Carnarvon “world’s hottest place yesterday” is barely any hotter than it was in 1896

Hottest day Carnarvon headline— (AAP) NZ Herald

By Jo Nova

In Carnarvon yesterday the Bureau tells us that the temperature was “a record” 49.9 degree day (almost 122 Fahrenheit). But in 1896 the Brickhouse Station just 15 kilometers north of Carnarvon hit 121 Fahrenheit in the shade, and there were reports of birds dying and other measurements “in the shade” that were as high as 125F. Somehow man-made emissions have been heating the planet for 128 years but the current freakishly hot days are about the same as the ones when no one in Australia owned a car and CO2 levels in the atmosphere were still under 300 ppm.

Lest we forget, there are hundreds of thermometer records from the pre-1908 era that are apparently worth nothing to the Australian Bureau of Meteorology. Climate change threatens all life on Earth, so you’d think climate scientists would be excited about the longest historical records they can find, but for some inexplicable reason they show little interest in the historical records from 1896 when a heatwave struck and 437 people died across Australia.

Temperatures hit 50C in the shade in many places in January 1896.  In locations hundreds of kilometers apart, people were reporting similar temperatures. Perhaps they were all wrong?

 

Carnarvon, hottest day ever in 1896.

January 5th 1896, Western Australia https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/3076152

At Yalgoo over Christmas 1895 temperatures reached 122 to 127F:

hottest day ever in 1896.

January 5th 1896, Western Australia https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/3076152

At Southern Cross a man died in his office chair. The heat averaged 115 and reached 122F.

hottest day ever in 1896.

January 5th 1896, Western Australia https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/3076152

A child succumbed to the heat in Geraldton and in Mullewa it was so hot the railway workers refused to work because it was “impossible to handle the rails”. These towns are 500 km south or 300 miles away from Carnarvon.

 

hottest day ever in 1896.

January 5th 1896, Western Australia https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/3076152

Temperatures in Mullawa hit 121F.

Inland at Cue for three weeks the temperature was above 105 F, even reaching 118 twice in the shade.

1,000 kilometers south of Carnarvon, nested among forest, south of Perth, even Pinjarra experienced  114F on Friday 3rd January 1896. This heatwave affected a vast area.

Map, Carnarvon, Geraldton, SW WA.

The Bureau will say many of these older records were done in “non-standard” equipment, but thermometers were a 300 year old technology even then. Sometimes we have records of the types of screens they used and we even have standardized comparisons of the small differences between the different screens. But the BoM is too precious to admit these old records are useful — the same BOM that doesn’t care when modern sites are surrounded by hot black bitumen or sits near incinerators. The same BOM that shrank the Stevenson screens from 230 litres to just 60 litres and changed the glass thermometers to electronic ones. The best measurements in our history probably came after the BOM was formed in 1908 and standardized the screens. Yet the BOM has adjusted the Carnarvon trends in those years down by as much as 2 whole degrees. In what universe does this make sense?

The actual warming over the whole century was almost nothing until the BOM adjusted the records. Thanks to Ken Stewart for this analysis:

The ABC parrots the mindless weather trivia produced by the BOM — they both lie by omission

Both institutions hide what Australians really need to know — our history:

“It was the nation’s second-hottest February temperature on record and tied as the eighth-hottest temperature recorded in Australia.”

ABC Feb 19th, 2024

Yesterday wasn’t the “eighth hottest” in Australian records. There are scores of days of baking hot 122 to 125F temperatures in our historical newspapers, often from the 1800s, yet the ABC never investigates, and never asks the Bureau of Meteorology a single hard question. Were all those thermometers in the wrong places? Were all those temperatures invalid? Astronomers were trained to use thermometers, it was a 300 year old technology even during the heatwaves of the Federation drought, and people knew the difference between “in the shade” and “in the sun”.

Australian heatwaves, mapped, 50C temperatures, 1800, 1896. Historic heatwaves.

Thanks so much to research by Chris Gillham, Ken Stewart and Silligy and the rest of the BOM volunteer audit team — without any funding they discover the hot records the bureau can’t seem to find even with $350 million dollars a year and a staff of 1,600 people.

