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Pyramids built by hydraulic lift system
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1932278/eqypt-new-discovery-pyramids-built
Possible if you bear in mind that rivers once flowed round the Pyramids. I read years ago that some of the very heavy temple doors were opened by steam driven devices
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I much prefer the theory of Jean-Pierre Houdin of a circumferential ramp plus the use of the Grand Gallery and recently discovered void as a location of pulley and counterweights to raise the stones.
https://youtu.be/G9OhJAasatM
https://youtu.be/_JlnMs616Z0
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But like any hydraulic system, it’s only as good as its seals, and lifting 100 ton blocks seems implausible at best.
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I always likes this approach – Land Of The Pharaohs (1955) – Robber-proof Tomb
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FWIW
https://www.etsy.com/listing/993027324/pharaohs-pump-by-edward-j-kunkel-signed
https://www.thepump.org/
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Space aliens with anti-gravity and stone cutting abilities.
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cO2 doesn’t cause warming
https://slaynews.com/news/claims-carbon-emissions-cause-global-warming-false-study-finds/
Trouble is that no one who actually has power to do anything won’t even read reports such as this, let alone take any notice of the findings.
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Net Isotopic Signature of Atmospheric CO2 Sources and Sinks: No Change since the Little Ice Age
Koutsoyiannis (2024)
https://www.mdpi.com/2413-4155/6/1/17
On Hens, Eggs, Temperatures and CO2: Causal Links in Earth’s Atmosphere
Demetris Koutsoyiannis, Christian Onof, Zbigniew W. Kundzewicz, and Antonis Christofides (2023)
https://www.mdpi.com/2413-4155/5/3/35
Revisiting the greenhouse effect – a hydrological perspective
Koutsoyiannis and Vournas (2023)
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02626667.2023.2287047
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From C13 based on slightly preferred absorption in photosynthesis of lighter C12 producing a difference in C13/C12 betweeen atmosphere, ocean and plants.
1 From modern instrumental carbon isotopic data of the last 40 years, no signs of human (fossil fuel) CO2 emissions can be discerned;
2 Proxy data since the Little Ice Age suggest that the modern period of instrumental data does not differ, in terms of the net isotopic signature of atmospheric CO2 sources and sinks, from earlier centuries.
In fact you can show that the only source for the decrease in C13 is from the ocean. If it was from fossil fuel, the decrease would be much greater.
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And I have stated for years that C14 is an absolute measure of fossil fuel CO2 as all CO2 has C14 except fossil fuel. The dilution is only 3.0%. In 1958 it was 2.03%. There is no fossil fuel CO2 in the air and what is there is in rapid transit to the vast oceans. Made CO2 driven Global Warming falls at the first statement, as shown conclusively 66 years ago.
CO2 levels are just vapour pressure of a dissolved gas. Heat the ocean slightly and CO2 goes up. Everyone knows that. Only Al Gore could argue that increased CO2 is heating the oceans and dangerously. But Al Gore needed a scare in 1988 when he ran for President the first time. All candidates need a problem only they can fix. And the UN loved it. Of course the UN was an American creation and they still pay for it.
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It is still promoting some nonsense of a “greenhouse effect”. That is the fundamental belief of the climate religion and the authors play along.
A belief in the “greenhouse effect” is like the belief in a god. It can be whatever you want it to be because it has no physical meaning.
Earth’s open ocean surface temperature is regulated to 30C. No open ocean surface can sustain a temperature above that level. Right now, cyclone Debby is clear proof of what happens when the temperature reaches that level. Convective instability ensues to limit further rise. In the case of Debby, the convective potential produced a self-sustaining convective storm that will rip at least 3C out of the surface temperature of the ocean it passes over.
Oceans warm land because of their ability to retain heat so the ocean temperature limit limits the temperature of the land but not by the same precise mechanism unless the land has lots of retained moisture like the Amazon.
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Rick >It is still promoting some nonsense of a “greenhouse effect”.
How much did you read?
Revisiting the greenhouse effect – a hydrological perspective
Koutsoyiannis and Vournas (2023)
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02626667.2023.2287047
ABSTRACT
In other words, the greenhouse effect is actually a water vapour effect.
Zero water vapour, or close to it like the Sahara Desert or Antarctica – minimal greenhouse effect.
Sunday comment from Ronin – next
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Not just me. From Sunday:
Ronin August 4, 2024 at 9:24 am
Also, from downthread #7.1.1 (see link trail for background):
WV does the heavy lifting, CO2 is a bit player.
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Have you by any chance found a formal scientific definition of “greenhouse effect” or of “greenhouse gas”. When I looked some time back the nearest I found seemed circular.
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David >Have you by any chance found a formal scientific definition of “greenhouse effect” or of “greenhouse gas”
Which do you want?
NOAA, NASA, Britannica, National Geographic, Wikipedia?
All within easy reach on the internet.
IPCC aligned CO2-Centric scientific paper?
I can give you that but only the Abstract (paywalled):
Greenhouse effect and climate change: scientific basis and overview
P.C. Jain (1993)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/096014819390108S
Alternate Gravito-Thermal greenhouse effect?
See next.
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Gravito-Thermal greenhouse effect
The Greenhouse Equation
See links to:
See Equation
Where:
T = temperature at height (s) meters above the surface, thus at the surface s = 0
s = height in meters above the surface to calculate the temperature T, thus at the surface s=0
S = the solar constant = 1367 W/m2, derivation here
ε = emissivity = 1 assuming Sun and Earth are blackbodies
σ = the Stefan-Boltzmann constant = 5.6704 x 10-8 W m-2 K-4
g = gravitational acceleration = 9.8 m/s^2
m = average molar mass of the atmosphere = 29g/mole = 0.029kg/mole
α = albedo = 0.3 for earth
C = Cp = the heat capacity of the atmosphere at constant pressure, ~ 1.5077 average for Earth
P = surface pressure in the unit atmospheres, defined as = 1 atmosphere for latitude of Paris
R = universal gas constant = 8.3145 J/mol K
e = the base of the natural logarithm, approximately equal to 2.71828
More next:
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Debunking Myths & Strawmen about the Gravito-Thermal Greenhouse Effect & Radiative Greenhouse Effect
https://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2014/12/debunking-myths-strawmen-about-gravito.html
This is in lieu of constantly repeating information in responses to new comments here & elsewhere, to link to the numbered list below referring to a specific post which addresses the argument in question for or against the two competing 33C greenhouse effect theories (because one and only one of these greenhouse theories can be correct, otherwise Earth would be at least 33C warmer than present):
Selected items next.
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Selected items from index:
Debunking Myths & Strawmen about the Gravito-Thermal Greenhouse Effect & Radiative Greenhouse Effect
https://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2014/12/debunking-myths-strawmen-about-gravito.html
2] How Gravity continuously does Thermodynamic Work on the atmosphere to control pressure & temperature
3] Why Greenhouse Gases Don’t Affect the Greenhouse Equation or Lapse Rate (debunks claim that greenhouse gases are necessary for convection or a lapse rate to occur or that greenhouse gas radiative forcing can affect the lapse rate)
6] Why the atmosphere is in horizontal thermodynamic equilibrium but not vertical equilibrium (debunks claims that the gravito-thermal greenhouse effect assumes thermodynamic equilibrium in all three x, y, and z planes).
7] The Greenhouse Equation predicts temperatures within 0.02°C throughout entire troposphere without radiative forcing from greenhouse gases
7] The Greenhouse Equation predicts temperatures within 0.02°C throughout entire troposphere without radiative forcing from greenhouse gases
8] Why increased water vapor decreases the lapse rate by half to cause surface cooling of up to 25.5C
9] Derivation of the effective radiating height & entire 33°C greenhouse effect without radiative forcing from greenhouse gases
10] Derivation of the entire 33°C greenhouse effect without radiative forcing from greenhouse gases
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2 comments hung up in moderation but from THS ‘Debunking Myths & Strawmen about the Gravito-Thermal Greenhouse Effect & Radiative Greenhouse Effect’ in respect to this:
1) The Arrhenius radiative greenhouse effect theory (the catastrophic man-made CO2 global warming theory)
vs.
2) The Maxwell gravito-thermal greenhouse effect theory
Astute readers will note:
1) Only “explains” the surface temperature.
2) Reproduces the temperature from surface right up through the troposphere.
Replication is the essence of science.
Ergo,
1) Is NOT science.
2) Is science.
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Missing link @ #2.2.1.2.1:
The Greenhouse Equation
http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2014/11/the-greenhouse-equation.html
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Exactly. That’s the mechanism behind every hoax that has ever been dressed up in superficially scientific language. Impressive terms like phlogiston, infinity, fiat currency or artificial intelligence that are meant to be accepted as axiomatic. They can’t be disproved because there’s nothing there to see or touch.
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Its unfalsifiable and they can’t measure how much CO2 is going into the oceans.
