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    🛁(Spirit of Jojothedogfacedboy)🚿🌡️🌬️☃️🏔️

    Aluminum…do,dee
    A doo…doo.
    Aluminum…da,da,da,da.
    Aluminum…do,dee.
    A doo…doo

    https://youtu.be/QTXyXuqfBLA?feature=shared

    Put your keys under an aluminum pot.
    That is was your using to block out the signals on your credit cards when put in the protected sleeves.

    Again…
    Aluminum, doo, dee
    A doo, doo
    Aluminum da,da,da,da.
    Aluminum.

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    TdeF

    U.N. Weather Agency Issues ‘Red Alert’ over Climate Crisis

    The U.N. weather agency warned Tuesday the climate crisis is “the defining challenge” of our age, urging immediate action to curb global warming.

    In its State of the Global Climate report, the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) said the year 2023 “broke every single climate indicator” and was “by far the warmest year on record.”

    You can only think they need money. It’s always about the money. And they have moved the reference year from 1880 to 1850 to get close to their warning.

    I would love to know what the actual problem was? And where? Australia just had a great summer. No drought. Lots of rain. And the dams are full in California too.

    And I note the UN are pushing the World Meteorological Agency, not their 34 year old political committee, the IPCC. Perhaps they think people are starting to doubt the IPCC and have more faith in the meteorologists who work for the same bosses? That’s weather marketing for you.

    What a year it was in 1988 when Al Gore in his first push at the US Presidencey along with the WMO and UN created the IPCC. And created rapid runaway tipping point Armageddon man made CO2 driven Global Warming/Climate Change. In one move they shifted the goal posts from reporting on the weather and cooperating on weather related disasters to actually being in charge of the all the climates across the planet. For a handsome fee of course.

    This new announcement of even more imminent disaster after 36 years means they need much more money to control the people in Western Democracies who control the weather. The rest are Climate ‘victims’ like China who would like climate reparations. And an apology for the European invention of cuckoo clocks and other hellish machinery.

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      TdeF

      And one presumes that the timing of the announcement indicates that senior UN Climate fund raisers are sick and tired of Ukraine and Israel/Gaza hogging all the news cycle and the donations. There may be no major world climate disasters at present, but they are coming soon. Beware and give generously.

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      CO2 Lover

      What comes after “Global Boiling”?

      27 July 2023 — Hottest July ever signals ‘era of global boiling has arrived’ says UN chief. Temperatures have hit record highs across the world in 2023.

      The highest temperature recorded in The People’s Republic of Victoriastan was 50.7oC recorded in January 1906 at Mildura.

      The warmest day in Victoria during 2023 was 40.5 °C on 17 February.

      What gives?

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        Peter C

        Whoops!
        Green thumb intended but I hit the red accidentally.

        Fire and Ice!
        Looks like we are heading toward Global Freezing.

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        CO2 Lover

        A substantial stratospheric cooling event is now being observed over the Southern Hemisphere following a massive injection of water vapor

        Strong cold anomalies are being detected in the stratosphere over Southern Hemisphere. The anomalous cooling results from the water vapor coming from the January Hunga Tonga eruption. Cooling on this scale has not been seen in modern satellite records, so this is a significant event.

        https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/cold-anomaly-stratosphere-polar-vortex-volcanic-cooling-winter-influence-fa/

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          el+gordo

          On the question of ozone depletion.

          ‘It is the fourth year in a row that the Southern Hemisphere’s ozone hole showed peculiar behaviour, despite the global success in banning ozone-depleting substances.

          ‘Researchers suggest the eruption of the Hunga Tonga – Hunga Ha’apai volcano in early 2022, that injected huge amounts of water vapour into the stratosphere, might have influenced the extent and intensity of ozone depletion in 2023.

          ‘Other specialists explain that a period of positive Southern Annular Mode could have delayed the “final stratospheric warming” that usually concludes the ozone hole, breaking up the polar vortex.’ (Copernicus)

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        Glenn

        What comes after Global boiling…after watching the Jug boil this morning I have it..Global steaming !

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      Honk R Smith

      “U.N. Weather Agency Issues ‘Red Alert’ over Climate Crisis”

      Red eh?
      That sounds like it could be a climate ‘Bloodbath’.
      Maybe even an Atmospheric River of Blood.
      Which would bath us all.
      In a Vortex.
      Especially marginalized populations of color.

