Australian government throws giant pile of money at renewables — so big, the cost is a secret

Treasure Chest of glowing gold.

By Jo Nova

The Australian Government is building magical weather machines with large amounts of our children’s money, and they won’t even tell us what it will cost. Dear Sir, we’re here to fix the car you didn’t know was broken, give us your wallet? We’ll just help ourselves to your cash and won’t tell you what this costs, OK? (It must cost a fortune, because if it were cheap we’d tell you).

The Labor government promised impossible Net Zero things, and 18 months later everyone knows it is impossible. Renewable investment has ground to a halt, people are not buying EV’s,  farmers don’t want the transmission lines, coastal towns don’t want the wind towers, project costs are doubling and tripling, and Florence the borer is still stuck in a very short hole that is meant to be a long one.

Instead of backing away slowly, the Labor Party have gone full Santa-wish-fairy.

Just like that — the plan for 6 gigawatts of unreliable generators will become 7, wait, I mean, 32 gigawatts. Wow.

The Australian grid uses about 30 gigawatts of generation, and already has 65 gigawatts of equipment to generate that. It took three generations to build and pay off, but we’re adding 32 GW this decade….

Chris Bowen gambles with taxpayers’ cash to hit renewables target

Geoff Chambers, The Australian

Taxpayers will underwrite a five-fold increase in new government-backed renewables capacity across Australia, as Chris Bowen gambles on a dramatic market intervention to secure grid reliability and achieve Labor’s ambitious target of 82 per cent renewables by 2030.

If the market won’t build crazy loss-making unreliable generation machines, the government will.

They force us to pay, but they can’t even tell us what it costs:

The program will be expanded from its initial mandate to underwrite 6 gigawatts of renewable energy projects to 32GW, with the cost to taxpayers being kept secret under commercial-in-confidence provisions.

And before you object to whale-killing, wedgetail-eagle-whacking and mowing down of forests, we’ll just clear out red tape for massive industrial projects:

Mr Bowen will also strike deals with states and territories to fast-track major renewables projects.

Is this the part where the Greens realize what a monster they have created?

All this money, so they can impress their friends with private jets at the UN:

Ahead of attending the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Dubai, Mr Bowen said the government was taking unprecedented action on renewables to avoid blackouts and energy price rises as coal generators shut down.

The new scheme is called the Capacity Investment Scheme. The government is  now your financial advisor, and they are picking winners. Be afraid.

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125 comments to Australian government throws giant pile of money at renewables — so big, the cost is a secret

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    Bruce

    As always:

    Follow the money!

    Especially the “spillage”.

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      Mantaray

      Bruce. If someone emptied a large chest of gold coins, and fiat-currency notes out a window….you’d know they were crazy….but YOU would also have to be mad not to scoop up a handful of the treasure.

      What I’m suggesting is to take advantage of the stupidity: if you can, and while it lasts!

      I won’t recommend specific strategies, but just say to give plenty of thought to who benefits from all this nonsense, and if you can: “get a piece of the action”. Kerry Packer only got one Alan Bond, and WE’LL only get one Chris Bowen, eh what?

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        Earl

        Understand the logic and if you can accumulate the readies to afford “fine cotton” clothes go for it however you are dealing with a power greater than the mafia here – the Australian guvment and a labor one at that with an Italian prime mincer. They will stop you from improving your finances any way they can with the extra tax on super funds with more than $3m just the latest example.

        Got a letter from my city council (nb city council) this week informing me that Centrelink had informed them that I was not receiving the maximum rate of pension and therefore because of my lower pension my rate rebate was going to be reduced. Apparently you only get the maximum if you are on the maximum. While retirement qualified the wife is working part-time for a small local clothing shop because she isn’t ready to just stop.

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    Lawrie

    What an idiot and we are stuck with him for another 18 months at least. How much more damage can he do? Lots is the answer. I wonder how those pseudo scientists feel now ? Where are the engineers who know this is rubbish but continue to keep quiet as their grandchildren’s futures are being squandered by this ignorant ideologue. He is actively ensuring that Australia will not be a manufacturing country and we will be unable to build the defence equipment we so desperately need. The wealth he is wasting would build enough reliable power generation to provide us with cheap energy for the next 60 years without the need to build extensive transmission lines. Where are you Peter Dutton?

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      Gerard Basten

      Hear, hear. Where is the Institution of Engineers on all this? Have they become part of the woke brigade? A reading of their monthly magazine “Create” may give a few clues.

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        John B

        Institution of Engineers, now called Engineers Australia.
        “Our work on climate change is guided by our Climate Change Position Statement. Our position statement supports rapid and wide ranging action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to net zero and adapt to the changing climate.2 Aug 2023”
        A quick look at the executive team (very few actual engineers) shows you are correct to assume that they are part of the woke brigade.

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          Ronin

          There’s the reason we don’t hear any pushback on these crazy schemes.

