By Jo Nova
Brave researchers have decided to save the world by pumping seawater onto ice sheets in the depths of winter. They are struggling through -30C windy conditions somewhere off the top end of Canada. Their plan is to thicken the ice so it will survive longer in summer, thus presumably raising the albedo of Earth.
For some reason the dedicated team at the BBC don’t mention what energy source drives the pump. I wonder where that cord goes?
Could the cord go to a diesel gen, sitting on arctic ice, snipped out of the photo?
If it was a solar panel, we know they would have told us.
Even the BBC calls the plan “insane” — though we sense they mean it in the same way a fourteen year old might describe a diamond encrusted skate park.
Their goal? To slow global warming.
But a small number of advocates claim their approaches could give the planet a helping hand while humanity cleans up its act.
The ultimate goal of the Arctic experiment is to thicken enough sea-ice to slow or even reverse the melting already seen, says Dr Shaun Fitzgerald, whose team at the University of Cambridge’s Centre for Climate Repair is behind the project.
Researchers are apparently excited that they’ve “already seen the ice thicken by a few tens of centimeters across their small study area.” That much eh?
Since arctic sea ice stretches across some 10 to 15 million square kilometers, this could be quite a task.
The experts at the BBC didn’t think readers need to know these details, but they do briefly hint that they might need “10 million wind-powered pumps to thicken sea-ice across just a tenth of the Arctic.”
Apparently the words “diesel, petrol, fossil fuel” can’t be mentioned in a story about solutions of climate change.
Naturally, they have a struggle session about whether this is even a wise experiment given that salty ice might melt faster than normal ice. The worst possible thing of course, is that polluters might get the crazy idea they could burn fuel without tantric guilt.
The readiness of worshippers of Gaia, Mother Nature, to usurp her role and “improve on the wisdom” of her millenia-long tried and true processes is instructive. They clearly believe that they know better. The arrogance is a common trait of the our new woke friends who seem to place their “intelligence” above their goddesses wisdom.
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I have no problem with usurping Nature’s role because everything which is decent, civilized and beneficial in life has come about by keeping nature at bay. Basically nature is trying to kill you. For me the problem is people who live in cities living a life full of comforts only possible by keeping nature at bay have suddenly decided that the natural way is better. There are many manifestations of this and one of the more insidious is misanthropy. The climate zealots genuinely believe that nature and the planet would be better off without humanity. Not enough attention is paid to the misanthropy underpinning AGW. Jo wrote about this some time ago:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-10-07/warming_to_misanthropy/39750
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Just yer basic “God Complex”
Hubris is usually followed by a FALL.
The problem is this:
How many millions od “innocent bystanders” are going to be slaughtered in the name of this hubris?.
I’ll take 500 Million for 50 cents; close to even odds, so to speak.
But, I am an optimist.
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They are trying to increase, or stabilize the albedo of the Arctic. They have not read, (or failed to grok), what Stephens 2022 said. The changes to the albedo of the polar areas, which includes not only the sea-ice albedo changes, but also the snow-on-land albedo changes, does not amount to anything significant. INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM ZERO at the 95% level. Tilting at windmills. Pointless, frivolous. A wast of time and money.
Stephens, Graeme L., 𝑒𝑡 𝑎𝑙. 2022. “The changing nature of Earth’s reflected sunlight.” The Royal Society Publishing
Doi 10.1098/rspa.2022.0053
royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspa.2022.0053
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From what you are reading the albedo from clouds is far more important so I guess these scientific midgets will next want to make clouds more extensive. That will take a bigger pump and a longer lead.
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Is DR Fitzgerald a scientist or just plain dopey (rhetorical). I’ll posit, being an academic, Fitzy is a tenured twit. Whatever happened to Cambridge? Except it being a swamp of communist turncoats.
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Further, I note that he was an expert panelist on WHO Covid-19 response. Tricky bugger.
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But they do get a taxpayer-funded adventure holiday….
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The centre for climate repair. You couldn’t make it up. Is that with sticky plaster or with cloud crack filler?
It seems to me that the ‘scientists’ should look around them a bit more, especially up north on the ice. And see how big the place is compared to their ice garden patch. And decide to go home. What a joke.
