The lamest UN climate meeting starts with some moonlighting fossil fuels deals “on the side”

UN FCCC COP29

By Jo Nova

It could be the lamest COP meeting yet

Every year thousands of bureaucrats meet in an exotic location for a UN conference to agree not to solve “global warming”. Next week will be the 29th failure. It is the Olympics of Big Government rorts. This is not just a few hundred climate scientists catching up for a weekend, there are forty or fifty thousand grifters meeting, not just for a few days but for two money-sucking weeks. After they’ve used the tax dollars to get there, they sit around and discuss how they will divvy up the loot, the other tax dollars, called “climate finance”, as if the atmosphere wants a loan.

COP29In a devastating blow, this year the EU political Queen Ursula von der Leyen is going to miss the event, which some call a “fatal signal”.

As it happens, Joe Biden and Emmanual Macron are not going either. It just doesn’t have the social cachet these days in the wake of the US election.

This next little story is so emblematic of the corruptocrat blob. A senior member of Azerbaijan’s COP29 team has been caught red handed using the “climate” conference to line up investors in Azerbaijan’s oil and gas fields. The sad truth is, that in terms of the world’s poor, this was probably the most productive event at the conference.

In a secret recording a fake Hong Kong investor said he wanted to sponsor the conference but in return needed to discuss “investment opportunities” in local gas fields — ain’t that just the way the whole climate cartel rolls? Everybody pretending to look after the planet, but really looking out for themselves.

COP29 chief exec filmed promoting fossil fuel deals

A secret recording shows the chief executive of Azerbaijan’s COP29 team, Elnur Soltanov, discussing “investment opportunities” in the state oil and gas company with a man posing as a potential investor.

“We have a lot of gas fields that are to be developed,” he says.

The BBC has been shown documents and secret video recordings made by the human rights organisation, Global Witness.

However, this is the second year in a row the BBC has revealed alleged wrongdoing by the host government.

Where was the BBC for the other 27 conferences? — covering up the crime.

The horse-trading starts Monday. But In a shock, Papua New Guinea has pulled out, calling the event a total waste of time.

“The last three Cop meetings have gone around in circles, producing no tangible results for small island states. Cop29 will be no different, so Papua New Guinea will not participate at the political level,” Tckatchenko said.

Good for you PNG.

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81 comments to The lamest UN climate meeting starts with some moonlighting fossil fuels deals “on the side”

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    David Maddison

    For politicians and public serpents, it’s a dream conference. They get a taxpayer-funded holiday to an exotic location on paid work time plus likely get to ride in one of the hundreds of private jets attendees usually use to attend these “conferences”.

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      Steve4192

      Yep

      I’ll believe in the climate apocalypse when they start holding COP conferences on Zoom … or when they change the menu at the conference to only serve bugs. Until then, don’t piss on my shoes and tell me it’s raining.

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    Graham Richards

    Pretty sure “ the Donald “ will not be there. He doesn’t take kindly to expensive hoaxs!!

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      cohenite

      Trump will end this. For global boiling (h/t António Guterres) madness to end the US must lead the way. Only Trump can do this.

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        el+gordo

        Totally agree, Donald has the charismatic authority to turn the world upside down.

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          Ted1

          If the Youtube I saw was not fake he has already done it.

          Somebody put a link here yesterday in which he declared that the Global Warming hoax had to be stopped.

          Anybody who doesn’t understand that such a declaration carries authority is in for a surprise.

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        Graham Richards

        When “ the Donald “ gets busy he’ll have the UN ( or what’s left of it ) moving off shore and a lot poorer. Enough of the hoax, let other gullible nations get on with it and pay for it.

        As soon as it starts the majority of western industrialised nations will follow and the whole UN / WEF cabal will wither & die. Sanity will return!

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        Steve4192

        There is speculation that one of Trump’s first acts in office will be to put the Paris Climate Agreement up for a vote in Congress as a treaty. Once it fails to be ratified (as it surely will in a Republican Congress), it cannot ever be resurrected again and the USA will be out of the agreement. Once that happens, the agreement itself will be in jeopardy, as much of it hinges on Uncle Sam showering developing countries with climate cash. The EU will have to raise it’s contributions if it wants to keep the agreement afloat.

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          Well-Informed

          Steve4192. Also time for Donald to tear up the AUKUS scam agreement.

