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The “InVoice” Referendum has been defeated. The People have spoken.
The ABC Projects
National – 74.3% counted
YES – 39.8%, and 5.17M votes
NO – 60.2%, and 7.83M votes
Referendum defeated
The Voice to Parliament referendum has been defeated. The ABC projects a majority NO vote nationally and in all six states plus the NT.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-14/live-updates-voice-to-parliament-referendum-latest-news/102969568
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Congratulations Australia, and New Zealand as well, the people have spoken. Time for a special coffee on this sunny Sunday morning.
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Bundy Bear seen staggering through a most glorious Saturday evening, watching the New Zealand election result followed by Australia having a common sense moment.
Head ache level celebrations.
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The best (unintended) result of all of this is the “follow the money” public opinion swell that should result in more accountability and better review/management of the numerous funnels that for too long have only delivered a trickle to the areas in need.
The second (even more unintended) result is best captioned by a quote by Alexandre Auguste Ledru-Rollin:
“There go my people. I must find out where they are going so I can lead them”
ACT may be the home of a politician’s “people” but it is not the home of the real peoples of Australia.
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[Alexandre Auguste Ledru-Rollin – I edit corrected it and saved but didn’t change?]
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The ACT, it should be noted, gets most of its GDP from taxpayers in the rest of the country. \
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Here’s the link to the National Tally room. Results updated “every 300 seconds”:
https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/ReferendumNationalResults-29581.htm
Double majority for NO. ACT the only mob to go YES. Symptomatic of something?
Cheers
Dave B
PS I saw the results last night , but had to check this morning to see if they’d survived the night.
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Did you worry that the counting might suddenly stop at midnight for “technical reasons”?
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Victoriastan is an interesting case.
All through the evening it was considered “too close to call” but it ended up with about 45.5% yes and 54.5% NO.
A most unexpected result, all the more so because it ended up favouring the rational-thinking side.
Maybe the Leftist media commentators (ABC, SBS and NITV) couldn’t bring themselves to update NO votes as they came in.
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And Albo blamed the puppet lying MSM for the YES failure.😆😆
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I did wonder, but overall I thought any interference would have to be different as we’re still on the paper based system. So I hoped our system was sufficiently robust. Our compulsory enrolment and voting system gives some (quite strong?) accounting capability which limits the ability to add in extras.
Needed to check anyway.
Cheers
Dave B
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Good news.
But there are still 39.8% of Australians that think race-based laws are acceptable.
With the right propaganda campaign that number could be pushed over 50%.
That’s disturbing and dangerous.
In any case, it’s still an impressive result given the huge Leftist bias of the media, vacuous “celebritities”, big virtue-signaling corporations, NO campaigners being scared to display NO posters on their homes or businesses due to being afraid of Leftist violence or boycotts etc..
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Yes David, you are right to sound a warning.
The green left will continue with their agenda in all walks of life.
Albanese still thinks he is the right person to lead Australia.
Surely he must resign now !!
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I think a big quota of the YES vote was people who vote Labor no matter what…..they wouldn’t have analysed the referendum question and thought it through.
And does anyone look at and analyse the political slant of the foreign language press here in Oz. My guess is they control a far bit of the migrant vote. Dan made good use of them.
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Yes, it was a good result but now a lot of us would like some truthful answers from our PM for a change. For example where and and how is the almost 50 billion dollars spent on our aboriginal folk? How and where is it being designated? When I read of the situation in Alice Springs for example. Why are real situations like this still happening now? I suspect a huge review of duplicated services need a fast tracked review. Also why is Labor bringing so many people into this country at time of hardship, housing crisis and here in Qld a huge lack of infrastructure?
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The silent majority have woken up and with great people like Jacinta and Warren the pendulum is being forced back. Still more of us need to help carry the flame publicly and make the government(s) accountable.
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Correct Earl, Now while the subject is still hot , we should all contact our federal member by post and demand an audit of what has worked and what hasn’t, in the spending of forty billion dollars a year without a positive result. Through an Audit we could find out where every single dollar settled, and in whose pocket. We could sort this out for one and all.
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Australia says no. Your Brexit moment. What’s the betting the question will be asked again, perhaps in a different form but with the same intended end result?
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The powers that be will almost certainly realise that constitutional change is not the way to subjugate the nation.