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          melbourne+resident

          Yep – I think the people who are real engineers need to get a life and sort out their board

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          PeterPetrum

          You are absolutely correct! Very few with any engineering qualification and several with “green” experience elsewhere.

          We are totally stuffed!.

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          Russell

          So “the long march through institutions” grabbed another corrupt move into social politics.
          And their first trick was to remove the word “institution” from the organisation’s title many years ago.
          This enabled professional standards to gradually drop and the appointment of non-engineers to ALL exec positions.
          Of course they tried to make it all CPD-based to mimic the medical/law/accounting approach to “staying current”.
          But then, the development courses are mostly about social/fuzzy stuff with very little technical engineering content.
          Naturally the CC rubbish got legs in so many CPD opportunities that all our poor young engineers have to attend.
          They are so indoctrinated like school children – forgive them – they know no better …
          No original engineering, no innovation, no cost consciousness, no can-do attitude … technicians at best.
          Asian/Indian engineers are miles ahead in technical skill and engineering assessment capability.

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            Lawrie

            That is so disappointing to hear Russell. I began engineering but instead preferred the Army and farming. One thing those professions have in common is the necessity to deal with facts, the reality of what is happening around you. There is no room for dreaming, wishing and hoping does not replace good farming practice nor stop a determined enemy. I don’t and can’t understand how an engineer can possibly agree with Bowen’s mad ideas without losing their integrity. Could such an engineer ever be employed in a process that demands accuracy and reality?

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        Ronin

        Just looking at the exec team, straight out of the ABC ‘Utopia’.

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        Saighdear

        In a nutshell, probably YES, in that they are der fuhrer’s soldiers. Same problem in the UK with our Engineering ( & Professional, at that IMHO ) Instit’…. ( some are ‘utes, others are ‘utions) and the Tech Magazines.

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        Alex

        The British one had gone rogue years ago.

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          Steve

          Spot on Alex. The UK IET is more concerned with diversity and equality than engineering. In my long career I never came across prejudice or bias based on sex or colour only a bias against f*ckin idiots. No wonder a large proportion of projects go over budget and over time. All the real engineering nowadays appears to be carried out in places like China and Russia. The West has had its day.

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            Yes, my then boss took me to an IME meeting in London in 1972 to hear a presentation on the new “Mag Lev” technology that was going to take over public transportation .
            I was so impressed by the crevat wearing masses, that i vowed NEVER to become a member of that institution !

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      robert rosicka

      “How much more damage can he do?”

      Challenge accepted!

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        David Maddison

        We ain’t seen nothin’ yet!

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        I doubt I have ever seen a more wilfully stupid person than Chris Bowen. He is so ignorant he has no idea that he is a complete moron.

        I think he remains in parliament so the rest of the Labor Green alliance have a village idiot they can compare adequately against.

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          Ted1.

          Have you forgotten that the ALP subscribe to Marxist philosophy?

          Their leading objective is to destroy capitalism. Their modus operandi is to destroy capital.

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      Mike

      It appears Australia, Canada and the US are the finalists in the most incompetent leader Olympics this year. Adding all 3 IQs together would be under 200.

      It’s like watching a Monty Python skit that actually destroys lives.

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      Sommer

      After following the situation in Australia since connecting with the Waubra Foundation 8 years ago, I’ve concluded that Australians desperately need help.

      https://stopthesethings.com/2023/11/25/voters-reject-net-zero-madness-wind-solar-transition-faces-serious-opposition/

      What can be done for them?
      Ontario needs help also.

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    Neville

    It sounds like a repeat of one of the Communist’s mad 5 year plans that always ended in grief and we’ve got the barking mad Bowen and Albo in charge.
    Strange thing is that China, India and developing countries are building hundreds of new BASE-LOAD Coal power stations, because they want 24/7 power and not the TOXIC, UNRELIABLE and disastrous W & S lunacy.

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      Geoffrey Williams

      History will judge us, and at some time in the future people will look back and realise how foolish this net zero government of Australia really is. And how smart is the Chinese communist party pursuing energy policies that actually benefit the people . .

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        RicDre

        “And how smart is the Chinese communist party pursuing energy policies that actually benefit the people.”

        Benefit the people? If true, it’s purely by accident as the last thing the CCP cares about is the quality of life of the Chinese people.

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          Exactly RicDre — all that coal power in China, which copies Western Technology, is used to make EV’s that sit rotting in paddocks, apartments no one wants to live in, and the largest navy in the world.

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            Geoffrey Williams

            RicDre, what a pathetic critique of the Chinese success story! ‘if true, it’s purely by accident . . .’ by accident?! Explain the accident if you can !!
            Are you actually denying that the Chinese people are happy? I was in China only a few years ago and the people I met and saw going about their daily work were perfectly happy. And by the way have you been there?
            And if their policies are not to benefit the people,then explain what exactly is their purpose of creating a successful energy sector?
            I think that you are just another China basher!!

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              RicDre

              The CCP’s policies are designed to keep the CCP in power and enrich the CCP. Those policies exist to further that goal, not to help the people.

