There’s been a transformation in the last 6 years — the polarization between attitudes of young men and women is expanding like a bubble.
The new Gallup results suggesting the suddenly as many as 44% of young women identify as liberal but only 25% of young men do. It’s a gaping 19% maw. Eric Kaufman shows that its not because more women are going to university now, but mostly because more young women are Woke. The most important predictive factor in a thirteenfold (wow) kind of way, was simply whether they opposed controversial speakers on topics like BLM, abortion and LGBTQ-etc. In other words, it’s expanding like a designer fashion trend. And one so weak it has to hide the competition. It’s not a generational shift when half the generation is avoiding it. That’s good news. Bubbles will pop.
Wokeness targets women — offering them victimhood-candy and someone to blame, but almost always at the expense of men. Not surprisingly men are not turning up for their lecture on toxic masculinity. Think Gillette. Young men still want to impress young women, and being “Woke” can get the girl, but even that’s not enough to adopt the ideology.
Spread the word. Once the news gets out that political correctness is a girlie thing, and strong men stand against it, the pendulum will swing.
Why is the political gender gap growing?
Eric Kaufman, The Post
Recently, the centrist pundit Matthew Yglesias tweeted the historic time series of Gallup surveys on political ideology among Americans aged 18 to 29 (shown below).
The graphs demonstrate a growing ideological gap between the sexes, with a rapid increase in the share of “liberals” among women but not men. As polarisation deepens, fewer young people are calling themselves centrist or “don’t know” and picking an ideology, but only among women are they disproportionately moving Left.
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By 2016, a record 42% of women identified as liberal, versus 28% for men. I lack access to the raw HERI data for subsequent years but the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) surveys of 55,000 undergraduates in the top 150 colleges in 2020 and 2021 show that 61% of women lean liberal compared to 44% of men, a whopping 17-point gender gap.
…what underlies the astounding gender divergence in youth attitudes? Essentially, it appears to stem from a wokeness divide. In the FIRE survey, when you control for opposition to allowing controversial speakers (on BLM, abortion and trans rights) on campus, the statistical effect of gender on ideology collapses thirteenfold in statistical power.
Political Correctness is for girls:
Kaufman points at a 2020 survey which shows how strong the effect is in teenage girls and women up to age 25.
Once young women settle down with a man, the fashions change.
In the U.S. at least this trend was probably set in motion decades ago. The empower women campaign has had both good and bad effects. On the good side it has pushed many women to ponder paths in life they never would have long ago. It has been really fun having enthusiastic young women in my engineering courses. They are more detail oriented than the young men and a bit more disciplined, but also less intuitive and a bit less courageous about “hitting the switch on projects”. They are still a minority and will always be so because their interests in general do not tend this way — call me sexist but I have observed 50+ years of trying to coax young women into various engineering and physical science fields with spotty results.
On the other hand, much of the empower women crusade has ignored humility and self-knowledge as being important too, with the result that many young women are now passive/aggressive bullies with too much power. Look out.
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I work in a company that hires a lot of engineers all over the world, and they have implemented a quota for women (though are strangely quiet when it comes to countries that still don’t like women being educated…), which I think is stupid because it does nothing to address the “pipeline” of personnel.
Hiring all the female engineering graduates from any particular university will not satisfy a quota because generally, the percentage of women doing engineering is pretty low. Taking all the women regardless of demonstrated aptitude is also a mistake – not all graduates are good, or fit for the job, regardless of gender. They used to take the “best” graduates, regardless of gender (still flawed, but better than gender based quotas). Plus, there are many companies seeking engineers, and the oil industry is not necessarily a goal for everyone.
The company wants a lot more women in technical roles, but there’s zero effort to get involved with, or to start STEM programmes encouraging school age girls and boys to consider engineering or sciences. However, they do have a large number of “diversity and inclusivity” managers everywhere, all getting paid a fortune to do…whatever it is that Human Resources people apparently do.
I wish I could find it, but there have been studies to show that in countries where there is a strong social system encouraging people to follow whatever career they want (you know, actual “equality”), there is still a separation between men and women. Men still tend to gravitate towards male-dominated fields of study and career, and women towards female dominated fields of study and career.
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Why don’t they have gender and other diversity quotas for garbage collectors?
It shows the Elite and exclusive nature of the Left.
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Have you ever sen a woman climb down a sewer or stormwater “person” hole?
No??
Then that why I still call them manholes.
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When unmarried women were referred to as Ms I realised something was Missing.
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They do in expensive government ads for women’s ‘careers’. Most construction workers, diesel mechanics, rescue workers, mine workers etc are women according to my TV set.
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Jordon Peterson also called on this or a similar study with reference to Sweden, where women can be what ever they want to be. He pointed out that women prefer to work in industries that deal with people, eg medicine, nursing, teaching etc. Not engineering, mining, logging etc out in the back blocks in snow and heat.
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Jordan Peterson also pointed out the statistics with regards to bricklayers – its not a profession young women want to enter as it a very taxing and physical endeavour , even though it pays well. The thrust of his argument from my understanding of it was that woke women wanted power and any profession they were represented in such as teaching, nursing or care based work to be elevated in status and pay regardless of the market realities and in areas of very high white collar pay woke women wanted equal representation without having to deal with the male competition that comes from ambitious males striving for such roles.
It is interesting from a personal perspective as I have watched young women come through my organisation and many of them have been very good and excelled at the lower levels, yet as the pyramid gets smaller as they progress when they hit a roadblock a significant number revert to the victim mentality rather than acknowledging the competition for high paying roles .
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“On the other hand, much of the empower women crusade has ignored humility
and self-knowledge as being important too, with the result that many young women are now passive/aggressive bullies with too much power. Look out.”Are you really suggesting women should be humble and that it is wrong of them to speak their minds as to do so is passive/aggessive bullying? All strength to the empower women crusade may they continue to spread their message
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Humility is a good thing for both sexes. Why teach only men? Would you deny women…
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Yes…. Humility and kindness and compassion are positive qualities for all human beings ….these qualities are often seen as signs of weakness in todays jaundiced society and “strong” women, and “strong” men for that matter, are portrayed as asset-driven, status-driven, and control-driven.
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I should have seen in advance you’d chose your definition. Meaning: freedom from pride or arrogance. Praise someone excessively and it’s what you are likely to get.
Try assigning an earned grade to someone very entitled.
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‘ … may they continue to spread their message.’
Even if its wrong headed and irrational?
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“… may they continue to spread their message.’
Even if its wrong headed and irrational?”
Women seem not to consider the message either wrongheaded or irrational,
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My sister took on a woke aggressive stance.
Now several members of the family don’t want to talk to her any more!
An unintended consequence I suspect.
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Being humble includes speaking your mind… it includes speaking your mind and listening and hearing what others have to say when they speak their mind. It includes not assuming that your wisdom isn’t the supreme wisdom.
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I can only speak to my experience in Uni engineering and onward, some 40 yrs past to present. Roughly 14% finished.
