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    David Maddison

    Science fiction movie from 1967.

    Cyborg 2087.

    Free on YouTube at https://youtu.be/9vGu55liVMM

    Synopsis from Wikipedia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyborg_2087?wprov=sfla1

    In 2087, free thought is illegal and the population is controlled by governments. A small band of free thinkers sends Garth A7, a cyborg, back in time to 1966 to prevent Professor Sigmund Marx from revealing his new discovery. The discovery will eventually make mind control possible and create a tyranny in Garth’s time. He is pursued by two “Tracers” (also cyborgs) sent by the government to stop him.

    SEE LINKFORREST

    Seems somewhat familiar now.

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      Eng_Ian

      Seems somewhat familiar now.

      Naaah, we don’t have time travel.

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        John Connor II

        Naaah, we don’t have time travel.

        Of course we do – it’s just going forward. Duh.
        But of course you’d need a parallel time stream to avoid the time loop ping-pong conundrum.
        Anti-time will really mess with your head. 😉

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          Eng_Ian

          Of course, that one speed conveyor that all us mere mortals get to travel on. It’s travel but not the kind that you bother to write home about.

          I was actually thinking of traveling forward, backward, upward, downward, slantwise, everything that Willy Wonker would want.

          Now that’s something to write about, hell, you could even make movies about it.

          Can I get a grant to cover this development?

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            John Connor II

            Can I get a grant to cover this development?

            Of course you can!
            Just add the words “climate”, “DEI”, “equality” or “trans” in your application.

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    Ukraine the Largest Money Laundering Scam in Modern History

    “The pardon Biden gave his son identified these two cases and any offenses that Hunter Biden “committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from Jan. 1, 2014, through Dec. 1, 2024. However, reliable sources suggest that Hunter was involved with the bio-labs in Ukraine before 2014 to the extent that Putin wanted to discuss Hunter’s involvement with Papa Biden. You cannot accept money from a foreign government without registering as an agent of that government. Ukraine has been the largest money laundering scam in modern history.”

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/ukraine-the-largest-money-laundering-scam-in-modern-history/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

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    MeAgain

    Other carcinogenic viruses, such as herpes simplex virus, can also be activated during immune suppression associated with COVID-19 “vaccines.” One of the tumors associated with this latent virus is the deadly glioblastoma multiforme tumor, a highly aggressive brain tumor resistant to most conventional treatments. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10695344/

    Australian of the year Professor Scolyer, 57, was diagnosed with glioblastoma IDH wild-type in early June last year and became “patient zero” in a pioneering immunotherapy approach that has produced remarkable results.

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    Skepticynic

    Professor Ian Brighthope
    Dangers of the Vaccine, https://youtu.be/qaCc8NobSvk
    An Extract From “The Great Debate” 29/11/2024
    Is there still a chance for you?
    The Great Debate, Port Hedland vs The Premier, Perth, WA
    In response to the W.A. Premier Roger Cooks attacks on the Port Hedland Council motion: Exposing the misinformation and disinformation regarding the COVID-19 jab DNA contamination issue.
    featuring:
    Senator Malcolm Roberts
    Russell Broadbent MP
    Professor Gigi Foster
    Professor Ian Brighthope
    Julian Gillespie
    Katie Ashby-Koppens
    Rebekah Barnett

    Simian virus DNA sequence (a cancer-accelerator) now proven to be present in Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines:
    https://youtu.be/qaCc8NobSvk?si=rjb7jzF5ap6Zq6KW&t=1117

    https://osf.io/preprints/osf/mjc97
    In an exploratory analysis, we found preliminary evidence of a dose response relationship of the amount of DNA per dose and the frequency of serious adverse events (SAEs).
    Conclusion: These data demonstrate the presence of billions to hundreds of billions of DNA molecules per dose in these vaccines. Using fluorometry, all vaccines exceed the guidelines for residual DNA set by FDA and WHO of 10 ng/dose by 188 – 509-fold.
    Our findings extend existing concerns about vaccine safety and call into question the relevance of guidelines conceived before the introduction of efficient transfection using LNPs.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369967228_Sequencing_of_bivalent_Moderna_and_Pfizer_mRNA_vaccines_reveals_nanogram_to_microgram_quantities_of_expression_vector_dsDNA_per_dose

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      MeAgain

      https://blog.maryannedemasi.com/p/australian-government-will-not-suspend – “For a decision maker to make such a large impactful decision that would unduly worry Australians, the evidence relied upon must be legally, scientifically, and clinically sound.”

