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    New Journal of Climate Study Reduces Doubled CO2 Climate Sensitivity By 40%, To 0.72°C

    A new study (Chen et al., 2023) published in Journal of Climate assesses doubling CO2 from 380 to 760 ppm only yields 2.26 W/m², 1.71 W/m², and 0.55 W/m² forcing at the TOA, surface, and troposphere, respectively. These forcing values represent 0.72°C, 0.55°C, and 0.18°C temperature differentials, respectively (0.32°C/W/m²).
    The global mean surface temperature forcing for doubled CO2, 0.55°C, would by itself appear to already cast doubt on claims that all or nearly all of the post-1850 >1°C warming could have been driven by anthropogenic CO2 forcing.

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      RickWill

      Doubled CO2 Climate Sensitivity By 40%, To 0.72°C

      So half right. Knock off another 0.714C and they will be on the money.

      On a positive note. Melbourne has a summers day. At least till around midday. But no particular weather is Melbourne lasts very long.

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    Steve

    “Battery-powered electric vehicles will only ever capture 30% of global market share, the Chairman of Toyota has predicted, raising concerns about consumers’ willingness to align with Net Zero goals.”
    https://dailysceptic.org/2024/01/23/electric-cars-will-never-dominate-market-says-toyota/
    Yes. EVs will become a bit like massive gas guzzlers, just playthings for those with more money than intelligence.
    This raises the interesting point that with low take up of EVs, it becomes economically unviable to install a charging infrastructure outside of large cities.

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      John Hultquist

      Cities have numerous multi-story (1) parking garages and (2) large apartment complexes. Should even half of the spaces used for parking autos be adapted for charging, the spike in electrical demand will exceed supply capability.
      In rural areas, all places will need on-site chargers. In cold areas these will need a battery_cosy™ [aka warmer].
      Installing, maintaining, and use of remote chargers will bring a host of difficult, perhaps dangerous, issues.

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        RickWill

        Should even half of the spaces used for parking autos be adapted for charging

        The die has already been cast for banning chargers from any enclosed or multilevel space. No prudent insurer would insure against fire in such circumstance.

        A couple of years ago I was asked if my car was battery powered when boarding the Spirit of Tasmania. My car is diesel fuelled so no issue for me. I do not know what the loading requirement is for EVs. As far as I can find, there is no policy limiting the number of EVs. I do not know if they are paying a premium for the trip. The vessel operator would know how many EVs they have on a voyage because the vehicle make is part of booking its transport.

        Tasmania is encouraging EV ownership by eliminating stamp duty on the purchase. It would be a rude awakening for owners if Spirit of Tasmania bans them like the Norwegian ferry operators. When insurers increase premiums for EV cargos I bet the cost will be spread across the ICE owners as well.

        AMSA have a new alert on RORO transport of EVs:
        https://www.amsa.gov.au/vessels-operators/domestic-commercial-vessels/dcv-safety-alert-022023-risks-associated-carriage
        Quite a damning list of risks associated with them. Any RORO ferry operator in Australia is now exposed to class action for negligence if an EV fire on a vessel causes widespread damage. They have been officially warned.

        It will get to the point where people will avoid them like the plague. Cross the street to avoid walking past them. Leave nasty note when one found parked in an underground carpark. Eventually insurers will make owning one a nightmare.

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      Speaking of charging infrastructure, a co in the UK is setting up a charging network that will allow charging for 100 miles use, in five minutes.

      I thought frequent rapid charging was very harmful or has battery technology changed? Anyone know?

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        Graeme#4

        Yes. But exactly by how much, difficult to say as the battery manufacturers are loath to release the full tech specs of their batteries. One spec said 1500 full charges, but of course accelerated charging would shorten that number.
        Although old now, the Jeff Dahn presentation “Making batteries Better” is a worthwhile watch, as Jeff was an advisor to Musk.
        Certainly Tesla and others go to a lot of effort to control their normal EV charging, but high-speed charging bypasses most of their charge limiting circuits in the vehicle.
        In fact, one EV had a mechanism that limited the amount of fast charges that could be used within a defined time period.

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        Russell

        I recall reading, a few months ago,that too frequent fast charging may void an EV battery’s warranty. Can anyone comment/elucidate?

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        RickWill

        I thought frequent rapid charging was very harmful or has battery technology changed?

        Rapid charging will diminish cycle life for all existing batteries.

        There are solid electrolyte batteries that might overcome or reduce that problem but there are none in the market place yet. China has solid state batteries in testing. The first car with them is the DongFeng E70.

