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    Politicians: If Net Zero is Achievable, Why Not Give Us A Small-Scale Demonstration?
    By Dr. John Happs

    Dr John Happs
    Imagine a company that claimed to have a battery-powered airliner that would carry 200 passengers over a distance of several thousand kilometres. Imagine also that the government funnelled a few million taxpayer dollars into the development of such an aircraft, politicians and the public would demand a demonstration of its capabilities and safety before anyone boarded for a flight.

    By the same token, if anyone makes the claim that a constant, reliable, zero emissions electricity supply, based on wind and solar, is achievable, surely it’s essential that we verify this claim before rushing into such an expensive, untested nation-wide scheme.

    The claim was made in the 1950’s that nuclear energy was a viable source of reliable energy and a demonstration was quickly and successfully provided in Arco, Idaho when the city was powered by nuclear energy on July 17th, 1955. The Borax III reactor supplied the small town of Arco with nuclear power.

    The Arco success was followed by another nuclear power demonstration at Shippingport, near Pittsburgh, in 1957 when the plant was completed in just over 2 years. It was reported:

    “So, on December 18, 1957, after having operated the reactor and the plant’s steam systems on and off for about two weeks, it came to pass that the first full-scale atomic power station to be built in the United States was synchronized with and connected to the grid. At first, the plant was operated at just low power levels. It didn’t take long to complete some tests and reach full rated power on December 23, 1957, with the plant putting its full rated 60,000 kilowatts onto Duquesne’s commercial grid.”

    https://www.ans.org/news/article-2093/atoms-on-the-grid-shippingport-1957/

    Continue reading: https://papundits.wordpress.com/2024/09/02/politicians-if-net-zero-is-achievable-why-not-give-us-a-small-scale-demonstration/

    https://saltbushclub.com/2024/09/25/politicians-if-net-zero-is-achievable-why-not-give-us-a-small-scale-demonstration/

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      David Maddison

      Net Zero is achievable.

      Just look at any primitive, pre-industrial society.

      And that’s where Net Zero is taking us. Indeed, that is the ultimate plan of the Left/Elites. They have been opposed to the liberation of the common person ever since the Scientific and Industrial Revolutions, the Enlightenment and free market capitalism was allowed to flourish and liberate us from serfdom.

      Civilisation and ultimately freedom requires inexpensive, reliable energy and that generally requires coal, gas and oil. Even if electricity for domestic and most industrial use was produced from hydro or nuclear sources, transport still requires oil. And many industrial processes such as steel production require coal. Other industrial processes require fossil fuels as a cheap and reliable source of energy, e.g. cement production. Agriculture requires oil for machinery, chemicals, fertilisers etc..

      The uses of oil, gas and coal are innumerable and essential, as most people used to be taight in school before the Left dumbed-down the education system and started teaching about the supposed multitude of genders and climate catastrophism instead.

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        a happy little debunker

        If you look at pre-colonial Australia – it never, ever achieved ‘net zero’ by the same standards that are expecting ‘net zero’ today.
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        Let me explain …
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        The current standard for ‘net zero’ excludes all ‘natural’ methods of CO2 sequestration.
        Under such a standard every single fire that pre-colonial Australians set added to current CO2 levels and were not ‘net zero’.
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        If we use a different standard … ‘gross zero’ – then not only would pre-colonial Australia meet this standard – so to would all of colonial and post colonial Australia (as evidenced by the EU Geosciences Union’s deep dive into Australia’s 2015 emissions that found Australia absorbed far more CO2 than Australian’s emitted).

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      David Maddison

      Australia does have (sort of) a Nut Zero demonstrator or two.

      King Island and Flinders Island in Bass Strait.

      They are both in the Roaring Forties, and have plenty of sun.

      They both have solar, wind and Big Battery plantations and they both spend much of their time running on diesel generators.

      If it can’t work there, it can’t work anywhere.

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        It can only work in Blackout Bowen’s Dreamtime Fantasy World.

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        Forrest Gardener

        As always every time King Island is mentioned I pay a visit to the web site https://www.hydro.com.au/clean-energy/hybrid-energy-solutions/success-stories/king-island

        And as absolute proof of concept right now solar is producing 102% of power, diesel 0, and wind -19%.
        Yes you read that right -19%. The roaring forties clearly aren’t roaring today.

        So there you have it. Absolute proof fit to be broadcast tonight on their ABC.

        My only quibble, and it’s a tiny one is that total customer demand is said to be 1811kW and total output of the system is said to be 966kW. The difference is presumably nothing a few unicorn farts can’t handle.

        Seriously, fancy publishing a web site with such obviously faulty calculations.

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      Vladimir

      So, 18/12/1957 …
      We, Soviets, beat Americans by 3 years.
      As a schoolboy definitely remember celebrations of the Icebreaker Lenin maiden voyage. I had just googled it – in 1959.
      It was shown on the news before movies and hailed as “the first ever peaceful atomic ship” against American nuclear subs.
      Funny that from there I have learnt about those subs existence.

      Sorry, it was tongue in cheek note. The Obninsk, like everything in USSR, was constructed for military purpose and few MWh it produced just had to be disposed off.

