In the last couple of weeks a New Zealand whistleblower came forward with detailed, but anonymized data showing that certain batches of the experimental you-know-what, were associated with shockingly high mortality rates. As this news started to spread, the government could have responded to correct or explain this, instead they arrested him, thus accidentally verifying that the data he showed was not wrong, but real. His crime apparently was not faking-up the data, but “accessing a computer system for dishonest purposes” which seems like a very strange crime given that, as he describes it, he was paid to work with the data, and the results of public health data is — in a free society — supposed to be public.
In the world we thought we lived in, we would assume that the NZ government would already know and track the mortality of all the batches they forced the citizens to take. Unless they were grossly incompetent or inherently corrupted by, hypothetically say, large multinational entities earning a hundred billion dollars — authorities would have the real death rates at their fingertips, surely? So if he faked the data, or misinterpreted it, or he made an honest but calamitous error with the spreadsheet, then surely the government could have told us that?
Perhaps there is some legitimate explanation (for example if the worst batches went to nursing homes with 104 year old patients at deaths door, or were only given to wards of Stage 4 cancer patients). The Minister of Health could have explained that. But check these numbers: The batch labelled “1” here had a death rate of 21%. Out of 711 injections, 152 people died. (Apparently over a long timespan, so some of these deaths are months afterwards.) This needs explaining.
The ten worst batches:
This needs some explanation.
Batch 62, which went out to 18,000 people was associated with an extraordinary 4.6% death rate. Does the Minister know the average age of these people, or their risk factors? If not, why not? Isn’t this one of the most important questions in the country today?
In this short video below, Barry Young is interviewed by Liz Gunn, and referred to as “Winston Smith”. The man is a hero. In court he received a standing ovation from the packed public gallery. This interview was a few days ago, before his name was revealed and he was arrested.
New Zealand Covid-19 vaccination database admin turns whistleblower and reveals how many people died after taking bad batches of the Pfizer vaccine. This must be investigated. If this data of mass vaccine casualties is real there must be accountability. pic.twitter.com/2QjkmRGJca
— Kim Dotcom (@KimDotcom) November 30, 2023
The New Zealand Ministry of Health says that only four people have died because of vaccination. Steve Kirsch has analyzed the data, and claims it (and other data he has) shows an overall mortality rate of around 1 in 1,000 doses. He calls for people to prove he is wrong and points out no nation has ever released their record-level data publicly, which would be easy to do if they wanted to prove their programs were safe.
This new whistleblower data comes from the “Pay per dose” program in New Zealand and applies to about 4 million of the 12 million total doses. While one critic claimed these were doses for people in nursing homes, Kirsch claims that nearly 900 million days of data in people under 60 in the dataset. Kirsch also says the mortality peaks around six months after the last injection.
He pointedly asks why other countries don’t release their record-level data (which could show the injections are safe, right?) I don’t know if Steve Kirsch is right, but I do know the governments are acting guilty.
This week Barry Young was held overnight in jail and finally released on bail Tuesday after a long but strangely unexplained delay. As the Otago Daily Times explains it, the main fear of the government is apparently to stop the spread of anonymous data (presumably in case other people accidentally analyze it?)
Te Whatu Ora [some NZ Government entity] was granted an urgent injunction on Friday to prevent the spread of the data, chief executive Margie Apa said.
“The data, as published on an overseas site, appears to have been anonymised. Analysis of the released data is ongoing, but work so far has not found any National Health Index Numbers or personally identifiable information.”
For more information people can watch the full 1 hour interview here. Or read the Gateway Pundit write up, the latest Otago Daily Times, and Steve Kirsch’s blog.
The supposed new NZ “conservative” Government is as lunatic Left and as crazy and dishonest as the one it replaced.
They are pretend conservatives just like Australia’s Uniparty faction known as the Liberal Party here.
This fellow committed the Orwellian crime known as wrongthink.
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Maybe this 1984 quote would be better: Ignorance is strength — their strength depends on our ignorance.
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When the voters change the politicians they don’t change the bureaucrats.
They are the ones who “advice” politicians and release damaging information about those who don’t ‘toe the line’.
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That’s what I am thinking.
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In the UK our once admirable impartial Civil Service was destroyed by the liar Blair and his Liar-in-Chief Alistair Campbell forcing out those who wanted to do a good job for the country. The leftie woke anti-British appointees all remain in place even after 13 years of the alleged Conservative government. But then we know that they sit very much left of centre so actually agree with most of the Snivel Service who spend most of their time shirking from home.
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Emergency video from Liz Gunn about the situation in New Zealand.
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An outstanding talk! Highly recommended!
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I agree. I sat through he whole of the original presentation and liked Liz Gunn’s approach but it would have been nice to see a control group. It is difficult to say it was the injections that caused these deaths weeks/months down the track without a similar sized group of similar aged folk who did not have any treatment. Despite this, Barry Young is a national hero and the NZ Govt looks pretty stupid at this point in time.
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No. The NZ Gov deserves no such excuses.
In a sense there is a control group. It is all of us who avoided the jab, and despite the psychological harassment are still alive.
Further, again we see how a dangerous experiment was done on the general public with acquiescence of regulators, media and the medical profession.
“the NZ Govt looks pretty stupid”, more so that they are guilty along with the other institutions and individuals of fraud and manslaughter.
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Not just “in a sense”, either. There is a formally organized control group too: vaxcontrolgroup.com
I signed up to make sure someone is tracking my excellent unvaccinated health, and because Pfizer “lost” their control group.
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I thought about signing up for about 10 seconds and then realised that infamous government agencies could subvert the data and profiles for retributive actions. For the same reasons I won’t be signing up for the proposed digital ID on the MyGov website
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Having just watched the Young/Kirsch/Jones Zoom chat over at InfoWars, the NZ Govt has painted itself into a corner because they had every opportunity to behave in a morally correct fashion but decided to try and hide the NZ Health Ministry data. I encourage everyone to listen to that conversation. Evidently, a couple of servers have been “leaned upon” by the NZ Govt so they deleted customer data files.
This is a bad day in New Zealand’s history. Their Government is a disgrace when now more than ever, we need strong, honest leadership.
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Just to be cantankerous Lucky, I’m an >60 control group person but not all rats in this experiment are equal.
1). There are those who, like me, avoid doctors if possible and take a steady interest in maintaining good health.
2), Conversely, there are those who regard doctors as the providers of health and do not take active steps to become healthier.
Volunteering for an experimental shot is therefore bound to select a less than average cut of the community.
Most of my peer-group see
a), high sunshine hours each week,
b), regular exercise,
c), a good balanced diet with irregular minimal alcohol and no drugs.
d), have a lot of Common Sense.
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As far as no one official is interested in autopsies….
Ask why…
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The last thing the authorities want is a control group. That is one of the reasons they insisted that every last person be hunted down and jabbed (in the words of the former NZ minister).
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Absolutely Stan, They had the ability to do some stats collection on non-injected folk but they specifically did not want to do that. I’m just being picky about the control group issue. It’s bleeding obvious that there is a problem with some batches. The trouble is we don’t have a clear way of differentiating the cause of death or injury. One the K family went to hospital for the first time in her life 24 hours after her 2nd Fizr shot. Had she not been a super-fit 19 year old she’d probably have died from the blood clots in the major veins retuning blood (+ clots) to her heart. In this case the link is undeniable. Conversely, on the 28th July I went to the funeral of an old friend. She was over 70 but quite well until she had a massive heart attack in the shower after doing some gentle gardening with her husband. Who knows why she died ? She was certainly a fit and healthy person. In the 70s she cycled from Lapland to Tanzania and had always led a very clean life-style.
Only obstructionists try to deny that there might be problem worth investigating.
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Also on 28th July was the funeral of my mechanic’s sister. She was a popular manager at a Bunning Warehouse in the Sydney region and had a sudden heart attack and dropped down dead. Usually, people in their 50s have some sort of prior indication of poor health.
Again, no causal link but these anecdotes keep stacking up in excess of normal.
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Heck, it must have rained a lot there, recently ( aye and we saw your giant Hailstones in Queensland today ) so the SWAMP is growing. Looks like a dyke has been breached.
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Yes I can see it now, the exact same bureaucrats and politicians now agreeing that these “vaccines” were NOT safe and effective. A 100% turnaround. I’ll believe it when It happens. More likely they will never confirm they were completely wrong to give big pharmacy immunity from prosecution. They will fight the truth, because too much is at stake!
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She compares this outrage to Watergate. How many people did Nixon kill again?
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A more appropriate comparison would be the Pentagon Papers, not Watergate.
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Also, don’t miss this:
https://twitter.com/stkirsch/status/1732807641787756894?s=51&t=JQmXS6FtM8RkgF0lWwt4_A
Steve Kirsch speaking to the U.K parliament about the NZ revelation
Pay attention to the tactics he reveals that were used to keep this hidden.
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One of the best videos, a must watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfnJi7yLKgE&t=440s
Heated Vaccine Debate – Kennedy Jr. vs Dershowitz
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Alas I cannot listen to Kennedy. I know he’s great, but it’s just unbearable. He needs a Steven Hawking-style voice assistant.