‘A new study reveals the limit of the greenhouse gas-induced longwave radiative impact extends only to the ~10 μm (0.01 mm) skin layer – the ocean-air interface – and no deeper.
‘Determining the sea surface temperature (SST) variation at this skin depth is critical to any attempt to quantify or calculate the impact of greenhouse gases like CO2 on ocean temperatures. Yet scientists admit such temperature variations are “impossible” to measure at this depth.’ (Notrickszone)
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>‘A new study reveals the limit of the greenhouse gas-induced longwave radiative impact extends only to the ~10 μm (0.01 mm) skin layer
Been known for yonks:
Cool-skin and warm-layer effects on sea surface temperature
Fairall et al (1996)
[PDF]
2.1. Cool Skin Background
Also,
Optical Absorption of Water Compendium
https://omlc.org/spectra/water/abs/
Optical constants of water in the 200 nm to 200 µm wavelength region
Hale & Querry (1973) [Figure]
https://omlc.org/spectra/water/gif/hale73.gif
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>New Study: CO2 Effects On Ocean Temps ‘Impossible’ To Measure…Must Be ‘Schemed’ With Models
Skin sea surface temperature schemes in coupled ocean–atmosphere modelling: the impact of chlorophyll-interactive e-folding depth
Vincenzo de Toma et al. (2024)
https://gmd.copernicus.org/articles/17/5145/2024/
References
Fairall, C., Bradley, E. F., Godfrey, J., Wick, G., Edson, J. B., and Young, G.: Cool-skin and warm-layer effects on Sea Surface Temperature, J. Geophys. Res.-Oceans, 101, 1295–1308, 1996.
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New Study: CO2 Effects On Ocean Temps ‘Impossible’ To Measure…Must Be ‘Schemed’ With Models
By Kenneth Richard on 6. August 2024
https://notrickszone.com/2024/08/06/new-study-co2-effects-on-ocean-temps-impossible-to-measure-must-be-schemed-with-models/
Downthread #7, Me:
I rest my case.
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I am sure we can all agree with this
https://nypost.com/2024/08/04/us-news/nancy-pelosi-says-us-should-add-biden-to-mount-rushmore/
Whilst the chiselers are working on new images perhaps they could add Michael Mann and Al Gore. Anyone think of other very worthy people that could be immortalised? Developers of Covid vaccines. The entire cast of the IPCC? So very many worthy people.
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Storage has nothing to do with approving nuclear power.
Is the future of nuclear power in the wilds of Wyoming?
By David Wojick
https://www.cfact.org/2024/08/05/is-the-future-of-nuclear-power-in-the-wilds-of-wyoming/
The beginning: “It is early days, but the nuclear future looms large for Wyoming and the world. To nuke or not to nuke; that is the question.
Many of my readers will have heard of Small Modular Reactors (SMR), which are the hoped-for future of nuclear power. The very first U.S. application for an SMR has been filed with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), and it is in western Wyoming, about as far away from everybody as you can get and still be in America. It is called the Natrium Plant near Kemmerer, Wyoming. By a wonderful coincidence, Kemmerer is named after a Pennsylvania coal baron and 70 years ago, was the world’s biggest open-pit coal mine. Maybe they can do for nuclear what they did for coal.
At 345 MW, the proposed plant is a normal SMR. Unfortunately, they have thrown in storage capacity which makes it complicated. In fact, there seems to be an important bit of confusion here. The applicant is Terrapower, and they say the nuke plus storage runs 500 MW. But NRC says it is an 850 MW project. In either case, NRC seems to be going “outside the fence,” as they say. They are asking for comments on the scope of the coming environmental impact assessment.
See https://www.regulations.gov/document/NRC-2024-0078-0006
It looks like the NRC are including the storage facility in their EIS. According to Terrapower: “The project features a 345 MW sodium-cooled fast reactor with a molten salt-based energy storage system.” I have no idea what a molten salt-based energy storage system is, but neither does the NRC. The point is that this is none of their business. It should not be part of their environmental assessment, as I am sure it would take them ten years or more to get up to speed on this storage technology. If Terrapower wanted to fill the surrounding rangeland area with truckload-sized Tesla battery packs to store the power for when the wind does not blow or the sun shine, that has nothing to do with the approval of this small nuke.”
Lots more in the article. Please share it.
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However, that is a Bill Gates project and the whole thing is about replacing coal power. It’s a project designed to prevent replacing the old coal facility with a modern high efficiency clean coal facility.
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Note I take no position. My point is about the scope of NRC review and regulatory confusion which is an ancient field of mine. http://www.stemed.info/engineer_tackles_confusion.html
I will file this article as a comment. All those comments for and against are ridiculous in this narrow case.
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Yeah, there’s a great number of wind farms close to there. Most of the turbines are 15 to 20 years old. Last I knew they have never been hooked up to the grid. Just chopping birds. It’s mostly Federal Gov land and they have never been able to get the permits and EIS’s through to build the transmission infrastructure across the Fed controlled lands. So that might be what this is really about.
Net Zero Jobs in all those years. Maintenance workers fly in from Europe. Well, the local concrete company has made a mint.
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Do these great number not sell their power?
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Last I heard, no. The problem as I understand it is the transmission lines for all these scattered about wind farms. I don’t think they have some kind of a Tesla wireless power transmission system up and working. But maybe I haven’t got the latest scuttlebutt. Buried cable might be in partial use, but it would be rather diffuse and there’s no central station with access to the grid that I’m aware of. If they fast tracked an extensive buried cable network, though the mountains of paper work, it makes it more difficult to justify bogging down pipelines in red tape. So maybe a big battery park close by, using the old power plant’s infrastructure to the grid, might be what they are really trying to push through, by attaching it to the nuke’s red tape?
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How have they been operating if they cannot sell the power? They have no revenue.
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True, but in the world of subsidies, it’s not always necessary. In a free market no W or S energy scheme could survive.
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Re Saturday’s: “Wholesale Electricity prices hit $17,000 in five states in Australia –Renewable fans blame a lack of coal power”
People should understand that almost noone pays these type of prices. It is only the poor saps that have decided to go “naked” into the market and who would cut themselves off if this happened at all. Most retailers, and hence customers, are protected by “contracts for differenes” and although they may pay the pool price, they are reimbursed the difference between this and their contracted price. So why have these ridiculously prices at all? you may ask.
Well they are a signal to the market that there is a severe lack of generating capacity and that the lights going out is imminent. Prospective generators may take this to mean that it is time to invest in generating capacity. And in a free and fair maket this would be correct. The reality is the AEMO has allowed the market to be corrupted by giving in to the demands for market rule changes of many players seeking their own advantage, least of all governments. For them subsidies of all types are paid for by AEMO rather than from government budget, which is how it should work.
How long can such a corrupt system last? …..Until the lights do go out. This is where Minister Bowen is taking us and most people are oblivios to it!
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I am someone who has taken Z-Stack religously for 4 years. No sniffle or sneezes at all during that time and no vaccinations. Yet over the last few days I have contracted a severe case of Influenza. Slowly getting over it. What’s going on? I live in Melbourne.
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Only a few hours to go before we are blessed with the wisdom of airbus Albo and dim Charmer’s take on the current world stock market shenanigans. Further thoughts, think I’ll sleep in.
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The Department of Health has identified an outbreak of Legionnaires’ disease (also known as Legionellosis) with significant increase in the numbers of cases across multiple locations in metropolitan Melbourne since 26 July 2024.
https://www.health.vic.gov.au/health-alerts/outbreak-of-legionnaires-disease-in-metropolitan-melbourne
Can have symptoms similar to the flu but can be fatal . If not improving see your Dr .
Mostly comes from poorly maintained cooling towers .
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It’s estimated we catch a real influenza once every five or ten years. Then there is metapnumovirus which hospitalizes nearly as many people as influenza.
Luckily for us some of the antiviral nature of Ivm may also be useful against influenza. While viruses are different, some of them use common pathways and enzymes of ours, so some anti-virals are useful against more than one virus.
As always Vitamin D, A and Zn are good for acute infections.
As Another Delcon says, Legionnaires is ghastly, so if you are in Melbourne, I’d read a few news stories just to make sure you were not visiting the same outlets as those poor sods.
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I read a story earlier, but didn’t keep the link, sorry, that they’ve identified the contaminated building which has already been decontaminated in their preliminary precautionary activities.
Cheers,
Dave B
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I caught Legionnaires in 2013 and ended up in Isolation Ward in St Vincents Hospital
2 Potential places, Novotel Strasbourg where we were visiting French Friends, or Gardaland Resort Largo Del Garda North Italy with Grandkids
I believe Gardaland Resort, as 40C, I walked through a Misting Unit spraying walkway to cool down
Either one, Legionnaires not nice.
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Gerard,
I am under the impression that Z-Stack is/was {questionably} marketed to protect from Covid, not influenza. Further, while the commercial Zelenko product may help your body’s immune system, you can get the same stuff in food or over the counter, at less cost.
