his successor in making articulate speeches.

      The potential for cumulative prison time exceeding 5,000 years is obvious!

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    John Connor II

    Beijing destroyed by biblical floods

    https://www.youtube.com/live/9LbLXRtGoDg

    Serpent-ZA report.

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    John Connor II

    Leprosy has been there for decades, but like EVERYTHING, it’s ramping up…

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    Andrew McRae

    Partly in reply to Mike Jonas last week.

    A comment made in parliament yesterday by the member for Banks about the “Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation) Bill 2023”. (my bolding)

    Mr COLEMAN (Banks)
    Under the bill, something that the government authorises cannot be misinformation, but if somebody criticises
    the government it can be misinformation. ACMA will have extraordinary powers which will mean that the digital
    platforms will self-censor a whole range of content, which will suppress the legitimate free speech of Australians.
    ACMA will be able to require any Australian to appear before it to answer questions about misinformation or
    disinformation and fine that person $8,000 per day if they do not appear before the ACMA misinformation
    interrogation. That is quite an extraordinary provision. If you’re an academic, what you say cannot be
    misinformation, but if you disagree with the academic that can be misinformation under the bill. It’s all in there.
    Please read it.

    Which you can: https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/communications-legislation-amendment-combatting-misinformation-and-disinformation-bill2023-june2023.pdf

    Preventing the spread of disinformation sounds like a noble goal, though we have to ask how intentionally damaging untruths are not already covered by laws against (a word rhyming with hoard which may be a forbidden trigger word on this blog). They define (on page 12) disinformation in part as being intentionally deceptive and also requiring “the provision of the content on the digital service is reasonably likely to cause or contribute to serious harm”, but with what requisite foreknowledge can one predict harm? What if the degree of harm depends on circumstances you can’t predict? Establishing malicious intent can be difficult. That’s to say nothing of jobs in which the worker is expected to be of service to others by restating and acting on propositions they don’t personally believe but which the client believes and is paying for. That hazard applies to consultants and politicians, not that our current MPs seem to have figured that out yet. At least the current draft defines the threshold of likely damage as fairly high, “serious harm”, which should limit how often this disinformation rule would be applied. But the disinformation aspect is not even the worst aspect of the draft.

    Misinformation does not require malicious intent. What about unexpected reactions to jokes? What about situations in which you dissuade someone from taking one of two possible legal solutions to a problem, but the government prevents them from using the alternative solution? Are you liable for any “serious harm” arising from the unsolved problem even though you didn’t stop that person from using the other solution?

    Do most Australians think that outsourcing the determination of malicious intent and censorship over to private sector software companies, essentially the outsourcing of the justice and enforcement branches, is a good idea?
    Why does the bill make pretences about industry bodies deciding their own code of practice for responding to misinformation when the government can deem a registered or absent misinformation code as being “deficient” and order ACMA’s own code to be followed anyway?
    Is clause 7(3)(i) a backdoor to getting anything classified as misinformation?

    Why is this bill so focused on digital platforms? It is quite strange that an attempt to inhibit an important social and civil function such as saying what you believe to be true even if others disagree (so attracting a retort of “misinformation”) should be originated under the “infrastructure” portfolio. As though this were a purely technical matter, which it obviously isn’t. Did they think you wouldn’t notice this attempt if it was grouped under infrastructure? Then they underestimated you, dear reader.

    The current sitting session of parliament ends today, and another one runs three days next week before a three week break.
    Please everyone, make sure your MP and Senator know what you think about this draft bill.

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      Tel

      Obviously the people who wrote this fully intend to use it for political reasons to silence dissent.

      Therefore, it won’t change anyone’s mind to say, “Hey buddy, I think this might be used for political purposes!” … because they already know that, and will either ignore you or deny it.

      Both of the major parties support this, and presumably the public “servants” also support it … meaning they don’t care about your vote either.

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        Mike Jonas

        It doesn’t look like the opposition is supporting the proposed mis/disinformation legislation. From my Liberal MP today:

        The Coalition will be opposing Labor’s proposed new laws on misinformation and disinformation. 

        These laws are a threat to free speech and should be torn up.

        Freedom of speech and expression are fundamental principles in a democratic society.

        The draft legislation places enormous power into the hands of the regulator, the Australian Communications and Media Authority. 

        The definition of misinformation is very broad, and the risk is that it could capture legitimate content. Things which should be allowed to be said in a free and democratic society, even if we disagree with them.

        The big digital platforms are likely to self-censor content in response to these laws, to avoid the prospect of significant penalties being imposed by the Australian Government.

        It creates a huge financial incentive for tech platforms to remove statements made by Australians, even if they were made in good faith.

        When governments seek to put undue restrictions on our democratic freedoms, we must speak up.

