By Jo Nova
Despite spending millions to tell Australians that Good People Vote Yes, Australians overwhelmingly voted No to treating people differently according to their skin color, their heritage, or something their ancestors did.
They voted no to giving a new group of bureaucrats power to slow down, interfere or hold to ransom any laws passed through the Australian Parliament. And in a sense they voted No to shallow relentless, vague advertising too.
Spontaneous No Signs were seen in nearly every state of Australia in 110km zones:
Seen in Western Australia | Photo from Stephen Neil.
The main benefit of the $365 million dollars the referendum cost is that now a lot of Australians feel more confident talking about race, while a lot of others found out that that calling people “racist” doesn’t persuade them. That may not have been what those in charge were aiming for. But hopefully we can have more productive conversations now instead of endless platitudes and meaningless pandering. The culture of victimhood is not helping anyone.
Significantly, the Referendum failed in every single state of Australia. Nationally it was 39.7% – Yes to 60.2% – No. The only Territory to vote Yes, was the Australian Capital Territory (ACT) the levitating bubble-land which voted 60% “Yes” in a country where every other constituency voted the opposite. Remarkably, the Northern Territory, which has by far the highest proportion of actual aboriginal people (30%) voted just as strongly against the Voice as all the other states did (62% voted No).
The Voice truly was a tool of the Bankers, the Bureaucrat-class and Big Business, and Australians saw through it.
Across the Tasman, New Zealanders voted to throw out the Labor Government. It’s a good day!
Good summary Jo and amazing that Andrew Bolt loudly predicted this result weeks ago.
But the silly Teal seats voted YES as we would expect, but who cares?
And great to see the change in NZ and let’s hope they can quickly heal after their dreadful Labor experience.
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Three districts of note voting “Yes”, Teal electorates, Canberra and inner Melbourne all had one thing in common: No risk that their livelihoods or amenity would be adversely affected.
We, in the rest of the country, have already experienced this.
BTW 99% of Australia by area voted “No.
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Yes, the demographics are certainly interesting.
How many of these same inner-city politically and socially correct ‘bubbles’ are also populated with the same media, political and public figures driving the mantra of “…climate change will kill us all but we can fix it (if you give us all your money!)”
Who knows, perhaps there’s a nice correlation between referendum voting and electric car sales?
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Another thing would be not knowing the first name (or even laid eyes on in real life) of and actuall blackfulla.
One thing these people don’t realise is that, the handout brigade are the minority (only just these days).
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Even blacks know sit-down money isn’t good.
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Fred
I lived in Dubbo NSW some years back, and there are plenty of Indigenous around that area. Steve, one of them, worked for me. An outstanding individual who worked exceptionally hard.
The stupid welcome to country ceremonies appeared at that time. Steve said to me he did not agree with them – he said we were all one country anyway. So yes, not all indigenous are of the handout mentality.
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It speaks volumes that NT, with the highest indigenous population, votes NO! And Canberra with the lowest votes Yes!
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Perhaps Canberrans should import some of the indigenous from NT and offer them homes and jobs. They are the people who have supported Albanese and dream so they should step up . .
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Perhaps Canberrans should get out of their little socialist bubble and learn how the rest of Australians live. They should take the ABC Ultimo types with them. Must have been a shock to the inner city ABC know-alls.
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Yes, Neville, the Aussie person has long detected and called out nonsense.
That photo with the 110 made into NO is a genius, clever example of the Aussie larrikin streak, which I love.
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What a lot of Nitric Oxide! Well said Australia. The voice of the people…
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Nitric oxide (nitrogen oxide or nitrogen monoxide) is a colorless gas with the formula NO
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N2O is laughing gas, an anaesthetiic, is what you are referring to, I assume.
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N2O is nitrous oxide, not nitric oxide… so the answer to your question is NO.
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If Loving your chemistry lesson
I’ve kind of jumped the queue in order to highlight an article l was reading whilst queuing (pun intended) to vote the day before the referendum (took my iPad to ease the pain of lining up to file a vote I’d decided on months ago)
It’s a written summary of a speech from August this year by barrister and former governor of WA- Malcolm McCusker. By all means read it all, it’s quite lengthy. However, the point l want to draw attention to relates to the National Indigenous Australians Agency (NIAA).
Firstly, this agency has barely been mentioned in MSM during the push for the Voice (l almost used the word debate but decided on ‘push’ due to indisputable bias).
Secondly, the proposed mechanisms and resources implied by The Voice are present and adequately funded via the NIAA. The only element missing is the “recognition” entreaty. Given the majority of referendums fail, if you want a Yes, keep the question(s) simple, don’t prevaricate.
Thirdly, Linda Burney is Minister for Indigenous Australians. Her position enables her to pass on NIAA recommendations to Parliament. Supposedly the removal of her position would have fast tracked Voice recommendations.
According to Mr McCusker’s speech/article, the NIAA has $4.5 billion in funding this financial year. The funding is there, the desire to fix indigenous problems is there. Accountability? No. Let’s try and get this sh*t sorted out. When there are less people focusing their energy on blaming others, goals can actually be reached
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*first line should have been “I’m”. Here’s the link
https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2023/10/unanswered-questions-that-unmask-the-voice/
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The highest NO votes were in areas with the highest Aboriginal populations. The highest Yes votes were in the whitest, most elite city areas. Tells you exactly where the money, effort and resources would have gone.
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The NIMBY types voted for it.
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True Noel from Noosa spring to mind.
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Indeed. And also where the current spends are being pocketed as jobs and perks and other handouts.
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The NO campaign was highly effective, if you don’t know, then vote NO.
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It was a fabulous day and no matter how the boosters tried to portray it it was a great slap down for those who wished to divide us, for those who believe they are better than the great unwashed and for the communist elements in our society who wanted to taint Australians as racist. As that well known Labor stalwart, Graham Richardson, always says, the mob will get it right every time. For those not familiar with the term he was saying that the plebs, the common folk, always get it right when they vote. This vote showed that the further you live from the city centre the more likely you are to know right from wrong. Canberra got it 100% wrong, voting the exact opposite to the rest of the country. No wonder the swamp are always at odds with the people. It should be seen as a great reason to disperse the public serpents and send them to the nether regions where they might experience reality.
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Sadly, looking at their woe-is-me-shame proclamations today, they are reality-deniers.
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Hmmm. What can we call them? Referendum deniers? Democracy deniers?
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The mod didn’t get it right when they voted in Rudd instead of Howard. IMHO
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After seeing how the AEC conducts them selves Karl it makes me wonder what the hell goes on in their brains.For an organization who are supposed to be neutral,they sure as hell don’t act that way.The ticks and crosses fiasco is just one example.
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It’s worse than the Socialists trying to just divide us. It was an attempt to permanently HI – JACK the Australian democratic system of government.
The real objective will become much clearer over time.