          Why would a nation based on freedom of speech sign up with an authoritarian, fascist, SCIENCE-DENYING shyte-hole like Antonio’s Australiastan?

          In three months time, will the Oz Fascist Workers Party declare nuclear subs to be the work of the devil so as to keep the Harem of Doctors Wives (Teals) on side? Will Americans be banned because they are not all Gay?

          Socialist fashionistas are ALWAYS unreliable, so why would a non-fashionists want to be in alliance with THEM?

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    Graham Richards

    So, PNG isn’t sinking beneath the waves which is sinking all other Pacific islands. Strange that!

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    Is it true that Australia wants to host the next one ?

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      GlenM

      I must attend if that is the case. All of those yummies and a bottle of Veuve Clicquot- maybe two to set me up for a rampage (he,he). The pretence of these arrogant green socialists.

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    David Maddison

    I am in Nepal now. Three people were invited but 30 are going. A huge waste of resources for this poor country.

    https://myrepublica.nagariknetwork.com/news/cop-29-three-invited-but-30-going-to-azerbaijan-from-nepal-672d9c141d145.html

    By Tapendra Karki
    12 hours ago

    KATHMANDU, Nov 8: The United Nations Climate Conference to be held in Azerbaijan will see 30 people from Nepal participating, instead of the three originally planned. The Ministry of Forests and Environment (MoFE) has nominated over two dozen employees, many with no relevant roles, along with unrelated individuals, as experts, to enable 30 people to attend the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC).

    Along with ministry staff, Forest and Environment Minister Ain Bahadur Shahi’s personal secretary Lek Bikram Shahi and his son Rajendra Shahi are also attending the conference. According to a source at the ministry, apart from the minister, secretary, and division chief, none of the other employees have any relevant tasks. The source added that since it’s “a huge jamboree”, ministry staff have been seeking support from international development partners to attend the event.

    Forest ministry Spokesperson Badri Raj Dhungana confirmed that some employees are going to the conference. “All relevant employees will attend, but the organizing body will cover expenses for only three people,” he said.

    When asked about the expenses for others, he said he was not informed about that. “I don’t know about the others; those who wish to go may have made arrangements for their expenses. This is just a continuation of the practice from the previous conferences,” Dhungana said. When questioned about how the Nepal government and its employees maintain their dignity while traveling abroad under the sponsorship of development partner organizations, he declined to comment, stating he had no knowledge on the matter. According to the source at the ministry, various development partner organizations are being pressured to sponsor the foreign trip.

    SEE LINK FOR REST

    My bolding. At least here they have real journalists who are prepared to ask questions.

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    Greg in NZ

    NB. Musical Satire – sung to
    ‘Israelites’ by Desmond Dekker & The Aces:

    Get up in thee mornin’
    beggin’ for bread sir,
    so I can buy me another
    billion dollar yacht.
    Poor, poor me, the Corruptocrats.

    Spinnin’ all me jargon
    quotin’ from thee Hokey Schtick,
    so we can blame Western Man for big
    Mike’s Nature Trick.
    Poor, poor me, the Corruptocrats.

    Initially I was going to call them the Coprolites (fossilised animal faeces) but Jo’s wonderful turn-of-phrase, Corruptocrats, seemed more fitting. Please feel free to add more verses (while you can).

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    TdeF

    The question is not whether extra CO2 heats the earth but whether the CO2 increase is man made.
    Trump could order a definitive statement. Fossil fuel CO2 is directly identifiable because it has no C14. No ice cores needed. That would end the hoax forever.

    At the same time, if CO2 is a problem, which it isn’t, in 36 years the world has spend $50Trillion on CO2.
    And achieved nothing.

    Why not ask for an accounting? Like any business. The US alone has spent trillions. What is the effect on CO2? Zero.

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      TdeF

      Emissions are not CO2. The implication is that they increase CO2 in the atmosphere. But most, 98% of CO2 is in the ocean. So as 30x more soluble than oxygen, 98% of all CO2 emissions go straight into the oceans which cover the planet.

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      el+gordo

      Will Happer might get asked to rejoin the NSC.

      ‘In 2018, Donald Trump appointed him to the National Security Council to counter evidence linking carbon dioxide emissions to global warming.’ (wiki)

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        TdeF

        He has proven additional CO2 does not cause warming. But he also believes wrongly that the increase in CO2 is man made. I asked him for proof and he ultimately said it was a ‘personal opinion’. I have no idea why? The conjecture was examined in 1958 and proven wrong.

