By Jo Nova
Our news is filled with fatuous lies every single day.
Mr Bowen, Minister for Changing the Weather, wants to force efficiency standards on Australian cars so we “have more choices”, he says. Mysteriously, it seems there are companies overseas making cheap, clean, wonderful cars who selfishly refuse to sell them to us. Crazy eh?
Would that be because:
- Car salesmen want to save the world?
- There’s no market for efficient cars here. Australians prefer cars that burn up and waste fuel!
- It costs more to sell to nations with no efficiency standards since they have to install the Fuel Worse-ifier?
Or could it be they know Australians won’t buy their damn cars unless the government bans the cheaper ones first?
Mr Bowen, now says they never had a target. Of course! And people are mobbing him in the street wanting to buy expensive European EV’s:
Chris Bowen ditches doomed EV sales target
By Jess Malcolm, The Australian
Energy and Climate Change Minister Chris Bowen has walked away from Labor’s target to have 89 per cent of new car sales electric by 2030, casting doubt on the government’s green agenda.
“We don’t have a particular EV target,” Mr Bowen said on Wednesday morning.”
“We have a determination to give Australians more choices. So many Australians come up to me in the street and say, I’d like my next car to be an EV but I’m not really seeing the range of choices that are affordable.
“And they’re right because there are many more affordable EVs that are available in other countries that aren’t available here because we don’t have efficiency standards.”
It’s like he believes political rules create miles-per-gallon efficiency, not engineering.
Or perhaps he’s not serving the Australian people at all, but some entity somewhere has promised him a great job one day if he can help create a market for cars in Australia that hardly anyone would willingly buy if they weren’t forced to?
Blackout Bowen wants us all to have an EV. What a Wally ‘Pollie’ –
Pollie put the kettle on,
Pollie put the kettle on,
Pollie put the kettle on,
We’ll all have an EV.
A Nursery Crime
The real Nursery Rhyme is –
Polly put the kettle on,
Polly put the kettle on,
Polly put the kettle on,
We’ll all have tea.
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I’ll happily be corrected but I’m fairly sure every car built anywhere in the world that has been imported into Aus in the last decade at least will have been built to whatever euro emissions standard level was in place at the time and often will have already met a future standard. Bowen just lies through his teeth to push his lunatic agenda and counts on the general ignorance of the population.
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You are correct Ray. The local market is too small for O/S manufacturers to do unique fuel consumption calibrations that ‘turn the wick up’ just for us! The government is aiming for a a fleet average fuel consumption target which would penalise local vehicle sales companies who don’t ‘balance’ the bigger vehicles they sell with smaller more efficient ones or EVs of any size.
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This is how Tesla makes the real money; by selling green indulgences to car makers that need to ‘balance out’ their average emissions to keep under the penalty level.
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As Sergeant Schultz would say “I see nothing, I see nothing” und so do vee if vee over look the V(W).
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I drive an Isuzu MUX SUV 4WD diesel, it has a particulate filter system and conforms to Euro 5 Standard, purchased new late in 2017.
New motor vehicles cannot be registered here unless they comply to Australian New Zealand Standard for emissions.
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Dennis, the EU moved to “Euro6” standards in 2014,
..and will impliment Euro 7 before 2030.
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Mine is late 2017 build and Euro 5
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And as such is different to a similar 2017 model sold in the EU.!
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From Drive.com….
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The change from Euro-5 to Euro-6 doesn’t make your car use less fuel.
It’s mostly about reducing NOx from tiny amounts down to ridiculously tiny amounts.
The efficiency standards apply when they add up all the different cars sold and then work out how to apply a tax that drives up the price of larger models … in other words a ute tax. By taxing people more, this will somehow save money … and when that fails, as it obviously must fail, they will tell everyone to shut up and not talk about it anymore.
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There are only three countries in the OECD that don’t have vehicle CO2 emission or fuel efficiency standards. Those countries are Russia, Australia, and New Zealand.
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Russia is not a member of the OECD.
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It was but has been suspended.
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Got you there Simon. LOL
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Correct, I had forgotten Russia had been booted out. There are therefore only two outliers.
Many of the below posters below seem unaware of the ‘tragedy of the commons’. Every individual, village, city, even country can try and argue “But our contribution is so small” but the argument is a fallacy. Externalities matter.
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More leftist clap-trap.
The RACIST Leftist elites want to deny the poor in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Africa the right to have affordable motor bikes (let alone cars) in their “save the planet” scam.
The wealthy in the West can by EV’s to virtue signal when in most cases these EV’s actually mainly run on COAL. Such is the intelligence of this lot!
So much for these “externalities”.
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Did you read here about Toyota’s white car factory that produces easy to service mainly 4WDs and trucks with no emissions equipment?
For developing countries, United Nations and others to use in developing countries.
A large production factory and market.
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Our contribution is very small, its a scientific fact.
Oz and our cousin across the gap are giving the finger to this insanity.
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‘Externalities matter.’
Only in your imaginings.
‘In economic-speak, we call these “things that cause harm” negative externalities, and climate change is the ultimate negative externality.’ (Brookings)
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Simon the entire SH is already a net zero sink and anyway NZ is only 0.1% of global co2 emissions and Aussies only 1%.
See the CSIRO Cape Grim site for NH a net source and SH a net sink of co2.
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https://www.atlasiron.com.au/australia-has-been-at-net-zero-for-a-long-time-ian-plimer-rowan-dean-the-outsiders/
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Simon, you and those who tell you what to think have no moral right to tell me what sort of car I drive or indeed if I, as a non-Elite, are allowed to own a car at all.
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The state insists that you have RWC and registration. It that morally unethical?
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Not all states
SA does not have regular (annual) vehicle inspections (at least, for cars) so no roadworthy certificate
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No regular RWC down in Tas either..