And a second further, there are shots for influenza. I suggest you talk to a medical doctor about the difference. The more elderly you are, the stronger that suggestion is.
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John are you saying a medical doctor might be more likely to recommend flu shots if the patient is more elderly? And if so, is there a point of aging beyond which that recommendation tails off?
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” And if so, is there a point of aging beyond which that recommendation tails off?”
Why would there be? Every shot is a profit for all involved except the taxpayer.
Besides, when money gets tight for those in power you can adjust the shot’s formula and shorten the lives of the elderly to save money. Personally, I can’t see the point of hammering your immune system with a pile of poisons injected straight into the blood stream rather then catching a virus in the way we evolved to.
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Right on target there.
Evolution brought us here, by and large it did a good job.
We should allow our immune system to keep working and adapting to most challenges: only very unusual, heavy duty, dangerous new threats might justify a vaccine and then only after thorough testing and assessment.
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Evolution is not so concerned about your survival after you’ve had kids though…
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There are recommendations on the web that say, with some exceptions, “Get a flu shot.” I read some of them and then ask my doctor. She says: “Your old – get a flu shot.” She is a bit blunt and no sense of humor — I’m only 80.
In the US, two are approved only for adults 65 years and older. At my pharmacy they recommend Fluzone High-Dose Quadrivalent.
My advice – ask your doctor.
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>My advice – ask your doctor
I know my previous doctor would recommend vaccination in all cases at all times no exceptions, she was very enthusiastic. I’ll ask my new doctor.
Before I retired, my workplace provided flu shots gratis.
I asked the administering nurse why I should get a flu shot and he rattled off all the benefits so I semi-reluctantly agreed to take it. As he was pushing the needle into my shoulder, I said to him, “so I guess with all those benefits, naturally you take the flu shot yourself?” “Oh no, he replied, I don’t take it”.
I felt betrayed.
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Flu shots? Natural immunity against influenza is strong, so if you feel healthy and fit you may be better off not getting the flu vax, because assuming you survive, you will develop a longer lasting immunity to the real thing which you will carry for years.
But there will come a point eventually as we age when the flu vax might be useful. Bear in mind, once you start taking it, you probably want to get an annual shot. The protection it gives is short, unlike the real flu, so people who have used the vax for a few years may be more vulnerable the following year because they didn’t get a natural booster.
Each year the flu vax team tries to guess which strains are prevalent, and some years are better than others.
I would ask if it is an mRNA vax or a DNA vax before every shot (I don’t think it is). I would avoid all forms of those.
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Gerard. Sounds like you caught the flu. Get well soon.
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Gerard , yours is the perfect example for why Ivermectin should be an OTC product. That if preferred people should have a pack of IVM pills ready to go in the medicine cabinet. Tox profile of IVM equivalent or better than most other OTC products. There’s other comments about the ZPack , flu shots and doctors in general that I could make, but it would border on medical advice. Not good on a blog like this.
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Z-stack and everything else are immune system boosters, NOT disease prophylactics or miracle pills of any form.
It’s the pill form of “prayers and hope”.
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CO2 Radiation vs.Work, Power and Energy
Work – Emitted radiation does no useful work: it does not heat water; does not energize photovoltaic cells (PVs); and it does not heat materials on the surface of the earth.
Power – The measured radiation is Apparent power only; it is not Real heating power.
Energy – The energetics of IR-C are negligible compared to solar IR-A/B. The energy-per-photon is in units of milli electron Volts (meV) compared to electron Volts (eV).
# # #
Prove me wrong.
Specifically. No bluff, hand-waving, or IPCC assessment reports.
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Hi Richard,
in your heading you use the term
” CO2 Radiation ” which is interesting.
What is that?
Just curious about the origin of that term?
The other items in that heading, ” Work, Power and Energy ” are well known and much used in true science, but in the definitions assigned here they seem to be part of the UNIPCCCs highjacking of original science to try and create a false legitimacy for their claims.
Possibly, in discussing them, we are giving them the legitimacy they crave.
The whole drama of atmospheric heating from CO2 is a scientific nonsense.
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KK
>in your heading you use the term ” CO2 Radiation ” which is interesting. What is that?
>Just curious about the origin of that term?
The CO2 molecule is a radiative absorber/emitter. Nothing contentious about that (I hope).
DLR is measured at surface all over the planet by 2 networks BSRN and SURFRAD.
CO2 radiation is a small component of total (and typical) DLR. From Sunday #7.1:
My analysis [based on Wang & Liang 2009 and Cheng et al 2017]:
>The other items in that heading, ” Work, Power and Energy ” are well known and much used in true science, but in the definitions assigned here they seem to be part of the UNIPCCCs highjacking of original science to try and create a false legitimacy for their claims.
No, I didn’t post any definitions.
It is simply an itemizing of how CO2 Radiation performs in respect to the SI Units – CO2 Radiation vs. Work, Power and Energy (SI)
I contend that there’s negligible performance of CO2 radiation vs Work, Power, and Energy as per my first post.
Nothing whatsoever to do with the UN IPCC.
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Hi Richard,
No, there’s nothing contentious there,
“The CO2 molecule is a radiative absorber/emitter. Nothing contentious about that (I hope).”
As I said, they are well known and loved terms but in the context of global Warming they are used in a devious manner to give the impression of science.
Certainly incoming solar UV is able to energize water so that it becomes a gas which, with further solar energy may expand and float upwards. That work done can be measured and quantified.
The UNIPCCCS determination that CO2 is a ” radiative gas ” is theatrical. Yes, atomic physics clearly acknowledges that CO2 will absorb and eject very specific quantities of energy under specific conditions and there’s also the energy shared in conduction in the atmosphere.
None of this allows that CO2 can “heat the atmosphere” as claimed by the UNIPCCC and the wobal glorming concept is total trash in terms of the atmospherics and thermodynamics of the system under discussion.
Certainly at ground level CO2 may absorb ground origin energy by radiation and conduction but all that adjustment is over and done with after about 30 metres agl and our “debil gas CO2” becomes a very compliant member of the atmosphere and equilibrates gently with its neighbors.
At an altitude of about 11,000 meters it gets to the temperature that triggers it to release energy to cold space.
That’s Global Cooling in my book.
🙂
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Oh dear
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I thought that Global Cooling would have been a common experience in KanBorrow.
🙂
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can you explain the scientific experiments tha show this and how can this be true if CO2 is observed to do this, routinely every day in thousands of independent labs, at sea level at room temperature?
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GA >can you explain the scientific experiments that show this? [11,000 effective emission to space]
Not addressed to me and I don’t know where 11,000 metres comes from but Effective Emission Height is what you’re after:
Greenhouse Effect: The Relative Contributions of Emission Height and Total Absorption
Jean-Louis Dufresne, Vincent Eymet, Cyril Crevoisier, and Jean-Yves Grandpeix (2020)
https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/clim/33/9/jcli-d-19-0193.1.xml
Physics Forum:
Effective Emission Height Calculation?
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/effective-emission-height-calculation.1054358/
Two other blog articles next (1st one Clive Best)
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Effective Emission Height
Posted on December 31, 2012 by Clive Best
https://clivebest.com/blog/?p=4475
Visualizing Atmospheric Radiation – Part Three – Average Height of Emission
January 8, 2013 by scienceofdoom
https://scienceofdoom.com/2013/01/08/visualizing-atmospheric-radiation-part-three-average-height-of-emission/
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RC- effective emission height is a cumulative number not what an individual molecule does. CO2 emits at every height and can be measured by simple instruments. KK claims otherwise.
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GA >can you explain the scientific experiments that show this [effective emission height]
Derivation of the effective radiating height & entire 33°C greenhouse effect without radiative forcing from greenhouse gases
https://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2014/11/derivation-of-effective-radiating.html
3. Determine the atmospheric pressures from gravitational forcing, and the height of the effective equilibrium temperature (ERL)
We will now determine the height (h) at the ERL where the temperature = the effective equilibrium temperature = 255K, and without use of radiative forcing from greenhouse gases. [Snip]
Plugging in numbers of M = 29 grams/mole (0.029 kg/mole) as average molar mass for atmosphere, g = 9.8 m/s^2, Pressure = 0.50 atmospheres at the approximate center of mass of the atmosphere, R=8.31, and T=Te=255K effective equilibrium temperature we obtain:
[See calc]
So the height of the ERL set by gravity forcing is located at 5100 meters and is where T=Te=255K and pressure = 0.5 atmospheres, right at the center of mass of the atmosphere as we predicted from our gravity forcing hypothesis.