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      Coming soon to a field near you – if the subsidies are there

      “World’s largest liquid air energy facility to be created in Ayrshire”

      https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24654329.worlds-largest-liquid-air-energy-facility-created-ayrshire/

      Other reports doubtless available …

      “The largest liquid air energy facility in the world is set to be created in Ayrshire after Highview Power announced it would develop its Hunterston project in Scotland. The plant at Hunterston power station near West Kilbride will deliver five times Scotland’s current operational battery storage capacity and is strategically placed in the grid transmission network to maximise the use of Scottish-produced renewable electricity.”
      “The 2.5GWh LAES plant at Hunterston will deliver enough power for 650,000 homes for 12.5 hours.”

      For reference – per the Wiki anyone can edit – the Dinorwig Pumped Hydro station ‘has a storage capacity of around 9.1 GWh (33 TJ).’

      Now, the nitty gritty: –
      “Highview Power has already successfully secured the developing rights for Hunterston, which is located on Peels Ports site in North Ayrshire and the plant will be built in two separate stages. The first will be the grid connection and works to provide grid stability services with the second being a full LAES build-out, with the planning process for the second phase starting now.”

      So … they’ve had a meeting and agreed … something.

      Nothing in the report about costs.
      Nor build time – after planning permission is agreed [if it is! Greenery is big in Scotland].
      Nor about efficiency.

      We do get treated to this –
      “Julian Leslie, Director of Strategic Energy Planning and Chief Engineer, NESO, said: “Technology such as Highview Power’s LDES proposals will quite simply unlock the power of renewable energy in our energy system, stabilise our grid system, and allow for the delivery of a 100% zero carbon electricity system. In our Holistic Transition Pathway, we have identified a 81GWh requirement for LDES by 2030 to decarbonise the grid and this announcement paves the way to realise this goal.””

      LDES, LAES whatever, if that’s the level of technical expertise, – but candles, generators, canned and bottled food and water – and can-openers.

      Ahhh – at the very end: –
      “There will be further details on the next phase of that in the coming months, with the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero’s recently announcing an investment support scheme will provide further momentum to technologies such as Highview Power’s helping to unlock investment and accelerate decarbonisation plans.” My Bold.

      Investment Support – aka subsidies, from the tax-payer [or the same people, but wearing their bill-payer hats].

      Auto, hoping not to have a Holistic Transition Pathway anywhere near my home!

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    And following on from that, if the ACT in Australia truly believes that they only have electricity generated by Renewables, then let’s see the proof/evidence. Run the place on only Renewables and no cheating by taking all the power from Snowy 1.0.

    Let’s see how the Clown Show goes with that. Should be FUN to watch.

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      Peter C

      No Way should they be allowed to take all their power from Snowy 1.0. That belongs to us, the people of NSW and Victoria.

      Let them have their own roof top solar ( which we paid for) and SA wind.

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      David Maddison

      ACT and its public serpents and politicians claim to run on 100% “renewables” via a dishonest accounting trick.

      If they really ran on unreliables they would not have or need power lines connecting to the national grid; only solar, wind and Big Battery plantations.

      There is no city, state or country anywhere that runs on 100% solar, wind and Big Battery unreliables. It’s not economically feasible.

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        John Connor II

        It seems that pollies are more renewable than energy.
        As one goes, more of the “Newscums” are waiting inline to fill the void.

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    william x

    We have Climate models, Media, UN, Academics, Govs telling us that in 100 years temps will be higher by 2 degrees and sea levels will drown the islands, cities inundated.
    That is what they predict in 36,525 days time.

    Brilliant..

    So I wonder,

    Our NSW fire services use the data supplied from our Australian Gov Met agency and their climate models,
    So why is it that we can only give you in NSW Australia, a 4 day in advance, predicted bushfire risk level?…

    Just 4 days notice … Thats all… Now that’s a worry to me … It’s a little less than the 36,525 days, in the future, that they can predict.
    https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/fire-information/fdr-and-tobans

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      As a person who can predict everything and get nothing right, I give you Tim Tam Flatulence –

      Professional climate alarmist Tim Flannery first became famous for his dud predictions after predicting cities such as Brisbane and Sydney were likely to run out of water very quickly because of man-made global warming.

      For instance, in 2007 he predicted:

      So even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and our river systems…

      But it was another dud Flannery prediction. Back came the flooding rains, filling dams – some to overflowing.

      Now a new dud Flannery prediction has emerged.

      Two years ago Flannery could not resist trying to exploit another weather event to preach his warmist faith -and once again did it on the ABC, no doubt knowing it would not question him on his dodgy record:

      Vanuatu has a long road of recovery ahead after the category-five [Cyclone Pan] struck the country on Friday night, killing 11 people and displacing thousands…

      Chief Councillor Professor Tim Flannery tells ABC NewsRadio’s Laura Tchilinguirian that the number of severe cyclones is predicted to increase as the warming affects the ocean surface.

      “Elements of the damage wreaked by that cyclone [in Vanuatu] are being influenced quite strongly by climate change,” he says.