In 1975 at my Uni, there were exactly 3 females in Mechanical Eng, 4 in ChemE, 6 in Civil, 3 in ArchE, 10 in ComSciE, 4 in EE power, out of 1,200 students of which 163 finally graduated in 1979. Upon graduation, the total, of all disciplines, who were female, was 6. That is 0.5 % of the initial cadre. 13% of the graduating initial cadre were male.
All of the females were very intelligent. Some very insightful and naturally capable. The ones who dropped out mostly did so because they didn’t enjoy the rigor and wanted less demanding structure. Very similar to the males who dropped out of Engineering. Most people dropped out because they weren’t qualified or weren’t accepting of the workload, or in a very few cases, simply “didn’t want to work that hard”. There were no quotas. Anyone who wanted to apply to the school of engineering was accepted. The curriculum was uniform and demanding. Those who truly wanted to succeed, did so.
But. To every graduating engineering student. None of us, at any time, could understand the insanity of the “others” outside of engineering. They (the other 24,000 students) were incomprehensible, illogical, and simply irrelevant to our goals. We simply had no time for, or interest in, things that weren’t applied science and maths. Except Fri and Sat nights.
Others mileage might vary.
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Many years ago I was involved in a human experimental study requiring a “clean” urine. Initially we advertized all over campus for volunteers, but the number of “dirty” urines from guys who claimed to be clean was going to break our limited budget – spending all going on screening. We switched to advertizing in Engineering Faculties and it solved the problem. In the end we had to explain in the publication that engineers could be expected to have low baseline and reactive emotionality.
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So we’re going into the era of “powerful women” (like the Finnsh PM) and “weak men” (woke) in politics. Whether we like it or not, women still gravitate towards more touchy feely types and men to more analytical. So all political decisions are much more going to be based on feelings than facts going forward, until it blows up. And these 2 groups are the “untested” ones – we don’t know what they’re going to do when they have the balance of power. I always find it kind of amazing (and amusing at good moments) that people all of a sudden start feeling very emboldened about their opinions depending on who they sleep with at night, eg the spouses of Medical Doctors often tend to be extremely outspoken on topics that they often do not seem to be better qualified to opine upon than anybody else in society (a generalization but you should get the point).
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Doctors wives. You are 100% correct. Many of them seem very well practiced at delivering a withering (well, intended to be) look of disapproval if you dare give an opinion they disagree with. They stop short of reminding you “Do you realise just WHO my husband happens to be!?” – but you can bet they’d love to threaten you with that if they could.
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Women who are into the touchy-feely can end up a bit lonely. Most women don’t like them and/or they find other women’s concerns boring. On the other hand, it is not possible to be fully “one of the boys”.
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Asking someone if they are liberal is pointless as the word has multiple political meanings. Does this mean that young woman are more in favor of free markets and individual rights?
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Yes. A distinction should be made betwwwn the use of the term “liberal” in the US sense that means of Left or far Left orientation and the alternative use of the term to describe someone who follows “classical liberalism” and who believes in individual rights, free speech, free enterprise, equal opportunity for all, democracy, rule of law, belief in ongoing progress, tolerance of alternative ideas etc.. Such people today would be called of the right, far right or “tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists” to use a favourite slur of the regressive Left.
Classical liberal ideas were or are promoted by people like Friedrich von Hayek, Murray N. Rothbard, Milton Friedman, Thomas Solwell, Adam Smith etc..
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Al the names you mentioned will be labelled “far right” along with Jordan Petersen by any MSM outlet if they were to hit the headlines for anything. And that is in lovely utopean ‘Straya mate. So “liberal” has pretty much been hijacked like “gay” etc.
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The term “progressive” is now used to imply opposing views must therefore be “regressive” and somehow bad.
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David: Good comment. What you call “Classical Liberalism” is known as “Libertarian” in the US. Unfortunately both the left and right characterize Libertarians as anarchists and kooks and they have little political traction. Senator Rand Paul is on of the few politicians who calls himself a libertarian and still gets elected.
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Simon, Something has changed in a big way since 2016 (look at the top graph.). Did the definition of liberal transform, or was it something else? If it is a word definition, why do men see it differently? There was no transformation for them.
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…why do men see it differently?
There was an hypothesis that I remember reading many years ago offering a kinda evolutionary explanation. However, I hesitate to mention as it’s politically incorrect so I provide it only as food-for-thought to see if it passes your own “ring-true” test. Everyone here agrees, I am sure, that men and women are different and over the millennia men and women had different roles. Men hunted. That involved tracking, perhaps for days, and tactics. The most successful became leaders. Men had to be empirical to improve their success rate. Empirical truth ruled their day. Women had a different approach to the world. They had children and had to ensure resources for them. It was vitally important to know what was going on around them among the other women (and men) in order to maximise those resources. In other words, they had to know what the collective was thinking. So, women did not need to be quite so empirical, instead “fitting-in” with the collective was much more important. In a nutshell, this means that women will always ‘defer to the collective’ for truth. That’s why women are a dream for advertising executives; tell them that all other women are buying this product and they buy that product. Convince a woman that other women believe something (whether or not it is true) and they will be inclined to do so. Our “intellectuals” are reshaping the narrative at such a rapid rate at the moment, perhaps the women are simply deferring to what they think the collective is thinking. Who knows whether there is any truth in this, I’m not convinced.
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What’s bizarre is the Left call black conservatives like Larry Elder “white supremacists”. In fact the Los Angeles times called Elder “the black face of white supremacy” and others call him an “Uncle Tom”, in fact, thst inspired him to make a movie by that name.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-20/recall-candidate-larry-elder-is-a-threat-to-black-californians?_amp=true
SEE LINK FOR REST
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It’s not pointless as it has become defined as the belief that the government, and everyone’s personal views, must be the opposite of conservative. Its unlikely that “liberal” will be taken to mean a free market believer in the US – or anything free except stuff from the government.
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US conservatives have a history of taking a word, distorting its meaning and then using it as an insult against their political opponents. “Woke” is another example, being alert to racial prejudice and discrimination is not a bad thing.
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have a history of taking a word, distorting its meaning and then using it as an insult
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Sorry, the quote and my comments somehow got inverted.
My quote is at top.
My comment at bottom.
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And who project the most? Narcissists.
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You left out: the irresponsible, psychopaths, sociopaths, criminals, and the insane. 🙂
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If thats what it meant and that was the limit of it that would be fine, and you imagine thats reality then bless your heart. In reality its think PC in all things , just like me, or else!
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You’re right Simon, as introduced 22 years ago in Delgado and Stefancic’s book: “Critical Race Theory An Introduction”, the emphasis is as you say on sensitivity to minorities and avoidance of discrimination. Their study was based on years of data collection from the US justice system (black judges, incarceration of blacks, etc.) and private sector hiring trends that have discriminated against blacks and those who haven’t come from the right Ivy League institutions. But along the way those good intentions have deep hijacked by a postmodern view that demonises whiteness as the source of all evil in Western civilisation. This new guilt/victimhood/cancellation industry is now the cornerstone of wokeism. In the pushback against wokeism, the original good intentions behind CRT are being obscured or distorted. The original social grace of John Locke’s liberal tolerance, which is the foundation of pluralism in a multicultural community, is sadly too rare these days to reconcile the culture wars!