Keep going Simon, you’ll get it eventually.
https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_sb0cnhY5YM1yq0dl2.mp4
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Also no annual inspections of cars in WA
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Australia has fuel efficiency standards. They are not CO2 centric. We need more CO2 in the air as there is a shortage. CO2 is plant food. We eat plant seed, fruit and meat grown from plant fibre and seed. Vast amounts of effort and money are used to increased plant growth. The simplest method is just to increase the atmospheric CO2.
Reducing atmospheric CO2 by government regulation is insane.
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“Reducing atmospheric CO2 by government regulation is insane.”
It is linked to the overall push to reduce food production so as to limit world population.
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Regulation has worked for CFCs, NOX, sulpher, and particulates so it’s not like there isn’t a precedent.
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Those things are pollutants, CO2 is not.
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The constant fear of everything. Particles in your HEPA filtered world? Nitrogen and Oxygen are 99% of the atmosphere.
Sulphur is the 8th most common element in our bodies and essential for all life, we add it to our cattle lick as it aids the uptake of other elements. Australia is deficient in Sulphur.
The ozone myth is a lie from start to end, everything in our land, oceans and atmosphere was created by our planet, except for you and I have no idea where you came from, but you’re not human.
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You are comparing a beneficial gas, CO2, to toxic emissions, SOx, NOx, mercury, cadmium, CFCs etc. This is like saying beer will kill you if drunk by the keg. Its 400ppm. Hopefully we can get it to 700ppm asap.
CO2 is in short supply. Try buying a bottle and you will know just how much it costs.
The CO2 is going to fry the world argument is about the money! Anyone who believes the ignorant, rent seekers or grifters needs to invest in a bridge in Sydney.
Better yet go to the renewable state, South Australia, or the about to be bankrupt state, Victoria and wait for the lights to go out when they run out of diesel and gas.
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‘Regulation has worked for CFCs …’
But the science was wrong, the ozone hole comes and goes with the seasons.
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Sorry EG, bad steering.
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Try eating a CFC and you will see what I mean. Not worried about ozone.
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Except that, if you look at the data, CFCs didn’t actually create the ozone ‘hole’ in the Antarctic. It’s quite natural and cyclic. The panic over the ozone hole was manufactured by taking two data points at a local high point and a local low point and screaming ‘we’re all going to die’ over and over.
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DuPont made a motza in the transition.
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Simon you’ve been linked to the correct CSIRO co2 data for NH and SH and populations, so please tell us what would be the difference to the Earth’s temp if we stopped all Aussie and NZ co2 emissions today?
And please don’t forget the soaring co2 emissions from China, India and other NON OECD countries.
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🙂
The atmospheric CO2 levels have No Input to atmospheric temperature.
The Sun gives the Earth one dose of energy each day and our biggest worry is that we use and lose too much of it.
If only the remnants of the incoming UV could be held here instead of being excreted as PWIR back out to space.
If there was no co2 in the atmosphere it would make no difference to world temperature because, in the atmosphere all gases work together and share the load.
The CO2 scare is all about the money and personal power to control others .
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Since the first COP in Berlin in 1995 global CO2 emissions have risen by 50%!
Chinese made solar panels and wind mills have been a great success.
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CO2 Lover
Yes it would probably surprise some that in 1950 Earth’s atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, 22% oxygen and some trace gases, including CO2, and it’s still the same in 2024.
A recent USA Senate Enquiry concluded that atmospheric CO2 content was probably +/- 15% with individual estimates varying wildly, compared with the actual 0.04% or 375 times reality.
My grade 9 arithmetic suggests that at 420 ppm one CO2 molecule exists in 2,381 molecules of air. Assuming the man-made CO2 content is 3.5% (IPCC), the only part that Bowen can change, indicates that there is ONE man-made CO2 molecule in 68,027 molecules of air.
Bowen intends to reduce this by 34% to ONE CO2 molecule in 50,766 molecules of air which will obviously save the planet from catastrophic man-made climate change but at a massive absolutely unnecessary cost.
Have I got this right?
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Perhaps reduce concentration to 1 in 91,156 molecules. Otherwise concentrate is increasing??
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Terrence, almost right. In a dry atmosphere the “air” is made up of 78% Nitrogen and 21% Oxygen totalling 99%.
These percentages of atmospheric gases are for a completely dry atmosphere. The atmosphere is rarely, if ever, dry. Water vapor (water in a gas state) is nearly always present, up to about 4% of the total volume.
In a very humid/wet atmosphere the % amounts are less.
The remaing 1% is Argon 0.934% then Carbon Dioxide at approx 0.035%. then Neon, Helium, Methane and then 9 other gases in minute quantities.
I was pretty good at arethmetic up to grade 8, so I can’t comment on your grade 9 caculations:)
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Thanks Geoff from Tanjill I wondering how water vapour fitted in.
Do you think these numbers might help Bowen understand the reality of his stupid Quest and can we do anything to stop/slow him down?
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You make a very good point. Many years ago when this CO2 malarkey was in its infancy, I checked how CO2 is measured….the water vapour is stripped out before analysis. So to establish “real” atmospheric conditions you have to consider the water budget (as an aside there is another meaning for medieval scholars, but I digress…). Anyway we know that water vapour is a highly variable and significant moderator of atmospheric temperature (compare nightly minimums in winter in the desert when there is no cloud cover vs nights when it’s cloudy). As a scientist I reject the importance of CO2 in determining weather.
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Source ?
I have not Heard of any credible dispute over the NOAA CO2 current data records. (420 ppm)
Or were they refering to the “Historic” proxy data from ice cores ?
( which many believe could be totally unrepresentitive of actual CO2 at the time )
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Simple Simon met a car salesman going to the fair in 2030;
Says Simple Simon to the car salesman, “What have you there?”
Electric Cars not powered by coal and approved by blackout Bowen!
Simple Simon, “Oh thanks Comrade!”
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Most of Australia is off grid and electricity is generated by diesel fuelled generators.
Travel “outback” and observe the many up to four tanker trailer fuel road trains.