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      John Connor II

      Anthony Fauci called RFK Jr. a liar for stating that not one of the 72 vaccines mandated for children has ever been safety tested*.

      In response, RFK Jr. took legal action, and after a year of delays, Fauci’s lawyers conceded that RFK Jr. had been correct.

      “There’s no downstream liability, there’s no front-end safety testing… and there’s no marketing and advertising costs, because the federal government is ordering 78 million school kids to take that vaccine every year.”

      “What better product could you have? And so there was a gold rush to add all these new vaccines to the schedule… because if you get onto that schedule, it’s a billion dollars a year for your company.”

      “So we got all of these new vaccines, 72 shots, 16 vaccines… And that year, 1989, we saw an explosion in chronic disease in American children… ADHD, sleep disorders, language delays, ASD, autism, Tourette’s syndrome, ticks, narcolepsy.”

      “Autism went from one in 10,000 in my generation… to one in every 34 kids today.”

      https://x.com/wideawake_media/status/1861748409973026909

      There’s no money to be made in curing people, but a patient for life makes $$$$$$.

      But now we have the Fakevax ™ fiasco, duplicating and exceeding the vax crimes of the past.
      But wait, you also get the dna contamination and exosome shedding nightmare building right now.
      Anyone have a genome extrapolation algorithm and access to a supercomputer? 😎
      There are some thing money won’t buy a solution to. 😉

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    My ongoing critique of floating wind. We now have secondary entanglement and more broadly mooring line web harassment.

    The California offshore wind environmental impact statement is full of holes
    By David Wojick
    https://www.cfact.org/2024/12/02/the-california-offshore-wind-environmental-impact-statement-is-full-of-holes/

    Some key excerpts:
    “BOEM is taking comments on a draft Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement (PEIS) for its five floating wind offshore leases off the California coast. I am doing research prior to commenting and this is my first report which other commenters might find useful. The comment deadline is February 12 so the final EIS will be under the Trump Administration. This may make comments opposing the Program more important than they have been previously when they were mostly ignored.

    For the PEIS and how to comment see https://www.boem.gov/renewable-energy/state-activities/california-offshore-wind-programmatic-environmental-impact

    “The systematic harassment of large numbers of endangered and protected species of whales and other animals is not discussed. In fact the term “harassment” only occurs twice in the entire main report. Death due to noise harassment is one of the top adverse impacts of offshore wind.

    Moreover floating wind introduces a major non-acoustic form of harassment. This is the 3D web of potentially thousands of mooring cables each of which could be up to a mile long. We may be talking about hundreds of square miles of deep ocean literally filled with webs of cables. Harassment is defined as causing behavioral change on a protected animal’s part and these monstrous webs will certainly do that.

    The PEIS does briefly mention the threat of “secondary entanglement” in the nets, lines and other debris that are caught on the cables over time. The potential adverse effects of this deadly accumulation needs to be assessed in detail.”

    “Lastly there is an extensive economics section but no mention of cost. Development of these five leases will likely cost ratepayers and taxpayers tens of billions of dollars, possibly hundreds of billions, but these staggering sums are never quantified. Job creation is treated in detail as a benefit when jobs are in fact a cost.”

    More in the article. Please share it.

    Floating wind looks worse all the time.

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    Penguinite

    My angst today is aimed at the once great Commonwealth Bank of Australia privatised by John Howard then rebranded CBA. After recording humungous profits every year since they now want to levy a charge to withdraw your cash, that they have been using on the overnight currency exchange system to boost earnings even more, if you want to withdraw it. They also intend to levy an account keeping fee on the most popular account.

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    KP

    Well, CIA in Korea? Did the President not do what he was told and now undergoes a colour revolution? I wonder if the invasion force of 40,000 troops the Yanks have there are out on the streets making sure if all works correctly?

    North Korea gets the blame of course, the Yanks will double-down on them for sending troops to Ukraine, although interviews with Ukie troops in Kursk said they hadn’t a Korean anywhere.

    ““Through this state of emergency martial law, I will rebuild and protect the free Republic of Korea, which is falling into the abyss of national ruin. To this end, I will definitely eradicate the root causes of national ruin and the anti-state forces that have persistently engaged in malicious conduct.””