Citizen science beats government funded science any day.

All the historic newspaper links for the map are available at the original post on historic heatwaves.

 

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70 comments to Carnarvon “world’s hottest place yesterday” is barely any hotter than it was in 1896

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    CO2 Lover

    Has the BOM any credibilty left?

    Stacked full of YES men and women who do the bidding of those who pay their excessive salaries

    “To seek the truth always follow the money trail”

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      Adellad

      Alas we here are a tiny minority and shrinking at that as time advances. Mainstream media, education, arts & entertainment, company boards and all the rest of our major institutions are captured by the hard Left. So no, objectively the BoM has zero credibility. But “objectivity” itself is no longer regarded as a serious scientific concept – consensus and subjective truth have replaced it. I see no clear path out of this – we need a storming of the Bastille and the events that followed, but where is our modern Robespierre?

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    CO2 Lover

    I live in the People’s Republic of Victoriastan near a popular beach and have only been for one swim this “summer” so far – hoping for a warmer March to make another visit to the waters.

    But I have a lawn to mow with all the water that has been around – I use an electic mower but not a battery one – I risk my life if I run over the power cord.

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      TdeF

      Electric mowers are great. No need to store petrol. Plus we had one shared among the terrace. Storage not a problem either or cost. But would be useless on big lawns.

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        Dennis

        I have one for difficult to reach areas that my ride on mower misses, but it is useless if the grass is too long and then I have to start my petrol engine push mower.

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          Annie

          A Cub Cadet 2-wheeled slasher helps, also brush cutters do.
          I see mowers resurfaced in the discussion…

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          Saighdear

          Hummm, if IT is useless, what good do you ( THEY ) think EV cars will be ! Obviously then those EV proponents have never had to cut a lawn. simple as that!

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      Saighdear

      Ah, the secret is in the Method or procedure of cutting, as we do with our umbilicals in slurry spreading from a fixed Tanker, working across a steep field, etc. Other secret is NOT to run, just walk with BIG steps !

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    TdeF

    As for Carnavron, people live there happily. How is that possible with 250 years of rapid life ending Global warming? No penguins though.

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      TdeF

      And most people on the planet live in places with cold to frigid winters. Those in the Tropics find their heat is regulated by the massive humidity. So I do not know who is supposed to die in the terrible heat of Climate Change? And the number of storms have dropped, as predicted by classic meteorology. And even Dr. Judith Curry agrees. Her Climate Change fame came from her mistaken conclusion that the number of storms was increasing. It made her the darling of the Armageddon argument until she changed her mind and became a Climate traitor.

      So what is the problem with Global Warming again? And rapid sea level rise? After at least 38 years of this, where is sea level rise a problem? Half of Bangladesh is less than 1 metre above sea level. Surely they would have noticed dramatic sea level in the last hundred years. And Djakarta was another place built in a swamp, like Mexico or Venice. It was supposed to be entirely underwater by now.

      I cannot understand who is saying man made CO2 driven Global Warming is a problem except those who profit from the scare? Or are using it for political purposes to cripple Western democratic societies. Where is Biden’s beach house again? He has spent half his Presidency on the beach. And why doesn’t he fly there by electric helicopter?

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        PeterPetrum

        Don’t forget Twiggy Forrest’s “lethal humidity”. According to Trwiggy for every degree warmer we get humidity climbs 7% (according to experts!). Maybe he has not heard that humidity can never get above 100%.

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    Neville

    And the early Holocene was hotter than today and sea levels were still 1.5 metres higher 4,000 years ago around Australia than our SLs in 2024.
    And Eemian temps were much hotter than our Holocene optimum and even Wiki tells us that today in 2024 sea levels are 6 to 9 metres lower than Eemian SLs.
    The competent Co2 Coalition Scientists also remind us of the much hotter Eemian I.G.
    Of course Hippos also swam in the Thames and the Rhine during the previous and much warmer Eemian interglacial.
    When will our donkeys start to THINK and WAKE UP?