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Should the New Zimbabwe Ministry of Health be renamed the Ministry of Truth?
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Tumeke bro / too much brother.
And herein lies one of the flies in the ointment: the Ministry of Health was morphed into Te Whatu Ora o Aotearoa (self-explanatory eh) and now the new suits in the Beehive want to go back to plain old English ‘Ministry of Health’. This has upset a tiny percentage of tangata whenua [people of the land, though not indigenous].
NZ Road Transport Authority (NZTA) was maorified into Waka Kotahi (canoe on highway one) and the new govt plans to go back to NZTA – fair enough as all 130 nationalities who now call New Zealand home can understand it. E hoa? Kapai! Chur my bro, waddup!
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NZ’s intolerance of Truth came from its former self-confessed Marxist leader Ardern:
SEE LINK FOR REST
Ardern quote: “I’m a pretty communist”. https://youtu.be/5RM9Q7XW72U
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Watch the Doe-Eyed Dictator Ardern plead with the United Natuons to crack down on “disinformation”, otherwise known as wrongthink. Commentary by Jack Houghton.
https://youtu.be/kUHhQax5P_w7
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Ardern – a sheep in wolf’s clothing. 😎
Like most pollies.
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Fact check: Did 11,000 people really get a vaccine exemption?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/133104602/fact-check-did-11000-people-really-get-a-vaccine-exemption
The letter said 103 applications for an exemption to avoid significant service disruption had been successful between November 2021 and September 2022. A figure of “approximately 11,005” came from adding up the health and disability workers covered by these 103 applications.
“There was this comment today that we are one of the wealthiest countries in the world… Out of 160 countries, New Zealand now sits at 159th in the world for GDP percentage
https://www.chrislynchmedia.com/news-items/te-whatu-ora-granted-11000-health-workers-vaccine-exemption-while-forcing-public-to-take-jab
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Kevin, Stuff is the previous Government’s propaganda arm. I would not believe anything, especially in the political arena, that they say.
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You may find this Dr Guy Hatchard (Hatchard report) document of interest as a 2nd source of confirmation. An important element of explanation contained in the report which supports that the granting of bulk exemptions for medical staff may not be “mis-information” states:
“So why did senior medical staff choose to remain unvaccinated?
They may have been aware of a 2019 paper in Frontiers in Oncology Journal entitled
which reported: Gene Therapy Leaves a Vicious Cycle
“…gene therapy has been caught in a vicious cycle for nearly two decades owing to immune response, insertional mutagenesis, viral tropism, off-target activity, unwanted clinical outcomes (ranging from illness to death of participants in clinical trials), and patchy regulations.”
There would seem to be enough information sources within just that paragraph that could be followed up on to check just how accurate the claims are ie was such a paper published in 2019 in Frontiers, if so does the paper carry citations/references that can be verified etc.
And of course who is Dr Guy Hatchard, is he a doctor, what has he done/happened to him since his report came out ie have others discredited it or just ignored it which also could show the lack of argument against it.
And the cherry on top who is Matt Hannant, Interim Director, Prevention, National Public Health Service, Te Whatu Ora (quoted in the report), was he ever interim director, did he get his directorship made permanent or was he hung out to dry with his quote:
“From 13 November 2021 to 26 September 2022, a total of 478 applications for Signicant Service Disruption exemption (SSD) were received. 103 applications were granted, covering approximately 11,005 workers. Please note that it is not possible to provide the exact number of workers that were covered by SSDs. This is because it was possible for an
organisation to submit an application to cover more than one worker.”
‘Oh what a tangled web we weave/When first we practice to deceive’. Happy reading.
Cheers
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Thanks Jo, that’s clear, relevant and readable.
Phrases like “In the world we thought we lived in” neatly frames the problem and hints at a solution which sadly may be out of reach.
The “solution” may seem to be that we all wake up and check out what’s happening but that’s not really possible.
The only solution is to make those responsible for our safety aware that their slackness, for want of a better word, has been exposed and that they must be held accountable.
Don’t forget, don’t forgive, Prosecute!
It’s the only way to stop the rampant abuse of what we thought was a Democracy.
Where is our Watt Tyler.
One of the first questions we should ask is “what inducements did China apply and to whom”.
After that we go to individual cases and fine tune: who pushed the VaXXines, who pushed the Renewables catastrophe, who smashed our industrial base and who made our education system the dysfunctional mess that it is.
Follow the money trail: perhaps we could hire an expert to help: the young O’Biden surely could help there.
Answers needed now.
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Gad Saad discusses “The Suicidal Demise of the West”, under 2 mins.
https://youtu.be/aYolXVwRWZ4
Donald Trump’s re-election is the absolute last hope the West has.
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I’ll be happy with Nimarata Nikki Haley. I reckon she’d get on well with Jacinta Nampijinpa Price. With those two running the show we could relax a bit.
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I don’t think Jacinta is a war-monger, or enjoys profits from the arms industry.
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Give it time.
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I haven’t got any bad vibes from her.
She seems genuinely a decent person.
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Decent but stupid in a leftist kind of way.
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Who are you talking about? Your comment is ambiguous.
BTW, I didn’t red thumb you.
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We are talking about Jacinta Price?
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The fundamental question should be ” Why would a 56 year old man with another 10 or 15 years of productive and wealth creating life in front of him jeopardise his future and face possible jail time to bring to the public proof that the vaccine is not safe?” He could have said that it was bad enough to avoid taking the shot himself and to warn his friends and family but he wanted to warn everybody. He is a modern hero and very brave. He knew what would likely happen to him and still he proceeded. That is true courage, a courage not shown by all the others who also know how dangerous these vaccines are.
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Where there’s smoke, there’s fire! But Maori Marxism runs deep in NZ Government circles so don’t expect much truth to emerge from prosecuting the “whistleblower”! I very much doubt the consortium of dispirit personalities AKA NZ Government will survive the full term.
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Apparently, NZ does not have the proper talents to investigate this.
They should ask for help.
Medical people everywhere should demand answers.
The response, so far, is not a good start.
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One of the first signs of problems in US with the vaccine and mortality didn’t come from the health industry, it came from the insurance industry in early 2022.
The industry was complaining of huge rises in death claims from the middle aged, and saying the increase was an enormous statistically anomaly that needed urgent investigation. It was basically ignored by MSM (or suppressed) excess deaths have been OFF the MSM for a long time but the alternative news services have covered it. Here’s some from ZeroHedge (last 10 months) I wish I had an account with Epoch Times they were foremost in Covid related info.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/mainstream-media-continues-push-false-covid-heart-narrative-explain-excess-deaths
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/annual-us-excess-deaths-relative-other-developed-countries-are-growing-alarming-rate
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/over-500-excess-heart-deaths-week-england-covid-19-began
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/new-study-concludes-lockdowns-caused-least-170000-excess-deaths-us
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/most-intensive-ivermectin-use-had-74-percent-reduction-excess-deaths-peru-new-study
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/veil-silence-over-excess-deaths
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-12-04/red-flags-everywhere-2023-sees-alarming-rise-excess-deaths-across-america
Big Pharma, the medical industry and government need to be held to account for the COVID, Australia needs a Royal Commission nothing less!
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I did a search on Principia Scientific for ‘excess deaths’ and was not surprised to get results, I scrolled down the first page and noted nearly all also mentioned COVID in the titles, what did surprise me was when I got to the bottom of the page they indicated there was at least 30 pages of results! So I tried to narrow the search with ‘excess deaths covid’ that came up with on 27 pages of results – phew that’s a relief!
https://principia-scientific.com/page/7/?s=excess+deaths+covid
https://principia-scientific.com/myocarditis-is-serious-and-the-first-sign-can-be-sudden-death/
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Just found this list that comes with a warning to migrate to the new site soon but has different tallies for each week of Excess, Covid and Mortalities. No idea how good.
https://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?queryid=104676
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Excess mortality during the Coronavirus pandemic (COVID-19)
HomeCoronavirusExcess mortality
by Charlie Giattino, Hannah Ritchie, Esteban Ortiz-Ospina, Joe Hasell, Lucas Rodés-Guirao and Max Roser
https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid
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Thanks for the links but this has been happening for 50 years.
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Like Australia, NZ was once considered a free, reason-based, pro-science and egalitarian country.
Tragically, that is no longer true in either case.
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“NZ was once considered a free, reason-based, pro-science and egalitarian country.”
I think you are talking about the people who emigrated from NZ…. 12years of Labor cleared it out & the replacements are not the same!
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Assuming his data is correct (not that I have any evidence its not), clearly if it was indicative of Pfizer vaccine in general the results would have been so stark world wide that they could not possibly have been hidden.
Looking at his data, it is only certain batches and also (not so much in your article Jo but from the other sources you mention) certain providers. There is a potential clue here, all the providers seem to have been mobile facilities. They would be the ones for whom correct vaccine storage would have been most challenging.