      Our only hope is to put the UNIPCC in charge of everything.

      (Sorry, I was going through my daily list of End of the World alerts and I may have mixed my crisis metaphors again. Anyway … look! Aliens! … I mean AI! … and Trump!)

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    CO2 Lover

    Instead of buying more Chinese solar panels – why not get one or more Chinese Nuclear Reactors?

    That will run on Australian Uranium.

    July 14, 2023 – Pakistan held a groundbreaking ceremony Friday for what will be its largest civil nuclear power plant — constructed by China — that will contribute 1,200 megawatts of electricity daily to the national grid and is estimated to cost at least $3.5 billion.

    To be completed in seven years.

    The plant, known as Chashma-5, or C-5, will feature what China says is its domestically developed third-generation pressurized water nuclear technology, the Hualong One or HPR1000, with “advanced safety and foolproof security features.”

    Raja Ali Raza, the head of the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission, said the nuclear plant project will be completed by 2030.

    Analysts see China’s accelerated civil nuclear cooperation with Pakistan as part of efforts to globally find more lucrative buyers for its HPR1000 reactors developed by state-owned China National Nuclear Corporation or CNNC, the country’s second-largest nuclear power producer company.

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      Very interesting. Please keep these nuclear reports coming – it’s a hot topic now in The Australian, with articles about nuclear coming almost daily. An excellent one by Dr Ridd today about natural nuclear radiation.

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    Peter C

    my ELECTRIC CAR is now WORTHLESS EVen the DEALERSHIP doesn’t want it back! EVs are DISPOSABLE JUNK!!
    “I have owned my Porsche Taycan EV Electric Car now for just over 2 years. The purchase price was £120,000. I’ve had a few quotes over the last few months for it as I’d like to go back to a Petrol Car. Unfortunately I found out the hard way that Electric Vehicles are a disposable item and you WILL lose all your money and could end up in great financial difficulty. My EV is now so worthless EVen the dealership does not want it back”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77Yo4LpksWM

    Poor man.

    I will summarise his story to save you from watching his YouTube video.

    After a few problems recharging on longer distance trips McMaster decides that he is over evs and what he really wants is a petrol 911.

    He finds a nice second hand 911 at a Porsche dealer but there is a complication because his current Taycan is on a financial lease. Unfortunately he finds that its current value has dropped below the residual of the lease by £20000.

    So he thinks- well I will trade it a the dealer for the 911 and roll the £20000 into the new lease.
    Which might have worked. But the salesman at the dealership says er well , there is a new Taycan out with better range etc. Also we have several of your model Taycans in stock and we can’t move them, so we can’t accept your trade in.

    Salesman suggests he sell his car privately but that does not work either because he would then have to pay out the lease and he does not have £20000 ready cash. If he can’t get the value with a private sale he is even further under water.

    😢😢

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      TdeF

      Porsche is one of the few cars which has proven to be an actual investment, often selling above the original purchase price. And sometimes reaching amazing values with unusual models. People have had a double win and sometimes for decades. Until now. He has lost his entire £120,000 investment. But he could put it on the market for £60,000 and hope someone will buy it. If there’s not too much competition from others doing the same thing, like the dealers dumping their stock of new cars. The price could collapse completely.

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        TdeF

        And even then there are at least 4 types of charger. 7kW: home EV charger · 22kW: fast public charger · 50kW: rapid public charger · 350kW: ultra-rapid public charger. Who knows what the future will bring in charger cables.

        We have the same thing with ICE cars, diesel, standard, premium, super premium. Only diesel and petrol are incompatible. And the total number of petrol stations is rapidly decreasing and the government did not have to build them and we did not have to subsidize them. But you will need to get the right cable and plug combination to recharge your car. And that is only in a few years. Potentially your car could die before it wore out.

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        CO2 Lover

        An ICE Porsche Turbo

        The rise, fall, and resurgence of Porsche’s 911 Turbo (930)

        The 1975 Porsche 930 Carrera Turbo, the first 911 to carry that special T-word on its rump, has a reputation for being incredibly exciting to drive but also a bit of a handful.

