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    The “InVoice” Referendum has been defeated. The People have spoken.

    The ABC Projects
    National – 74.3% counted

    YES – 39.8%, and 5.17M votes

    NO – 60.2%, and 7.83M votes

    Referendum defeated

    The Voice to Parliament referendum has been defeated. The ABC projects a majority NO vote nationally and in all six states plus the NT.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-14/live-updates-voice-to-parliament-referendum-latest-news/102969568

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      Greg in NZ

      Congratulations Australia, and New Zealand as well, the people have spoken. Time for a special coffee on this sunny Sunday morning.

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        Sambar

        Bundy Bear seen staggering through a most glorious Saturday evening, watching the New Zealand election result followed by Australia having a common sense moment.
        Head ache level celebrations.

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      Earl

      The best (unintended) result of all of this is the “follow the money” public opinion swell that should result in more accountability and better review/management of the numerous funnels that for too long have only delivered a trickle to the areas in need.

      The second (even more unintended) result is best captioned by a quote by Alexandre Auguste Ledru-Rollin:

      “There go my people. I must find out where they are going so I can lead them”

      ACT may be the home of a politician’s “people” but it is not the home of the real peoples of Australia.

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      David of Cooyal in Oz

      Here’s the link to the National Tally room. Results updated “every 300 seconds”:

      https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/ReferendumNationalResults-29581.htm

      Double majority for NO. ACT the only mob to go YES. Symptomatic of something?

      Cheers
      Dave B
      PS I saw the results last night , but had to check this morning to see if they’d survived the night.

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        another ian

        Did you worry that the counting might suddenly stop at midnight for “technical reasons”?

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          David Maddison

          Victoriastan is an interesting case.

          All through the evening it was considered “too close to call” but it ended up with about 45.5% yes and 54.5% NO.

          A most unexpected result, all the more so because it ended up favouring the rational-thinking side.

          Maybe the Leftist media commentators (ABC, SBS and NITV) couldn’t bring themselves to update NO votes as they came in.

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          David of Cooyal in Oz

          I did wonder, but overall I thought any interference would have to be different as we’re still on the paper based system. So I hoped our system was sufficiently robust. Our compulsory enrolment and voting system gives some (quite strong?) accounting capability which limits the ability to add in extras.
          Needed to check anyway.
          Cheers
          Dave B

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      David Maddison

      Good news.

      But there are still 39.8% of Australians that think race-based laws are acceptable.

      With the right propaganda campaign that number could be pushed over 50%.

      That’s disturbing and dangerous.

      In any case, it’s still an impressive result given the huge Leftist bias of the media, vacuous “celebritities”, big virtue-signaling corporations, NO campaigners being scared to display NO posters on their homes or businesses due to being afraid of Leftist violence or boycotts etc..

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        Geoffrey Williams

        Yes David, you are right to sound a warning.
        The green left will continue with their agenda in all walks of life.
        Albanese still thinks he is the right person to lead Australia.
        Surely he must resign now !!

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        Gerry

        I think a big quota of the YES vote was people who vote Labor no matter what…..they wouldn’t have analysed the referendum question and thought it through.
        And does anyone look at and analyse the political slant of the foreign language press here in Oz. My guess is they control a far bit of the migrant vote. Dan made good use of them.

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      Dave of Gold Coast, Qld.

      Yes, it was a good result but now a lot of us would like some truthful answers from our PM for a change. For example where and and how is the almost 50 billion dollars spent on our aboriginal folk? How and where is it being designated? When I read of the situation in Alice Springs for example. Why are real situations like this still happening now? I suspect a huge review of duplicated services need a fast tracked review. Also why is Labor bringing so many people into this country at time of hardship, housing crisis and here in Qld a huge lack of infrastructure?

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        Earl

        The silent majority have woken up and with great people like Jacinta and Warren the pendulum is being forced back. Still more of us need to help carry the flame publicly and make the government(s) accountable.

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          Coochin Kid

          Correct Earl, Now while the subject is still hot , we should all contact our federal member by post and demand an audit of what has worked and what hasn’t, in the spending of forty billion dollars a year without a positive result. Through an Audit we could find out where every single dollar settled, and in whose pocket. We could sort this out for one and all.

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    tonyb

    Australia says no. Your Brexit moment. What’s the betting the question will be asked again, perhaps in a different form but with the same intended end result?

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      Forrest Gardener

      The powers that be will almost certainly realise that constitutional change is not the way to subjugate the nation.

      My crystal ball says that the lawfare brigade will therefore simply ignore the constitution and do what they want anyway.

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      Graeme No.3

      I think that some Federal Ministers might stop and think that ‘their’ electorates in NSW voted heavily against The Voice, Linda Burney among them.

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        Yarpos

        Thats very good. You used Linda Burney and “stop and think” in one sentence. You dont see that very often.

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    tonyb

    News here of various pro Palestinan marches around the UK.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12630283/Hamas-arrested-Met-Police-pro-Palestinian-protesters-London-officers.html

    We have a very small Arab population here so it was interesting to view the demonstrators and see that the vast majority were white.