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The OECD represent only 17.3 % of the world population they are close to being irrelevant
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“So many Australians come up to me in the street …”
Excuse me while I upchuck!
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Just ask George Negus whether it is a good idea to report on what people in the street tell you…
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They said he drilled her and that she was racist and arrogant. Why? Because she had the temerity to stand up to the arrogant George Negus. He sounded much like the reporter trying to catch the apple crunching Canadian Opposition Leader out. Both interviewers were caught out by a superior intelligence.
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Why won’t governments let people do what they want, buy what they want and live their lives as they want. A government that wants to dictate how you live is not a democratic government but an autocratic government and goes against common law the basis for our legal system. Labor and their cousins, the Greens and Teals, have forgotten that they work for us not the other way around. Stalin and Mao indeed made the serfs work for the government and it seems Albo learnt from them. This ALP government is so 1950s it should go back there and rot.
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Correction: The Greens and Teals aren’t Labor’s cousins. They’re their thought police.
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I would challenge any city EV nut to pitch their EV SUV up against my ICE SUV in the bush. Let’s see them work all day driving on dirt tracks, hauling trailer loads of sand and gravel etc.
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And yet the Prime Minister won’t be driving an EV.
Typical Leftist Elite hypocrite (a triple tautology, I know).
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“As a result of all the heavy-duty armour, the weight of the BMW 7 Series limousine climbs from about two tonnes to close to three tonnes.” Add another tonne for a battery that couldn’t convey the drive +1 from Yarralumla to parliament.
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My Isuzu 4WD diesel can on country trips without a trailer manage close to 850 kms on a full tank of fuel, the later models can achieve 1,000 kms and have a slightly larger capacity fuel tank however, mine weighs approximately 25 per cent of the weight of Tesla theoretical 500 km range EV battery pack.
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La nouvelle noblesse n’oblige rien
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Lawrie:
“Why won’t governments let people do what they want, buy what they want and live their lives as they want?”
Because that is NOT what being a criminally malicious, totalitarian sociopath is about?
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Did anyone notice it was Earth Day recently?
I missed it.
Had I known, I would have gifted “Mother Earth” with an EXTRA LARGE ALLOTMENT OF CO2.
I would have also gone for a long drive in my 6 litre (366in^3) V8 car.
And I would have proudly boasted to all the Leftists so as to trigger them and make them find a “safe space” to have a meltdown in, LoL.
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David, you may want to re-set your calendar: April 22 is that dreaded day of infamy – so you have another chance to freak the sheep whilst helping plants grow via your V8’s exhaust.
I did my bit on Tuesday by boarding a jet plane from Queenstown to Auckland and, my oh my, what a wonderful way to travel, high above the clouds & snow with views from coast to coast. It’s still snowing down south today with more tomorrow, while I’m in shorts & T-shirt again. Having had a quick dip in the Great Southern Ocean, I can assure Jo’s readers the sea is definitely NOT boiling in the Roaring Forties.
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Thanks Greg.
Oops!
I mixed it up with Earth Hour Sat, 23 Mar 2024, 8:30 pm – 9:30 pm Eastern Australia Time.
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Miss hit, meant to be green.
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Yes, I switched some more lights on 😀
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I missed it too; would have put lights on all over the place in celebration of electricity (while we still have any 🙁 ) if I had remembered. We were too busy dozing on the sofa while trying to watch the beautiful English countryside on Escape to the country!
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Just the lights Annie? I would have set the oven to pyrolytic…
Dang. Sorry I missed it.
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Also use the washing machine, dryer and dishwasher.
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You can bolt in a 454, no worries…..
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If everyone drove an EV, and the world had no coal, gas, nuclear or real hydro (not SH2) power stations, where would all the electricity to charge them come from.
Serious question.
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The obvious answer is that the EVs (of non-Elites) wouldn’t and couldn’t be charged.
We all know the ultimate long term objective of the Left is to have us (non-Elites) all live in the open air prisons known as 15 Minute Cities or as the marketing people chose to call them in Australia, “20 Minute Neighbourhoods”.
https://intelligence.weforum.org/monitor/latest-knowledge/8d496bec33e74bd9b0e0eaf99b9a1f8f
https://unfccc.int/news/the-15-minute-city
https://www.planning.vic.gov.au/guides-and-resources/strategies-and-initiatives/20-minute-neighbourhoods
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Not only could they not be used. They could never be manufactured.
Only total morons can be blind to this obvious reality.
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You forgot the genocidal megalomaniacal psychopaths with God complexes who are currently ruling the world.
At present, they are indeed getting away with ruling the world, whether we like to admit it or not.
You’ll have noticed that no matter what we vote for or against, no matter what feedback or “consultation” we give them, our own politicians just keep on ploughing ahead with the agendas of these foreign maniacs. They are not governing for us or on our behalf, but for unelected foreign dictators.
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Hubris is customarily closely followed by Nemesis.
The “timetable” just needs “tweaking”.
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And now for BOBS next “prestidigitation”
Energy ‘black hole’ inevitable without coal-fire stopgap! Whether it’s Labor or the Coalition we face a black hole in energy supply from the late 2020s to the 2040s. The only difference is Peter Dutton’s nuclear option provides light at the end of the tunnel.
MICHAEL ASTEN
The Australian Contributor
And from the same source
“Eraring extension to cost $150m a year. A renewable energy think tank says NSW taxpayers would be up for up to $150m a year if a deal with Origin to extend the life of the Eraring coal-fired power station were reached.
By COLIN PACKHAM
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Communism was doomed from the beginning. Did they miss all the red flags? Lol.
The trouble is, that Socialism is the new Communism. But, there are still those red flags.
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Serious question – And the silly answer is –
Everyone would need to get on their own Hamster wheel linked to a dynamo and start running like………………
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A hamster like Stefan….
https://youtu.be/ZNa-JHPnpgM
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Very good. I seem to remember seeing that before somewhere, maybe here a few years ago?