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    Neville

    AGAIN the 2016 Dutch study has found that the World’s coastal land area has increased over the last 30 years.
    And the Kench studies have also found that 87% of Coral islands have remained stable or increased in size over the last 40 years.
    Here’s the 2016 Dutch link.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate3111

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      Graham Richards

      Shhhhh! You’re not supposed to let the general public in on the secret. That’s misinformation you know.

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        Honk R Smith

        Actually that’s Malinformation … truth that harms or insults the consensus narrative, Taylor Swift, Bono, or the WEF.
        Ex. “It’s not Safe OR Effective”.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malinformation

        Misinformation is unfactual opinion expressed by peasants.
        Ex. “Damn, what’s with this economy, I can’t afford to buy food. I’m voting for Trump this time.”
        (Fortunately we have DHS and their partners at WikiPropaG, Googly, MegaFakebook and YouslessTube to obscure what the peasants see with their own eyes.)

        Disinformation is purposely false information disseminated by government, NGOs, and global corps for the higher purpose of controlling the peasants
        Ex. “It is Safe and Effective, and besides when you buy food it produces methane, so we’re shutting down farms for your own safety.”

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      Neville

      Here NASA also comments on the Dutch satellite study that shows the increase of 115,000 sq klms of water and 173,000 sq KLMs of extra land over the last 30 years.

      https://landsat.gsfc.nasa.gov/article/tracking-surface-water-changes-over-the-past-30-years/

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        TdeF

        Very interesting that land area is increasing, the opposite of what we are told with drowning from sea level rise. And water is increasing nearly as much as countries create more dams, something Greens detest for reasons which make no sense at all.

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          Graeme No.3

          No, No TdeF you must think correctly. The rising area of land means that water is getting short – any climate “scientist” will tell you that.
          And the more water in dams just means that sharks will drown faster. Oh! the humanity (when some will think this crap is true if sprouted by Greta what’s her name?

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    KP

    “Citizen science beats government funded science any day.”

    Ain’t that the truth!

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    Bronco

    Interesting. Bourke New South Wales 52.8 c 17/1/1877
    Cloncurry Queensland 53.1 c 16/1/1889
    Oodnadatta South Australia 50.7 c 2/1/1960

    Just saying

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    Simon

    All of Jo’s examples predate the implementation of standardised Stevenson screen style weather stations. It’s not difficult to beat the official temperature maximum by placing a thermometer in an appropriately chosen micro-site.

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      Today it’s standard to place them near airports, is that better ?

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      el+gordo

      It appears that Glaisher stands are a degree warmer than the Stevenson Screen.

      https://theconversation.com/factcheck-was-the-1896-heatwave-wiped-from-the-record-33742

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        And the BOM have known that for decades, yet they don’t adjust and include those historic temperatures. If it had been cooler in 1896, thus showing “more global warming” since then, do you think they might have found a way to splice those old temperatures in?

        PD: Dear Simon, are you suggesting astronomers of 1896 wanted to exaggerate the record so everyone would install solar panels and fund “climate science grants”? Oh wait…

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        Ian George

        So does anyone know whether the BoM has run comparisons between the SS and the ethermometers used since 1995? New ethermometers have a one-second response time which LIG thermometers would be unable to detect.
        This is interesting.
        ‘So, for much of Australia, temperatures recorded before Hunt’s insistence on standardising weather stations in about 1908 would be biased towards warmer temperatures, relative to modern observations. The poor maintenance noted by Hunt in 1907 would also lead to biased temperature recordings compared with a modern, well-maintained site’.
        Why then has the BoM adjusted the temps in recent times if we have a ‘modern, well-maintained site’? eg 2001 and 2011 had annual means below average but now have been adjusted upwards so they are average and above.

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        Graeme No.3

        There is one problem with the Conversation report claiming that “In 1887, Todd set up what must be one of the longest-running scientific experiments ever, when he installed thermometers in a Stevenson Screen and on a Glaisher Stand at Adelaide Observatory”.
        Those thermometers had been installed years before. The Stevenson screens were installed years before in Sydney and Melbourne so why not in Adelaide where Charles Todd was known as “a stickler for accuracy”? And Wragge had worked for Todd (before an argument – Wragge was known as “difficult”) so would have seen them in use in Adelaide.