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Where theories such as CRT get it wrong and become a mish-mash of confused ideas is from their basic premises of dividing human beings into categories that don’t recognise our inherent commonalities. Without that foundation the theories devolve into racist/sexist/class definitions and become prey to the part of our brains that sees differences. Once this mechanism is in play the apparent differences multiply and we end up as a society of divisions not cohesions.
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Simon, if it’s just a question of “being alert” to racial prejudice, why do they need to silence all dissent? Remember, that was the defining feature that identified the new group of Woke young women — they didn’t want “other speakers” on campus.
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“Woke” is like “fake news”. The term has been turned back on the originators.
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Jo further confuses things by spelling it with an upper-case L. That makes it a political party (and doesn’t make much sense for America).
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Fair point Robert, fixed.
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But Australia’s “Liberal Party” is no longer a conservative party, and has liberal beliefs as in the American sense.
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Only for those wishing to plat semantic games , its a pretty well used and well understood phrase
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For probably the first time ever i agree with you Simon. Language and thus labels have been debased and distorted. Liberal is now used for authoritarian anti-freedom socialists (USA), and freemarket, free-speech supporting laisse-faire libertarians (English speaking world). Conservative just means change-resistant. So Xi and his chinese friends are conservative as are other socialists and also free-marketeers in USA. Both liberal and conservative are applied to the same people by different people, and both can be authoritarian.
Best to avoid these debased labels. I now use socialists and libertarians. That is those who want state control and reduced freedoms, versus those who want free choice, free speech, free thought and free markets.
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Of course ‘liberal ‘ has multiple meanings ….. Your riposte is another one of your semantic nitpickings and evasions Simon …….As for the term ” Woke ” Simon has rehearsed Gee Ayes superficial argument I debunked here on Jo’s blog months ago [ That he preferred was deleted after he was schooled ] . Not a good idea to concur with Simon completely bobn ..The original definition of ” Woke ‘ is not “alert to racial prejudice and discrimination which is in fact a reprise of the 2017 Oxford English Dictionary entry. William Melvin Kelleys 1962 lexicon of African American vernacular ” If You’re Woke You Dig It ” defined ” Woke’ as slang for ” well informed up to date ” It once meant erudite and well versed in current affairs US conservatives did not distort the meaning of the word Politically correct revisionist puritans such as Simon did Much like “hipster ” it was appropriated as a pejorative – and not undeservedly – to mock intersectionalist zealots who filtered and distorted Woke through the prisms of postmodernism and Marxism’s concept of a ‘false consciousness. Watch “Episode One – Origins of Woke Ideology Part 1 ” narrated by Helen Pluckrose on youtube
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You have actually fallen into Simon’s misinterpretative folly bobn ….Conservative is not tantamount to “change resistant ‘ but rather the preservation of national traditions and social mores…. Xi Jinping and his CCP comrades are not ‘conservatives or socialists They are now classical national socialists and that is no debased label
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It means whatever you say it means now Stuart. The definition is not in the hands of the people who get the label and possibly never was.
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“Once young women settle down with a man, the fashions change.”
Maybe they just wake up to the World a bit more by their late 20s.
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They belatedly realise the world is not quite what their perfessor told them it would be like.
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Yes. Which is cause and which is effect, or is there a causal relationship at all?
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Cross fertilisation takes place naturally, the pressure to conform is overwhelming.
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A notable and extremely disturbing example of women being “woke” is the observable fact that nearly everyone, including “doctors” involved in promoting the shocking phenomenon of the heavy promotion of transgederism toward children is female (also including the mothers of children).
In this video, all the video segments of female medical doctors involved in “transitioning” children are female. And even worse, they all seem happy about it.
https://youtu.be/NtAFo1Nn7to (Under 12 mins)
It is quite odd how the Left do promote transgenderism when they tell us there is no real difference between the sexes.
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It sounds quite contradictory to me, since “leftists” or “socialists” or “Marxists” (which ever term might be appropriate to describe those who are, basically, totalitarians in their political orientation), since they are completely unable to define what a ‘woman’ is, in the first place. If you do not know what gender the “trans”-gendered person is, how can you possibly know what to ‘transition’ them to?
Lest anyone think I am writing in jest, I’m not. If one does not know what a ‘woman’ or a ‘man’ is to begin with, then how can one possibly transition the subject to the “other” gender?
I must be missing something … … …
Regards,
Vlad
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A day of reckoning on trans kids looms
Authorities around the world have been spooked into blindly facilitating irreversible procedures for children – despite the increasing evidence of the damage done
In 2003, the Gender Clinic at the Royal Children’s Hospital in Melbourne received one referral of a child who was experiencing gender dysphoria. Six years later, in 2009, the numbers remained low, with six children receiving referrals that year.
Then in 2010, the ironically-named Safe Schools, focused on gender and sexual diversity of children, was launched in Victoria. By 2013, the year the program received federal funding, the Gender Clinic received 40 referrals for gender diverse children.
As the program expanded and transgender children started to feature more prominently in popular culture, the numbers increased. In 2020, the same clinic received 473 referrals for children presenting with gender dysphoria.
One child a year in 2003. More than one child a day in 2020. Similar increases are being reported across the US and UK as well.
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Thanks for posting Old Ozzie.
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Well, now that I’ve had some time to think about it, as far as I’m concerned, we should be encouraging those who want to do this ‘transition’ do so, and as expeditiously as possible.
Since doing the transition involves removing the functioning reproductive organs of the transitionee, this means that the transitioned individual will be unable to reproduce.
Just as most abortions (other than medically-necessary ones) are done on and by the ‘socialists’ in our societies, they will at some point, extinct themselves.
Yeah, I know — — a pipe dream, as the leftists in our societies can recruit as many disciples as they like through the public education system.
But, I can hope.
Regards,
Vlad
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” they will at some point, extinct themselves. ”
Search-up “the Roe Effect” so named by James Taranto of the WSJ.
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[The conservative commentator] Johnathon Turley says this will happen in one or two generations. Not “extinct themselves” but lose political power none the less.
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No. Children are being manipulated by Politically Active parents and “educators” and ideologues. It isn’t the Children who are “choosing”, they are victims of propaganda and externally enforced ideology.
I would gladly apply your implied responsibility to the Parents, Guardians, Teachers, and Doctors, who use Children as the cannon fodder of their own beliefs.
If one may not vote, drink alcohol, own a firearm, drive an automobile, legally marry, own property, obtain a loan or credit card, below the age of 18 or 21 depending upon nationality, the how are 6 yr olds capable of making irreversible, life changing, decisions?
