Europe Wind power “sh*t situation”: Norway vows to cut cables, Sweden “furious” blames Germany

The german Windfarm Holtriem in lower saxony, June 2019

By Jo Nova

People forget that while electricity flows down those long interconnectors, sometimes high prices flow back the other way.

The Dunkelflute (wind drought) and a cold weather spell means electricity is at nosebleed prices. In southern Norway usually people pay €0.18 per KWh but the electricity price rose to over €1.12 per kilowatt hour for the highest cost hour last week. In southern Sweden the electricity used for a 10 minute shower cost €2.65 compared to €0.01 in central Sweden.

Montel Analytics forecast German wind output to drop to 2.8 gigawatts, compared to a normal capacity of 19 gigawatts at this time of year. The shift in weather has forced Germany to burn more fossil fuels, fire up coal power stations, and import energy from France…

In Germany consumer prices hit €936 per megawatt hour at one point last week because wind energy had failed.  This was the highest level in 18 years. Things were so bad, companies stopped production in Germany.

Due to record-high electricity prices in Germany, several companies, including some that have been in operation for over a century, have been forced to halt production. Currently, electricity prices have reached €936 per megawatt-hour, Azernews reports.

The Saxon Feralpi electric steelmaking plant in Riesa has completely ceased operations. Company executives, in a statement to Bild newspaper, expressed that the situation is dire and stressed the urgent need for power plants that can start operating in the near future to mitigate the crisis.

The steep rise in electricity prices is also expected to affect individual consumers, including one million families. The supplier company Tibber has warned of price hikes of up to 400% in a statement on social media platform X.

“It’s an absolutely sh*t situation,” said Norway’s energy minister

Norway is swimming in hydropower but still gets 10% of their electricity from wind power on the continent. Both ruling parties in Norway are promising to cut the interconnector deal with Denmark and the continent.

Norway aims to cut energy links with Europe due to soaring prices

“It’s an absolutely sh*t situation,” said Norway’s energy minister Terje Aasland cited by FT, reacting to electricity prices in the country that are six times that of the EU average these days.

The two ruling parties in Norway are pledging to campaign to cut the two power interconnectors that link the country with Denmark, when they come up for renewal in 2026, reports the FT. The smaller coalition party, the Center Party is eyeing revisiting similar energy links with the UK and Europe.

With current high Norwegian prices, critics argue Norway should only send electricity from its abundant hydropower abroad after it has ensured low prices at home, as was the case for decades previously.

High Voltage transmission lines Germany

The Swedish Minister is blaming the Germans for closing their nuclear plants

Swedish minister open to new measures to tackle energy crisis, blames German nuclear phase-out

Euractive Dec 13th, 2024

… Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson (Moderates, EPP) angered the opposition with his words: “There will be hard times ahead”. “I realise that nobody is happy when I say that ‘if we hadn’t shut down half of nuclear power, we wouldn’t have these problems’. But it’s true and it needs to be said.”, Kristersson said, referring to the previous Social Democrat-Greens coalition closing several nuclear reactors between 2019 and 2020 as part of a policy shift towards greater reliance on renewable energy sources.

Sweden’s Energy Minister Ebba Busch went further and blamed the Germans too (to be fair, both Sweden and German closed nuclear power plants in 2019, but Germany closed all their nuclear plants in April 2022).

“I’m furious with the Germans,” Busch told Swedish broadcaster SVT.

“They have made a decision for their country, which they have the right to make. But it has had very serious consequences,” she added.

When wind production in neighbouring Germany is low, Swedish electricity is exported to fill the gap, reducing the supply available to Swedish consumers and driving up prices.

Last year Sweden decided to build 10 new nuclear reactors. They still have three operating plants with six reactors.

At least one study calculated if Germany had just kept using nuclear power, it would have saved $600b and cut emissions by 73%. Those losses will only grow.

Photo: Mrb-Wind, lower Saxony, Germany.

Photo High voltage lines: Image by minka2507 from Pixabay

 

 

 

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63 comments to Europe Wind power “sh*t situation”: Norway vows to cut cables, Sweden “furious” blames Germany

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    Skepticynic

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    >…it’s an absolutely sh*t situation
    >…it has had very serious consequences
    >There will be hard times ahead

    Everything is going according to plan!

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      Tides of Mudgee

      Don’t the globalists need power too? or have they not thought their evil plan through. A lot of feet with holes shot in them maybe coming up. ToM

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      OldOzzie

      Whereas In Australia we have this Absolute Genius!