    That sounds like introducing tyranny to protect freedom, as all the politicians love to do!

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    OldOzzie

    Note to Kim: Aunty could learn a lot from Joe Rogan

    The ABC chairman might want to show more curiosity about the roaring media success of Joe Rogan. After all, Rogan represents another counterculture revolt against the tut-tutting self-righteousness at many of our institutions, including the ABC.

    Janet Albrechtsen Columnist

    The newish and urbane chairman of the ABC might want to show more curiosity about the roaring online media success of Joe Rogan.

    After all, Rogan and others like him represent another counterculture revolt against the tut-tutting self-righteousness at many of our institutions, including in the media – and most certainly at the ABC.

    Williams’s gut reaction to Rogan – describing his podcasts as “deeply repulsive” for preying on people’s vulnerabilities – explains in a nutshell why Rogan and others like him are media sensations.

    Williams appears to have completely missed this cultural shift. His default denunciation of Rogan was one heck of an own goal for him and the ABC. Why didn’t he try to at least fake some interest? Instead, many saw an uninquisitive new chairman reinforcing a lack of curiosity downstream at the public broadcaster.

    Normal programming at the ABC means a smorgasbord of ill-informed, unquestioning stories about bad men (toxic masculinity) and poor women (gender pay gaps). The $1bn-plus annual direct transfer from taxpayers to the ABC doesn’t stretch to employing a single contrarian journalist to question this constant diet of sanctimonious lectures at the ABC.

    The overpaid geniuses at the ABC could do worse than listen to a few Rogan podcasts.

    If Rogan is “appalling” – as Williams claims (though he says he’s not a listener)

    – put it down to an equal and opposite reaction to a puritanical decade that preceded Rogan’s rise to fame and fortune.

    The ABC’s business model of po-faced institutionalised taking of offence is dying.

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      OldOzzie

      From the Comments

      – What has four corners but only one side?

      – Just watch Insiders on a Sunday morning and you see what’s wrong with our ABC. Unfortunately you have to wait till February as the people involved in the show are totally exhausted and in need of revitalisation. Wish I had such a long break when I was working…

      – The big problem for the total LaborGreenTeal people is that if the ABC goes or at least gets back to a normal 50/50 non biased charter, they have nowhere else to go.

      Just like when Twitter was taken over by Musk.

      – I’ve given up on the Free to Air TV Channels. They will die away like in the USA.

      So many bad things by Labor/Greens/Teals that they are allowed to get away with.

      The ABC is just a (Taxpayer funded) propaganda unit for Labor/Greens/Teals and attack dog against the coalition.

      – The ABC, Australia’s most (un)trusted news source.

      – Great article again Janet. Joe Rogan is not an intellectual, who is? He must be one of the most knowledgable blokes on earth. He asks all the right questions, warts and all. He interviews anybody and everybody and the dialogue goes forever. Real conversations, straight talking with real people, most have been there done that, no matter what vocation. Highly recommended podcast.

      – The ABC. About as popular as a horse and cart in a lift.

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    YYY Guy

    I see the much under-reported umbrella crime has reared it’ ugly head –

    Violent afternoon crime spree suspect in custody, undergoing mental health assessment: Police
    A 42-year-old man was arrested by NT Police late yesterday afternoon following a violent crime spree across the Darwin northern suburbs, where he allegedly attempted to run people over with a car, threw rocks at others, assaulted at least one person with a baseball bat, chased a female jogger while armed and reportedly “threatened” motorists with an umbrella while driving erratically down Bagot Road.

    Lawyers rubbing their hands together on this one.

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    YYY Guy

    I’m not sure the phrase “army veteran” is being used appropriately by journos.
    I like this paragraph-

    Prominent local barrister Harvey Walters said the new bill still allowed for the judiciary to be flexible.
    “Yes there are harsh conditions here, but there is still the discretion for the judiciary to exercise different sentencing options,” he said.

    I’m sure he’ll work pro bono.

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    el+gordo

    President momentarily loses mind.