My crystal ball says that the lawfare brigade will therefore simply ignore the constitution and do what they want anyway.
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I think that some Federal Ministers might stop and think that ‘their’ electorates in NSW voted heavily against The Voice, Linda Burney among them.
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Thats very good. You used Linda Burney and “stop and think” in one sentence. You dont see that very often.
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News here of various pro Palestinan marches around the UK.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12630283/Hamas-arrested-Met-Police-pro-Palestinian-protesters-London-officers.html
We have a very small Arab population here so it was interesting to view the demonstrators and see that the vast majority were white.
A Cambridge professor made the pertinent observation (and got in trouble for it) “if you import the Arab state you will get the Arab state.”
In that respect France has a very substantial Arab derived population from their colonies. Those words can be said about almost any group of people emanating from the same place as they will dilute the indigenous population and through their desire to hang on to their customs, religion, enmities and culture, many will not attempt to integrate
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I can offer counseling for the many on here that will be devastated by the defeat of the New Zealand govt. Where has Arden and Sturgeon and the former Finnish Prime minister all gone to?
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/10/14/jacinda-ardens-labour-party-thrown-out-of-office-in-new-zealand-election/
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Will New Zealanders get a genuine conservative government or one that is too scared to govern, like most ‘conservative’ governments throughout the West?
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Indeed.
Are they genuine conservatives or are they just the other faction of the Uniparty like our “Liberals” (pretend conservatives) here and similarly for other supposed conservatives in other Western countries?
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Maybe, just maybe, Peter Dutton will see the light & realise that if he grabs the conservative policies by the throat & runs with them the conservative base will follow. Problem is the Party Room which is packed to the rafters with woke LINOS
& WEF acolytes & climate change nutters.
The one big remaining problem is the MSM. They’ve also taken a beating by the Voice rejection but all that they’ll do is come back twice as hard with their normal misinformation, lies & distortion. The conservative base needs to devise some retribution for them. Giving the ABC a good shake & sanitising against socialist wokeism would be a good start. If the shake up won’t work shut it down or flog it off!
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I first posted this a few days ago
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2023/10/13/michael-kelly-the-green-energy-net-zero-plan-will-require-a-command-economy/
In the Article the esteemed Prof Kelly details all the vast amounts of material needed to make and erect such things as wind turbines.
We have a few greens posting on here and my genuine 3 questions to them are;
“Where on earth will we get the materials from to create the energy sources needed to power a 24/7 society?”
A secondary one is “Do you realise how much it will cost? and the third;
“How will the serious intermittency problems be overcome?”
Try as I might I can never get anyone to properly address these issues.
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These things matter to you, matters not to them.
The society you speak of, they intend to end.
Just noticed you got a red thumb for asking a question.
There you have it.
No attempt at an answer.
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You have EVs, but many people keep a second proper ICE car for urgent longer journeys.
You have windmills and solar PV, with a proper fossil fuel power station in reserve.
Now we have heat pumps paired with a gas boiler.
https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/hybrid-systems
What sort of madness is it when you ‘replace’ something at ludicrous expense, but need the original thing too?
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“What sort of madness is it when you ‘replace’ something at ludicrous expense, but need the original thing too?”
That is why
(Real LCOE Renewables) = (LCOE Renewables) + (LCOE Fossil Fuel Back-up) +(LCOE Nuclear Back-up)
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Since we have been told how cheap “renewables” are, I have wondered how anyone could think it possible that electricity would get cheaper as a result of adding more infrastructure and more hardware, with more layers of technology, all on top of existing systems.
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Instead of giving me a red thumb why not just answer any one of my three reasonable questions.?
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This site believes in free speech so the best the Leftists can do here is give you a red thumb with no attempt at refutation (because they can’t refute a logical argument).
On one of “their” sites, your comment would be deleted or never allowed to be posted in the first place.
If your comment was made in person, they would likely violently attack you.
Some, they intimidate into silence.
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Tonyb,
I’ll do it.
“Where on earth will we get the materials from to create the energy sources needed to power a 24/7 society?”
From poor countries that seldom get visits from private jets.
“Do you realise how much it will cost?
No. Don’t care. We’re saving the planet. The well of the tax base is infinite, especially when our portfolios harvest the subsides.
Other people’s money, the life blood of virtue.
“How will the serious intermittency problems be overcome?”