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Equality and equity are not the same thing: https://www.leadmn.org/sites/default/files/News/News2018-19/MY_SeptBlog_EI_Series.png
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Correct
https://www.creators.com/read/thomas-sowell/01/15/the-equality-racket
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The slogan works again. Simple, eh Simon.
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Oh yeah and another thing about this dreadful divisive referendum with its covert agenda. It appears Indigenous people voted strongly against the proposal – they weren’t the vindictive ones. The smart-a..e collective of subversia of lawyers and academics got the boot. My contempt remains for them.
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I doubt it was the indiginees who voted strongly against it but their neighbours who could foretell the result. That is not racist BTW.
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In QLD the pollimg booths in Aboriginal comunities voted strongly yes,
The first set of numbers are Yes, Second NO.
Bamaga, 263 175
Bloomfield 139 70
Hope Vale, 233 76
Horn Island 86 50
Kowanyama 203 192
Lockhart River 170 87
Pormpuraaw 153 121
Thursday Island 262 100
Thursday Island PPVC 510 234
There are what they call remote mobile booths, all are Yes.
Leichhardt, QLD
Polling place results
https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/ReferendumDivisionResults-29581-168.htm
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The remote mobile polling places in the NT voted 73% Yes.
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From some simple maths that equates to 65% Yes to 35% No. Still a far cry from the claimed 80% support by Indigenous.
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“It appears Indigenous people voted strongly against the proposal”
And even further away from this claim.
That is my electorate only, a small snapshot. Strops numbers are another snapshot.
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The claim of 80% was in remote communities, Strop has it at 73%.
The ones I have listed have a substantial majority of white people, business owners, medical, services and their families.
To claim 60% as a whooping and 65% as just scraping in, takes a special sort of stupid.
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The claim on the Yes campaign polling booth signs was 80% of ATSI peoples and their website says “more than 80%”. Didn’t say it was remote communities. Just ATSI peoples as a group.
My figure of 73% was simply the mobile booth totals calculated from the AEC site. Like yours, it doesn’t distinguish or know the populations of ATSI peoples at any booth to know whether the vote represents any group reliably. I’m looking at stats from 3000km away. You may be able to judge the make-up of some booths with your experience.
If we can find a booth with 100% or close to it population of ATSI people’s then we can determine the ATSI support at that booth. But an aboriginal voter at our booth said their elders were telling them to vote No. I know another mob where the elders were saying yes. So one booth isn’t necessarily reliable if they do follow the elder’s advice.
I think the poll showing ATSI support at 59% Yes just before polling day excluded remote communities. So while it’s notably lower than 80% it’s not safe to claim 80% is obviously right or wrong. Plus, the 80% was derived much earlier this year and support for Yes has dropped across the board. Perhaps amongst ATSI peoples too.
Probably somewhere between 60-80%. 🙂
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They should have paid to get in like everyone else, and got a legitimate seat.
No-one has a right to watch a game they didn’t pay to attend.
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Interesting cartoon.
There are only the 3 people in frame outside the fence – 1 adult and 2 different sized children.
That would be assumed to be a father and his children. What sort of mind would think that a parent would deprive his or her young child of the opportunity to watch the game?
Is it supposed to be some form of allegory? If so, it isn’t shiningly clear.
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The left don’t do parental responsibility, that’s the governments job.
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Parental responsibility is prioritising what they need over what they want.
Having a day out with them is one of the rewards.
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It is an interesting cartoon for sure. If the best example the communists can come up with to justify robbing Peter to pay Paul involves “cheating the baseball team out of some honest ticket revenue”, that explains a lot about them 🙂
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If you’re free, you’re not equal, and if you’re equal you’re not free.
– Solzhenitsyn
Equality = mindless automaton bots controlled by Schwab.
No thanks.
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It kind of explains why there are so many mediocre minds at university. They’re propped up by cherry pickers.
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There’s a detailed result with map at
https://www.news.com.au/national/voice-referendum-results?external=true
Yes electorates are blue in the map, No are a pleasant brownish sort of colour.
Without enlarging the map, the only visible blue is the ACT’s three electorates.
A take-home message is surely that Canberra is out of touch with the rest of the country.
If you enlarge the map, you can see some more blue: The inner cities and coastal suburbs of Brisbane, Newcastle, Sydney, Wollongong, Melbourne, Hobart and Perth (not Adelaide, though a couple of electorates went close).
Another notable feature of the campaigns, to my mind, is that these out-of-touch people do not hesitate to label as “misinformation” anything they don’t agree with (like the “No” case). And of course these are the very same people who call for suppression of misinformation – and are putting a bill before parliament to do exactly that.
We have won a battle, but there’s still a war to win.
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Canberra is clearly more intelligent and better educated; and of course as distant as you can be from indigenous people that need help.
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Canberra_T_4_MOD_45144929_%28cropped%29.jpg/1920px-Canberra_T_4_MOD_45144929_%28cropped%29.jpg
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Reading the ABC news portal this morning … They tried to justify the ACT’s result is because they are of a ‘higher learning’ than the Hoi Polloi.
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I got so sick of the coverage by their ABC last night, and discovered a wonderful little youtube channel for 6 News, also doing live coverage! They were manned mainly by 3 very, very young fellas and their little sister, and did an excellent job with the endless commentary required.
If you are on twitter, they post there too.
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Everytime I flicked over to their ABC it was like watching a trial against a NO supporter.
I eventually gave up – fired up the PC and found some much more balanced coverage.
Their ABC are their own worst enemies when it comes to claims of bias. Their coverage last night, (what little I could bear to watch), was appalling.
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It was the same at the BBC, who were very upset at the result.
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Being in SA I knew that the referendum wasn’t going to pass, so I only turned on the TV about 7.45 pm. and found the Channel 9 cricket. After a few minutes I switched to the other commercial channels to find that there advertised programs had been replaced by others not about the vote. So I switched to SBS and found a discussion about the vote which seemed to me to be reasonable and unlike what I would have thought they would be saying. I only gave it 2-3 minutes but then I haven’t looked at the SBS news or Current Affairs programs for some years, and I didn’t bother with the ABC, which I thought would be “all wailing and grief”.
I am surprised by even Adelaide (narrowly) voting against as a couple of trips recently indicated lots of public signs supporting The Voice. Even outside the city the YES vote seemed to be well funded and public. The NO vote seemed to me to be a bloke standing by the main road in peak hour with a hand written sign saying Vote NO.
On the other hand my barber told me 3 weeks ago that the YES vote wasn’t going to be passed. Instead of hundreds of millions of publicity perhaps the Canberra mob might asking people?
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Read more arrogant paternalistic.
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I remember an ABC Trollope saying exactly that after the republic referendum,
I thought that was the hallmark of a conservative, fixity of ideas.
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Only from your perspective. The Canberra echo chamber will take the view that they failed to educate the majority of the population. The lesson for Canberra is that they did not spend enough money on advertising or they need a better ad agency.