I suspect what his data shows may be what happens when the vaccine was not stored correctly. Of course a vaccine that becomes a killer if it is not stored perfectly is itself a major problem, probably enough of a problem to make the vaccine not fit for purpose. That in turn raises the question of what chemical/biological changes in the vaccine make it dangerous if stored at room temperature.
What really concerns me is the authorities attempts to discredit and cover up the data released. No doubt they are worried they might get sued but lets not forget they forced people to take these vaccines. To me that makes then significantly accountable.
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If the “vaccine” is not even stable and becomes dangerous at room temperature, what then does it do once inside your body at 37C?
I always thought it was strange that Pfizer had to be strictly stored at betwwen -90C and -60C which shows how unstable it is.
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I understood that the active ingredients were rendered inactive, not dangerous , if the vaccines were stored incorrectly.
Comments in other forums mention pharmacists etc saving lives by leaving newly arrived boxes of the poison out on the counter overnight , and then quietly putting them back into the fridge the next morning.
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If true a wonderful ‘Alone In Berlin’ example of passive resistance. It is the simple actions that are often the most effective because you can’t manage the unexpected, until it happens.
PS It is a good inspiring movie if you haven’t seen it.
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Michael Hammer:
” clearly if it was indicative of Pfizer vaccine in general the results would have been so stark world wide that they could not possibly have been hidden.”
The NZ data is not the only data suggesting 1 in 1000 doses may have caused severe side effects.
Imagine something was responsible for causing deaths say 6 months later, deaths that were very hard to distinguish from a heart attack or a stroke. If doctors were unable to say “it’s a vaccine death” (for both good and bad reasons) — if reporting was discouraged — if the media didn’t ask about the possibility, and if the media didn’t report an unprecedented increase in the excess death rate…
Imagine if the authorities arrested anyone who spoke up who saw the data — creating great fear among anyone else who might speak up.
if all this were true, could a malevolent, self interested party worth hundreds of billions of dollars conceal a death rate of 1 in 1000?
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Jo; You mention death rates of 1 in 1000 and yes maybe that would not have been obvious or could be explained as covid deaths not vaccine induced deaths but the original article talks about death rates of 4% to 21% not 0.1%. Death rates of 4% to 21% I suspect could not have been hidden. People would notice if say 10% of people died within a few days of being vaccinated.
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Vin, it’s even possible that unrefrigerated vaccines *may* be safer. Both the RNA and DNA contaminants may degrade into fragments.
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There’s an additional wrinkle to your point on batches etc. There were multiple doses in each vial, but the instructions for the mRNA vaccines were that the vials were NOT to be shaken/mixed prior to jab. Shaking would denature the mRNA material, apparently. Hence, it was a lottery as to what dosage you received based on what number of jabs had been taken out of each vial. It’s very likely many people never received any mRNA material and others got doses way in excess of required.
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I imagine the graphene lattice would be fragile and also quite dense so would tend to settle out in a still environment. We are shown footage of the vials being gently rolled. Perhaps this redistributes the graphene leaflets into the carrier solution. If this was the case it is easy to see how some folk might have had a higher dose of active ingredients than others.
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Michael, there were two types of payment system –ie. payments for giving the jab.
The first was a “bulk funding” type arrangement for vaccination centres set up around the place to give people easy access etc. The second was for GP and their clinics plus Chemist shops and I presume nursing homes, given what came out in his data.
It was the second type that the whistle blower was working on and so you could argue his data is skewed a bit. There is no doubt his data is correct –he was working for the MoH at the time.
But even if you take his data and cut the figures in half, there is still a huge problem that is being ignored or swept under the carpet.
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And that is indeed the case. The evidence is everywhere, such as here in the Australian Bureau of Statistics data.
https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/measuring-australias-excess-mortality-during-covid-19-pandemic-doctor-certified-deaths#cite-window1
The first reference shows the start of the excess deaths in Jan 2022.
and
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/latest-
release
The second reference shows the excess deaths continuing through to mid 2023.
There are a lot of them.
The problem is to get people to notice and react.
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The heat must be affecting my iPad, giving me this message from your second link:
” Sorry, the page you were looking for could not be found. ”
Any ideas?
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Try
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/latest-release
The money shot is the graph mid way through the document
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Thanks Peter,
I completely missed the change in colour of your original link, and assumed the nasties had withdrawn the link.
This one has worked for me.
Cheers
Dave B
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Peter; like most of the people blogging here, I am deeply suspicious of the mRNA vaccines which is why I refused to take them (used Astra Zenica for the 2 vaccinations I was forced to have) but as I replied to Jo’s comment; the article talked about death rates of 4% to 21%. 1 in 1000 or 0.1% may indeed avoid notice but 4% to 21% in my opinion could not be hidden. What worries me even more however is that we may not have seen the end of it. The excess death rate could continue for years. For example; is it just me or does the reported death rates among athletes seem to be higher than was reported pre covid?
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Hiding the deaths. There was a spate of soccer players dropping dead during a game. Not easy to hide but the authorities obfuscate describing the cause in fancy language.
As well, as Krishna Gans reports above, autopsies have revealed some unusual conditions prevalent in deaths after the vaccination.
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We’ve been told some whopping lies over the decades. There’s lots. But a couple stand out for me. Mostly because these lies are repeated incessantly in a psychological warfare type operation to justify a big multi- government operation. The first was “ Weapons of mass destruction “, that lie used to justify the Iraqi war. The second, of course , is “ safe and effective”, used to justify the way too rapid roll out of all the COVID vaccine types, but particularly the mRNA types.
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Ross.
Depends how far you want to go back. Don’t forget prior to ‘weapons of mass destruction’ we had 9/11, prior to that we had Lockerbie. We have now moved on to climate …
They live, they breathe, they lie. Question everything.
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JFK, UFO’s, Ukraine, Justin’s real dad, Harry’s real dad, Bradford (UK), Cardinal Ratzinger/”Pope” Francis/George Pell, WEF, George Soros, Donald McKay and Al Grassby, Liz Truss, the 2020 US election, “Jan 6th” and so on ad nauseam – literally ad nauseam. So much deceit by so many for so long. I suppose it was ever thus.
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I would definitely exclude Benedict XVI and George Pell from that list; possibly Liz Truss; not sure about her though.
Where’s Bill Gates on your list?
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Adellad’s list is of the names of scams and scandals not a list of those responsible.
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Mike’s Trick.
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There’s no doubt that everyone who had a covid vaccination is going to die … eventually, just like the people who weren’t vaccinated. Until we know the context in which Batch 1 was given, i.e., age, medical condition anything that’s said is just speculation. And it might be very interesting to learn what was different about the people given that vaccination who didn’t die.
You have to remember that these vaccines were developed, tested and distributed in months rather than the usual number of years. They were urgently needed because their was no medical defence against covid. As was reported in this blog, tens of thousands of people seemed to be dying in China and hospitals were so over-crowded that a new one had to be quickly built. I don’t think there’s any doubt that they saved lives, the big question is how many?
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That’s not true. HCQ administered according to appropriate protocols was demonstrated to be effective. It was banned even before the “vaccines” were available. IVM was also banned. Correction of vitamin D deficiency was shown to be effective in minimising mortality or severity of the disease. The vaccines should have been optional, not compulsory as in Australia and NZ.
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I should have linked to the Norman Fenton graphs I posted two years ago:
The UK data published in Dec 2021 shows a unmistakable link between vaccinations and deaths. In each age group the timing of peak vaccinations precedes peak mortality by the same number of weeks. It is inexcusable that authorities don’t release public data following the fate of the vaccinated and unvaccinated, the causes of death, the age and all demographics. But even without proper RCT trials, the data is there. The correlation, the turning points, so strong, it is obvious.
In two years no one has come up with an explanation as to why these peaks occur in every age group.
I’d say the vaccines should have been halted at this point two years ago, except they should never have been started — we had ivermectin and hydroxychloroquin, quercetin, D3, Zinc, Budesonide, antihistamines, iota-carageenan, melatonin, povidone iodine etc etc. They were all well tested and low risk.
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Governments will not reveal the data and the vast majority of the public don’t want to see it. However, the fact that very few people are got the Covid booster shots indicates that secretly they know they were fooled.
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Excess mortality in New Zealand has been negative since the onset of COVID. Lockdown and vaccination prior to the virus running through the population has clearly been the best strategy.
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..2022-04-24&facet=none&country=USA~IND~European+Union~AUS~OWID_AFR~NZL~OWID_EUR&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&Metric=Excess+mortality+%28%25%29
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There’s thumbnail graphs of many countries and their weekly mortality here.
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/akarlinsky/world_mortality/main/world_mort_plot_all.png
New Zealand clearly had lower than normal mortality in Winter 2020 and higher than normal mortality in the first half of 2022 (the orange line that sticks up above all the others). Their vax rollout was mainly in the second half of 2021 and still going early 2022 … therefore it aligns quite well with the peak risk being 6 months after the jab … exactly what Kirsch found from longitudinal studies.
That graph ignores attribution of course, which is why longitudinal studies are generally more accurate. Point being that total mortality per week in no way contradicts Kirsch’s conclusion.