Not a problem. We’ll just install FF backup systems. Far enough away on the estate so the noise doesn’t bother.
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Its a badge of honour Tony.
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So, how is your Bank account doing?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/major-banks-close-3000-branches-nationwide-recent-50/
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Leftist censorship, shadow banning and canceling continues:
The YouTube channels of JP Sears are being shadow banned.
Also for Tony Heller.
Also Epoch Times had one of their YouTube channels deleted.
Brett Weinstein is also being shadow banned and is increasingly putting his material on X.
Numerous other conservative- or rational-thought-oriented YouTube members or channels are being shadow banned or deleted outright.
It’s also probably related to the lead up to the US Election.
Notice how conservative-oriented outlets like this blog don’t censor Leftists because conservatives and fellow rational thinkers believe in free speech, even from those with whom they disagree, but most of us here are or have been actively censored on Leftist outlets.
And Leftists are not the least bit embarrassed by their actions, or indeed the frequent and increasing amounts of violence and vandalism of their comrades in pursuit of their censorship objectives. They are showing their true colours, just like their Communist and National Socialist predecessors.
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So the message from the left is that 60% of the population fell for a massive campaign of disinformation and the NO scare campaign was just too loud. Apparently those stupid Australians listened to Dutton, Jacinta Price. Warren Mundine and Kamahl instead of listening to Labor, the Greens, the AFL, Big banks, Qantas, the ABC, The Project, Barnsey, Magda, football players, pop songs, and any celebrity the YES campaign or media could drag out.
This would be hilarious if it hadn’t cost $360 million.
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Listening to ABC news and other media outlets it’s clear that some of them just cannot accept the reality of what has just occurred.
And our Prime Minister Albanese is completely out of touch with 60% of the Australian people.
Listen to his ridiculous comments about being ‘proud etc’ The news is all about the 40% who are the downtrodden heroes and how they will fight back.
The rest of us, 60% of the Nation are all missguided or racist . .
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I listened to our Prime Minister who gave no detail and who had apparently not read beyond the executive summary of the USFtH. All I heard from him were platitudes, motherhood statements and a dose of guilt tripping. His performance alone was an argument for No.
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I came out of a store today and found a hybrid auto parked next to my pickup truck.
What a fright! Anxiety exploded. The truck is my only vehicle. If the truck was destroyed, I would have to walk to the nearest auto lot and buy something just to get home.
Needed is a group to advocate for the separation of parking spaces. A name and acronym are needed.
Stand with me and be counted.
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There should be separate parking for EVs and ICE vehicles with EV parking being the furthest away with at least a 25 metre buffer zone all around.
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Car keys and coins have many uses.
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Not all hybrids have Li-ion batteries.
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Just imagine what the $365 million thrown away on promoting Australian Apartheid (The Voice) could be used for if it was used for something useful like paying down Australia’s massive Federal, State and Local Government debt of nearly $1.8 trillion.
https://australiandebtclock.com.au/
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I’m not sure you can pay down debt with borrowed money, at least, not without causing more problems later!!
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Fair enough. I was assuming the money was coming out of revenue. But I guess the $365 million wouldn’t be added to existing debt.
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I was being somewhat facetious, sorry.
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“Buy the shirt.”
https://michaelsmithnews.typepad.com/.a/6a0177444b0c2e970d02c8d39bf459200c-800wi
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/10/buy-the-shirt.html
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FWIW – “Read all about it”
““Refusing to fly has lost me my job as a climate researcher” ”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/10/14/refusing-to-fly-has-lost-me-my-job-as-a-climate-researcher/
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He lost his job as he has shown to be an ignorant idiot not interested in fulfilling his contract he had with his employer.
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Are there any good video compilations of Leftist pro-Apartheid activists going into meltdown when they learned that the anti-Apartheid vote won?
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Reminder about the Lake Goldsmith Steam Rally.
Vintage steam and ICE engines.
Celebrate the internal and external combustion engine and the hydrocarbon fuels which powered them.
https://www.lakegoldsmithsteamrally.org.au/
November 4th and 5th 2023.
It’s about 2 hrs drive from Melbournistan (Australia).
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Incidentally, it’s only a matter of time before Leftists try to get such rallies banned.
They wouldn’t want people to know about the machines that powered the Industrial Revolution.