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Hear, hear.
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Reply to O.O.
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Obvious really. Men don’t like being nagged.
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Young men won’t want to go to war to protect these young, entitled, offensive, self-righteous, socialist women. The term liberal is used incorrectly in this article.
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They won’t go to war for them, Petros. I think we’ve seen this play out at the end of the Roman Empire – society goes to the pits and then gets overrun by the barbarians who sort out those weird types. It’s the small remnant that stays true to the norms that eventually start building themselves up into sufficient numbers and then starts fighting for their freedoms again, but it is a marathon and it takes a few generations. So to summarize: Western civilization as we know it is toast and will be replaced by something – the exact nature thereof we’re not certain about yet.
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It’s not pointless as it has become defined as the belief that the government, and everyone’s personal views, must be the opposite of conservative. Its unlikely that “liberal” will be taken to mean a free market believer in the US – or anything free except stuff from the government.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/22/study-young-white-liberals-more-likely-to-have-mental-health-problems/
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Add to that cohort the gender confused.
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Bearing in mind feminists complain that men who transition to women, say in sport, mean they are being increasingly canceled, (also see attackers on such as JK Rowling) it seems surprising that women are the most liberal thereby affecting their own sex the most.
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Back in the day a girl may have been a tomboy and a boy may have been effeminate.
Left to their own devices they would either grow out of it or grow up to become whatever they were to become.
Nowadays, a woke regressive Leftist activist will immediately and cruelly subject them to social, hormonal and physical “transition” permanently mutilating and sterilising them, not making them less confused and ruining their lives and bodies.
Social “transition” can start at ages of three or less when woke parents start dressing kids in the wrong clothes and telling all their friends and social media how they now have a “son” instead of a daughter and vice versa..
In extremely rare true cases of gender dysphoria, back in the day, there were years of psychiatric counselling before “gender reassignment” (sic) was even considered.
A transgender child is like the vegan cat of a Leftist “feminist”. We know it is not the cat driving the agenda.
“Trans” children are like exotic pets as status symbols for woke parents.
You will never see the Left admit to or warn of the huge number of cases of transgender regret.
If people with mental illnesses want to pretend to change gender, let them do it after they are 18 or preferably much older or even better, NOT AT ALL.
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Supreme Court Justice defining a woman outside my paygrade
Peta Credlin
It’s “just extraordinary” that US Supreme Court nominee Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson is unwilling to define what a woman is, says Sky News host Cory Bernardi.
When asked to provide a definition during her confirmation hearing, Ms Jackson said, “I can’t … not in this context – I’m not a biologist”.
“It’s just extraordinary, but it reflects how tortured the left’s rhetoric on gender relationships and everything else is, that they are unprepared to talk about some biological realities,” Mr Bernardi told Sky News host Peta Credlin.
“How are you going to have a judge, a Supreme Court justice that is unwilling to define what a woman is, or a man for that matter?”
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Stop trying to use logic to explain modern political machinations.
The left, particularly in the USA, are engaged in Disintegrating society in order to reform it.
The whole Woke Thing is a series of hand grenades aimed at just that.
The whole Climate Change thing is destructive.
The whole sexual revolution, transgenderism and abortion – ditto.
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After the latest SCOTUS decisions that directly affect women I expect the number identifying as liberal will climb, particularly in that demographic
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You mean because they can’t access that rather severe form of birth control called abortion, they will get woke and turn lefty liberal.
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Cheap effective, reversible birth control for women has been available for over a century, the IUD was invented in 1909 and “the pill” was approved for use in 1960.
As Ronin said, abortion is a rather extreme method of birth control.
In the US, abortions are still available for incest, rape and severe deformities or threats to mother’s health and in any case, the USSC didn’t ban them, they just said it wasn’t a federal government issue. Women can go to any state where they are available if they live in a state where “birth control” type abortions are banned.
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This is what national constitutions are about. — They are not something to be changed on a whim.
Careful thought is required before we change ours, as being promoted by the new Prime Minister.
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Still can’t accept a constitutionally correct ruling.??
As David say.. not banned, just passed to states where it should always have been
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The SCOTUS decision doesnt affect women at all. It hands power back the the States. If some women have a problem with State level decisions they can vote those politicians out. A power they do not have with SCOTUS occupants. If anything the SCOTUS decisions place power back in the hands of the people instead of directing from above, which is really why the Dems hate it rather than any faux concern for women.
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So if it’s not because more young women are going to university, what is the driving factor behind it, fashion mags ?
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Some young people have felt encouraged by sympathetic internet sites to transition to the opposite gender. As 13/15 year olds going through teenage angst , hating their parents, no friends, hating their body was identified as a sign they were in the wrong body and needed to transition to be happy. Ten years later one interviewee realised what they did was so very wrong and were angry that nobody was there in the medical profession to support them and say ‘hang on let’s try a bit of counselling first’.
Michael Knowles interviewed one such young lady and it’s a tragic heart breaking story.
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I just think it is simply that women have put more thought into it and men are lagging. Women are not tied to the kitchen reading the weekly any more.
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WRONG… Some women are more gullible to fantasies, and often tend to have “victim” complexes that more often leads to virtue-seeking and group-think.
We see this type regularly at “women’s” marches wearing pink tea-cosies.. (even though they can’t define what a woman is.)
Search for “Karen” on the web.
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Between the age of 15-25 women are very romantic, eventually they realise its not true love. Men are not lagging, all the professions are still overwhelmingly male dominated.
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” I just think it is simply that women have put more thought into it …..Women are not tied to the kitchen reading the weekly anymore ”
Oh please . Your pretentious “male feminist” posturing is hilarious Gee Aye . Most women see right
through the likes of you ….Can you think of any male parodies comparable to the stellar success of Andrew Doyles satirical character Titania McGrath ?…Why do you think that might be ? Have you watched Cathy Newmans interview with Jordan Peterson ?…The psychological and sociological studies scrutinizing the phenomenon of Woke puritanism within a decade – hopefully when the societal mania abates [ as occurred with the Maoist Cultural Revolution and MacCarthyism ] – will be something to behold …There
may even be ” paleo gendered wokeness’ studies” in university departments if they survive at all …
.Something tells me you’ll be blowing with the wind and slipping into the new sociological fashion or as flummoxed as ever
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The less you know the more you think you know. Your premise is incorrect. I know nothing aobut the things you are asking me questions about and nothing you wrote makes me curious to know.
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I’m not a male feminist
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Here is a woman who has “put more thought into it ”
Xi Van Fleet lived through and survived the Maoist Cultural Revolution .She had this to say about the Woke movement : ” whats going on in our school and in our country its really a replay of the Cultural Revolution in China .I want people to see these similarities and the similarities are terrifying ”
https://thepostmillennial.com/watch-survivor-of-maos-regime-compares-woke-culture-to-chinese-cultural-revolution
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Maybe men and women ARE different after all.