    A Cambridge professor made the pertinent observation (and got in trouble for it) “if you import the Arab state you will get the Arab state.”

    In that respect France has a very substantial Arab derived population from their colonies. Those words can be said about almost any group of people emanating from the same place as they will dilute the indigenous population and through their desire to hang on to their customs, religion, enmities and culture, many will not attempt to integrate

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    tonyb

    I can offer counseling for the many on here that will be devastated by the defeat of the New Zealand govt. Where has Arden and Sturgeon and the former Finnish Prime minister all gone to?

    https://dailysceptic.org/2023/10/14/jacinda-ardens-labour-party-thrown-out-of-office-in-new-zealand-election/

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      DD

      Will New Zealanders get a genuine conservative government or one that is too scared to govern, like most ‘conservative’ governments throughout the West?

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        David Maddison

        Indeed.

        Are they genuine conservatives or are they just the other faction of the Uniparty like our “Liberals” (pretend conservatives) here and similarly for other supposed conservatives in other Western countries?

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          Graham Richards

          Maybe, just maybe, Peter Dutton will see the light & realise that if he grabs the conservative policies by the throat & runs with them the conservative base will follow. Problem is the Party Room which is packed to the rafters with woke LINOS
          & WEF acolytes & climate change nutters.

          The one big remaining problem is the MSM. They’ve also taken a beating by the Voice rejection but all that they’ll do is come back twice as hard with their normal misinformation, lies & distortion. The conservative base needs to devise some retribution for them. Giving the ABC a good shake & sanitising against socialist wokeism would be a good start. If the shake up won’t work shut it down or flog it off!

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    tonyb

    I first posted this a few days ago

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2023/10/13/michael-kelly-the-green-energy-net-zero-plan-will-require-a-command-economy/

    In the Article the esteemed Prof Kelly details all the vast amounts of material needed to make and erect such things as wind turbines.

    We have a few greens posting on here and my genuine 3 questions to them are;

    “Where on earth will we get the materials from to create the energy sources needed to power a 24/7 society?”

    A secondary one is “Do you realise how much it will cost? and the third;

    “How will the serious intermittency problems be overcome?”

    Try as I might I can never get anyone to properly address these issues.

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      Honk R Smith

      These things matter to you, matters not to them.
      The society you speak of, they intend to end.

      Just noticed you got a red thumb for asking a question.
      There you have it.
      No attempt at an answer.

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      MrGrimNasty

      You have EVs, but many people keep a second proper ICE car for urgent longer journeys.

      You have windmills and solar PV, with a proper fossil fuel power station in reserve.

      Now we have heat pumps paired with a gas boiler.

      https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/hybrid-systems

      What sort of madness is it when you ‘replace’ something at ludicrous expense, but need the original thing too?

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        another ian

        “What sort of madness is it when you ‘replace’ something at ludicrous expense, but need the original thing too?”

        That is why

        (Real LCOE Renewables) = (LCOE Renewables) + (LCOE Fossil Fuel Back-up) +(LCOE Nuclear Back-up)

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        James Murphy

        Since we have been told how cheap “renewables” are, I have wondered how anyone could think it possible that electricity would get cheaper as a result of adding more infrastructure and more hardware, with more layers of technology, all on top of existing systems.

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      Instead of giving me a red thumb why not just answer any one of my three reasonable questions.?

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        David Maddison

        This site believes in free speech so the best the Leftists can do here is give you a red thumb with no attempt at refutation (because they can’t refute a logical argument).

        On one of “their” sites, your comment would be deleted or never allowed to be posted in the first place.

        If your comment was made in person, they would likely violently attack you.

        Some, they intimidate into silence.

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        Honk R Smith

        Tonyb,
        I’ll do it.

        “Where on earth will we get the materials from to create the energy sources needed to power a 24/7 society?”
        From poor countries that seldom get visits from private jets.

        “Do you realise how much it will cost?
        No. Don’t care. We’re saving the planet. The well of the tax base is infinite, especially when our portfolios harvest the subsides.
        Other people’s money, the life blood of virtue.

        “How will the serious intermittency problems be overcome?”
        Not a problem. We’ll just install FF backup systems. Far enough away on the estate so the noise doesn’t bother.

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        Yarpos

        Its a badge of honour Tony.

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    David Maddison

    Leftist censorship, shadow banning and canceling continues:

    The YouTube channels of JP Sears are being shadow banned.

    Also for Tony Heller.

    Also Epoch Times had one of their YouTube channels deleted.

    Brett Weinstein is also being shadow banned and is increasingly putting his material on X.

    Numerous other conservative- or rational-thought-oriented YouTube members or channels are being shadow banned or deleted outright.

    It’s also probably related to the lead up to the US Election.

    Notice how conservative-oriented outlets like this blog don’t censor Leftists because conservatives and fellow rational thinkers believe in free speech, even from those with whom they disagree, but most of us here are or have been actively censored on Leftist outlets.