              Jo’s example is one case of many of the policies of the CCP allowing people connected to the CCP to build EVs which were never intended to be sold, but were instead created to skim off governments subsidies after which they park the cars in lots to rot.

              You might also want to look into CCP policies that allowed companies to presell homes before they were built then allowed that money to go into buying more land and presell more homes without any requirement to finish the earlier home they presold. And now that this Ponzi scheme is collapsing, the poor people stuck holding the bag have no legal recourse and must continue to pay their mortgage even if they never receive their homes. (See Evergrande, Country Garden, etc.).

              Or the case of the towns flooded by the CCP with out warning the people in the way of the floods in order minimize the flooding in Beijing and Xiongan.

              Or the CCP solving the youth unemployment problem (last reported by the CCP as just over 20%) by ending the reporting of the youth unemployment rate.

              I could go on, but instead I suggest you might want to view a few episodes of The China Show (https://www.youtube.com/@TheChinaShow/videos) which is produced by two people who lived in China for years and have first hand experience on how the CCP treats its people.

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                Geoffrey Williams

                RicDre, government policies used to keep themselves in power? Of course, just like Western countries. Tell me of a country/government that doesn’t try to keep themselves in power. Look at the last election in the U.S.A. Democracy in action ?

                And skimming off ‘government subsidies’ sounds familiar, just consider the renewable industry/wind farm industry in Australia and indeed around the world.

                Affordable homes, now that’s a good one. How about Australia for nice cheap homes for the poor. Housing shortfall in tens of thousands.

                ‘Flooded homes’ well we know all about that here in Australia don’t you read the news? Governments and councils have been selling land in flood prone areas for decades now. And all the false promises of compensation!

                Finally, one has to admit that youth unemployment is a problem throughout the world in both rich and poor countries. Lots of reasons for that.

                Bottom line is that you do not like China because it is a successful, communist country. If you do not like communism then of course that is your prerogative. But consider the alternatives . .

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                RicDre

                China is a successful communist country by implementing Capitalism? Of course, under Xi Jinping the CCP is cracking down on those capitalistic tendency and so its economy is now slowly failing and the CCP seems unable to do anything to fix it. Its clear you like communism no mater how big a failure it is, but consider the alternatives…

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            Geoffrey Williams

            Jo, you really must stop China bashing !!
            In the first 9 months of this year your fellow Australians bought more than 145,000 Chinese vehicles. If that is not a success story, tell me what is . .

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              Sceptical+Sam

              Just remind me about the Uighurs would you Geoffrey.

              And while you’re at it give me an update on the Falun Gong.

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                Geoffrey Williams

                Xinjiang is one sixth the total area of China. And with a population of about 25 million, half of them Uighers. Wouldn’t the west, especially Uncle Sam love to get it’s hands on Xinjiang. (Think of all the MacDonalds), but the Chinese (population 1.4 billion) won’t be having any of that thank you . .

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                Sceptical+Sam

                That’s not an answer.

                That’s just more CCP propaganda.

                Address your delusion:

                https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037

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                Success is not “145,000 cars” (especially not ones that aren’t as good as cheaper older ones we already own.)

                Success is living in a country where I can criticize the government every day and not lie in bed waiting for the secret police to take me away so they can steal my kidneys. Do you earn social credit points for comments like #3.1.1.1.1 where you ignore the question and post CCP talking points?

                PS: This has all gone far off topic.

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              Sceptical+Sam

              While you’re at it perhaps you could give us an update on the CCP’s sensitive treatment of the Kazakhs, and other Turkic minorities.

              The Great Chinese Firewall.

              The treatment of Roman Catholics.

              The students and others at Tiananmen Square.

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              Alex

              Chinese products suck. They can copy the shape and the design but not the quality. Major international firms have abandoned or are abandoning Xi Jinping’s China for many reasons. Rumours of war are one of them.

              Having realized that warmongering is hurting China’s economy and therefore him personally, Xi took a flight to the US to meet his best friend there, a certain Mr. Joe Biden, who signed an agreement with Xi that says that both countries agreed not to use AI in military assets. In 1939 Neville Chamberlain signed a peace agreement with a certain Mr. Hitler…….

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            Steve

            Take the blinkers off, China is one great success story. And, why people blame them we fester and rot from within while our ‘democratically’ elected governments sell out our countries and peoples. It’s the US led poodle governments that deserve the bile, they are the problem, they are our problem.
            Seems to me that Australia should look at the stars and see where the world is going and leverage cooperation with one of it’s nearest trading partners, rather than getting into bed with a dying hegemony run by a senile old fart and his war mongers. The west’s current trajectory is downwards.

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              Yes, China is “one great success” for President Xi, his family and friends of the communist party. Not so good for Christians, Falun Gung, Uyghers, women forced to have late term abortions, or political prisoners who disappear and get their organs harvested.

              Chinese doctors admitted in undercover calls that harvested organs were available, informal tribunal finds.