      Climate 200-backed Teal MP Zali Steggall claims base load power is ‘antiquated’, lashes out at Coalition’s nuclear energy plan

      A Climate 200-backed independent MP has claimed the concept of base load power is “antiquated” and “proving to be more and more a thing of the past” as she hit out at the Coalition’s nuclear energy plan.

      James Harrison Digital Reporter
      [SNIP]

      Base load power refers to a constant level of energy output which meets the minimum needs of the electrical grid and in Australia has traditionally come from coal-fired plants.

      The Coalition has put forward an energy plan that would see 38 per cent of energy provided by nuclear by 2050, with renewables making up 54 per cent of the mix while gas and storage would make up the rest.

      Teal MP Zali Steggall was asked about her thoughts on using gas as a form of base load power but decried the entire concept as archaic.

      “This idea that we need this base load is an antiquated idea as well,” Ms Steggall told Sky News on Sunday.
      [SNIP]

      [SNIP]

      Ms Steggall was also pressed on her thoughts about the 50-year extension of Woodside’s North West Shelf’s Karratha Gas Plant to 2070, which got the green light after a six-year wait for approval.

      The Teal MP said the decision to extend the plant’s life was “incredibly wrong and dangerous”.
      [SNIP]

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        Greg in NZ

        Keep “climate risk in check” (?)

        Whatever happened to c. change, c. crisis, c. calamity, c. cacophony, c. justice, and the original c. warming?

        Now it’s merely a “risk”? Did this Zali thing come down with the last shower? Talking of rain, how’s that southerly buster cool change treating you all…

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        Destroyer D69

        “We are now, with smart technology and appliances, able to meet the needs of the grid by turning on and off as required, on demand.” In other words”We Will Control what will be turned on or off at OUR, not Your, discretion”

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        Paul Siebert

        OldOzzie, #1.2,
        ____Zali is not entirely wrong. We are almost down to coffee machines and air conditioners.
        ____Baseload supply needs baseload demand needs baseload supply … fifty times a second, every second. ____Don’t get that from coffee and cake.

        ________________Didn’t say I like it.

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        Boambee John

        No baseload power, no 24 hour a day hospitals with working monitoring equipment, no refilling of water reservoirs means limited tap water, no pumps to move sewage to processing plants. Plenty of other things also stop.

        At a minimum, life returns to the 1950s. Calling Steggles an idiot is an insult to idiots.

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        Tel

        She’s an idiot but she does represent her electorate … before anyone argues, those guys voted for her!

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        Hivemind

        Steggle should be given the [snip]

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          Watersider

          Sorry for being ignorant of Stralian,but what is a teal?

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            Graeme No.3

            Refers to the political colour – i.e. supposedly representing as conservative but voting for the Green nonsense.
            It seems most (if not all) are well off financially and representing former Liberal seats.

            Its the fault of the Liberal Party who switched from being conservative to being the same as the Labor party except by the narrow margin of a bit of tissue paper.

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      Tarquin Wombat-Carruthers

      If you really, really, REALLY want to foot-shoot yourself, buy a howitzer!

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    Honk R Smith

    It is difficult and dangerous when a cultural begins to emerge from decades of mass hysteria.
    Especially when that hysteria has been manufactured by the elite managerial intelligentsia of said culture, for purpose of maintaining control as leadership legitimacy collapses from exposure of institutionalized corruption.

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    -Beowolf-

    Old sailor’s motto is working:

    “The wind is free. Everything else costs.”

    Germany: Say goodbye to the Energiewende.

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    Gerry, England

    Perhaps countries should return to running their own independent generating grids but of course having an EU-wide grid was all part of the push to create a European Superstate. this must have changed the previous relationship between Norway and Denmark where the Danes sent their excess wind generated electricity to Norway cheaply and then Norway extracted a high price when selling them hydropower when the wind failed.

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    Gerard Basten

    The focus on pool prices (or wholesale prices) is entirely nonsensical for all involved. The focus should be on contract prices, or contracts for differences between the parties. It is true that sustained high spot prices will lead to higher contracts for differences prices, but it is also a signal to increase generating capacity (supply). It means that the Swedes do not have enough capacity of their own if they are sending their own supplies to Germany at times of high pool prices there. They need to revise their contracts with Germany. They are greedy for high prices for their product at the expense of their own citizens.

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    David Maddison

    The situation with Norway is not unlike Australia.