    And Leftists are not the least bit embarrassed by their actions, or indeed the frequent and increasing amounts of violence and vandalism of their comrades in pursuit of their censorship objectives. They are showing their true colours, just like their Communist and National Socialist predecessors.

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    Harves

    So the message from the left is that 60% of the population fell for a massive campaign of disinformation and the NO scare campaign was just too loud. Apparently those stupid Australians listened to Dutton, Jacinta Price. Warren Mundine and Kamahl instead of listening to Labor, the Greens, the AFL, Big banks, Qantas, the ABC, The Project, Barnsey, Magda, football players, pop songs, and any celebrity the YES campaign or media could drag out.
    This would be hilarious if it hadn’t cost $360 million.

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      Geoffrey Williams

      Listening to ABC news and other media outlets it’s clear that some of them just cannot accept the reality of what has just occurred.
      And our Prime Minister Albanese is completely out of touch with 60% of the Australian people.
      Listen to his ridiculous comments about being ‘proud etc’ The news is all about the 40% who are the downtrodden heroes and how they will fight back.
      The rest of us, 60% of the Nation are all missguided or racist . .

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      Lloydww

      I listened to our Prime Minister who gave no detail and who had apparently not read beyond the executive summary of the USFtH. All I heard from him were platitudes, motherhood statements and a dose of guilt tripping. His performance alone was an argument for No.

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    John Hultquist

    I came out of a store today and found a hybrid auto parked next to my pickup truck.
    What a fright! Anxiety exploded. The truck is my only vehicle. If the truck was destroyed, I would have to walk to the nearest auto lot and buy something just to get home.
    Needed is a group to advocate for the separation of parking spaces. A name and acronym are needed.
    Stand with me and be counted.

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    David Maddison

    Just imagine what the $365 million thrown away on promoting Australian Apartheid (The Voice) could be used for if it was used for something useful like paying down Australia’s massive Federal, State and Local Government debt of nearly $1.8 trillion.

    https://australiandebtclock.com.au/

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    another ian

    FWIW – “Read all about it”

    ““Refusing to fly has lost me my job as a climate researcher” ”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/10/14/refusing-to-fly-has-lost-me-my-job-as-a-climate-researcher/

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    David Maddison

    Are there any good video compilations of Leftist pro-Apartheid activists going into meltdown when they learned that the anti-Apartheid vote won?

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    David Maddison

    Reminder about the Lake Goldsmith Steam Rally.

    Vintage steam and ICE engines.

    Celebrate the internal and external combustion engine and the hydrocarbon fuels which powered them.

    https://www.lakegoldsmithsteamrally.org.au/

    November 4th and 5th 2023.

    It’s about 2 hrs drive from Melbournistan (Australia).

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      David Maddison

      Incidentally, it’s only a matter of time before Leftists try to get such rallies banned.

      They wouldn’t want people to know about the machines that powered the Industrial Revolution.

      That would be fully consistent with their Orwellian censorship policies.

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    Steve of Cornubia

    Like the push for a republic, this isn’t the end of the matter. Leftists do NOT give up even when the majority opposes them. They will try some other means to get what they want, perhaps including a repeat referendum a few years from now.

    But as I have said before, Albanese has set Australia up for years of racial tensions, upon which calls for another referendum or racist legislation will be built . Not content with importing thousands of people hostile to western culture and Australian traditions, he has now created a massive divide that will fuel anger, bitterness, mistrust and maybe violence. The increase we have seen in crime committed by young aboriginals will escalate, as will the racist rhetoric and goading from the likes of Lidia Thorpe.

    Australia will become the racist nation that the Left has always longed for it to be. THIS will be Albanese’s legacy.

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      Forrest Gardener

      I can’t see there being another attempt to change the constitution. More likely the powers that be simply do what they want and ignore it.

      That would follow the pattern in the USA where the government simply ignores court decisions and acts unlawfully.

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      Hasbeen

      Having been massively foiled & rejected in his attempt to use the poor bush Aboriginals to get into our constitution, surely any prime minister with any self respect would resign.

      What is the betting on Albo?

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      Coochin Kid

      Here in Queensland we have the annual advocacy for Daylight saving. We have said NO twice and yet the cafe latte set continue with their winge , abetted by TV news editors who have space in their show.

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    Uber

    The referendum result clearly exhibits the massive social divide between inner cities and the rest. We are long overdue for new state boundaries which excise our big cities from rural Australia. The current boundaries are pointless.

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      David Maddison

      I would like to see a breakdown of those inner city types who voted for Apartheid. I assume they are mostly wealthy Leftist types in senior public “service” roles or senior management in virtue signaling companies like Qantas or alternatively unemployed Leftist welfare recipients with way too much time on their hands and living in taxpayer-funded housing.

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        Forrest Gardener

        The majority of Canberrans voting yes speaks volumes although even there the result was less than 99% yes.

        Perhaps there is still a divine spark of reason.

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      KP

      “The current boundaries are pointless.”

      Yes! Put border checkpoints up the Great Divide! An East Coast State can have all the big-city people, a Farming State can have the green strip beside it, and the rest is the Mining State where nothing grows. Keep the Sydneysiders in Sydney!