I believe Jacitina Price has garnered considerable respect for her lucid commentary on the referendum. Her words are convincing.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-14/senator-jacinta-nampijinpa-price-at-press-club/102855698
(REALLY WORTH Watching the linked video)
Dutton was smart to have Price front the NO campaign. After all it is her portfolio.
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Warren Mundine fired up at journalists/communists with the best comments of all time. Shut them up.
Watch on utube
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Mmmmm I have seen that response a few times from those who beleive with great certainty in their intellectual and moral superiority. We just need to educate (when they mean i doctrinate ) the public. It’s for their own good after all.
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RickWill as Chris Kenny admitted last night the turning point for the voice was when Julian Neeson had to quit the Shadow indigenous affairs portfolio because of his yes stance and Jacinta Price was elevated into that position. The yes vote plummeted from there on .
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Her parents are proud, Jacinta was raised to believe that we are all Australians.
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/voice-to-parliament/so-proud-jacinta-prices-parents-praise-senators-campaigning-efforts/video/0bdc56ad0f0dc9e7527f07b45442ec3f
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Bess Price is a gem.
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Have we got as far as being able to say that an accusation of “misinformation” is now the same as “true information” that the accuser doesn’t like?
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Mail on Line has a story of tears shed (sob) by the Yes campaign and how the No campaign was disinformation and (sob) so on. The most interesting bit are the comments which all cheered the loss by Yes. (Yea)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12630215/Voice-referendum-Yes-campaigner-Thomas-Mayo-unleashes-live-TV-spray-against-No-campaign.html?ico=related-replace
Now for Chris Bowen.
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Typo (auto spell?) – saw threw it —> saw through it
[Mike thanks. I’m hoping that was autocorrect or a 5am thing. We were of course out partying last night. How did I miss that? – Jo]
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“It’s a good day”, You can say that again Jo…….it was a bloody fantastic, emphatic, day!
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Imagine if you ‘invited’ 100 people to your party and 60 declined (via RSVP).
Then you (the party organizer) get all pissy about the people who declined, in advance.
Frankly that is not the type of party I would ever want to attend – how about you?
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Making it even worse when that ‘invitation’ didn’t tell people where it would be, when it would start (or end), if it was catered, BYOB or an open bar.
AND you told your invites that they are responsible for finding out the details, but also that somehow those details don’t matter.
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..and if you didn’t turn up for lack of information you are called a dinosaur or a dickhead…
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Speaking of parties reminds me of Don’s Party, a classic Aussie movie of the left’s bitter tears on election night. Recommended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBvoXpUdcn0
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A gr8 day for conservatives in the South Pacific 👍
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Let us now concentrate on closing the gap between urban aboriginal elites and living conditions for rural Aborigines.
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Nice sentiment but think about it for a moment.
Australians have been trying to “Close the Gap” since 1788 – and have failed miserably despite billions of dollars and endless goodwill
Consider that Noel Pearson himself (the go to man for advice on how to “Close the Gap”) has had $550 million dollars over the last few years for his tiny Cape York community to “Close the Gap” and its as big as ever.
Can you name as single hunting and gathering community that has managed the transition to modernity in the modern era?
The remote area Aborigines are trying to tell you something – but no one is listening.
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So you’re saying we didn’t need ‘The Voice’, we need ‘The Ears’?.
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I’d rather we concentrate on closing the gap between everyday Australians experience and that of the remote and urban poor Aborigine.
Leave the others out of it, the Aboriginal family mafias, the toxic wokeness of many city Aborigines, the greedy, selfish so-called “leaders”.
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So we have the Dept of indigenous Affairs, the National indigenous Australians Agency, all the land councils, etc etc costing taxpayers tens of millions a year. All of these claim that their reason for being is to ensure indigenous people have a say. Why isn’t the media asking these organisations why we’d need ‘the Voice’ if they were doing their taxpayer funded jobs.
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I’d rather we close the gap between fuel, food and energy costs and my bank balance–
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How about we encourage them to stand up and walk across the gap.
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Perhaps they would take time out of their privileged lives to help out in the settlements a la Tony Abbot. IE walk the walk ISO talk the talk. But we all know that addressing disadvantage was nothing but a smoke screen for the Trojan Horse. Why help the disadvantaged when that disadvantage supports their narrative of victim hood and keeps them on the lucrative gravy train.
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‘ … living conditions for rural Aborigines.’
You mean begin the affordable housing projects in the outback, a splendid idea.
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They’ve had plenty of houses built for them. They destroy them. Talk to someone who has worked on their house maintenance, and you will hear some amazing stories.
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Yes, I was aware of that, however it would be a political hot potato to behold. The most disadvantaged citizens in Australia deserve a fresh start, I’ll wait to hear what Jacinta has to say.
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Companies based in Australia that promoted the YES campaign:
ANZ (Major shareholders are Black Rock and Vanguard Group)
CBA (Top shareholder group = Vanguard Group)
NAB (Top shareholder group = Vanguard Group)
Westpac (Top shareholder group = Vanguard Group)
Coles (Top shareholder group = Vanguard Group)
Woolworths (Top shareholder group = Vanguard Group and BlackRock)
Wesfarmers (Top shareholder group = Vanguard Group and BlackRock)
Telstra (Top shareholder group = BlackRock)
Qantas (Top shareholder group = Vanguard Group)
BHP (73% owned by American investors)
Newcrest Mining (Top shareholder group = Vanguard Group and BlackRock)
Rio Tinto (Top shareholder group = BlackRock and China)
Transurban (Top shareholder group = Vanguard Group)
Woodside Energy (Top shareholder group = Vanguard Group and BlackRock)
Atlassian (Top shareholder group = Vanguard Group)
Who owns Vanguard?
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I gather that the our King is a major shareholder in Vanguard. Makes sense really. Just another oligarch family
” The video above also identifies the Italian Orsini family, the American Bush family, the British Royal family, the du Pont family, the Morgans, Vanderbilts and Rockefellers, as Vanguard owners.”
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/blackrock-vanguard-own-big-pharma-media/
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Blackrock 13.82%.
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Then add the WEF members, Pfizer etc.
When their kind back it, you vote the opposite way and I did.
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I was talking to the NO people outside the booth after I voted, and 2 said their Employers (large and well known) who had ‘pushed’ the YES vote to all their employees. (I won’t name the employers just in case but they aren’t above.)
One had been at other booths and said that the YES spruikers had been numerous (so many that about half had been sent home or away, and that very few didn’t seem to be locals. I voted before lunchtime and the YES lot were already discouraged).
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Were the yes booth attendants paid?
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Considering all those companies and their stance,
it is an even greatest win for those who voted no . .