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Your baselines aren’t consistent. New Zealand has had negative excess mortality from 2020 to the start of 2023, where it is now close to zero. Vaccines have not caused excess mortality.
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Simon. NZ has not had negative excess mortality from 2020 to start of 2023.
NZ has had positive excess mortality for almost the entirety of the last three years.
Ranging 10 to 30% above for most of 2022
10 to 20% above for most of 2023.
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See this chart https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?country=~NZL
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What data are you looking at?
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Many people died because of the way people were ventilated at the beginning, that was the completely wrong way.
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An excellent point.
So much to examine from the New York situation.
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A very glib response that is disrespectful to those whose lives have possibly been taken very prematurely by a product that arguably should never have been given even temporary approval anywhere in the world.
No medical product can be safely developed in a matter of months. I don’t need to “remember” that, I know it only too well. I was aware of warnings as early as mid-2020 that this particular technology was dangerous (previous attempts to use it had been rapidly withdrawn due to deaths), and that mass-vaccination in a pandemic is not a wise practice. Those warnings were suppressed. Why?
How much of the imagery coming out of China in early 2020 was theatre and now much was real?
There were in fact very effective treatments readily available for this disease, and that was know very early on – but suppressed. Why?
In July 2021 the CDC quietly announced that as of 31st December 2021 the PCR would no longer be the main test for covid. Why? Because, in the CDC’s own words, the PCR test could not distinguish between covid and influenza. So, were all those thousands of “cases” actually covid, or the ‘flu? You may recall that as of 1st January 2022 it was all RATs, no longer PCR tests that were used. You need to ask questions, not blithely accept what the TV tells you.
Not all these deaths were of the elderly who may be dismissed by some as “having had a good innings”, and whose deaths the hard-hearted are able to easily dismiss. Many younger people have died soon after having these jabs too, leaving a lot of grief and difficulty behind. Having lost both my parents while still a young child, I now only too well the impact that has on your life.
Even in the context of aged care or the very ill, there would be an already established expected or average rate of death over the years prior to the roll out of these injections. That is what needs to be compared with from 2021 onwards to establish if these particular cohorts experienced higher rates of death post-jab.
As to those with serious or terminal illness, why would you give them an experimental and arguably dangerous injection? I have heard of a man supposed to be going into palliative care – i.e., literally end of life care with a couple of weeks to live – but who was denied access because he declined to take the jabs. We already know the jabs do not stop the contraction or spread of any disease, so there is no logical reason to insist on a terminally ill person to take a dangerous injection. Maybe there is a financial incentive for a hospital to get jabs in every arm. When a “health care” system denies a dying person dignity and care in their last days, it has become illogical, robotic, bloody-minded and cruel and is beyond salvage.
The indicated death rates, as per the whistleblower’s data, indicates an exceptionally (and unacceptably) high rate of death overall, and demands thorough investigation – whatever the cause. If it’s that the product is faulty, or if the storage requirements were unattainable in general use (causing dangerous deterioration of the product), or if there was actual harmful intent, that must be established.
These are only the figures for those who died within a relatively short period after the jabs. The figures that are probably never going to be ascertainable are of those who were injured, and who may never fully recover.
The sheer recklessness and inhumanity of this whole business is gob-smacking. Yet, here we are.
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Well said Bushkid.
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One j.a.b. for all –
though we’re sooooo diversified,
multi-gendered,
many minorities
with special needs:
one j.a.b. fits all sizes…
Roll up! Roll up!
Pass.
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There are so many falsehoods here it is hard to know how you could hold all these things in your head at once. An example
Is totally missing context and is not in the CDC’s words. The covid PCR test very specifically detects the SARS virus and never the influenza virus. What the test can’t do is help identify influenza – so it can’t distinguish whether someone who tests negative has influenza or some other non-covid illness. If they have covid they can absolutely distinguish covid.
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Name the falsehoods you claim and document them. All of them.
Don’t claim “out of context” without proof.
The reality is that many people have been crippled and died after the vax and much more so than anything in history.
Explain that situation, if you may.
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PCR?
Polymerase Chain Reaction.
Basically a statistical data handling technique that relies heavily on “oversampling”.
It is NOT some special,specific laboratory procedure. But it IS “special” voodoo sciency terminology; as beloved of the chattering class and the toxic opinion shapers.
Even the (late) bloke who invented it urged caution in its application.
But it became just more “buzz-jargon” in the race to “imprison” over half the world’s population.
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PCR is the wrong battle to pick.
There are so many crimes afoot, let’s stick to the big real ones and not get distracted. Any tool in science can be abused but millions of PCR tests are used in thousands of aspects of science, medicine, law, forensics, history, paleoclimate, etc and have been for decades and are cross tested with other techniques.
When done properly (not with a high CT) PCR can easily distinguish between not just influenza and Covid, but between different strains of each Eg H1N1 / H2N3 / etc, and it can tell us useful things about the viral load too. We know it works because all the other tests with antibodies, drugs, plaque assays, contact tracing, etc back this up. It’s been tested a billion times.
The big crimes here are the suppression of safe antivirals, supplements, vitamins, and the suppression of free speech, and the lack of hard borders in the face of a laboratory leaked bioweapon. It’s a crime governments are not releasing public data. It’s a crime governments are jailing people for speaking their mind. It’s a crime doctors are being silenced, and a crime anyone was forced to take an injection they didn’t want, and weren’t properly informed about.
If we want the world to pay attention to these crimes, best not to talk about techniques that the medical world uses every single day without learning how those techniques work. Talking about PCR carelessly will not open eyes of fence-sitters, especially if they are medically well informed — they will assume said commenter has no meaningful knowledge on any pandemic point. It works against us. It wastes time. It wastes voices.
See what happened here — Bushkid made many good points we should be discussing, but Gee Aye could pick up on one mistake (correctly), and that’s what everyone is talking about. Self-discipline helps us win the information war. If you don’t understand medical testing — pick a different battle.
We need all the voices we can get.
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Disagree. The PCR test was at the heart of the scam. As used it gave only a yes/no result, like a machine that goes ping it was sciency, a great publicity tool, agreed certainly a great research tool for tracking. But, it does not do what is claimed in a clinical sense, it cannot tell if an individual is going to get that virus, has it, or will spread it. The result of that test lead to mis/dis treatment, isolation and in fact persecution. Celebrities would give themselves a repeat test if they disliked the first.
It was a great money spinner for the medicals.
Every week some Fauci type or institution would come out with a new number for the correct amplification to be used, in other words the result produced by the test was manipulable.
“We need all the voices we can get.”
But not the authorities and medical profession who got everything wrong.
After the Wuhu, there has been a sea-change in the way the public trusts statements from these sources.
For some, it is not a feeling of a need to be more careful rather that of wanting to see the guilty swinging.
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See this is the problem Lucky, to anyone trained in molecular biology, some of that is nonsense. The PCR test was abused at times in the pandemic, but you are not talking about specific instances of abuse (which I would agree with), you’re saying “it does not do what is claimed in a clinical sense” — and sigh, no disrespect intended — it absolutely tells us who is at risk of spreading a disease.
Like any good science test PCR is predictive.
If people scored positive for Influenza and negative for covid we can predict 99.99% of the time they did not infect anyone around them with Covid. And if we know the CT number from the PCR test we also get information about what stage of the disease they are at. It doesn’t guarantee in advance who will be asymptomatic and who will end up in ICU, but even some asymptomatic people went on to show lung damage later. Viruses matter. People who tested positive to covid PCR were much more likely to get low Oxy sat numbers, high d-Dimer, more blood clotting, (only until Omicron arrived of course). People who test positive for Covid will go on to test positive for antibodies to Covid. People who test positive to Dengue instead, are likely to go on to show antibodies to Dengue etc.
We don’t know the long term consequences of being infected with Covid, but PCR tests show long lived virus sequences in our tissues for herpes viruses, and other viruses like EBV, and CMV in brain and other tissues, and those who have those sequences are slightly more likely to have increased pathology and mortality decades after they caught them. So the PCR test results identify people at higher risks. PCR is predictive.
Please, don’t rule yourself out of the footsoldiers of truth that we need — the heart of the Scam was not PCR, it was an incidental point.
The scam was:
1. Gain of function experiments that should never have been done.
2. lies about transmission and treatment from China.
3. Lack of accountability (China, Fauci, Big Pharma, Ministers of Health etc. The WHO.)
4. Suppression of free speech, doctors, patients, researchers.
5. Suppression of cheap antivirals and vitamins, exercise and sunlight.
6. Mandatory medical treatments. Lack of informed consent.
7. Lack of proper testing of vaccines. Lack of public records. etc etc.
Every goddam science test is manipulatable. Every scientific assay can be subject to fraud. Don’t confuse the fraud with the assay itself. When people attack PCR as a technique they rule themselves out of the serious medical conversation. Indeed if I was a lying cheating power hungry profiteer, I would pay trolls to trigger skeptics to talk about how “all PCR is fake”, because it would slow them down, make them look silly and be a win for the cheaters.