      Maybe we can quickly re-draw the States according to how the votes went. Little city-states of Yes voters, the rest for the No voters. Remove GST and taxation is an internal State problem.

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    David Maddison

    Posted from a friend:

    Now that they lost, they will claim that everyone was stupid, ignorant and misinformed. Watch the narrative go hard on “misinformation”, which will be folllwed by more censorship measures in a desperate attempt to regain control of the information flow.

    Resist. Fanatically.

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      Forrest Gardener

      There are at least a couple of strategies.

      You can own the “stupid, ignorant and misinformed” label and add “and proud of it”. You can agree with them and then do the opposite.

      As long as it throws sand in their gears I’m happy to do what I can to subvert the loony vibe.

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    Richard C (NZ)

    Era Of ‘Unquestioned And Unchallenged’ Climate Change Claims Is Over

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/era-unquestioned-and-unchallenged-climate-change-claims-over

    Leading voices in the climate community are in an uproar as their warming hypothesis comes under fresh assault by new scientific papers.

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      Richard C (NZ)

      Study blows ‘greenhouse theory out of the water’

      https://www.wnd.com/2017/07/study-blows-greenhouse-theory-out-of-the-water/

      “New Insights on the Physical Nature of the Atmospheric Greenhouse Effect Deduced from an Empirical Planetary Temperature Model” – Nikolov and Zeller

      For the first time, Nikolov said, there is now empirical evidence from NASA data that the greenhouse effect of the atmosphere is not caused by the trapping of heat, but by the force of atmospheric pressure.

      The pressure is the weight of the atmosphere, he added.

      And the combination of gravity and the mass of the atmosphere explains why the Earth, for example, is warmer than the moon.

      “The moon receives about the same amount of heat from the sun as Earth, yet it is 90 degrees [Celsius] colder than the Earth, because it has no atmosphere,” Nikolov explained.

      “If correct, the implications of the discovery would be enormous, multiple scientists told WND.

      For one, it means the climate projections used to forecast warming doom and justify a wide range of policies are completely wrong.”

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        Kalm Keith

        True science has always known that P.V = n.R.T is operative from about 30 metres above ground level to way up in the atmosphere where it’s so cold that humans could not survive.

        Human activity is inconsequential in the thermal aspects of our Planet’s daily interaction with the Sun and we need to get busy to explore, identify and break open the deceit and real purpose of this AGW leach that’s controlling and crushing so much of our lives.

        Refer and Rendem!

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      Richard C (NZ)

      Willie Soon, from Zero Hedge above:

      “The high level of attention to this paper [Soon et al 2021] by people hungry for truth might be the real threats that Schmidt and Mann are worrying about,” Mr. Soon said, pointing to a detailed response to the attacks from critics published on CERES-Science.com, titled “The orchestrated disinformation campaign by RealClimate.org to falsely discredit and censor our work.”

      “In a highly unusual development for complex scientific studies, that paper has been downloaded more than 55,000 times since it was published.”

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      David Maddison

      There is a series of videos from “FrollY” from 2019 who did his PhD on adiabatic compression, not “greenhouse” heating of the atmosphere to explain the temperature on various planetary systems.

      https://youtu.be/4ZKI40d5YHs

      I found it hard to find the video just them via a Goolag or YouTube search as he seems to be getting shadow banned.

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    “A great nation like ours can and must do better for the First Australians,” the prime minister said.

    Well, Arrogant Albo, get off yer’ fat backside and do your job along with Linda “Gucci” Burney.

    Accountability is the way forward so get on with it and find out where all those many, many billions of Taxpayer funded Australian Dollars are going.

    Then you and the Feral Laybore Guv’ment can start to fix things.

    NOW.

    And that’s The Voice. Are you listening?

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      Yarpos

      A good start might be to get a rerun of the Productivity Commissions report on total expediture on indigenous affairs.

      The 40 billion figure often mentioned is many years old and will be much higher now. Add two additional questions. How much of this actually gets spent on real issues outside of capital cities rather than admin and overheads? and why?

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    “A great nation like ours can and must do better for the First Australians,” the prime minister said.

    Well, Arrogant Albo, get off yer’ fat backside and do your job along with Linda “Gucci” Burney.

    Accountability is the way forward so get on with it and find out where all those many, many billions of Taxpayer funded Australian Dollars are going.

    Then you and the Feral Laybore Guv’ment can start to fix things.

    NOW.

    And that’s The Voice. Are you listening?

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      Harves

      Well, Arrogant Albo, get off yer’ fat backside and do your job along with Linda “Gucci” Burney.

      Yep, what is the point of Burnley and her Indigenous Affairs department if it’s not to listen to and represent indigenous Australians.

      Same goes for the Govt funded National Indigenous Australians Agency. On their web page, this is what they claim to do:
      “ We lead and influence change across government to ensure Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples have a say in the decisions that affect them.”

      Sack them all.