        Solid electrolyte should also reduce the fire hazard but it will a couple of decades for existing fire prone batteries to die or self-cremate out.

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      CO2 Lover

      For private buyers the most likely buyers of EVs are the wealthy woke with a two car garage with a Tesla for taking the kids to school and to go shopping with an ICE BMW or Merc for longer trips – so that there is no need for any public charging.

      Coulld be a reason that recharging companies are going bust – a lot of money spent for public charging points with very few users.

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    CO2 Lover

    This paper also notes the following

    CO2 forcing is identified as highly variable and latitudinally dependent. At some locations, such as over Antarctica, doubled CO2 TOA forcing is negative, or below 0 W/m².

    “The [doubled CO2] forcing in polar regions is strongly hemispheric asymmetric and is negative in the Antarctic.”

    This means that, as CO2 increases, its impact actually cools Antarctica. This contradicts the IPCC claim that CO2 climate sensitivity is amplified at the poles. It also undermines the alarmist claim that Antarctic ice melt (and consequent catastrophic sea level rise) is driven by CO2.

    Therefore even if there is some more “global warming” (which will increase crop yields) this will not cause a rise in sea levels due to melting of ice in Antarctica.

    So one of the greatest “Climate Change” fears being promoted by the Climate Cultists is a none event.

    https://www.antarctica.gov.au/news/2023/cool-change-for-west-antarctica/

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    CO2 Lover

    The Climate Cultists are always predicting that “the sky is falling” so it always worthwhile revisiting their failed predictions from time to time.

    Makes you laugh if so much money was not being wasted based on these failed predictions.

    Note the prediction of Greta Thumberg made 5 years ago on 21 July 2018

    “A top climate scientist is warning that climate change will wipe out all of humaity unless we stop using fossil fuells over the next 5 years”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/failed-prediction-timeline/

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      John Hultquist

      I don’t know St. Greta’s mind, but I think the emphasis was on the “stop” part and not the “will wipe out” part.
      In any case, ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere will likely continue to rise unless and until Mother Earth decides otherwise.
      When we will become toast, St. Greta has not yet said, as far as I know. I’m 97% sure a lot of heat is being diverted to boiling of the oceans, so we are safe for a while.

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      Bruce

      This entire rock-show has only EVER been about the epic-scale “redistribution ” of the peasant’s cash, property, liberty and lives.

      All of this has been made abundantly clear from the start, and in the actual words of the guilty bastardds.

      For example:

      “”To capture the public imagination, we have to offer up some scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements and little mention of any doubts one might have. Each of us has to decide the right balance between being effective, and being honest.”

      Dr. Stephen Schneider, Greenhouse Superstar / Leading greenhouse advocate, in an interview for “Discover” magazine, Oct 1989

      See also:

      “We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.“ – Timothy Wirth, president of the UN foundation.

      “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” – Maurice Strong, Founder of the UN Environment Programme (UNEP)

      “To capture the public imagination, we have to offer up some scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements and little mention of any doubts one might have. Each of us has to decide the right balance between being effective, and being honest.” – Dr. Stephen Schneider, Leading greenhouse advocate, close friend of Al Gore AND major advisor to the IPCC! [Link to IPCC debunk site] in interview for “Discover” magazine, Oct 1989

      “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.” – Christiana Figueres, Executive secretary of U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change.

      Thus: the road to Hell is NOT paved with “good intentions”; it is paved with the lies and general sociopathy of the totalitarian statists and is built on the corpses of those who get in the way.

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        CO2 Lover

        “Net Zero” is just a rebadging of Pol Pot’s “Year Zero”.

        The end objective is just the same and no doubt the means to get there will be the same.

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    CO2 Lover

    It is not only Teslas catching on fire in people’s garages

    With the growing popularity of e-bikes and e-scooters these are being recharged in houses and appartments with resulting fires

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tkqFYj1rXk

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      John Hultquist

      I suspect that the battery fire issue will be solved in 5 years for new autos. Older batteries will go away — some not quietly.

      The e-bike and e-scooter issue will be a tougher thing to solve. Apparently, the low cost of entry means cheap batteries can be made by many, and some even {I don’t understand this} are refurbished.

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        Earl

        Is there an app for that? Seems LG have one. Well for their faulty residential energy storage system batteries (ESS Home Batteries) that is.

        Sitting down to dinner last night and their tv ad/community service announcement flashed up which of itself was quite disconcerting but then looking into it further and you find that the recall apparently started way back in February 2021.

        Possibly in similar fashion to all those shingles ads that started after that recent/ongoing(?) community arm event I’m guessing this problem isn’t going away and instead continues to grow – hence wider publicity.