4. Determine the temperatures at any location in the troposphere, and the magnitude of the mass/pressure greenhouse effect
Plugging the average 6.5C/km lapse rate and 5100 meter or 5.1 km height of the ERL we determine above into our derived lapse rate equation (#6 from prior post) gives
T = -18C – (6.5C/km × (h – 5.1km))
Using this equation we can perfectly reproduce the temperature at any height in the troposphere as shown in Fig 1. At the surface, h = 0, thus temperature at the surface Ts is calculated as
Ts = -18 – (6.5 × (0 – 5.1))
Ts = -18 + 33.15C (gravity forced greenhouse effect)
Ts = 15.15°C or 288.3°K at the surface
which is exactly the same as determined by satellite observations and is 33.15C above the equilibrium temperature -18C or 255K with the Sun as expected.
Thus, we have determined the entire 33.15C greenhouse effect, the surface temperature, and the temperature of the troposphere at any height, and the height at which the equilibrium temperature with the Sun occurs at the ERL entirely on the basis of the Newton’s 2nd law of motion, the 1st law of thermodynamics, and the ideal gas law, without use of radiative forcing from greenhouse gases, nor the concentrations of greenhouse gases, nor the emission/absorption spectra of greenhouse gases at any point in this derivation, demonstrating that the entire 33C greenhouse effect is dependent upon atmospheric mass/pressure/gravity, rather than radiative forcing from greenhouse gases.
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Gee ,
All I said was that there was no “spitting of photons ” by CO2 until the temperature is , from memory, 243K. This is about minus 30°C or roughly the altitude of modern jet flight.
As a component of the atmosphere, CO2 is forced to equilibrate constantly by conduction, bumping other gases.
At the higher, colder altitude I understand that the orbital configuration of the CO2 molecule is triggered.
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You believe incorrectly. WHat you believe does not determine how CO2 orbitals work
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RC- what is your question. You sort of wrote a question then followed with a huge amount of stuff.
CO2 emits where ever it is. The “effective” in effective height is not related to whether CO2 emits or not but about the effect of CO2 in the conditions it finds itself.
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>Work – [CO2] Emitted radiation does no useful work: it does not heat water
The implication of this being that the IPCC cannot make a human attribution to observed ocean heat rise (but they do).
And if they cannot make that attribution (they do) they cannot then reconcile the excess TOA energy that their theory generates with observations (but they do because false OHC attribution).
Given the observed OHC rise since 1950 is about 300 ZJ 0-2000m, the IPCC’s theory is a complete bust:
Global Ocean Heat 0-2000m
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/data/oceans/woa/DATA_ANALYSIS/3M_HEAT_CONTENT/GRAPHS/heat_content2000m.png
That 300 ZJ is a major part of the IPCC’s Theory-Observations reconciliation:
From AR5 Technical Summary
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg1/
“TFE.4, Figure 1 b) The cumulative total energy inflow from (a, black) is balanced by the sum of the energy uptake of the Earth system (blue; energy absorbed in warming the ocean”
This means the IPCC claim OHC to reconcile their theory with observations.
But they have ZERO physical proof for that Human-OHC attribution.
Also, they explicitly discarded the concept of ‘surface forcing’ in AR6 but here they are invoking it again.
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Abrupt Disconnection: Human Emissions from Atm. CO2
[1] Global Atm. CO2 compared to annual emissions (1751-2022)
https://www.climate.gov/sites/default/files/2023-05/CO2_emissions_vs_concentrations_1751-2022.png
Tenuous correlation until 2010 then abrupt disconnection.
From,
Climate Change: Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide (NOAA)
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide
[2]Greenhouse gas emissions (OWID)
https://ourworldindata.org/greenhouse-gas-emissions
Interactive Settings: Display relative changes
% Change
+33.2%/decade – 1950-2010
+7.47%/decade – 2010-2022
The abrupt change in human emissions at 2010 [1] made no difference to the steady rise in Atm. CO2 [2].
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Probably should be the other way around:
The abrupt change in human emissions at 2010 [2] made no difference to the steady rise in Atm. CO2 [1].
At 4:01am blog time (6am here) I had had neither breakfast nor coffee.
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The first graph, CO2 concentrations vs emissions is absolute rubbish. I cannot believe any scientist created this lying graph.
I use it of an example of what is done by non scientists and propagandists.
And I have redrawn the graph correctly but cannot post it here. The allegation is that CO2 and emissions are highly correlated. As they are both measuring tons of CO2, they should be on the same scale and both with zero. You could correlate an elephant and a meercat with this appalling display and argue they are siblings.
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Ditto the second graph. The X axis is missing! Drawn correctly the CO2 graph is closer to a near horizontal straight line. More NOAA non science rubbish.
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And the third graph should be compared to rapid gaseous exchange with the oceans which are 10x the size. WIth a residence time of 10 years, all CO2 in the atmosphere is exchanged every 10 years for ocean CO2. Our tiny output is of no consequence in this massive process of equilibrium exchange, evaporation and condensation as with the other gas, H2O. And between them responsible for all life on earth.
So called (toxic) “emissions’ are nothing more than old leaves. And the CO2 total from the old leaves is a tiny fraction of the continuous equilibrium exchange of CO2, H2O. Otherwise CO2 above China/USA/Europe/Russia would be vastly greater than above Australia and the South Pole. In fact they are all within 1%.
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>Otherwise CO2 above China/USA/Europe/Russia would be vastly greater than above Australia and the South Pole.
And if man-made CO2 emissions is really the driver of atmospheric warming, China must be by far the hottest place on Earth and the vast Sahara desert where no man-made CO2 is emitted must be freezing cold.
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TdeF >And the third graph should be compared to rapid gaseous exchange with the oceans which are 10x the size.
I only posted 2 graphs [1] and [2].
What “third graph” are you referring to?
I assume this graph from the NOAA page:
CARBON DIOXIDE OVER 800,000 YEARS
https://www.climate.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_620_original_image/public/2024-04/ClimateDashboard-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-image-paleo-20240405-1400px.png?itok=-g_Qgndc
That the one?
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Greenhouse gas emissions
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Ok, [2] Greenhouse gas emissions (OWID)
I just used the Settings to give relative change instead of billion tonnes
Settings: Display relative change
Demonstrates my point re 2010 disconnect.
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TdeF >Ditto the second graph. The X axis is missing! Drawn correctly the CO2 graph is closer to a near horizontal straight line. More NOAA non science rubbish.
Not sure which graph you’re referring to here.
Second graph [2] is OWID, not NOAA.
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TdeF
>they should be …. both with zero
Agreed. Normalization.
First thing I looked for was normalization but wasn’t there so I carried on anyway.
>they should be on the same scale
If the respective data series are normalized (set to initial Y = zero, or zero change) then I think it is Ok to compare apples with oranges.
But that graph is NOT normalized.
Evenso, still demonstrates my point (2010 disconnection).
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In the first graph the CO2 is measured in ppm. Total CO2 is measured in GT. Why not both in GT?
And why not both starting at zero.
Otherwise how can slopes/amounts be compared?
This is a child’s idea of science. You have to compare like with like on an absolute scale.
Otherwise any two graphs can be made to overlap for a distance of completely unrelated things.
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TdeF
>In the first graph the CO2 is measured in ppm. Total CO2 is measured in GT. Why not both in GT? And why not both starting at zero.
Agreed. That certainly could have been done.
For my purposes didn’t matter though.
>You have to compare like with like on an absolute scale.
Disagree. Long discussion with John in NZ on Sunday thread. I described how I had normalized CO2 (MLO) vs. Temp (HadCRUT) years ago to reveal Lead vs. Lag last century. Normalization began at Y = 0 at the same Date for each series.
There is no way to convert either CO2 or Temp into the same terms as the other in that comparison.
Temp was Leading CO2 by about 20 yrs middle of last century (from memory), but crossed over later after turn of century (from memory).
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>I described how I had normalized CO2 (MLO) vs. Temp (HadCRUT) years ago to reveal Lead vs. Lag last century. Normalization began at Y = 0 at the same Date for each series.
Searched my flash drives – can’t find it.
Think it was an Empirical Mode Decomposition (EMD) analysis.
Lost in the mists of time and can’t remember the EMD details of how I did that anyway except it would have been a comparison of residuals. From Wiki (Hilbert–Huang transform):
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>a monotonic function from which no more IMF can be extracted
So for HadCRUT that’s the residual secular trend (ST) i.e. all oceanic oscillation IMF has been sifted out.
For CO2 there’s no insignificant/significant IMFs i.e. the series is basically the secular trend (nearly).
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“Hottest Days” Source – Antarctic SSW
10-hPa Zonal Mean Temperature 2023-2024 65S-95S (NOAA)
Spectacular spike July 2024 (red line).
From,
Record 50C temperature increase over Antarctica to shift Australia’s weather patterns
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-27/nsw-antarctica-warming-over-50c/104142332
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Thanks for this … I read it last week, but lost track of the article.
Glad to say their forecast has already been proven wrong – with light winds and warmer weather expected in Tassie through to the middle of August.