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The Center for Climate Repair is what you get when a bunch of theoretical science dorks get bored with the computer lab (because they only work with computer models, not actual observations) and try their hands at applied science out in the wild, without bothering to consult any of those pesky engineers who might ask practical questions.
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Nothing like a chairbound academic going out and getting his hands dirty – or frozen. A good look with all the Arctic clobber on with hoarfrost clinging to his hairy bits (facial, that is).
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The Arctic is warming at an alarming rate. We must stop it at any price, or else we run a risk that it might become habitable. Imagine a future Canada where people live farther than 100 km from the US border!
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No, no, you got that wrong. It would destroy the life style of the venerable and wise Inuit people, who wish to continue to live a subsistence existence, hunting seals and catching fish.
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The Left prefer to keep native peoples living their traditional primitive lifestyles rather than having access to “white man” technology.
Sort of like a human zoo.
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Brave New World
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Where are they coming up with these wacky ideas, are they asking primary school kids, is there the slightest hint of science in them.
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They come up with these ideas in order to save the planet. Ignore the piles of cash they will make, money has nothing to do with it.
Hey look over there, a squirrel!
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This is not a new idea.
Like most ideas of those who harvest “research” grants or subsidies, they just keep getting recycled.
The idea of pumping Arctic water onto ice sheets to appease Gaia has been around since at least 1997.
The idea may be earlier than that.
What other ridiculous geonengineering idea will they recycle next?
Perhaps fertilising the oceans with iron powder to stimulate phytoplankton production to sequester “carbon”? See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_fertilization
And remember when global cooling was the thing and the proposal then to appease Gaia was to have aircraft dump soot all over the Arctic ice sheet in order to melt it?
None of this is science, it’s witchcraft and idolatry.
As I’ve said before, there should be no taxpayer-funded “research” grants to places which are also desireable holiday locations like tropical paradises or extreme adventure locations like Arctic/Antarctic.
And this is all a result of having too many snouts in the trough on a money feeding frenzy.
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Is that the same Flannery that said that the rains would never fill the dams again?
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Not this one.
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A “family trait” then?
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“… the number of published papers has grown from about a quarter million a year in 1960 to about 8 million now, a number still heading north. Because most of it is wrong, and because of the harms of bad science, we’re forced to conclude there is too much science. There are too many scientists, there is too much money and too many resources being spent on science.”
William M. Briggs.
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Some ideas are so daft that only academics take them serious.
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Dr Curry expects the AMO to change from the warm to the cool phase soon and then we can expect colder temps to help these delusional fools.
Who knows when this will occur but the data is available since 1900 and the next AMO cool phase would certainly stir up some further trouble for the silly leftie extremists and know nothings.
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Here’s the latest graph I could find for the AMO that finishes in 2022 and you’ll note that since 1900 we’ve seen 2 cool phases and 2 warm phases.
The last cool phase lasted from the early 1960s to the early 1990s or about 30 years.
And the latest warm phase has lasted for about 28 years up to 2022. This is from Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_multidecadal_oscillation#/media/File:Amo_timeseries_1856-present.svg
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I wonder if the NAO might be a trigger, look at the early 1960s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atlantic_oscillation#/media/File:Winter-NAO-Index.svg
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Even if you could, I have no idea why you would?
It doesn’t stop global warming.
Sea levels do not change if the ice melts.
The fish underneath are not grateful and the 4km of deep ocean is not affected.
King Cnut would not be impressed, the equivalent of pumping the tide out to sea.
And with the Panama nearly closed for lack of water and the Red Sea closed by Iran, a melted Artic would be fantastic.
So use the power to melt the ice!
And we are getting close to 1st April.
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People have been seeking a viable Northwest Passage since Christopher Columbus in 1492.
The first complete passage wasn’t made by Roald Amundsen in 1903–1906.
Bring it on!
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Erratum. In the second last sentence “by” should be “until”.
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I subscribed to the email list of the Union of Concerned Scientists about 10 years ago after Anthony Watts said that they were sending emails to his dog. I did it just to see what they were concerned about (which is everything environmental). As far as I can see there cannot be a single real scientist among them.
I just have to ignore the constant appeals for money!
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I realised from a conversation with an old local that anyone can call themselves a Climate Scientist and he was serious.