      “Sadly we’re more likely to see them more frequently in the future.”

      This was already a ludicrous claim, given the fall in number of cyclones here and overseas over the past few decades.

      https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/tim-flannerys-latest-prediction-blown-away/news-story/c5837775b57d24ee731f9e67b8b7a017

      BTW, the BOM is not very good either. For $1 million a day the Australian Taxpayer deserves better.

      Give me $1 million a day and I will check the tea leaves in the cup and the life lines on both of my hands.

      In fact, give Jo the $1 million a day and let her rip.

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        Greg in NZ

        “… give Jo the $1 million [ ] and let her rip.”

        I’d vote for that – where do I send my ballot – who cares if I’m a foreign actor (hasn’t impeded all previous Actors Internationale / AI) and surely my voice counts?

        Talking of ‘weather’, the central South Pacific is showing signs of getting out of neutral and sliding into 1st gear: a bubble of mild low pressure (1006 hPa) has been sagging over the Society Islands the past few days, finally filling in and drifting away from Tahiti today. Meanwhile, just west of paradise, models have a decent looking eye of low pressure forming above the Fijian and Tongan archipelagos this coming weekend.

        Those of us in the wave-chasing community are getting animated over the prospect of a fairly decent swell arriving next week as the ‘low’ drifts south before peeling off eastwards. The likes of Flim-Flam and MannFred and Gerta and their fellow Doomsayers Of Green (DOG) however, could possibly might may see it as a sign of cyclone season starting 2 weeks earlier than its official calendar date, ie. 1 November.

        First Proto-Cyclone Two Weeks Early!
        Scientists Say 97% Human-Induced!
        Man-Gore-Pig Prophecy Comes True!
        Repent! Repent! Repent! Send Money!

        Similar to The Gore Effect bringing frigid snow to certain climate events, perchance The Saxe-Coburg-Gotha Windsor Effect brings tropical cyclones to the ‘peaceful’ Pacific? Tune in next week for the exciting episode of Wipley’s BaaaLeave It Or Nut!

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      RickWill

      It’s a little less than the 36,525 days, in the future, that they can predict.

      It’s a little less than the 36,525 days, in the future, that they can predict.

      Not only can they predict 2100.but have high confidence in that prediction.

      But they had high confidence in what would happen in 2100 in 2001, But it was changed in 2013 but still with high confidence that was then changed in 2023 but still high confidence.

      When are grown ups going tio realise they are being duped with fairy tales.

      On average, the surface is warming. But by far the most warming is occurring on top of Greenland in January. It used to be a blistering cold minus 35C. It is now up to a balmy MINUS 25C. This is the result of climate change that is simply to be expected as the peak sunlight shifts northward to warm the oceans of the NH that retain the heat through the winter that gets advected to land.

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    Making AI useful is a challenge.

    AI’s key role in science education — grade level search
    By David Wojick
    https://www.cfact.org/2024/10/15/ais-key-role-in-science-education-grade-level-search/

    Major highlights:
    “A fundamental change in K-12 science education has created a huge opportunity for large language models. Not today’s models but reasonable adaptations of them. Students now mostly do research investigations so they need to look a lot of stuff up, stuff they can understand. This is hard because today’s search engine cannot do grade level search, but LLM’s should be able to if properly designed.

    First a bit of background. What is taught in American public school science education from kindergarten through high school (K-12) is specified by what are called science standards. The standards say what topics will be taught at each grade level, as it is called. These levels are typically kindergarten, grades 1 through 5, plus middle and high school, making 8 levels.

    Standards used to be knowledge based, specifying in detail what basic scientific facts the student should learn. But over the last 10 years a new set of standards have taken over called the Next Generation Science Standards (NGSS). These standards are activity based so they instead specify investigations that the student must undertake. What they learn depends on what they find.”

    “Each of these tasks typically involves looking up a lot of stuff. But how does, say, a third grader find information on static electricity that is written at their grade level? Pretty much everything that a regular search on static electricity will return will assume a lot more knowledge than a typical third grader has. Here is where AI large language models could be a great help because each grade level is also a language level. AI can be trained to recognize and deliver material written at a given grade level.”

    “Grade levels are specific technical language communities. Students know the technical terms they have been taught but not the ones they have yet to be taught. Mind you we would like to do without political bias in searches and that is something the States might be able to insist on, as they have done pretty well with textbooks. There are roughly 50 million K-12 students in America which is a lot of potential users for an AI grade level search system. It would sure help them out under NGSS.”

    Lots more in the article including NGSS samples. Please share it.

    We need to make AI useful.

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      Robert Swan

      We need to make AI useful

      Who is “we”?

      The current excitement over AI is pure hype. The most impressive thing about it is how many (seemingly) smart people take it seriously.

      It *CAN* generate plausible text, or interesting pictures. It also generates garbage text and pictures. The program doesn’t distinguish. The intelligence that selects the good ones is *human*.

      Google search: I’ll find things that match your query and give them to you in order of “relevance”.
      ChatGPT search: I’ll generate a single answer to your query and leave you to work out whether or not it’s true.

      Rather than trying to make that “useful”, why not ditch the whole silly idea. What use is the ultimate answer, distilled down to “42”?