        In 2010 you could get a 930 in excellent condition for a little more than $40,000. Shortly after that, the collector vehicle market went crazy—especially for Porsches and Ferraris. Homologation cars and “firsts” found themselves in the crosshairs of collectors around the world. By 2016, that same $42K 930 was now $235,000.

        $1.95 million, Mecum, 2015

        Documented as the last special-order Porsche ordered by Steve McQueen, Mecum’s sale of his 911 (930) Turbo prompted a great deal of interest from marque aficionados. Not only was its color—Slate Grey—a special shade, but the car was also built early in the 930 production run, before intercoolers were fitted.

        https://www.hagerty.com/media/market-trends/hagerty-insider/the-rise-fall-and-resurgence-of-the-porsche-911-turbo/
        https://www.hagerty.com/media/lists/the-10-most-valuable-steve-mcqueen-cars-sold-at-auction/

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      Yarpos

      Lucky he is making it up with youtube views

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    Graham Richards

    The Albozo circus in Canberra keeps on wasting valuable tax $$$$ on advertising that the Murray Darling river system needs sprucing up. Apparently the Albozo circus has realised that agriculture & much more will be in serious piles of “ doo doo “ should the Flannery theory of it never raining again ever transpire. So they’re looking for ways to keep the rivers flowing in times of drought.

    Just wondering if they’ve ever heard of dams. Similar to batteries which store electricity.
    Instead of wasting more tax $$$ on advertising which stores neither water, nor electricity.
    Clever arrangement’s these dams. Pity the Canberra circus are bereft of people that can see the advantage of building dams. After all their energy clown wants to build batteries which store electricity ! Hopefully one of the clowns will recognise a possible solution to the river system running dry!

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    Kalm Keith

    The big mash-up of politics, media blah blah and reality.

    In the car yesterday and flicking through the stations I heard a familiar voice speaking in parliament.

    Pauline Hansen talked about a visit to an original peoples location up north somewhere and the night time reality that was evident.

    Apparently there were lots of kids out on the street and the reason seems to be that they are getting out of their “homes” to avoid physical and s$xual abuse. The situation seems to be so obvious but the mainstream thrust for change is in the upper atmosphere where treaty and big grants are the focus.

    The thing that really got me was the description of these kids, some as young as four or five, huddling outside the school.

    Was there something about the school that gave them a sense of security?

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    CO2 Lover

    It’s good news week

    Australian renewable sector recorded ‘alarming’ slowdown in 2023, energy body finds

    Peter Hannam Wed 13 Mar 2024 01.00 AEDT

    Investments in renewable energy plants showed an “alarming” slowdown in 2023, with financial approvals for new solar farms shrinking more than a third while no new windfarms won backing, the Clean Energy Council said in its annual report.

    “There were no new financial commitments to utility-scale wind projects in 2023 (compared to six in 2022) – a disheartening situation that needs to be addressed,” the council said. The seven new solar projects with 912 megawatts of capacity last year was down from the 1.5GW in 10 solar farms in 2022.

    On a rolling 12-month average, investment in the December quarter sank to the lowest level since the council began gathering data in 2017, dipping below $1bn.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/03/20/aussie-renewable-investment-slumped-80-in-2023/

    “Doctors finding many ways … to keep us from the heat.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyE0NedXWpM

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      Graeme No.3

      That explains why the comments in The Australian light up with trolls like Troy and GuyM claiming that now was the time to buy more solar panels. It seems to have escaped them that Chinese solar panels have dropped in price by 50% recently, (and third largest producer Malaysia are cutting production) might be due to falling demand.

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      Yarpos

      Hannam’s distressed because we arent wasting money fast enough.

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    another ian

    FWIW – worth reading IMO

    John Roscam on

    ” Courage is in shorter supply than genius.
    What Konstantin Kisin gets right (and wrong) about Australia.”

    https://oneandfree.substack.com/p/courage-is-in-shorter-supply-than

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      Steve of Cornubia

      From the article: “It’s understandable why the centre-left and the ALP don’t want to talk about the Voice. The referendum revealed that when Australians are given the chance to express an opinion, they will reject the Marxist-inspired identity politics of the left. Australians do not want to be divided by race. The left (and the media who barracked so hard for it) have airbrushed the Voice from history.”