Sorry to be so blunt. The truth always matters. If mass spectrometry was fraudulently used once, geologists and engineers would wince and cringe when people who didn’t understand the technique declared all mass spec is a tool of greedy politicians or Mining companies.
Soldier on, Lucky, we need you. I’m just suggesting you will be more effective if you fine tune your arguments and drop the global anti-PCR talk.
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The test result of yes/no did as you may be saying give a broad statistical picture of the patient’s condition. That is, it is a research tool. But the test result was used to impose restrictions the purpose of which was theater. The creation of the big scare, fear, masking, lockdowns, a massive transfer of wealth to big Pharma, a large transfer of wealth to the parasitic classes, crush the economy by stopping work, production and services. In Australia the ScottMorrison government postponed the effects by money printing. Results now show via inflation.
The PCR test was the main tool, case results were published daily with serious commentary, the public were urged to get tested, long lines of the righteous formed to do the right thing. Recall, how the PCR thing phased down when the jab phased up.
My position is-
Every clinical use of PCR was an abuse as-
PCR test does not tells us absolutely who is at risk of spreading disease or who has it, or who will spread.
It is not a good science test for what is claimed, it is not predictive for the individual tested.
Your scam list. Next time it will be something else, different testing, different panic modes, but the oppression of individual rights continues, eg the right of free movement, prepare for herding into 15 minute villages.
Point 4.
Yes, appalling how the doctors got suppressed, so few dissenters.
Free speech, governments find ways to get their dirty work done by others.
For the readership-
we know that esteemed Jo is at the forefront of protecting free speech from the mis and dis control mechanisms. Jo, thank you.
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And this is still wrong. The PCR is predictive for the individual. Read my reply again.
Ask yourself this, if the PCR test didn’t exist — would psychopaths still have created a culture of fear, lockdowns, forced vaccinations and made billions in profits and destroyed the dollar with inflation?
That’s why you’re fighting the wrong war.
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Don’t want to get into a rant with anyone, PCR is great if used properly and appropriately. However, it is important, IMO, to mention that in almost every case used for Covid detection that the amplification cycles were excessive, >25, and in a lot of reported cases were run at 40. At that rate you can guarantee you’ll get the result you want. Call me wrong, but I think that is important.
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25 cycles is not excessive. 40 is, but how many is “a lot” — is it “almost every case”?
In Australia, for months on end, we tested 5,000 people to find each case of Covid. Generalizations about the crimes of PCR tests are almost always scientifically wrong.
Does the truth matter? I think it does.
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Jo,
When people say they’ve “had a PCR test”, they’re talking about having had their noses and throats swabbed. They’re not thinking of an expensive machine in a path lab. That *is* the concluding part of the test, and you’re doing a great job of defending it. Fair enough, I’m convinced that the machine gives consistent, repeatable and accurate results.
I don’t think I’m alone in having serious doubts about the rest of the “PCR test”, the parts you don’t seem to be thinking about. The samples have come from *outside* the body. How can any such test conclude that the body is infected? Should it not be verified with internal tests to confirm that the organism (or a response to it) is really circulating? Was COVID frequently a benign disease (as it seems), or were many of the “mild” cases just false positives?
In the Sydney water crisis, a recently introduced test detected squillions of giardia and cryptosporidium organisms in the water supply. Everyone was ordered to boil their drinking water. There was no need. The test was accurate, but it couldn’t tell the difference between living and dead organisms and it was seeing bugs that chlorination had already killed (I presume).
I believe the COVID PCR figures have quite a bit in common with that “crisis”: that there were many cases where the test accurately detected fragments of SARS-CoV-2 trapped in the nose that were already unviable due to UV light or whatever.
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Robert, I’m not sure what you mean by “outside” the body. I’m thinking of nose and throat swabs and they are inside the body. Those viruses have access to our cells.
A CT of 40 in the nose may be picking up unviable inactive fragments. Same with sewage analysis. But CT’s of 15 – 30 correlate with mortality 60 days later. I’ve seen estimates it takes a viral load of 10,000 to start an infection. Obviously a lot of virions are faulty, or fall on the wrong spot, or get cleaned up before they start an infection. But if one active one gets into a cell, we may have 1,000 viruses some 8 – 10 hours later. Or maybe it takes three flawed ones infecting the same cell at the same time to produce one viable infection? Dunno.
Did some health officials exaggerate, absolutely. But that’s a very different thing to saying PCR is sciency voodoo, or that it was central to the scam as earlier commenters were saying.
The forces of darkness would have cheated with or without PCR. It was just another tool. Sometimes useful, sometimes abused.
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Jo,
By “outside” I mean that it’s outside the body’s external defences. I don’t think this perspective is unusual. For example Google turned up this article easily enough.
They’re still outside of the cells though, and you don’t know that they’ve got in. You don’t even know they’re active at all (like Sydney’s old giardia thing).
That it might “correlate with mortality” is not impressive. Let’s see figures on how it correlates with serologically (or otherwise) verified infection. Your reasoning seems to be uncomfortably close to the precautionary principle, but credit to you for the dunno. There should be more of it. I dunno too, but my view of all the COVID testing was that it achieved nothing in disease control. You say it was “sometimes useful”; well, it satisfied the authorities’ urge to do something, provided ammunition for tyrants, and gave a real boost to fear in many people. Topped up the coffers at the pathology labs nicely too.
I’m not that fussed about PCR. The big concern is that our authorities have come out of this debacle apparently none the wiser. Look at the UK inquiry where they’re prattling on about “should have locked down earlier/harder”. Nongs. Fortunately COVID was pretty mild, but if a truly dangerous disease turns up and we start piffling around with masks, lockdowns, essential workers, etc., the survivors will have learnt a painful lesson.
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Lucky, that’s a great outline below.
Jo makes the case that the PCR test is a valid and extremely useful tool in dealing with the problems faced: realistically I am not in a position to comment on the finer details because I’m not qualified in that area of science. Nevertheless I think that you are both correct in your statements, as Jo says, in the right hands PCRs are a good valid test but as you are saying they, the PCRs have been used out of context and more like a weapon of mass control .
One of my own comments giving an example of how scientific concepts can be misunderstood has been ” isolated ” from view:
https://joannenova.com.au/2023/12/nz-whistleblower-finds-death-rate-from-one-batch-of-injections-was-21-gets-arrested/#comment-2717690
[Your transparent attempt to take the thread off topic to discuss something irrelevant that we have already discussed to death was noted. Please don’t. – Jo]
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In Germany the amplifation cycles were 40
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Yo don’t take into account the false positive and false negative results that were known to go into the thousands per day.
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that is not correct.
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Proof ?
Public Health England reports that RT-PCR assays show a specificity of over 95%, meaning that up to 5% of cases are false positives. The impact of false positive results includes risk of overestimating the COVID-19 incidence, the demand on track and trace, and the extent of asymptomatic infection.
We conducted an in-depth case review of five patients with initially negative RT-PCR results among the 145 patients with COVID-19 confirmed by RT-PCR testing (Table 1). This false-negative rate of 3.45% is comparable to that reported in a systematic review, which found a false-negative RT-PCR rate of 2–29%
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You provide no proof for a statement and then want proof for someone who thinks it is nonsense. Well done Einstein.
you’ve also misinterpreted the data there for false positives. There were not 5% false positives. “Specificity of 95% is a meaningless stat. False negatives on the other hand are a mix of the PCR missing an actual signal, poor swabbing missing the actual virus and minimal virus in the swab zone.
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Correct.
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Re the efficacy of the RAT tests & the PCRs:
Husband & I recently contracted a rather nasty cold – upper respiratory only, no aches or pains etc. First RAT test was negative. Visited a clinic & were given PCR tests – which returned Positive for Covid for both of us. Went home & tried another RAT – a different brand. Still negative for both of us.
Go figure.
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Vicki, yes, home done RAT tests are less reliable, especially when self administered, and even more so when they are designed to detect an old variant. PCR is much more accurate (assuming the lab is honest).
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On the occasions I had to do RATs during various hospital visits, I was simply given the Chinese-made kit, directed to a chair in a corner of a general waiting room and told to follow the instructions. ALWAYS came back NEGATIVE.
Made, according to the boxes, in the same part of China where this whole rock-show got started.
Is it in any way surprising that some of the locals hereabouts are becoming a little “restless”?
The official dissembling and outright lies on this and many other issues are now totally out of control
NOTHING coming out of Academia, the entire LSM, pubic serpents, pollie-muppets, etc.on ANY subject, should be given ANY credence, EVER.
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Dr John Campbell …Despite World excess death stats above base line during
Covid- sometimes greater than 20%, CDC website says ‘nothing to see here.’
https://rumble.com/v3y43xn-high-excess-deaths-in-2023.html
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Dr John Campbell …Despite World excess death stats above base line during
Covid- sometimes greater than 20%, CDC website says ‘nothing to see here.’
https://rumble.com/v3y43xn-high-excess-deaths-in-2023.html
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Read naomi wolf if you want to find out how these jabs were actually developed and tested and what was actually known by the pharma industry. You may come away with a different opinion. Everything you think you know about covid is a lie.