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      Eng_Ian

      AI and LLM’s.

      In my day we had teachers.

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        Kalm Keith

        More importantly there was a curriculum that did not include wokeism or any of its derivatives.

        Learning was based on reality and the obvious aim of creating a future that was safe and thoroughly grounded.

        All the current political class wants from education at every level now is “drones” that don’t think outside the UNIPCCC, WEF , EEU, WHO guidelines which have been thoroughly fact checked for compliance.

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      David Maddison

      I’d rather kids learn the traditional way with traditional teachers (not modern ones).

      It worked for generations up until the education system started to be dumbed-down from the early 1970’s onward.

      AI as it exists in its current form is not a substitute for traditional (pre-1970’s) real teachers and curricula.

      Properly ranked and classified search engine results without anti-science and woke Leftist biases built-in would be a useful learning supplement for children. It just needs an honest, impartial search engine.

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      Graeme4

      A question for you David. Would AI alone, without additional human input, been able to work out a solution to capturing the Space X booster? I rest my case.

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        No, it is just a text processor. But it could find stuff on static electricity written at the third grade level which is what I am talking about. The comments above sound like no one gets what I am talking about which is very simple, maybe that is the problem. All I hear are anti-AI axes being ground. No one is addressing what I am saying about grade level search. Not one comment is about this simple idea.

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          el+gordo

          Good thing I came late to class, this simple idea is excellent. AI can be utilised to fast track learning through simplification, so that nobody is left behind.

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    David Maddison

    I have often mentioned how the Government and their public serpents are lying about inflation.

    The official rate of 3.8% has no connection to reality. Anyone who does their own shopping or has a normal (non-Elite) income knows this.

    Even Australia’s neo-communist Government admits to a “cost of living crisis”. How could that be if they actually believed their very own inflation figures?

    An example I noticed just last night was the Coles brand of chocolate bars which suddenly jumped from $2.90 to $4.00. An increase of nearly 38%. I find such large jumps, not modest jumps, in prices are quite common.

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      Eng_Ian

      We need an independent body to actually declare a basket of goods and services and price it across multiple states and territories, urban and rural.

      Every month, that same basket of goods and services can be priced and the results published.

      Inflation is much more than 3.8% but only data can prove it.

      As a minimum, the government need to publish the exact basket that makes up their CPI calculations. We all need a laugh.

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        Greg in NZ

        Some independent robust/august body did just that recently, comparing half-a-dozen so called Commonwealth countries: England was the ‘cheapest’ while New Zealand the ‘most expensive’. No wonder people are leaving in their droves. Reminds me, I need to brush up on my basic Ind!an and Ch!nese languages.

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      Forrest Gardener

      $2.90 to $4.00. My local woolworths has done something similar with Tim Tams.

      Can’t wait for the “new lower price” or 25% off sticker to go on them.

      The big players have ways of punishing consumers when governments hold inquiries into their price gouging.

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      Stuart Jones

      Ah but they will be on “special” next week at $3.50

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    David Maddison

    Like all rich socialist Elites who don’t notice the cost of living crisis, Australia’s Prime Minister Albanese has just bought himself a new A$4.3 million home.

    And like all rich climate catastrophists, he’s rather partial to waterfront property. Just like Gates, Obama, Bob Brown, Flim Flammery, Kevin Rudd etc..

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-15/anthony-albanese-buys-central-coast-property/104472726

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      John F. Hultquist

      Make a list of the elevation above high tide for all of these folks. I think Berry’s is about 3 m (10ft) and not in danger of flooding for a few hundred years. Several I tried to find say “cliff top” or “ocean view.”
      I prefer “mountain view”, but to each — his/her them/their thee/thou ey/em/eirs and ze/zir/zirs — own.

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        ianl

        It’s not the higher tides of “rising sea levels” that are the danger for Elbow’s new Central Coast abode.

        Although the exact location of this house is not revealed in the MSM (I actually agree with that piece of censorship in that doxxing someone is quite nasty), the Google Earth photo of the house area supplied to the MSM tells a typical and common cliff top story.

        The cliffline comprises a typical sandstone/siltstone/shale Triassic sedimentary sequence (known for the area) with a level drop from top to wave-cut platform bottom of about 4-5m. This rock suite is typically strongly jointed with joint refraction through rock unit changes, wave-cut at the base by high tide or storm waves, and critically continually heavily weathered and eroded along the joints.

        Debris from blocks falling as they are split off along the joints by weathering/erosion can be easily seen as dumped piles on the base wave-cut platform, which the wave action has not fully removed as yet.

        The property next to Elbow’s has a cliffline top sharply eroded back from the line at Elbow’s property, so one can easily see the process is active. The clifftop line along its’ strike has a vegetation line clinging to rainwater collected in the joints – this vegetation is a good measure of rate of change since its’ growth varies along strike according to when the most recent block loss occurred. Elbow’s back fence line is about 4m upslope of the vegetation. Given the spacing between joints, only several more block losses may threaten that fence line.

        Not rising sea levels, oh ABC, but weathering/erosion debil debils. Just Stop Oil won’t stop that process.