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The fruit of the forbidden tree of knowledge was pictured as an apple. We aren’t sure what fruit actually was…., but I guess we know what the forbidden knowledge was…..
And we also know who is the serpent…
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Phuch! ( Huh! – pronounced fooooch in soft Scots English – no K’s ) This story is like a Bucket of petrol in a workshop, without a Lid: If little activity on a hot day, petrol can evaporate away = OK, but a few little sparks getting closer to the fumes ….
Now I have discussed something like this over past few years with those open / broad-minded enough to discuss it ( student flats at weekend late evenings was a great time for such deep philosophical determinations by non- philosophy student, along with a couple or so bottles of Newcastle Brown. ). We had the phenomenon in the mid 90’s of girl-power … what was that =awful earworm song,,,, ( glad to have gotten rid of it ! ) what you really really want, or or something like that. Was that the Seed being sown ? AS for bursting the bubble, If you’re allergic to detergents, don’t go around blowing and bursting bubbles – but the wet mess and lowered surface tension created by the deposits can have a nasty consequence. …. I eagerly await with trepidation .
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I also think the term liberal is also a poor choice, unless we take it to mean the recent decline to left or far left or socialist or communist.
As stated above the classic liberal term always means a free thinker to me and they are always a passionate supporter of free speech and always against censorship.
In fact some conservatives are also liberal in regard to social issues but always seek out data and evidence when discussing climate change for example.
I remember reading that a younger Jo Nova was once a Greens supporter but has changed over the years. It would be interesting to try to understand that movement away from the present Totalitarianism of the Greens and to a more liberal point of view?
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Yes, I was one of those young women, that’s why I found this survey so interesting, and hopeful. The better we understand the problem, the faster we can solve it. I raised money for the Greens party, went on woodchip mill protests, was vegetarian for five years. I spoke on ABC radio with regular segments that were often Left-science-leaning. From barely 3 months out of my teens I was surrounded by people at ANU and in the National Science Centre who were politically correct. Don’t get me wrong, they were good people and I like them. But I knew almost no world history or political strategy and I was exposed to only one point of view. As I got older I met people with other opinions and I took those opinions back to Green friends, but they didn’t have good answers. Likewise when I read books. One topic at a time in a long process I realized the Green solutions were often the short term simple fixes that caused more harm than they solved.
I remember one long bus trip from Canberra back to Perth when I spent hours on one leg sitting next to someone much older who knew a lot about gun control. I was struck at the time that I had no idea there were arguments in favour of gun ownership. He was polite and wise. It was eye-opening. Those one on one conversations you randomly have may be remembered years later.
Things I wish I was taught at school —
1. People who are pushing something false use name-calling, intimidation and censorship. We need to teach our children to spot these techniques. To recognise the con artists they will inevitably come across, and to also see through the false religions.
2. That I would have to hunt for the truth — to always seek out the best of both sides — because it would be obscured at every point where money and power depended on obscuring it.
3. Books that changed the way I think — Off the top of my head –The Creature from Jekyll Island (Griffin), The Lucifer Principle (Howard Bloom), Eat the Rich (PJ O Rourke), Vision of the Annointed (Thomas Sowell), The Bell Curve (Hernstein and Murray), America Alone (Mark Steyn).
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Thanks very much for your comments Jo and I’m sure you’re a more well researched and knowledgeable person today.
I’m a lot older than you and not very well educated, but I read a lot and try to keep up as best I can.
My computer skills are very basic but I enjoy the graphs and data from you and WUWT and others over the years.
BTW here’s a very interesting movie based on the Bletchley Park world war 2 work of the young maths gurus led by Alan Turing from 1939 to 1941 when they deciphered the German Enigma codes. He built the first Turing machine and achieved the desired result in about 20 months. After the war they estimated that they saved 14 million lives and shortened the war by 2 years.
But the gay Turing was arrested in 1951 and given the choice of chemical castration or imprisonment. He chose castration, but by 1954 he’d had enough and killed himself. A lot more docos on you tube and he was officially pardoned recently by Queen Elizabeth. Certainly a very sad tale indeed.
https://ok.ru/video/3443021580901
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By the way Neville there is a very interesting little fact that it was Polish cryptographers who
deciphered the Enigma Code in the early 1930’s …..Alan Turing and the Bletchley Park unit took the credit for the Poles efforts and in the age of “Wokewashing ” the gay icon Turing played by Benedict Cumberbatch in the hagiography ” The Imitation Game’ is now placed on a pedestal as the tormented genius who cracked the Enigma Code and saved millions of lives .The Enigma Code breakthroughs are rightfully attributed to the Poles ” Polish Codebreakers Cracked Enigma In 1932 Before Alan Turing ” War History Online 2016 ]…Turing was treated abysmally by Britains security services and so too others such as the archaeologist Gordon Childe
The “unpersoned” Polish cryptographers barely rated a mention in the revisionist movie ‘The Iimitation Game ” …Of course this is not the first time the British have betrayed and deprived the Poles of the pivotal role they played in the victory over Nazi Germany and the Axis ….Polish pilots who excelled in the skies during the Battle of Britain shooting down Luftwaffe bombers ,saving thousands of Britons lives were denied the right to march in the VE Day celebrations at the end of the war to appease Stalin ..
.A very sad tale indeed . Its worse than you think
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Not long after that disgrace MI6 agents under the orders of Clement Attlees government were ,mining and blowing up Jewish refugee ships in European harbors [ with orders to blame American industrialists if caught. ] en route to safe haven in Palestine …This time [ coveting the Middle Easts oil reserves ] to appease the Arabs .. The former director of MI6 Maurice Oldfield gloated to his friends and colleagues of his time in British Mandate Palestine torturing Jewish nationalist prisoners .Oldfield was also close to the Kincorra Childrens Home manager at the centre of a pedophile abuse scandal for which British military intelligence officer Colin Wallace was allegedly framed by MI5 to silence and discredit him ..Somehow I doubt Prince Charles , MI5 and MI6 now obsessed with gay coffee mornings and emphasing gender sensitive language will find the time to atone for Britains atrocious maltreatment of Colin Wallace , the Kincorra boys , Polish servicemen and Jewish refugees ……..
Ostentatious public apologies and pardoning of LGBT heroes though – well thats de rigeur and wins the woke plaudits doesnt it ? Just dont mention Oldfield . Kincorra the Cambridge homosexual traitors and the lives lost because of their treachery…..Its amazing how it has all turned full circle and now Woke ideologuesw in the United Kingdoms security agencies are persecuting Islamic rape gang whistleblowers and thought criminals such as Harry Miller and Darren Brady for jokes and memes mocking LGBT ideology
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The brilliant Jennifer Oriel was another of the young women ‘seduced and indoctrinated by nascent woke ideology who matured as you have Joanne.. I watched Jennifer recount her progression when interviewed on John Andersons podcasts ..Probably too much for Gee Aye to appreciate ……. Does the school system teach the techniques of spotting logical and argumentative fallacies in the national curriculum such as ‘ad hominem ” Appeal to Authority , the Bandwagon Fallacy and the rest of the lexicon ? [ Formally in the curricula content that is ] I wasn’t taught them. I educated myself . A cynic could be forgiven for suspecting leftist educrats do not want students to think so critically they are empowered to deconstruct their own brainwashing ..I once spoke to a university geology graduate – and a teachers aide – who told me he had no idea what logical fallacies were
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Despite getting prizes and spending five years in science at UWA and ANU I don’t recall one lecture on Aristotelian reasoning. Nor could I have told you when I graduated, off the top of my head, what the key difference between science and religion was. Though I probably thought I could have.
