Who believes the UN anyway?
A few academics want to add apocalyptic climate labels to meat to turn people off their steaks
The aim, apparently, is to shame and harass people into buying the vegeburgers they aren’t voluntarily buying, and thus make the Weather Gods less angry in 2100 AD. Fortunately, in the trial, 90% of would-be meat-eaters just ignored the label and chose the meat anyhow. This must have disappointed the new prohibitionists.
Climate labels similar to cigarette packet warnings could cut meat consumption
The Conversation
To gauge the impact of graphic warning labels on the number of people opting for meat, we split participants into four groups. One group saw a warning label beneath the meat option depicting a deforested area and the phrase “eating meat contributes to climate change”. Another group saw the meat option labelled with an image of a man having a heart attack and the text “eating meat contributes to poor health”. A third group saw a label below the meat option depicting caged animals in a wet market, alongside “eating meat contributes to pandemics”. The final group saw the four meal options with no labels.
When no warning label was presented, participants chose the meat options about two out of three times (64%). This figure dropped to 54% with the pandemic warning labels, 55% with the health warning labels and 57% with the climate warning labels.
Judging by the blatant comparison to cigarette smokers, the aim is not so much to connect the supposed cause and effect of climate change, but mostly to tar meat eaters with the same social opprobrium. After all, if the academics just wanted to raise awareness of the so-called “science”, they could write Beef causes Droughts, or Burgers cause Bushfires or Chicken-sticks melt the Arctic. But since that sounds so stupid, because it is, they can’t connect those dots. What they need instead are the catastrophic photos of a landscape that looks like lung cancer. It’s the feeling that matters — a feeling like leprosy.
The message is “People buying these sausages are selfish, stupid people”.
As a bonus, the labels are also free-advertising for The Cause — it would create government funded reminders all over the shop that “climate change ” needs fixing (give us your taxes, your heaters and your cars!).
These food labels are also adverts that pretend the UN is still respected and useful.
The left always go too far. Because there is no principle, just a fashion contest, more is always better – right up until it breaks.
Our mission is to reach the other ten percent who might give up their meat and help them…
Hat tip to Climate Depot
I think progressives/liberals/socialists/marxist type folks should come with that label on their foreheads. There is no one so dangerous as a moral busybody trying to save you from your violations of their orthodoxy/religion!!
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Or, as the old saying goes:
“The most dangerous organism on the planet is a “concerned citizen”.
As C. S. Lewis elegantly put it:
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good, will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
Then, more bluntly; Voltaire: “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities”.
There is a LOT OF IT ABOUT.
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No need for labels, just look for the complete idiots wearing masks… they are all leftists, I guarantee you…
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Ha ha ha, I’m surprised that not more have agreed with you.
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Throw another steak on the barbie. . . .
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WARNING: Avoiding eating meat makes your brain atrophy.
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And to think that the only effects we have seen from Catastrophic climate change so far have been positive; more vegetation, more food for a growing population, less hunger, less deaths from cold. On the other hand combating climate change has caused the destruction of rain forests to grow palm oil, destruction of national parks to install wind turbines, destruction of farm land to build solar farms and transmission lines and destruction of cheap and reliable energy. Now they want to destroy whale migration routes. It seems the warning labels should apply to the climate catastrophists for they are the ones trying to destroy the planet in order to save it. Idiocy.
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…thousands of self-righteous people certain that they have the solution to the ‘existential threat’ of climate change, and are endlessly ready to tear up your life to implement that solution, but who have no intention of being bound by the same restrictions they want to force on you…
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And Entropy.
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The notion that raising cattle would be ‘bad for the climate’, whatever that may mean, is utter nonsense.
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Clearing trees to graze cattle BAD
Clearing trees to install wind turbines GOOD
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It’s science don’t ya know !
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And in Scotland’s ( SCOTLAND’s!! ) Flow country, we planted trees to save TAX, then we ( THEY ) decided to burn oil to remove the trees to save the PEAT to save the Caaaaabhonne to save the planet.
and what did all the local folk think or do ? Probably still thinking it’s just another stupid nursery rhyme ( as in stupid but funny for little children) like old woman lived in a shoe swallowed fly .. cat dog etc.
