Wednesday

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    another ian

    Hi Jo

    FWIW – rather than these “xxxday” threads –

    Have a look at Chiefio’s “Wood” threads which act as a combined tips and general discussion forum?

    E.g. https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2023/06/21/w-o-o-d-21-june-2023-the-thin-line-between-comfort-disaster/

    “This is another of the W.O.O.D. series of semi-regular Weekly Occasional Open Discussions. (i.e. if I forget and skip one, no big)”

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      John Hultquist

      E. M. sometimes only puts up a new post once or twice a week and the ‘wood’ series still opens with his ideas about a topic, or 2 or 3, that interest him.
      While Jo could provide a thought or several on things that catch her eye such would not be a lot different than now. Maybe you and other regulars can take turns on being the 1st to comment and set the conversation in motion.
      Start each of these with a bolded: What’s bothering me today

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    David Maddison

    I like Ogden Nash poetry but it doesn’t seem very popular these days.

    Why do you think that is?

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      Skepticynic

      Because:
      There once was a fellow named Nash
      He could write funny poems in a flash
      But some of the time
      The truth of the rhyme
      Could give the poor subject a rash.

      Edit: also because people are allergic to the truth these days.

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        Bruce

        See also:

        There was a young bedroom amateur,
        Possessing impressive diameter.
        But it wasn’t the size,
        That widened their eyes,
        But the rhythm,
        Trochaic Pentameter.

        Or something like that…..

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        I find it very difficult to enthuse
        Over the current news.
        Just when you think that at least the outlook is so black that
        it can grow no blacker, it worsens,
        And that is why I do not like the news, because there has never been
        an era when so many things were going so right for so many of the wrong persons.

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          Saighdear

          🙂 had to re – read your little ditty, to see if it was actually a poem!
          “an era when so many things were going so right for so many of the wrong persons.”
          I heartily agree, so I’m goin hoim.

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      william x

      DM, Imho, poetry that is humerous and cutting has become an ancient art. Just like what has happened to true comedy.
      Why? I believe it is because it challenges authority and makes one smile and think…. and we all know that authority does not like that.

      Yet we are lucky that we have someone in the same vein as Nash,
      one that frequently posts poetry here on this blog with wit and humour.

      That person is: Ruairi

      Cutting edge poetry is not lost yet… I’ll also have a go at it.

      Two birds flew on by
      Thru the machine built in the sky
      The blades swept true and fast
      And only one would live and last.

      Hmmm… on second thoughts, I’ll leave the poetry to Ruairi.

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      Graeme+P.

      Ogden…. reminds of the actor who played Charles Emerson Winchester the Third. Without cheating, anyone remember his name?

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    Sambar

    Interesting outcome in the Greek elections with the centre right winning a majority vote.
    Subsequently read an article claiming that the rise of both the centre right and the far right was a threat to democracy. Makes you wonder ( not really) about what journalists know of history or language.

    Demos:– Greek meaning the people..

    So what we have is a threat to democracy by the very people that democracy is based on, you know, the general public.
    The situation is absolutely laughable. The Greek centre right party wins the majority of the vote, over 40%. It gets this majority because the people, DEMOS, voted for it in the very home of the whole concept of democracy.
    It appears that the real threat is letting the bloody plebs have the vote!

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiMvuzCy-X_AhVed2wGHVC3AGgQFnoECBEQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fworld-europe-65997486&usg=AOvVaw0q1qot4CWEY-NEa9qlaMMo&opi=89978449

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      Graeme No.3

      Also Sweden. Finland and Italy have installed ‘hard right’ parties. Both Poland and Hungary have reelected governments that the EU bureaucrats don’t like. France looks likely to follow and The Netherlands (if the WOKE try to destroy one of the major industries). And AfD has won a minor victory in Germany.
      It seems higher prices, higher taxes, reduced living standards, and blackouts aren’t that popular with the general public.
      What are the bookies odds on Dutton?

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        Hanrahan

        What are the bookies odds on Dutton?

        Not too good. Australia is one giant “Stockholm”, just look at Vic and Qld, just LUV being used and abused.

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          yarpos

          True. Its weird to live among some of them. They have whipped themselves up to a perpwtually fearful state awaiting the next directive from on high. Meanwhile life goes on for most.