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      TdeF

      Really? Did you check? The Stevenson screen was invented in 1864. And used extensively because it was a simple construction and reasonably obvious even to the layman. “The Stevenson screen was first introduced to Australia in the 1880s and was installed everywhere, with a few exceptions, by 1910.”

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        Graeme No.3

        TdeF:
        http://warwickhughes.com/papers/ozstev.htm
        Extract “did find some proceedings of late 19C Intercolonial Conferences held in 1879, 1881 and 1888. It was clear that the scientists running the meteorological observatories for the various Colonies (that now make up Australia), were all aware of the Stevenson Screen and there was much evidence of its use, or the use of a similar local variant. I wrote a draft report – “The Introduction of the Stevenson Screen, and phasing out of Open Thermometer Stands, in Australian Meteorology”
        In any case the BOM has changed the stand several times (size, metal legs, digital thermometer and placement) yet treats them as equivalent. I must say I have seen any grafting of tree rings onto their data.

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        Graeme No.3

        TdeF;
        1995 paper by Warwick S. Hughes, Comment on D.E. Parker, “Effects of Changing Exposure of Thermometers at Land Stations.” International Journal of Climatology, Vol. 15, pp. 231-234.
        Extract “This lead me in 1991 to researching in the BoM library to see what documentary evidence there was for this and I was unable to confirm the BoM version of history. I did find some proceedings of late 19C Intercolonial Conferences held in 1879, 1881 and 1888. It was clear that the scientists running the meteorological observatories for the various Colonies (that now make up Australia), were all aware of the Stevenson Screen and there was much evidence of its use, or the use of a similar local variant. I wrote a draft report – “The Introduction of the Stevenson Screen, and phasing out of Open Thermometer Stands, in Australian Meteorology” – summarising evidence from the Intercolonial Conferences proceedings and circulated it to the BoM.”
        In any case the BOM has changed the design of the screens (metal legs, size, thermometer type etc) yet claims that the figures are suitable. I must admit I haven’t seen any grafting of tree rings onto the data.

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      Simon,

      If you could provide such evidence which of course you didn’t even, try thus your empty comment was dead on arrival.

      Here is a truth you still haven’t understood, ALL temperature recording stations are in a Micro-site setting, every one of them.

      You still haven’t learned the point of Anthony Watts surface stations project of 2008 onwards……..

      How do you manage to be clueless all the time…..

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      Ian Hill

      Hot is hot and fast is fast!

      In the same way that climate scientists/BOM etc throw out any observations pre-1910 which don’t fit the “exacting standards*” of today, running statisticians throw out any marathon records set in the past which don’t comply to the standard 42.195 km distance used today. Many great men of the past set new records for the “marathon” where the distance run was “approximately 42 km”. When their race pace (minutes/km) for the claimed “short distance” is examined a new mark was still clearly set. Oddly enough, with one exception (Adrienne Beames in 1971) the same does not apply to women, mainly because only a handful of them tried the marathon before 1970. In this case the same “statisticians” prefer to patronise them for their achievement of finishing, no matter what the real distance was.

      I think this analogy is valid for exposing the nonsense of cancelling past data for expecting it to have complied with an arbitrary future standard.

      * used loosely

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      el+gordo

      Simon I found this authoritative piece and the Glaisher was only 0.2 C warmer.

      http://www.john-daly.com/screens.htm

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    David of Cooyal in Oz

    Evening Jo,

    ” Yet the BOM has adjusted the Carnarvon trends in those years down by as much as 2 whole degrees. In what universe does this make sense? ”

    I suspect we have to blame the IPCC and our politicians as the main problem, as our BoM is operating under instruction from the IPCC, WMO and our laws.

    Specifically, the IPCC charter is deliberately worded to investigate human causes of climate change and to not investigate natural causes. So lots of money to support looking at their favourite, CO2, but none to look at the reliability of stuff from the colonies.

    Pity Hunt didn’t allow the audit sought when he was minister.

    Cheers
    Dave B

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      TdeF

      There are two crimes in science evidence.