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It’s all about demonising one of the healthiest foods there is.
And guess what comes next?
Meat bad, insects good.
Not a conspiracy theory. They are already feeding insects to Aussie schoolkids. Got to start ’em young on this garbage poverty food!
https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/09/1000-australian-schools-are-fed-insects/
That’s child abuse and indoctrination in my opinion.
Do you think the Elite leaders of the Left will be eating insects on their private jet flights to Klimate Krisis Konferences, or will it be the finest meats?
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Don’t say they didn’t tell you of their evil plans.
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Iron?
in processed bugs?
Over fifty percent of the human population is regularly made aware of the role of Iron in the diet.
Over to you, XX types.
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Consider Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners with crown rib roast or turkey sufficiently large to serve a dozen people – Multiply by the number of families that prepare these in a country such as the USA.
For a single holiday meal, how many insects would be required to provide equivalent protein?
Where and how does an economy source the insects?
Do you grow them in urban buildings, farms, or pluck them from plants on a daily basis. My experiences is that not enough are naturally available, so some massive infrastructure would need to be created thereby negating any anticipated benefit.
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DM
“Meat bad, insects good.”
Then the dissention between “the good chitin” and “the bad chitin”
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‘The left always go too far’ (?)
I love animals –
they taste delicious.
I’m eating one for breakfast… mmm.
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Like other “environmental” fads of the Left such as wind and hydrogen power*, anti-meat veganism or vegetarianism is also related to the National Socialists.
National Socialist children’s publication:
*See Rupert Farewell, Green Tyranny: Exposing the Totalitarian Roots of the Climate Industrial Complex.
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It is not just left that actively campaigns against meat. The Jehovah Witness lot own global property second to the catholic church, and all of their schools, hospitals and churches promote vegetarian diets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6Qea59IrA0&t=2839s
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If we weren’t meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat?
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Why are they so tasty ?
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and why can we make bacon out of them?
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Prey animals tend to be vegetarian and have eyes on the side of their heads so they can watch for predators.
Predator animals are meat eaters and have eyes on the front of their head so they are able to focus on prey.
And the location of human eyes is….?
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Tend to be.
A gorilla is? A giant panda is?
Oh they are not prey animals you say. Correct, and they are not carnivores.
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GA,GA, GA 😀 Why are you so often wrong and show it so often ?
Before typing your comments on subjects you are clueless, do a little research 😀
What do pandas eat ?
Wild Panda is filmed eating meat in China
The simple definition of meat is “animal flesh”, and insects/other invertebrates are animals. Technically, the answer to the question “do gorillas eat meat?” is obviously yes.Some people use the term “meat” to describe only vertebrate flesh. Using this definition, the answer is a little less obvious.
Do Gorillas Eat Meat; Are Gorillas Carnivores Or Omnivores?
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You know what a carnivore is right?
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The key word was:
Predator animals
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The Panda is an Ursidae, so the Panda is a sideway of other bears with frontal eyes.
Gorillas are now classified as Pongida, earlier they were Hominidae, also with frontal eyes.
Both animals Pandas and Gorillas developped away from their root families and eat in a different way, but that doesn’t mean they have to change the place of their eyes, and both eat meat, so where is your problem ?
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You are actually making my point. Let’s see if DM disagrees with you.
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Yes! “Tend to be” !!!
Another ellogofusciouhipoppokunurious post by GA.
Go look it up, like you should have done before commenting. Again. 😎
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Up vote just for the “word”
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I think these ratbags are running out of material to frighten the naive and dumb. We have had boiling seas, scorching summers, hottest years everrrrr. This comes after years of preaching freezing earth, new ice age etc. in the 1970’s. Here in Oz we are re-running the early 20th century’s cycle of drought, fires, floods, Australia’s cyclic weather. Probably been like this for as long as the country has existed.
Yet if we turn the page of information we find the greening of our planet, food crops are thriving because of a minute rise in CO2. The fear mongerers don’t want anyone to know these things because it goes against their ‘narrative.’
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Anything goes and goes around again.
Eighteen-Sixty-Four Tipping Point Warns of “Climatic Excess”
“As early as 1864 George Perkins Marsh, sometimes said to be the father of American ecology, warned that the earth was ‘fast becoming an unfit home for its “noblest inhabitant,”’ and that unless men changed their ways etc.