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I’d like to see Blackout Bowen in there………..LOL
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The fuel taxes paid by ICE vehicles users pay for road construction and maintenance, with a lot left over for other Government spending. The GST on the fuel taxes helps contribute to other Government spending. If everyone drove EVs there would be no fuel tax or GST on fuel tax, so where would the money come from for road construction and maintenance.
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A very good question.
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Has anyone had a go at capturing lightning bolts.
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Ben Franklin?
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Phone NRMA or RACQ or equivalent for a lift to the nearest recharge station and hope that it is working, and that your phone app can connect.
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I don’t understand this. So, Australia drives cars that are unique to Australia that consume vast quantities of petrol and produce large amounts of co2 while the rest of the world drive efficient cars? Really? How does the small Australian market make such a demand? I thought all cars were made overseas now. I understand there are certain engineering standards etc, but the rest of the world has efficient engines and they sell cheap gas burners to Aus? Really?
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This is what Simple Simon (above) would have us believe – that car manufacturers (US, Europe, China, South Korea, Japan etc) all have separate production lines for the small number of vehicles allocated to the Australian market, and these lines deliberately produce vehicles that are more fuel-inefficient than all the other lines.
And the Simple Simon’s of the country have the votes.
Just for Simple Simon – the Siberian car market in Russia is dominated by “grey” Japanese imports brought in through the Vladivostok port and greased all the way along the Siberian rail line, so one sees RHD on RH roads. Made me quite nervous travelling in those cars, but not because of their “pollution”.
[Check your email – Jo]
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The socialists just hate the fact that the most popular vehicle in Australia is a utility vehicle (what us Aussies call a ute, and a lot of the world call a pick up). I think also they hate the fact that now there are so many of the larger American style pickups on the road as well. Not sure where you are ianl, but in my part of regional Victoria there would appear to be an ever increasing number of these vehicles. RAMS especially but now lots of the other brands- Chevs, Ford 150’s. Also notice how the slightly smaller Tritons, Hilux, Ranger etc have gone for that “big” look.
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British services in BAOR in Germany drove RHD on RH roads with no particular problems. As we did both times we were stationed there.
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Only issue is visibility for overtaking…..
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…and just for fun, in the Bahamas (where I lived for a number of years) they drive on the left, as we do, but the cars are all LHD. It makes for fun when overtaking on a narrow road!
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I’ve rented cars in Europe and I think what the nummies in Canberra are talking about regards ‘efficiency’ is smaller engined cars with about 1.0 to 1.6 litre engines with a turbo strapped to them.
No manufacturer is making anything specifically for OZ.
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Really?
No of course not really. You can buy hybrids, and EV’s right now in Australia but not all that many people want them.
There won’t be any savings for the Australian consumer … but somehow government regulators always think they are the smartest people in the world and if only the stupid working class would do what they are told we could all be much happier.
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Here’s the quote from the CSIRO Tassie Cape Grim site and the SH is a net SINK and the NH is a net SOURCE of co2.
https://capegrim.csiro.au/
“Seasonal variation”
“Carbon dioxide concentrations show seasonal variations (annual cycles) that vary according to global location and altitude. Several processes contribute to carbon dioxide annual cycles: for example, uptake and release of carbon dioxide by terrestrial plants and the oceans, and the transport of carbon dioxide around the globe from source regions (the Northern Hemisphere is a net source of carbon dioxide, the Southern Hemisphere a net sink)”.
The SH would have under 1 billion people and the NH would be 7.1 billion in 2024.
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This is the same playbook as energy. Coal didn’t suddenly become expensive or inefficient the government subsidised the alternative so that companies are forced to respond in a certain way. All this has done is force a pattern of consumer behaviour that follows the government agenda. Not only has this had huge cost of living impacts and destroyed the efficiency of our energy supply its impact of reducing emissions is problematic with significant excess emissions involved in the production process. Add to that the enormous issue of disposal of renewables and EV batteries and the huge amounts of land required for renewables the true environmental damage is massive,
These government policies tick all three boxes
More expensive, more inefficient and worse for the environment. And people still vote for these clowns.
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I do understand Bowen’s frustration though, as he turns up to Parliament House on his 125 cc motorbike, refuses to take flights, while Barnaby Joyce gets out of his v12 RAM and flies his private jet from Armidale to Canberra.
Did Albo have a word to Taylor Swift about her private jet at the afterparty backstage? Or was he so excited by the concert he just got an autograph, giggled and left it at that? And on what on earth is an old man doing at a concert for 14-year-old girls anyway?
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Hypocrisy is the new Game in Town as the Lefties don’t like Democracy.
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Would Blackout’s legs reach the ground for him to manage a 125 cc motor bike?
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Perv??
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Just to add to this totalitarian madness, last night the Government passed the Digital Identity Bill.
No doubt your mandated car will be linked to your Person Number.
You can be certain that the scope of the legislation will become more pervasive and intrusive with time.
How long before microchip ID implants (like pets) will also be mandatory for non-Elites?
The Left will be ecstatic.
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https://thelightaustralia.com/assets/pdf/ISSUE-10-THE-LIGHT-FINAL-VERSION_SCREEN.pdf
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This seemed to be something the National Socialists were very keen on in the early 30’s, it was very handy for finding those of a certain ethnicity, what could possibly go wrong in these days of oriental hackers.
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Are you aware that the Albanese Government now requires private sector people to sign an in confidence agreement before meetings?
That was the case on highly confidential and including national security matters but now used to stop people talking.
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They finally got the Australia Card they wanted since 1985.
Mind you, they were doing it anyway on the sly … you have a tax file number and that’s almost as good as a national ID. Most people have a Medicare number, and there would be a reason for the name “Centerlink” … you know, linking everything at the center and all that.
Then there’s Austrac, getting data on your bank accounts … pretty much everything you do, except for cash … and there’s a war against the cash right now. Are we really supposed to believe that Armourguard can’t make a profit when they have no competition in the industry and could simply raise fees?