        [Now one can see why Geoscience must be “decolonised” and censored.]

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          Eng_Ian

          If it’s got a vertical section of cliff, regardless of the height, then the erosion is active.

          Let’s hope his house doesn’t fall into the sea anytime soon. If it did, we’d have to pay for a new one. And I think he’s made/taken enough money from sources that are yet to be disclosed to us common people.

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          RickWill

          Although the exact location of this house is not revealed in the MSM

          The location is publicised. It is clifftops with about 200 degree ocean views.
          https://www.realestate.com.au/property/189-del-monte-pl-copacabana-nsw-2251/

          I doubt he will be Prime Minister this time next year.

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      Philip

      Not a good look. Makes me think of The Tall Poppy Syndrome. In America such a move may get you elected, but in Aus, well, quite the opposite.

      That move could be the end of Albo. How clueless is this guy? Why would he not see that? Why would he not say to his new little piece, “well, maybe we should wait until after the election, this won’t be a good look”. Well, I’d say part of the deal is such gifts.

      Is Albo more hopeless than Gillard? This is the question. On Albo’s side at least he hasn’t given us the NDIS, adding a cost bigger than the aged pension to the taxes.

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        RickWill

        Look at the backlash that Tony Abbott got for knighting the Duke. Surely Albo’s house purchase is a much greater sin.

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        el+gordo

        He sold his two bedroom house in Marrickville earlier this year and this new acquisition is his retirement home befitting a democratic socialist.

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      Gerasim

      It’s always fascinating to note that elite socialists always live in houses as large as they can possibly afford. And there is nothing that elite socialists enjoy more than elite socialising.

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        el+gordo

        There are elite socialist types like the Teals, but Albo is not of that ilk.

        Where do PMs retire to after the Lodge? Keating went from Bankstown to Potts Point.

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          Graeme No.3

          Keating was active in Sydney real estate while still Treasurer.
          Somehow he got wind of the new Capital Gains tax and invested 2 days before.

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            el+gordo

            Rumours of insider trading, not a good look.

            He was living in Elizabeth Bay and not Potts Point, which is the next suburb, but he took a great interest in giving those residents support in their battle to stop a monstrosity being built.

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    Dave in the States

    Censorship enforcement and Kamala:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/leo-hohmann-pentagon-issues-federal-directive-allowing-military/

    Pretty scary and it’s not even Halloween yet.

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    Penguinite

    Is Albo looking towards early retirement?

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/10/15/left-wing-australian-pm-anthony-albanese-kicks-off-affordable-housing-plan-buys-4-3-million-oceanfront-mansion/

    It looks like Kevin Rudd is?
    The Rudd manifesto: Ambassador warns of Xi’s mission to reshape global order

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      Mike Jonas

      re “Xi’s mission to reshape global order”. You could fall foul of the misinformation act for saying that. BTW, saying you quoted Kevin Rudd won’t get you off.

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    Philip

    Did y’all see this? Solar farm smashed in hurricane. My question is, what is a solar farm even doing in a hurricane zone? What woeful planning.

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/incredible-aftermath-of-how-milton-tornado-tore-through-solar-farm/ss-AA1sikum?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=7ac441c572a04b2bab6f2d2b633560ca&ei=18

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      TdeF

      There is nothing about windmills and solar panels which makes them more than very short term investments. By robbed taxpayers and electricity customers and boards of management and politicians who could not care less.

      Has the useless Snowy II passed $20Billion yet? Wouldn’t it have been cheaper and faster to build a nuclear power plant? Why are innumerate politicians deciding our future? And how does the President of the UN get away with saying the oceans are boiling without being subject to ridicule?

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        Eng_Ian

        ….subject to ridicule.

        In Vicdanistan, that’ll get you five years hard labour. Although it feels like they’ve been here a lot longer and the opposition are the same flavour.

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        Graeme No.3

        TdeF:
        “Why are innumerate politicians deciding our future?” locally, i.e. Adelaide the former leader of the Opposition who resigned and took an overseas holiday claiming that his party was disrupting any policies has since resigned from Parliament after the police charged him (with drug trafficking?) which he says he will defend. This lets his former, fairly safe seat into a by-election.
        The Liberal machine, faced with a possible backlash, have endorsed a candidate not a local, not a Party member (unless she has been very rapidly joined) and a Green until last week.
        The party managed to lose the last State election and was gone after one term, and since with various members deciding to leave because of disagreements with policies.

        Said party machine is headed up by Senator Birmingham, a prominent Liberal. That is the sort of people who think they will decide our future.

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    TdeF

    Excellent video of the Musk booster landing. You can see the chopsticks deployed from the top of the booster long before the catch. They act as air brakes, ensuring the tube is near vertical as well as arresting devices. Clever. But immense strength in the chopsticks backed by the flange.

    There was always the risk only two chopsticks caught but the catching arms may have been closing at the same time. Hovering 250 tons is amazing but I guess no greater force than stopping it in the first place. An amazing feat of rapid balancing feedback with immense forces, but all this was developed with the many leg based landings. Yes, rockets now land exactly as they were shown in 1950s science fiction movies.