1982: UN Earth near Tipping Point (10 years) see 1989
1983: The seas could rise anywhere from a few feet to more than 10 feet in the next few decades.
1988: Maldives completely under water in 30 years
1911 continue use of coal will cause the earth to heat up.
1922 The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer
1923 Will the North Pole melt entirely?
1939 Scientists warn earth entering new cycle of warmer weather.
1960 New Scientist Dec.1 1960; The world temperature has gone up 1.66℃ in the LAST 100 YEARS.
1970 New Ice Age coming – Kenneth Watt (founder of Earth Day) said that the Earth is cooling and by 1990 the World will be 2.2℃ colder and 6℃ colder in the year 2000
1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life’ Professor T. M. Donahue University of Michigan testifying to Congress.
He said that he and other researchers were not even sure that they had exhausted the inventory of possible horrors that would result…
1974: Another Ice Age — Armadillos moving south
2015: Climate Change — Armadillos moving north
1981: Scientists (including Steven Schneider) warn global warming would see Buckingham Palace 7 feet underwater
1923 Montana Glaciers could disappear by 1948
1952 Montana’s Glacier Park may need new name as glaciers will be gone in 50 years
2009 No more Glaciers in Montana by 2020?
2021 All of the glaciers in Glacier National Park are expected to be gone by 2030
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And you can measure Arctic ice thickness in Wadhams.
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Humans have mostly replaced one type of indigenous bovid ungulate with domesticated ones more suitable for agriculture (e.g. less aggressive, more disease resistant, faster growing etc.)..
Overall, the amount of land devoted to grazing animals is not likely to have changed by a huge amount.
E.g. look at the US. Cows replaced millions of bison.
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In the U.S. The majority of beef is raised in feedlots.
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Feedlot steak is far superior to grass fed .
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Eat a LOT of steak – prefer grass fed.
Lotfed can be produced more consistently.
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We know someone whose guaranteed grass fed beef is shipped to the US for premium prices.
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but the farmland used to grow the feed, used to graze bison
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It will be a referendum on climate change every time someone buys meat.
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Woolworths …
‘Market value thin beef sausages’ cost $6.67 per kilo.
‘Unreal Co Plant Based Beefy Brat Sausages’ cost $18.57 per kilo.
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That stuff is not cheap but that is a false comparison.
They use much the same ingredients to make “plant based beefy scotch fillet steak” (made up name – Veef steak is $20/kg) would you compare them with a meat one at $40/kg?
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Gee Aye,
I know which one I’d rather eat . “Veef” steak is the ultimate processed food and an oxymoron too boot.
Fake is almost never better.
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Great. Let’s instead talk about what food you like.
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Glaciers can be a bit tricky.
Firstly, THEY DO NOT RETREAT.
They do NOT wriggle their war back up the valley they carved , EVER.
Glaciers are DRIVEN by the pressure from the snow-pack in the Neve; (source snow field).
Glaciers primarily melt from UNDERNEATH, due to the effect their own mass has on the “phase” of the ice in contact with the rock below. Fundamentally like a gigantic, inverted ice-skate. When you stand on a glazier, near one of the assorted “moulins”; (holes in the top surface of the ice), the sound of a LOT of running water is quite clear.
Continental “ice-sheets” as per the Ice Ages serious terraforming agent, are related but somewhat larger phenomenon.
So, why might a glacier stop moving downhill?
Let us start with “reduced pressure” from the Neve snow pack. “Ya reckon this might be caused by less snowfall?
Why less snowfall?
Let’s try; less atmospheric moisture. Thus, such a scenario is the probable result of LESS EVAPORATION. This latter phenomenon is usually the direct result of LOWER TEMPERATURES.
So, glaciers exist in a fairly narrow “sweet-spot” of temperature and humidity.
See also; “continental drift”, terrain uplift and other geological phenomena; just for giggles.
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If the veggies want to eat veggie, why do they need to produce pseudo meat, sausages and bacon? Should these products even be labelled as ‘meat’ with meat like names? Ditto for pseudo ‘milks’.
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My daughter invited me to a vegan (or maybe vegetarian) restaurant years ago.