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ANU has a world renowned Philosophy department. The courses were there if you wanted them.
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Journalism courses are there for those who want them . The old Communist David McKnight
and Margaret Simons ran such courses Have they improved the quality of journalism ?..Not at all .I
learned more about journalism – or what passes for it – watching the documentary on the dirty tricks of the Information Research Department smearmeisters in Northern Ireland titled ” The Man Who Knew Too Much ” and Tommy Robinsons Sappho Award speech than I did reading the newspapers .
” ANU has a world renowned Philosophy department” is Appeal to Authority right there….The prestige of an institution or department and its syllabus is worthless if you cannot think and reason independently Philosophy departments are captured by leftist ideologues as well [
Gramscian theory must go down a treat at the ANU Joanne knows what I’m referring too ].Remember Joanne wrote The Skeptics Handbook “…Have you read it ?
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” ANU has a world renowned Philosophy department ” is Appeal to Authority right there. The prestige of an institution or department and its course syllabus is worthless if you cannot think and reason logically and independently .You – like so many Woke activists and academics -seem impervious to reason
By way of analogy, journalism courses are ” there for those who want them ” The old Marxist David McKnight and Margaret Simons presided over journalism courses .Have they improved the quality of journalism and intelligence of journalists ? No they have not anymore than philosophy graduates . I learned more about journalism – or what passes for it – watching the documentary on the dirty tricks of the Information Research Department smearmeisters in Northern Ireland and Britain titled ” The Man Who Knew Too Much ” and Tommy Robinsons Sappho Award speech than I ever did regularly reading the newspapers. Gramscian theory must go down a treat in the staff captured ANU philosophy department .Jo knows what I’m referring to
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That comment was not addressed to you and yet you go off about something altogether different. I was reminding Jo that the institute she attended could have provided the teaching she mentioned. Mentioning the renown of the faculty was not in any way a part of an argument so there was no appeal to authority. This was an observation, not an endorsement.
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” That comment was not addressed to you and yet you go off about something altogether different I was reminding Jo the institute she attended could have provided the teaching she mentioned ” ….
Were you coached into that comment ? The reference to journalism courses was an anology [the clue is there in my statement ” by way of analogy “] and I have every right to participate in an open debate thread you narcissist …….Citing the ANU philosophy department as ” world renowned ” with no outline of the syllabus offered as some petty challenge [ your riposte was indeed argumentative ] to Jo’s complaint she was short changed studying her science degrees is indeed ” Appeal to Authority ” and your comment was both an observation and an implicit endorsement [ ” world renowned” ? Esteemed by whom ? ] That is a false alternative” fallacy right there You have no understanding of these basic concepts and you nitpick and snipe at Jo and contributors here for no worthwhile reasons
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So Gee Aye, you argue that science students should not be taught the Philosophy of Science unless they choose to do a Philosophy class?
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no. I didn’t argue that.
I do note that HPS is very rarely explicitly taught in any science course and even then is an elective from outside of the science faculty. That’s an observation not an endorsement.
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Dodging the question — perhaps because you realize how silly your one liner sounds?
Do you or don’t you think every science graduate should have been taught what Science is at university?
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If you had asked that question instead of impugning that I had stated an opinion you could argue that I didn’t answer a question.
Yes, I think HPS should be a part of tertiary science curriculums. Could be some argument about how but I think that it should be referenced whenever scientific method is being taught as a minimum. I also can see that in a great many places it should be kept simple as there is not the expertise to handle its depths in most campuses. Probably just 3 in Australia could do HPS at third year level.
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You impugned yourself with the smart-alec one-liner. Good to see you didn’t really mean what you were clearly implying.
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Former Greens candidate and “philosopher of ethics ” Peter Singer is apparently a ‘world renowned ” philosopher rewarded with chairs at Melbourne University and one of the Ivy League campuses .He is also an open supporter of conditional infanticide [ eugenics by another name ] bestiality and once defended the sexual molestation of a severely disabled man by a woman …He penned an essay advocating the human right to have sex with animals titled ” Heavy Petting “….
Can you appreciate the importance of analogy now ‘Gee Aye ” ? .[ Doubtful I would guess
You are impervious to reason and too obsessed with looking Woke ]…How did Singers philosophy training in “world renowned ” universities improve him as a human being ? Not that his sick ideas were a problem for the Greens or a sleazy shrink I once met
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Seems that getting me to answer was of more interest than the question at hand.
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We have three “Liberal” women to thank for rebadging Pol Pot’s “Year Zero” into “Net Zero by 2050”
Rachel Kyte, Farhana Yamin and Christiana Figueres,
Economic destruction and famine on a scale much larger that what Stalin achieved has been and will continue to occur thank’s to these three “liberal” women
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Rachel Carson.
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Various commentators have pointed out that the Left have completely degraded, deidentified and degendered women by rendering them undefineable.
This was proven in Matt Walsh’s documentary “What is a woman”. Despite his best efforts he couldn’t find a single Leftist that could explain what a woman is. This is consistent with the post-modernist thinking of the Left which posits that there is no such thing as objective reality.
The Left have reduced women to nothing more than a collection of body parts and hormones, and not even that because a Leftist will tell you that a “woman” can have male body parts as well.
You have to be a subscriber to see the full documentary but there are many short clips on YouTube plus commentary by Matt Walsh himself.
The Left have destroyed all notions of womanhood, manhood and have even introduced multiple new supposed gender identities. Even species identities. There is a schoolgirl in Australia that goes to school identifying as a cat, see the link in the post I made in open threaded yesterday.
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It’s truly sad that young women can be sucked into such an anti-women movement.
re the definition of man and woman: everyone has one father and one mother. We’re talking natural parent here, not registered parent, step-parent, etc. By definition, a father is a man and a mother is a woman. There are people who for whatever reason will never be a father or a mother. It is likely that some of these desrve a separate category. Trying to shoehorn them into one of the two main categories would seem to be doing them a great disservice, even if they are making the attempt for themselves.
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The Teals are another example of feminized woke thinking. The shallowness is revealed if anyone dares to ask a question that scratched one layer deep into the subject matter of anything they claim to be passionate about. In the main they seem to be classic meme regurgitators just waiting for their next script.
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Climate change is the Trojan Horse, the maternal instinct is built into the DNA.