    Australia is energy rich (but not wisdom rich) and exports vast amounts of coal, natural gas and uranium so others can have cheap energy while our own energy grid is being shut down and we have some of the world’s most expensive electricity when it used to be among the cheapest.

    Even worse than that, Australia is not even producing enough electricity to “keep the lights on”. If it were not for regular load shedding of large industrial consumers, at huge expense to taxpayers, the lights would go out regularly. But this is invisible to most domestic consumers and voters like Joe and Joanne Sixpack.

    Our road to energy self-destruction was started by the fake conservative and mental midget Howard of the fake conservative Liberal faction of the Uniparty when he banned nuclear power, allowed random wind and solar plantations to connect to the grid and gave away much of our natural gas supply to the Chicomms (among other things).

    It would be great if some Uniparty politicians had some knowledge of science and engineering but they are pathetically ignorant individuals.

    The situation is insane!

    https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/how-australia-blew-its-future-gas-supplies-20170928-gyqg0f.html

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      Ted1

      When Howard caved in to install the RET the news was that temperatures were riding a skyrocket, rising rapidly. After hitting a peak in 1998 that stopped. But there was some cause for alarm. It is not fair to lay all the blame on Howard for what the ETS has been since 2013.

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      Penguinite

      Very true but extra so for Tasmanians. We were more or less fully self sufficient with Hydro until Robert J Hawke came begging for Green votes to aid and abet his tilt for PM. Dam the Franklin dams quickly became his war cry. Whitlam, Fraser and Hawke cemented the deal to hobble us. Labor quickly further limited Australia by incorporating an anti nuclear stance in their constitution.

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        DOC

        Victoria is anti nuclear and antigas. Should be more fun to watch. BTW, our education system isn’t dumbed down for nothing and that’s the system that many of our politicians are coming from. Furthermore, in the Parliaments in Australia, any politician with a shred of science and or statistical mathematics has to sit down, shut up, follow the Party line or lose preselection. Even the Universities suffer from the same disease. It appears one goes to the university to learn the political, the ‘right’ way to think in science and graduate according to the opinion science of the lecturers if what we read is true. Then, having learned the ‘right’ way of thinking ie that seems to be ‘the absolute truth is the Globe is warming continuously and that is all due to man and his CO2 production with a bit of cattle methane and lecturer farts thrown in.’ If the graduate then wants a job one must hold that ‘truth’ in total belief. The idea that university students are educated in a course of learning what is ‘known ‘ and then advances knowledge by questioning and experimentation is now a delusion in any field that concerns climate.

        This is the totally immoral and antiscience basis of story of Human caused Global Warming. Politicians over committed right at the start. The fact that enforced ‘ignorance’ was taken up by the Western worldwide instantaneously, stinks to the high heavens. Oh for that story!

        Politicians are now trapped by their own excesses, both in enforcement of an unfounded theory and by the vote buying they have all engaged to an extent. Bowen is his own and the nationally driven
        wrecker. He knows history is going to crucify him hence he has to kill off nuclear power and continue his charade at the national expense just to save himself. His arguments are now being laughed at from every corner of business that’s not heavily involved and reliant on the subsidies.
        Each new pro nuclear voice compounds Bowen’s positional problems and encourages more to speak up.

        It wasn’t and isn’t just Howard. He was caught up in the noise at the time, but it was weakness to bar nuclear energy when even then it was clear nuclear energy was a solution to every complaint brought up by acivists. It was apparent from that rebuttal of nuclear that there was a lot more at play than some snotty nosed little activists game the world was continuously warming due to CO2 man made.But it is apparent most of our politicians loved the idea and saw the control and power that came with it. There seemed to be a sudden flurry wanting a job at the UN. imo

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    Henning Nielsen

    Norwegians pay very different prices for electricity. In the north, it is almost free. The southern part has prohibitive prices. Private homes do get a rebate from the state, but not businesses and leisure houses. Norway has traditionally used electricity for many more purposes than on the Continent, most importantly for heating, and that is the main reason why so many get hurt by being tied to the European power market. Production price for 1 kwh from hydroelectric plants is ca. 1 eurocent. People in Norway more and more feel that the government is working against them. The electric power should be used for the benefit of all.

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    David Maddison

    When President TRUMP liberates his country from anti-energy madness by cancelling the Paris Accords, I wonder how strongly Europeans will remain committed to their anti-energy policies?

    Meanwhile, I have absolutely no doubt that Australia will remain committed to their anti-energy policies, no matter which faction of the Uniparty is in power. In fact, I think they’ll get far worse.