    ‘South Korea’s rightwing president has been forced to back down after he unexpectedly declared martial law only to face unanimous opposition from the national assembly, in the most serious challenge to the country’s democracy since the 1980s.’ (Guardian)

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    OldOzzie

    Return to old-school teaching sends NAPLAN results through roof – LIST OF TOP SCHOOLS

    An old-school teaching method known as explicit instruction has lifted student performance in this year’s NAPLAN tests of literacy and numeracy – SEE THE LIST of schools making a difference

    NATASHA BITA

    A Catholic school cluster has shot to success in this year’s NAPLAN results, after abandoning failed teaching fads through the nation’s biggest experiment in the science of learning.

    A return to the old-school teaching style of “direct instruction’’ has delivered academic dividends for 23,000 students at 56 Catholic schools in the ACT and Goulburn, based on the ­NAPLAN) results for 9629 schools to be made public on Wednesday.

    The Catholic schools make up 13 of the 20 schools flagged by the Australian Curriculum Assessment and Reporting Authority as “making a difference’’ in the ACT.

    Just a quarter of schools in the ACT are Catholic, yet they make up two-thirds of ACARA’s list of schools that out-performed others with a similar background of parental occupation and education.

    For years the Catholic schools had underperformed – until the Archdiocese of Canberra and Goulburn embraced direct instruction, also known as “explicit teaching’’, through the Catalyst project in 2020.

    Four years later, the schools have caught up to deliver their best-ever NAPLAN results.

    Mr Fox said teachers were saving five hours a week in lesson preparation because the Catalyst program provides high-quality lesson plans and “commonsense curriculum materials” used in all classrooms.

    The Catalyst program is based on the scientific concept of “cognitive load theory’’, to ensure new information is embedded in students’ long-term memory. Students are not overwhelmed with new information, and are given time to practise and repeat concepts until they’ve mastered them.

    Teachers direct and closely monitor students’ learning – a reversal of the failed fad of “student-directed learning’’ that expected students to “lead their own learning journey’’.

    Catalyst was designed by Knowledge Society, which is also working on explicit instruction techniques with 26 Catholic schools in the Geelong region, 51 schools in the Sandhurst Diocese in Victoria, and 20 public schools in Western Australia.

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      OldOzzie

      A revolution is now underway in our classrooms

      ELENA DOUGLAS

      The latest round of NAPLAN results released by the Australian Curriculum and Assessment Reporting Authority confirm that schools, in any postcode, that ­improve their curriculum and lessons, implement explicit teaching and an evidence-based approach to reading instruction can surge ahead in learning outcomes.

      The data couldn’t be clearer: regardless of socio-economic context, high-performing schools are nearly exclusively those that privilege evidence-based teaching and learning, including explicit instruction and a knowledge-rich curriculum.

      Take the achievement of the first program of its kind to lead the change to explicit instruction across a whole system: the Catalyst program. In 2019, the Catholic Archdiocese of Canberra Goulburn, under the leadership of Ross Fox, introduced an Australian-first program to support its teachers to implement explicit instruc­tion and evidence-based reading in every classroom in every school.

      Catalyst was implemented in 56 schools across NSW and the ACT and has involved significant investment in professional learning of teachers and leaders over five years.

      It’s a natural experiment because the government system did not change its practice and the Catholic and state system in the ACT have very similar demographics. The performance of the Catholic schools in the ACT can be compared with those of the ACT government, which made no practice change at the time.

      After five years of committed change, the results are in. So, what happened? The data released by ACARA this week shows 13 out of the top 20 performing schools in the ACT are Catholic schools. Given that the Catholic system ­accounts for 20 per cent of ACT schools, having 65 per cent of the top performing schools represents a clear demonstration that the Catalyst program has delivered ­results.

      Catalyst has been high profile enough to be copied and emulated. The resources developed for it are available publicly and have been shared widely. It is a rolling revolution, now bearing fruits in better learning outcomes.

      Noel Pearson, long-time advocate for evidence-based reading instruction and explicit teaching, said it was the “best thing that has happened in Australian education in 20 years”.

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        OldOzzie

        Nostalgia – as one who did Latin up to 4th year High School, sat for Intermediate Certificate Latin but dropped for Leaving Certificate, as too many subjects & did French instead

        The Ongoing Decline of Languages and Literature

        Part 1, by Jane Petkovic

        My mother was a born teacher. Educated at the academically-selective Sydney Girls’ High School, she matriculated to the University of Sydney. After graduating with a bachelor’s degree in Latin and Ancient History (1953) and a post-graduate Diploma in Education (1954), she began an uninterrupted teaching career in New South Wales state high schools which lasted until her retirement in 1991.