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Simon Holmes à Court would not have been successful infiltrating politics with men the way he has done so with his women. It’s the “bigotry of low expectations” writ large.
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This whole woke nonsense was always going to crash when guys started to smash female sport especially records. Girls will regect woke male/female records.
Dads can never fully replace a mum’s empathy and tenderness.
Mum’s can never replace Dad’s male role model. Dads put a different perspective on issues and when parents work togother we team as in sharing ask your
mum/dad how hey think or feel about that? That helps develop balanced attitudes.
The two mums kids are confused misfits. Two mums is child abuse with long term repercussions.
Every kid needs a mum and two dads is not healthy.
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The vaccines and the destruction of farming are completely unnecessary.
TikTok, The View, Miley Cyrus, Amber Heard, the average college feminist, Nancy Pelosi, AOC, Liz Cheney … are destroying libidos across the board.
Fewer new anthros will be produced to anthropogenicize.
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That’s if the woke men and woke women don’t bring down the “strong men” with a woke court or human rights commission that defines anti-woke speech as hate speech.
The misogyny card will be the new race card.
It’s going to take some strong women to stand up too. Although they’ll be labelled something else like Traitors for the Tyrannical Patriarchy.
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The misogyny card has already been played many times in Australian politics. Don’t dare question anything a female politician has to say, or what they have done – no matter how ridiculous, wrong, corrupt, or ignorant it might be – unless they are part of the LNP, then they are fair game.
Strangely, the supposed bastions of women rights on the “left” think that women are not smart, and only join the Liberal or National parties because men told them to… at least it’s clear who the real sexists are.
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Get woke, go broke.
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That’s why woke animal rights wallies value chooks and pigs as humans.
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Mmmm. That reminds me I’m having bacon with breakfast….
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Wokeness appeals to emotion – primarily empathy – not outcomes and objective justice. That is probably all you need to know.
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A Poll Asked College Democrats If They’d Room With a Trump Supporter. Here’s What They Said.
Nearly every U.S. college has gone woke in one aspect or another, and the students who attend are no less different politically.
In a new NBC News/Generation Labs poll, almost two-thirds, or 62 percent, of Democrat college students say that they would “probably not” or “definitely not” choose to room with a Trump supporter.
An 18-year-old college student told NBC News that she would consider sharing a room with a Republican, but absolutely not someone who voted for former President Trump in 2020 because he is “not the average Republican.”
Imagine turning down a potential life-long friend because you didn’t approve of who they voted for.
However, the poll found that Republicans sang a different tune when it came to people of different political views.
Only 28 percent of college Republicans said they would refuse to share a dorm room with someone who voted for President Joe Biden.
Additionally, most voters claimed they wouldn’t date or marry someone with a different political background than them.
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Here is a Cartoon to explain it all for those young Women and how they think these days (daze).
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/GreenDealCartoon.jpg
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Brilliant!
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Ahem! Don’t you mean “persons who identify as women are more likely to be liberal then persons who identify as men”?
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The entire woke movement is doomed. The illegal 3rd world armies of military age immigrants crossing our borders don’t care about wokeness, diversity nor affirmative action. They will not be intimidated nor bow to some nebulous righteousness but will take what they want. The progressive woke have opened the gates to a potential new dark age.
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In British Columbia, Canada, if a Woman isn’t “vaccinated” and she is pregnant, then she must repay any maternity leave benefits back to the Government of Canada. This can be CAD 20,000 to CAD 50,000. Talk about Woke grip on Women.
https://www.myprincegeorgenow.com/164551/news/unvaccinated-mothers-facing-up-to-50000-in-maternity-leave-repayment-to-bc-government/
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In the very early 1990s I employed a thirty something years old graduate with experience working for a major accounting firm as finance manager of the company I managed, the public company board of directors were then much older men and they were very uncomfortable about a female being employed to that position but they did not try to stop me from appointing her, they just gave me fatherly advice that I disagreed with.
She was within six months not only accepted but was consulted for advice on financial matters relating to the group of companies from time to time, and remained in her position for thirteen years.
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Why are women more liberal? Quite simple, they’re more empathetic (which doesnt mean men aren’t empathetic). They think more emotionally than logically (which doesn’t mean women don’t use logic). This is not a bad thing, it just is what it is. In one of those old fashioned things called families, the mother is the nice one who gives comfort when the child cries, and the father hands out the discipline and makes them cry. It works.
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On basic personality trait scales, men tend to be significantly more disagreeable.
When men are constantly being told they are evil, why would they acquiesce?
Women, on the other hand, measure higher on neuroticism and conscientiousness. With lower trait disagreeability, the woke religion would seem a perfect fit for young female university students.
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yes absolutely
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Yep there are major differences in average psychology between men and women, much of it driven by evolution.
-for last few 1000 years 80% of women have had surviving kids, but only 40% of men (in some periods it has dropped below 10%). Men were frequently darwinated by conflicts and competition and have thus evolved toward risk taking and determined resistance to subjugating force – and evolution produces greater variability in men than women due to those bad odds. Men had to protect their culture/tribe/society or take gamble at being something standout or a rapacious warrior (occasionally pays off big) to produce descendents. Women generally did best from fitting in with whatever dominant culture of moment was – don’t want to be singled out as witch or be unliked etc when you are martially weak and rely upon others approval for survival and support of kids, but the psychology required also sees them generally more malleable and ready to switch allegiances easily – caring greatly about others approval, acquiescing to societal and partner demands, or jumping into bed with the invaders was a survival trait. After (at least) a few hundred generations of evolution in this reality we see women with their agreeability likely to adopt beliefs of whatever group they are immersed in – eg left wing university classes or Murderous totalitarian govt, or a more conservative mate. There are few iconoclastic women compared to men.
Add a broken academic system that rewards unhinged extremism – a 100 year problem where you have to be radical to get status/promotion in academia – merely promulgating well validated knowledge structures and understanding (eg being a good wise and balanced teacher) doesn’t get you an academic career so the whole university system is a game inevitably set up to move towards ever more nutty and anti-social fringe belief systems – the meaningless sophistry of postmodernist, conflict theory focused far left being the easiest, silliest ground to plough (as evidenced by Pluckrose, Lindsay, Boghossian grievance studies debacle), and as a consequence academia is stridently left wing, spitting out armies of indoctrinated young women that have been forced to imbibe and parrot destructive belief systems for 3 – 4 years in female dominated humanities. The gulf this is creating between young men and women is very sad for both. Miserable incels and unhappy women who can’t find people who share their values to have families abound. The men can travel and find mates from more conservative cultures, the women struggle more and frequently end up going it alone with govt as surrogate mates (or just stay childless)
It’s not going to get better until we dismantle the radical-seeking aspect of university advancement. Possibly just stop funding humanities studies altogether or impose political balance in staffing choices. The problem is creeping into law now too with almost 2:1 female:male and inevitable leftward swing that will create.