    We have no TRUMP and no HOPE.

    And in China, the world’s largest CO2 (what the Left call “carbon” (sic)) emitter by far, and beloved by the Left, continues to build two coal power stations PER WEEK, each with a service life of 50 to 80 years. They are NOT temporary installations like wind and solar plantations. (Not that there’s anything wrong with CO2.)

    Remind me again why Australia is destroying its energy supply?

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      OldOzzie

      The Right Way for Trump to Ditch the Paris Agreement

      Donald Trump intends to leave the Paris Agreement on climate change again. He could do so in a way that benefits not only the U.S. but also the rest of the world and the climate.

      The Paris Agreement has foundered on fundamentals.

      Despite years of effort, global greenhouse-gas emissions continue to increase. Developed countries are falling short of their aggressive emission-reduction goals, and their economies can’t handle the costs and disruptions of rapid decarbonization. Developing countries are focused on securing a “green climate fund” of $1.3 trillion a year from the rich countries, as discussed at last month’s United Nations climate summit. Never mind that developed countries can’t even afford their own green efforts.

      Mr. Trump should highlight these failings and the absent evidence of a “climate emergency” as part of an explanation for the country’s exit from the agreement.

      Providing this rationale would create a moment for European countries to admit that the climate emperor has no clothes, giving them license to confront the awkward and obvious truths they’ve been avoiding for years.

      Renewed commitment to developing this technology could be the final element of Mr. Trump’s productive withdrawal. Creating affordable, reliable, emissions-lite energy technology is essential. Small modular fission reactors and better batteries are particularly promising.

      But we shouldn’t subsidize or mandate the deployment of immature or ineffective technologies—such as offshore wind farms, residential heat pumps and electric cars that nobody wants.

      Rather, Europe and the U.S. should follow Xi Jinping’s energy-transition plan for China: “Build the new before discarding the old.”

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        Gerry, England

        It has been suggested that the way to exit the Paris Agreement is to send it to the Senate as it should have been under Obummer but then he knew it would be rejected so insisted it was called an ‘agreement’ not a treaty. If the Senate rejects it then the issue is dead and god forbid a DemoTwat comes after the Great Donald, they can’t just opt back in as Dementia Joe did under presidential powers. The only downside is the RINOs still lurking in the ranks of senators.

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      John Galt III

      President Trump also has the smartest man in the world on his side – Elon Musk

      The Biden administration has sued Musk and harassed him for 4 years in multiple ways just like President Trump. Communists are so full of envy. That stuff ends totally on January 20th. Then Musk can use his talents in many ways to help our country.

      By the way, Obama said in 2008 all during the campaign that “We can’t drill our way out of this energy mess.” Take a guess how many barrels of oil America produced back in October 2008, the month before Obama was elected? If you guessed 3,974,000 barrels a day you hit the jackpot.

      2024 – America produced 13,204,000 barrels a day in September 2024 – the last reporting month. Crazy, huh? America is now the world’s largest natural gas producer and EXPORTER. Funny what technology, less regulation, free markets, less government interference and incentives do, isn’t it?

      Obama must be a German.

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      Penguinite

      With both France and Germany on the skids and a nucleus (excuse the pun) of smaller countries ready to defect to common sense it won’t take long

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      Will the last one leaving the building please turn off the lights …
      Oh, and don’t forget to turn off the computer.

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    When the wind goes away, umm, look the other way. (code for change the subject) Wind generation has the same problems all over, and what is happening across Europe is the same as what is happening here in Australia, so it’s not just what happens in one area, you know ….. “that’s not our problem here in Australia, is it?”

    I stopped commenting at pro renewables sites when I was told (in no uncertain terms) that Capacity Factor (CF) is not important.

    So, why is it important?

    It’s the only metric we have as a comparison to compare wind generation across time, and it’s the only indicator as to whether wind generation is improving as more and more better technology wind turbines come on line.

    As an example, take this last week here in Australia. Wind CF for the week was 15.87%, and that’s not just for a point in time, but for the WHOLE week.

    I’ve been keeping the data now for more than 6 years, and the CF for wind across a week has only been lower than that ….. ONCE, and it’s now 324 weeks.

    Across those years there have been many times when wind has had lower power generation across the week than for this past week, but all of those times, wind Nameplate was lower, and across those years, the Nameplate for wind is now closing in on triple what it was when I started.