        I’ll be fighting against these laws

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    liberator

    Just Stop Oil protestors.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH5ZOlbu4cg
    I love these idiots. A quick glance at them and you can see:
    hi vis vests – polyester – Oil, take off your vests
    Adidas backpack – made from synthetics – from oil – throw away your backpack
    Idiot with bike helmet – outer case plastic, inner polystyrene – from oil – throw away your helmet.
    Their banner – doesn’t look natural i.e. from paper/cotton -(even if it was “natural” manufactured using fossil fuels), but probably a plastic base as would be the inks for the printing – from oil.
    Glasses – plastic frames/lenses – from oil
    I could go on.

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      ozfred

      Perhaps why I have 4 sets of exRayban frames for my set of eyeglasses with various functionality….
      And a exRayban frame (all metal) will last more than 15 years. Optical shops don’t appreciate the idea….

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    Broadie

    Everyone had an agenda and they all took their turn!

    It was a Flu-Luge of opportunities created by the 2019 influenza. Listen to the downhill slide that dragged everybody in.

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    Broadie

    Another strange agenda starts to resolve into a sensible plan.

    Farm ownership in the Ukraine

    ‘First Nations’ (aka Eskimos) to decide upon payment of a suitable fee as to what occurs on Western Australian Farms

    The plan is that you shut up and eat your crickets!

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    Honk R Smith

    A window into the country club.
    Hunter Carlson chats with the newly famous Devon Archer.
    Hunter Biden ‘business’ partner.
    A little glimpse of the genteel closed door interview chat Mr. Archer had with Congress a few days ago.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQTEICoAD7w
    WARNING: (possible misinformation and of dubious truthyness, unreliable until officially fact checked by a 26 year old employee at Googly.)

    Historical note: this pleasant and refined fellow was in ‘business’ with an active crack addict during the period discussed.
    There are active crack addicts in my neighborhood.
    I must reevaluate my consideration of potential business partners.
    That, or recognize that I am living in a dual reality, half of which is inaccessible.
    Part of my problem is the failure to choose parents that would name me Devon.
    Somehow, I can’t imagine hearing, “Devon, pick up those bricks and bring ’em here”.

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      Honk R Smith

      That should read Tucker Carlson.
      I unintentionally insulted the man.

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      Sambar

      In certain parts of Australia “Devon” was a luncheon sausage. Something used in sandwiches, along the lines of “what would you like in your sandwich? I’l have some slices of Devon please.”

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        Annie

        Very curious, how did it acquire the name? Devon is an English county, more noted for its moors and tors, Dartmoor and Exmoor ponies, coasts and cream teas; I’m not aware of any fame to do with a confected luncheon sausage!

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    Honk R Smith

    Learnt a new term …
    ‘Coincidence Theory’
    Like ‘it came from the lab’ … no … ‘it came from nature across the street from the lab’.
    Total coincidence.
    Coincidence is non-corelative until absolutely proven, 57 years from now when the documents are unsealed … well most of them anyways.
    And the coincidental people are dead.

    We must ban Coincidence Theorists from the interwebs.

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    David Maddison

    Dr John Clauser, 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics.

    According to Dr. Clauser, “The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous corruption of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of billions of people. Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-journalistic pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a wide variety of other unrelated ills. It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business marketing agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and environmentalists. In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis. There is, however, a very real problem with providing a decent standard of living to the world’s large population and an associated energy crisis. The latter is being unnecessarily exacerbated by what, in my opinion, is incorrect climate science.”

    https://co2coalition.org/publications/nobel-laureate-john-clauser-elected-to-co2-coalition-board-of-directors/

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    David Maddison

    Now medical treatment depends on your conformity to the Official Narrative.

    https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/08/02/shocking-woman-denied-cancer-treatment-in-portland-after-criticizing-transgenderism-n786679

    Shocking: Woman Denied Cancer Treatment in Portland After Criticizing Transgenderism

    By Bonchie | 7:45 PM on August 02, 2023

    A woman has reportedly been denied cancer treatment at a Portland area hospital after she criticized the facility’s public presentation of a “transgender flag.”

    The woman in question, identified only as Marlene to protect her, sent a message to Libs of TikTok, a popular social media account that documents transgender insanity. The message was originally sent to someone at Oregon Health and Science University after what appears to be numerous prior communications with staff there.

    Does Marlene seem a little forward and hostile in her complaint? Perhaps, but I’d also suggest that someone suffering from cancer should be given leeway in such a situation. She clearly didn’t like the transgender flag being pushed on her and felt like it was insulting in light of her being targeted by transgender activists in the past (a common theme in today’s political environment). I don’t find that out of bounds at all, and if this was just one of many messages, her frustration is understandable.

    Given Portland’s progressive pedigree, you’d think the hospital staff would have sympathy for Marlene, but being a woman falls well below being transgender on the intersectional hierarchy of the left. That means that transgender ideology takes precedence over any notion of actual women existing as a distinct demographic.

    SEE LINK FOR REST

    In Australia, a woman (at least one, there are probably others as well as men) are being denied heart transplants even today, for not taking the Covid vax.