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      KP

      At 1.09.17 sec in the top video you can see the small, solid pins it sits on to keep the rotatable arms of the waffle fins from taking any weight. The pins sit in rails on the mechazilla arms.

      Current pinnacle of human engineering!

      The Pentagon want it developed as a fast-reaction force transport to put soldiers anywhere in the world within an hour of any peasants getting rowdy…

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      Eng_Ian

      One of the most important lessons that had to be learnt in this process is that a free falling liquid fueled rocket cannot pump the fuel and oxidiser to the engine because the fuel if floating in the tank and may not be at the bottom, ready to be drawn into the pumps.

      The free falling rocket MUST decelerate, (with the bottom downward), to force the liquids to the bottom of the tanks. You need engines to do this. A catch 22 issue.

      Engines that don’t get a reliable liquid supply often surge, the central engine in Apollo 13 suffered this during launch, (not the cause of the major fault). It’s something that liquid fuel engines have to put up with. See ‘pogo effect’ for further reading.

      And of course, sitting on the pad, everything is good, accelerating upward, everything good. Restarting an engine with the fuel sloshing around…… lessons to be learnt.

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        Peter C

        Maybe that is what the waffle pads are for; air brakes!

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          Eng_Ian

          I’m betting they are exactly for that purpose.

          The risk is the fact that these air brakes only work in the denser part of the atmosphere, near the ground. It means that the rockets can’t be fired until the craft is getting real close to mimicking the whale and the bowl of petunias.

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    Peter C

    RIP Dr Jackie Stone

    Some here will remember the heroic efforts of Dr Jackie Stone, who practiced in Zimbabwe and almost single handed stopped the Covid pandemic there. She was an advocate for early treatment. There wasn’t a lot that she could do with the limited medical resources that she had but one drug she could prescribe was Ivermectin. So she used that with some success and them made a remarkable discovery. Some of her patients misunderstood her instructions and instead of taking their tablets over several days they took them all at once, in one large dose.
    Not only did they not die but they made a very rapid recovery. Jackie made this known and other doctors ,esp the FLCCC increased their recommended doses accordingly.

    Jackie was initially supported by the Zimbabwe Health minister but that was later withdrawn and then she was prosecuted by the Zimbabwe medical board and her medical licence was cancelled.

    In a recent interview Jackie talked about forces at work which are more powerful than Governments and impossible for ordinary people or even groups of people to resist. It was all too much.

    https://metatron.substack.com/p/a-eulogy-to-dr-jackie-stone

    Many thanks to MeAgain for putting me on to this substack site a few days ago,

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      Kalm Keith

      An extraordinary piece of work.

      The summary at the end has a few great insights that we must take seriously.
      The first paragraph gives the overview:

      “Finally, I not only mourn the death of the great hero, Dr Jackie Stone and many doctors like her, I also mourn the fact that we are living in an era when the world has lost its moral compass.”

      The world that was built on hope, hard work and goodwill has been taken from us.

      The question is how do we get it back.

      We remember the USA , once Great Britain, Europe and VicDanistan: all victims/ examples of this ugly controlling Wave.

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      David of Cooyal in Oz

      Thanks for letting us know.
      She was one of my heroines, but I don’t have adequate words to describe my disgust at the system which drove her to this end.

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      What can you say?? Bastards! Deal with it.
      Good ol’ Welcome Trust. They sent a representative to Harari in 2021(?), and she handed the Zimbabwe medical authorities, a brand new office building. The medical authorities immediately got on Jackie Stone’s case.

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      Paul Siebert

      Peter C, #11,
      ____Thank you for this heads up.
      Got me stalled a bit.
      ✊️✊️✊️✊️

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    David Maddison

    I was just researching alternative privacy-respecting web browsers and I got a message from Microsloth saying:

    There’s no need to download a new web browser.

    Microsoft recommends using Microsoft Edge for a fast, secure, and modern web experience that can help save you time and money.

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      Mike Jonas

      Like the bloke he told his wife he wouldn’t say anything personal near the computer in case Siri was listening. His wife laughed. He laughed. Siri laughed.

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      Eng_Ian

      In the good old days you could look into the cache files and see, (unencoded), everything that the web browser kept. You could of course delete these files and have some sense that you’ve cleared anything away that you wanted to remove from prying eyes.

      Well now the cache is encoded so that us plebs can’t see into it. I bet governments can. I don’t trust anything that ‘microsloth’ provide. It will turn on you whenever requested.

      The only problem is…. what’s better. Who knows who or what is listening or recording our activities throughout the day. You won’t know for sure until you face court charged with misinformation or similar. And who’s to say that something can’t be planted into your cache?

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        John Connor II

        In the good old days you could look into the cache files and see, (unencoded), everything that the web browser kept.

        In the bad old days that’s how one could save a streaming or embedded video – grab it from cache.

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      another ian

      DM

      Have you had a look at this one? Chiefio is road testing it –

      https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2024/10/12/using-yandex-browser/

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        Eng_Ian

        Yandex is Russian and very slow, not sure if it’s a translation on the way into the search engine or the route taken to get to the servers, (I doubt they have mirrors close to Oz).