      The first is to connect two data sets from different methods or instrumentation, such as tree rings and thermometers without complete proof of the junction validity for overlap. This was most notably in Michael Mann’s hockey stick. Allegedly he even discarded the 20th century tree ring data as it was completely different to the thermometer data and bolted them together. If the tree rings were wrong for the 20th century, they may have always been wrong. The presumption they are right because thermometers did not exist is not supportable.

      The second is to adjust the raw data to suit the theory, which is what the BOM is doing. That is against the most fundamental rule breaking of experimental science. You Never touch the raw data. You can embed corrections into your analysis but can never change a reading. Even what appears to be wrong data has to be explained. Many great scientific discoveries have come from exceptional as in unexpected readings, anomalies.

      Otherwise you are just building your explanation into the data. That is not objective science. It is religion. Or political science.

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        TdeF

        And another is to deliberately ignore data you do not like.

        Which is what the BOM is doing in ignoring the States 19th century data, handed over to the new BOM in 1909 after Federation. It is some of the best data in the world collected at enormous personal cost and diligence by postmasters, school masters and dedicated public servants and private over sixty years. It was the job of the BOM to do this. And with 1600 people and huge resources, a crime in science to refuse to digitize and include this cricial data from the 19th century before, during and after the the awful Federation drought. And before man made CO2 driven Global Warming was invented.

        It raises the real suspicion that the BOM at the top at least is a political organization, not a science one. Like all universities. As in a Few Good Men, they can’t handle the truth. But the truth would set us free, as a country. We have the world’s best records for the 19th century at a time when most countries had no records.

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    Neville

    AGAIN Hydrographic Surveyor Daniel Fitzhenry explains the SLs at Fort Denison Sydney since 1914.
    And he finds little change since 1914 and assures us that the tide gauges are much more accurate than satellite SL measurements.
    So where is our dangerous global warming and dangerous sea level rise?
    And co2 levels have increased by about 115 ppm since 1914. BTW that’s about another 0.0115% of the atmosphere. Shocking isn’t it?
    But is this certain NON EVENT worth the WASTE of further TRILLIONs of $ for decades into the future?
    I suppose we should ask China, India and the developing countries for their opinions? That’s if they could stop laughing at the OECD countries’ lunacy?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mjOmsqIibk

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      Adellad

      I have worked in Georgetown Guyana. The foreshore area (the ritziest part of town, but not that ritzy) is below sea level and protected by ditches, dikes and canals built by the Dutch when they ran the place a couple of centuries ago. Guess what? No problems at all and that relatively ancient superstructure continues to protect the city despite occasional tropical storms and in silent defiance of rapid sea level increases caused by us driving SUV’s.

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    There is nothing alarmists won’t do,
    To make man-made warming seem true,
    As their records require,
    That current temps. must read higher,
    Than the past, which they need to undo.

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    R.B.

    Sky News has a scare story on it. I added a comment.

    Mildura recorded 123°F and 124°F, or two days in a row over 50°C in 1906. The temperatures were deemed irrelevant because taken in the shade but not in a Stevenson Screen. There are many more such temperatures that are ignored, as if people cooled down by getting into a box with louvres.

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    The AGW Lament:
    When in danger,
    When in doubt,
    Run in circles,
    Scream and shout!

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    Dave in the States

    This kind of reporting a weather event is really gas lighting. It’s purpose is not to inform, but to persuade. It’s a good thing we have people like Jo and few others capable of calling them out.

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      Ross

      Agreed. Just lately the BOM Australia had egg on their faces regarding their prediction of an El Nino summer (ie now). It didn’t eventuate but in the meantime businesses like farmers decided to offload livestock thinking there would be shortages of available feed. Now the BOM made these predictions but it was the media (MSM/Social media) who put mayonnaise on these prediction with silly commentary. For a number of weeks it was incessant on local radio, TV news etc. I was amazed when family, friends and acquaintances would comment that this summer was going to be a stinker etc. This was in Winter. It was bizarre, but may just reveal how easily the populace and business managers can get brainwashed.

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        Ronin

        I saw something either ch 7 or 9 put up showing a hairdryer blowing hot air on all the East Coast, that’s how some of the BS gets legs, but the BOM were wrong but just can’t admit it.