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        Robert Swan

        the battery fire issue will be solved in 5 years for new autos

        That’s the issue of spontaneously incinerating while charging I guess. The issue of spontaneously incinerating after an accident might take longer.

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        John Hultquist
        January 24, 2024 at 3:32 am ·….. Apparently, the low cost of entry means cheap batteries can be made by many, and some even {I don’t understand this} are refurbished.

        E bikes are a popular “hobby” as well as a key to the flourishing take away food delivery industry, ebike hire shops, etc
        A keen enthusiast can obtain used cells from laptops, hand tools, stick vacs , etc and reassemble them into a higher voltage , higher capacity, pack for an Ebike.
        Individual new cells are also readily available cheaply.
        Those packs can be very unpredictable and dangerous depending on the skill/ knowledge level of the builder and the quality of the cells and other components (BmS, chargers, etc) used.
        Concern for the safety of themselves or others is not often high on the list of priorities for some of those people ,

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        This link I have included at the bottom of this Comment is a pretty good overview of ….. ‘Thermal Runaway’ in batteries.

        I actually saw it happen once, when I did a 6 Month attachment in the ‘Battery Room’ during my early days as an Electrical Tradesman in the RAAF.

        That was in a 28V Nickel Cadmium aircraft (Mirage) battery, and that was actually scary, luckily within the confines of a facility specifically designed for battery servicing.

        Note that in one section of the linked article it mentions this: (my bolding here)

        In thermal runaway, the battery cell temperature rises incredibly fast (milliseconds).

        Until you see something like this, it’s hard to imagine how quickly it all happens.

        What Is Thermal Runaway In Batteries?

        Tony.

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          CO2 Lover

          Is having Lithium-ion batteries on commercial planes (or even millitary) planes a good idea.

          What went wrong with the batteries? The review focussed on the 787s lithium-ion batteries for the APU. Initially, it was thought that overvoltage caused heating and fires, but this was found not to be the case. Instead, the cause was found to be a short-circuit within one of the battery cells.

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            Graeme#4

            The 787 lithium battery problem was (hopefully) resolved by inserting more insulation between the batteries, encasing the batteries in a steel container, and venting the container to the outside.

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          Graeme#4

          There has been some talk about newer lithium batteries not using phosphate. But because battery manufacturers don’t release much detail about their batteries, it’s difficult to know whether newer Li-ion batteries will be safer.

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    CO2 Lover

    Converting CO2 into Fuel

    If burning wood is considered to be a “renewable” source of energy – provided it is done in power station like the Drax power station in the UK (But burning wood at home is not!) then surely burning CO2 taken from the atmosphere should also be considered to be renewable.

    One of the side benefits of nuclear power stations is that radiation can be used to split the CO2 molecule and combining it with a water molecule so that methane can be produced which in turn can be turned into longer chained liquid fuel that can power cars, trucks and airplanes.

    Given the Billions that are being spent just to replace coal fired power stations and with battery powered cars not living up to the hype this money could be better spent on developing carbon based fuels for cars and planes using CO2 as a feed stock using nuclear reactors to provide the energy to reform CO2 into a new source of “fossil” fuels.

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      David Maddison

      Radiolysis of CO2 to decompose it is discussed in the following paper.

      I would have thought rendering the C and O radioactive in the process might be a problem.

      https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fenrg.2020.00108/full

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        CO2 Lover

        There is more than one way to skin a cat.

        If the amount of Carbon-14 produced could not be controlled or removed then other approaches such as high temperatures and microwave exposure might be used.

        The radioactive carbon is taken from the atmosphere and incorporated into plant tissues by plant photosynthesis. It is then incorporated into all living organisms by means of the food chain. After an organism dies, its level of carbon-14 gradually declines at a predictable pace, with a half-life of about 5,730 years.

        There is plenty of time to explore other pathways.

        Submariners can survive with Carbon Dioxide levels of 20,000 ppm

        Highest CO2 has ever got was around 7000 ppm during the Cambrian period.

        Atmospheric CO2 is now only 424 parts per million (ppm) in May 2023.

        https://news.mit.edu/2023/engineers-develop-efficient-fuel-process-carbon-dioxide

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    David Maddison

    Digging for oil by hand in Burma. Interesting.

    https://www.facebook.com/share/r/Q5CooxmRAPwRLXmE/

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      CO2 Lover

      In I Ching, one of the earliest Chinese writings cites the use of oil in its raw state without refining was first discovered, extracted, and used in China in the first century BC. In addition, the Chinese were the first to use petroleum as fuel as early as the fourth century BC.