        And of course you get different answers to google. So it’s always worth a delay if you’re looking for another angle to an MSM viewpoint.

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          John Connor II

          Must just be where you are.
          Yandex is fast, translates instantly and provides loads of results lefty search engines don’t, for me.

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    another ian

    FWIW – on the covid jab scene

    “”Skipping COVID Booster Could Reduce Your IQ”: Vax Propaganda Thrives At LA Times”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/skipping-covid-booster-could-reduce-your-iq-vax-propaganda-thrives-la-times

    More on that “could” in comments

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    david

    Johnny Rotten

    Canberra could run out of hydro power but will never run out water to drink. They have access to 5+ major dams for their water supply and a 10 year drought would not be a problem!

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “WHY It Is, In Fact Likely

    Civil unrest or even Civil War.”

    “Take careful account of the language. It is not his language, it is the language of FEMA and others in the government. The government believes they have a right to rule, which our Constitution explicitly disavows.”

    Much more at https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=252189

    Add recent developments –

    “Leo Hohmann: Pentagon Issues Federal Directive Allowing Military to use ‘Lethal Force’ Against Americans as Video Resurfaces Showing Kamala Fantasizing About Weaponizing DOJ Against U.S. Citizens”

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/leo-hohmann-pentagon-issues-federal-directive-allowing-military/

    (Bold as in original)

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      David Maddison

      Surely all of that is illegal in the USA?

      And this is exactly why the US has the Second Amendment. It’s a reset button for the Constitution. The following is from the US Declaration of Independence. It’s just as relevant now as it was 248 years ago. You can see why the Left want to remove the Second Amendment Rights of Americans.

      We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.-That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,-That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles sand organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

      But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.-Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.

      In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free People.

      Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

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      el+gordo

      The US is a Constitutional Republic and a democracy at the same time.

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      Stuart Jones

      didnt they lambast Trump for saying he would do this, called him a dictator for saying he would use the army to fight the enemy within.

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    John Connor II

    Vaxxed III – Authorised to kill

    https://rumble.com/v5hm7ga-vaxxed-3-authorized-to-kill-childrens-health-defense.html

    The full documentary for those interested.

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    John Connor II

    Why modern tomatoes are tasteless

    https://youtu.be/lXXX3OBAdY0?si=rB8Ms83giE8iB8lG

    I grow tomato berries (not cherries) and the flavour is just amazing compared to the cardboard stuff in shops.

    /warning: presenter wears a bow tie so sanity in question.

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      RickWill

      We have had a few strawberries growing for years but rarely had any to eat because the birds and snails would get them as soon as they had colour.

      Last year, my I set up a strawberry garden that my wife planted out and I have netted them off from birds and the snails are yet to find them. So there are quite a few and they ripen on the bush so lots of sweetness. There are some sweet strawberries in the shops but often they have as much flavour as cardboard.

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    TdeF

    On the first topic, Nett Zero, I find the whole thing science nonsense. Nett zero is some sort of politicians’ invention. It’s not a real thing. The whole living world is powered by CO2. 8 billion people alone output 3 tons of CO2 a year, just breathing. And in 1900 there were only 1 billion, no cars, no planes, no personal computers, no cloud farms, no solar panels. And the weather was fine.

    In 2000 we had all these things and the weather was fine.

    In 2024 the weather is fine.

    The odd hurricane which affects people living in tropical paradise.

    So a complete fantasy problem has a fantasy solution which cannot work and does not really make any sense. We humans do not control CO2.

    But in actual Australian legislation CO2 is declared legally dirty, toxic, industrial pollution (as opposed to Clean Energy). So breathing is also dirty, toxic. Farting. Termites and their methane. All life is offensive. Even death is taxed for methane.

    Tell the story of dirty CO2 to the trees and the fungi and the phytoplankton and the termites and the Wilderbeest and squirrels and penguins. All toxic life forms. Made from two molecules, H2O and CO2.

    And the punitive public solution makes no sense. Go back to the year 2000AD. When the weather was perfect. Who said?

    We are in a world of completely fake politician’s rules which only apply to Western democracies.

    And the oil vendors from UAE to Azerbijian are running the UN anti CO2 agenda on behalf of poorer countries who do not have the luxury resorts and hotels 100,000 rich attendees and the airports for the private planes. At least the protesters cannot afford the $10K to attend, which is great for the deals being done. Copenhagen and Glasgow were terrible mistakes.

    Doesn’t anyone smell a rat? A mischief of rats. And running it all, the President of the UN who says we are in the age of boiling oceans. And no one laughs? No one fact checks? Why not? 100F is the same as 100C, isn’t it?

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      TdeF

      What is needed is for someone to prove humans can control CO2, that it has never been possible to control CO2 in the history of the planet. Or even prove that 33% of atmospheric CO2 is from fossil fuels. Or that highly soluble CO2 stays in the air for ‘thousands of years’.