That would be fully consistent with their Orwellian censorship policies.
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Like the push for a republic, this isn’t the end of the matter. Leftists do NOT give up even when the majority opposes them. They will try some other means to get what they want, perhaps including a repeat referendum a few years from now.
But as I have said before, Albanese has set Australia up for years of racial tensions, upon which calls for another referendum or racist legislation will be built . Not content with importing thousands of people hostile to western culture and Australian traditions, he has now created a massive divide that will fuel anger, bitterness, mistrust and maybe violence. The increase we have seen in crime committed by young aboriginals will escalate, as will the racist rhetoric and goading from the likes of Lidia Thorpe.
Australia will become the racist nation that the Left has always longed for it to be. THIS will be Albanese’s legacy.
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I can’t see there being another attempt to change the constitution. More likely the powers that be simply do what they want and ignore it.
That would follow the pattern in the USA where the government simply ignores court decisions and acts unlawfully.
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Having been massively foiled & rejected in his attempt to use the poor bush Aboriginals to get into our constitution, surely any prime minister with any self respect would resign.
What is the betting on Albo?
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Are you expecting him to think and act logically? He has never done this before.
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Here in Queensland we have the annual advocacy for Daylight saving. We have said NO twice and yet the cafe latte set continue with their winge , abetted by TV news editors who have space in their show.
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The referendum result clearly exhibits the massive social divide between inner cities and the rest. We are long overdue for new state boundaries which excise our big cities from rural Australia. The current boundaries are pointless.
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I would like to see a breakdown of those inner city types who voted for Apartheid. I assume they are mostly wealthy Leftist types in senior public “service” roles or senior management in virtue signaling companies like Qantas or alternatively unemployed Leftist welfare recipients with way too much time on their hands and living in taxpayer-funded housing.
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The majority of Canberrans voting yes speaks volumes although even there the result was less than 99% yes.
Perhaps there is still a divine spark of reason.
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NO, The fentanyl, and coke had run out at their party
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“The current boundaries are pointless.”
Yes! Put border checkpoints up the Great Divide! An East Coast State can have all the big-city people, a Farming State can have the green strip beside it, and the rest is the Mining State where nothing grows. Keep the Sydneysiders in Sydney!
Maybe we can quickly re-draw the States according to how the votes went. Little city-states of Yes voters, the rest for the No voters. Remove GST and taxation is an internal State problem.
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Posted from a friend:
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There are at least a couple of strategies.
You can own the “stupid, ignorant and misinformed” label and add “and proud of it”. You can agree with them and then do the opposite.
As long as it throws sand in their gears I’m happy to do what I can to subvert the loony vibe.
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Era Of ‘Unquestioned And Unchallenged’ Climate Change Claims Is Over
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/era-unquestioned-and-unchallenged-climate-change-claims-over
Leading voices in the climate community are in an uproar as their warming hypothesis comes under fresh assault by new scientific papers.
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Study blows ‘greenhouse theory out of the water’
https://www.wnd.com/2017/07/study-blows-greenhouse-theory-out-of-the-water/
“New Insights on the Physical Nature of the Atmospheric Greenhouse Effect Deduced from an Empirical Planetary Temperature Model” – Nikolov and Zeller
“If correct, the implications of the discovery would be enormous, multiple scientists told WND.
For one, it means the climate projections used to forecast warming doom and justify a wide range of policies are completely wrong.”
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True science has always known that P.V = n.R.T is operative from about 30 metres above ground level to way up in the atmosphere where it’s so cold that humans could not survive.
Human activity is inconsequential in the thermal aspects of our Planet’s daily interaction with the Sun and we need to get busy to explore, identify and break open the deceit and real purpose of this AGW leach that’s controlling and crushing so much of our lives.
Refer and Rendem!
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Willie Soon, from Zero Hedge above:
“In a highly unusual development for complex scientific studies, that paper has been downloaded more than 55,000 times since it was published.”
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There is a series of videos from “FrollY” from 2019 who did his PhD on adiabatic compression, not “greenhouse” heating of the atmosphere to explain the temperature on various planetary systems.
https://youtu.be/4ZKI40d5YHs
I found it hard to find the video just them via a Goolag or YouTube search as he seems to be getting shadow banned.
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“A great nation like ours can and must do better for the First Australians,” the prime minister said.