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Ahh John, that is apart from vitamin D, ivermectin etc? Than again, is there any actual proof the vaccines had any beneficial impact or net beneficial impact?
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Gawd, why must we pretend ‘they meant well’?
How obvious does the global political assault, wearing a ‘Pandemic’ disguise, have to be?
One biggy …
one would think that billionaire buddies of Jeffery Epstein, that are oh so concerned about Climate Change and viral outbreaks, and a world organization that is so earnestly concerned about ‘world health’…
would give a schwit about the origin of the ‘novel’ virus.
Jeez, they ruined people that dared to asked.
Is there an official science ‘consensus’ origin story yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSfejgwbDQ8
Odd how science only gets followed when it leads to the politically opportune place.
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John @ #15 mentions the time period for drug development but I’d add that it is NOT POSSIBLE to develop a new drug inside one year. Maybe DARPA had been working on the modality for years but I cannot see how the Fizr shot could possibly be tested in such a short time frame. The fact that they had the trail results locked away for decades is a dead give away.
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Not NZ but –
“Red Flags Everywhere: 2023 Sees Alarming Rise in Excess Deaths Across America!”
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-12-04/red-flags-everywhere-2023-sees-alarming-rise-excess-deaths-across-america
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And
“FDA Shuts Down Enquiries About DNA Contamination In COVID Vaccines”
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/fda-shuts-down-enquiries-about-dna-contamination-covid-vaccines
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I think we have one here folks.
How this is handled tells much.
And what do we get?
Assault on the messenger.
Which makes the message clear.
(Hardly surprising after three years of assaults on messengers.)
Jo … praises.
I’ve been checking in to see what was being said about this … expecting a discussion on open thread.
This is the thread … unraveling?
To me the AGW Yellow Brick Road has lead here.
I just heard the beacon of science wisdom John Kerry say that health and climate crisis are one.
Yep.
One big pungent pile.
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I’d love to see the complete data released – there is a huge red flag with 2000 excess deaths in NZ in 2021 during vax program (+12% over 2020 same period) while there were only 29 covid deaths for whole of 2021 (30 in 2020) and just 2000 covid cases up to near end of vax program in oct 2021 (12000 covid cases for whole of 2021 mostly omicron in last month or two). But I am dubious about these claims – like could this be a vaccination program in a cancer ward or old persons home?
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Foyle. Your cautions- dealt with in Steve Kirsch’s blog.
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Jo writes: “Isn’t this one of the most important questions in the country today?”
Anyone remember the pre-Crockdown, practice-run phrase, ‘flooding the zone’? They’re BAAACK! Apart from Monday’s brief press release about Winston Smith’s ‘breach of trust’, arrest and court appearance – to a standing ovation from a packed courthouse no less – more, MUCH MORE, important questions have been foisted upon the PTSD shell-shocked sh!tizens, like, um, ah, I mean to say: Te Part Maori party blocked NZ’s highways and main roads Tuesday morning after a “surprisingly quick and well organised” 24-hour notice campaign, on the same day the ménage a trois government was sworn in, where members [literally] of above party pledged allegiance to ‘King Scab’, ironically the representative of the co-signee, ie. the Crown / C0R0N@, of their 1840 Treaty of Waitangi (water + funeral/tears).
But wait, there’s more: homeowner rates to rise ~20%, school kids are getting dumber and dumberer, November was NZ’s “10th hottest” and “most wettest” on record, the inquiry into the 2019 Ides of March psy-op focuses on the aftermath – not the lead-up to it, and some family squabble that’s been ongoing for 3,500 years over in the Levant is still a freak ‘n’ nightmare. Why would the useless eaters, as Ki666inger called us, be concerned about yet another coincidence theorist? Besides, it’s almost summer holidays and people have to go shopping…
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Along with these ‘rushing rulette pricks’, the gaslighting about “Safe and effective” when faced with 156 X increase in case rate, 10 x increase in death rate, 10 x increase in hospitalisation rate, and last but not least the unexpected voluntary departure of PM/ Premiers who suddenly don’t see a need to work any more.
The 30 Min inquisition of 2 stooges from Pfizer in a senate hearing was pitiful.
If “Safe and effective” were true, why Jail the whistleblower? It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few years.
I am a little biased, having lost my Father through nosocomial covid (not acknowledged by the coroner!) with the obligatory euthanasia at RPH and an elder jabbed up brother who got two turbocancers for his 60th birthday and died 4 months later.
On the positive side, the rate of jabbing has plummeted, and >90% of the population are abstaining from the Koolaid now.
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As a 100% abstainee from the start, I’m pleasantly surprised I’m still alive, though more and more ‘sleeve-rollers for Cindy’ are dropping by the day. My condolences to you and yours, and everyone else who lost loved ones. Crime of the century (?) or worse to come…
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You will see more and more of these coverups now as the Left and other purveyors of the defective “vaccines” seek to cover their crimes.
Why do you think they are now pushing censorship and “disinformation” (sic) laws so heavily?
Just remember, the excuses of “we didn’t know” and “I was just following orders” didn’t work for the National Socialists and it eventually is not going to work for you (vaccine pushers) either.
Don’t forgive. Don’t forget. Prosecute.
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David. A direct result/follow on from the covid dress rehearsal is the WHO pandemic treaty. This treaty will explicitly support ‘just following orders’ and censorship and prosecutions for information not supporting the official agenda.
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Good point, Steve.
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“When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime you are being ruled by criminals”
Edward Snowden
“Why would any politician, anywhere, need an exemption to a perfectly “safe and effective” (“vaccine”) that they forced on their people? The cultists need to wake up, and people need to stand up against medical tyrants violating their bodies.”
Michael Breton
New Zealand must be an interesting place to be in.
Yesterday, a statistician reveals information on excess deaths and is immediately arrested without bail.
https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/shocker-foia-request-reveals-11000
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https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/why-does-the-government-cover-up
Incidently, if you Google for data on vaxxine injuries like all cause mortality for instance, you will find it hard to get away from vested interest government and media propaganda. So called ‘fact checker’ sites are there aplenty for those who are’nt free thinkers.
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People have been calling for big government to provide them everything and solve all their problems. Well, big government did just that and put it in a vaccine!
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what is the evidence that the vaccine was the problem?
The data was from the height of the Omicron wave
The spike was only recorded in some batches – if the vaccine was to be implicated, it should show up in all batches
The spike was only recorded in some locations – again it should have shown up in all locations
There is no reported link between vaccinated vs unvaccinated
Good example of correlation error – and this ‘right to choice’ “statistician” fails basic statistics.
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Get a better chat bot.
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The CNN bots aren’t much, are they…
Have no fear, AGI’s almost here. 😉
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” vaccine was the problem…?”
Certainly they had some apparently highly significant batch related issues: (the chart Figure 1 shows the picture clearly)
SAEs are Severe Adverse Events.
Batch related SAE Pfizer COVID vaccine
Batch-dependent safety of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccine
Max Schmeling, Vibeke Manniche, Peter Riis Hansen
First published: 30 March 2023 https://doi.org/10.1111/eci.13998
Article link:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/eci.13998
Vaccine batches representing the blue, green and yellow trendlines comprised 4.22%, 63.69% and 32.09% of all vaccine doses, respectively, with
70.78%, 27.49% and 47.15% (blue trendline),
28.84%, 71.50% and 51.99% (green trendline), and
0.38%, 1.01%, and 0.86% (yellow trendline)
of all SAEs, serious SAEs, and SAE-related deaths, respectively.
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Right or wrong, shouldn’t it be investigated?
Officially?
And rapidly?
With the discoverer praised, not arrested?
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Statistics / probability / and basic data that should have people saying, “this needs looking into”. None of this is proof. It’s simply a red flag.
The video shows the numbers of reported deaths from covid (NZ covid deaths on World data) and it reasonably matched the number of deaths for that period (according to the whistleblower). The video also shows that when the deaths from covid dropped there were a high number of deaths still occurring. So either the diagnosis of not death from covid was wrong and it was covid, or there was some other cause of an unusually high number of deaths.
Unless the accusation isn’t that every vaccine was bad. But that there may have been some problem batches that increased the risks of issues. That manufacturing or storage or transport quality control was inconsistent enough to affect batches rather than every shot.
Not if the problems relate to bad batches rather than every vaccine shot. My guess is that batches probably largely end up in a particular location. Makes sense from a distribution aspect.
Of course, the problem could lie with the person administering the vaccine which would also be location related.
There is also the possibility that particular batches or people administering the vaccine were mostly associated with elderly people who were in aged care and may have been going to die anyway. Aged people were prioritised (in Aus) which likely increases the chance a certain batch was mostly used on aged people.
Not sure what you’re referring to. But no link being reported in any context is the point of all this. The whistleblower is raising questions based on data. So we’re all wondering where is the data analysis by Govt showing it’s all fine and explainable. Or confirming that there is a problem. As Jo said, instead of the govt coming out and saying this is all BS because of X reasons, they have arrested the whistleblower.