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How happy are Australian voters, to see major exporters being owned by overseas interests. Whose interests will be served? Check out the details about Blackrock. Several American states have prohibited their government pension funds from using the Blackrock fund handling their pension funds. I will not name the reasons, since I do not want to be sued, but they are good reasons for me not wanting to have anything to do withthem. I earnestly believe that Australia’s interests are not helped by their manipulating our economy. We do not need our industries to help overseas interests by employing local puppets.
If you are a shareholder, you are likely getting proxy forms in the mail. Fill them out, voting NO to every proposal, unless you think that the person you are voting for is a patriotic Australian, and make sure you post them back, or do it online. You may think there is nothing that you can do, but this gesture may help. Thanks “nb” for the research.
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I’m wondering if it’s been a trial run of the WEF’s use of media manipulation against our paper based election technique? And were the Teals an earlier one?
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Warren Mundine unleashes!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_av7coHxye4
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Saw that last night. I’ll give him a pass for having kept his cool for so long.
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I wouldnt get too complacent.
This was a foolish project to rewrite the Constitution using bullying, emotion and the valid constitutional/democratic means.
Having failed they will now move to a/ punish us and b/ find unconstitutional ways to rewrite the constitution.
What it means is the “disinformation and misinformation” legislation will have to be brought forward and have real teeth.
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The referendum showed just how pernicious the censorship legislation is. The governments and bureaucracies are immune to it. This Federal Government, during the referendum debate, showed it is totally willing to use all the misinformation it can muster to have its way with the nation. The global warming debate is built entirely on mis/disinformation and meaningful contrarian argument is effectively censored out at every level by most of the same classes backing in the referendum.
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Canberran here, this house voted NO! We’re not all woke idiots in this town, well, 40% of us aren’t…
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Generally those in a positions of power supported the voice, which is no surprise. Because when when you break down the voice to its core. The voice is about co-opting the voice of each individual First Nation persons, in particular the regional elders, and consolidating their powers in 14 or so people. This is like making a caste/patriarchal system amongst First Nation people, where some people with have extraordinary power to affect the life of other First Nations people for the better or for the worse. This simply a power grab from generally disadvantaged communities. Those in power generally have the least to loose when additional power is consolidated.
Many First Nations people have flourished for 60,000 years where each tribe had the final say on how they they are to live, for all matters of life, birth, and death. The local elders decides where the tribe would next migrate to hunt or forage without the intervention or control of any outside group or body. Thousands of first nation tribes had total independence from one another they need not to bow down to anyone else who may be hundreds of kms away who have a say on how they would live their lives. Many First Nation people have suffered enough already, and they do not need to suffer additional hardship and indignity of having a body created just to speak over them. This why such a significant percentage of First Nation people rejected the voice.
There are much better solutions to fix problems that affect First Nation communities. They need to be encouraged to be a productive part of the Australian community. We can do this by sun-setting some benefits we give First Nation people, particular those those discourages them from education and seeking employment. They should not be receiving any additional benefits not granted ordinary Australian, allowing them to opt out productive life. They will need to up-skill or relocate like any other Australian to improve their chances of employment, once they are set for life they can return back to their ancestral homelands.
Final thoughts.. We can now change the “Australia Day” holiday to “Fair Australia Day” holiday where we celebrate all Australians being equal, and having the same voice. FYI: They next “Fair Australia Day” holiday if implemented would be:
Monday, 14 October 2024
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Now that the NO’s have it, perhaps we can do away with the ‘First Nations’ epithet.
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Another standard overused ad hominem of the Left designed to suppress debate, now rendered meaningless.
Which is actually unfortunate for the times when genuine racism needs to be addressed.
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I was happy to refer to “Yes” supporters as racists, as they were never going to have their mind changed, and I do believe a lot of the prominent Yes people are indeed racist. They either hate white people, or they think Aboriginal people are one homogeneous group of like-minded people who cannot make decisions for themselves.
The average “yes” voter in the street is more than likely just a useful idiot, deluding themselves that they are doing something to “help” a section of society controlled by relatively few people, all of whom are mired in racism and self-pity, while profiting from victimhood.
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“The Voice truly was a tool of the Bankers, the Bureaucrat-class and Big Business, and Australians saw through it.
Across the Tasman, New Zealanders voted to throw out the Labor Government. It’s a good day!”
Thanks, Jo and it’ll be an even better day when we toss Blubbering Albo and Blackout Bowen” out on their necks too!
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That served the dual purpose of promoting the NO case, plus rendering invalid these speed limit (110kph ~68 mph) signs imposing an absurdly low speed limit in most cases which should be at least 130kph (~81mph).
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If I could give you 2 green thumbs I would David. Maybe 3. Nearly all major regional roads should be 110 in Vic, just like the other states. The present 110 could easily be lifted to 130.
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I had to pay a good sum for doing the right thing in Victoria. Drove at 110 km/h. Stopped at a rest stop to kip for 20 minutes. Drove back on to the highway after the 100 km/h sign and got caught going 110.
For public safety, my big hairy ….
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“^^^
What you said”
Ross – a work around for that I’ve seen elsewhere
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Having seen the after effects of cars hitting kangaroos at 110 kph, I would be reluctant to support 130.
And in the NT, there are bigger animals than kangaroos to consider when driving at night.
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So the question ozfred is whether speed limits should be written for daylight and good weather conditions and we assume drivers slow down when things are not good? If we set speed limits at nighttime conditions we might spend all day driving slower than we need too…
When I drove through the NT years ago and there was no speed limit, locals said police would charge people with reckless driving above 140 but everyone slowed down at night in case they hit a cow.
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So, Don’t hit them.
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Some NT roads, you physically can’t drive along them at night, there are that many cattle that settle down on them for the night.
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It’s a good day indeed, but not wanting to sound like a pessimist:
1) Nearly 40% of Australians (Leftists) still think race-based laws are OK. That’s not OK.
2) In NZ, are they genuine conservatives or just another Leftist Uniparty faction?
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Looking at Forrest – my balliwick – 60,220 No to 26,743 Yes. However the breakdown is more interesting. Busselton, which I figured for being a lefty place voted strongly No. Margaret River, which I figured for being more in the center, voted Yes – aarrgghh. Eagle Bay – a rich area – voted No – though that may be a case of local residents versus Perthites who didn’t vote there.
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Bunbury is massively No.
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You have Busselton and Margaret River the wrong way around
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I wish but not according to the AEC.
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No your interpretation of who’s leftie and more centre. Busselton (and Bunbury)is more working class to middle income and retirees, whereas MR is leftie
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“A week of silence”
Take two!
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Permanent would be better and would better reflect the patent disinterest most Australians showed to the bs arguments Albo tried to get away with. Doubt he even realises the insult he applied to most Australians by figuring they would never seek their own information but would be coerced to vote yes on emotion as put by himself, all the activists and elites. He believes most Australians didn’t have the drive to get educated on the topic and then come to independent decisions.