              “Poodle dog” is a very Chinese expression. Do you live there, or just read the party propaganda?

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              DOC

              China will buy your rock lobsters – but only if you keep desisting from complaining about how we’ve treated your navy.

              Steve loves being an obedient lapdog. Don’t forget Steve, if you don’t follow the Party line you get ‘disappeared’; either sent to a reeducation ‘school’, or you get ‘disappeared’ permanently. You don’t have a choice over who becomes the national leader, nor figure in what he/she does. You may become slave labour yourself if your leader so decides. Get COVID-19 and have yourself shut behind welded up steel doors.

              Of course, you could become a member of the ruling CCP, but even that guarantees you little. Wasn’t a very recent foreign minister or some such recently arrested on camera (as seen on our TV) during a sitting of the CCP got ‘escorted’ out and not seen again.

              Democracy ain’t perfect, but was it Churchill who said, ‘It beats all the rest’.

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              Alex

              So you want to solve the West’s problem, our problem, by appeasing the rabid hungry tiger more and more?

              There was a young lady of Riga
              Who went for a ride on a tiger
              They returned from the ride
              With the lady inside
              And a smile on the face of the tiger…

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      Ronin

      “It sounds like a repeat of one of the Communist’s mad 5 year plans that always ended in grief and we’ve got the barking mad Bowen and Albo in charge.”

      Great Leap Forward comes to mind.

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    Dave of Gold Coast, Qld.

    How anyone voted these mindless morons in is beyond me. They made this dangerous promise before the election, why are Australians so thick headed and naive to believe destroying the economy and and the environment is going to save us is beyond comprehension. Anyone who thinks wind and solar are going to save anything Australian is childish but it certainly will help the Chinese economy. I guess climate madness has no cure.

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      Ando

      Only a third of the people voted for the alp. Certainly not a mandate to wreck the nation with this insanity.

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        Adellad

        I think 12% voted “Green” and more voted Teal – plus plenty in the Liberal Party believe this tripe and it’s only getting worse. What hope is there?

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      Mike Jonas

      The last election was about removing Scott Morrison. Albo benefited. The next election will be about the removal of Albo. Democracies don’t so much put in those they want, they remove those they don’t want any more. Democracy may be imperfect, but it really is better than anything else.

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      PeterPetrum

      Indeed, Dave. Led on by my Daughter (now married into a left wing family and totally converted) my three grandsons, all of voting age, voted for a Teal in a previous Liberal seat in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney. Their actions helped Labor win the election and, unfortunately, they will be paying the price for much of their lives. Efforts that their Gran and I have made to persuade them to look at any subject from any other perspective have been rebuffed, nicely, but firmly.

      We can only do so much and we will not be around to help them. It makes me sad.

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        Lawrie

        I have been fortunate in that regard having three living children who all appreciate business, hard work and common sense. I don’t know any people in private enterprise who believe in climate change. They all do know that the socialists are trying to destroy the country and everyone in it. Those who vote left should read the history of the Russian Revolution. It doesn’t matter how much you wave the socialist banner you are still vulnerable. You might survive a little longer but they will destroy you in the end.

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        Ted1.

        Breaking it down to a more fundamental level:

        Why do young people have to make the same mistakes that we did?

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        Alex

        Look at the schools and their teachers. Most probably they’re left-wing, woke, anti-Christian etc etc.

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      DOC

      Agree with your comment, BUT… The problem is the propaganda and directional guidance in our education system. Little interest in maths and true science; that’s how the argument to shut down science-based debates on the climate and global warming has been so successful. To even try to argue against opinion-based science ie science as our politicians and bureaucrats wish it to be, is to lose career and reputation and face exclusion from society. Anyone 40-45 and younger have been taught in this system. Also learned is, if you want a career in the systems run by environmental and wokist ideas activists, you don’t upset the applecart with contrarian fact based opinions.

      The effectiveness of such propaganda and teaching, the violence enforcing its acceptance has been known throughout history. ‘MIndless morons’ is the wrong description. It’s the outcome of innocent empty brains put to schooling to learn the creed of and by activists. They know exactly what they are doing. ‘Brain washing’ was the old term. The old method that has withstood the test of time. Remove any right to debate an alternative. The ME is full of the same predjudice as had Christianity in its Dark Ages. We ‘old codges’ know the system and currently the activists hope that knowledge dies with us.

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    Neville

    According to Net ZERO Australia the cost will be up to 1.5 TRILLION $ by 2030 and up to 9 TRILLION $ by 2060.
    Of course these starter kits will be torn down and replaced every 15 to 20 years and 10,000 klms of new towers, cables ,lines etc will have to be built to connect us to this TOXIC UNRELIABLE grid.
    Why do we have to suffer the ongoing environmental cost and loss of birds, animals, habitat etc ONSHORE and the same OFFSHORE for the Whales, Dolphins etc because the Labor and Greens are too stupid to understand the DATA and EVIDENCE?