Well, Arrogant Albo, get off yer’ fat backside and do your job along with Linda “Gucci” Burney.
Accountability is the way forward so get on with it and find out where all those many, many billions of Taxpayer funded Australian Dollars are going.
Then you and the Feral Laybore Guv’ment can start to fix things.
NOW.
And that’s The Voice. Are you listening?
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A good start might be to get a rerun of the Productivity Commissions report on total expediture on indigenous affairs.
The 40 billion figure often mentioned is many years old and will be much higher now. Add two additional questions. How much of this actually gets spent on real issues outside of capital cities rather than admin and overheads? and why?
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“A great nation like ours can and must do better for the First Australians,” the prime minister said.
Well, Arrogant Albo, get off yer’ fat backside and do your job along with Linda “Gucci” Burney.
Accountability is the way forward so get on with it and find out where all those many, many billions of Taxpayer funded Australian Dollars are going.
Then you and the Feral Laybore Guv’ment can start to fix things.
NOW.
And that’s The Voice. Are you listening?
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Yep, what is the point of Burnley and her Indigenous Affairs department if it’s not to listen to and represent indigenous Australians.
Same goes for the Govt funded National Indigenous Australians Agency. On their web page, this is what they claim to do:
“ We lead and influence change across government to ensure Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples have a say in the decisions that affect them.”
Sack them all.
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3 hopes got up this weekend. Unfortunately probably the left will double down on the voice. I heard in NZ that Auckland and Wellington central electorates continued the pattern, by both going green. And the All Blacks turned up for work.
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Aborigines didn’t need to be racially segregated with “The Voice”.
What was needed was some accountability for the billions of dollars already spent on hundreds of Aboriginal welfare programs.
Most of it is evidently wasted or corruptly pocketed by Aboriginal “leaders”.
Senator Jacinta Price has repeatedly sought accountability for how the money is spent but is refused at every attempt. (She discussed that at the last CPAC conference, see her talk on YouTube.)
There needs to be a forensic audit of the money.
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Whilst I see no reason to believe aboriginal ‘leaders’ are less corrupt than the rest of us and agree a few are getting very wealthy off the back of taxpayers, I personally believe that the majority of funds supposedly spent on aboriginal programs never leaves the governments’ hands. The majority is spent on administering the programs, for which huge numbers of public servants and new departments are created, each with a highly-remunerated board and management team. Then there are the offices needed to house the staff, plus expense accounts to fly them around the country (seated comfortably in their business class seats).
In this respect the indigenous affairs activities run by governments mimics the charity industry, which mostly exists the enrich the people working within it. Whether an indigenous aid program or a charity, I reckon very little of the money invested actually lands at the feet of those they are supposedly helping.
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Absolutely! The card idea was brilliant, there’s nothing stopping Govt giving every needy welfare recipient a Govt debit card and the money goes straight into their bank account. They can pretend to be real people who have to work for a living and save up for things, while getting rid of all the middle men.
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I assume Scruton is referring to the fake self-identified “intellectuals” (sic) of the Left like you find on Their ABC, SBS or “The Project” or what passes for “universities” these days, not genuine scholars.
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I wrote this in 2020.
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Again, I apologise for being “immoderate”.
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New York Refuses To Give More Money For Offshore Wind Projects As Cheap “Green” Myth Implodes
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The YES crowd could get a bit of practice at forensic accountability by investigating and publishing their own financial books – reveal their donors, and expenditure on advertising, and payments to personnel.
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Pharma Nation: Americans will spend half their lives taking prescription drugs
Recent estimates tell us that over 60 percent of U.S. adults take prescription drugs, and over 45 percent have taken a prescribed drug over the prior 30 days. Now, worrying new predictive research from Penn State reports young Americans born in 2019 can expect to spend a significant portion of their lives medicated.
In fact, study authors estimate these young Americans will likely spend more years on prescription meds than being married or receiving an education!
Led by Jessica Ho, associate professor of sociology and demography at Penn State, the research also points to some gender disparities. American males will be on prescription drugs for 48 percent of their lives. That percentage balloons to 60% for females.
Researchers report most American men take prescription drugs by age 40, while most American women are taking prescription drugs by age 15. A newborn male born in 2019, on average, should expect to take meds for about 37 years, or 48 percent of their life. A newborn girl born in 2019, meanwhile, could expect to stay on meds for approximately 47.5 years, or 60 percent of her life.