      Meanwhile whale oil in the West from the 16th century through the 19th century, whale oil was used principally as lamp fuel and for producing soap which led to the near extinction of the whales .

      Whale oil was replaced in the late 19th century by cheaper, more efficient, and longer-lasting kerosene (a fossil fuel).

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    CO2 Lover,
    Trees and plants already convert CO2 to fuel and food, with a little oxygen on the side. No need for nukes, use them for electricity.

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    Senator Whitehouse says offshore wind is environmental protection!

    Comments requested on draft law to promote offshore wind
    By David Wojick, Ph.D.
    https://www.cfact.org/2024/01/21/comments-requested-on-draft-law-to-promote-offshore-wind/

    The beginning: “In an unusual step, a US Senator is asking for comments on his draft law designed to “facilitate” offshore wind development. The Senator is Rhode Island’s Sheldon Whitehouse, the greenest Senator going. To say this bill is pro-wind is an understatement. The heading says it is “A BILL To provide for offshore wind energy development…” To “provide for” means we are going to do it. It creates policy.

    The press release with a link to the 82-page draft bill and how to comment is here:
    https://www.whitehouse.senate.gov/news/release/whitehouse-releases-discussion-draft-of-bill-to-improve-offshore-wind-development-process

    The name of this proposed law is a joke all by itself. It is by far the longest bill name I have ever seen: the “Create Offshore Leadership and Livelihood Alignment By Operating Responsibly And Together for the Environment (COLLABORATE) Act.” So, we will be Operating Responsibly for the Environment? Sadly, but not surprisingly, there is nothing about that in the draft.

    For example, the word “whale” does not occur. Nor does the word “mammal,” so there is no reference to the Marine Mammal Protection Act. The word “endangered” is not there, leaving out the Endangered Species Act. The National Environmental Policy Act is mentioned, but mostly to exempt required studies from it.

    We do have a true Mad Hatter instance, however. ”

    Lots more in the article (including a huge undersea power grid). Please share it.

    Just say no to offshore wind.

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    MrGrimNasty

    “The Tesla Model Y’s ascendancy in 2023 marks the first time an electric vehicle secures the top position in Europe’s annual sales report.”

    https://uk.motor1.com/news/705404/tesla-model-y-best-selling-car-europe-2023/

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      CO2 Lover

      How many Teslas are being bought by goverments and woke corporates compared to the general public?

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        MrGrimNasty

        Don’t know, I suspect certain countries (with big subsidies or punitive charges for ice vehicles) distorted the total.

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      Tesla scooped the market by cutting prices dramatically and leveraging the EV angle.
      But at 254,000 sales , in a market that increased 14% to 10+ million last year, that is still only 2.5% of the total !
      You should recall that many manufacturers had major supply chain issues last year,.. a problem that did not affect Tesla a seriously as others such as ford and Toyota
      ..and you may notice that the Tesla was the only EV in in that top 10 list ?

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    MrGrimNasty

    Trudeau, protests, emergency powers wrong.

    https://twitter.com/NetZeroWatch/status/1749854559961272781

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    Steve of Cornubia

    Mrs Wife called me to the TV just now, to see the CEO of Woolworths interviewed about its decision to cease stocking Australia Day merchandise. It was absolutely apalling. Sadly, the interviwer, despite being given multiple opportunities to call him out, went fairly soft on him. I suppose the network relies significantly on advertising revenue from Woolworths.

    That CEO’s most outrageous statements were around his claims that the decision has resulted in the company receiving lots of abuse from “rude” people, and saying that staff in stores were also being abused by people who disagreed with Woolworth’s decision. In essence, he was ‘doing a deplorables’ by characterising the people who support Australia Day as rude and violent. His personal politics, though not expressed specifically, were on clear display and, yet again, we find the least tolerant people sit on the left of the political spectrum.

    By the way, I used to do all my grocery shopping at Woolworths but now go to Coles, and plan to do so for the foreseeable future.

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      CO2 Lover

      go to Coles, and plan to do so for the foreseeable future.

      Coles are nearlly as woke a Woolies – just look at the crap they print on their receipts.

      I went to the local Coles and had to ask where their Australia Day merchandise was.

      It was right down the back and nothing said “Austalia Day” – Just some Australian flags and beach gear.

      I am sure they would have joined Woolies but for the backlash of the “silent majority”.

      It is phoney Aboriginal activists pushing “Invasion Day” who would not be alive today but for Eurpoean Settlement.

      Of the 800,000 box ticking people who self-idendify as “First Nations People” only 80,000 live in communities where one of the many Aborigial languages is spoken.