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    3 hopes got up this weekend. Unfortunately probably the left will double down on the voice. I heard in NZ that Auckland and Wellington central electorates continued the pattern, by both going green. And the All Blacks turned up for work.

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    David Maddison

    Aborigines didn’t need to be racially segregated with “The Voice”.

    What was needed was some accountability for the billions of dollars already spent on hundreds of Aboriginal welfare programs.

    Most of it is evidently wasted or corruptly pocketed by Aboriginal “leaders”.

    Senator Jacinta Price has repeatedly sought accountability for how the money is spent but is refused at every attempt. (She discussed that at the last CPAC conference, see her talk on YouTube.)

    There needs to be a forensic audit of the money.

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      Steve of Cornubia

      Whilst I see no reason to believe aboriginal ‘leaders’ are less corrupt than the rest of us and agree a few are getting very wealthy off the back of taxpayers, I personally believe that the majority of funds supposedly spent on aboriginal programs never leaves the governments’ hands. The majority is spent on administering the programs, for which huge numbers of public servants and new departments are created, each with a highly-remunerated board and management team. Then there are the offices needed to house the staff, plus expense accounts to fly them around the country (seated comfortably in their business class seats).

      In this respect the indigenous affairs activities run by governments mimics the charity industry, which mostly exists the enrich the people working within it. Whether an indigenous aid program or a charity, I reckon very little of the money invested actually lands at the feet of those they are supposedly helping.

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        KP

        Absolutely! The card idea was brilliant, there’s nothing stopping Govt giving every needy welfare recipient a Govt debit card and the money goes straight into their bank account. They can pretend to be real people who have to work for a living and save up for things, while getting rid of all the middle men.

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    David Maddison

    I assume Scruton is referring to the fake self-identified “intellectuals” (sic) of the Left like you find on Their ABC, SBS or “The Project” or what passes for “universities” these days, not genuine scholars.

    “Intellectuals are naturally attracted by the idea of a planned society, in the belief that they will be in charge of it.”

    Roger Scruton, Fools, Frauds and Firebrands: Thinkers of the New Left

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    David Maddison

    “People will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think.” – Aldous Huxley.

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    David Maddison

    I wrote this in 2020.

    My letter to my parliamentary “representative”.

    Hi David,

    I am very concerned that politicians and public servants have outright lied in the hotel quarantine inquiry and are not being punished.

    Why should politicians and public servants be allowed to lie without punishment?

    Regards,

    Dr David Maddison

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    Kalm Keith

    Again, I apologise for being “immoderate”.

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    hoopie

    The YES crowd could get a bit of practice at forensic accountability by investigating and publishing their own financial books – reveal their donors, and expenditure on advertising, and payments to personnel.

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    John Connor II

    Pharma Nation: Americans will spend half their lives taking prescription drugs

    Recent estimates tell us that over 60 percent of U.S. adults take prescription drugs, and over 45 percent have taken a prescribed drug over the prior 30 days. Now, worrying new predictive research from Penn State reports young Americans born in 2019 can expect to spend a significant portion of their lives medicated.

    In fact, study authors estimate these young Americans will likely spend more years on prescription meds than being married or receiving an education!

    Led by Jessica Ho, associate professor of sociology and demography at Penn State, the research also points to some gender disparities. American males will be on prescription drugs for 48 percent of their lives. That percentage balloons to 60% for females.

    Researchers report most American men take prescription drugs by age 40, while most American women are taking prescription drugs by age 15. A newborn male born in 2019, on average, should expect to take meds for about 37 years, or 48 percent of their life. A newborn girl born in 2019, meanwhile, could expect to stay on meds for approximately 47.5 years, or 60 percent of her life.

    Regarding health care costs, prescription drug expenditures reached $335 billion in 2018. Out-of-pocket expenditures on prescription medications, meanwhile, made up 14 percent of drug spending, with prescription drug spending projected to hit $875 billion (15.4% of national health expenditures) by 2026.

    https://read.dukeupress.edu/demography/article/60/5/1549/382305/Life-Course-Patterns-of-Prescription-Drug-Use-in

    That’s before the Fakevax ™ does its job…

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      John Connor II

      DNA contaminants – an ‘accident’ too far?

      Kevin McKernan’s demonstration of high levels of DNA in the vaccine vials has now been replicated by six other laboratories globally. There are strict limits placed on the amount of DNA allowed because of the risk of this foreign DNA integrating into the human genome. Oddly the EMA limits the amount as a ratio with how much mRNA is present rather than giving an absolute amount. These higher levels were exceeded by 20-30 times.

      Cancer genomics expert, Dr. Phillip Buckhaults was one of the scientists to replicate the measurements and expressed huge concerns about how the DNA was in an optimal state for integration into the human genome. It was not circular, as in the original plasmid, but in linear lengths. Furthermore, each strand would have a similar chance of integration but the DNA present was hugely fragmented such that one strand might have broken down into 100 fragments increasing the risk of integration by 100 fold.