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“Any colour you like as long as it’s black” – Henry Ford.
“Any engine you like as long as it’s electric” – Chris Bowen.
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Would anybody care to speculate on just how this nonsense will eventually unravel? Will a major political party repudiate the zero-carbon agenda? Will a new political party rise with a fossil fuel agenda?
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More than likely. Society may well need to Crash and Burn first. Then, pitchfork sales will rocket.
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“Then, pitchfork sales will rocket.”
Buy early in anicipation of the green hydrogen steel shortage
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The usual:
Intimidation, oppression, “internment”, disappearances, mass graves.
As per the old Erma Bombeck quip:
“Well mat the grass be greener over the septic tank, but the grass is always greenest over the mass graves”.
Can’t happen here? “Couldn’t happen in a Europe still recovering from the many horrors of the First Great Unpleasantness, either. But it DID. And they were outright pikers compared to Stalin and Mao. In a basically agrarian backwater in South East Asia, Saloth Sar and his minions murdered several million of “their own people between 1975 and 1979. A major proportion of the killing was done by children between the ages of eight and fourteen. Typical socialists. Pol Pot’s Year Zero project was and remains the “model” for all who rampage in their footsteps. The KR killed a greater proportion of their own population than any other known “totalitarian regime. I’m sure there are numerous “idealistic types out there,looking at these body-count numbers and saying: “Here, hold my Chardonnay……..”
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The staggering technical, scientifific and engineering cluelessness of our politicians is alarming.
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The less said about Chris Bowen, the better.
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Not on my watch! This nincompoop needs as much exposure as possible to highlight his idiotic utterings.
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The tragic thing is that due to the dumbing-down of the “education” system, a vast majority of the people don’t comprehend what’s wrong with what he says.
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I know Penguinite. You read articles about him in the media and then read all the accompanying comments from subscribers. The list of words used to describe (like nincompoop) him are hilarious. The funny thing is probably the cat and mouse game played with the moderators who obviously reject so many comments with too many profanities. I really need Kevin Bloody Wilson to describe Chris Bowen in a song.
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I know that facts don’t count for our blog donkeys, but the last full glaciation lasted from about 115,000 years ago to about 11,700 years ago and then the Holocene inter-glacial started to warm up.
But during that full glaciation co2 levels dropped to about 180 ppm or just 30 ppm above the level when plants start to suffer their death pangs.
Do we really want to WASTE endless TRILLIONS of $ for a ZERO result for decades into the future, when we’ve just reached the greatest increase in Human FLOURISHING in history?
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There is an evil abroad that cannot bear to see humans flourishing. While civilisation is at its best ever for the vast bulk of humanity, there is a deep resentment of this on the part of ‘what’? I know what I call it. ‘It’ cannot bear to see happy, healthy, energetic, busy, thinking people but must destroy by whatever means can be employed.
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There’s people out there who cannot stand to see other humans flourishing … but are very happy to see themselves flourishing.
It’s the destructive instinct to forever look at what the other guy got, and never focus on self-improvement.
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“Do we really want to WASTE endless TRILLIONS of $ for a ZERO result for decades into the future…..?”
Think of the “spillage!
Believe,the usual guilty bastards are right onto it.
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The lives of conservatives and fellow rational thinkers are in the hands of the clueless politicians and the Sheeple, a vast majority of whom have no appropriate or relevant education and what used to be called, common sense.
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QUESTION FOR LEFTISTS
What would a world with carbon dioxide be like, that’s what you call “carbon” (sic)?
And if you do accept a role for carbon dioxide, what is an appropriate level?
What happens if atmospheric carbon dioxide falls below around 200ppm? Do you know?
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You probably meant a ” world without carbon dioxide?”
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Yes! Oops!
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They will just say that want 1990’s level, because…. reasons.
It won’t fall below because i’d it does they will just burn oil to make sure it doesn’t.
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Fantastic news.
Viciously anti-car Melbournistan Lord Mayoress Sally Capp just resigned.
Even though she hated cars, like all hypocritical Leftist Elites, she loved spending taxpayer money on limousine rides, over $30,000 worth in fact.
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/melbourne-lord-mayor-sally-capp-should-be-ashamed-for-spending-more-than-30000-on-ratepayerfunded-limousine-travel/news-story/ed5d9d47ab26949999b9b12b07c33c7e?amp
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No, she loves cars, just not yours.
Wait, Sally Capp, wasn’t she Andys’ missus.
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Most politicians are leeches when it comes to spending taxpayers money. Very few ever pay a price for their parasitic spending habits. Even when they do pay a price, such as resignation in this case, they generally get an over generous pension for their “service” to the public.
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David, maybe not….. could that idiot Nicholas Reece be next up ?????????? (though I agree it is fantastic news !!!)
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Maybe the great buffoon has read the paper which says EVs sales are tanking.
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Can he read?
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Maybe his carer read it to him.
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The EV craze is self limiting and it’s hitting its limits now . No one wants to buy a used EV because of battery replacement costs and insurance costs (due to fire risk) and its affecting new prices and demand. For now the voters have been hoodwinked into believing that we have an “existential crisis” but they will vote with their wallets on this . The tide is turning – the desperation of the proponents of “climate change” is increasing as they seek to silence the growing opposition of rationalists . This is a major backflip that would have been impossible until now . We have smoke , the fire is coming…
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Chris Bowen doublespeak. Similar to Snowball and Squeeler of Orwell’s Animal Farm with their obfuscation to hide the real truth. In our case, the illustrious Minister for Climate Change has to:
As an indication of how totalitarian we’ve become, notional ‘Newspeak’ meter needles are starting to bend around their stop-posts, with especially high responses in the diesel and petrol fueled off-road community.
As to the future for Chris Bowen, we may have to to ‘let him go’.