      I do not see many of these people protesting Australia Day.

      Australia is being returned to a “nation” of tribes with nothing to united us.

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        Steve of Cornubia

        I agree, but Woolworths made a point of pulling support for Australia Day and went so far as to announce it, because they wanted to make a partisan political statement. Coles have indeed scaled back, but so far have made no explicit decision or statement (AFAIK). My personal boycott is therefore aimed at ensuring Woolworth pay a price for getting political, when there was no need.

        I also plan to avoid Qantas whenever I can.

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      John Connor II

      As per ACA, we should call them Wokeworths, and boycott them on Australia day.

      Oh look, another price hike on something I used to buy.
      That’s a 50% hike in one year.
      Why? There’s nothing causing such major price rises.
      Can’t use Covid as a scapegoat.

      I wonder if Wokeworth’s owners, Blackrock, are forcing them to hike prices to destroy manufacturers?
      Shut down capitalism to save the planet (for themselves)?
      People now only seem to buy “luxuries” when things are on special. ie last year’s prices.
      Manufacturers must really be hurting and struggling, but no doubt there’ll be packets of bugs and carcinogenic fake meat to replace it all when they go bust.

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        John Connor II

        In a survey the other day, 66% of Aussies are concerned about Wokeworth’s seemingly inexplicable price rises more than the 20% concerned with Wokeworth’s anti- Australia stance.
        Time to disclose profit margins and legislate caps on price rises?
        It’s not the producer or freight costs, it’s sheer greed by W and C.

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      Strop

      In essence, he was ‘doing a deplorables’ by characterising the people who support Australia Day as rude and violent.

      Based on what you’ve written, he was not characterising people who support Australia Day as rude and violent. He was characterising people who abuse Woolies staff as rude. And he is right.

      I don’t agree with Woolies position. But I think anyone who abuses Woolies staff, because of the decision, is a complete DH.
      No, I’m not saying people who support Aus Day are DH’s.

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    Reader

    Farmer ‘was offered cash and a night out at a lap dancing club if he agreed to having a giant wind turbine on his land’
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12930883/Farmer-offered-cash-night-lap-dancing-club-agreed-having-giant-wind-turbine-land.html

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    another ian

    Willis E looks at

    “Surfing the Sixth Wave”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/01/23/surfing-the-sixth-wave/

    What Sixth Wave?

    And in comments

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/01/23/surfing-the-sixth-wave/#comment-3853544

    “The single paper cited with quantifications (across 6 ‘carefully selected’ ecosystems Including Australia’s Atherton Tablelands and South Africa’s feynbos) was deeply methodologically flawed in three different ways. Wrote it all up in illustrated essay ‘No Bodies’ in ebook Blowing Smoke.”

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Harvard Teaching Hospital To Retract Papers As Falsified Data Scandal Unfolds”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/harvard-teaching-hospital-retract-papers-falsified-data-scandal-unfolds

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “COVID Didn’t Suddenly Become ‘Deadly’ In April 2020”

    “The spike in all-cause deaths that began after the lockdowns has to be explained by dozens of reasons instead of this virus. It was the response to the virus, not the virus, that better explains most of these purported “Covid deaths.”

    These reasons would/might include ventilators, remdesivir, not giving pneumonia patients antibiotics, dehydration, over prescription of powerful sedatives, isolation, panic, depression, etc.

    If we’re counting all excess deaths, the mRNA “vaccines” probably caused millions of deaths. Spikes in suicides, homicides, domestic assaults, drug overdoses, accidents, and deaths from delayed diagnoses from treatable diseases are other causes that no doubt explain the massive surge in extra deaths in the last three years.

    Basically, if my hypothesis is correct that the Covid mortality rate should have remained constant, this would mean that, even today, millions of deaths attributed to Covid probably aren’t occurring from Covid or Covid alone.

    Even I admit this would constitute a scandal almost too mind-boggling to consider…

    …but I’m considering it because that’s what my “early spread” hypothesis strongly suggests.

    If this virus wasn’t deadly in December 2019 or January 2020, it shouldn’t have suddenly become “deadly” a year later…nor today.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/covid-didnt-suddenly-become-deadly-april-2020

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      Kim

      We’re getting up at the limits of single layer silicon. The current move is to multilayer chips. The big problem is how many good chips there are in a wafer as that percentage is crucial. If 15% of each wafer is a dud then when multlayering chips that can potentially go up to 30% for 2 layers, 45% for 3 layers etc.