    Here we have a whopping 13,460MW of wind Nameplate, and the average for a week is just 2136MW. It was supposed to replace large scale coal fired power. That Nameplate is equal to almost seven of those coal fired plants and all it can average for the last week is the same as for ONE of them.

    Most importantly, the gap between the full six year CF (29.8%) and the most recent 52 week yearly CF (26.4%) is now closing in on four percent and that gap is widening ever so slowly, and that’s the exact opposite of what we’re told, that newer tech wind will see a marked rise in CF. So, as newer tech plants do come on line, CF is …..FALLING.

    A CF for a whole week of just 15.87% is actually pitiful really, but hey, as I mentioned above, look the other way. Don’t even mention it. Say that it’s not important.

    Tony.

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      Neville

      Thanks again Tony but I’ve noticed that they’ve been slowly nudging up Aussies’ wind capacity factor.
      See here that Aussie wind capacity factor now supposed to be 32%. So what and how are they measuring it?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_by_country

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        Neville

        BTW Aussie’s capacity factor for solar is still listed at 15% but other countries like Spain are higher.
        And the USA, so how does that figure?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_by_country

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        I really have no idea where they actually are measuring it from.

        I mean, go to the OpenNEM site, which has been changed to reflect more things green. Anyway, I added two average weeks of power generation to the yearly total delivered power, (to make up for this full year 2024) and using that new total, I calculated the CF using their own information, and the CF came in at just 23.12%.

        My data is more correct, at 26.4% because as the new plants come on line I recalculate the data.

        How they can even claim 32% is beyond me.

        I mean, even at their own site, the ‘blurb’ for the Macarthur industrial wind plant claims 35% as the CF. Using their own data shown at the site, the lifetime CF since the plant opened is only 22.6%. That means the ‘wonderful’ 420MW plant only delivers an average total of 95MW ….. over 11 years.

        They’re probably relying on no one knowing how to work it out for themselves, and that would be the case all over. They’ll say whatever they want and that then becomes ‘the truth’.

        Tony.

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        Penguinite

        They are obviously measuring the hot air emanating from Canberra

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    GlenM

    The Swedes are building 10 new nuclear plants for a population of around 10 million people and Australia is building 7. Then again Sweden has a functioning industry and technological base.

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      David Maddison

      I thought Dutton’s plan waa to build six, not seven, but nevertheless, in Australia even if approval was given for reactors today, I can’t see them putting power into the grid in less than 15 to 20 years, by the time the feral unions, the Left, the Greens, there’s been lawfare, the Not in my Backyard syndrome has happened.

      Australia won’t be a viable country in 15 to 20 years as there won’t be much energy and it will be extremely expensive, more so than now.

      Don’t forget just a decision on a second Sydney international airport took 50 years and at the current rate of progress SH2 will also take decades to finish, if ever.

      And most Australians are delusional and really do believe we are still a “lucky country”. Donald Horne never meant that. He said it was an accident of our British origins, unearned and we were run by second rate people. Australians are certainly no longer “lucky” as they are gradually finding out.

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        Penguinite

        I doubt our viability will last more than five years. Dutton does not carry the party that is crippled by Turnbullites and the fact that most of the population have been conned and “invested” in solar. It wont be until the early installers realise that their SPs need replacing and supplemented with batteries will the “scales fall from their eyes” in about 10 years time will they repent!

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    Ross

    So, Denmark, now Sweden and Norway. Plus Germany. What do they all have in common? Green Politics. In Australia, we’re that stupid we now have 2 green like parties. Greens and Teals. Aren’t we the clever country?

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      David Maddison

      Aren’t we the clever country?

      It was Bob Hawke that invented that term.

      His vision was to pour money into education and research and billions was indeed spent.

      But it was all wasted because it was mis-spent on woke anti-scientific or anti-reality Leftist areas like “climate change”, “gender studies”, “queer theory” etc. rather than on areas like real science, engineering and scholarship more generally.

      Instead, we became the Stupid Country where children are taught to hate their heritage, think there are more than two genders, are terrified of a future of boiling oceans, don’t know any real history and can’t do basic mental arithmetic.

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    david

    Steggall and the ALP are brain dead. The LNP are half brain dead.
    Why does the LNP want to use nuclear and a bit of gas to back up renewables? They still don’t have the guts to admit it should be the other way round?