You’re not going to have a link if the data analysis hasn’t been done. And you’re not going to have a link if the analysis has been done and it was decided it’s best to cover it up.
I’m not saying it is the vaccine. I’m just saying where is the analysis and explanation.
Aren’t you curious about that too? Even if you don’t think it’s the vaccine, surely you can see a red flag with some aspect of the whole process that says an analysis and answer is needed. Or would you be satisfied with someone at the TGA raising your points and dismissing it without any further questions?
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Seems you have no idea what a batch is.
Every batch is different from an other batch, may even be produced elsewhere.
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So PF, you’d gladly volunteer to give your family a couple of doses from Batch 1? You wouldn’t want it even investigated before giving them the batch 1 jab?
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In most vaccine manufacturing processes (and indeed in most pharmaceutical manufacturing processes) there are differences between batches.
Sometimes entire batches of vaccine are rejected and we have to deal with shortages.
That’s why there are very stringent registration requirements strictly regulating the procedures.
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Pfizer covid vaccines: Pfizer used two different manufacturing processes.
The one used for manufacturing was not the one used for registration and testing. This switching processes is absolutely unheard of in normal vaccine registration processes. Even a change to an unregistered reagent will get you locked down by regulatory bodies. In the normal world.
Pfizer covid vaccines for the clinical trials were mostly produced using manufacturing ‘process 1’ whereas the vaccines used for population vaccination were produced using a different ‘process 2’
Excerpts from a letter to the BMJ discussing the issue (13 May 2023)
https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj.o1731/rr-2
from Josh A Guetzkow Senior Lecturer
Retsef Levi, Professor, MIT Hebrew University
Mt. Scopus, Jerusalem @joshg99, @RetsefL
Dr John Cambell MD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBJ5ioMo7Ek
Pfizer covid vaccines for the clinical trials were mostly produced using manufacturing ‘process 1’ whereas the vaccines used for population vaccination were produced using a different ‘process 2’
Interview with Josh Guetzkow PhD
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Cherry-picking extreme outliers mean little without looking at the whole dataset, it may be nothing more than random chance. You don’t know who that batch was administered to. If they were all over 70 years old, then the mortality rate is actually lower than expected.
NZ Mortality statistics indicate a small uptick around the time of post-lockdown COVID-19 exposure but that is far more likely to be due to the virus than the vaccine.
https://infoshare.stats.govt.nz/infoshare/ViewTable.aspx?pxID=eb1c9679-3ef6-476c-9fa3-de8f414801d2
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plus there was a mortality increase from other communicable diseases post-lockdown because of the lack of exposure during lockdown(s).
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Step right up Simon. Be part of the investigation. Volunteer to have a couple of jabs of Batch 1 yourself. I mean there’s nothing to see here. All jabs are good, right?
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NZ was one of the few countries to report no excess mortalities during this period.
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Yeah. Propaganda does exactly that.
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You have to be joking !!! You must be reading a lot of fairy tales.
Here are the OECD stats https://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?queryid=104676
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Your data and markx’s graph actually support what I wrote. You “neglected” to compare to other countries.
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Bad rhetorical point as ‘excess deaths’ refers to a comparison of data for a time period compared to an estimate for that time period from other time period data in the same jurisdiction.
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But Lucky, you are ignoring the fact that the whole world is the WHO’s jurisdiction.
Because the whole of the WHO’s jurisdiction had similar bumps shortly after the VaXXinations there was nothing out of the ordinary in the data being contested.
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Which was fluctuating around zero for NZ
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Comparison to other countries. US UK Aus NZ.
Vaccination started late 2020 or early 2021. So 2021 is the ‘year of Covid vaccination’.
Note the excess mortality peaks in US and UK early 2021, and latter part of the year for Aus and NZ.
Also note all showed excess mortality throughout 2022 and into 2023.
Unravelling Covid infections from Covid vaccination adverse events deaths should have been entirely possible, but was not done.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-projected-baseline?country=NZL~AUS~GBR~USA
Aus: The Australian Government COVID-19 vaccination program began on 22 February 2021
US: Vaccinations in the United States began on December 14, 2020.
UK: Vaccinations began on 8 December 2020
NZ: The first dose of the Pfizer vaccine in New Zealand was administered on February 19, 2021.
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NZ, “..no excess mortality…”?
Certainly did.
Excess mortality during the Coronavirus pandemic (COVID-19)
HomeCoronavirusExcess mortality
by Charlie Giattino, Hannah Ritchie, Esteban Ortiz-Ospina, Joe Hasell, Lucas Rodés-Guirao and Max Roser
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-projected-baseline?country=~NZL
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Given that this all about government fraud, lies, corruption and democide, the concept of a demonstrably bought-by-the-WEF government providing truthful data is ridiculous, especially given all the available information now available.
But no doubt the beacon of truth for the blind, CNN, says differently.
Some people aren’t going to make it to the other side of this, and they only have themselves to blame.
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This excess deaths chart for NZ shows notable number of excess deaths in NZ through 2022 and 2023.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?country=~NZL
Which period are you thinking of?
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NZ Covid lockdown was March – May 2020. Gee Aye is correct.
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But vaccinations were not occurring until end of 2021 and the period of deaths referred to in the vaccination data is 2022 and 2023.
Nothing to do with lockdown period in 2020 before covid vaccinations.
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Aus: The Australian Government COVID-19 vaccination program began on 22 February 2021
US: Vaccinations in the United States began on December 14, 2020.
UK: Vaccinations began on 8 December 2020
NZ: The first dose of the Pfizer vaccine in New Zealand was administered on February 19, 2021.
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That’s redundant: he’s always correct.
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And you believe that ?
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Steve Kirsch has been through the data with a fine tooth comb (well before this became public, because he had been in regular contact with the whistleblower for a few months). He has had his stats guys look at it. They all say it is “kosher”
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Of those that feared Covid to catch,
Might get jabbed from a bad vaccine batch,
And result where injected,
Fared worse than infected,
And 1 in 5 of ‘protected’ dispatch.
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All eyes on das novel NZ gubermint.
Will they show some integrity, or just be more of the same-old false hope WEF puppets like Italy’s Meloni turned out to be, as I suggested she would be.
Doing the same thing and expecting different results…
Electing more-false-promises pollies and expecting different results.
Nothing will happen as the political and financial ramifications would destroy the NZ economy (and the WEF on high would make damn sure NZ pays for their betrayal) and NO pollie would let that happen on their watch, and affect their careers.
This will only end one way.
But even the WEF is cracking from the inside now.
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Nice assertion at the end JC, but what are you seeing?
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The lack of an open thread.
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I wonder when the Team from The QoVax program are going to break ranks.
Crickets!!!
OOPS!!
I wonder what would have happened in Auschwitz if the guards at the Gas Chamber had thought the gas was a safe and effective treatment for their lice? You would run out of healthy Team members fairly quickly.
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Just think of the conga line of those involved in forcing these vaccines on people.’Forcing’ in terms of the cost of refusal. There’s most cabinet politicians, bureaucrats and the huge numbers of doctors, and nurses, that injected the ‘vaccine’ knowing there had been no full research into the safety of that injected. Thalidamide was recently ‘apologised’ for by our PM. In the long run, this stuff, by official refusal to open the books, will make thalidamide look tame. What happened to the AMA and other doctors associations that forgot they had an oath of ‘first do no harm’ that applied, to defend?
It reminds one of the manic response by western world leaders to the AGW theory. No proof-dependent care, but total refusal of responsibility for all detrimental economic outcomes. This blog raised these matters during the pandemic; met by official silence, as now. Imagine the fear in official circles now if this whistleblower stimulates a huge public response, demanding explanations for the lost lives of loved ones, if due to the vaccine per se. No wonder the bloke is charged on accessing and revealing information from an official computer. Such an extraordinary response must surely only stimulate officially unwanted interest in the entire question of COVID-19 vaccination. That leads to asking why other drug therapies were banned, to the extent of a gaol warning for doctors prescribing them.
Remember the papers on the vaccine developments are supposed to be sealed for ~75years. The leakage will be plugged no doubt on that basis.
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Great bit of sarcasm from Sesh (@dertysesh) X -twitter. h/t Craig Kelly.
WHISTLEBLOWER ARRESTED IN NZ FOR LEAKING VAX DATA!
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If Musk had not bought Twitter, we wouldn’t be able to see this.
Us peasants are stuck in the battle between billionaires.
Once upon a time, we were able to gather a defense, and fight back.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Golden_Spurs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Visby
With mixed results.
The last time the Barons fought was called WWI.
The third might eventually be called The Pandemic.
Curious to see which ends with highest body count.
I hope the good billionaire wins.
Guess the new battle cry is GFY.
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Yes!
But he also shouts the real question at his TV.
MSM reporter asks if the Health department has followed up the whistleblower leak and reported it to the Office of People’s info security when she should have asked: “Was the information provided by the whistle blower True or Not?