They had all that fake meat made out of vegetable matter.
I couldn’t see anything I wanted to order.
I asked the waitress, “do you have any fake vegetables made out of meat?”
My daughter was like, “Oh Dad!”, and facepalmed.
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As a vegetarian, I’m not looking to replace meat with something trying hard to pretend to be meat. I can only speak for a handful of other vegetarians, and they think the same way.
I think it’s a solution looking for a problem.
I’m not about to tell anyone what they should or shouldn’t eat. Likewise, I’m not a big fan of people who do eat meat making a big song and dance about my dietary choices.
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As a vegetarian, I’m not looking to replace meat with something trying hard to pretend to be meat. I can only speak for a handful of other vegetarians, and they think the same way.
I think it’s a solution looking for a problem.
I’m not about to tell anyone what they should or shouldn’t eat. Likewise, I’m not a big fan of people who do eat meat making a big song and dance about my dietary choices, but for some reason the topic usually garners a passionate response, one way or another.
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There must be some reason so many researchers claim that modern animal farming causes environmental impacts. Whether it has much effect is a different question but as far as I can tell, animal farming does contribute to anthropogenic greenhouse emissions, forest clearing and pollution of waterways. Back in the day, we humans hunted and gathered and our impact was relatively limited (though I suppose the megafauna might disagree). Farming to feed 8 or more billion people is a different story. No wonder agriculture has been called one of the greatest blunders humans have made. Reducing our consumption of animals or making more thoughtful choices around what foods to eat is definitely worthwhile. The vegans are right about that.
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You are right, excess heat of 400,000 Hiroshima bombs per day is in a large part due to too many moo moo’s.
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Graeme,
The reason why researchers are making these claims is because their funding depends on it . We have far bigger problems . We are in the middle of a war which is being fought in the “real” world with military weapons and in the “media” with lies . “Agriculture is the greatest blunder” is absurd.
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Lazy arguments like this are what keeps me coming back. Yeah, the world revolves around the decisions of insecure scientists
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“There must be some reason so many researchers claim that modern animal farming causes environmental impacts.”
Yes, there is money in that research for the researchers… Science is now a “seek and ye shall find” rather than the old “I wonder what happens if I do this…”
“Whether it has much effect is a different question but as far as I can tell, animal farming does contribute to anthropogenic greenhouse emissions, forest clearing and pollution of waterways”
That those emissions from farming contribute to a ‘greenhouse’ effect has yet to be proven.
Forest clearing is not going to add to Co2 content, grass grows faster than trees and gets mown by cows every day.
Pollution is just like weeds in a garden, some people consider it a flower, others say its a weed. The algae feeding on the nitrate see farm runoff as a boon.
We will change some aspects of the world, as do all other living organisms, but we have far more dangerous things to worry about than the hysteria over weather. Our chemicals/processed food/medicines will kill far more people than an extra degree of temperature.
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Stop breathing, stop peeing and clearing the other way around, stop windmills in forrests, then you are on a good way, live your life as good example, now ! 😀
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“There must be some reason so many researchers claim that modern animal farming causes environmental impacts.”
Not if the farm is well managed, preventing cattle from using waterway banks to access water is one, cell grazing is another, a lot has been learned over the years .
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Sure, but when looked at globally, there are plenty of examples of less than good practice, especially in some developing nations. But even in countries like the US animal farming has wide ramifications, especially for the animals themselves. CAFO systems require large quantities of grains etc as feed, manure management is a problem, and waste runoff can be a concern. Also, whether or not there are more or less ruminants on the landscape than there used to be, if the ones we have are contributing to GHG emissions then it’s not unreasonable to propose finding ways to mitigate that, such as seaweed as feed that CSIRO are looking at, or reducing overall consumption.
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Graeme,
Look at what the Dutch farmers have achieved . Wasteful practices in corporate farming abound but most family owned farms can’t afford them . Some farms have methane generators for household gas . Farmers have my admiration as it can be a hard living .
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You seem to be an expert in the creation of manure.
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Yes, and instead of producing grains for food, they produce biofuel for no further rational reason
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Our 160 herd of cows cross the river – tidal towards the nick point – each day, back and forth so thats twice, and hang out in the river when hot, they love it. Been doing it for over 100 years. That’s a pretty long experiment. State of river? Fine, and full of people recreational fishing.