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        To add ,I saw a professor from the BoM professing that yes we have an El Nino and they had warned it could be a dry and extremely hot summer.It was the MSM over exaggerating their predictions that is the issue.I don’t recall any fact checking or rebuttals from the esteemed Prof at the time.Now it’s …well you can get wet cool conditions from El Nino events.The ever moving goal posts.

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    Neville

    Here’s another interesting update from the co2 Coalition group of Scientists about Glacier shortening since 1800.
    In fact it has been warming for at least 300 + years, way before the real increase of co2 after 1950. Levels were about 312 ppm in 1950.
    And Dr Hansen and McKibben tell us we’ll solve their co2 problem if we are able to reduce co2 levels to 350 ppm. Or about 1988 co2 levels.
    Gosh shouldn’t we tell the NON OECD countries to stop building coal plants and just rely on UNRELIABLE, TOXIC W & S for their future energy supplies?
    They also have a graph that shows a huge drop in FAMINES since 1950 and yet global population has increased by ANOTHER 5.5 billion people over the last 74 years.
    And global life expectancy has also increased from about 46 years then and about 72 years today.
    So co2 is a terrible, dangerous TRACE gas and we should note the post 1950 RECORD Human flourishing to try and prove their point? SARC.

    https://myemail.constantcontact.com/Help-me–I-m-melting–.html?soid=1101509381788&aid=RfQOZJ7BZrw

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      Graeme No.3

      In 1710** the French Tax Officials reported on the condition of villages at the foot of Mt.Blanc glacier and reported the inhabitants were so poor that no tax was got.
      The Bishop who owned the land organised a Fair in 1715 as a boost to the inhabitants livelihood. Apparently there was now sufficient food to feed the Tradiers there.

      ** After the severe winter of 1709/10. The actual collectors paid the Government for the right to collect, and wanted a profit. Their rapacity was notorious. It led to much public dislike of them. Lavoisier was sent to the Guillotine because he had merely invested in one such Company.

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      I think you’ve hit on the real “Problem” life expectancy,food production,quality of life and 5+ billion is seen by the likes of WEF,UN and the leftist elites as abhorrent.

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    I posted about 4 years ago a temp of 53C at Longreach. The evap cooling made little difference, even the locals complained, yet there was a bloke out there mixing concrete under those conditions. The heat is obviously more of a big deal for those that don’t live in the reality of our sunburnt country.

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      wal1957

      It all comes down to what your body is used to.
      I moved from Armidale NSW to Brisbane in march of 1975.
      I sweated through that 1st winter in Brisbane!

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    Rick

    In Dec 2001 I worked in an open cut copper mine called Nifty, about 200kms east of Marble Bar. It was a bit warm one day, so we measured the temperature – just for the hell of it. It was 62C.
    We all said things like, ‘Far out!’ and then got on with our jobs.
    It’s called “Summer.”

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      Dennis

      My builder son says people should get out of air conditioned offices, shopping malls, homes and vehicles more often.

      However he also said that young apprentices and younger qualified trades people are more often than not climate politics believers.

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    george

    One thing that won’t change. – Today is the HOTTEST day in history since YESTERDAY. <:o) Have a great day everyone.

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    Dennis

    September 2013 and the Abbott led Coalition defeated the Rudd back again Labor Government in a landslide defeat at the election. And at the 2010 election the Abbott led Coalition effectively defeated the Gillard Labor Government that lost all of the seats Rudd Labor had gained at the November 2007 election defeating the Howard Coalition Government, Prime Minister Gillard was forced into alliances with outsider MPs to form a minority Labor Government.

    During 2014 Doctor Jennifer Marohasy wrote to the Minister for BoM and explained the inaccurate media releases and other areas of concern. Prime Minister Abbott apparently asked his Cabinet to consider an independent audit at the BoM but the motion was narrowly defeated. The Minister for BoM requested BoM management to explain the questions raised by Doctor Marohasy and the reply admitted only to “errors and omissions” and advised the Minister that they would be dealt with and not repeated in future.