      That is so, so wrong. Anybody who thinks that, like Brexit in the UK, the battle has been won, is kidding themselves. The left NEVER gives up on any of its demands; they are only ‘postponed’. The same goes for the Australian Republic and renaming Australia Day. None of these battles are won because the left is relentless.

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    another ian

    FWIW – re covid school closures –

    “Now they tell us. Four years later. Getting the painful part over with, right up front, early in its article, the Times’ quoted its government-sanctioned expert who grudgingly admitted what is now painfully obvious to everyone. Everyone except government bureaucrats, that is:

    “There’s fairly good consensus that, in general, as a society, we probably kept kids out of school longer than we should have,” said Dr. Sean O’Leary, a pediatric infectious disease specialist who helped write guidance for the American Academy of Pediatrics, which recommended in June 2020 that schools reopen with safety measures in place.

    No duh, Sherlock. But O’Leary didn’t go far enough. It’s not about whether we kept kids out of school longer than we should have. Schools never should have closed, at all. In its article, the Times crept behind that obvious truth, wondering where was the balance — or, just how much harm to students can be justified by the political joys of “doing something?”

    Anyway, the article reported on a study, and it pretty fairly walked through the study’s awful conclusions. The longer a school was closed, the more students were harmed. Poor kids were harmed more than kids with resources and presumably, better educational options and more parental attention. Even where schools only closed a short time, loss of attainment, anxiety, and chronic absenteeism are statistically measurable.”

    More at

    https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/gratifying-wednesday-march-20-2024?r=1vxw0k&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

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    another ian

    FWIW –

    “The gender issue, explained”

    “When you put a potato in a microwave oven and punch the “pizza” button, and it is still a potato, it will help you understand how gender works.”

    https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2024/03/the-gender-issue-explained.html

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    MrGrimNasty

    More evidence longer term health consequences of flu are worse than covid.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13219393/long-covid-long-flu-infection-study.html

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “AI-generated nonsense is leaking into scientific journals

    Text outputs from large language models are littering paper mills—and even some peer-reviewed publications.”

    https://www.popsci.com/technology/ai-generated-text-scientific-journals/

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    another ian

    Not the Babylon Bee!

    “Illiterate Kids Will Go to School to Learn Nothing in Electric Buses
    The lowest literacy rates and the shiniest electric buses.”

    https://www.frontpagemag.com/illiterate-kids-will-go-to-school-to-learn-nothing-in-electric-buses/

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    John Connor II

    Humans Living in Cities Are Slowly Losing Their Ability to Digest Plants

    Western, industrialized diets are seriously lacking in fiber, and it may be fundamentally changing the way our guts digest tough plant matter.

    Even though fruit and vegetables are a key part of the human diet, scientists are just beginning to understand how our bodies break down the most abundant organic compound on Earth: cellulose, the tough material that lines the cell walls of plants.

    Now, a new study by an international team of researchers has discovered previously unknown microbes hiding in the human gut that are capable of breaking down cellulose.

    For decades, it was assumed that cellulose could not be broken down by the human body like it could be in the guts of cows, horses, sheep, or other mammals. Only in 2003 did scientists discover human gut bacteria that could digest these fibers, after all.

    Initial research shows that cellulose supplements, like plant fibers, can result in multiple and varied health benefits, including changes in gut microbes, immune responses, and gene expression.

    But this avenue of research as a whole is “rather unexplored”. While the associations appear promising, the underlying mechanisms are largely a mystery.

    https://www.sciencealert.com/humans-living-in-cities-are-slowly-losing-their-ability-to-digest-plants

    No farms = no fruit & veg. Just bugs…

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    John Connor II

    ENGINEERED FAMINE: Oregon starts SHUTTING DOWN small farms “to protect the people”

    Small farmers are under attack in the state of Oregon, which has begun shutting down family farms throughout the state en masse under the guise of water conservation and groundwater protection.

    Yanasa TV, a project of Yanasa Ama Ranch shared a roughly 20-minute video – you can watch it below – explaining what is going on in the Beaver State as bureaucrats erroneously dub small family farms as concentrated animal feeding operations, or CAFOs, in order to shut them down “for the environment.”

    “The state of Oregon has effectively shut down small farms and market gardens on a large scale, and they’re actually sending out cease-and-desist letters to farms and they’re using satellite technology to find their victims and send them these letters that say you can’t operate,” the rancher in the video below explains.