Just like you can call yourself a historian if you read today’s paper or a doctor if you have applied a band aid. The bar to Climate Scientist is very low, as Flim Flannery knows. Like the barrier to being a rent seeking aborigine as Bruce Pascoe knows.
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Even a school drop out like Dr Greta Thunberg can become famous and wealthy identifying as a “climate scientist” even though her honorary doctorate is in theology…
Well, I guess that is completely appropriate after all, the Klimate Kult is indeed a religion and not science.
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Correct again David and even Dr Finkel had to tell the truth in the Senate hearing.
Even if we Aussies stopped all our co2 emissions today, there would be ZIP difference to our climate or temp or……?
But the leftie extremists like BO Bowen, Albo and the stupid Greens etc continue with their BS and FRAUD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJY8xKknpms
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I am surprised they didn’t claim to be lowering the sea-level as well as increasing albedo… or did they?
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They might understand that if you warm the top of ice by pouring liquid water on it, it will melt at the bottom.
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10 million wind-powered pumps to thicken sea-ice across just a tenth of the Arctic. And 50 million + workers to install and maintain them. And how many more to remove them before the spring thaw? Not to mention support industries to house and feed them all.
These people have no concept of reality.
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They have a very well-developed concept of reality. The reality that the bigger and more futile the project, the bigger the government grants are.
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Building Arctic ice, nearly as easy as aerating the Darling River.
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Not easy to find that picture. I thought it might be a stock ice fishing photo, but no.
We are developing a new concept which makes use of specific locations around the Arctic Ocean to create ice and then have it transported into the Arctic waters by existing ocean currents. Through this much more effective ice distribution process and larger pumps, we believe the number of installations, necessary to save a 100.000 square kilometers of ice from melting during the summer, can be reduced dramatically to about 100 to 1000 installations.
https://arcticreflections.earth/what-we-do/
Probably a generator. 😁
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It would have to be.
Wind and solar won’t work in the Arctic, or Antarctic.
Too much wind and not enough sun.
Australian attempts to build windmills in the Antarctic didn’t end well:
https://phys.org/news/2017-11-turbine-australia-antarctic-base.html
Australia being a fully woke, dumbed-down, virtue-signaling nation still persists with Antarctic wind and solar, however.
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Something that did work well and they ran of fossil fuel
https://www.antarctica.gov.au/magazine/issue-28-june-2015/history/antarctica-1-volkswagens-in-antarctica/
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Fascinating article. That puts in the shade my adventure when given a lift across the snowy, icy Berkshire Downs in a Beetle back in that winter of early 1963! Not to mention driving my ancient VW Beetle ‘Snoopy’ in freezing Germany in the 1970s.
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My first car was a 1958 VW beetle.
I have fonder memories of this car than most I have owned since.
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My second car was a VW based Meyers Manx clone beach buggy – purple/pink metal flake.
So much fun
https://meyersmanx.com/
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I had a late 60’s version to get around our rural property. Great clearance.
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More on the Mighty Beetle
https://www.clubvw.org.au/vwreference/roundaustralias/
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Don’t forget the “Grey Fergusons” that Hillary used
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Brings to mind the comment from a bloke who did postgraduate work in Edmonton, Canada –
“you know it is cold when your VW Beetle in the garage won’t start because the oi is frozen”
The operators manual for a 1952 IH TD6 of my acquaintnce had instructions down to -50F – IIRC
First one was that , if possible don’t stop the engine.
The coolant was 80% anti-freeze, the diesel was cut with kerosene or maybe petrol and the oil was about 80% kerosene.
If you had to stop it you first drained the coolant, then the oil and then stopped the engine
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“Today, wind power and solar power both contribute to the Australian Antarctic Program’s energy need”
What could be added: they contribute?
Minimally?
At extravagant cost.
As a political flag waving stunt.
With hidden and undisclosed costs to the environment.
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The actual location of the photo btw is Cambridge Bay north Canada, and in fact is number 5 in the top 6 for wind farm suitability with average wind speeds of 6m/s.
They’re currently investigating solar viability too, along with other “green” systems.
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Father Nature is laughing at this madness.
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Mercy, havent they seen those videos of whales struggling for breath in limited holes in the ice? Now they want to make it worse. Save the whales! Ban Arctic science fantasies!