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Millions of birds and small mammals are poisoned and shot every year globally to prevent them from eating crops – fruits, grains, legumes etc. Two fifths of stored grains are eaten by insects and rodents.
Vegetarians and vegans who assume they are saving the planet by not eating meat fail to realise that animals are killed for their benefit and their small corpses are wasted protein.
Current information from my beef cattle breeding relatives: Prices at the farm gate have dropped 75% from this time last year. Feed costs have doubled in price.
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any evidence for this? The V and Vs that I know are very aware of this and make choices to minimise these well known factors.
Does my anecdote beat your unsupported rhetoric?
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There must be some reason so many researchers claim that modern animal farming causes environmental impacts.
It’s the same reason, when you’re looking for a witch to burn. You choose the childless old widow, down by the swamp.
Instead of the wife of the village headman, with the 4 strapping big sons.
Farmers live in low population areas, and are socially and politicaly isolated – Livestock farmers even more so.
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Oh thank you for very much that unsolicited and patronising suggestion.
The vegans are wrong and are the nutty fringe, unless it’s for medical reasons.
Eat what you want, I don’t care, but don’t presume to lecture me about what to eat, as vegetarians and vegans are prone to do.
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Graeme M You clearly have no idea about the carbon cycle on this planet. Livestock for instance do not introduce new carbon into the system they simply recycle what is already there so are already net zero emitters. It’s only when humans access the energy that nature stored for us to use that you will get an increase in available CO2. In any case the C02 so called greenhouse effect is at saturation so adding more will make no noticeable difference. Just like adding a drop of food dye to clear water. You quickly get to the point where adding more drops of dye just makes no observable difference.
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The war against meat is also about the general strategy of the Left to remove pleasurable or convenience products from non-Elites and to lower the overall standard of living of those in Western countries to serf or slave levels.
Do you think Herr Kommandant Klaus Schwab will eat insects or be vegan, or will he eat meat (perhaps some of it human) at his Chancellery? And what will his slave army of useful idiots eat? (A lot of them are already vegan/vegetarian.)
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Peter Dutton, Prime Minister, has just announced his “Charge of The Right Brigade!
https://richardsonpost.com/harryo/33629/peter-dutton-to-be-our-next-pm/
The LNP’s 5-Year Plan should they be elected.
1. Funding of all ‘climate emergency’ Net Zero projects will cease immediately following the election. The Net Zero objective will also be totally abandoned.
2. The money currently being wasted on wind and solar pipe dreams will instead be invested in defence and national security,
3. The money spent on defence and national security will be allocated to practical measures that will add immediate value to Australia’s defence capabilities – not in 10 years when it might be too late!
4. A Royal Commission into Indigenous Funding and Neglect will commence immediately following the election.
The one thing absent from this list seems to be Nuclear Power!
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That’s a great start!
We’ve got thousands of years of coal, gas, and oil.
Who needs nuclear?
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Please explain:
I thought it was true…
Yours in disappointment,
Dave B
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Sorry jo, but as A life long vegetarian i can confirm that vegeburgers are very nice and tasty.
Vegan burgers are another matter as they won’t contain eggs milk or cheese. They are very dull. What with the soya, often from former rain forests, nuts from all corners of the world, almond milk, contributing to droughts in California and other exotic fruit and veg sourced globally they are likely less climate friendly than meat.
If you add in all the ultra processing vegan food often goes through, then the idea of those vegans consuming these products saving the planet is laughable.
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This is all true. It is hard for vegans to avoid ultraprocessed crap and to eat ethically produced protein.
Lots of that land clearing is also supporting palm oil production which is a whole other story.
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Tonyb, no need to say sorry. I was vegetarian for five years. I liked the food. I just wasn’t as healthy.
Some people are cut out to be vegetarians. What do you do for B12?
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I’ll speak for me and the answer might be similar. Eggs and dairy and fortified foods tend to get you more than the recommended intake. e.g milk in cereal, a pot of yoghurt plus cheese or egg is likely at some point in the day without even planning it. Nutritional yeast is a stand-by
Those ultra processed foods that I dissed, fake meat and some tofu are also B12 boosted.