    Another thing Oregon farmers are having to deal with is the state’s rules on water. The only water that farmers are legally allowed to collect in Oregon is rainwater. Everything else, including water from rivers and streams, and even groundwater on private property, is considered a public resource.

    Because of this rule, Oregon farmers are not even allowed to use water from their own private wells to irrigate their crops and hydrate their animals without a permit. Coupled with the CAFO rule, this one concerning water use is being abused in such a way as to make it prohibitive, if not impossible, for farmers to run their farms.

    https://www.stationgossip.com/2024/03/engineered-famine-oregon-starts.html

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    John Connor II

    ANOTHER major global outage: Meta is DOWN: Facebook, Instagram and Messenger hit with worldwide outage leaving users unable to access accounts – 2 weeks after platforms were knocked offline by an ‘internal’ issue

    Meta’s Facebook, Instagram and Messenger are down worldwide, leaving user unable to scroll, post or contact friends.

    The outage appeared around 10:45am ET, hitting the US, the UK, parts of Europe and Asia – other nations have also been impacted.

    DownDetector, a site that monitors online disturbances, reported issues with the apps, websites and users accessing accounts.

    What has sparked the problem is not yet know, but comes 15 days since the social media platforms were knocked offline due to an internal issue.

    However, for all three more than 60 percent of reports noted the apps are not working properly – 67 percent for Facebook, 61 percent for Messenger and Instagram’s app sits at 66 percent.

    On Facebook, users are seeing notifications that their accounts have been suspended or their session has expired and are asked to login again.

    Messenger’s issues are showing users as being ‘unavailable to friends.’
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13219417/Meta-Facebook-Instagram-Messenger-outage.html

    Chinese hacker fat finger issue.😁

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    John Connor II

    The vast scale of Earth’s e-waste: 62 million tonnes of phones, TVs and vapes were discarded worldwide in 2022 – weighing the equivalent of 6,000 Eiffel Towers, report reveals

    From old iPhones to discarded vapes, a shocking new report warns that our old tech is creating unmanageable amounts of e-waste.

    The UN report reveals that, in 2022, the world created 62 million tonnes of e-waste – the equivalent weight of 6,000 Eiffel Towers.

    Worryingly, the world’s waste is increasing by 2.6 million tonnes each year and could hit as much as 82 million tonnes by 2030.

    What’s more, less than a quarter of that waste is recycled – despite containing billions of dollars of gold and rare minerals.

    Kees Baldé, lead author of the report, said: ‘No more than 1% of demand for essential rare earth elements is met by e-waste recycling. Simply put: Business as usual can’t continue.’

    In the future, the researchers suggest that solar panels could become one of the bigger contributors to e-waste.

    In 2022 only 600,000 tonnes of solar panels ended up as e-waste, but by 2030 this could grow to 2.4 million tonnes.

    Nikhil Seth, executive director for UNITAR (United Nations Institute for Training and Research), said: ‘Amidst the hopeful embrace of solar panels and electronic equipment to combat the climate crisis and drive digital progress, the emergence in e-waste requires urgent attention.’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13218177/waste-phones-tvs-gadgets-quantity.html

    Build back better eh…
    Reminds me of the great garbage pile in the film Idiocracy.😎

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    John Connor II

    AI scandal rocks academia as nearly 200 studies are found to have been partly generated by ChatGPT

    Academia was engulfed in scandal this week after research papers across dozens of academic journals were found to have been written by AI.

    An investigation found over 100 papers that were likely written, at least in part, by ChatGPT.

    These papers slipped through because of lax or nonexistent peer-review processes at for-profit journals, stoking wider fears that the body of human scientific knowledge is being rapidly infiltrated by low-quality computer-generated garbage.

    Many of these papers were published in obscure scientific journals, but news of this kind of scientific fraud hurts public trust in science, many scientists agree. Even before AI-generated text in scientific papers, so-called ‘paper mills’ have been pumping out low-quality and even plagiarized papers for years.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13211523/ChatGPT-scandal-AI-generated-scientific-papers.html

    All papers submitted must include a picture of Trump. That’ll fix ChatGPT!