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        Graeme#4

        Many modern integrated circuits now use up to 15 layers, with extra copper layers in between. The silicon wafers are now up to 300mm diameter, with 450mm diam soon and 650mm proposed. MOSFETs, used in computers, are now both horizontally and vertically layered to minimise chip space and speed up operations.

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          John Connor II

          Actually modern pcb’s can have up to 100, not 15.
          Altium Designer allows up to 32.
          No info on failure rates though…

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            Graeme#4

            I was actually talking about the integrated circuits themselves. I’m presuming that the intermediate copper layers are to remove internal heat.

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          Kim

          It’s multiple layers of circuits on a stacked chip that I’m referring to. For example: Stacking a RAM or ROM vertically means greater memory density. EG: 4 X 256MB stacked to form 1GB.

          If a main chip consists of: CPU, GPU, Flash ROM, RAM & I\O in a stacked arrangement that greatly increases the density and reduces the pinout. That is where the industry is heading. But there are practical considerations.

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      Graeme#4

      1 Mbyte disks, one metre diameter, rotating vertically, were used in the 1970s. Used air to bring in heads simultaneously on both sides. At one time, the air to one side was cut off, so when heads were brought in at high speed, only one side came in. Instant disk crash.

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      CO2 Lover

      When I started university slide rules were still in use and I used to carry a shoe box of punch cards to the computer centre to run a the Main Frame Computer.

      If one punch card had a mistake then this had to be retyped and a repeat trip was required to the computer centre. Not much fun in that.

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        another ian

        “They also serve who only stand and wait”

        was very applicable to student computer ready rooms IMO.

        Other IMO’s from way back then –

        I learned to type (such as I can) on a card punch. The keyboards were flat rather than raised and did a lot for wrists.

        It was prudent to have a duplicate card deck in case of “things that happen”, for which there was a deck duplicator. It was also prudent to wait till someone else had shown that it worked before you used it.

        Turn around was much faster the evening after undergraduate computing assignments were due.

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        JoKaH

        I can remember one of my lecturers had a sly drool

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        Graeme#4

        What? You never learned to card edit using a scalpel and tape? I don’t know – some instructors never teach the important things…

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          another ian

          About that time there was billing by punch card – and someone realised that some of the systems required you to pay the exact amounts or the cheque would be cashed but not credited.

          So the test was –

          Over pay the first bill by one cent as a test with you in credit

          Instructions were to not “fold, spindle or mutilate” the card – so you did all three from there on

          Then under pay by one cent to correct your balance

          And iterate

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      RickWill

      There are many people who think that power generation can follow the same path in terms of power to size and cost. They do not aopreciate that power systems have been through their own technology development

      Watt’s first engine made for general application outside mining replaced 6 horses and weighed tonnes. So less than 4kW/tonne. Modern aircraft engines produce around 10,000kW per tonne. So not the same orders of magnitude in power but still spectacular.

      Both solar panels and wind turbines have power density limited by the energy sources they are extracting from. Winched kites may impove on power to weight but they are still limited by the power density of the wind.

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      Adellad

      It puts the scale and depth of “suffering” in Australia into perspective. What value is life in PRC?

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    John Connor II

    Pollies need to learn the 3 R’s.
    Relegate Renewables to the Rubbish.

    A new word for the JC2 lexicon:
    Kaputalism – the collapse of an economic system by relying on unreliable intermittent energy systems.

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    MP

    Slomo to join Trump admin. The birds of a feather are flocking togeather.

    Sky News https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esi7a-PhAfE

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      CO2 Lover

      ScumMo is getting his reward for signing Australia up to the $285 Billion AUKUS submarine deal with the USA and ditching Turnbull’s deal with the French.

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      RickWill

      This is interesting because Trump’s military advisers have indicated they are cold on AUKUS. The appointment suggests otherwise. But has a political flavour.

      The Sky report more than hints at a frosty relationship between the current Labor government and Trump. Maybe the negative comments on AUKUS are to shake Albanese.

      China buys Australia’s iron ore, coal and bauxite and Australia uses the proceeds to secure US military technology. Those contract are worth more than the purchase of solar panels and wind turbines from China.

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    Peter Ridd on nuclear waste, pointing out that all soil is riddled with radiation, any cubic km of earth contains enough fissionable material to make 1000 Hiroshima bombs. Our bodies contain X29 more radiation than we would get, living next to a nuclear plant. 10 minutes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7aOybLlOHk&t=61s
    But again it’s all just a tasty distraction, another arrow in the quiver for the destruction of the west.