        So perhaps he has given ground as part of negotiation. Or perhaps to get to his own specialist area of spectral modelling? Few would understand this definitive argument.

        I prefer black and white facts. To agree that mankind is increasing CO2 is to lose the entire argument from the start.

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      DOC

      Being a bit of a dummy in all this, shouldn’t the world be measuring C14 CO2 continuously as a base measure and C12 similarly. The other thing is presumably both CO2 Cisotopes are absorbed into the oceans at the same rate. It would be interesting to see if the eluted CO2 from the oceans carries the same ratios as the atmospheric [CO2] as a guide to see if there is a preferential uptake of either by oceanic metabolic processes such as by marine life and geological processes. One accepts the argument about the very limited, low concentration range at which CO2 may be involved as a GHG, but everything possible needs to be known about the complete CO2 cycle in these matters.

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    Penguinite

    A total Waste of Time (TWT) but glorious for time wasting blood sucking bureaucrats figure heads, nincompoops, knuckleheaded and general F**kwits. I suppose KC3 will be there?

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    ExWarmist

    The ‘Joy,’ has left the building…

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    Yet another UN-United Nations Conference. Making fastidious climate rules for the weary world to follow whilst climate delegate elites live it up gorging on luxury food and relaxing in the sublime comforts of posh accommodation. It’s not about making the world a better place, but it is about junketeering and entitlement.

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    David Maddison

    I couldn’t find any information on the size of the Australian delegation.

    Does anyone have any idea?

    I’d imagine it would be 100 to 200 at least.

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    David Maddison

    Australia has a special pavilion at COP29 and even a Web page describing it.

    The BS is strong.

    Do you think they ever read or understand it or realise how stupid it sounds?

    Emperor Xi, the world’s largest CO2 emitter by far (and exempt from emissions restrictions) is rolling on the floor laughing.

    https://www.dcceew.gov.au/cop29aus

    The Australian Pavilion

    The Australian Pavilion at COP29 is an important piece of our international effort. It is a space to tell their diverse stories of Australia’s climate action, to build partnerships and to advance international cooperation. It also serves as a home-away-from-home for Australians at COP.

    The Australian Pavilion hosts dozens of events throughout the conference, exploring the many facets of our shared efforts. The full events schedule will be posted on the Australian Government’s UNFCCC Engagement Hub. Events are livestreamed, too. This is Australia’s space, and we are pleased to share it with Aussies no matter where you are.

    Australia’s action on climate change

    Australia is working hard at home and with our international partners to accelerate ambitious climate action.

    Our Net Zero Plan aims to reduce emissions across the economy. We are transitioning the energy sector to provide renewable, secure, reliable and affordable power. We are also investing in new clean industries, like renewable hydrogen and green steel, to create jobs and help with the global switch to renewables.

    Alongside those efforts, we are supporting community adaptation and boosting resilience to help face the impacts of climate change that is already happening.

    List of Australia’s events:

    https://unfccc-cop.dcceew.gov.au/cop29pavilion

    Australia’s “climate action”.

    https://www.dcceew.gov.au/climate-change/international-climate-action/unfccc-cop

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      David Maddison

      Look at the first three days of Australia’s program at COP. The BS is strong.

      Monday 11 November
      9:00am-4:00pm – Stories from Australia
      Join us in the Australian Pavilion to watch and hear stories of Australian climate action. Featuring short documentaries, issue showcases and more.

      Tuesday 12 November
      10:30am – A pathway to successful hydrogen and CCUS economies

      1:30pm – Article 12: Action for Climate Empowerment: What it is and why it matters

      3:00pm – Rising waters, rising voices: Pathways to climate justice amid polycrises

      4:30pm – Pacific Political Climate Change Champions: High Level Panel

      Wednesday 13 November
      9:00am – The importance of Indigenous leadership and approaches to climate solutions

      10:30am – Gender, climate and security for First Nations and Pacific women

      12:00pm – The role of jobs and skills in transitioning to a Green Economy

      1:30pm –  Indigenous Decision-Making Workshop and Climate Initiatives

      3:00pm – Natural capital accounting: Informing the nature positive transition

      6:00pm – The International Climate Councils Network (ICCN)

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      Graham Richards

      When “ the Donald “ gets busy he’ll have the UN ( or what’s left of it ) moving off shore and a lot poorer. Enough of the hoax, let other gullible nations get on with it and pay for it.