One unforseen success to come from this referendum is the word ‘racist’ has lost its venom at last. Charges of paternalism and racism scared all politicians from keeping proper surveillance over Aboriginal Affairs and its taxpayer funding. Senator Kerrin Liddle, the third member of the Aboriginal triumvirate that helped defeat the referendum, has promised to get stuck into asking all the appropriate questions about the Aboriginal organisations and funding that apply to running Aboriginal Affairs. That triumvirate has removed the inability to question matters on aboriginal affairs that has existed for almst 40years.
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Voting still being counted – Hopefully with Pre Poll my Teal Electorate of Mackellar will change to Yes
Currently YES 50.47 NO 49.53 with Postal Showing YES 35.34 NO 64.66 and Pre Polling not counted – hope changes to YES
https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/ReferendumDivisionResults-29581-132.htm
With latest update this morning Deakin VIC has changed to NO
https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/ReferendumUpdatedByDivision-29581.htm
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Australia has said NO loud and clear to the Voice, writes JACINTA NAMPIJINPA PRICE. Now we must turn last night’s result into a a great opportunity
Jacinta Nampijinpa Price shares message to Australia
One together, not two divided.
That’s the message you have sent loud and clear.
Australians have used their democratic voice to choose unity over division.
We have affirmed a nation where we tackle our problems together.
Side by side, as one. Not separated in our Constitution. Not divided by race.
This has been a long and bruising campaign and I heard over and over again from Australians that they just wanted this over and done with.
They’re sick of the division, they’re sick of feeling guilty, sick of being lectured to.
Finally, they’ve been able to have their say through our democratic process and they’ve said ‘no’.
No to those who want to treat Aboriginal people differently.
No to those who want to treat Aboriginal disadvantage as something that’s permanent.
No to those who profit from casting Indigenous Australians as victims, powerless, incapable of being helped without special treatment.
It’s important to understand, though, that the No to those things turns tonight’s result into a ‘yes’.
Not a vacuous ‘yes’ to silly ideas about ‘making history’.
But a ‘yes’ to practical solutions that bring us together as a united people.
A ‘yes’ to politicians from the Prime Minister on down – including me – doing our jobs and making sure the money being spent to help is actually going where it needs to go.
‘Yes’ to a new approach to tackling Indigenous disadvantage where we are about making sure kids go to school and adults go to work.
Where we focus on keeping women and children safe.
And where we understand that Aboriginal people are Australians – human beings – who want exactly the kinds of things we want for all Australians.
I understand many Australians will be disappointed with the result.
But this is an opportunity.
Because I mean it when I say it’s our chance to be united and practical.
And I’m looking forward to working with all Australians in a future where we tackle problems together, not divided any more but united as one together.
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Oops – I am in Warringah – Depressing – YES 59.09 NO 40.91
https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/ReferendumDivisionResults-29581-151.htm
Still will feel better if Mackeller part of Northern Beaches goes NO
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Not much better where I am in Curtin. It voted yes by the smallest of margins, but being the Chaney teal seat one doubts anyone will be surprised.
The inner city divide is real. So many of those living there around the country seem to show such a wide separation away from the ideas and ideals of the bulk of Australians. How come? Are they tertiary class ‘successes’, or consider themselves to be so by holding generally higher paid jobs? Why are they generally so woke when those around them are not? Has taking on every woke idea that they have come across during their younger years made them so ‘successful’ in the eyes of the tertiary education system that they think they are simply just too clever for the rest of us and they should be able to tell us how we must live? The epitome of virtue signalling! Many seem to have properties around holiday areas or farms, so they must know something of how Australians think, but they appear impervious to questioning their own wokeness. Why are they so prone to falling for the emotional claptrap that surrounds so many decisions made by government these days? Or in fact is that their own ploy to climbing the class pole of society?
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Why did the Voice referendum fail?
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I’m embarrassed to say that my Federal seat of McNamara voted Yes 65.15% No 34.85%.
The seat comprises of an extraordinary gerrymander of traditional conservative voting people in StKilda East, Elwood and Caulfield with a strange extension up the bay with no social or geographic logical connection to include super wealthy champagne socialists in Albert Park, Port Melbourne and picking up welfare housing in South Melbourne.
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Well it’s amongst the most interesting thing is the traditional Liberal wealthy seats were the strongest Yes votes. The Teal phenomena. It’s a massive shift in the political demographic.
The liberals should embrace this change and realise they can be the party of the people. Labor has abandoned their base, and the Liberal base has abandoned them. If I was the Libs, I’d be making energy the big issue. You would see a similar result to this referendum.
Rusted on Labor voters would abandon Labor like they did here. Climate Change/energy and/or immigration. They would roll in another 60/40 result. The political class are out of step with the people on both of these issues.
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Agreed. Dutton should be rubbing his hands with glee. 120 electorates voted against Labor and the Greens. That’s the stuff election landslides are made of.
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Dutton will go nowhere while the party is infested with Leftists.
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True,
That is why the Liberal base is abandoning the Liberal Party.
UAP has the $300m Senator Ralph Babbit, who is doing a fantastic job!
Ralph got about 4% of the primary vote. There were just enough votes from PHON, Lib Dems and others to get him to to about 8%, despite a lack of discipline by some Lib Dem voters who put the Liberals second. With 8% Babbit was just in front of the 3rd Liberal which got him to the required 15%.
QLD has 2 PHON senators. If we could get another conservative Senator in each of the other states it could start to make a difference.
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I believe this referendum result has nothing to do with politics. That’s my interpretation from the distribution of how people voted.
Yes, Dutton gave himself a lot of time to come to his decision, but by the time he did many people had already made up their own minds. If anything moved them it was the ex High Court Justices with the sharp warning that only the High Court would determine the boundaries of the eventual legislation should the yes win. That argument was early, decisive! Having the indigenous Mundine, Price and Liddle who had lead the life of the remote communities, and could say a large number of aboriginal people themselves were against the referendum, destroyed the government-activist argument.
The politics to take from the referendum is to never forget how devious this government and Albo, in attempting to hide the potential governance disasters that lay behind a successful yes vote, are. The comfort to come from the campaign is taken from the lack of success of Leeser and others who considered their own ideas so superior to those three indigenous people that lead the no campaign and who simply had to be heard.imo
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That’s good perspective DOC. My own impressions were shaped by the “leaders” of the Aboriginal side of things. I don’t watch TV but skim through news headlines on the net and after prompting by Peter C occasionally buy a Spectator mag. That led me to get the occasional Quadrant mag. Heard Jacinta Price speaking at a conference a few years ago and she was so sensible. Her mother, Bess, likewise.
The images of the ” proponents” were another thing and brought images of Wvlodomir Zelenski to mind. Albo adopted the Ukrainian T shirt idea and the strident Lindah, Noel and MarCia simply pushed more people to question what was going on.
Possibly the conclusion that most people made was that this was just another power grab by Elites who had little interest in the real tragedy that plainly rages on in Australian society.