    Back in the day, it was considered a violation of medical ethics to deny people medical treatment based upon their beliefs, behaviour etc..

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “if you wanted a weapon to destroy a society, how could you improve upon the confluence of carbon obsession and woke? you’ll make them poor. you’ll convince them that math is racist. you’ll pit group against group, make a muddle of sexuality, vilify child rearing, and have everyone so furious fighting over and politicizing nothing that they’ll barely notice their demographic decline, their school scores sliding, their science stultifying and politicizing, and their family structures dissolving. you’ll have them clamoring for truth ministries and ideological purity over fact.”

    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/how-to-derail-a-civilization?publication_id=323914&post_id=135673044&isFreemail=true&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

    Can you find “Their Voice” in that list?

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    another ian

    On modern complexity and parts availability

    “Of clouds, silver linings, and airlines”

    https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2023/08/of-clouds-silver-linings-and-airlines.html

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    KP

    Caitlin Johnstone explaining how reporters have gone from being working class people who took pride in sticking it to the wealthy, to Ivy League graduates who just want to ingratiate themselves with the powerful people they write about-

    ““Thirty or forty years ago, fifty years ago, journalists really were outsiders. That’s why they all had unions; they made shit money, they came from like working class families. They hated the elite. They hated bankers and politicians. It was kind of like a boss-employee relationship — they hated them and wanted to throw rocks at them and take them down pegs.”

    “The fantasy among reporters in the nineties about politicians started to be, I want to be the person that hangs out with the candidate after the speech and has a beer and is sort of close to power. And that’s kind of the model, that’s where we’re at right now. That’s kind of the problem is that basically people in the business want to be behind the rope line with people of influence. ”

    https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2023/08/04/mainstream-journalists-are-cloistered-ivy-league-educated-trust-fund-kids/

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    KP

    More WEF enthusiasts-

    “Sydney’s motorway tolls should remain high as an incentive to use public transport, and new tolls introduced to other main roads to reduce traffic and reinvigorate the city’s high streets, a leading think tank argues….. It is one of six alternatives to reducing motorway tolls proposed by the committee, which counts motorway giant Transurban among its members, alongside Uber, GoGet, bus operator Transdev, Transport for NSW and several Sydney councils.”

    They don’t expect to be eating cockroaches or catching a bus themselves of course..

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    Hanrahan

    Is youtube disabled on brave? I’ve heard that they are working to beat ad blockers and brave has a native blocker.

    Have they gone live?

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      Hanrahan

      I was right, YT is playing funny buggers.

      I worked around this by adding uBlock Origin found in “extensions”.

      I updated Brave to find the menu needed.

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        Broadie

        “Well all be ruined” said Hanrahan!

        Thanks mate, my sudden absence of some youtube videos ie: Pauline Hanson’s Please Explain has now been resolved.

        Cheers

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Lawyer: Newest Indictment Gives Trump Legal Power That He Never Had Before”

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/lawyer-newest-indictment-gives-trump-legal-power-never/

    Also picked up in Covid and Coffee

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      David of Cooyal in Oz

      Thanks a i,
      Great news, and a possibility I’d not considered. Didn’t get close.
      May it survive the onslaught of the swamp’s lawfare.
      Cheers
      Dave B

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        Lucky

        Yes, all true.
        The assumptions and suggestions of Senator Roberts are all true as well.

        Pfizer vaccines are supplied in batches which have disparate characteristics. In particular, the batches used on their own employees were ‘placebo’. They did not work, but neither did the regular batches, and being essentially placebo, did no harm either.
        The program was run by the US military. This explains the poor level of testing, and the lack of concern by the FDA (we thought at the time it was corruption) which means that it was all approved for use regardless of testing.

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    another ian

    Won’t be headline news at “Their ABC”

    “Anti-Trump NYT writer shocks with column bashing ‘elite’ as self-dealing jerks: ‘We’re the bad guys’ ”

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/anti-trump-nyt-writer-shocks-column-bashing-elite-self-dealing-jerks-were-the-bad-guys

    Or various other places

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    yarpos

    I was reading a long piece on Substack and this paragraph jumped out at me. Its as though they sit in Dan Andrews cabinet. PMC = professional managerial class, a term they establish earlier

    “Normative” is the word here. Because PMC education doesn’t actually involve learning anything useful, its representatives show a vast carelessness about what actually happens on the ground: all they ask is that what happened can be presented as a success, or at least an interesting learning experience, demonstrating that “measures of success” need to be more “granular,”or that “better coordination between stakeholders is needed” or finally that “our message needs to be more focused.” But there isn’t, and there cannot be, any acceptance that their ideas may be wrong, because they are by definition normatively correct.”

    Full essay https://aurelien2022.substack.com/p/reality-would-like-a-word?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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    another ian

    Sounds like more of the MBA doctrine that you only need to know about managing, you don’t need to know anything about what you are managing.

    Hence the great Bud Lite success story.

    I’ve heard that MBA stands for “More BS Again”

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