At this point … after their long hot summer prediction, their above average winter forecast, and now this failure … it would be safe to assume any long range forecast by the BOM is going to be 100% wrong.
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Missing URL to graph,
10-hPa Zonal Mean Temperature 2023-2024 65S-95S (NOAA)
https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/5475cc9ce2966ce57c7718fcd2ba8fdc?src
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President Trump shared:
Of course there is a massive market downturn. Kamala is even worse than Crooked Joe. Markets will NEVER accept the Radical Left Lunatic that DESTROYED San Francisco and California, as a whole. Next move, THE GREAT DEPRESSION OF 2024! You can’t play games with MARKETS. KAMALA CRASH!!!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/financial-experts-provide-dire-description-markets-kamala-crash/
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Nine UNRWA staff may have been involved in Oct. 7 attack, UN investigation reveals
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-813402
And,
So, “the interest of the Agency” was top priority – Got that.
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https://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/palestinian-territories/development-assistance-in-occupied-palestinian-territories#:
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NZ to make UNRWA payment ‘on schedule and in coming days’ – Peters
https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/06/07/nz-to-make-unrwa-payment-on-schedule-and-in-coming-days-peters/
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UN staff cooperation with Hamas terrorists was recognised and reported from the very beginning of the terrorist atrocities but not widely reported by Lamestream media or the Hamas-loving Left. I am somewhat pleasantly surprised that the UN is now partially admitting to this. Now the UN needs to follow up with over hundred other UNWRA terrorists Israel supplied the names of.
I object to the $20 million of Australian taxpayer money given to UNWRA, funded by my taxes and used for terrorism.
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David >I object to the $20 million of Australian taxpayer money given to UNWRA
$32.2 million @ #11.1 above.
Inflation?
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$20 million is given to UNWRA, other Aussie taxpayer monies go to other terrorists or directly into the pockets of the likes of Yahya Ibrahim Hassan Sinwar and his other billionaire comrade terrorist leadership, at least the ones that haven’t yet been “deactivated”.
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Yes, billionaires.
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And the UN is only sacking/firing the terrorists. Surely they should be charged with and prosecuted for the extremely serious crimes against humanity they were involved with?
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The whole of Gaza is a money pit. As the most heavily subsidized city on earth, donations are the lifeblood of the place. It should be a new Monaco. As Beirut was before Islamic extremists took over.
Where is an Middle Eastern Islamic city not a complete financial wreck?
The deadly attack on Israel was planned to restart the donations business. With hostages and the population of Gaza as human shields against the utterly predictable response.
All this death and tragedy is the business of Hamas. It is not about religion or freedom. Mass civilians deaths and hostage taking are extremely profitable and very traditional. And have been for 1200 years.
It is not about freedom or religion or culture. It is about the money. Like all wars. Only 20th century consumerism has ended war.
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‘Dismantling Hamas from within’: IDF uncovers trove of Hamas secrets
IDF and Shin Bet uncover extensive Hamas intelligence, revealing lists of suspected LGBTQ+ individuals, brutal tactics, global operations, and systematic terror tactics.
The intelligence included Excel tables showing the readiness levels of special units, companies, battalions, and brigades, including the scope of training, weapons, and ammunition.
It also included documentation of orders in the various units and the review of equipment lists for each fighter, protocols of meetings, discussions, and the decision-making process at senior and junior levels.
Security officials stated that the level of order and organization was a significant surprise for the intelligence community.
“Hundreds and thousands of interrogations of terrorists and senior leaders would not have yielded such intimate intelligence on their methods of order and organization in such a short period,” said a military official exposed to the intelligence material.
“After consolidating all Hamas infrastructure in the Gaza Strip, based on what we saw in maps and documents and what was actually discovered, it is clear that Gaza was constructed as one large military base, including the use of kindergartens, schools, clinics, hospitals, and m0sques,” said a source who reviewed Hamas documents. The source added, “They intended to infiltrate a large number of IDF bases, including Air Force bases.”
In the clothing of the commander of the raid on Sderot, a handwritten note was found in which he stated that according to the Q0ran, their souls would ascend to heaven and, in exchange for their s@distic actions against soldiers and civilians, including torture, they would be welcomed into paradise.
From The Comments
– Very detailed account of Hamas military organization.
This highlights how dangerous they are. Israel made a huge mistake with the withdrawal from Gaza and the disengagement. This let Israel dependent on its intelligence services to assess about the threat posed by Hamas. Sadly, nobody could imagine the extent and the sophistication of their preparations for war and to attack Israel as they did in Oct. 7th.
Now that Israel knows, it would be completely reckless to leave Gaza again under the control of Hamas.
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ALL decision makers in this conflict have significant financial interest in its continuance: https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R46344
and then, there are the people, just dying, being maimed and running away as best they can
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KAMALA CRASH
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/
KAMALA CRASH: Harris’s Words Come Back to Haunt Her as Stock Market COLLAPSES Monday Following Disastrous Jobs Report – President Trump Responds
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Joe Biden Six Days Before Global Market Crash That Wiped Out $2 Trillion: “I Cured the Economy” (VIDEO)
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Nearly $2 Trillion Wiped Out from Stock Market as Fears of Global Recession Spark Panic Among Investors — Warren Buffett Dumped Nearly Half of Apple Stake and Holds $277 Billion in Cash Reserve
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Financial Experts Provide Dire Description of Markets and the “KAMALA CRASH”
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JUST IN: Biden’s Senior Economic Advisor Resigns After Market Crash — Will Work for Harris Campaign
# # #
Joe cured the economy, Kamala crashed it.
Sad!
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1st item at TGP above.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump (TRUTH)
Also, check out:
I Meme Therefore I Am 🇺🇸 @ImMeme0
https://x.com/i/status/1820315020678365486
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In case you were wondering how we got the Bidenomics Kamala Crash:
This is the Biden-Harris Administration’s handpicked Economic Advisors Chair, Jared Bernstein, struggling to understand basic economics and the consequences of uncontrolled money printing
Painfully incompetent leaders.
https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1820470385495695443?t=jz2QyCj64BlHl6GfiTLJKQ&s=09
(3 minute video)
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X thread in utter amazement.
Although, quibbling over Govt vs Private Bank debt in respect to:
“The U.S. government can’t go bankrupt because we can print our own money.”
“Actually, correct. The U.S. government cannot go bankrupt. It is quite literally impossible. Since you have no idea what’s going on, here’s a clue: private banks “print” about 90% of the money in circulation. Only about 10% comes from the gov’t/Fed.”
Except,
Understanding How the Federal Reserve Creates Money
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/081415/understanding-how-federal-reserve-creates-money.asp
Key Takeaways
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>Understanding How the Federal Reserve Creates Money
>The Fed uses the federal funds rate to affect other interest rates and adjust the money supply.
From Biden To Bonds: Unmasking A Template Of Lies
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/biden-bonds-unmasking-template-lies
The Bankers…
The Fed – next.
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The Fed…
See graph,
Feds Total Assets $ Trillion
From Crisis to Crisis to Raging Inflation
https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/c_0.jpg?itok=IBc4MKJP
NZ not much different – next.
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Over successive Govts, Left and Right, NZs Reserve Bank Governor along with Finance Ministers helped create a housing bubble.
Said bubble is now bursting.
Now, Res. Bank Gov. and Fin. Min. are up the creek without a paddle.
The official [NZ] cash rate (OCR)
https://www.rbnz.govt.nz/monetary-policy/about-monetary-policy/the-official-cash-rate
Except now, NZ is in Technical Recession.
Price stability is a myth.
Housing is an exercise for the wealthy.
Construction is just clinging on to is left of the boom-time work.
Hospitality has tanked.
People that can have or are bailing out to somewhere else (OZ).
Replacements are either low-skilled or quals not recognized.
Businesses are going bust and the survivors are struggling to pay rents.
Other than that, everything’s fine.
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As was coined last century:
“Would the last person to leave (NZ) please turn the lights out…”
It was even pre Robert Muldoon’s answer to a reporter’s question as to whether he was worried by the exodus of Kiwi’s to Australia which was:
“No, it improves the IQ of both countries”.
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Nvidia Reportedly Delays Next AI Chip As Shares Tank On Global Selloff
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/nvidia-reportedly-delays-next-ai-chip-shares-tank-global-selloff
AI bubble pop?
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Down 2 to 3% in the major markets around the world including Australia. It’s a very sharp drop and that’s the concern.
Stock Markets Crash
Monday Massacre Brought To You By Kazuo’s Carry-Chaos, Kamalanomics, & Jump’s Crypto Dump
Manic Monday
Stocks and Dollar sink amid heightened hard-landing fears
S&P500 , Dow Jones , FTSE , ASX 200
(articles)
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Redacted: Emergency! Global Market Meltdown, US Dollar Dumped a Recession Hits (video)
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We keep getting told that wind and solar are the cheapest form of electricity generation, an obvious lie from government and so-called “experts” like morally-corrupt scientists from CSIRO (who get paid by the government for the requested opinions).