Regarding health care costs, prescription drug expenditures reached $335 billion in 2018. Out-of-pocket expenditures on prescription medications, meanwhile, made up 14 percent of drug spending, with prescription drug spending projected to hit $875 billion (15.4% of national health expenditures) by 2026.
https://read.dukeupress.edu/demography/article/60/5/1549/382305/Life-Course-Patterns-of-Prescription-Drug-Use-in
That’s before the Fakevax ™ does its job…
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DNA contaminants – an ‘accident’ too far?
Kevin McKernan’s demonstration of high levels of DNA in the vaccine vials has now been replicated by six other laboratories globally. There are strict limits placed on the amount of DNA allowed because of the risk of this foreign DNA integrating into the human genome. Oddly the EMA limits the amount as a ratio with how much mRNA is present rather than giving an absolute amount. These higher levels were exceeded by 20-30 times.
Cancer genomics expert, Dr. Phillip Buckhaults was one of the scientists to replicate the measurements and expressed huge concerns about how the DNA was in an optimal state for integration into the human genome. It was not circular, as in the original plasmid, but in linear lengths. Furthermore, each strand would have a similar chance of integration but the DNA present was hugely fragmented such that one strand might have broken down into 100 fragments increasing the risk of integration by 100 fold.
This alone would be a reason to call out the competence of those responsible for making the products and every regulator globally. However, the story gets much worse. There are four other ways in which this DNA was optimised for nuclear integration.
https://www.hartgroup.org/dna-contaminants/
DNA integration and alteration is the real purpose, but what is the objective you ask?
Who would have the technical expertise to orchestrate such a plan?
/evolution is too slow.😉
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A New “Brave New World”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/new-brave-new-world
For the past century, it’s been a mainstay of the science-fiction genre: the medicated society—a society in which the majority of the population is given some form of drug to alter their behaviour, ostensibly for the better.
“This is a textbook case of what the philosopher Ivan Illich called “iatrogenesis,” or “medically caused harm.” In his famous book “Medical Nemesis” (1975), Illich argued that the growing medicalization of society is having the paradoxical effect of making us less and less well. In particular, what medicalization does, according to Illich, is reduce our capacity to respond to our problems of health and well-being in suitable ways.”
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Net Zero Reckoning: Joanne Nova’s Eye-Opening Discussion on Realistic Climate Goals 😎️
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PS:There’s plenty of wind in Canberra, Jo, Why not just put all the wind turbines around there?!
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Ardern Aftermath – New Zealand Elects Conservative Prime Minister Christopher Luxon
“Jacinda Ardern, a favorite of the World Economic Forum and leftists in the globalist movement, led her party to lose half of their Kiwi support. The Conservative Party in New Zealand, led by Christoper Luxon, have won the election.”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/10/14/ardern-aftermath-new-zealand-elects-conservative-prime-minister-christopher-luxon/
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So I thought banning those nasty CFC’s etc fixed the ozone hole:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12596861/Ozone-Hole-one-BIGGEST-record-Gap-Antarctica-three-times-size-Brazil-larger.html
So what now? Were they wrong and these chemicals have nothing whatsoever to do with the formation and size of the hole?
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The US debt in one picture
https://imgbox.com/IkdOz1Xb
Wonder why things are going crazy and accelerating?
Now you know.
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The US Debt Clock has been upgraded.
Now has Energy Ratios, (solar to oil)
https://www.usdebtclock.org/
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Zeke Hausfather is losing his mind:
“Staggering. Unnerving. Mind-boggling. Absolutely gobsmackingly bananas” [Chart]
https://dnyuz.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Im-a-Climate-Scientist-and-Septembers-Warmth-Freaked-Me-Out-750×375.png
I Study Climate Change. The Data Is Telling Us Something New.
https://dnyuz.com/2023/10/13/i-study-climate-change-the-data-is-telling-us-something-new/
Apparently a wild outlier (see chart above) is a “clear signal”.
Not noise – signal.
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It’s not worse than we thought:
Psychosis complete. About psychosis:
In this case probably the climatosis strain.
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Zeke:
So now, climate model projections actually model the noise (wild natural variation) in the system “quite closely”?