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    Macspee

    It is about time something is done about ‘commercial in confidence’ that exists to protect parties from disclosure of dubious and extortionate contracts. What started as a protection of competition has morphed into a protection of cronies.

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      garry b

      Crony capitalism in action, with the productive populace the victims. When a spendthrift regime borrows money in pursuit of their fantasies, where is the moral imperative for the incoming government to make repayments of interest/capital? Is it not time for predatory lenders to irresponsible regimes, to pay the price for their irresponsible lending? Just renege/cancel the repayments-in part, or fully. Unless we can control the borrowing, Australia will continue on this cycle.
      Short term it will be turbulent, but eventually the ponzi scheme ends. “Commercial in Confidence” is part of the process by which the “elites” pillage Australians, and drive us into debt.
      Once the credit rating for Australia is low, lenders will not lend cash again.

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      Graham Palmer

      YouTube Video: The Green Energy Bubble Has Finally Burst 🔥🔥💰💰

      If you are interested in more details and a detailed video explanation, go to YouTube the “Wall Street Millennial”.

      It is a site that discusses the larger acts of fraud committed by Wall Street and others and has just done a video on the collapse of investment in renewables and the cancellation of projects worth billions.

      Green renewables were only ok when interest rates and material costs were low but that is no longer the case.

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        Gerry, England

        No, green renewables were always uneconomic in the absence of viable storage and only existed because of taxpayer cash. The rise of inflation and interest rates has just exposed the flaws quite clearly. Because renewables – except for hydro in most cases – are unpredictably unreliable you therefore need a complete backup system which results in building two sets of generating plant which both have poor utilisation. And as for labelling this as ‘investment’ – well, investors are leaving the green sector in droves because it is such a poor investment.

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      GreatAuntJanet

      Absolutely, commercial in confidence is a deliberate murking of decisions made by authorities. Our local council has sinister black redactions all over the minutes, regarding the awarding of tenders (how they decided). It means the taxpayers don’t get to stickybeak the councillors’ fingering pies.

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      Tel

      It’s already illegal … all monies must be appropriated via Parliament.

      Chapter IV, 81: No money shall be drawn from the Treasury of the Commonwealth except under appropriation made by law.

      Since Acts of Parliament cannot be secret, and thus laws cannot be secret … therefore secretive spending is never legal.

      The hard part is to get enough people to read our Constitution and demand enforcement!!!

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    Geoff

    Free money is ON, 32 GW of batteries or equivalent to Eastern seaboard power use for one hour. Obviously needed to keep the grid voltage stable. Nothing to do with backup. All about making rooftop solar despatchable. Will cost about the same as replacing ALL the coal fired power stations. So best not to reveal that and hope rooftop solar can solve the problem with zero power prices which battery bankers can “buy” and sell to users at motsa profit guaranteed by guv. Tax every household to get the money by raping any electricity user with no “despatchable” roof. To bad if you lease a building.

    Big super + Battery = Screw Poor People and any business that makes anything.

    I see a new business selling your roof. Sure to get bank finance and guv approval.

    Going to have to upgrade every cities power lines. They were not designed for this. So my estimate on the cost may be out by many orders to make this new eClimate system deliverable. But then again who said it had to actually work? Its political power not actual electricity.

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    david

    Institute of Engineers? More like Institute of Beginners. Apologies to my late father who built useful things like dams (7) and power stations. That’s why I studied Geology and Geophysics.

    And now these clowns think they can control the weather of the planet with these hair-brained schemes.

    Where is Peter Dutton!

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      David Maddison

      Where is Peter Dutton!

      He would be only slightly less bad.

      He believes in the anthropogenic global warming fraud hence his promotion of nuclear power.

      I have no problem with nuclear power, but the choice between coal and nuclear power stations for any given situation should be decided by the market alone.

      Dutton also knows that in today’s “can’t do” Australia, there is absolutely no chance of a nuclear power station being built within the lifetime of anyone alive today so he doesn’t have to worry about protests from the anti-energy lobby.

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        wal1957

        Dutton also said that he wanted to build nuclear as a “back up” for renewables!
        How insane is that?
        If you are going to build nuclear you don’t need renewables!
        Dutton is another dud.

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        DOC

        The system won’t change until a leader comes along that willingly calls out the false science. Add rebuttal against all the woke ideas that are being used to divide and rule. We are now too polite and or timid to actually confront all this stuff being used to destroy us. Until a movement arises that is forceful enough and fronted by people who know what is truth, what the freedom of true science brings, Australia and the Western Judeo-Christian societies are due to wither. Trump gave us hope but unfortunately a single man can only do so much. He is confronted by the very forces that have led us to the current position. It requires a huge 180 degree change in belief and direction. It will involve the destruction of the reputations and positions of many powerful, grossly wealthy people that are forcing the West to become what they want it to be.