So isn’t it time to create a free market for electricity and let the marketplace decide which is truly cheapest?
Stop forced preferential purchase arrangements and subsidies of fundamentally defective wind and solar products.
And if anyone in “opposition” parties of Government, real scientists and engineers and their professional bodies, and the Lamestream media were actually doing their jobs, they would be questioning the obvious fact that the more wind, solar and Big Battery plantations we get, the more expensive electricity becomes.
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THE DAILY CHART: GREENS AGAINST GREEN ENERGY
As everyone knows, we’re building out massive amounts of wind and solar power with the huge subsidies the Biden regime rammed through, but as knowledgeable people (that would exclude the White House) know, none of this works even in theory if you don’t build a significant amount of new high-voltage transmission lines from where the windmills and grid-scale solar panels are—typically rural areas far from where the electricity is needed.
A study (74 Page PDF)just out from the excellent Energy Markets and Policy Lab at UC Berkeley include this significant finding from wind and solar power providers—pay special attention to the second horizontal bar:
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UNRWA –> The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East
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Today is January 6 Political Prisoner Jake Lang’s 1300th Day in Prison WITHOUT A TRIAL
From TGP.
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JUST IN: New Details Emerge About Biden White House Cocaine Scandal – There Was a “Partial DNA Hit” – And Cheatle Tried to Make It Disappear!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/former-secret-service-director-cheatle-wanted-destroy-cocaine/
RealClearPolitics reported:
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“Former Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle ”
Yep, now she’s gone and under a cloud we can quickly rush out all the bad news we have been hiding for a couple of years and blame it all on her…
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“There’s a Revolution Brewing in Britain” – Tommy Robinson Doxxed by Daily Mail as Asylum Hotels Set on Fire and “Muslim Defence League” Chases Englishmen with Two-by-Fours
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/theres-revolution-brewing-britain-tommy-robinson-doxxed-daily/
Tommy Robinson 🇬🇧 @TRobinsonNewEra
@sammywoodhouse1 [Rotherham Rape Surviver]
11:55 PM · Aug 4, 2024
12:46 AM · Aug 5, 2024
2:16 AM · Aug 5, 2024
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Michigan city of Hamtramck: LGBTQ sanctuary vs. all-Muslim leadership
HUGE! Breaking Project Veritas VIDEO… Top Dems Reveal How They Steal Elections in Muslim-Majority MI City — Former Mayor Claims AG Nessel Has Been Investigating— Ballots Allegedly Being Filled Out in Dining Rooms!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/huge-breaking-project-veritas-video-top-dems-reveal/
“You need these people’s votes, right? So, who’s going to say brown-skinned people are doing election fraud?” – Karen Majewski, ex-Hamtramck Major
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Hamtramck City Council candidate Lynn Blasey told the undercover reporter, “They hire black people to go to black people’s houses. They hire Bangladeshi people to go to Bangladeshi homes.” She explained, “The black people—they pay them for their ballots.
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Ms. Blasey then explained how, after the ballots are harvested, they are offered to the candidates and then auctioned off to the highest bidder. She refers to the criminal operation as “The Midnight Meeting.”
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“These guys go door to door and take people’s ballots. They bully them… intimidate.”- August Gitschlag, Certified Michigan Elections Official
# # #
Saving Our Democracy.
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Progressive Dems In Michigan Tell Undercover Journo They Were ‘Ballot Harvested’ Out Of Office By Muslim Voter Fraud Network
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/progressive-dems-michigan-tell-undercover-journo-they-were-ballot-harvested-out-office
It was time when strangers were welcome here
Music would play
They tell me the days were sweet and clear
It was a sweeter tune, and there was so much room
That people could come from everywhere
– Neil Sedaka
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The European on most levels progressed to an individualistic society with only sporadic group-think clusters which still exist for a specific purpose/application ie the Irish Protestant V Catholic, the Scots V the rest of England, All Blacks V the Wannabes etc.
The globalists have fostered the re-introduction of tribal societies over that dynamic and now the outcomes begin to bear fruit including the renaissance of the tribal Aboriginal and Maori history with underlying claims that each were(are) the better models (land management etc) that the modern day should grasp with both hands.
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How has the Mr Wong of the Australian Labor Party vetted Palestinian Gazans given this Article?
Something for the Palestinian Protest Idiots in Australia!
‘Dismantling Hamas from within’: IDF uncovers trove of Hamas secrets
IDF and Shin Bet uncover extensive Hamas intelligence, revealing lists of suspected LGBTQ+ individuals, brutal tactics, global operations, and systematic terror tactics.
The intelligence included Excel tables showing the readiness levels of special units, companies, battalions, and brigades, including the scope of training, weapons, and ammunition.
It also included documentation of orders in the various units and the review of equipment lists for each fighter, protocols of meetings, discussions, and the decision-making process at senior and junior levels.
Security officials stated that the level of order and organization was a significant surprise for the intelligence community.
“Hundreds and thousands of interrogations of terrorists and senior leaders would not have yielded such intimate intelligence on their methods of order and organization in such a short period,” said a military official exposed to the intelligence material.
For example, during the ground maneuver, official documents of the terrorist organization were found, including procedures and investigations of those suspected of being part of the LGBTQ community.
Procedures of Hamas for those in the LGBTQ community
The official documents of Hamas’s “rulebook” reveal brutal behavior against anyone suspected of belonging to the LGBTQ community.
Additionally, documentation of interrogations and testimonies about aggressive questioning focused solely on s@xual preferences and orientations was found, indicating that those suspected of being part of the LGBTQ community faced a single fate – death.
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Word of the day: notorious.
Back in the day it used to mean “well known” and was used like that in British law, but now it has another meaning.
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I like the term “Colourful racing identity” when referring to hustlers and cons.
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A thought for the day –
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Andrew Bustamante: CIA Spy: Signs He’s A Con Man, A Narcissist, Psychopath Or Manipulator! (Don’t Fall For His Trap!) (video)
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So the main anti-Semitic organisation on the planet is investigating itself. It’s time the USA pulled out of the UN. Others will follow and I’m very sure their remaining, staunch ant Semetic members will scream “ racism “ as 80% of the UN funds dry up! 😂👏👏👍
UN is long past its use by date. Probable cause is boiling oceans 😂😂😂😂
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An interesting idea.. what if all the Western bloc pulled out of the UN and just used NATO as a supra-national organisation.
That would leave the UN to the global South and Asia/Russia, and they wouldn’t take the crap from the bureaurats when they have to pay the whole budget.
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100 Japanese Firms Leave China in 3 Years, Fearing Inability to Leave Later (video)
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FWIW – on the financial scene
“And Suddenly Things Change”
https://kunstler.com/clusterf*-nation/and-suddenly-things-change/
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Wow! I wasn’t familiar with the work of James Kunstler. He is amazing. I have been reading his predictions of a year ago – almost everything developing as he predicted. Most people haven’t got a clue of what is happening….& would just laugh if they read Kunstler. I suspect they won’t be laughing as 2024 progresses…..
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Heh heh…😎
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Hi Vicki
For variety have a look at
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?blog=Market-Ticker
And keep an eye on the top RHS “What the news didn’t want you to know” as well
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Our Last Chance to Avoid War in the Middle East (video)
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The second article says no Aboriginal ancestry at all. The first, a promotion, of course.
With this little teller –
Truth telling?
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When Democrats Say “Our Democracy”
August 5, 2024 – Sundance
This is a good video (1 Min 15 Secs) to put context to his familiar linguistic jingle that we keep hearing from Democrats, “our democracy.” [Citation]
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WTF?: Am following – https://www.flightradar24.com/GAF760/367f6666 – heading for Darwin.
Germany – Air Force – Airbus A321-251NX – that’s a troop carrier very likely, or cargo.
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Operation Pitch Black
https://www.airbus.com/en/newsroom/stories/2024-07-pitch-black-24-why-the-european-air-forces-are-down-under
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Should be fun, they have the Indian’s SU30s to practice against.
” 20 allied countries are participating in joint missions ”
Did anyone send F16s?
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Jo,
Firefox V128.0.3 seems to be playing up – iMac 27in Retina 5k 2019 – MacOs – Sonoma 14.5
No b i link quote in leave a reply, and when you go to do Thumbs up flips back to top of Page
Was occurring before I did update to latest V128.0.3, and first link under new version seemed OK but then regressed
Posting under Brave Browser now with no problems on same iMac
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Kamala speak as a Mathematical exercise
Does anyone know what networks, vertex, edge and degree means in this exercise.
Appears to a year twelve mathematics taught as a new language to achieve something, I just cannot work out what?
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The REAL origins of artificial intelligence?- self assembling code soup
https://youtu.be/EpRRwgyeBak?si=7yhwYGzOKKLLTGY6
Just as biological life evolved from a primordial soup of enzymes and chemicals, maybe AI can mimic it, albeit a few million times faster.