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Amazing that we horrible (SARC) white people started the age of Reason or enlightenment and then the UK started the Industrial revolution and yet we’re hated around the world today.
I suppose the stupid lefties would be happy to return to the 1600s and live very brutal and very short lives ( under 30 years) and no mobile phones, no cars, no air travel, no air conditioners and no modern conveniences etc at all?
I only wish we could return these loonies to what they claim to believe in, but then again we could be on that path if we follow these donkey’s demands to build more TOXIC, UNRELIABLE W & S.
Putin, Xi, Iran and Nth Korea etc will be more that happy to take over and I’m sure there’ll be lots of love and kindness to help us out. SARC.
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Short 30 year lives. Indeed!
This is what I’m trying to explain to my dentist. As a male, I don’t look after myself and I explain this is perfectly natural.
Up to now, men never survived to old age, so we haven’t evolved to self-maintain. By my age I was supposed to have died in battle, a fight at the inn, or by work, by predator, cold weather, whatever. Now that we live longer, the idea of self-maintenance is not within our evolutionary experience, it’s a foreign concept, and a very feminine one.
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The gals had to stay around to help with the grandkids, the boys, not so much.
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Adam Bandt is obviously very keen to return to the 1600s. Sarc/
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Bio-engineering will end up destroying the world. That is my prediction. And, the environmentalists were right, man will end up destroying the world. They just didn’t realise they were talking about themselves, not Monty Burns.
The best thing about God – the great controller – was, no one knew if he was real or not. But once people smartened up, they killed that God and made a very real one, the all-knowing scientist, who most certainly has very real weapons at hand, and the motivation to use them. Perhaps the notion of “leaving it to the Gods” wasn’t as stupid as it sounds to us?
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How many solar panels will be required to power the pumps during the northern winter?
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The polar night starts on Nov 27th and the sun finally rises above the southern horizon on Jan 28th. That doesn’t even count the twilight except for mid day for the weeks on either side. Who needs albedo?
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So would an infinite number of solar panels do the job?
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FWIW
“We’ve spent billions of
dollars to set up solar
farms, now they’re talking
about spending billions of
dollars to block out the
sun
That’s a special kind of
stupid”
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Not stupid for the people who get their share of the billions of dollars being spent. The objective is not to achieve anything … they are looking for reasons to spend more.
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That’s the same kind of stupid as closing beaches, parks, and trails at the beginning of the pandemic. Suddenly fresh air, sunshine, and exercise were bad for everyone. Then later they declared that we were all going to become sick as soon as the weather cooled and we retreated indoors.
I had the feeling there were people in back rooms laughing their asses off the whole time.
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The fastest growing industry in the WORLD. Green stupidity. <:o)
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If I’d redo my past I’d study psychology. There will be fortunes to make in the coming decades from deprogramming those infected by the green mind virus. It will be called ‘degreening’.
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I see they are celebrating April Fools’ Day a tad early.
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Just seen TdeF’s comment at #9…you beat me to it!
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Hertz climate superhero sacked for bum-steer on EV fleet vehicles:
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/03/18/go-green-hertz-replacing-ceo-after-bet-on-electric-vehicles-falls-apart/
Time for our own green climate superhero, Climate Change and Energy Minister, Chris Bowen, to wake up and snap out of his own bum-steer.
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Another one
“German Lawmaker In Blistering Ukraine Speech To Parliament: “Have You All Lost Your Minds?” ”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/german-lawmaker-blistering-ukraine-speech-parliament-have-you-all-lost-your-minds
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You could add Britain, France and the US. All traditional enemies of Russia, the first two for two hundred years. And the Democrats since WWII. All nuclear armed except Germany. When did the world go mad and a tiny 1.5C of warming become more of an existential threat than nuclear war? While everyone forgets China, North Korea, Pakistan, Iran sitting on the sidelines watching the insanity.
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Weapons grade virtue signaling . We are wasting resources on pointless boondoggles created for the gullible . When are they going to put adults in charge again ?
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After they run out of other people’s money but before the evidence get found. The general approach to a crime of this size is to ensure you have a Patsy really to switch in when everything get close to full collapse.
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“Smashed Corals, & Civilizations – March 2024 Update”
https://jennifermarohasy.com/
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That’s interesting.