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    RickWill

    This link takes you to the recently released “Climate -The Movie” from Clinteel:
    https://www.climatethemovie.net

    This is the most comprehensive review of Climate Change™ that I have seen.

    One of the takeaways here is that the scientists contributing no longer rely on academic funding. A few younger ones have walked away from careers in climate research because the felt a moral responsibility above their income.

    In due course I expect the pendulum to swing with massive force against the climate emergency and the related enriching of the government class.

    It is a good movie for anyone who doubts they are being scammed.

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    John Connor II

    Thursday woke wakeup: Another Boeing emergency: Delta Airlines 737 plane makes emergency landing after one of the engines caught fire moments after taking off in Aruba

    A Boeing-made Delta Airlines flight out of Aruba and bound for Atlanta was forced to turn back and make an emergency landing after an engine blow out on take-off.

    The Pilot of the Boeing 737 900 circled the Caribbean island four times before coming back into land following the ‘mechanical issue’.

    A spokesperson for the airline told DailyMail.com that there were 168 passengers on board in addition to four flight attendants and two pilots. The passengers were forced to spend an extra night in Aruba before being flown out on Wednesday.

    ‘Delta flight DL581 from Aruba to Atlanta experienced a mechanical issue shortly after takeoff. It landed safely and returned to the gate uneventfully,’ the spokesperson said.

    Another passenger said that they heard a ‘loud boom’ shortly into the flight.

    ‘It sounded like it happened right after the landing gear went up. I thought at first one side of the gear got stuck and went up late.’

    The passenger said that the captain came on the announce system to say that the left engine was on fire but that it was under control. After performing the necessary checks, the pilot made the decision to fly back to Aruba.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13218679/boeing-delta-airlines-emergency-landing-aruba.html

    Cause:
    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/I4J6f9ipCU0/hqdefault.jpg

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      Yarpos

      One turning and one burning as they say. Nice of Delta to give United a day off from Boeing incident news.

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    It’s probably been mentioned, but I just saw the Guardian saying NSW is having 5 lithium fires per week, this year. We are up to 65 as of last week! The Guardian! There might have been another one yesterday?
    At #19, Rick Will’s climate movie looks very good. It can be downloaded from vimeo.

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    ATTENTION Geoff Sherrington

    Geoff asked me a question yesterday, late in the day at an old Thread that few might revisit, so I’ll answer it here, but it is of interest. This is just an excerpt from his overall Comment, and I have bolded the bit I want to address here:

    I am most concerned about Aussie energy consumption dropping because of the large reduction of domestic manufacturing. A few days ago I started to list industries we no longer have or have been heavily reduced, but I got depressed and gave up.

    That actually was the case in fact.

    And here, I’ll only address the overall AEMO coverage. Total Energy consumption peaked in 2008. (Huh! The total Renewables portion of that overall total came in at 5.8%, and Hydro was 5.4%, so this was before the impact of wind and both versions of solar power) That total Energy consumption for that calendar year of 2008 was 207TWH. (207,000,000MWH)

    It fell away from that year onwards, mainly, as Geoff mentioned in his comment, the ‘flight’ of big manufacturing to somewhere maybe with perhaps a better, and more reliable access to the huge amounts of power that large scale manufacturing requires.

    It has only been in this last calendar year, 2023, that overall energy consumption has passed that total of 2008, and it has been rising slowly for the last three/four years.

    *****
    The nature of energy consumption has changed over the years.

    Early on, say up to the mid 60s early 70s, the Industrial sector was the largest consumer. As that sector required humungous amounts of energy, new power plants had to be constructed to supply that huge energy need.

    The by product of all that was that as all those new huge plants came on line, then energy consumption in the other two sectors (Commercial and Residential) also increased over the years to a point where the Industrial sector is now the smallest consumer, and that was the case even before the ‘flight’. That Residential sector is now the largest energy consumer. (the percentages are currently ‘around’ 40/38/20, with 2% in the small Transportation sector)
    *****

    So back to the top.

    That Residential sector now being the largest consumer, then with greater immigration, more homes, and more consumption in those homes, then the TOTAL overall energy consumption is ….. RISING, sort of like the opposite of what we have been exhorted to do over the years, reduce our personal power consumption.