      This alone would be a reason to call out the competence of those responsible for making the products and every regulator globally. However, the story gets much worse. There are four other ways in which this DNA was optimised for nuclear integration.

      https://www.hartgroup.org/dna-contaminants/

      DNA integration and alteration is the real purpose, but what is the objective you ask?
      Who would have the technical expertise to orchestrate such a plan?

      /evolution is too slow.😉

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      Richard C (NZ)

      A New “Brave New World”

      https://www.zerohedge.com/political/new-brave-new-world

      For the past century, it’s been a mainstay of the science-fiction genre: the medicated society—a society in which the majority of the population is given some form of drug to alter their behaviour, ostensibly for the better.

      The dramatization and the fictional settings shouldn’t blind us to the fact that such possibilities are very real. Very real—and very close. Just how close has been revealed by new figures from Public Health Scotland, which show that more than a million men and women, close to a quarter of Scotland’s adult population, are now being prescribed anti-depressants, powerful drugs with wide-ranging effects on mood and physical health. This probably makes Scotland the nation with the highest rate of anti-depressant use in the world. In the United States, by contrast, around 15 percent of adults are on anti-depressants, which is still, by any metric, a lot.

      It’s not just anti-depressants that Scots are swallowing in record numbers. According to figures published by the Mail on Sunday, more than a third of Scottish adults are now being prescribed drugs from one of five broad classes associated with mental health issues. This includes a further 200,000 adults taking benzodiazepines, which are prescribed for anxiety and insomnia, and 190,000 who take gabapentinoids. Another 130,000 adults are given so-called z-drugs (such as zopiclone and zolpidem), and more than 800,000 are on opioid-based pain medication.

      “This is a textbook case of what the philosopher Ivan Illich called “iatrogenesis,” or “medically caused harm.” In his famous book “Medical Nemesis” (1975), Illich argued that the growing medicalization of society is having the paradoxical effect of making us less and less well. In particular, what medicalization does, according to Illich, is reduce our capacity to respond to our problems of health and well-being in suitable ways.”

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    Lance

    Ardern Aftermath – New Zealand Elects Conservative Prime Minister Christopher Luxon

    “Jacinda Ardern, a favorite of the World Economic Forum and leftists in the globalist movement, led her party to lose half of their Kiwi support. The Conservative Party in New Zealand, led by Christoper Luxon, have won the election.”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/10/14/ardern-aftermath-new-zealand-elects-conservative-prime-minister-christopher-luxon/

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    liberator

    So I thought banning those nasty CFC’s etc fixed the ozone hole:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12596861/Ozone-Hole-one-BIGGEST-record-Gap-Antarctica-three-times-size-Brazil-larger.html

    So what now? Were they wrong and these chemicals have nothing whatsoever to do with the formation and size of the hole?

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    John Connor II

    The US debt in one picture

    https://imgbox.com/IkdOz1Xb

    Wonder why things are going crazy and accelerating?
    Now you know.

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    Richard C (NZ)

    Zeke Hausfather is losing his mind:

    “Staggering. Unnerving. Mind-boggling. Absolutely gobsmackingly bananas” [Chart]
    https://dnyuz.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Im-a-Climate-Scientist-and-Septembers-Warmth-Freaked-Me-Out-750×375.png

    I Study Climate Change. The Data Is Telling Us Something New.
    https://dnyuz.com/2023/10/13/i-study-climate-change-the-data-is-telling-us-something-new/

    …while many experts have been cautious about acknowledging it, there is increasing evidence that global warming has accelerated over the past 15 years rather than continued at a gradual, steady pace. That acceleration means that the effects of climate change we are already seeing — extreme heat waves, wildfires, rainfall and sea level rise — will only grow more severe in the coming years.

    I don’t make this claim lightly. Among my colleagues in climate science, there are sharp divisions on this question, and some aren’t convinced it’s happening. Climate scientists generally focus on longer-term changes over decades rather than year-to-year variability, and some of my peers in the field have expressed concerns about overinterpreting short-term events like the extremes we’ve seen this year. In the past I doubted acceleration was happening, in part because of a long debate about whether global warming had paused from 1998 to 2012. In hindsight, that was clearly not the case. I’m worried that if we don’t pay attention today, we’ll miss what are increasingly clear signals.

    Apparently a wild outlier (see chart above) is a “clear signal”.

    Not noise – signal.

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      Richard C (NZ)

      It’s not worse than we thought:

      [Zeke] Does this acceleration mean that warming is happening faster than we thought or that it is too late to avoid the worst impacts? Not necessarily. Amazingly enough, this acceleration quite closely matches what climate models have [IPCC AR6 Chapter 4] projected for this period. In other words, scientists have long foreseen a possible acceleration of warming if our aerosol emissions declined while our greenhouse gas emissions did not. That’s what we’re now seeing. This may not make you feel much better about the future of warming but should at least make you feel better about our models and the power of science to prepare us for what’s to come.

      Psychosis complete. About psychosis:

      Psychosis is when you perceive reality differently from other people – seeing or hearing things that others can’t (hallucinations) or developing unusual beliefs (delusions). During a psychotic episode, your thoughts and behaviour may be very different from usual.

      In this case probably the climatosis strain.