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I’m waiting, more than likely in vain, for our honourable opposition leader, PM in waiting, to announce that in addition to a nuclear power policy, he will kill off the renewables hoax, simply with one stroke of a pen, end all subsidies. The end of subsidies, tax breaks, tariff & excise duties which punish commonsense and seek to promote the economic disaster which the renewables industries & proponents thereof are driving the nation into!
If we don’t a move toward killing off this renewables madness I’ll assume that when/if he becomes PM there will in fact be no fundamental changes. Therefore why swap one mob of loonies for another mob of loonies with a different salesman!!
We’re looking for assurances Mr Dutton! So it’s time to start getting rid of the bedwetters in your party room and start making the right noises!
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Liberal and Labor. Both parties created the problem and both are still promoting the tranformation.
Solutions won’t be attained by either of these parties.
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Yes, all Dutton or his successor has to say is because our finances were decimated by Albo and his crowd, we are cutting all green subsidies, and stand back and watch the whole hoax collapse in on itself.
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The two great new excuses to allow governments like the UN and Australia to control your life are the Wuhan Flu and Climate Change.
Governments were to organize and defend, a service, a public service. Now from councils to Canberra, governments are controlling your life. No longer servants, they are your masters.
And with Labor in a minority government, the Greens are in charge.
They tell you want food to buy, what car to buy, what type of electricity to buy, where to live, how to live.
What you can dig out of the ground. Where. And to whom you can sell. And for how much.
So expect laws to ban petrol cars completely, diesel trucks and tractors, live sheep exports, live cattle exports,
coal exports, LNG exports, aircraft travel or even leaving your home without permission.
As for aborigines, we nearly had a new Constitutional government with a committee appointed by the Greens. Call it a Politburo.
While aborigines are rioting in Alice Springs, Albanese could not care less. It was never about aborigines.
Meanwhile we have stopped making cars. And today Albanese says we can all have Green jobs, like his.
No need for farming or mining or manufacture. Or agriculture beyond survival. Certainly no meat. Australia has plenty of insects.
Plus they will tell us what to buy from the cheapest suppliers. For example
Chinese windmills
Chinese solar panels
Chinese electric cars
Chinese computers
Chinese pharmaceuticals
and you can add to the list.
You could add a ban on coal and iron ore exports as well, except to China at a rate they will set, as before $75 a tonne where the world price was $400 a tonne.
And Albanese is now spruiking Made In Australia, Which is ridiculous. Manufacturing is the use of energy to make things. Like steel and cars. And with some of the world’s highest energy prices due to highway robbery, we cannot afford to make anything. And thanks to the 35% additional taxes on CO2 under the Safeguard Mechanism 2023, everyone will have left. The largest plastics manufacture just shut up shop and left. Chinese owned.
Soon we will be just a Chinese dependency. And Paul Keating as the Quisling of Australia has already planned a return to the lodge. There are plenty of empty apartments in China for Albanese and friends. Even with the doors welded shut.
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The Albanese government is getting involved in all manner of social issues, using the health argument. Your health, your mental health, your social health, the planet’s health. Gone are the days of customs, trade, defence, currency, the ONLY basis of Federation of otherwise independent States.
And the new National Labor laws with one job, one pay make it illegal to discriminate on the basis of say interest, diligence, competence, hard work. And race and gender flipped to make quotas of race and gender obligatory regardless again of merit or even interest. These are not areas in which the Australian government has ever had any right to legislate.
While China is run absolutely on merit, democratic Australia governments legislate incompetence. Which may explain why the door fell off the Boeing jet because not only did no one install any bolts on that door which blew out, no one checked. Apparently that factory is a major DEI place.
At what point did governments decide they would legislate on race? Gender? Competence. Even this week the head of the Queensland teacher’s union said testing students for competence was improper because it was stressful. Or perhaps it might reflect on the Union?
Governments at every level are now legislating things they have no right to legislate. The same in the US, which is why the Supreme Court overturned Roe vs Wade after 50 years of illegal operation. The Federal government had no such rights over the state legislatures.
And Nationalizing the electricity grid has moved all electrical power to Canberra. And aren’t they loving total control? Even courts in the US, NZ, Australia are now passing decisions based on things like the Paris Agreement, which has no legal force in Australia. So the courts are out of control too, as was seen in the Ridd decision.
We need somehow to seize control of our own governments. Hard to do though when the Liberals are anti coal, anti carbon and even the National party is against farming.
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Manufactoring industries are long dead in Australia and increasing energy prices will not attract an further investment.
Australian is a mining powerhouse – and luck for us if it were not Australia would be a broke third world country.
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At least he’ll save stacks of money by not having to produce lots of those “Made in Australia” stickers.
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The ‘Pandemic’, a fake political marketing term just like ‘Climate Change’, did nothing but wake us up from our Age of Aquarius, Star Trek Federation of Planets (UN) post WWII illusions …
destroying millions of lives in the process.
Turning ‘Science’ and ‘Public Health’ into terms of derision.
Human nature has reasserted itself.
The political and cultural history of Humanity is the movement from one Mass Hysteria to the next.
Political vampires feed on Crying Wolf narratives.
The content of the media is the running of wolf after wolf up the flag pole to see of anyone salutes. (Mixing metaphors again.)
Example from my half of the World:
POTUS Biden has spent three years declaring “White Supremacy” as the greatest threat to the nation.
Now that the election* approaches … crickets, because this Wolf Cry is not selling well.
*(Joe Biden will be reinstalled by the DS. A plausible narrative explaining how he ‘won’ must be constructed. Those that refuse to accept this plausible narrative will be declared outlaws.)
Be sure you’re taking your statins to prevent heart ‘disease’.
Don’t eat fat eat carbs … wait … no … don’t eat carbs eat fat.