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Banned on YouTube – So You Know It Is Right – Vexxine ”

    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2023/06/28/banned-on-youtube-so-you-know-it-is-right-vexxine/

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    Peter C

    Does anyone know how to get the results from RAVAN?
    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2017/mission-success-ravan-cubesat-measures-earth-s-outgoing-energy

    David Evans said in his post from 2015 that RAVAN data would resolve a lot of the arguments about whether CO2 can contribute to keeping the Earth warm and by how much.
    https://joannenova.com.au/2015/10/new-science-15-modeling-outgoing-radiation-olr/

    The RAVAN satellite was apparently launched successfully in 2016. I have not heard anything about it. NASA say it will make a contribution to understanding global warming, but as far as I know they have not announced anything.
    I probably not know how to interpret the data but David Evans might.

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      KP

      “Four radiometers, two gallium cells, and associated electronics were fit within a 1U payload accommodated on Blue Canyon Technologies’ first complete bus in space. The path to space was anything but linear, and several challenges had to be overcome before and after launch, but the radiometers ultimately showed excellent long-term stability over the course of the mission. Short-term variability—at greater than the tenths-of-a-watt/m2 needed for climate accuracy—is a challenge that remains, consistent with insufficient thermal knowledge and control on a 3U CubeSat. Technologies demonstrated by RAVAN have flown on subsequent missions, and RAVAN is an important benchmark for the development of science-grade Earth energy budget instruments on small satellite platforms.

      Speaker: Dr. William H. Swartz, Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory Wednesday, March 16, 2022
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmhwrMeqy-c

      https://www.nasa.gov/smallsat-institute/RAVAN-mission-overview

      “RAVAN will be launched into a 600 km altitude, 98.8 deg inclination orbit and spacecraft disposal is
      accomplished through atmospheric reentry. The spacecraft is estimated to reenter in 7.2 years and is
      compliant with the requirement to reenter within 25 years after mission completion or 30 years after
      launch.”

      Looks like all about the satellite but nothing about the experimental results. They obviously didn’t get results that matched the narrative..

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      mundi

      RAVAN was a tiny cube satellite designed to fly for 18 months. It was a basically a complete failure..

      It was meant to measure ingoing vs outgoging radiation down to a difference of 0.1% to be able to ‘see’ global warming. In the end it only achieved +/-0.5% on primary and +/-2% on secondary, both of which are basically useless.

      It had a memory bus failure which meant it could only download instantenous data when it happened to be in radio range which means 95% of the data was lost.

      It was really just a proof of concept to get another decade of funding. Last I heard they are on track to have 6 new cub-stats launching in 2026. Again these have a near zero chance of actually being able to measure global warming. But it will sent themselves up for another decade of funding and another crack around 2035 probably with a constellation of cube sats.

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        Peter C

        Thanks KP and Mundi.

        I suppose that means that RAVAN has crashed by now and that the data has not been released.

        They (NASA) were attempting to show that the Earth is getting more energy in than goes out, which would be needed if the temperature were continually going up.
        The Earth temperature is not going up so it is no surprise that the results are kept quiet.

        RAVAN was surprised to measure emissions over a wide range of wavelengths which might have resolved some of the arguments about whether CO2 is a warming gas, or a cooling gas or has absolutely no effect.

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          Peter C
          June 28, 2023 at 9:39 pm · …..
          The Earth temperature is not going up so it is no surprise that the results are kept quiet.

          If not, How has the planet emerged from the last ice age ?
          The question should be….. what is the CURRENT RATE of temperature change..if any .
          …..and,… what are the real mechanisms of any change of temperature.

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        Kalm Keith

        Well said Mundi 🙂

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      Kalm Keith

      Hi Peter,

      This is the “overall” plan of attack from the link.

      “Earth’s radiation imbalance, which is the difference between the amount of energy from the Sun that reaches Earth and the amount that is reflected and emitted back into space. That difference, estimated to be less than one percent, is responsible for global warming and climate change.”

      Right there, in that statement is the answer to what this quest is about.

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        Kalm Keith

        Amongst other things, it would be a massive job to identify every source that uses or reflects or sends back degraded energy to the nighttime cool of space.

        For example, how much of that inbound UV is used to build and knit together the vegetation, grass, food plants and timber?

        This analysis is not real; it’s an expensive joke.

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        Peter C

        Well one thing that they discovered was that they could not measure any difference. Once again the null hypothesis wins and global warming is a chimera. However they are not giving up because they do science backwards.