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      CO2 Lover

      Fun Fact

      How much radioactive carbon-14 is in a living person?
      The average human body has about 15 kg of Carbon give or take, meaning about 1.5 micrograms of Carbon-14. That’s 107 nanomoles of carbon, or about 6.444×10^16 atoms (1/3000th a grain of sand).

      Furthermore seawater contains 3 ppb of Uranium – so every time you go to the beach you take a Uranium bath!

      Uranium can be extracted from sea water and the cost of doing so keeps coming down.

      This provides Plan B when (and if) the world runs out of fossil fuels – should make us through until our Sun runs out of fuel.

      Scientists predict the Sun is a little less than halfway through its lifetime and will last another 5 billion years or so before it becomes a white dwarf.

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      CO2 Lover

      Our bodies contain X29 more radiation than we would get, living next to a nuclear plant

      Around 1.82 million people are living in Fukushima Prefecture. Following the accident, most towns and villages in close proximity to the power station were placed under evacuation orders.

      Japan is a small country with a population of 123 million. The Fukushima accident was the result of faulty civil engineering and not faulty nuclear engineering.

      Australia is a continent with a small population so there are many sites that nuclear power stations could be sited well away from population centres.

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        MP

        And their is plenty of coal.

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        ozfred

        nuclear power stations could be sited well away from population centres.

        But new electricity transmission lines would have to be built to have “usable” power to where people actually live and work.
        But wait….. don’t we have that issue with the location of the current “desirable” generation sources?

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      A good video, but I have to take issue with Dr Ridd on his “toxic waste” comment on coal power station ash. It is NOT toxic – there is a good CSIRO report explaining this. I believe that the ash is often put to good use in road building.

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    John Connor II

    We need $1.6 QUADRILLION dollars for climate change!

    The Disgraced Climate Czar and Epstein’s Island Acquaintance, John Kerry, said he needs $1.6 Quadrillion Dollars for ‘Climate Change’.

    https://twitter.com/liz_churchill10/status/1749851519875268670

    You want it, you pay for it, you use it. Leave the rest of alone with what we have.

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      CO2 Lover

      It makes the $10 TRILLION Australia needs for battery back-up for a wind and solar power grid look like small change!

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        Graeme#4

        And I believe that the calculated amount of battery storage is too little – think folks are only talking about 24 hours. Surely it would have to be at least 60 hours.

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      another ian

      A time framing (no source) –

      “How much is a BILLION?

      A billion seconds ago, it was 1959.

      A billion minutes ago, Jesus was alive.

      A billion hours ago, our ancestors were living in the Stone Age

      A billion days ago, no-one walked on the earth on two feet.

      A billion dollars ago, was only 8 hours and 20 minutes, at the current rate of government spending”

      (USA but “Elbow” is up for the challenge)

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        Struth, I’m more than a billion seconds old. That means, roughly my heart has been pumping that many times. Pretty good value and without interference from the Covid lords.

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    RickWill

    I want to own Extreme Weather Events™.

    To that end I have devised a few clear definitions for EWEs™.
    1. If your Tesla will not take charge because it is too cold.
    2. If the roadway has more snow than you Tesla can safely negotiate without risking the battery and there is no snow plough to follow while it clears the road.
    3. If there is more water coursing across the road than your Tesla can negotiate without risking a battery explosion.
    4. If the weather is so hot that the cabin cooling reduces range by more than 10%
    5. If thee weather is so cold that the range is reduced by more than 30%.
    6. If your Tesla catches fire.
    7. Any lightning bolt that produces enough magnetic interference to cause your Tesla to malfunction or even fry it.
    8. If there is not enough sunshine and/or wind energy to supply “renewable” electrons to charge your Tesla.
    9. If you parking spot gets inundated with water such that it risks your Tesla battery.

    I will be happy to take suggestions to add to the list but the list remains my exclusive property and can only be used with my prior written approval.

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      CO2 Lover

      10. If ocean swells are so large that the violent movement causes a themal runaway in one cell of several thousand battery packs in cars on a Roll-on/roll-off (RORO or ro-ro) ship cause a fire that destroys all the cars and ship as well (eg the Freemantle Highway)

      There were 209 ship fires reported during 2022, the highest number in a decade and 17% more than in 2021, according to a report from insurer Allianz Global Corporate & Specialty (AGCS) Of that total, 13 occurred on car carriers, but how many involved EVs was not available.

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      Perhaps add “or you” at the end of #7 …

      Auto

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    John B

    I haven’t had a Carlsberg for many years and I don’t think I will ever again.
    Beer water

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      CO2 Lover

      I am drinking a Carlsberg now.

      As long as they do not go woke like Bud Light I am happy to drink it.