      As soon as it starts the majority of western industrialised nations will follow and the whole UN / WEF cabal will wither & die. Sanity will return!

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      TdeF

      Thanks. Here are just a few of the major events in the Australian pavilion over the week and a half..

      Pacific Political Climate Change Champions: High Level Panel

      The importance of indigenous leadership and approaches to climate solutions

      Indigenous decision-making workshop and climate initiatives

      Blended finance for climate action

      From red rock to green metal: decarbonizing the worldss largest iron-ore-to-steel supply chain

      Supercharging Australia’s energy innovation system

      Pacific girls in a changing climate

      Principles and practices for indigenous engagement in water management

      From mine to market: Capturing the green premium to accelerate the net zero transition

      Accelerating ocean-climate action through 100% sustainable ocean management

      Champions of equality: building a gender-transformative climate future in the Pacific.

      Implementing a just transition: lessons from Australia and the world

      – – – – – – – –
      It has everything. Indigenous decision making, Girls, Ocean management, Gender equality. And of course making steel without making carbon dioxide.

      Progressive Australia on display! High quality Australian waffle! Champions in the Pacific!

      No science, but a trip to the Caspian. The original home of the booming world oil industry.

      And hopefully the world will learn from our extraordinary aboriginal science as we explain how Australian indigenous people transition back to the stone age.

      All funded by our world leading massive exports of coal and iron ore.

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        Ronin

        “Principles and practices for indigenous engagement in water management.”

        I am suitably curious as to what part our indigenous cousins play in the management of the water cycle.

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      Plain Jane

      No amount of creative writing and use of all prescribed buzz words is going to make what they say true .

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    Just saw a News piece on SKY News this morning. A new study just released, shows that the self appointed Elites and Non Elites who travel around planet Earth in private planes are increasingly causing much more CO2 emissions than commercial plane flights do (as flown by us Plebs).

    What a bunch of hypocrites. Do as I say and not what I do. Oh, and don’t eat meat and have fun either. So their CO2 emissions don’t count but the ones generated by us Plebs do. LOL. Well, guess what? CO2 is plant food and is regulated by the planet. This planet has always had Climate Change but CO2 is NOT THE CAUSE.

    “An increase in private jet flights contributed to a 46 per cent rise in the industry’s annual carbon dioxide emissions between 2019 and 2023, say climate scientists.

    New research published in the journal Communications Earth & Environment, analysed the habits of 18,655,789 private flights over four years to understand the role of private aviation in climate change.

    It found leisure trips to holiday destinations and major international sporting events had driven a surge in private flying.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/private-jets-used-like-taxis-are-making-huge-contribution-to-climate-change/ar-AA1tKLmd

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    David Maddison

    Those who follow and attend COP meetings would have been called camp followers back in the day.

    From Wikipedia:

    Camp followers are civilians who follow armies. There are two common types of camp followers; first, the spouses and children of soldiers, who follow their spouse or parent’s army from place to place; the second type of camp followers have historically been informal army service providers, servicing the needs of encamped soldiers, in particular selling goods or services that the military does not supply—these have included cooking, laundering, liquor, nursing, sexual services, and sutlery.

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    What is also so ironic is that Azerbaijan is Oil and Gas rich. Now, I wonder what they will do next after this ‘Con Flab’ (with the emphasis on Con) has finished. How many solar panel and wind chopper plantations will they build? My prediction is NONE.

    Oh and BTW, I did not need to model it so it must be ‘kosher’ IMHO. More LOL.

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    Look at this link, and it’s to a page of Wikipedia entries, so sorry about that.

    Now see the top one there. UNFCCC. Well, that used to be the only one, and since then, in the intervening years, all the others have been ‘hived off’ from that original, and ALL of them have become so monumentally huge. Okay, for the sake of this exercise, (but only to show you something) take that top link and when it opens, see under the Heading, alongside the word ….. ‘Read’, there is a link to ‘View history’. Take that link (umm, just to see it)

    Okay, when that opens, above the bolded text near the top, titled ‘Compare selected revisions’, is this site’s way back machine, with every revision ever made to the site, going back to when it started back in August of 2001. Where it says 500, that’s 500 revisions to a page, and there are many, many pages of those 500 entries to a page.