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Canadian Government and Media Colluded To ‘Instill Fear,’ Coerce Citizens Into Taking Vaccines
The 5,000-page report detailed how the COVID-19 response by the government was vastly irresponsible, unscientific, and against basic human rights.
The NCI report is based on the testimony of more than 300 members of the public and expert witnesses.
Although subpoenas were issued to 63 members of the government, authorities, and regulators, none of them appeared at the hearing to give testimony.
In his remarks during the hearing, NCI Commissioner and Chairperson Ken Drysdale said the testimonies “provide irrefutable evidence that an unprecedented assault has been waged against the citizens of Canada,” according to a Nov. 28 statement.
“Not since World War II has the nation experienced such a devastating attack on its people,” he said. “Many public and private bodies such as schools, medical providers and regulators, unions, justice and policing all failed Canadians. These institutions and individuals must also be held to account.”
The report recommends that the “current use of COVID-19 genetic vaccines in Canada that were authorized under the revised provisions of the Interim Order and the newly revised Food and Drug Regulations, should be stopped immediately.”
https://nationalcitizensinquiry.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/NCI-FINAL-REPORT-FULL-Inquiry-into-the-Appropriateness-and-Efficacy-of-the-COVID-19-Response-in-Canada-November-28-2023.pdf
/not CNN-sheeple-safe material
/but at least the government data was honest eh…
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https://www.australiannationalreview.com/covid-19/silent-no-more-the-story-that-must-be-told-about-the-c0vid-vaxxine-in-nz/
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Heart Failure Among Pilots Up 1000% in 2022
“New data from the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) indicates a significant increase in heart issues among pilots, with heart failure spiking nearly 1,000% in 2022. Lieutenant Ted Macie, an active-duty officer with the U.S. Navy Medical Service Corps, raised concerns about the health risks associated with the COVID-19 shots, including heart-related ailments. The data, obtained from the Pentagon’s Defense Medical Epidemiology Database, shows drastic spikes in various diagnoses for serious medical issues, prompting questions about the potential impact of the COVID-19 vaccine on the health of service members.
In addition to serious cardiovascular issues, the Pentagon saw significant spikes in numerous ailments well beyond their five-year averages including hypertension (2,181%), neurological disorders (1,048%), multiple sclerosis (680%), Guillain-Barre syndrome (551%), breast cancer, (487%), female infertility (472%), pulmonary embolism (468%), migraines (452%), ovarian dysfunction (437%), testicular cancer (369%), and tachycardia (302%). Heart-related ailments have soared over the past 5 years as well including hypertension (36%), ischemic heart disease (69%), pulmonary heart disease (62%), heart failure (973%), cardiomyopathy (152%), and other non-specified heart diseases (63%).
The findings have reignited discussions about the safety and efficacy of the vaccine mandate for military personnel. A 1000% increase in heart failures among pilots in just one year is cause for major concern. Why must we continually force service members to take these vaccines when we know they are likely unsafe?”
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/heart-failure-among-pilots-up-1000-in-2022/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS
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New blog post from Robert Malone:
Testimony in UK Parliament: Show us the data!
– https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/testimony-in-uk-parliament-show-us
Transcript on his substack page.
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Close the windows, turn up the air conditioning.
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Good advice for the hot day we’re about to have today, but was there any link to the topic of my comment?
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“Warp speed Vaccines” (gene therapies) emergency use authorization . DID PEOPLE REALY EXPEXT BETTER .
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Can’t argue with that logic , short sharp and straight to the point .
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Figure it out guy and girls, it’s pretty simple, trust in your instincts or your decernment, it the little quiet voice inside ya that speaks truth 👍😉❤️
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Just for emphasis, quotes from the Steve Kirsch newsletter:
Data from the New Zealand Ministry of Health shows that the COVID vaccines have killed over 10 million worldwide.
. . record-level data showing vaccine timing and death date. There is no confusion any longer: the vaccines are unsafe and have killed, on average, around 1 person per 1,000 doses.
The COVID vaccines are the deadliest vaccine of all time, killing an estimated 13 million people worldwide.
My question,
What vaccines brands are discussed here?
I have looked but am still uncertain. I assume Pfizer, but Moderna is mentioned. Elsewhere I have seen mention that New Zealand has used Pfizer, AstraZeneca, and maybe Janssen and Novavax.
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In the video Barry makes it clear the worst batches were all Pfizer.
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Russia would not have lost 21% of their cosmonauts. Even landing on Omaha Beach would have been safer.
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As far as I read the one and the other contract in parts, Poland has little chance as the contracts exclude changes because of changes in the health situation and reduced risk of infections.
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Given that the Australian Government will sign anything woke put in front of it, I wonder if Australia has a similar contract and if the Government is going to buy the juice and force it into us when the highly anticipated US Election Variant is released.
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Interview with Barry Young and Steve Kirsch.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/tecoTtMBTz6v/
It’s Alex Jones.
So?
The previously disgraced are looking much better in the daylight.
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[…] JoNova […]
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A “world wide data grab” on that
“In viral news yesterday, mRNA contamination researcher Kevin McKernan suddenly and unexpectedly reported that his entire lab’s data, including all his ongoing projects, was deleted by the authorities — because he hosted a downloadable copy of New Zealand’s jab-death data:”
More here –
https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/privacy-please-wednesday-december?r=1vxw0k&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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No back-up somewhere ?
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Modern democracy.
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Check the comment from the California fireman.
Only a few in.
The fire may be bigger than we think.
On the bright side, there may be some fun in seeing how far they go, and how long they can hide the smoke.
You see smoke*?
Not me.
I see nothing.
*(If there is smoke, that nobody sees, it’s caused by Climate Change.)
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I think that the NZ data must be relevant for Australia too! So why isn’t our Government taking a more in-depth interest and comparing the excess deaths we have experienced and have been exposed here? It just consolidates the suggestion of a global conspiracy at high levels, IMO!
I read an earlier comment about a formally organized control group too: vaxcontrolgroup.com thought about signing up for about 10 seconds and then realised that infamous government agencies could subvert the data and profiles for retributive actions. For the same reasons I won’t be signing up for the proposed digital ID on the MyGov website
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Penguinite,
It sounds like a silly idea anyway because it can’t be done.
Think of how a controlled experiment is meant to be run: you recruit people to the experiment and randomly assign them to either treatment or control. The random assignment gives you *some* assurance that differences between the groups are due to the treatment. You can’t say “Whoops, forgot the control group” then go out and recruit a bunch of your buddies afterwards. It’s just too likely that differences will be due to differences in the recruits themselves and you learn nothing new about effect of the treatment.
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I guess the next regression for New Zimbabwe is to return to fully indigenous tribal rule and technology with constant wars with other tribes, primitive agriculture trying to grow tropical crops in a colder environment and hunter gathering, lack of advanced medical knowledge. No more giant birds to eat however, the Māori already rendered those extinct. Much the same as other primitive peoples.
And if you thought life was so peaceful there before European settlement, why do you think the Māori have such a warrior culture? Who were they fighting against if not each other? Certainly there was no possibility of Australian Aborigines invading because they didn’t have boats (apart from primitive rafts or bark canoes) or navigation.
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The Maoris chased and all but destroyed the original NZ inhabitants, the Moriori, (another pre-Maori Melanesian group) off the North Island and eventually forced them to re-settle on what is now Chatham Island.
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Re-reading James Belich’s 1986 ‘The New Zealand Wars: and the Victorian Interpretation of Racial Conflict’, concerning the troubles of the 1860s.
In the words of the time, those bloody savages outwitted the British time after time, what oh chaps! Bring in the big guns and let’s teach them some wholesome Christian values, guffaw chortle tallyho!
We all got here by boat, but these days, some fly in on their private jets, purchase citizenship, bugger off back to their mansions in the mythical land of milk and honey, Arcadia, the New World, wherever, then tell us we have to ‘save the planet’.
As Taj Mahal sung: The battle is over, but the war goes on.
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GeeAye and Simon are remarkable people. (or bots?)
They argue against every single point published in these pages.
That is unusual, we all find things we agree and disagree with.
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you’re right!
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The World needs New Zealand Covid Vax Data
NZ vaccinated prior to a Covid outbreak, so vaccine and infectious outcomes can be seperately analysed.
Vejon Health
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IswVM5FLaE
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[…] https://joannenova.com.au/2023/12/nz-whistleblower-finds-death-rate-from-one-batch-of-injections-was… […]
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Here are the links to which batch is which.
http://howbad.info/
http://howbad.info/pfizer.html
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Thanks Peter!
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It pains me greatly that despite my warnings, in order to see her new grand-daughter, my wife got two jabs. My unvaccinated status has limited my travels and access but my health (at 70) is still good. My wife has had lots of odd ills and chills but seems to gradually be getting better. Quite a few of my multi-jabbed contemporaries have passed due to the aggressive recurrence of old cancers and various heart-related ailments. Getting this info out there is an important part of our return from this dystopic dilemma.
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It’s such a crime, forcing people to take injections to see their grandchildren. :- ( Sorry to hear.
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