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      Leabrae

      The Liberals remain in thrall to CAGW. Even when calling for nuclear they still want to double renewables. Until they become accustomed to the reality that CAGW is a nonsense nothing can improve, nuclear regardless. I’ve seen no hint of how the Coalition will get the required legislation through the Senate. And no one, unfortunately, has suggested abolishing said house (frankly, it cannot come soon enough; strictly speaking, the lower house should have a significantly increased membership but the quality of candidate now is so low why bother). Energy poverty and national impotence are the only outlook.

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        DOC

        I think everyone is waiting for Trump to kill off the warming scam. He is killing off wokism fast, even before Jan 20. He will not have the USA destroyed by the left’s policies and he couldn’t care a rats about the msm, and neither can most people now. Today its reported Biden is trying to set up blocks on Trump to prevent him (doing a Biden a la the borders on day1) from destroying Biden’s ‘legacy’ on Climate Change’. If even half of Trump’s appointees get going, the USA will be a very different world in 4 years time. If so, that should embolden Australians to move right and follow suit.

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    Neville

    Again very simple sums proves that Labor and Bowen are dopes or con merchants.
    In 2022 Chinese co2 emissions were 11.35 billion tons and increased to 11.9 B ts in 2023 or an increase of 0.55 Bn Ts in just one year.
    But Australian co2 emissions in 2023 were just 0.383 bn Ts or about the same annual co2 emissions as the last 20+ years.
    Again China’s INCREASE from 2022 to 2023 is 1.6 times HIGHER than Australia’s TOTAL annual co2 emissions. IOW simple to find and simple to understand. So what’s the problem with Albo and B O Bowen?
    Here’s the link from OWI Data.

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co2-emissions-per-country?country=OWID_WRL~CHN~AUS

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    Neville

    Interesting that today China’s annual co2 emissions are higher than all of the wealthy OECD countries annual co2 emissions combined.
    How long before we wake up? And just look at the soaring NON OECD countries’ co2 emissions compared to the OECD.
    So why are we still paying for this total BS and fra-d?

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co2-emissions-per-country?country=OWID_WRL~CHN~AUS~Non-OECD+%28GCP%29~OECD+%28GCP%29

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    Given the wonderful job trees do you’d think that the NetZero mob would be planting heaps more. Instead, these environmental vandals are ripping up beautiful forest vistas and farmland and planting ugly artificial forests of wind turbines. This is already creating a hideous dystopian landscape which is going to get far worse. To NetZero I say Nyet Zero!

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    Gary S

    Yes, the greens are protesting in Tasmania’s central highlands as we speak. They want to stop logging of 154 ha. of native forest down there, but seem perfectly able to turn a blind eye to the destruction of 1000’s of hectares of equally native forest currently underway to permit the erection of thousands of turdbines along the ridgelines of the ranges in Queensland. ‘Some trees is more equal than others.’

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    warren raymond

    Industry, once destroyed, won’t come back.

    Knowhow, once exported, won’t come back.

    A demoralised people will not make a comeback either.

    Deindustrialisation is a form of high treason.

    It is sabotage & destruction of civilisation itself.

    The MF’s who engineered this should hang.

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      iwick

      Reindustralisation is a fools errand. The US economy of 100 years ago no longer exists and Neomercantalist policies will only result in higher costs for the consumer. As for Australia our economic complexity is on par with Uganda.

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        David of Cooyal in Oz

        Whichever way the world develops, if we don’t have world-competitively priced, retail power available 24/7 in all weathers, we’re stuffed.

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    Neville

    Here we can see Zoe Hilton of the CIS carry out the best hit job on B O Bowen’s mates at the CSIRO.
    Of course the CSIRO admit that they can’t release their data from their BS and fra-d report that is helping their Labor mates to win the 2025 election and deliberately hide the truth from the Aussie voters.
    This only takes a few minutes to watch but you’ll learn a lot about how your taxes are used to hide the truth from you before next year’s federal election.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsJXtVdY7Cc

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      Neville

      Again here’s Nick Cater’s coverage of Finland’s new Nuclear power stn and very safe and very cheap and a big price drop after it started to supply power to their grid.
      The cost was 9.6 billion Aussie $ and it would easily last past 2100 and has the highest capacity factor of 95%.
      It will last until 2100 and reliable cheap power 24/7/365 days every year.
      See the full cost from 3 minutes 10 seconds.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbeKtcTfMbY&t=20s

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    Neville

    Dr Adi Paterson is Australia’s best known Nuclear scientist and he tells Sky News that the Coalition’s Nuclear power plan is a game changer for Australia.
    A very sane scientist compared to the clueless B O Bowen loony.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Ue7cdpVRY

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