    The Conference of Parties was originally in this UNFCCC entry, and then when the site for The Kyoto Protocol opened, it was moved there, and then it (COP) also became so huge, they hived it off to a site of its own.

    I’ve written Posts at my own home site detailing both the UNFCCC, Kyoto, COP, et al over the years, because right from when I started it interested me that there was just one short entry of ten words at these sites that ‘distilled’ the whole thing down to just the money. That was where it listed the Countries participating, now 198, and detailing them in a sort of ranking. They singled out a very special select group of just 23 Countries, all of them Industrialised, Australia among them, and classified them as Annex ll Countries with the bracketed ten word addition …..(Developed Countries which pay for all costs of developing Countries)

    That got my interest right up front.

    Okay, incidental to this, and from one of my own early Posts on the subject at this link, when I first starting writing about it, take this link to what the page was in October of 2008. Scroll down (only a little way) to the heading ….. Annex I and Annex II Countries, and Developing Countries.

    Scroll down a little to the last sentence in that section, and it’s about President Bush not ratifying the Protocol. It also mentions Bill Clinton there as well, somewhat obscurely. Well that one sentence has been edited so many times. It started out as just mentioning Bush as, well, the bad guy for not ratifying it, then later it added Clinton to the sentence, then changed to his (Bush) predecessor, (minus the word Clinton) and then back to just Bush again, leaving Clinton unmentioned at all.

    Now, what that was all about was that Clinton wanted to ratify the Kyoto Protocol, under the aegis of his Vice President who he sent off to that COP at Kyoto in 1997. Gore brought back the Protocol, and went to submit it, backed by Clinton to The Senate, where as Vice President, Gore was the President of The Senate.

    The Senate had already passed Byrd Hagel so would not ratify The Kyoto Protocol, That Senate vote to (effectively) not ratify Kyoto was ….. 95-0, so it didn’t even get one vote, not even from the Democrats.

    So, while it was the Clinton Administration who originally failed to ratify, all the blame, well, at Wikipedia anyway, was sheeted home to the supposed climate destroyer George Bush. The Wikipedia entries changed so many times across the years I went back and looked, and has now disappeared from the site, as has the bracketed ….. pay all costs sentence as well.

    And you wonder why I don’t particularly like using that Wikipedia site. In this case it has become so monumentally huge, and hived off into so many different sites, you can hide anything that might look a little unpleasant, shall we say, in plain sight.

    Tony.

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      Dave in the States

      Note that prior to 2015, the constitutionally mandated role of the US Senate in ratifying treaties was still respected. Then Obama flew to Paris and it was not even accorded lip service.

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    Ross

    I was going to ask, which idiots from Australia are going? But, DM at #11 beat me to it. 100-200 !!!!!!!!!!. WTF!! Geez, Albanese getting flight upgrades I can somewhat stomach, but 100 Aussies at this junket is just obscene.

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    David Maddison

    Oddly, Saint Greta is boycotting this one because she says it’s an authoritarian regime.

    That’s odd. Leftists love authoritarianism. I think she’s confused. There’s been an error in her programming.

    I think it’s the petrol (gasoline) she doesn’t like, not the authoritarianism.

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/greta-thunberg-cop29

    Greta Thunberg Won’t Attend UN Climate Talks in ‘Yet Another Authoritarian Petrol State’

    “We can’t legitimize COP meetings in their current form,” Thunberg said. “The last three years, they’ve taken place in authoritarian regimes, and holding them in such places leads nowhere.”

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      Tel

      I think she’s confused. There’s been an error in her programming.

      Nothing that hypocrisy can’t fix!

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      Honk R Smith

      What’s interesting is the use of the word ‘authoritarian’.
      Now depends on the lips that utter it.
      Some propose authoritarian measures to stop ‘misinformation’ so that we be saved from authoritarians.’
      What does a ‘vaccine’ do now?
      Half of America either voted for or against fascism.

      A vaccine, in spite of the ‘Global Health’ establishment, retains its’ 1968 definition.
      Ivermectin was never just for horses.

      It’s my personal view is that we are not just experiencing a disagreement.
      We are in midst of purposely manipulated hysterical quasi-religious globally organized ideological movement perpetrated by a not yet fully identified consortium.
      (We here in the Climate skeptic community were witness to it’s evolution.)

      Reformation 2.0 is only getting started, and Martin Luther Trump is about to nail his complaints to the door of the Cathedral of The Five Eyes.