This thought never crossed my jumbled mind.
Is Artic Ice salty water, or fresh water?
I am inclined towards freshy sorta ice, as it would be precipitation. No?
If so, this is going to alter something. Mainly a lot of peoples wallets.
I’d say a tonne of ice per tonne of money.
Anyway, I don’t see it getting anywhere near what they claim to be doing.
It’s just so impractical, and it will require experiment to prove it is.
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It won’t come to fruition, but in the meantime there is grant money to be had.
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‘Is Artic Ice salty water, or fresh water?’
Fresh water freezes more readily than salty water, perhaps a few desalination plants would do the trick.
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No need to use pumps. Just get volunteers to form a bucket chain from the Arctic to some warmer and saltier bit of sea. (Caribbean, maybe.) More eco-friendly.
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Redirect the gulf stream to the Arctic and watch Europe freeze over. I am sure they could find some cute animal which would be happy with that.
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But just think of all the extra exhaling at 40,000 ppm per exhale.
If everybody on Earth held their breath for one minute once a day would that save the planet?
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That would be the end of Sleepy Joe.
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Leonard Nimoy presented the “Coming Ice Age” in 1978 and even the late warmist extremist Dr Steven Schneider was asked to provide an opinion at about 19 minutes. Very young and Afro hair.
Certainly we’ve been locked into Ice Ages or full glaciations for most of the last million years and only much shorter inter- glacial periods have allowed some relief.
Of course fully evolved Humans have only existed for about 300,000 years and for 99.9% of that time we’ve lived very brutal and short lives. In fact UNDER 30 years, see OWI Data.
In the Nimoy 1978 video Human life expectancy was 60.2 years and population was 4.3 billion.
AGAIN just forty six years later global Human life expectancy is 71 to 73 years and population is 8.1 billion. And wealthy OECD countries’ life expectancy are about 81 years for men and about 83 years for women today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQRqr9_jw5I
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These clowns have not looked at what actually occurs in the Arctic.
The sun never gets very high in the Arctic. At the poles, zenith is 23 degrees above the horizon. So the reflection of sunlight off the water is high even at zenith. Then open water is warmer than ice sitting on it and has much higher radiating power due to a combination of higher temperature and higher emissivity.
There is no place north of 80N that has positive radiation balance at any month of the year. There may be a positive balance for a few days of the year. The sea ice melts due t warm air and water coming in from the south..
I expect that insulating the water with ice will increase heat retention and actually makes the ocean warmer. It is feature of the powerful negative feedback that sea ice presents.
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It’s the vibe. Not science.
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Assuming this brain-fart works at scale. Where does the salt ppte/ hyper saline brine go once the ice has formed ontop of the existing ice sheet? When the modified icesheet melts in summer what happens? Will the seawater salinty below change above what normally happens and the consequences? etc.
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We used to put salt on the roads in UK as it allowed water to just remain liquid at minus 2ºC. It would seem to me that when sunlight returns to the Arctic ice sheet in spring, the salted surface would melt earlier and that layer of liquid brine would help trap sunlight and probably accelerate the melt rate.
Bimbo prize for this idea.
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Actually, sea-ice formation is a weird and variable process. Generally, > 5 year old ice is quite low in salt but even first year ice is a little less salty than the sea it was formed from. The matter is complicated by albedo changes. Open water only reflects about 5% of sunlight where-as sea-ice is about 50 to 70% and a thin layer of snow on top increases that to 80 or 90%.
Let’s “save the Arctic” with a layer of builders’ foil-backed bubble-wrap !
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https://australian5.com/2024/03/17/ex-aussie-star-calls-greta-thunberg-a-demonic-little-gremlin/
Ex-Aussie Star Calls Greta Thunberg a ‘Demonic Little Gremlin’
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Where does the money for this come from? I’m asking for a friend who has a bridge that can keep CO2 at below 350 ppm.
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You just know the law of unintended consequences will probably apply. They will end up making the water/ surrounding ice warmer or the diesel gensets providing the power will leak fuel and kill a whole heap of local fish or seals. It will be not unlike Australian climate change professor Chris Turney’s venture to retrace a 1912 research expedition in Antarctica and gauge how climate change was affecting the continent. (2013/14) Two weeks into the five-week excursion, Turney’s good ship MV Akademik Shokalskiy got trapped in ice, then had to be rescued!!