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As much as I love eggs I was astonished to realize I’d need to eat something like 5 eggs a day to cover the RDA, and if I was trying to solve a deficit, even more. One egg = 0.6 µg. Though fabulous for choline.
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Well I guess birds seem to enjoy eating flies. Ugh! But then our avian friends are descendants of the 🦖
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This kind of nonsense makes me want to go out and buy more meat. I buy from a superb butcher/game-dealer who sells the best meat on the planet (in my opinion).
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No it’s true. I have a friend who goes there.
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My local Butcher can’t seem to find those labels when wrapping up the purchased meat for his customers.
Oh dear. No stuck on warning labels to be seen.
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Johnny, Id suggest to your butcher that she/he should make up another label…. “WARNING: Eating meat contributes to a healthier and prosperous life”
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I think we should be able to eat any food we choose. I’m a meat eater, but I also love some fish, vegetables, pasta etc.
We are very closely related to chimps and we now know that they go on monkey hunts because they also enjoy meat and you can watch videos on youtube if you need the proof.
AGAIN we are living in the only period of Human flourishing and the data or proof is very easy to find online.
Our choice of foods today is amazing and we see very few signs of the killer droughts and floods that existed 60 or 100 years ago, when we had a much lower population than the 8 + billion at risk today.
Of course the data also proves we are living in the safest period in Human history and deaths from extreme weather events have dropped by 98% since 1920. And under 2 billion in 1920 and 8 + billion in 2023.
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Indeed.
People think chimps are like “Cheetah” in Tarzan movies. In reality, they are aggressive, powerful, dangerous animals as some former pet owners have discovered.
BTW, chimps don’t only hunt monkeys, they also hunt and eat apes (including chimps), their own kind.
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Another related war against meat, specifically a meat product, is the dramatic increase in the price of eggs, brought about by increased regulations and in the US a seemingly large increase in chicken farm fires. Now, “fact checkers” (sic) claim the apparent increase in chicken farm fires in the US is a “conspiracy theory” and is not true which immediately makes me suspicious that perhaps it is true…
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I can see it coming the sign outside every butchers shop ;
DON’T EAT MEAT
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Or maybe, like cigarette sales points, butchers cannot “display” meat for folks to see.
So you have to know what you want and ask for it.
Nothing to tempt the fragile mind …
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And what about the Fishmonger’s Shop or the ‘Chippy’? If I can’t get my Fish and Chips there will a reckoning with the UN and the Guv’ment.
I will just have to be a rebel and protest most strongly. They won’t hear the last of it.
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Meanwhile at COP28…
Food waste consumption? Did you notice that?
Yes, boys and girls. The Elites want us to eat food waste from the trash.
Well, they already do that in China. Gulag “gutter oil” without quotes. Be prepared to see some stomach wrenching videos so do it on an empty stomach.
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The menu for the faithful attendees would be interesting as I doubt it will be vegetarian, as has been the case at other COPs.
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“One group saw a warning label beneath the meat option depicting a deforested area and the phrase “eating meat contributes to climate change”. “. Then a photo of a forest of wind turbines or “as far as the eye can see” solar stupidity, must make them positively apoplectic. It’s very worrying that intelligence and ability to think is allowed to take such a back seat when people are put in public positions. ToM
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I have always wondered how all these extra bugs are meant to be produced to sate the anti-meat menu.
I grew up on a farm and the most bugs explode in population when it is warm and moist. If you live in Melbourne warm and moist only happens for up to 4 months of the year, so how are these bugs going to be bred to feed the lefty masses in Victoria (ex-VICDanistan now Allanland).
I expect that hot houses similar to gas fired heating and CO2 enriched air circulating throughout as the Dutch use to grow vegetables in cold climates will be necessary.
Hmm not sure that this would really fulfill the agenda of the insect obsessed to appease their climate gods. Well maybe one small sacrifice is OK (or is it hypocrisy)!
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Just a reminder …
there are no cave paintings of salads.
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Excellent!
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I did see one painting depicting a tribe bringing down a Tofusaurus
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Luckily we have much more food and a wider range to choose from today.
But during the colder LIA they resorted to burning Witches in Europe in large numbers because of the failure of crops and with little food to eat.