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Yes indeed. The most effective part of the No campaign were the Yes campaigns primary speakers. The have no idea how tone deaf, clueless, snarky and inconsistent they appear.
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“If I was the Libs, I’d be making energy the big issue. You would see a similar result to this referendum.”. Spot on. They have started testing the water with talk of nuclear energy, but they need to grow a proper spine and speak out against Net Zero, otherwise they are still just Labor Lite.
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It’s only talk, they started us down this path, did nothing for a decade to change this train wreck, but now they mouth the words.
Nothing has changed, same dogs, same post.
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That changing of 110 speed limit to NO was quite popular in Victoria as well. But only on the major regional highways with that upper limit. So, Western, Calder and Hume Highways. Possibly also Princes Hwy ( Gippsland ) but I didn’t drive that way. Just a bit of black insulating tape and job done.
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we bought some tape to do some around here, problem was the ones you could access safely were all too high to get to.
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The Yes campaign failed to realise how entrenched the knowledge of spending on aboriginals is amongst Australian people. This has been a thing for years and years. Everyone knows it. This is the core reason this referendum failed. They tried to pretend aboriginals have been ignored, when the opposite is true. Didn’t work.
But the very concept of The Voice is a result of the university class. When you attend university, your days are spent doing group assignments, where imagination and skill is so low it ultimately involves regurgitating a cliche narrative to an imaginary problem. This is exactly where this Voice concept came from. They take their university experience and extend that into real paid jobs and produce these crappy projects.
I’m surprised The Voice proposal wasn’t presented on a large cardboard with sections pasted on with Clag glue from the various group participants. (showing my age, they probably use computer projection now).
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Death by PowerPoint has been a cliche for ages.
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The yes vote just goes to show how out of touch with the rest of Australia, the lefty public serpents and teals tribes and inner city Melbournites are.
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Now could we have referendums on things that really matter? A referendum on energy policy would be a great start. Then immigration and then maybe pandemic response policies. No need to use the whole population for these referendums. Why not poll a significant number for each policy eg 10 % of registered voters. Use postal voting and have polling booths in major centres. Perhaps also on-line voting with appropriate security. The Swiss have referendums on their major political decisions. It’s one way of keeping those bastards ( governments ) honest.
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You can also create a referendum from the bottom up in Switzerland, so if there is a public groundswell then the government can be made to take notice
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This is a good laugh. Dangerous Dan Reviews, Top 10 Reasons to Vote NO. Only in Australia do you get humour like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg0zFRVVkGA
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The $365 million would have been better spent finding where all the billions have gone, and rooting out all the Noel From Noosa Pearsons of the indigenous landscape, then we might move forward on closing the gap.
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You would think 365 mill could have built and staffed a pretty decent indigenous support facility in Alice Springs
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Which of the over-3500 support organisations should be chosen for this task?
It might be better to first reduce this ridiculous number to something more manageable and meaningful.
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I rarely watch ABC television but today I thought I would enjoy watching the Insiders mob eat a slice of humble pie.
I was more than disappointed. All I learnt was that the majority of Australians were misinformed by people like Jacinta Price. In fact I could only stomach the introduction and the first minute or so of the lesson on the disinformation that I was fed.
These ego stroking morons at their ABC are so far up themselves that there can never have a sense of humility. As my wife put it – they are never wrong – it is always someone else’s fault. To them, 60% of Australians have just demonstrated that they can be easily swayed by disinformation with no ability to form their own opinion based on their moral values and experiences.
The money spigot to their ABC needs to be turned off. They offer no value to Australian society.
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I also watched the Insiders and I’m not sure if you picked up on the next lefty agenda, but they mentioned that the misinformation needs to be addressed and will be addressed. This fight is only just starting to ramp up and whilst the people have won round one, round two gets dirty when we lose our own voice, courtesy of their new ministry of truth. My guess is we don’t have too much time left before we’ll need to move sites such as this to overseas data centres and comment using alias names via overseas proxy servers.
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Sky News Australia breaks down rejection of Voice to Parliament and my kookaburras are absolutely raucous!
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But! But! ‘Experts’ say that Australian Aborigines have been here for 60,000 years (and they can prove it, of course!). And, everyone knows that they had a common language, and not at least 300 different ones that they used to welcome each other to their country. And also, unlike the ignorant Jacinta & Warren, that they were so kind to their fellow Aborigines. This makes it so incomprehensible that so many voted ‘No’ when the inner-city elites and Canberra bureaucrats favoured the progressive ‘Voice’.
To quote Sancta Dr Greta: “How dare you!”
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Yep, how about they begin their truth telling with;
1. We were not a nation or nations, we were nomadic tribes
2. We had no concept of land ownership or sovereignty
3. Our life expectancy is far longer since the arrival of white Australians
4. Most indigenous children removed from families were removed for their own well- being (and most of these have a higher standard of living than those who were not removed)
5. Most indigenous Australians take advantage of the benefits provided as a result of British settlement and benefit from this.
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Oh dear! I see that I’ve earned a ‘thumb down’! Could it that my satirical comment has been misinterpreted? Because I really would like to see someone as intelligent as Jacinta as our future Prime Minister!
Unfortunately, there are many well-intentioned but misinformed people, mostly living in inner-city suburbia, who have absolutely no idea about traditional Aboriginal tribal culture. So, apart from checking two links embedded in my comment, perhaps a very good book to read would be “The Red Chief” by Ion Idriess about the tribal life of the Gunnedah tribe. It describes the lifestyle of the Aborigines very well …
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I see that Teal Party (under most selfless M.Turnbull & most clever J. Leeser) will end Australian 2-Party Rule and form next Government.
Labor Party will formally unite with Greens as a junior but cherished partner.
Liberal Party will still exist.
Sort of….
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Please consider United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples -UNDRIP – signed by Rudd Labor, application to join Indigenous Activists.
Also the history of Australian Communist Party backing the student activists from 1960s, and them later importing US Black Panther Movement political tactics.
Uluru Statement was not approved by a majority of Indigenous Australians, very few of the 300-plus remaining mobs or tribes were asked for their consent, as UNDRIP requires and Uluru Statement acknowledged. No Constitutional Convention was held, as there was for the Howard years republic referendum before it was legislated to proceed.
Voice+Treaty+Truth (Makarratta) was always a trap. States can legislate for treaties but treaties would not be legally significant, no international law basis for example. So the activists were anxious to fool voters with misleading deceptive marketing, recognition for example, be polite, right thing to do, etc. Because once locked into the Commonwealth Constitution the High Court would ultimately determine its powers. One treaty for all purposes, reparations and compensation and other radial changes, sovereignty for example.