        We don’t need one Trump. We need a hundred or a thousand to lead us out of the quagmire. The possible saving grace is, the bigger class ie middle class of western societies is hurting financially and emotionally. Under current management, that will only get worse and worse. That will open people’s minds to rejecting current extremist opinions by debate on any topic that will alleviate their pain and force social change that promises them a better life than the socialist disaster the West had avoided for so long until now. Governance by politicians that ignore the plight of their own people but obey the demands from their own elitist groups or from international bodies over whom we have no control, must eventually fail. It surely can’t be long before that position s reached.

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          David Maddison

          We’ll said DOC. I posted this the other day. It sums things up nicely.

          The following video by Laura Aboli is the best summary I’ve heard of what the Elites and their vast slave army of useful idiots of the Left are doing and intend to do to us (4 mins).

          https://youtu.be/B3VPLIIWC_0

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    David Maddison

    Australia, as Chris Bowen gambles on a dramatic market intervention

    Bowen you imbecilic simpleton, I did not give you permission to gamble with my hard-earned taxes.

    I use the term imbecile for its original 19th century medical meaning:

    The noun imbecile is used informally as an insult to mean “fool”. Its origins are in the Latin word imbecille, “weak or feeble,” and it was an official medical term for people with a specific (and low) I.Q. in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Patients who were classified as imbeciles were said to have no more intelligence than a seven year-old child.
    https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/imbecile

    And I am being generous!

    As I reported on this blog a few weeks ago, I went to the Lake Goldsmith Steam Rally along with my neighbour and his young kids. That area is infested with 149 windmills of the Stockyard Hill Wind Subsidy Farm, owned 51% by China and 49% by Qatar.

    I explained to two of the kids, five and six years old that their supposed purpose was to generate electricity from wind to which they both responded “but how can they make electricity when there’s no wind?”.

    A five and six year old understand, the imbecile Bowen does not. Forget about the intelligence of a seven year old as per the definition. He is not as smart as the aforementioned five and six year olds.

    (Note that the kids have smart, involved parents and they go to a non-government family-oriented religious school, hence the lack of Marxist indoctrination of the kids.)

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      Surftilidie

      Bowen is an ultracrepidarian. Albanese is a midwit.

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      Gerry, England

      I think the definition of ‘investment’ must have changed in left-wing world dictionaries as in my view it is just pissing other people’s money away on the wind.

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    How about we send Chris Bowen to China to implement NetZero. He would phase-out China’s coal and nulcear generated power to comply with his NetZero duties to the UN. Would the politburo of the CCP go all luvvy duvvy for Chris Bowen like we Aussies do?

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    David Maddison

    Even if we got a science, reason and freedom oriented government such as one comprised of United Australia Party, Liberal Democrats and One Nation, the disaster does not end there.

    By design, exiting from this “renewables” (sic) disaster would be hugely expensive. And even if we could afford to exit from renewables, we would have to embark on a massive construction program of coal and nuclear power stations. Not gas because Howard gave most of that to the Chicomms and gas exploration is banned in much of the country. It would take a long time to find more.

    And unless the feral unions can be bought under control, a coal power station that takes the Chicomms 18 months to 2 years to build would probably take 15 years in Australia, maybe more getting through all the green tape. And of course, there will be the usual union corruption and kickbacks.

    Short of invoking the “nuclear option” of invoking Force majeure to exit from renewables plus contracting Chicomms to build us power stations (with military protection to keep the unions away) I think our power will continue to be more and more expensive and unreliable.

    There is another option however. How about a sort of reverse “Sun Cable” project where the Indons invite parties to build coal, gas or nuclear power plants in that country (which would be doable in a relatively short time, unlike in Australia) and we bring the power to Australia by undersea cable? The cable would be much shorter than Sun Cable and doable.

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    Tony Dique

    We’re screwed.

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    MrGrimNasty

    I’m sure many of us have suspected this, proof at last?

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/11/22/offshore-wind-cannot-be-justified/

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    Tomorrow is schoolies protest day. Thought of some t-shirts, but dont have time to get them done!
    What do we want?
    NET ZERO.
    What do we really want?
    YEAR ZERO!

    Climate science 2023.
    Find the worst climate
    model possible,
    and shove it down our
    throats.

    BILL. STOP JUST STOP. . a

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    Getting it to come out right is tricky

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    The cost of all of this Madness will show up in the Annual Feral Guv’ment Budget and in the cost of electricity to the Consumer. They cannot hide the costs for ever.

    By then, Blackout Bowen, the Minister for Stuffing Things Up will no longer be in Feral Gov’ment so hopefully the new Feral Guv’ment can stop the Insanity.

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    Someone linked to an up to date talk by Simon Michaux, a few days ago. This is someone who has done the numbers. He managed to talk to polis in parliament house. This is what happened – from 01.11.30
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbnXMv19Hck&t=12s

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      Neville

      Thanks FC and I think everyone should listen to Simon’s summary at about 1 hour and then the questions and answers.
      He’s just talked to all the parties in Canberra but not many understand the data. Big surprise NOT.
      S & W will not do the job and the environmental damage will be massive.
      No doubt in my mind that we are heading for disaster and the idiots we have in charge couldn’t run a chook raffle.
      The horrendous cost involved achieves NOTHING and will go on FOREVER and must be RENEWED every 15 to 20 years.
      IOW we are screwed and the idiots involved will never WAKE UP.