The Pope encouraged this lunacy and many elderly, lonely women were tortured and then roasted alive to try and improve the weather and crops.
Thousands across Europe lost their lives until the climate stated to warm about 300 years ago.
Yet the Pope today is also a very enthusiastic supporter of the UN dictates on our so called terrible climate and he supports and encourages the liars and con merchants as often as he can.
Just amazing that he supports their BS and FRAUD and does this during the greatest period of Human FLOURISHING in recorded history.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/11/02/witch-hunts-correlate-with-climate/
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Then there the the other big technology development just over the horizon, lab grown meat. But I would assume lab grown meat would a reliable energy source
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It merely confirms the findings that IQ is dropping with every generation.
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It sure is KP, as an ex mechanic, let me quote from owners manuals 60 years apart, 1963, the manual walks you through adjusting the engine valve clearances, 2023, manual tells you to not drink the battery acid.
If that isn’t tacit proof of loss of IQ, I don’t know what is.
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yep. Cars back then were a nightmare to maintain compared with now.
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Indeed, cars were so hard to maintain that with a regular manual and the right tools, an owner could make his/her own repairs.
It was instructive to watch my big brother remove, dismantle, and reassemble entire engines successfully, replacing piston rings and other parts along the way, resetting tensions correctly, refitting the engine and correctly connecting up all the necessary cooling, electrical, aspiration, fuel etc. systems, thus restoring the engines and vehicles to full function again. Just one man, a manual, and the right tools – imagine that!
Now, we’re dependent upon a baulky computer to flash up “warnings” on the display telling us to go and consult the dealership where the mechanic will plug in a diagnostic computer and be told what part to replace – all at great expense.
Another great leap forward is when one of those baulky computers decides something is “wrong” with your vehicle, and decides to back right off to walking pace in the middle of a stream of traffic, or while overtaking another vehicle. Yeah, that really improves safety! We than wait on the side of the road for the tow truck to collect us to take us to the dealership to have the diagnostic computer plugged in etc.
Having a “kill switch” on board that gives an external entity ultimate control of your ability to even use your own property has to be yet another advance.
Not all “progress” equals actual advance.
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I know which car I’d rather be driving.
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Just wait for your choice to catch fire, unable to be put out , pouring out toxic smoke and creating real problems rather than fairy tale make believe ones…
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F100 351 engine C6 auto 9″ diff that’s the best
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“We than wait on the side of the road for the tow truck to collect us to take us to the dealership to have the diagnostic computer plugged in etc.”
Waiting by the side of a 110kmh highway can result in you departing this life, some nong is likely to drive right into you.
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Gee Aye cars back then had the valve clearance gap in the manual, cars today the manual says don’t drink the battery acid !
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They aren’t worth the degree they got (as gift ?)
In earlier times the universities were places to learn s.th. meaningful.
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It’s going to take a lot more than a dumb warning to stop me eating and enjoying a steak.
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If I go to the supermarket to buy meat at the wrong time ( between deliveries) there is very often a limited number of choices. But every time the plant based false meat section is always full. So, I assume most people are ignoring the false meat products. But, I’m wondering how many customers then choose a plant based meat product because their favourite lamb roast wasn’t available?
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they are not going to stock something no one wants so your assumption is unlikely true. I peruse those shelves a lot for the obvious reason and I don’t see them always fully stocked. My anecdote wins.
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Old Leafy’s in a bad mood today. This story must be a bit close to the bone.
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I just don’t see people walking around with packets of meat in their handbags or top pocket so they can grab lumps for a quick bite.
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Beef jerky?
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Take a look at beef jerky,
it exactly fills the need you describe.
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For those eschatologists looking for a sign of End Times this one is indicative.
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I am a member of PETA. People who Eat Tasty Animals.
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THat’s PWETA though
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People Eating Tasty Animals. ?
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that’s beta
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Yes, it is better.
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I am Bacterian. I only eat protein substrates fermented by bacteria. Yogurt, beans fermented by Bacillus Subtilis or Natto, various alcoholic fermentation’s and so on 🙂
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I’m with you on the various alcoholic fermentations.
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Sorry, I read that as Bactrian.
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Hi GreatAuntJanet…Hmm….it is a fairly new classification. Help with editing is very welcome.