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        Richard C (NZ)

        Zeke:

        Amazingly enough, this acceleration quite closely matches what climate models have projected for this period.

        So now, climate model projections actually model the noise (wild natural variation) in the system “quite closely”?

        This is news to me Zeke – thanks for the update. I will however be making my own assessment from a wider and deeper information pool.

        scientists have long foreseen a possible acceleration of warming

        Surely a sudden inflexion is not an “acceleration”, technically speaking?

        When did the definition change Zeke?

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          Richard C (NZ)

          Ok, so what else have you got Zeke? Oh yes, this:

          Are temperatures this summer hotter than scientists expected?
          Posted on July 27, 2023 by Zeke Hausfather
          https://berkeleyearth.org/are-temperatures-this-summer-hotter-than-scientists-expected/

          Figure
          CMIP6 models vs One observation datapoint – July 2023
          https://berkeleyearth.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/climate-brink-CMIP6-1024×542.webp

          Here we see that while July 2023 is above the multimodel mean, it [July 2023] is well within the range of expected temperatures across all the participating models. This is not surprising, as we would expect observations to be above the multimodel mean during an El Nino event. If anything, CMIP6 models have been running a bit hot globally over the past decade, so we cannot make the case that the world as a whole is warming faster than projected based on these models.

          We cannot make the case that the world as a whole is warming faster than projected”
          – July 27, 2023.

          Hang on, didn’t you just say this Zeke?

          “In hindsight, that was clearly not the case
          – October 13, 2023 (upthread)

          Seems to be a radical turn around after just two and a half months.

          Climate science must be a very fluid discipline – I’m surprised anyone ever becomes proficient which such fluidity.

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    Harves

    Now this is funny. ABC reporter/ YES cheerleader Patricia Karvelas moaning because she didn’t get invited to the “NO Party”.
    “ I was at the No event. We were crammed into a media room away from what was obviously a party. The narrative was that there wasn’t anything other than canapes. But Australia’s richest woman, Gina Rinehart was there – I asked many times who was there but they would not share.”

    Obviously the whole ABC would have been invited to a YES party in recognition of their campaigning efforts.

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    Harves

    Time for Dutton and the conservative part of the Libs to forget about the ‘Teal electorates’ and realise that conservative Australia now lives in the suburbs, the regions and the bush. So many ‘Labor electorates’ full of Howard’s battlers are there for the taking if Dutton is bold enough to forget about pandering to electorates like Wentworth and Kooyong.

    Take note: 120 electorates voted against Labor and the Greens. That’s a federal election landslide just waiting to happen.

    First step is to make Jacinta Price Deputy Leader of the Libs.

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      another ian

      “First step is to make Jacinta Price Deputy Leader of the Libs.”

      She has done a magnificent job for being pitchforked at short notice into that job.

      But I reckon she should be given some more time to sus out how things work in the Canberrs rathouse before any rush promotion like that.

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    John Connor II

    Sunday funny: from one married man to another

    https://twitter.com/TheCensoredRock/status/1712915713524957408

    😆😆

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    John Connor II

    Tesla model 3 shot 100 times by Hamas, does 170km/h run on destroyed tyres to hospital

    This is the amazing story of how Tesla saved the life of one of the first Israelis to face Hamas.

    “The terrorists recognized me from a distance of 10 yards. In addition to their Kalashnikovs, they had a machine gun that fired bullets of a larger caliber. They did not realize that it was an EV, so they shot at the front, hoping to hit the engine that wasn’t there, and at the back, trying to set the fuel tank on fire. Of course there was also no fuel tank. They shot my tires. I pressed the accelerator, and they started chasing me.”

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1712822693727207895.html

    A Tesla that didn’t catch fire.
    Hey Elon – this’d make a good advert! 😎

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      yarpos

      Trust me, if you are shooting with an AK, you arent really aiming that much (ex owner). What they were shooting at is a figment of his imagination. AK’s are an effective spray and pray machine. Accuracy beyond 50-100metres is dependent on where your AK was made (there are many kinds) adrenaline levels and basic skill.

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    Grogery

    I am very happy today.

    I really thought many more Australians would fall for this voice apartheid rubbish.

    To the majority of sensible voters in this country, thank you! You have restored my faith that we’re not all stupid.

    It turns out that most of us didn’t want race written into the constitution – even though we were labelled as racist for not wanting race written into the constitution – and the imbeciles that wanted race written into the constitution were not racist of-course.

    I think I’ll celebrate again, now that my hangover is almost gone.

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      John Connor II

      But the division is now established, which was the real objective. Create a “cause”, divide opinion, divide society.
      The Oz equivalent of BLM. Red ants/black ants, and the WEF shakes the jar.
      The YES 40% now see the NO 60% as racist whities and we’ll invariably see some serious whining, complaining and blaming about the outcome.

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        another ian

        ” the WEF shakes the jar.”

        And is down-sizing. Link later if I can find it

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        yarpos

        It was always there. Give it a few news cycles and lets see.