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      I watched the video for 22 minutes and then gave up. Mission Impossible or as someone said here once – Emissions Impossible.

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    Called the Capacity Investment Scheme,
    Concocted by the Labor regime,
    Promised watts by the billions,
    Costs Australians gazillions,
    A Net Zero renewable pipe dream.

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    exsteelworker

    How dumb is Australia.

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      Sceptical+Sam

      Not all that dumb Steelie.

      We’ve still got five blast furnaces operating at Port Kembla, with a $1.0 billion reline scheduled for No 6 next year.

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    Steve of Cornubia

    The biggest financial threat I face as a retired Australian is the Labor government and its spending plans, in particular its plans for MY superannuation savings. I fear that one of the ways in which Labor will ‘find the money’ to fund all this unreliable energy infrastructure is by forcing superannuation funds to ‘invest’ in them. This would inevitably reduce returns and most likely leave me dependent on government pension in a few years time. Albo and Bowen don’t care about that though, because by then they will be retired themselves and safe behind their own gold-plated pensions, plus remuneration from various board and NGO positions.

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      Steve of Cornubia

      I should add that I saw this coming some years ago, on the part of both major parties, and I believe this is why we see so many media articles demonising the “boomers”, telling young people and families that all of their financial woes are because the boomer generation had it so easy back when houses were essentially free. This is a propaganda exercise designed to avoid blowback from sympathetic voters when the government(s) get around to robbing our savings. We deserve it you see, having had it so easy for so long, destroying the planet and making housing unaffordable for young people.

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    Ross

    This is so exasperating. Basically, my vote doesn’t count because we have a Uniparty situation on energy policy in Australia. The LNP’s version is only Labor lite, as far as I’m concerned. I love what One Nation etc are doing but the odds of them forming power seem low at this stage. We just had a useless referendum on a voice to parliament that really only affected about 3% of the population, and then those effects were largely imaginary. Thank god that got a big NO. Where’s the referendum on national energy policy? It affects every Aussie and yet we dont have any say in its implementation.

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    Lance

    Throwing money at renewables, in secret, is a bad idea.

    There ought be a publicly available plan for energy stability and national goals for social stability, jobs, manufacturing, etc. Not propaganda for or against any power generator.

    The issue is a complex one. AU needs to decide what future it wants. Middle class jobs in manufacturing, stable energy costs, national security, stable food costs. Or, a politically driven goal to external interests that is in opposition to the forementioned things.

    There are Energy markets and Capacity Markets for power generation. There are also Reliability markets. You place your bets where you think things will work out. Energy markets are cheap but unstable. Capacity markets are more expensive but stable. Reliability markets are more expensive at baseline, but long term cheaper when contrasted with blackouts and curtailments. You have to choose what grid you want and demand it be provided.

    What AU has now is an Energy Market. It used to have a Capacity Market. A Reliability market might be more expensive than either. Perhaps a hybrid is possible. The Energy market is too fragile, the Capacity market is the standard.
    Not sure what the answer is, but an Energy market provided neither Capacity or Reliability.

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    Graham Palmer

    YouTube Video: The Green Energy Bubble Has Finally Burst 🔥🔥💰💰

    If you are interested in more details and a detailed video explanation, go to YouTube the “Wall Street Millennial”.

    It is a site that discusses the larger acts of fraud committed by Wall Street and others and has just done a video on the collapse of investment in renewables and the cancellation of projects worth billions.

    Green renewables were only ok when interest rates and material costs were low but that is no longer the case.

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    Uber

    This was always coming so it’s no surprise. It’s what they’ve been saying over and over was going to happen. KR-illard promised to shut down coal power, and that’s what happened, yet people seemed shocked when the first big Victorian supplier wound down its turbines. John Howard introduced CO2 emissions penalties, and people wonder why the Libtards support net zero.
    We are more socialist than democratic. The socialist nation always realises its folly too late.

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    Leo Morgan

    Jo, can you add an Excel graph to this story, showing the maximum amount of co2 emissions over time if the continent of Australia fell into the sea today, compared to business as usual? The point being that Albanese’s Potlach can’t change anything more than that.
    If need to call on your research backup team, that’s fine. But people I’ve spoken to can’t understand words, or simple maths, and need pictures.
    This graph dramatically highlights the futility of the exercise.

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      PeterPetrum

      The difference would be so infinitesimal that it would not show up on a graph.

      Waste of time in more ways than one.

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    James McBride

    I would like to ask Mr Bowen one salient question: How will you maintain steady power when the wind stops at night?

    Don’t tell me batteries or other storage, think of this, Snowy 2 might run for 6 days under inclement weather, what of the 7th when the weather is still foul?