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Just when you thought our esteemed Minister for Energy couldn’t possibly be any dumber …………
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TViEzHJrMcM&ab_channel=kaylaisabigNerd
https://minister.dcceew.gov.au/bowen/media-releases/fast-charging-ev-stations-ready-connect-nt-regions
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And just when you thought our esteemed Prime Minister couldn’t possibly be any dumber ……
One third of Australian households have solar panels
One per cent of panel made in Australia
Coal power station will become solar manufacturing hub
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13246513/Anthony-Albanese-1billion-solar-panels.html
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What about all those promised Green jobs in Morewell? These are the silliest of empty promises and the most dishonest PM in Australian history. The very idea that a government should ban the use of Coal is beyond science. CO2 is not pollution. All life on earth is made from CO2. The idea that it is a ‘toxic emission’ is a complete contradiction, but it is now enshrined in more laws out of Canberra.
I can only think they are doing China’s bidding. The presumption that politicians and public servants act in the interest of their electors is long dead.
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Slomo, minister for everything, his entire short stint as our liar in chief was lies, he could not open his mouth without exposing his forked tongue, and his deputy lizard is the same.
They have to lie to be elected, they just have to lie better than the other liar.
Dutton is an ex QLD cop from the era of the most corrupt cops in Australia, he has not become less corrupt while in government, he has become better at covering it up.
His nuclear lie will be stretched to the following election all the while throwing billions at his mates for study after study for no result, because there was never meant to be a result.
This Blog started as pro coal and the commenters the same, look at us now, we have been nudged into Nuclear, and we only need a CO2 alternative if CO2 is an issue. We have spent our entire lives on reliable coal, our capitalist gains have been due to cheap, reliable energy, we have no shortage of coal, yet we will now pray to the nuclear gods to save us from a problem that does not exist.
You know you’ve lost when the skeptics start pushing for the same thing as the liars.
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Are you aware of the advice to Parliament this week from Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Defence Richard Marles that the Albanese Labor Government has just put a down payment of billions of dollars for Small Modular Reactors from Rolls Royce UK for the RAN Nuclear Submarine building programme in South Australia?
When a mischief question was asked about guaranteeing the safety of RAN submarine personnel Minister Marles assured Parliament that SMRs are “sealed”.
Labor lies, they said no nuclear reactors here but ignored the ANSTO Lucas Heights nuclear reactor producing radio isotopes in a Sydney suburb, and that it is the replacement for the original installed early 1950s.
And that ANSTO apart from operating the nuclear reactor is a world leading nuclear and reactor research and development organisation, one of ANSTO’s more recent inventions is how to recycle uranium fuel rods in nuclear reactors for longer operating life and resulting in even lower depleted radiation level.
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Defence is a legitimate and original field of the Federal government. And this is supported by the states. The business of the Labor party of denying the use of nuclear energy though is a political statement, not a statement of fact. Nuclear energy is here to stay even if Australia and New Zealand political parties want no part of it. It has also prevented world war for the last 80 years. And that’s the point of a defence policy to prevent war. There is no more winning a war.
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Another $1 billion In subsidies?? Mr Dutton better get moving & telling us how subsidies will be killed off before the subsidies kill the whole country off.
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Dutton would be swept to power if he just had the strength to call Carbon Dioxide driven Climate Change out as complete crap. And get rid of ALL the illegal theft in our electricity rates and taxes and all those useless public servants in Clean Energy, Green Energy, Windmills and solar panels. The Don Quixote brigades. Humans have zero control over CO2. And CO2 has zero impact on the weather. It’s all fake science, Climatology. And makes Scientology seem real with General Zod and his DC8s and Thetans like John Travolta and Tom Cruise.
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That assumes a sound basis for democracy exists, i.e. an educated & informed electorate.
It also assumes that a candidate with “the strength to call Carbon Dioxide driven Climate Change out as complete crap”, would be permitted to be
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The question is not about cars. Or BLM,KGBTIQ.., DEU, ESG, Reparations, ..
The question is who gave the government to legislate anything they like? Which is why they wanted to change the Constitution. What they are doing is not legitimate!
We did not cede morality to our governments. Nor religion. Ethics. Power over carbon dioxide or pharmaceuticals or choice of cars.
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This latest subsidy is more than likely a demand from the ( gang) Greens.
Just seen a clip on Sky News of the CEO of the company receiving the subsidy. Very confident & chipper about the prospects for the future of the company.
I’d also be bloody confident & chipper knowing that I was to receive a $1 billion handout!
No such luck. I’M the one amongst many who’ll be paying more taxes to fund the subsidy.
This bunch of fools have got to be stopped!!
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Subsidies are theft. A Royal Comission into CO2 driven Climate Change is long overdue. Like the one into the Wuhan Flu. Even though the Chinese government has just forgiven us for asking if they knowingly and intentionally killed millions.
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Indeed TdeF. We cant trust our elected representatives to now represent us. Certainly none in the major political parties in Australia. We should have had a referendum on multiple issues that are WAY more important to the livelihood of the nation than a VOICE quasi- referendum. A major referendum on Energy policy was/ is needed. Similarly for public health policies in response to any future ” plandemics”. Where’s the referendum on climate change? I would like to have a say into the Misinformation Bill without having to submit something. Nuclear energy – the list goes on. Even why we now fly 3 flags? I was never asked about that. Some Canberra formed committee decided and to be quite honest, they stuffed up.
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Every party promised “there will not be a carbon tax in a government I lead” and they all lied. Even John Howard in 2001.
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Oh voters we’re in trouble …
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The fact that Bowen has been given shadow ministries when in Opposition, & now the full Ministry when in government, indicates the true catastrophe of Labor indebtedness to time servers & political devotees.
Bowen has nothing more than a very average intellect, and, unfortunately, a pomposity that inhibits his recognition of his limitations. He reminds me of the struggler in the classroom who thinks that he can impress by putting his hand up a lot in the classroom. Eyes roll from other students, but the eager beaver never seems to see them.
That he has been raised to ministerial level demonstrates why a Labor government can rarely be trusted with management of the economy.