      I find it impossible to believe the Australia has a dozen punitive laws stealing cash from Australian citizens without having a carbon tax at all. And no one talks about it. The ‘safeguard mechanism’ and agricultural ‘carbon credits’ or Green certificates (LGCs,STCs) are never discussed in public. A cone of silence has descended over the whole subject while the billions disappear, administered by public servants who are paid to run the scams.

      Peter Dutton would be well advised to promise what Donald Trump promises. Elect me and electricity prices will halve immediately.

      It’s a bit like The Voice. Most Australians do not support being robbed by hidden and illegal government legislated theft. Which hits the poorest Australians the hardest as they can least afford high electricity costs. And there are lot more of them than inner city lefties, progressive company executives and teals.

      Get Canberra out of our power bills. And stop Snowy II tomorrow. With 40% losses, no one will pay to refill it.

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        TdeF

        I would add that anyone who calls out this evil fantasy is called a ‘denier’ and a ‘shill’ for the oil companies. When the oil companies are the ones running the show. Unless you think the 120,000 people who went to Dubai for a luxury business holiday week were protesters. There has never been a business as large as Climate Change.

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          KP

          “I find it impossible to believe the Australia has a dozen punitive laws stealing cash from Australian citizens without.. a Covid vaccination. And no one talks about it. The ‘safeguard mechanism’ and .. massive health damage done by vaccines are never discussed in public. A cone of silence has descended over the whole subject while the billions disappear, administered by public servants who are paid to run the scams.”

          Its a busy time for the public serpents these days..

          Yesterday I met an extremely attractive 20-something young lady spending the day in the workshop, she also builds race cars. First Pfizer gave her massive headaches, vision problems and eventually the medics found fluid on the brain. No-one said anything about the vaccine she’d had a week before the headaches started, just one of those things…

          So she had the second one later, and her heart started playing up a week after that. Then her systems began to shut down when her liver collapsed as the fluid built up. They treated all of that , 3momths in hospital, no reason for it, just one of those things.. Except one nurse said they were seeing a lot of cases like hers in people who had just had the vaccine..

          Needless to say she has her eyes open about vaccines, the medical profession, and politicians! I’m amazed she has recovered so well, the human body must be extremely hardy.

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        Chad

        ….And stop Snowy II tomorrow. With 40% losses, no one will pay to refill it.

        ???…

        The review explores that PHES is the most suitable technology for small autonomous island grids and massive energy storage, where the energy efficiency of PHES varies in practice between 70% and 80% with some claiming up to 87%.

        https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1364032115000106

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “‘National scandal’: Chris Bowen’s green energy agenda a ‘disgrace’ ”

    Andrew Bolt

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dfZuG7XtkU

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    another ian

    FWIW

    Musk courting trouble again –

    “Not many people these days know that the British Empire was the driving force behind ending the vast majority of global slavery. ”

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1846211256622968856

    https://instapundit.com/677969/#disqus_thread

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Monkeypox: Evidence Of The “Pandemic Preparedness” Lie”

    ““Pandemic Preparedness,” and the gain-of-function research that underlies it, operates under a grand deception, a big lie.”

    More at

    https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/monkeypox-evidence-pandemic-preparedness-lie

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      John Connor II

      I have access to a certain portal covering the planet so I see everything happening everywhere, which is why I can shoot down msm and govt bs about anything ahead of time because I see the trends and events developing days/weeks/months well before they’re even in the public consciousness.
      Bird flu – fear mongering.
      MP – fear mongering.

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    John Connor II

    Wednesday reality

    Trans kids are the new Gucci handbag for the upper middle class wine mums who need attention.

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    John Connor II

    Warning about your daily newspaper

    https://imgbox.com/XNfHZQCY

    Yup.

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    Skepticynic

    John Kerry 2009 – Arctic Ice Free By 2014

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3WR4_am-3Y

    38 second video courtesy of Tony Heller

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “‘Magic Bullets! Part Deux:’ The New York Times Doubles Down in X-ray Controversy”

    https://twitchy.com/aaronwalker/2024/10/15/new-york-times-trust-us-those-x-rays-of-magic-bullets-are-totally-real-guys-n2402207

    1 – Have a look at the test head shots that came out with the first Trump assassination done with the same cartridge – those bullets sure didn’t lie down neatly in the skull

    2 – the head of a kangaroo head shot with a 222 Remington (slightly less power) sure doesn’t look nice and neat like that

    3 – where are the grooves from the barrel rifling if that bullet was actually fired?

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    another ian

    Hey Jo

    Some of them are learning to BYOC (Bring Your Own Camera)!

    “House Speaker Mike Johnson Drops the Receipts After CBS News Selectively Edits His Interview on Biden-Harris Regime’s Botched Hurricane Response (VIDEO)”

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/house-speaker-mike-johnson-drops-receipts-after-cbs/

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    Strop

    Here’s one for our NZ readers. Regarding the recent Navy ship incident. (and a ferry from 60 years ago)
    20 sec Nick Rado video.

    https://www.facebook.com/share/r/MrfSLwECH63FDSbq/

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    Ireneusz Palmowski

    Current temperatures near the surface in southern Greenland.
    https://i.ibb.co/4prTLgW/ventusky-temperature-5cm-20241016t1200.jpg

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