    There is no answer in the solar and wind scenario. None It will fail – period!!

    With Bowen’s plan we are all heading for financial ruin and dark nights. What a mindless brainless egotistical arrogant fool.

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    Steve

    Bowen is the most dangerous person in Australian politics. He needs to be stopped. Bowen is not only a total UN/IPCC/WEF puppet, but he is also monumentally stupid, a lethal combination for Australia.

    Dutton must call a press conference and simply say that the LNP will exit Net-Zero day one in office.

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    Alex

    Some weeks ago an electric bus exploded losing control and hurtled down 30 feet or more. This happened in a Venice suburb, Italy. The fault has not been declared, if it has been identified. The driver was absolved of any wrongdoing.

    Yesterday a car exploded on the US-Canada border. It was a US$300,000 Bentley “Flying Spur” model which is produced in three versions, one of them hybrid electric.

    In the UK car insurers are hiking their rates for electric cars even by 70%.

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    Curious George

    They declared war on climate change. Of course, they can not alert the enemy how much money is in the war chest. It is a military secret.

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    ralph ellis

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    30 gw of wind is only the beginning. If Oz needs 30 gw of output, it will need 90 gw of nameplate capacity. (Averaging about 33% capacity factor, between onshore and offshore wind.)

    And then Oz will need 10,000 gwh of pumped storage backup, for when the wind is not blowing. That is about 30 Snowy-2 storage systems. And how much with those cost?

    Wind renewable is only ‘cheap’ if you use coal power as a ‘free’(ie: non-costed) backup system. If you include a viable backup system, and then cost in the replacement of all those wind turbines every 25 years – suddenly it becomes very expensive.

    R

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    Stephen McDonald

    So Chris Bowen is the climate knob.
    He is twisted and the climate goes to what ever you want it to be.

    But first the poor taxpayer must give multiple billions of dollars to his obsenely rich elite friends to find out that the climate knob doesn’t work at all.

    It just destroys the national economy.

    The poverty stricken population finally realises that the knob is just twisted.

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    Stupidity & Ignorance writ large! What else is there to say?

    And here’s a little bit that I’ve compiled on the subject: http://www.galileomovement.com.au/media/Renewables.pdf (With this being one of the optional offshoots from lots about the climate FRAUD, and introducing ‘modern’ nuclear energy.

    Perhaps this a good starting point? http://www.galileomovement.com.au/media/ClimateGoodNewsSummation.pdf

    P.S. Surprise! Surprise! Joanne gets more than one mention here and there ……

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    DOC

    Read today’s Australian, front page and page 4. The end of global warming propaganda is nigh.
    ‘Alies say it’s nuclear for take-off.’ COP28 Summit next week
    ‘Need for fossil fuels spending to hit net zero (emissions)’.
    The Editorial.Bowen’s x5 rapid expansion for his renewables. Costings stay private.
    IEA concedes, new oil and gas investments required to ensure world energy security

    USA, UK, ‘other allies’ admit net zero impossible without fossil fuels and/or nuclear. They are to press for trebling world nuclear energy, THe UAE has 4 reactors coming in short time.
    Australian Opposition Energy and Climate Change spokesman, Ted O’Brien INVITED to address the World Nuclear Association at the World climate change summit next week.

    The crab walk away from renewables is astounding. Of course, renewables will be in the mix! Why if nuclear does the same job but without requiring $trillions spent on build a new grid?

    There’s oodles more to read. However, questions will surely arise about the con and its economy destroying mistakes so far, not to mention the official lies. How long can it be before the question must eventually be raised as to the validity of the enforced science?

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    Mike+of+NQ

    Bowen forget to add, the $275 savings that you are all enjoying on your electricity bills is set to increase to $1,275 per household under his new scheme. Of course, the truth is absolutely irrelevant.

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    Charles Pickles

    Funny how this government is doing exactly what the UK government is doing by throwing humungous a mounts of extra tax payers and householders money at this huge scam. And in the UK there is no allocation by amounts to cover all the wiring from the windmills to the users, a massive uplift of £bs.

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    Joanne,

    I sent a link to this article and the first couple of paragraphs to Topher Field and suggested he get this outrage exposed in his “Aussie wire” news report.

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    US EV sales in 2023 were up over 20% from 2022, from about 7.3% of sales to 9% of sales. Not sure what the dealers use for data when making their complaints.

    The average price of US EVs sold, including the $7,500 tax credit, is LOWER than the average ICE sales price.

    The typical US EV sold is a compact car and the typical US ICE is a pickup truck — that explains the difference along with the tax credit.

    If you wanted a compact car, a Toyota Corolla would be much cheaper than a tesla Model 3

    If you wanted a pickup truck, ICE would again be the best choice for hauling loads and a reasonable price (not xcheap).

    With the climate, we always hear false claims that the future climate will be worse than previously thought.

    But with EVs the current news IS really always worse than we previously thought, from worse than expected reliability, to higher than expected insurance rates.

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