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Terraforming, which is what this is, is a science fiction fantasy (Jack Williamson, “Collision Orbit” 1942). It has no realistic associatiom with reality because any amount of energy or geographical changes that can be produced by humans are insignificant with the natural forces required to effect any changes to the planet.
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Where is Slartibartfast when you need him?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slartibartfast
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Quote of the year:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c-u8-R3M5Y
@~~2:18
“There will be NO Carbon Tax under a government I lead………” has competition.
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They put salt on the roads to melt the ice.
Brine is used to achieve subzero temps while still being a liquid.
Making it thicker does not increase surface area.
Ice is not snow, it is transparent to opaque and absorbs light.
I can’t help thinking this will do the exact opposite of its intended purpose. Which is probably its intended purpose.
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It all seems so comical until you realise it’s all taxpayer money being pissed up against the wall.
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In the seventies scientists were keen,
To make the Arctic less white and more green,
That diverted rivers heat,
And melt the ice sheet,
According to Geographical magazine.
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In the chill of Arctic breeze,
Beneath the frozen, howling seas,
Brave souls embark on a wild decree,
To save the world, or so they plea.
Pumping seawater onto ice’s domain,
In winter’s grip, where cold does reign,
Their quest: to thicken, to maintain,
Ice sheets, against warming’s bane.
Yet, in this tale of daring feat,
A question lingers, sharp and discreet,
Where does the energy source meet,
To power pumps in icy retreat?
Does it tether to a diesel’s roar,
Hidden amidst the Arctic’s core?
Or does the sun, its rays outpour,
In solar panels, evermore?
The BBC, with tale in hand,
Skims o’er this detail, makes no stand,
For ‘insane’ they deem this plan grand,
Like a diamond skate park, unplanned.
Scientists, donned in parkas tight,
Witness saltwater, in frozen flight,
Hoping to halt warming’s might,
As sea-ice thickens, out of sight.
But oh, the scale, the vast expanse,
Of Arctic’s ice, in cosmic dance,
A feat so grand, a daring chance,
Yet where’s the fuel in this romance?
Millions of pumps, the BBC implies,
Wind-powered, ‘neath Arctic skies,
Yet whispers linger, silent cries,
Of diesel’s hum, ‘neath icy guise.
And in this tango, a salty twist,
Might melt the ice, a dangerous tryst,
Yet worse, the fear, should fuels persist,
With guiltless burn, they can’t resist.
In this insanity, a paradox unfurls,
As Arctic’s fate, in turmoil swirls,
A tale of hope, against the whirls,
Of climate’s dance, in icy curls.
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In case anyone wants to learn some fascinating stuff about the Arctic, like air black with mosquitoes in the summer, swampy conditions that make travel impossible, so little precipitation over the course of the year that it would be a desert anywhere else on earth, etc.:
https://books.google.com/books?id=hITNAAAAMAAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+World%27s+Work,+Vol.+43&hl=en#v=onepage&q=Stefansson&f=false
The North that Never Was, Vilhjalmur Stefansson, The World’s Work, Vol. 43, 1921-22, p. 188
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https://www.google.com/books/edition/Arctic_Manual/IZZJDRjcXjwC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Arctic+Circle,+summer+heat&pg=PA40&printsec=frontcover
Arctic Manual, US Army Air Corp, 1940
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Any person with a functioning brain just has to read this to realise we took the wrong fork in the road a long time ago.
Hopefully the generator doesn’t have any residual current protection.
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The lunacy knows no bounds…Whilst the mug taxpayer is funding it of course.
I remember back in the Rudd “permanent drought” days, the Australian Catholic Uni was gifted hundreds of thousands to study the bible and work how people dealt with climate change back in Jesus’ time and how it might be applied today.
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Call me a sceptic … but when ice normally freezes algae will move away from the freezing so as not to get entrapped, so ice normally is extremely clean. But, if you pump up water containing algae, then the algae will form a layer on the surface that will darken the surface and speed up melting. Also, when ice freezes, it preferentially freezes water, so that the water that freezes is less salty than the sea. Which means that if you spread out salt carrying water from below, the ice will again tend to melt.
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