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Google loses massive antitrust lawsuit over its search dominance
Google has violated US antitrust law with its search business, a federal judge ruled Monday, handing the tech giant a staggering court defeat with the potential to reshape how millions of Americans get information online and to upend decades of dominance.
“After having carefully considered and weighed the witness testimony and evidence, the court reaches the following conclusion: Google is a monopolist, and it has acted as one to maintain its monopoly,” US District Judge Amit Mehta wrote in Monday’s opinion. “It has violated Section 2 of the Sherman Act.”
The decision by the US District Court for the District of Columbia is a stunning rebuke of Google’s oldest and most important business. The company has spent tens of billions of dollars on exclusive contracts to secure a dominant position as the world’s default search provider on smartphones and web browsers.
Those contracts have given it the scale to block out would-be rivals such as Microsoft’s Bing and DuckDuckGo, the US government alleged in a historic antitrust lawsuit filed during the Trump administration.
Now, said Mehta, that powerful position has led to anticompetitive behavior that must be stopped.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/google-loses-massive-antitrust-lawsuit-over-its-search-dominance/ar-AA1ohBlo
Use Yandex.
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Dear God, what a bloody palaver.
I couldn’t find where I’d written it down so had to call St George Bank just now, to ask which bank address I should use to receive international payments. My local branch closed some time ago. I had already tried asking the Chatbot online, with predictable lack of success. Having dialled, I then proceeded to follow the familiar maze of “Select 1”, “Select 4″ etc. This was of course after I had been told not to abuse staff and to note the call will be recorded, blah, blah, blah. I went round in circles for quite some time, even getting cut off when I couldn’t answer some question about an app. Wut?
Eventually I got to speak with a human but my question threw him. I can’t be the first person to make this simple query, surely? Anyway, off he went to ask somebody more knowledgeable before Hurrah! I got what I needed. It only took twenty minutes.
But the most irritating thing was having to listen, while on hold, to the Aboriginal version of Farnham’s ‘You’re The Voice”. Geddit?
Is it possible to interact with any Australian institution without getting THEIR politics rammed down my throat?
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Back in the day, it was considered important for companies to be politically neutral because adopting one position or another would scare away half your customers. This was the position until some time in about the 1980’s I guess, then companies saw that if they adopted the desired positions of the Government of the day, they could secure special favours such as favourable legislation. And the rest is history.
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Perhaps in future, whenever I interact with a large organisation or public service department, I should begin by letting their representative know where i stand on various matters, such as climate change, trans issues and Aboriginal land rights. It would only take a few minutes and I’m sure they would want to hear it. Wouldn’t they?
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Thankfully, my “bank” is years ahead of the security-joke others, with real service with real humans, and no politics. 😎
Tip: ditch the big banks and go smaller.
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Steve,
its is everywhere!
– just rang Dyson 1-800, as I wanted to purchase a Dyson Airstrait™ straightener (Prussian Blue / Rich Copper) as a surprise Birthday present for my Wife, but there was nowhere where you could ship as a Gift
The Dyson Call was answered, after selecting 2 for “I want to buy”, by an Indian speaking lady, I assume a Work From Home here in Australia, as there were sounds coming from outside, I said I would like to have it Gift Wrapped and enclose a Message to my Wife with the Gift, and could I do so by purchasing over the Phone.
NO!
Ok, the Dyson Supersonic™ hair dryer (Ceramic pink/Rose gold, I had previously purchased for my wife, came with its own case for Travelling, did the Dyson Airstrait™ come with a Case?
The Lady did not know, and had to put me on hold for a couple of minutes, whilst she went away, presumably to ask someone else, as She seemed not to have a clue re Dyson Products
End Result, total waste of time, so I went and purchased online – will need to hide when it arrives.
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I refer to this as foot-shooting-with-howitzers. Fire again, Moriarty, there are vestiges of toes remaining!
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Weird: Dems Use 16 Year Old Photo Of Kamala Surrounded By ‘Michelle’ Signs To Promote DNC
In a strange move, the official X account of the Democratic Party chose to upload an image of Kamala Harris that is 16 years old, surrounded by signs that say ‘Michelle’ as a way of promoting the upcoming Democratic National Convention.
This is the image:
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From the Comments
– Joan Rivers…’We all know’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-KjdMtSQSs
Then amazingly she’s dead months later.
– Mike would beat the living snot out of any of those Olympic boxer chicks, including the two dude chicks.
– The IOC says she a woman….
– Big Mike could never be an Olympic pole vaulter.
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Big Mike ticks more DEI boxes than Harris. I think that would have been Barack Hussein’s choice.
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Probably to counter the photo that Billie Brown threatens to release – the one taken with Mr Trump on his plane, no less, where’s she’s getting a free flight. Haha, karma is a bitch. (I said Karma, not Kamala).
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Report Finds Biden-Harris Released 99 Illegal Aliens On FBI Terror Watchlist Into American Communities
A new interim staff report from the House Judiciary Committee and Subcommittee on Immigration Integrity, Security, and Enforcement, published on Monday, highlights how the Biden administration, with ‘Border Czar’ VP Kamala Harris, facilitated the greatest illegal alien invasion ever on the United States.
The report titled “Terror At Our Door: How The Biden-Harris Administration’s Open-Borders Policies Undermine National Security And Endanger Americans” revealed that the failed southern border policies of President Joe Biden and VP Kamala Harris have flooded the nation with more than 5.4 million illegal aliens. Additionally, at least 1.9 million known “gotaways” also entered, bringing the total to 7.3 million illegal entries.
This aged well.
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>photo of Kamala surrounded by Michelle signs
I hope that’s not a foretaste to soften us up for what’s waiting in the wings.
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Kamala: electric school bus bust
The electric vehicle (EV) doom loop is accelerating. Even in its fading days, surrounded by the stench of EV demise, the Harris/Biden Administration continues to cheerlead for EVs.
The head cheerleader: Kamala Harris:
One of Kamala Harris’s highest profile responsibilities as vice president has been spearheading the federal government’s billion-dollar efforts to deploy thousands of electric buses across hundreds of school districts nationwide. But years into the program, only a small fraction of those projects have been completed while dozens of school districts have withdrawn from the program altogether.
As part of the first tranche of Clean School Bus program funding two years ago, Harris and EPA administrator Michael Regan unleashed nearly $1 billion in federal rebates for 389 school districts across all 50 states to help deliver a total 2,463 electric school buses.
And how many of those EV buses are actually in service? That’s hard to know since 27 districts report 60 buses, but that includes EV buses and propane-propelled buses. Every other district has wisely backed out.
“Wisely” because the buses don’t live up to the hype. They cost about three times as much as a conventionally powered bus, have so little range in winter—they can’t run heaters because that drains the batteries too fast—government grants don’t pay the total cost of buses, and the charging infrastructure costs are simply too great. Jackson, WY, as blue a town as can be found, had similar problems
And, of course, there is corruption:
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And the wheels on the bus go round and round. (video) 😁️
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Stalin (I take the knee) Starmer to release 500 criminals from British Prisions to make room for Englishmen protesting the killing of children by the usual suspects
All the making of a “Oh What a Lovely War”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qymh7qWwfQ&t=306s
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FWIW
“COVID Roundup: New Zealand Codifies Forced Injections in Martial Law ‘Pandemic Plan’ ”
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-08-05/covid-roundup-new-zealand-codifies-forced-injections-martial-law-pandemic-plan
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And
“NEW ZEALAND’S SLOW-MOTION COUP D’ETAT”
https://richardsonpost.com/chrisn/36934/new-zealands-slow-motion-coup-detat/
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Translated –
“When Democrats Say “Our Democracy”
August 5, 2024 | Sundance | 171 Comments”
Links to video
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/08/05/when-democrats-say-our-democracy/
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Britain goes full NWO
Welcome to 2024 Britain where The Police arrive at your home to arrest you for comments made on Facebook.
As Britain descends into lawless chaos – the Governments priority clearly isn’t fixing it, but is to go after those that voice their opinion about it online.
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1820466209533342044
And forget the actual cause, like knife and machette wielding malcontent immo’ bludgers from crime ridden countries like Africa.
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Tuesday ejuksyshun: how stuff is made
https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_shorq3kY8p1z23obp.mp4
I miss playing with lasers. 😉
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JC >Great vid.
Used to work in packaging.
Carton making machine @ 1:15
Similar are in every kiwifruit packhouse in NZ.
Some lines fully automated i.e. box/carton/tray machine – conveyor – filler – closer – conveyor – former – robot stacker – auto pallet strapper. Those either in purposed auto sheds or parallel to old-school manual.
It’s relentless and a real mission to keep at optimum speed.
Fine when it all works, panic stations when it doesn’t.