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It would be interesting to see the distribution of those tribes, know more detail about how they work now and in the past, and apply the names of the activists to the locations and tribal groups to which they belong. I have seen such a chart of tribal distribution but heard one chap describe himself as coming from a smaller tribe than another, and the other held sway due to that size differential. As an aside, I was in a small, remote mining town in WA for a year in the ’60s and had Aboriginals living in the same town. There was a white bloke who went through the induction rituals to join the local tribe. He would be interesting to talk to now, but at the time was simply considered and oddity.
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Having said yesterday that I had fears for AEC honesty, now I feel a bit tinfoil hattish. Happy but a bit mad. The electorate I am part of (Mayo) voted overwhelmingly No.
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I still have some doubts. Victoria seems to be the outlier to the other states, but only by a little and they did reelect Andrews. A few percent fudge in the right electorate is all that is needed. I suspect it because everybody seems to hate Andrews.
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Back in 2013 I was at a birthday gathering in Kensington (Melbourne electorate) chatting to a woman who was convinced the federal election had been rigged because she had never met a Liberal voter and everybody hates Tony Abbott, not realising she was talking to one and her hosts were also Abbott supporters.
In those inner city seats you can’t let anyone know you are not a Greens/Labor voter or you will be vilifed and shunned. My friend was always worried that if the mothers at school found out she would have to take her kids out of school.
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$360 M for all those tears?
I’d like to say that it was money well spent but there is probably a mother with three kids who shifted to Alice for medical treatment who still needs a home.
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This is a disgrace in a democracy. But it shows how little notice we should take of a lowered aboriginal flag in future. It’ll probably just mean someone lost an argument. Or someone’s feelings were hurt.
Inner West mayor, Darcy Byrne, said:
“This is a profoundly sad day for the nation and we respect the request of the Indigenous leaders to fly their flags at half-mast for a week of reflection and grieving.”
Sorry Darcy, 60% of the nation is overjoyed!
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Why do we even have an Aboriginal flag which until recently was a privately owned copyright symbol with no more relevance to supposed nationhood than a McDonald’s flag?
Australia is meant to be one nation.
Aborigines were never a nation, just 500 endlessly warring tribes. It was no paradise before British settlement.
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How many Aboriginals and Torres Strait Islanders do you think live in Leichhardt?
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Tel, I’ve noticed that there are many who acknowledge that British treatment of the indigenous peoples was barbaric but they make the mistake of feeling guilty about it themselves. I am a British immigrant and I feel no sense of guilt for what I did not do to anyone here, however, I recognise that to-day I should respect my fellow man and take sensible steps to help others lift themselves out of poverty in our wealthy nation.
IMO the clever ploy has been to co-opt mistaken personal guilt for power/control purposes and many of those emotionally susceptible types live in wealthy inner city suburbs such as Leichhardt or “fairy heaven Canberra”.
My preferred option is mentioned at comment #54.
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The etymology of “barbarian” (from Britannica):
I think it is reasonable to consider the contradictions of the authority assumed by colonial administrations over the lives of non-colonial Australians when English Law recognised the validity of Native Law and Native Title at the time.
It is not reasonable to believe there is anything we can do in the present to cure the absurdities of the past.
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” …. while a lot of others found out that that calling people “racist” doesn’t persuade them. ”
The point here is that the most strident NO voting electorates are the strongest Labor “heartland” electorates (not the “progressive” Labor ones) This would suggest that Labor voters are the most “racist”. Now that is a route the Labor Party just cannot afford to go down. They simply cannot afford to link NO voters with “racism”
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Another win for NO voters.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/voice-no-voters-celebrate-marcia-langtons-vow-never-to-perform-a-welcome-to-country-ceremony-again/ar-AA1idEdM
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Is Qantas going to immediately (or at all) remove the big YES paint scheme from their planes?
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Imagine how Optus must feel.
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They might have gained more trade with a “No” slogan and donating a dollar of every ticket to a good cause.
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Perhaps we should take a page out of the Trumpism Logbook. We should bus those disadvantaged aboriginals into the ‘teal’ seats that voted for aboriginal supremacy and let the oh-so-virtuous bleeding hearts take care of them. All the infrastructure is in place to make those poor souls’ lives better – schools, hospitals, emergency services, coffee shops adorned with murals of social justice saints like Che Guavara and Banksy … Sounds like a great solution to me.
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Talking of Che Guavara …
He once said, “”There are truths so evident, so much a part of people’s knowledge, that it is now useless to discuss them.”
Sounds very much like the ‘Shut Up’ tactic beloved of the AGW mob. It’s almost like Marxism is what really drives the climate cult. A weird coincidence?
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I once got a 30 day ban on Farcebook for posting critical true comments about Che Guevara.
He is a hero of the Left and he frequently adorns their t-shirts but they have no clue what a psychopathic monster he was, or maybe they do….
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I am permanently banned from ChatGTP for asking it to write a 1000 word positive analysis of the Trump Presidency.
The response was:
“I have no information on that subject”
“You have been blocked for contravening user guidlines”
“If you believe this is a mistake please contact us”
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There’s plenty in Alice Springs who, if they were bussed to the Northern Beaches, would make life bearable for the rest of the Alice.
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Promote that as ” a holiday to Bondi”?
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It may not happen under this government – but the political crescendo in respect to indigenous disadvantage may at least focus attention on the need to redress the problems of isolated communities that depend entirely on welfare to survive. “Return to country” has meant generational poor health outcomes, and no opportunities for youth to choose alternate futures. Education that is consistent and employment opportunities that are meaningful must be the purpose of future government policies.
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No Voice, no treaty, woo hoo.
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This piece by Gary North called Why the US First Imposed Socialism might be relevant, at
https://www.garynorth.com/public/22807.cfm
What is the longest-running socialist experiment? What has its success been?
If someone asked you to defend the idea that socialism has failed, what would you offer as your example?
Where did modern socialism begin?
In America.
That’s right: in the land of the free and the home of the braves. On Indian reservations.
They were invented to control adult warriors. They had as a goal to keep the native population in poverty and impotent.
Did the system work? You bet it did.
Has the experiment been a failure? On the contrary, it has been a success.
When was the last time you heard of a successful Indian uprising?
Are the people poor? The poorest in America.
Are they on the dole? Of course.
Last year, the U. S. Department of Agriculture allocated $21 million to provide subsidized electricity to residents on the reservations whose homes are the most distant from jobs and opportunities. You can read about this here. This will keep them poor. Tribal power means tribal impotence.
The tribes are dependent. They will stay dependent. That was what the program was designed to achieve.
For some reason, textbooks do not offer a page or two on the corruption, the bureaucratization, and the multi-generation poverty created by tribal-run socialism. Here we have a series of government-run social laboratories. How successful have they been? Where are reservations that have systematically brought people out of poverty?
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That’s an excellent piece Anton thank you.
I lived on a closed community in NT for a while.
Exactly the same!
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One thing, here in the US, many tribes these days have Gambling Casino concessions and pull in tons of $.
( I have no idea of the process by which the mafia conceded gambling to the indigenous, but it happened. In the eastern states without much indigenous, gambling is now a state revenue source, and it is all for the children.)