        My mother also had a historian’s heart. This meant the labelling and long-term retention of a large number of documents. Amongst these were some Latin public examination papers for the Intermediate Certificate, which students took after three years of high school instruction, and the more demanding Leaving Certificate, taken by a smaller cohort two years later. These were the public exams that pre-dated the School Certificate and the Higher School Certificate, established by 1966 in New South Wales.

        Looking through those early exam papers, together with some of my mother’s teaching notes, and then-current Latin textbooks, I have been wondering how high school education has fared since.

        How does the current academic content of high school subjects and public exams compare with what went before?

        This last question some would find provocative.

        It assumes that the chief purpose of education is academic—understood broadly—and that the public examination papers provide a sound and readily-available means of making comparisons, and drawing conclusions from them.

        The very notion of academic educational content has attracted increasing criticism since the 1960s.

        The educational establishment largely abandoned the idea of an intellectual cultural deposit that teachers should pass on. The logical outcome of this was seen around 1971, when state departments of education ceased to provide syllabuses. Schools had to devise their own curricula, and textbooks fell out of favour. Teachers therefore had no reliable fall-back to facilitate lesson-planning and classroom exercises.

        Every lesson became unrealistically burdensome.

        As went the content, so went the structure of staged progression, of providing and then building upon foundational skills and knowledge. Perhaps it is no coincidence that by the latter part of the twentieth century, education departments struggled to attract and retain teachers with moderately sound competency, not to say, interest, in their teaching subject.

        This may seem counter-intuitive, as by 1991, all teacher training in New South Wales was delivered by universities.

        Teacher training became less an apprenticeship when put in the hands of educational instructors more theoretically interested in teaching than practically experienced in it.

        New South Wales government figures for 2022 show that a slim 7 per cent of the HSC candidature studied a language other than English. By comparison, in the 1979 School Certificate, 11 per cent of candidates sat French, and a tiny 1 per cent sat Latin.

        In my mother’s first year of teaching, 1955, over a third of the Intermediate Certificate candidature sat French, and nearly 13 per cent sat Latin.

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          Stanley

          All right then, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
          But seriously, I enjoyed the four years of compulsory Latin at Unley High School which was bolstered by J P Giles, the co-author of the Latin textbook that every SA student was compelled to use. He had a pass threshold of 97%! Failing students quivered when his beady eyes settled on their forehead as he drew a chalk cross and said “why don’t you know your work, you neuter-ninny. “ JPG honed his skills as a teacher by interrogating WW2 Japanese POWs.

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            Chad

            I enjoyed the four years of compulsory Latin at Unley High School

            You may well have enjoyed it, but what else did you miss out on learning during that 4 year period ?
            Learning Japanese, Chinese, Russian, German, etc,….?
            Or these days a Computer coding language ?

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              Robert Swan

              Chad,

              what else did you miss out on learning during that 4 year period

              It isn’t a zero-sum game. Learning *more* often equips you to learn more still.

              As for learning a “Computer coding language”, that’s not a role for schools (or universities) in my book. Programming’s pretty easy to learn if you want to. What might inspire more kids to *want* to is if they were taught exactly how a computer works. That’s simple enough that even quite a few teachers could understand it.

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                Chad

                There are only a finite number of hours in a teaching year, and whilst some pupils may well get inspired enough to self learn beyond those limits, you will agree that a competant teacher is much more effective for correct understanding and direction of learning.
                Any time spent on “fringe” subjects such as latin, could be much better utilised on more life relavent subjects..

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                Annie

                I did Latin for four years and wasn’t much good at it, with an uninspring teacher. However, I have still felt it relevant to my life. It has helped me with understanding modern languages and the derivation of words. I later learnt a smattering of Greek, in its various ‘editions’, including the Greek Cypriot. That also helped with understanding words, including many modern hybrid ones.

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      Graham Richards

      You can bet all your assets that the MSM will rally together to avoid making this news public or being involved in any debate on the subject.

      Can’t have students being inquisitive now! That leads to all sorts of narrative non compliance!!