This is news to me Zeke – thanks for the update. I will however be making my own assessment from a wider and deeper information pool.
Surely a sudden inflexion is not an “acceleration”, technically speaking?
When did the definition change Zeke?
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Ok, so what else have you got Zeke? Oh yes, this:
Are temperatures this summer hotter than scientists expected?
Posted on July 27, 2023 by Zeke Hausfather
https://berkeleyearth.org/are-temperatures-this-summer-hotter-than-scientists-expected/
Figure
CMIP6 models vs One observation datapoint – July 2023
https://berkeleyearth.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/climate-brink-CMIP6-1024×542.webp
“We cannot make the case that the world as a whole is warming faster than projected”
– July 27, 2023.
Hang on, didn’t you just say this Zeke?
“In hindsight, that was clearly not the case”
– October 13, 2023 (upthread)
Seems to be a radical turn around after just two and a half months.
Climate science must be a very fluid discipline – I’m surprised anyone ever becomes proficient which such fluidity.
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CO2 is background noise.
https://notrickszone.com/2023/10/12/new-study-upends-modeling-finds-earths-rocks-are-a-net-source-of-co2-rivaling-volcanic-emissions/
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A few things to ponder on EG. Thanks.
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Now this is funny. ABC reporter/ YES cheerleader Patricia Karvelas moaning because she didn’t get invited to the “NO Party”.
“ I was at the No event. We were crammed into a media room away from what was obviously a party. The narrative was that there wasn’t anything other than canapes. But Australia’s richest woman, Gina Rinehart was there – I asked many times who was there but they would not share.”
Obviously the whole ABC would have been invited to a YES party in recognition of their campaigning efforts.
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Time for Dutton and the conservative part of the Libs to forget about the ‘Teal electorates’ and realise that conservative Australia now lives in the suburbs, the regions and the bush. So many ‘Labor electorates’ full of Howard’s battlers are there for the taking if Dutton is bold enough to forget about pandering to electorates like Wentworth and Kooyong.
Take note: 120 electorates voted against Labor and the Greens. That’s a federal election landslide just waiting to happen.
First step is to make Jacinta Price Deputy Leader of the Libs.
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“First step is to make Jacinta Price Deputy Leader of the Libs.”
She has done a magnificent job for being pitchforked at short notice into that job.
But I reckon she should be given some more time to sus out how things work in the Canberrs rathouse before any rush promotion like that.
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Sunday funny: from one married man to another
https://twitter.com/TheCensoredRock/status/1712915713524957408
😆😆
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Sunday funny: helicopter “rescue”
https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_s2dw14imjw1z7uchi.mp4
BPPV for beginners. 😉
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Tesla model 3 shot 100 times by Hamas, does 170km/h run on destroyed tyres to hospital
This is the amazing story of how Tesla saved the life of one of the first Israelis to face Hamas.
“The terrorists recognized me from a distance of 10 yards. In addition to their Kalashnikovs, they had a machine gun that fired bullets of a larger caliber. They did not realize that it was an EV, so they shot at the front, hoping to hit the engine that wasn’t there, and at the back, trying to set the fuel tank on fire. Of course there was also no fuel tank. They shot my tires. I pressed the accelerator, and they started chasing me.”
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1712822693727207895.html
A Tesla that didn’t catch fire.
Hey Elon – this’d make a good advert! 😎
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Trust me, if you are shooting with an AK, you arent really aiming that much (ex owner). What they were shooting at is a figment of his imagination. AK’s are an effective spray and pray machine. Accuracy beyond 50-100metres is dependent on where your AK was made (there are many kinds) adrenaline levels and basic skill.
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I am very happy today.
I really thought many more Australians would fall for this voice apartheid rubbish.
To the majority of sensible voters in this country, thank you! You have restored my faith that we’re not all stupid.
It turns out that most of us didn’t want race written into the constitution – even though we were labelled as racist for not wanting race written into the constitution – and the imbeciles that wanted race written into the constitution were not racist of-course.
I think I’ll celebrate again, now that my hangover is almost gone.
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But the division is now established, which was the real objective. Create a “cause”, divide opinion, divide society.
The Oz equivalent of BLM. Red ants/black ants, and the WEF shakes the jar.
The YES 40% now see the NO 60% as racist whities and we’ll invariably see some serious whining, complaining and blaming about the outcome.