    It is another example in my opinion of the behind the scenes blackmail taking place from UN IPCC and other UN octopus arms organisations of manipulators using climate warming hoax as their excuse for redistribution of the wealth of developed nations including (see 1975 Lima Agreement) transfer of manufacturing industry to developing nations like China.

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      Ross

      It also revealed that Greg Hunt (then minister responsible for the BOM) decided to side with the BOM, rather than do a full effective audit. Hunt certainly became a member of the WEF, and possibly was even back then. This is from his biography “…As Minister for the Environment, he established the Emissions Reduction Fund, the Green Army, the $1 billion Reef Trust and helped lead Australia’s negotiations for the Montreal Protocol update and Paris Climate Change Accord”. In other words the bloke was/is a full blown climate alarmist. Also, a dud Minister for Health during COVID, who had difficulty putting on a face mask.

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    Leo Morgan

    I confess I might have to rethink my scepticism. Beach weather gone deadly! Just look at these numbers from yesterday’s forecast in Hobart. (Some emphasis mine.)

    Extreme Heat

    Severity: Severe
    Significant threat to life or property
    Description
    Maximum temperatures in the mid twenties to low thirties, increasing to the high twenties in the northwest and mid thirties in the southeast on Thursday. Minimum temperatures in the mid to high teens.

    A cool change will move over Tasmania overnight Thursday with milder temperatures on Friday. Locations likely to be impacted include Adventure Bay, Brighton, Cygnet, Dover, Geeveston, Hobart, Huonville, Orford, Richmond and Sorell.
    Action Recommended
    Make preparations per the Description.
    Urgency
    Take action in the near future.
    Affected Area
    South East
    Issued By
    Australian Government Bureau of Meteorology

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    Zigmaster

    The crazy thing about the homogenisation that has taken place to eliminate the past heat waves is that the impact of the urban heat island effect means that the adjustments if required should’ve been the other way pushing up the past and lowering the more recent. The Bureau has never explained the logic and details of homogenisation in a way that has enabled any scrutiny , it’s been a sort of “ trust us” process.
    What we do know is that the temperature trend from the mid-late 30s to early 70s was so clearly falling that scientists were predicting an imminent ice age.
    For the CO2 hypothesis causes dangerous global warming to be true it should actually be reflected in historical records. Clearly in Australia ( and the rest of the world ) higher temperatures are not evident from periods of increasing CO2.
    But the conclusion that is made by the global bureaus is not that the hypothesis is wrong but that the historical data is wrong. Tony Abbott was talked out of doing an audit of the BOM by Greg Hunt ( a WEF graduate) who was the minister for environment at the time and if and when the Libs get into power I think that such an audit would be very useful. The removal of the ban on nuclear is just a compromise ;
    What is needed is major questioning of whether there is any credibility associated with the temperature trends now accepted as gospel. The global warming hypothesis has been so far off the mark that even with the problematic adjustments of the BOM the recent temperature records have underperformed the predictions of the climate cabal.
    Sceptics who don’t want to seem too extreme too readily concede that the temperatures have been warming somewhat though not as fast as alarmists predict. I believe that the corruption of temperature records is so significant that the rising temperatures that are now “ accepted” are at best problematic and at worst completely the opposite. I have absolutely no doubt that the hottest decades in the last 150 years were in the 1890s and 1930s.
    Until we can completely discredit the global warming hypothesis by showing the deliberate manipulation that has taken place all climate policies ( even nuclear) are a compromise.
    Additional to these facts is that the risks associated with rising temperatures have been almost eliminated by man’s ingenuity in particular air conditioning, building standards, warning systems, better communication etc. Data has shown that deaths from climate events have fallen by over 90% in the last 100 or so years.
    Even accounting for the fact that action on climate change is futile because two countries where half the world’s population resides are doing nothing it is clear that the global warming hypothesis has failed.
    And if you can’t retrofit the past you certainly can’t predict the future.

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      el+gordo

      Dutton has to go to the election with a BoM audit on his platform.

      Abbott tried and was rolled by the Turnbull cabal, but these days BoM is on the nose after the graziers got financially burnt and the long hot dry summer that didn’t eventuate.

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