Either: auto shed stops; 100s of people paid to stand around doing nothing at great expense; or do it old-school manually.
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>how stuff is made
Marvellous how millions of drudge slave labour jobs have been eliminated by this clever robot machinery mass production.
Liberating us all from drudgery, and cheaper more efficient productivity, was supposed to give us all wealth and leisure time, but instead it created enormous wealth and power disparities. ‘All power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely’ (Acton)
And here we now find ourselves at the crux of the problem.
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A NEW Covid variant is here
https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/video/new-covid-19-variant-causes-cases-to-double-cdc-says/
I’ve been seeing anecdotal reports from hospitals for a week now, saying they’re getting swamped.
The inescapable immune escape pandemic perhaps?
No doubt lots more to come.
/unvaxxed and safe
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Oh good.
We haven’t had a new variant for a while. It was getting boring.
Is this the expected US Election Variant?
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Should be in full swing by the time you get back from Nepal.
Don’t forget your Cholera shot.
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Again, all the more reason to have IVM as a more widespread OTC product. Or even HCQ at least, for administration in hospitals. Not that Remdesivir poison or the ineffective Paxlovid. Stop all those poor people having to attend hospital /ED. But, then I suppose the hospitals wont get paid, will they? Because we all know it’s about successful health outcomes (sic). One outcome being profit.
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/unvaxxed and safe
Geert Van Den Bossche is not so sure about that. The tidal wave of a dangerous new variant (created by immune escape) will affect us unvaccinated as well – though hopefully not as severely .
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Well, he predicted his “evolved” virus to hit around now, but timeframes, severity and spread are difficult to map in advance unless you have very good sources.
The unvaxxed will be way way better off than the vaxxed regardless.
/eat more fresh pineapple 😉
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Tuesday wisdom
“Amongst all the able, none are so powerless as those who will not act.”
-AL-MUTANABBI, 10th-century Arab poet
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CHIPS Act update: Intel runs out of time and money, announces layoffs in US to double down on China (video)
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Stick up a QR code – you collect the parking fees until the driver’s get fines in the post and someone figures out what has been going on.
https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/somerset-parking-machines-hit-fraudulent-9460339
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Also in there- People are catching on to Vit D and zinc for immune health against Covid.
“High street healthcare retailer Superdrug has reported a 319% spike in sales of its Covid lateral flow tests, alongside a 297% increase in cold and flu relief sachets, suggesting a surge of illness across the UK this Summer. The high street retailer also reported a surge in sales of vitamins that can help support immunity and help combat such illnesses, specifically Vitamin D increasing by 116% and Zinc increasing by 58%. “
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Robert Parker: The nuclear speech the Teals wanted cancelled (video)
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Negative SAM is becoming immoderate.
‘Recently the Southern Annular Mode has trended to moderate negativity, and in a classic response there has been frequent frontal activity across southwest Victoria. A negative SAM in winter can push southern ocean frontal systems closer to Victoria.’ (Agriculture Vic)
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And the jet stream is decelerating.
‘The current systems’ central pressure has soared well above your typical high due to lingering polar air over southern Australia and a decelerating jet stream which is enhancing the amount of air pushing towards the ground from high altitude.
“Two of the main factors are the subsidence associated with the jet stream across central/eastern Australia and the broad pool of cold and dense air across the country and waters to the south,” a Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) spokesperson said.
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FWIW – another for “Kamala’s List”
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhj-E2ak__sBEQ2VIVMUs4VDEmcxBVJTz_dZYfHUSTsf_Ma8_OVrJfl0ybBqKSicL6kDq3uVv7PDpSfEuZ0XnURVzuiewM8hPI9vPqpMjtEGjGaoBNi-rVgFJcPnyNWqKkk63nh9i_yGA37ZCUvwFm6NbPr6eLPDB9PLskk481dGpQ9KEccXM9O-k59ksM/w498-h640/Kamala%20Harris%20Planned%20Parenthood.png
https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2024/08/worth-remembering.html
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Deadly fever ‘heading to Britain’ warns leaked government report
A leaked government report has issued a warning that a deadly African swine fever – which poses a serious threat to British farming – is on its way to the UK.
The document reveals concerns from officials who admit they are ‘barely scratching the surface’ of illegal pork meat smuggling through Dover. The stark warning comes in the wake of Brexit, with the Cabinet Office’s emergency COBR Unit raising the alert following admissions by port health officials in January about the scale of illicit pork entering at Dover.
Lucy Manzano, head of port health and public protection at Dover District Council, highlighted the dire implications of the disease reaching British shores: “If it lands here it will result in UK culling programmes and export bans. It will absolutely have devastating consequences for our pig farmers, wild pig community and reputation.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/deadly-fever-heading-to-britain-warns-leaked-government-report/ar-AA1ogvG0
A leaked report? You need better sources like mine which have been showing the spread in the EU for weeks.
Which is why I’m way ahead of the game. 😎
/heh heh
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FWIW – two sets of scales
“Weighing N.Y.’s Climate Statute”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/08/05/weighing-n-y-s-climate-statute/
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‘Whackery and wokery’: People in the UK are losing ‘faith and trust’ in police (video)
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Sen. Mike Lee: You’re Underestimating Kamala Harris and the Media Machine. Here’s Why. (video)
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Konstantin Kisin: Australia ‘on the same trajectory’ as US on identity politics (video)
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Another great launch by Mr Musk, Falcon 9 took Northrop Grumman’s Cygnus supply space craft up into orbit to take extra supplies for the astronauts marooned by Boeing’s problems with their Starliner crewed rocket. Boeing and Northrop Grumman are part of Launch Alliance, the semi-Govt official team competing with SpaceX for Govt launches.
..and Cygnus was no better than Starliner, failing to fire motors to get it up into the ISS orbit. Luckily they could re-burn a few hours later and docked with the ISS this morning.
Describing it as “Private Cygnus freighter..” is rubbish, if the American Govt weren’t behind Northrop and Boeing they’d both be broke! They’re the ‘Official NASA Team’.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYjuWuVdTl4&t=23s
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Major Solar Company Files For Bankruptcy After California Strips Subsidies
https://dailycaller.com/2024/08/06/solar-sunpower-california-bankruptcy-subsidies/
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FWIW
“Shock Revelation: Starliner Can’t Undock From Space Station Safely”
https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024/08/06/shock-revelation-starliner-cant-undock-from-space-station-safely-n3792766
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At the rate they’re going Musk can rescue them with Starship later on..
Some fascinating information in those Ars articles, some of the commentators must be involved in the space industry.
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FWIW – the state of play
https://img.patriotpost.us/01J4HDEAPRS08DZT8V7MJ0E8ER.jpeg?w=1024&dpr=1&q=75
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FWIW
“RFK DESTROYS New Yorker Hit Piece on Him, and I Haven’t Laughed This Hard in Years”
https://pjmedia.com/victoria-taft/2024/08/06/rfk-destroys-the-new-yorkers-hit-piece-on-him-with-hilarious-story-and-im-here-for-it-n4931377
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Katie Hopkins. Saying the Unsayable. The truth behind the riots in the U.K.
Elon Musk Starts War With Starmer as UK Gov Wants to Ban Free Speech on X
‘I Am A Victim Of Two-Tier Policing’ – Leeds Resident In Tears After Being Arrested Over Rioters
What Happened in Birmingham?
Two Tier Policing – didn’t they have that in 1930s Germany?
Spain Was a Warning: What We Can Learn
(videos)
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“Civil War Is Inevitable” Two-Tier Keir Betrays Britain
‘Completely appalling’: Douglas Murray condemns riots raging across the UK
(videos)
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The Riots Across England (video)
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Jeremy Clarkson slams Keir Starmer
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A tip to all you aussi pet shop owners — invest in ducks!
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I’ve seen dogs on surfboards but never ducks on skateboards.
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FWIW
https://michaelsmithnews.typepad.com/.a/6a0177444b0c2e970d02dad0cb9b35200d-800wi
https://michaelsmithnews.typepad.com/.a/6a0177444b0c2e970d02dad0cb9b35200d-800wi
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Died suddenly… I suppose it used to happen, just not as frequently. Young, slim, fit..
“Three-time Maribyrnong mayor and rising star of the Australian Labor Party Sarah Carter has been found dead at her home at the age of 45…The death is not being treated as suspicious.”
https://www.smh.com.au/national/victoria/maribyrnong-councillor-and-former-mayor-sarah-carter-found-dead-20240806-p5k05g.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true
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Not being treated as suspicious is usually media codespeak for a suicide.
A person that age being found dead at home with no obvious cause would normally trigger the coroners involvement and no definitive statements.
I doubt this has anything to do with what you are linking it to.
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“Not being treated as suspicious is usually media codespeak for a suicide.”
About to become a shining light in the Labor Party.. hmm.. that would explain it…
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Dealers Are Scared To Death! Look What They Are Doing with EVs! (video)
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