      Incorporating CO2 in the grow room setup helps with multiple processes. It plays a critical role in the healthy growth of marijuana plants.

      If more CO2 and a warmer environment helps grow Mary Jane its should also help grown more barley and hops – trust the science.

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    Reader

    Climate Science Gatekeeping
    New Evidence Shows Michael Mann Seeking to Manipulate Peer Review

    https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/climate-science-gatekeeping

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    John Connor II

    Food from urban agriculture has carbon footprint six times larger than conventional produce

    A new University of Michigan-led international study finds that fruits and vegetables grown in urban farms and gardens have a carbon footprint that is, on average, six times greater than conventionally grown produce.

    However, a few city-grown crops equaled or outperformed conventional agriculture under certain conditions. Tomatoes grown in the soil of open-air urban plots had a lower carbon intensity than tomatoes grown in conventional greenhouses, while the emissions difference between conventional and urban agriculture vanished for air-freighted crops like asparagus.

    The study, published in the journal Nature Cities, aimed to fill some of the knowledge gaps by comparing the carbon footprints of food produced at low-tech urban agriculture sites to conventional crops. It used data from 73 urban farms and gardens in five countries and is the largest published study to compare the carbon footprints of urban and conventional agriculture.

    Three types of urban agriculture sites were analyzed: urban farms (professionally managed and focused on food production), individual gardens (small plots managed by single gardeners) and collective gardens (communal spaces managed by groups of gardeners).

    https://phys.org/news/2024-01-food-urban-agriculture-carbon-footprint.html

    Oh dear…you appear to have exceeded your Carbon allowance.
    Our climate enforcement gorillas will now pull up your garden and break your kneecaps for your crime.

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    CO2 Lover

    As per may post above

    Incorporating CO2 in the grow room setup helps with multiple processes. It plays a critical role in the healthy growth of marijuana plants.

    Was the extra CO2 footprint due to using bottled CO2 in urban grow rooms for Mary Jane?

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    FWIW

    “‘Um… Why Is Our Plane’s Wing Missing All Those Screws?'”

    https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2024/01/22/um-why-is-our-planes-wing-missing-all-those-screws-n606666

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      another ian

      Personal experience – 1980’s and Qantas

      I was on a flight from San Francisco to Brisbane and we were at Honolulu in the early hours. The duty free there wasn’t really as they knew they had you by the proverbials and spirits was cheaper in the shadow of the university that I had come from. I’d lapped the available area a few times and was standing by a window overlooking the 747 when I saw a figure in a dark uniform walking around the plane and realised it was doing a walk around inspection. The torch light came to the inner engine and went around, then to the outer where it went around and then up and down several times. As we boarded a bloke in overalls arrived with a ladder.

      After take off the DJ in the nose apologised for a late take off as they had to check what might have been a problem.

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    John Connor II

    Biden approves dedicating 22 MILLION acres of federal lands to solar farms.
    That’s just under 90,000 square km.
    That’s the area of Tasmania + 20%, or 40% the area of Victoria.
    How much land is available as a dumping ground in 5 years time?

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    John Connor II

    Britons ‘face call-up if we go to war with Russia’

    The chief of the British Army is set to warn Brits that they could be called up to fight for King and country in the event of war with Russia – because the military is ‘too small’ to handle the conflict on its own.

    General Sir Patrick Sanders, Chief of the General Staff, will stress the need for ministers to ‘mobilise the nation’ in the event of a wider conflict against Russia amid its invasion of Ukraine.

    His warning comes nearly two years after he said that Britain was facing its ‘1937 moment’, a reference to the two years leading up to the Second World War.

    Gen Sir Patrick – who has been openly critical of staff shortages in the military – believes there should be a ‘shift’ in the mindset of the public who should be willing to defend the UK against foreign adversaries.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12998863/britons-face-army-conscription-russia-attacks.html

    Crying booths and safe spaces will be in high demand!
    All the delusional nonsense will be out the window.
    No phones, no FB or Tiktok, no men in dresses, no cat people. This is war! Just the dose of reality they need.

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Looks like we’ve got a new demon in the drug war…”

    “I’d never heard of nitazenes,”

    https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2024/01/looks-like-weve-got-new-demon-in-drug.html

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    another ian

    Google discovers “vaccine injury”!

    “Here is a fascinating development. Starting some time yesterday, Google apparently lifted the information embargo on vaccine injury news. Enter “covid vaccine death” and see what comes up in first place: Dr. Peter McCullough’s published vaccine injury paper.”

    https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/truckin-wednesday-january-24-2024?r=1vxw0k&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

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