    (Here, no matter what people nod their heads and say out loud, in the privacy of their own homes, they will consume EXACTLY what they want to consume)

    So, realistically, not in the pipe dreams of the renewables supporters, actual REAL power plants will be needed to actually deliver those increases in electrical power consumption.

    The electricity retailers can offer all the incentives they want, but as I said, people will consume whatever they want ….. WHEN they want it. From the very dawn of electricity coming on line, the PEAK power consumption has ALWAYS been between 5.30 PM and 7PM. That’s when people arrive home from work, ‘turn it ALL on’ and live their lives ….. HOW THEY WANT TO LIVE THEM, and that will NEVER change, so electricity consumption will always be highest at that time, incidentally, the time when renewables are at their lowest for the day. NO amounts of batteries will cover that evening Peak.

    And then in the middle of the day, you have the HVAC I mentioned in an earlier comment to Geoff’s. That HVAC electricity consumption will also NEVER change, as without it, any structure taller than three levels require HVAC or they become uninhabitable, be they residence (a tiny proportion) or those huge city skylines of workplaces.

    You will require electrical power generation sources actually capable of providing that.

    It has been the failure of Government. every level, every Part to construct replacement power plants for what actually CAN deliver that power for WHEN it is actually required.

    Renewables have been a convenient excuse to not construct those power plants. CO2 emissions have been used as an excuse also to not replace the now ancient old dinosaur clunkers that will soon cough up their last. Those REAL plants that actually CAN deliver that power are an enormous cost, and Governments need that money for left handed LGBTQIA+ surfboard shapers.

    Electricity consumption ….. IS increasing.

    Tony.

    (Here, where I use the term ….. energy, it relates to electricity consumption)

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      Tony, also from a previous thread ,…
      …. you were discussing ( reply to Rick Will) about the impact of RT solar on grid generation and how much “curtailment” of Wind and LS solar this has resulted in.
      The implication being that more storage (batteries) would be needed to overcome this “waste” of grid generation capacity or to enable its use later in peak periods.
      ..A quick estimate from the NEM.log suggest that currently ( yesterday) , SA and VIC alone between them had to “curtail” over 20 GWh of wind and solar generation. !
      That would be an awful lot more battery capacity (currently less than 2GWh ?) to install just to deal with the current situation,…and presumably an ever increasing capacity required as more commercial wind and solar is installed…..together with more RT solar coming on stream to agrevate the issue !
      Incidentally, it is obvious that even if the huge storage capacity of SN2 ever becomes available, it wont be able to adsorb even this current surplus as the rate of generation ( 3-4 GW) is way in excess of SN2’s planned input capacity of 2.0 GW max .

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    OldOzzie

    MUST-SEE VIDEO: Netanyahu concisely describes Israel’s accomplishments, goals, and commitment

    By Andrea Widburg

    Israel’s Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, is the un-Biden. He’s brilliant, articulate, a proven warrior on the battlefield, a proven leader in politics, and a passionate patriot who believes in his country, its people, and its values.

    The other day, Bibi gave a concise speech explaining why Israel must fight its war, how it’s fighting its war, what it has achieved, what it has yet to achieve, how it’s handling and will handle Gaza’s civilian population, and why anti-Israel news broadcast in America is false (and deliberately so). It was a masterful exposition.

    Here’s the video – 12 mins 29 secs. Don’t be put off by all the Hebrew writing. Bibi is speaking in English, a language in which he is completely fluent.

    I’ve also included a transcript at the end of this post:

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    OldOzzie

    The 10 greatest passenger planes of all time

    From the dashing Comet to the iconic jumbo jet, our fantasy league table of trailblazing aircraft should provoke plenty of travel nostalgia

    OK, I have flown on all 10 aircraft

    My favourite, 747 – flown all models 100,200,300,300 Combi,400 & 747 SP – aiming to fly 747-8 over the coming year

    then A380 & Concorde

    Only additions I would make is Boeing Stratocruiser

    and of course Douglas DC 3

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    John Connor II

    California police department shares photos of potential criminals with Lego pieces on their heads as new social media rules prevent law agencies from showing suspects faces online

    A California police department has raised eyebrows after replacing suspects’ faces with Lego heads.

    The Murrieta Police Department has taken to sharing hilariously edited images of alleged criminals on its Instagram, including some from the very moment they were placed in cuffs.