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    Greenas

    Trump has no time for the globull warming scam and neither does Vance which if things go right that’s 12 years of no American $$ and more importantly 12 years of the USA not participating in the scam .

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    Dave in the States

    The blame game has begun on the Harris loss. There are myriad reasons proposed, but not a word on the blame to be leveled on Dem/UN/EU climate/energy scams. The Dem’s energy/climate agenda was a major thing during Obama’s Third Term. It was the center piece it all was wrapped up around. Remember Day One?

    “We are going to end fossil fuels. I guarantee it.”

    Killed Key Stone with a stroke of a pen.
    Got the US back into Paris with a stroke of the pen.
    Canceled all the drilling permits on public lands.
    Causing a quadrupling of the price at the pump during the first year. (Think that caused some in inflation?)

    “We are going through this amazing transition.”

    Followed two years later by draining the Strategic Reserves, to cynically bring the prices down a bit in time for the mid terms.

    EV mandates.

    The US auto industry may not survive.

    The “Inflation Reduction Act”, which caused more inflation, was really Big Back Better, which was really AOC’s Green New Deal Renamed, which was really the UN’s Net Zero agenda.

    Of course the MSM hid all that during the election cycle, and the Dems carefully avoided any aspect of climate policy becoming a talking point, or Trump may have gotten 400 electoral votes.

    Now mums the word, lest the graft and the gravy train become derailed.

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      Harris had no Policies and could not answer any question that were put to her. She was never appointed at the Democrat Convention by the delegates. The Deep State tried to rail road her in but not only that, the dopes left it way too late before the curtain was pulled back and the World, let alone the USA, could see that Sleepy Jo was not fit for Office let alone re-election.

      Job done and Game over.

      The Democrats no longer represent the working person. And LayBore here in OZ do not represent the working people.

      Upgrade/Airbus Albo and all the other marxists including that lunatic Adam Bandit of the green blobs (and the Teals) should soon be out the back door to the rubbish dump.

      Good riddance to them one and all.

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    David Maddison

    With President Trump’s leadership the anthropogenic global warming scam will be destroyed except in the more fanatically woke and committed self-destructive nations such as Australia.

    The question is, what scam will the Left be onto next, apart from expensive, untested, experimental medicinal products?

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      It is game over for the Lefties. First the NT and now QLD. And QLD is supporting Coal Fired Power Stations in QLD. They have lots of coal and common sense.

      Airbus Albo is on the nose and Trump will push him further out (of his depth).

      Onwards and upwards the real Australia.

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      DOC

      For the Albo government to persist with such economically and socially destructive policies in the name of controlling the climate even after Trump has opened up science again to back his argument in pulling out of the destructive charade, would lead the labor party to even bigger destruction at the next election. The fate of the Democrats is staring Albo in the face, but we all know he is totally blinded by his ego and his now discredited past creed. Once the $Trillion dollar waste is exposed, causing so much social hardship for a recognised false cause, less than the 30% welded-on Labor supporters remaining to vote for it, the greens and hopefully the TEALs will evaporate.

      Trump will also break the current increasing transfer of national control by Western elites to undemocratic central organisations like the UN. This will breakup the national cartels feasting on the policies of leftist elitists by exposing the duplicitous actions against the national interest which has been in effect during the prolonged ‘peace’ since the fall of the Berlin Wall. ‘Idle hands’ and all lead to greater power seeking by those with already so much bureaucratic power over us, enforced by massive censorship and lawfare against citizens. People will realise progress is better and safer when there is the ‘chaos’ of free thought and free speech versus Troy Bramston’s opinion in today’s ‘The Australian’ about Trump being dangerous and producing chaos.

      It was that ‘chaos’ that delivered 4 years of peace (relative) in the world, and saved the NATO from being unarmed in the face of the rampant Putin. It was that ‘dangerous’ ‘chaotic’ Trump that shut down Iran. The West needs Trump and he doesn’t need be there at all!

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    looks like Trump will win the House crucial 219 figure allowing him
    govern. The Economist shows Republicans tally= 217 versus Democrats 206 with 13 seats still in play
    and Republicans well ahead in several of them…Democrats need to win all of them but Republicans only
    need two. https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/results/house

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    Jock

    PNG are just miffed that the money hadnt started to flow.

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    Ronin

    So all the oil sheikhs will be flying in there in their private jets , why not do some oil and gas deals while there. LOL

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