Maybe microorganismian, or ‘one who exclusively eats microorganisms and the products of their existence..
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The issue is NEVER the issue.
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I saw an ad on TV last night for pet food for dogs. They showed the various offerings on the labels of the cans. Beef, kangaroo, lamb, etc, etc, etc. All meat. Given there are about 5 billion pet dogs on the planet, maybe it’s time for the lefty lunatics to start calling for a ban on pet dogs and cats.
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Don’t give the ratbags any ideas!
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Believe me, I have seen ridiculous articles proposing just that.
I work in the petfood area, and the petfood industry processes large amounts of waste into usable nutritious products. What tip would take thousands of tonnes of rotting meat by products….?
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What concerns me are the comments made by Chalmers the other day, that their plan to reach renewable utopia may not be achievable without ‘more robust interventions from government’ – I take that to mean that sooner or later, you’ll have an extra carbon tax on your electric/gas bills.
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Blackouts.
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So we all stop eating meat because the herbivores from which our meat comes emit methane which is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2, thereby contributing to the stopping of climate change.
But what happens when that doesn’t work, ie, climate change doesn’t stop?
One solution would be to do surveys to determine the number of wild carnivores in the world, then do computer models to calculate how many herbivores are required to feed the carnivores, then get rid of the “surplus” herbivores, thereby eliminating another source of greenhouse gas. Or just reduce the populations of wild carnivores then the number of herbivores can also be reduced.
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no. That is not one solution.
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This rubbish about raising livestock and meat eating = bad for the environment, has been debunked more than once.
There are videos about it on YouTube.
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I came here to point this out.
It looks like some don’t get what you are parodying.
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If they keep this rubbish up, I’ll even start buying smokes again. Might not smoke them, but still…
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WARNING! Eating meat will provide quality nutrition, NOT affect the climate, and will thwart the WEF’s totalitarian plans.
EAT MORE MEAT!😁
More bacon (is there ever enough?), more juicy, succulent, tender, juice-dripping beef, chicken, ham, and more!
Or bugs.
You choose.
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The image depicted below the warning is not climate change, but of slash and burn land clearing, possibly in Brazil. You can see the sawn off stumps in the foreground. This add should be tagged as misinformation under the government new regulations because it’s not depicting what it claims and it’s not relevant for Australia anyway. We don’t use slash and burn clearing and all of our cattle head are sustainably managed.
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I thought it was a pic after the Battle of the Somme.
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Apart from my usual fare of uncounted ‘mystery bags’, steaks and chops I’ve eaten exotic meat like horse in Holland and dog (bulldogi) in Korea. I saw no measurable effect on the climate.
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When the U.N. warns about heat,
They like to blame those who eat meat,
Then they call the W.H.O. in,
To make meat a health sin,
For us mortals but not the elite.
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I have warned in the past and I will warn again…
Eat these plant based meat products at your peril. Already in the petfood area it is widely known that high levels of various of these vegetable based ingredients cause cardio myopathy in dogs, and other health issues.
Yet we have no testing whatsoever to check if the same issues will happen with humans. Its an almost certain bet they will, but, like the vaxxes, crony capitalists and stupid activists will push us into this and large numbers of deaths and maimings will occur. Remember “safe and effective”? More lies on the way.
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We’re carnivores and only buy our (grass fed) meat from a local butcher and a local farm shop, so get no labels on our meat.
I will mention in passing that we adopted this diet some four years ago, and it seems that it has stopped my wife’s “terminal” (courtesy of the NHS) bone cancer in its tracks. Feel free to ask…
They take my red meat off over my dead body. Wish I’d known about this diet when I was 21. 72, feel 50 at the oldest. And lost 20lbs of visceral fat in 6 weeks once we went carni.
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Right now (re: foreign exchange crisis) might be a good time to travel to Argentina to sample some of the world’s best steaks….
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Argentinian steak cattle are predominantly fed on las pampas grass, which is not only good for their overall health but also gives them more omega-3 fatty acids. This gives Argentine steak a delicious flavour and lean texture making it a popular choice amongst steak lovers.
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from argentina dot org dot au
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From that pucture, looks to me like chainsaws killed the forest; now we/re being blamed.
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