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      Penguinite

      We now need the rush of sxxt to the brain over global warming and solar/wind

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    Geoff Sherrington

    Here is the UAH satellite monthly temperature data updated to include November just ended. I show it here as the “pause” popularised by Viscount Monckton.
    The 17 months of present pause might lengthen rapidly if the temperature continues to fall, bringing in more months from earlier years, sometimes a few months at a time, as well as more recent months as they happen one at at time.
    The shape of the recent high peak is more muted than that of the globe as a whole. North Polar warming numbers suggest the reason, as they are not being reflected in the South polar region. I cannot see much effect from the volcanic episode at Hunga Tonga, but that is a matter of personal subjectivity and I could be wrong. More and more it seems that these atmospheric temperatures are caused by ocean temperature variations, namely whether hot pools or cold pools of water dominate the surface pattern. Dr Bill Kininmonth, a senior scientist of the BOM, explained this years ago, as Jo reminds us now and then.
    Those who favour CO2 as the control knob for global temperatures require a better explanation of why the warming that CO2 is supposed to control quite often becomes no warming or cooling.
    When you put a saucepan on your cook top, you expect it to heat your food at a steady rate with no cooling intervals. What interrupts alleged CO2 warming to allow cooling to happen?
    Geoff S
    https://www.geoffstuff.com/uahdec2024.jpg

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      Strop

      Thanks for the chart.

      Dec 2022 had no linear warming trend for 10 years 5 months.
      https://www.geoffstuff.com/uahdec2022.jpg

      Dec 2023 had no linear warming trend for 11 years 3 months.
      https://www.geoffstuff.com/uahdec2023.jpg

      and Dec 2024 chart has no positive warming trend over last 17 months
      https://www.geoffstuff.com/uahdec2024.jpg

      .

      Does that mean we don’t have a warming trend over Australia for over 12 years?
      Do you have a chart of the full data period?

      Thanks.

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        Geoff Sherrington

        Strop,

        We do have a UAH warming trend of a bit below 0.2 deg C per century equivalent over the last 12 years, but that is a trend that has other interests.
        A purpose of these Monckton style “pause” charts is to assist in prediction of cusps or turning points and to show their evolution month by month.
        Dr Spencer has calculated the long term trends of warming from the 1970s, for an overall view not particularly related to cusps.
        Does thius help?
        I can make a 12-year map if you really want one, but it is not my prime line of interest just now. Let me know.

        Thanks for your comment. Geoff

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      el+gordo

      ‘I cannot see much effect from the volcanic episode at Hunga Tonga … ‘

      Could it be that the Northern Hemisphere was impacted more than the Southern Hemisphere?

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    OldOzzie

    Tucker Carlson is Back in Moscow, Russia, to Interview Sergey Lavrov

    December 3, 2024 – Sundance

    Congratulations to Tucker Carlson for gaining re-entry visas during a time when Russia has essentially locked down their visitor entry process.

    Tucker Carlson has announced he is back in Moscow, Russia for an interview with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. WATCH:

    This should be an exceptional interview at a very critical time in the transition of U.S. power.

    Below is a transcript of the recent comments made by Russian President Vladimir Putin remarking on President Donald Trump.

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    John Connor II

    The shape of light: Scientists reveal image of an individual photon for 1st time ever

    Researchers in Birmingham have created the first image of a photon, a lemon-shaped particle of light emitted from the surface of a nanoparticle. The theory that made this image possible, reported Nov. 14 in the journal Physical Review Letters, enables scientists to calculate and understand various properties of these quantum particles — which could open up a range of new possibilities across fields such as quantum computing, photovoltaic devices and artificial photosynthesis.

    https://www.livescience.com/physics-mathematics/quantum-physics/the-shape-of-light-scientists-reveal-image-of-an-individual-photon-for-1st-time-ever

    Not what I expected.

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    another ian

    Bumped from yesterday’s discussion on Bovaer

    “In Australia, as part of their commitment to wokeness and ESG, Coles suppliers use this drug in cattle. They call it a “supplement” but the (US) FDA call it a drug.

    https://www.colesgroup.com.au/media-releases/?page=coles-boosts-sustainability-in-beef-production-with-expanded-use-of-supplement

    Here is Meat and Livestock Australia on that –

    https://www.mla.com.au/research-and-development/Environment-sustainability/bovaer10-your-questions-answered/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0J0WjxUzm1sPL8KSvcyHQlh_v1SX6KJBWMTcT-9hPh9QTBAubLWR94GFw_aem_TYWS0bVQJ83pmAezHy-a3A

    I haven’t had a chance to flea it to see if they have clicked to “supplement” or “drug”

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