        It looks as though the black carbon nanotube radiation collectors do not give a spectral analysis of the outgoing radiation.

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        theotherross

        Is the 1% the anthropogenic contribution or total

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          Peter C

          RAVAN did not measure CO2. It was supposed to measure total radiation in and total radiation out,.

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    william x

    In answer. Imho, poetry that is humerous and cutting has become an ancient art. Just like what has happened to true comedy.
    Why? I believe it is because it challenges authority and makes one think…. and we all know that authority does not like that.

    Yet we are lucky that we have someone in the same vein as Nash,
    one that frequently posts poetry here on this blog with wit and humour.

    That person is: Ruairi

    Cutting edge poetry is not lost yet… I’ll also have a go at it.

    Two birds flew on by
    Thru the machine built in the sky
    The blades swept true and fast
    And only one would live and last.

    Hmmm… on second thoughts, I’ll leave the poetry to Ruairi.

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    Hanrahan

    “Just stop oil” streakers have invaded the pitch at Lords.

    Broad from the Media centre end. Although there is a hold up. Two streakers have run on. With orange powder paint. It’s a Just Stop Oil protest. One has been tackled to the ground. He didn’t get near a player. Jonny Bairstow literally picked up the other protester and carried him off the ground. Bairstow has left the ground to change as his whites have been soiled. The ground staff are out on the ground to clean up the paint residue. Broad and Warner are having a chat.

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      Broadie

      Question?
      Why did Bairstow stop at that?
      Should he have continued and carried the whole Woke Aussie team out of the ground, skirts, smoking ceremonies and all?

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    David Maddison

    Here is the fascinating story of the Forestiere Underground Gardens in Fresno, California.

    It is an example of genuine microclimate and soil engineering to grow citrus on very bad land and in a suboptimal climate.

    It was all hand dug by an immigrant to America in the early 1900’s.

    Video: https://youtu.be/mUKRPoQKynk

    Website: https://undergroundgardens.com/

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    David Maddison

    News from “tolerant and diverse” Canada.

    A transgender “woman” playing rugby is sent off the field after injuring three actual women.

    Obviously the referee was a “transphobe”.

    This guy doesn’t even attempt to pretend to look like a woman. I was stunned when I saw his picture. Oh, did I just “misgender” him?

    The silence of the “feminists” and other Regressives is simply stunning.

    https://youtu.be/hgiptIm0ACE

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      Mantaray

      Women playing a man’s game are shafted by a man also playing a man’s game?

      Really, it’s not a man’s role to intervene to “help” the women. They are grown ups (ie not children) who should be defending themselves.

      Are they incapable of doing this?

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    red edwards

    And for a humorous answer to California’s housing shortage. . .

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/27/airbnb-is-offering-a-free-stay-at-barbies-malibu-dreamhouse.html

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      Kalm Keith

      Go Will. Some of it may be a bit “Willish”, but I like it.

      https://joannenova.com.au/2015/10/new-science-15-modeling-outgoing-radiation-olr/#comment-1759600

      🙂

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        Peter C

        Thanks,

        I did notice that there was a fairly intense and robust discussion of David’s post including some of the luminaries.

        Will Janoska’s argument is similar to mine concerning the environmental lapse rate. It is about 6.5C/km due to the change of state of water which combined with atmospheric overturning in the troposphere conducts heat upward, from where it is radiated away to space from the cloud tops and by the radiative gases.

        I have not yet have had time to read David’s post again carefully.

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          Kalm Keith

          Hi Peter,

          The big issue in thermodynamics is to clearly define the boundaries of the situation and it isn’t being done.

          Too often the debate, if we can call it that, descends into an analysis of things that are controlled by factors that are ignored.
          The main example is the transmission of energy between atoms in the atmosphere, certainly under certain conditions various mechanisms operated, but in the reality of the air they don’t exhibit that mode of “sharing.
          That’s just one there’s more.

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      Sadly, Will Janoschka is no longer with us.

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    OldOzzie

    “At night a candle’s brighter than the sun”

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    David Maddison

    Senator Babet (United Australia Party) questions Minister Wrong about Australian Government censorship of members of parliament and others and Australian Government requests for censorship to social(ist) media.

    https://youtu.be/vxod1DWEk2Avxod1DWEk2As

    7.5 mins

    The Australian Government agenda against what they call “misinformation” or “disinformation” (i.e. any information that doesn’t follow the Official Narrative) is clear.