    In a post shared Monday, the department explained that a new California law from January 1 prohibits them from sharing suspect photos and mugshots for non-violent crimes – forcing their media team to get creative.

    But while the law passed at the start of the year, Murrieta PD has been covering suspects’ faces with everything from emojis to Shrek for several years as it prioritizes the presumption of innocence.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13217397/California-law-police-suspects-Lego-pieces.html

    Please stop. I can only laugh so much! 😆
    /We’re not going to make it are we.

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    John Connor II

    Thursday WTF. You can run (off with the meat) but you can’t hide.

    https://64.media.tumblr.com/b654fbacd698cc4236ceb20a450d091c/b81e0accc91c148c-d1/s1280x1920/5bfabe98287b19a251dd64417e96c105a3182c6b.jpg

    That was 2 years ago too! 😎

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    OldOzzie

    Can we get these People to build in Australia?

    Norway is undertaking an ambitious project to construct a 26km-long, subsea road tunnel, set to become the world’s deepest.

    Norway, renowned for its stunning fjords and dramatic landscapes, is set to embark on a groundbreaking project that will not only redefine its transportation infrastructure but also set a new global benchmark in engineering feats.

    The ambitious project, known as the Rogfast Subsea Tunnel, is poised to become the deepest road tunnel in the world when completed.

    With an estimated cost of £708million (AUD $1.37 Billion), the Rogfast Subsea Tunnel is a testament to Norway’s commitment to innovation and connectivity.

    One of the most formidable challenges faced by the project’s planners was devising a solution to traverse the vast expanse of a particularly imposing fjord.

    Conventional bridge-building methods proved impractical due to the fjord’s depth and geological complexities. In response, Norwegian engineers proposed an audacious solution:

    a subsea tunnel that will plunge nearly 1,300 feet beneath the surface, making it an unparalleled feat of engineering prowess.

    Construction of the Rogfast Subsea Tunnel has already began, marking the beginning of a transformative journey that is expected to end in 2033.

    The tunnel’s construction represents a remarkable fusion of innovation, technology, and environmental stewardship, with meticulous attention paid to minimising ecological impact and ensuring the safety and sustainability of the surrounding ecosystems.

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      OldOzzie

      Norway – The incredible £260m tunnel being built through European country just for huge ships

      It’s the world’s first ever tunnel solely for ships on a notoriously treacherous stretch of coastline.

      To create the Stad Ship Tunnel in Norway a mile of rock will need to be blasted through so commercial vessels can make a safe journey using the passage.

      The tunnel will stretch a mile long (1.61Km) and be nearly 150ft tall and 118ft wide.

      The Stadhavet sea – in particular Stad Peninsula – is notoriously dangerous. There are patches of rough sea that have claimed the lives of sailors and in 2019 a ship called the Viking Sky lost power and narrowly avoided disaster in the area.

      But thanks to the new tunnel commercial ships will no longer have to navigate the dangerous fjords. Diggers will remove about 7.5 million tonnes of blasted rock during construction.

      As well as the tunnel, the project includes plans for a pedestrian bridge to allow tourists to watch the huge ships use the tunnel.

      Heh My suggestion early 80s to Warringah Trabsport Inquiry was a Ferry tunnel from Primrose Park to Cremorne Park – about 1.3Km utilising existing potential Ferry Points in Upper Middle Harbour incluidng Spit, Clontarf & Balmpral Beach (would take away trip through Sydney Heads and could be done by existing Rivercats), and with existing road off Roseville Bridge with both ingress & egress, and an alternate transfer point from Northern Beaches to the City – with large flat area for parking and Terminus Ferry Wharf next to Davidson Park Boat Ramp

      Given Norway is blasting through Granite for AUD $500 Hundred Million, and in NSW we will have anumber of Tunnel Borers from Metro Train Project available and Sydney Sandstone lot easier to Tunnel Through – why not make more use of Sydney Waterways?

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      Yarpos

      Interesting stuff. I wonder what the plan is for a battery fire at the midpoint?

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      The job description brings back Spike Milligan’s commnt about “moving in the general direction of away”

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        Thoughts lead from there to this –

        Adapting a Lyndon Johnson to “bubbles” like the Canberra one –

        We are outside the bubble and pissing in. And there are more of us. Get to it and flood the bastards

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