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There are two elections in the air. The USA and the Australian Federal Election. Both look to be in the balance, especially with the side shows and dirty deeds departments we see at elections these days. Albanese seems to be particularly conscious of this. He is backing off more now when people in greater numbers are hitting him in the polls and against what his proposals are. He has been caught out with Wong returning funding to UNWRA only to be wrongsided by ‘Biden’a few days later. He has his folly of refusing a ship for the Red Sea as requested by the USA. He put Rudd as Ambassador to the USA and has now heard Trump’s assessment of Rudd.Albanese is in the pocket of Xi which will not go down well if Trump again makes POTUS and will certainly get a quick cancellation of those submarines – if ever they were a reality in prospect. Most of all, Trump could dump most of Biden’s destruction of the US economy via his climate change addiction. Trump still espouses wonderful fossil fuels to help power up the US economy (as they do China’s and India’s).
That all creates a huge problem for Albanese. If he goes hell for leather (as he seems to be indicating)on renewables and if Plibersek obeys Beasley and others demanding she refuses permits for Woodside to mine gas until 2070 on the NW Shelf, then by election time next year this country will be really on the skids at the very time the USA under Trump is flying. Already Australia is warned it will be facing a gas scarcity next year. Stock exchange record today! But Blackrock is pulling back on green investments so Albanese has a lot of thinking to do if he wants a chance of surviving.
This government is all about words and no action – except of the clandestine kind seen again yesterday when the Digital Identity Bill was rammed through the Senate with no debate allowed. Maybe Albanese will play the next 12 months with words, but little further action except on his other forte of socialising us to the extreme left and impoverishing the nation further.
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A digital identity card? Who went to an election with that proposal?
Who is making this stuff up? And who gave the government to right to police free speech, lock people in cities, hunt people down who posted on Facebook? This is the stuff of nightmares.
Canberra like the ABC is doing what it likes and making up laws which are just being legislated without debate.
In Scotland at the moment what you write on a blog can have you jailed or at least get a police record, a non crime but it goes against your employment record. Say insulting a gay person. Or suggesting men are men and women are women. That’s now officially hate speech and comes into law on 1st April 2024. An appropriate date.
We do not have a bill of rights. We do have a constitution which says what the Federal government can and cannot do. And this sort of thing is not approved. Which is what the VOICE was all about. Unfettered abitlity to do what the friends of Albanese say.
It is the end of democracy, politicians within the constitution doing the express will of the people.
They could have just legislated the VOICE. They still can. But they wanted absolute power under the guise of creating a politician appointed committee to control paraliament, the judiciary and the public service. A politburo, nothing less. And Albanese as the new Trotsky and Adam Bandt living his dream as his hero, Lenin.
A free Australia is being legislated out of existence by our betters in Canberra. And it is all illegal.
Telling you what car they will let you buy is symptomatic of what they feel they can do now. Unbridled power. Who said the government had such a right? Disguised as environmentalism, no less. Saving the planet as if there is some overwhelming emergency.
As I wrote, Climate Change and a Pandemic have institutionalized a State where laws are being passed which are not legal. And our right to even buy the car we want is being challenged. Soon we will be told what to think. Or be punished.
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I suspect any one of these laws taken to the High Court would be dismissed as unconstitutional. Nothing in the consitution protects the planet against Global Warming. And the UN is not anyone’s boss, legally. The power to sign any document to the contrary was not given by the states to Canberra. UN regulations have no power over us.
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How can the Government legislate a naturally occurring atmospheric gas?
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Remember it was that America and Western world hater and destroyer, Obama, that introduced the idea of calling CO2 a “pollutant”.
If you read the initial announcement (link below) you will see much the same BS as pronounced by the anti-Australian Government, including something that constantly confuses the Left, calling carbon dioxide “carbon” (sic).
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2015/08/03/fact-sheet-president-obama-announce-historic-carbon-pollution-standards
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It’s as much a political device as ‘the Russians are coming!’. That had thousands on the beach in Melbourne with shovels to fend off an allegedly imminent Russian invasion in 1865. Utterly fake scares like ‘Global Warming’ have kept politicians like Al Gore in power for decades. And who cares that it is patently absurd.
No official dares question the nonsense. Certainly not the department of the Chief Scientist or the BOM or the CSIRO, despite the flawed science and the failure of every prediction. Cowards and blatant career opportunists all. Stalin would have loved the quiet compliance of his minions with the Holomador which was not just one man’s evil intent but reliant on millions of compliant accomplices.
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I think a slightly better headline would have been:
“The Minister wants to limit your choices so you can get the car of your choice”
A slight variation on Henry Ford’s famous “You can have any colour you want, as long as it’s black”.
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The minister loves to be able to tell you what to buy, what to think and where he is going to spend your money. And your quiet compliance with his absurd agenda fighting the great fight against Climate Change. There is no King Cnut in Australia, ridiculing the idea that you can order the planet and bend nature to your will. If you are paid enough.
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Bowen is the quintessential “useful idiot”. I mean seriously, he is in a class of his own when it comes to just having zero critical thinking. I know most politicians are stupid, but Bowen takes to another level.
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The word useful is a gross exaggeration. Rarely has such enthusiastic incompetence been on display.
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“Their ABC’s” new ad?
“The News: Translated”
https://patriotpost.us/memes/105522-the-news-translated-2024-03-27
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I worked for the Immigration Department when Bowen was Minister, and I saw first hand of how he operates. Bowen is a lazy incompetent politician, who relies far too much on his “advisers” . The same thing is happening right now. Bowen once thought that giant lithium batteries PRODUCED electricity. No hope for the future while this man is free.
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Here in the US if you are poor and you want very reliable transportation, you will end up getting a motorcycle. Wouldn’t it be nice to be able to buy a brand new truck for $10,000? In other countries, you can do just that! It’s safer than a motorcycle and we should have that choice!!!
https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/a45752401/toyotas-10000-future-pickup-truck-is-basic-transportation-perfection/
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Bowen, in every photo, has the look of a rabid zealot.
And every time he opens his mouth, it’s apparent that he is both a rabid zealot, and he’s also unbelievably stupid.
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