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    David Maddison

    VIDEO | United Australia Party Senator for Victoria and UAP Parliamentary Leader, Senator Ralph Babet, appeared on Alexandra Marshall’s ADH TV program this week in what was a colourful interview covering many of the topics that remain untouched by mainstream media.

    https://youtu.be/q-5Xwc1vOMg

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    TdeF

    Seeing the nutty behaviour of the Just Stop Oil protesters, you have to wonder after yesterday’s graph if they have the other shirts printed already.

    Just stop Gas
    Just stop Coal
    Just stop Wood

    and don’t forget

    Just stop Nuclear. (Even though the new story is that nuclear is emissions free? Which is a really strange statement.)

    then

    Just stop Dams (hydro)
    Just stop animals sheep and cattle and pigs and goats but cats and dogs are fine as long as they are vegetarians.
    Just stop tractors and trucks and ships and planes and cars
    Just stop termites
    Just top breathing

    *Except for China and India and Indonesia and Nigeria and Pakistan and Asia and South America and Africa and Russia and all the Stans and Korea

    It was also notable in the last Test and this one that in the middle of a British summer, there is no problem.

    It seems only summer is the problem with oil, gas, coal and wood. But I am sure even they would like a warmer winter.
    Lovely weather for protesting though. Saving the planet and all that, if they can only get Smith out.

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    H P

    North Korea is really winning then, since they seem to have stopped almost everything already, and in some cases that includes breathing. Can we send the Just Stop Oil people over there?

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    John Connor II

    Days late now, but the NAB banking issue hit all major banks simultaneously but not the smaller ones.
    Why wasn’t that reported?

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    John Connor II

    Debris from doomed Titan sub – including nose with porthole for Titanic Five to view wreck

    Debris from the Titan submersible that imploded on the bottom of the Atlantic as it tried to reach the wreckage of the Titanic has been hauled ashore.

    The huge chunks of metal, including the nose with the porthole the five men would have used to see the Titanic, were unloaded from the Horizon Arctic ship at the Canadian Coast Guard pier in St John’s, Newfoundland, Canada, this morning.

    They were quickly covered in large tarpaulins before being lifted by cranes on to trucks that took them away for assessment. The pieces included a large, white section of curved metal. Another object was full of cables and other mechanical parts.

    Some of the sections which were pulled up appear to be parts of the sub’s external cover and its landing frame, which were reportedly among the first bits of Titan debris which were discovered.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12243189/Mangled-debris-Titan-sub-hauled-ashore-Canada.html

    Looks more shattered (as I predicted) rather than imploded…

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    John Connor II

    Biden has lost the plot.

    https://twitter.com/DrewHLive/status/1674121777541423105/

    How much longer before they have to cancel all public meetings and resort to deep fake videos?

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    John Connor II

    IV therapy craze has Americans pumping vitamins into their veins: Results are ‘pretty dramatic’

    While IV drip therapy has gained popularity as a trendy hangover cure and health trend, the practice of fueling the body with essential vitamins faster than an ingestible can has been around for decades.

    IV clinic owners Dr. Pauline Jose (PH Drip Lab in California) and Dr. Christopher Neary (Prime IV, which has franchises around the country) shared with Fox News Digital the types of vitamin cocktails they’ve been serving up of late.

    Dr. Jose, based in California, revealed that about 50% of the national population is deficient in some type of vitamin, which means there’s been a major demand in the supplement industry.
    When you take something orally, it’s not always absorbed 100%,” she said. “When you do it either intramuscularly or intravenously, through the vein, it’s absorbed almost 100%.”

    “What we’re doing is allowing high, targeted levels of nutrients to be delivered into the cells of the body without interference or issues with the digestive system,” he said.

    https://www.foxnews.com/health/iv-therapy-craze-americans-pumping-vitamins-veins-results-pretty-dramatic

    Where to start on this silly Hollywood fad…

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    John Connor II

    Suncor Energy cyberattack impacts Petro-Canada gas stations

    Petro-Canada gas stations across Canada are impacted by technical problems preventing customers from paying with credit card or rewards points as its parent company, Suncor Energy, discloses they suffered a cyberattack.