The other thing is the Leftist myth of wealth.
Being born in the former Confederacy, the great swaths of poor subsistence level poverty non-BIPOC populations is utterly ignored by the mainstream North Eastern Yankee culture.
(But, not by tornados.)
The poverty in Appalachia, poor Southern states, is not much different that that on Reservations (that haven’t yet gotten casinos).
You know, like Jed Clampett’s first house.
So much of modern politics is myth pretense.
It doesn’t rain anymore it’s an ‘atmospheric river’.
No population ever ‘colonized’ another until the Europeans invented it.
Slavery was invented in the US Confederacy.
China is a developing nation.
The weather since 1850 is the worst ever.
Carbon is bad.
Indigenous lived in Utopian Harmony with nature and each other until until colonized.
Trans men must be screened for cervical cancer.
Taylor Swift is rich and famous because she is such a talented musician and young feminist hate Barbie.
The species can no longer survive without a continuous regime of vaccines.
Bidenomics is working.
The greatest threat to America is MAGA voters, not the multiple thousands of military age males pouring unchecked across the southern border.
Vote NO.
Vote YES.
On what?
Details to follow.
As I recall Obama’s successful campaign slogan was “Change”.
And now most high school graduates can’t calculate it.
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Dang … correction …
Trans men I guess should be screened for cervical c.
Trans women, uh, probably not.
I don’t have the stomach to stay up on the details of surgical transformation.
Who can keep this shite straight anymore?
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🙂
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No population ever ‘colonized’ another until the Europeans invented it.
The idea that this is a new debate is absurd. The two streams of Western culture – institutional Christianity and ancient Greece – have disputed about this for 1600 years. Ancient Greece is pro-classical culture, whle the experience of the Jews who sought autonomy from Rome can be read in parts of the New Testament. So ask modern anti-colonialists whether they think the Roman Empire was worthwhile, and watch them waffle.
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totally out of touch.
the australian district of columbia
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Why do you think the public servants of the ACT were so in favour of a group of Public Service sponsored aboriginal representatives having a voice to Parliament- a voice tuned and amplified by an army of public servants?
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Businesses backing of proposals could be ‘dangerous’ for reputation
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A good result. Important that it wasn’t 55% No or less. 60% is quite significant. Important that every state said No too.
However, my reaction is really one of a sigh of relief rather than any real joy. The survey polling suggested the result would be as it is, but they can be wrong.
To those who voted Yes. Don’t despair. The referendum proposal wasn’t rejected through racism. Quite the opposite. You might find that hard to believe or understand at this moment. But it is true. It also doesn’t consign underprivileged Aboriginals to their current situation.
Hopefully this has opened the door to the proper conversations and actions that need to be had, and the media who ignore the real problems in communities through fear of giving Aboriginals a bad name can devote more time to holding Govt programs to account and Aboriginal leaders to account, rather than spending the time painting any critic as a racist.
If the amount of energy that has been spent in preparing the Uluru Statement, the referendum council reports, and the referendum itself had been devoted to trying to solve the issues in communities then we’d be years ahead of where we are now. Even if the referendum had passed there would be years delayed in establishing the legislation and structures required for the Voice and still no action on the actual issues would have occurred. (Not that advisory groups have worked particularly well in the past when the true causes are denied) Our PM can cry and the Yes leaders can mourn, but they’ve concentrated of their own agendas rather than the needs of communities for too long. The PM’s tears are over a grand legacy he coveted and the Yes leaders mourn their trojan horse being stopped at the gates to the constitution.
Thank you to all who voted No, or financially supported the No campaign, or donated their time to assist the campaign.
The agenda that was behind that trojan horse is still there. I can only assume it’s a trojan horse because I can’t believe the legal minds that helped formulate the wording of the proposed constitution amendment could be that incompetent. If it wasn’t incompetence then it had to be deliberate to leave our functions of government exposed to potential activist interference. They’ll go back to the drawing board and try to find another way to weaken government. Perhaps next time they’ll have the legal means to block information they don’t like under the classification of “misinformation”, and have the eager assistance of big tech.
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🙂 🙂
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Based on the UK Brexit debacle and the Irish 2008 referendum.
Australians need to be aware that TPTB hate referendums because the people never seem to understand how they should be voting. It then becomes essential for the TPTB to surreptiously undermine the results and achieve the desired outcome in other ways.
Watch your backs.
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New Zealand didn’t have a Labor government, it was a Labour government.
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Thanks to the Nova/Evans Outfit for the coverage. I seem ever more tied to work but sometimes check in here and appreciate the articles and banter. As a bit of a loner type I still appreciate knowing that I’m not alone in my thoughts so thank-you all.
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The ALP has been anti-monarchy/British from the start, so they chose to use the American spelling to distance themselves from the UK union movement. The irony is that by the 1960’s they had become anti-American as well, basically the ALP hates everyone who is not ALP.
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My idea of helping those who struggle is to facilitate them to help themselves. My limited ability to do so determines my actions.
My suggestion to myself is this:
Build a school-house, medical post or community room with Starlink access, in a remote community.
I have a ute and tools and excavator to do most aspects of construction including PV electrical and plumbing.
A retired architect/mud-brick builder friend has all the gear for rammed-earth construction and is still actively working on his own projects.
Another former building partner teaches the carpentry course at TAFE and is interested in arranging distance education.
My wife is pretty good in the catering dept and would be the team medic as she was an A&E nurse.
I have various younger colleagues (with families, mortgages etc) who could be convinced to contribute a week if their costs were covered.
The NSW Fire mob (RFS) have buoy-wall reservoirs which make a good on-site water tank/swimming pool.
The general plan is to seek Govt funding for materials and apprentice young locals one-on-one with us to build a project. We envisage working 07:00 to 12:00 each day and then swim and interact with the community and learn about what they have troubles with.
You may have some ideas of your own to add in.
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Lets start again.
where does our $32 BILLION GO, make sure the funds get to the right people not to build new advisory bodies and money laundering groups.
remove non australian flags.
get education back on track ,no more false history .
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As Jacinta Price has publicly said, now is the time to start afresh but I’m quite happy for Aboriginal peoples to fly flags. They are merely symbols of communication. If I was more arty I’d make a flag about “Land Rights for Gay Whales” just to stir folk up a bit and make them think outside their inner grey morass of normality.
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Paul Murray Live
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Aloha! Not really any US coverage on this NO vote on mainstream media here. Australia instead is being portrayed as Auschwitz At The Sydney Opera House! What I notice is there are never any lgbtq rainbow flags at these pro-hamas rallies. Why is that?
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Aboriginals and Aussies Did Not Support ‘The Voice’
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Sussan Ley takes aim at Albanese in fiery return to Question Time
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‘Enough of the talkfest’: Jacqui Lambie fumes over lack of action in Indigenous communities
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