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        Harves

        I think this could unite the 60% of mainstream Australia who are now being called racists by their ‘betters’ in Canberra and the inner city suburbs. We just need a politician who is bold enough to campaign to win the 120 or so electorates who don’t trust Labor and the Greens. Forget about the Teal seats – leave them with no mainstream party representation.

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      David of Cooyal in Oz

      I’m just relieved.
      Also just hoping that the ardent YES mob don’t get really nasty.
      But perhaps we can now ask some searching questions and get some real answers without just being ignored and/or being labelled “racist”.

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        yarpos

        I’m told there is some woman in Canberra spitting on the few who voted No on her little island of dogma.

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      yarpos

      Health insurance anywhere is advisable if affordable

      A friend dumped his a couple of years ago and in quick succession he had a motorcycle crash (femur/hip) and and his wife was diagnosed with a degenerative disease. He is now exposed to waiting lists that a couple of thousand dollars would have avoided.

      Odd thing insurance , seems stupid expensive, till you need it.

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    HB

    This under climate change just blows there indication that they understand anything
    The electric everything that they promote so hard would be destroyed by such an event
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/300987615/massive-prehistoric-solar-storm-is-warning-for-earth-researchers-say

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    yarpos

    So, just watching a UK based series on renovating/restoring old structures.

    This episode if a young couple renovating an old barn and so, so concerned about their “carbon”

    They want to harvest an old oak tree on the property for wood for the renovation, rather than bringing it in, because “carbon”

    Its in a shallow lake, so after cutting with the petrol chainsaw, three layers of diesel machines get bogged before a big enough diesel powered machine to pull it out. It then get cut by the petrol powered on site mill.

    No mention of “carbon” when the three truckloads of concrete arrive to pump in their sub floors, or the massive floor to ceiling aluminium glass doors. While bragging about the enviro credentials of the house they talk about the lovely Italian tiles in the bathroom.

    The selective thinking of these people is quite unbelievable. The ability to tell yourself stories and paint yourself in virtue seems to be a real talent of the lefty brigade.

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      MrGrimNasty

      In this program they went all eco.
      https://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-great-house-giveaway/on-demand/72200-008
      Despite getting a lot of the eco stuff cheap/free off the back of the program publicity, they still made a loss.

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      Richard C (NZ)

      We have program Hyundai Country Calendar which had a program couple of weeks ago about an orchard operation growing “climate friendly cherries”.

      Actually really impressive in a technology sense and some successful outside-the-box thinking. The guy was a software developer who made a mint in OZ then bought the land and developed the orchard. All covered and perfect cherries. He had developed software to sell electricity on an arbitrage system and measured his efficiency against the price of diesel.

      But I couldn’t help noticing that, apart from their two diesel-subsidized Hyundai EV Konas, there was oil in evidence everywhere.

      Cabinets full of polymer cased electronics and copper wiring (think mining).

      Electric anti-frost fans that would have had a long run of (probably) copper cabling, again with polymer sheathing.

      The truck hauling the bins out to market was diesel powered.

      Steel framed sheds with concrete floors and steel roofs.

      The self-driving robot tractor (first in NZ) was predominantly of materials requiring mining/refining.

      Still, the wealthy virtue signalling market can’t get enough – good on him.

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        Richard C (NZ)

        >“climate friendly cherries”

        Apologies, memory failed me. The actual term is:

        “climate-conscious cherries”

        Hyundai Country Calendar Competition
        https://www.hyundai.co.nz/hyundai-country/country-calendar-competition

        NZ0 is a high-density cherry orchard in Central Otago, New Zealand that operates without burning fossil fuels. They believe they are the first commercial food grower in New Zealand (if not the world) to achieve this goal.

        The climate is a key focus in what they do, and NZ0 believes New Zealand’s future as a food-producing nation will excel with the ability to grow and produce food in a highly sustainable and climate-friendly way.

        NZ0 has electrified everything, from irrigation and frost-fighting fans to vehicles, tools, and even a future electric tractor and truck! A 45kWh solar production and a substantial, extendable battery array support all this equipment.

        This week, Hyundai customer NZ0 is giving you the opportunity to win a 5KG box of their delicious, crunchy, climate-conscious cherries.

        Enter to win here, and head to https://nz0.com to learn more about their mission.

        Links to NZ0: Zero Fossil Fuel Cherries

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          Richard C (NZ)

          NZ0 Certification

          Working with AsureQuality, we developed the NZ0 certification. A key step in rebuilding consumer trust by providing an authentic and trustworthy certification, while eliminating green-washing that leaves the consumer and growers unsatisfied and frustrated.

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    another ian

    A couple of readings relevant to times of now –

    https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2015/11/19/terrorism/

    https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2022/09/16/rules/

    DDG was useless in finding the track to these. I got there via Startpage.

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      yarpos

      Ahh Pointy, I miss his musings from his Lagrange point in life. Among the many thing he made me think about was “what the hell is a Lagrange point?” Always interesting.

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    Graeme#4

    A new article in The Australian explains the role of Advance Australia in promoting the NO campaign. Interesting.

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