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” the WEF shakes the jar.”
And is down-sizing. Link later if I can find it
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It was always there. Give it a few news cycles and lets see.
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I think this could unite the 60% of mainstream Australia who are now being called racists by their ‘betters’ in Canberra and the inner city suburbs. We just need a politician who is bold enough to campaign to win the 120 or so electorates who don’t trust Labor and the Greens. Forget about the Teal seats – leave them with no mainstream party representation.
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I’m just relieved.
Also just hoping that the ardent YES mob don’t get really nasty.
But perhaps we can now ask some searching questions and get some real answers without just being ignored and/or being labelled “racist”.
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I’m told there is some woman in Canberra spitting on the few who voted No on her little island of dogma.
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Health insurance in the USA is a must!
https://64.media.tumblr.com/9437591b42093cb39be1e0686fc5dc37/1d08a224fcae5984-e9/s640x960/0efae27950170b4b443210f4f84efa2c7fd05de6.jpg
https://64.media.tumblr.com/2eda2a132399fa0a50351e917d8a314b/1d08a224fcae5984-b2/s1280x1920/a11c666d2676da0527920acfa2011e8bf8da0ddd.jpg
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Health insurance anywhere is advisable if affordable
A friend dumped his a couple of years ago and in quick succession he had a motorcycle crash (femur/hip) and and his wife was diagnosed with a degenerative disease. He is now exposed to waiting lists that a couple of thousand dollars would have avoided.
Odd thing insurance , seems stupid expensive, till you need it.
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This under climate change just blows there indication that they understand anything
The electric everything that they promote so hard would be destroyed by such an event
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/300987615/massive-prehistoric-solar-storm-is-warning-for-earth-researchers-say
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So, just watching a UK based series on renovating/restoring old structures.
This episode if a young couple renovating an old barn and so, so concerned about their “carbon”
They want to harvest an old oak tree on the property for wood for the renovation, rather than bringing it in, because “carbon”
Its in a shallow lake, so after cutting with the petrol chainsaw, three layers of diesel machines get bogged before a big enough diesel powered machine to pull it out. It then get cut by the petrol powered on site mill.
No mention of “carbon” when the three truckloads of concrete arrive to pump in their sub floors, or the massive floor to ceiling aluminium glass doors. While bragging about the enviro credentials of the house they talk about the lovely Italian tiles in the bathroom.
The selective thinking of these people is quite unbelievable. The ability to tell yourself stories and paint yourself in virtue seems to be a real talent of the lefty brigade.
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In this program they went all eco.
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-great-house-giveaway/on-demand/72200-008
Despite getting a lot of the eco stuff cheap/free off the back of the program publicity, they still made a loss.
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We have program Hyundai Country Calendar which had a program couple of weeks ago about an orchard operation growing “climate friendly cherries”.
Actually really impressive in a technology sense and some successful outside-the-box thinking. The guy was a software developer who made a mint in OZ then bought the land and developed the orchard. All covered and perfect cherries. He had developed software to sell electricity on an arbitrage system and measured his efficiency against the price of diesel.
But I couldn’t help noticing that, apart from their two diesel-subsidized Hyundai EV Konas, there was oil in evidence everywhere.
Cabinets full of polymer cased electronics and copper wiring (think mining).
Electric anti-frost fans that would have had a long run of (probably) copper cabling, again with polymer sheathing.
The truck hauling the bins out to market was diesel powered.
Steel framed sheds with concrete floors and steel roofs.
The self-driving robot tractor (first in NZ) was predominantly of materials requiring mining/refining.
Still, the wealthy virtue signalling market can’t get enough – good on him.
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>“climate friendly cherries”
Apologies, memory failed me. The actual term is:
Hyundai Country Calendar Competition
https://www.hyundai.co.nz/hyundai-country/country-calendar-competition
Links to NZ0: Zero Fossil Fuel Cherries
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NZ0 Certification
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A couple of readings relevant to times of now –
https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2015/11/19/terrorism/
https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2022/09/16/rules/
DDG was useless in finding the track to these. I got there via Startpage.
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Ahh Pointy, I miss his musings from his Lagrange point in life. Among the many thing he made me think about was “what the hell is a Lagrange point?” Always interesting.
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A new article in The Australian explains the role of Advance Australia in promoting the NO campaign. Interesting.
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