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HILARIOUS New Ad Perfectly Mocks Liberal Insanity
https://rumble.com/v1gl26j-hilarious-new-ad-perfectly-mocks-liberal-insanity.html
We need to go back to the old days when we didn’t mollycoddle kids:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbgf26WOMtg
😆🙃😁🙃
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The worst outcome of mollycoddled children is you cant discuss anything they disagree with. If you do they tend to lose control of their emotions. I see kids around here as Gestapo. When they’re around I try and shut my mouth.
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Belated hat tip added to you John in the post for the De Santis Ad. Thank you.
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I would say chemical exposure
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/beauty/article-1229275/Revealed–515-chemicals-women-bodies-day.html
Revealed… the 515 chemicals women put on their bodies every day
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10620077/Girls-exposed-gender-bending-chemical-likely-asthma-study-claims.html
Girls exposed to a ‘gender-bending’ chemical – often used in reusable water bottles – in the womb are more likely to have asthma, study claims
Bisphenol A is used widely in the manufacture of food and drink containers
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2281394/Poisoned-day-life-Landmark-study-warns-gender-bending-chemicals-home-food-car-ARE-linked-huge-range-diseases.html
Poisoned by every day life: Landmark study warns gender bending chemicals in your home, food and car ARE linked to a huge range of diseases
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1092726/Gender-bending-chemicals-putting-future-risk.html
They say wild animals are being ‘feminised’ by a host of common man-made pollutants which mimic the female sex hormone oestrogen and escape into seas, rivers, the earth and air when waste is disposed of.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mJfxryPhw0
Scientists SHOCKED That “Gender Bending” Chemicals IN OUR FOOD 44 Times HIGHER Than Thought
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Aloha! Be liberal. Be socialist. Be marxist. Be democrat. Its all the same. Going back to the 1940s a very important economist got political. One would not think politics has anything to do with economics or free market capitalism or free speech, but in 1944 the alarm was rung.
The champions of socialism call themselves progressives, but they recommend a system which is characterized by rigid observance of routine and by a resistance to every kind of improvement. They call themselves liberals, but they are intent upon abolishing liberty. They call themselves democrats, but they yearn for dictatorship. They call themselves revolutionaries, but they want to make the government omnipotent. They promise the blessings of the Garden of Eden, but they plan to transform the world into a gigantic post office. Every man but one a subordinate clerk in a bureau. What an alluring utopia! What a noble cause to fight! -Ludwig Von Mises Bureaucracy 1944
About all thats missing from this 1944 book Bureaucracy is the Build Back Better chapter. Orwell gets a lot of credit but this guy deserves some major recognition. His book Planned Chaos is a fantastic book on the war against capitalism, written in 1949.
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THE ORWELLIAN LANGUAGE OF SEX
The gender hysteria that has afflicted the Left, and taken over most of our institutions, seems incomprehensible. Frankly, it strikes me as demonic. It can’t be explained by the motives of money and power that usually account for liberals’ behavior. It begins with the false claim that there is something called “gender” which is different from sex, i.e. genitalia and X and Y chromosomes. From this false premise–in fact, “gender” is simply a slightly more genteel word for sex–the ideology spirals into sheer insanity.
For example:
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[…] Political Correctness is for girls — the bubble of Woke has a grip on young women […]
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Women seem very sensitive to being socially acceptable. If ‘new wave feminism’ is the fashion then they will follow it to their demise if necessary.
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Deano, women have no chance of defending themselves again any male virtually over 14. So their defenses are being able to network, cooperate, read body language to see trouble coming, talk their way out of trouble, and laugh at his jokes.
Some men use these techniques too. But obviously the bell-curve of skills is different for men and women, and there are virtually no women with a back up plan of outrunning or outfighting a male that wants to control them.
Words and Cooperative groups are female weapons.
Being ostracized from a group is deadly for both men and women, but it’s more deadly for women.
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You’ve stirred up a hornet’s nest Jo, but there are many of us who are glad you did. It’s the proverbial elephant in the living room that many of us have been thinking about for some time. Thinking, not talking, because you don’t dare say these things out loud.
My Road to Damascus moment came a few years ago, when an intelligent, capable young woman I knew and liked made an astonishing observation, which revealed a world view completely at odds with reality as I understood it. I realized that her way of thinking had pretty much become the norm among her cohort. Here and there a few males even bought into it.
I wrote about it here.
http://www.computermedicaustin.com/2016/03/myths-and-realities/
These aren’t just harmless behavioral fads. We’re rushing to build a civilization on rotten philosophical foundations, and sooner or later it’s all going to come crashing down if we don’t get a grip.
Nature knows what she’s doing. Let’s just follow her cues and we’ll be fine.
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Great article; agree entirely!
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The govt is liberal, the liberal governments are by far the biggest employers in the country. Women want money.. When the country goes repub they will work for them..
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This has been going on far longer than 6 years. I’m 58 and it’s been going on for my entire life. Women are either helpless or they’re feminist. I’m neither but was raised by a Mom who preferred to have a man’s help whenever possible (especially with physical lifting, etc.) but is sharp as a tack mentally. She’s not a feminist but was an Army wife/mother and ran a household and raised a family most often without any help other than the paycheck.
Feminism ruined the minds of young women — we were told that we are a man’s equal in all ways physical and mental. No excuses for not raising a family while aggressively trying to conquer the business world! The problem was that most men did NOT do that. It was always a partnership of complementary skills and desires. Feminism then turned to victimhood when (shock and surprise!) men didn’t obey when we said “No” during a sexual encounter. But… aren’t we equals? No – you are not the physical equal of a man no matter what feminists told you, Karen. Try to stop a man who is not taking “no” for an answer and you’ll find that the 2nd Amendment is what makes you most equal.
As a Conservative woman who was young and stupid once as a young girl, I have always resented the Feminists. They ruined the hopes and dreams of a lot of us girls born in the 1960s. Thank God that some of them are waking up to it now… slowly but surely it will happen.
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Wow, love the hate for women y’all.
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On the chart, notice the extreme drop-off in support for Political Correctness among women at older ages. Can’t tell if this is a generational thing…ie, the currently-PC young women will still think that way at 40…or an age thing…the current PC crew will become less-so as they got older and partly out from under the influence of the fashion-chasing herd.
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Kevin Kilty…”call me sexist but I have observed 50+ years of trying to coax young women into various engineering and physical science fields with spotty results.” Thinking of two women I know, one who started as a programmer and the other as an applied mathematician. Both of them switched into business-to-business sales & sales management, focusing on selling complex technical products into complex organizations. Some people would think this is bad, I guess, but there’s really no reason to create the products unless there’s somebody to sell them.
Another woman I was having a career discussion with: She had originally worked in a health care field, and was doing a brilliant job running a marketing effort for H/C-related software products (both specifying the product functionality and marketing the products to the dealers.) She said she really wanted to do something more ‘organic’, meaning, directly involved with patient care or medical/pharma research.
Looked her up,and I *think* she went the full-time mom route…yes, pretty organic!
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