    Suncor Energy is the 48th-largest public company in the world, and one of Canada’s largest synthetic crude producers, having an annual revenue of $31 billion.

    The company says it has taken measures to mitigate the attack and informed the authorities of the situation. At the same time, it expects transactions with customers and suppliers to be negatively impacted until the incident is resolved.

    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/suncor-energy-cyberattack-impacts-petro-canada-gas-stations/

    People don’t seem to grasp that a digital economy creates never ending threats and shutdown risks, and of course a push button reset-all-accounts-to-zero potential…

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      John Connor II

      EncroChat takedown led to 6,500 arrests and $979 million seized

      Europol announced today that the takedown of the EncroChat encrypted mobile communications platform has led to the arrest of over 6,600 people and the seizure of $979 million in illicit funds.

      EncroChat phones ran a special, hardened version of Android that promised users unbreakable encryption, anonymity, and no traceability.

      The service also provided message self-destruction features, panic device wipe, tamper-proofing booting, and a brute force resistant FIPS 140-2 certified hardware cryptographic engine.

      These features were valued by criminals who wanted to communicate securely, so tens of thousands paid €1,500 ($1,635) for a six-month subscription with global coverage and 24/7 support.

      In 2020, a large-scale European law enforcement operation quietly infiltrated the EncroChat platform and was able to analyze millions of messages shared between its users after breaking the encryption algorithm.

      Since then, police units in France and the Netherlands working in coordination with their peers in other countries have arrested 6,558 individuals, users of EncroChat, including 197 high-value targets.

      This was made possible thanks to the analysis of 115 million conversations between roughly 60,000 users of the platform.

      Utilizing this data, the police managed to locate and seize 270 tons of drugs, 971 vehicles, 271 properties, 923 weapons, 68 explosives, 40 planes, and 83 boats.

      Additionally, law enforcement agents sized €740 million ($807 million) in cash and froze another €154 million ($168 million).

      https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/encrochat-takedown-led-to-6-500-arrests-and-979-million-seized/

      Unbreakable, secure, untraceable…
      Yep.

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      Sambar

      And minor flood watch for our area. Oh what to do? Believe the BoM and keep the big lake up the road at near capacity ( currently about 98% ) in case the weather suddenly warms and dries or try and make capacity in case the weather stays wet and cold.
      Time for that old tautology, caught on the horns of a dilemma

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        Annie

        Daughter reports about 8 inches of rain in home area! Yuk…tempted to stay in Dubai (42.5C yesterday afternoon, didn’t check any other time). The big lake near us is far too full for the time of year.

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          Sambar

          Stay there Annie. Regardless of what the BoM predict I can tell you first hand, cold and wet. More rain expected over the next few days with one day next week expected to “be warm and dry”. The low paddocks are all water logged and all billabongs are full to overflowing. On the bright side it will once again be a bumper season for ducks!

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    John Connor II

    Three Typhoon Jets Landed Next to Thermometer When Britain’s ‘Record’ Temperature of 40.3°C Was Recorded

    At least three Typhoon fighter jets were landing at RAF Coningsby around the time when the brief U.K. temperature record was declared at 15:12 on July 19th last year from a measuring device situated halfway down the runway. Following a Freedom of Information request, the Daily Sceptic has obtained portions of the log books of four pilots flying from the base that afternoon, casting considerable doubt on the record that made headlines around the world.

    At 15:10, the temperature suddenly jumped by 0.6°C to hit the 40.3°C record at 15.12. Within 60 seconds, the record temperature dropped back by 0.6°C. At the time, the Met Office claimed that verifying the record had been a “rigorous process” and that all data was accurate.

    https://dailysceptic.org/2023/06/28/exclusive-three-typhoon-jets-landed-next-to-measuring-device-when-britains-record-temperature-of-40-3c-was-recorded/

    LOL…

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    Mulling over the revelation from a few days ago, that P Fitzroy has made 4400 contributions to this site. I reckon that’s a big win for feelings over facts. He’s been exposed to all the arguments, and it hasn’t moved him. Abuse can be yelled, and rational arguments just won’t cut it. It’s easy to clutch other alternate studies to the bosom.
    What else can be said, except let’s see how reality pans out.
    I’m leaning a bit philosophical – we can have every dream become reality, every thing just perfect, but it is never the end, things will go on………. Changing.
    “There is a season”. And entropy has a heavy finger on the scales.

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