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For those commenters who are following the news and proceedings in detail as it travels through the cogs and gates of parliament, please share your thoughts on this thread as it unfolds. Thanks to those who have the time to follow the details. I’ve moved relevant comments from other threads to here. 7.8 out of 10 based on 4 ratings October 11th, 2011 | Tags: Australian Politics, Carbon Tax | Category: Global Warming |  Print This Post | | The Australian government asks for submissions, gets around 4500, mostly against the tax, then ignores almost all of them. It’s just another form of suppression and censorship, a sign that the elites don’t give a fig what we think. Menzies House is calling it an utter disgrace. “In a shocking and historically unprecedented suppression of political expression, a staggering four thousand five hundred Australians have had their voices silenced by Australia’s political elite in the Labor-dominated Joint Select Committee on Australia’s Clean Energy Future Legislation.” It shows what we all knew all along: the submission process was a merely legal formality, a scent of democracy. This is a new low, and based on current performance, is just what we’d expect. They can’t justify this tax, they can’t debate the science, but they can ram it through. The only way “forward” is with whitewash, erasers, and the all-purpose delete key. So figure what was going on in the minds of the chief censors: a/ Abject desperation: We’re doomed! (Never let the plebs know that we got thousands of well written, detailed submissions that were against the tax, so find any half-baked pathetic excuse to not publish or count most […] October 10th, 2011 | Tags: Australian Politics, Carbon Tax | Category: Global Warming | Print This Post | | I‘m peppered with emails asking me if articles like this one (which claims there is no Greenhouse Effect at all on Venus) could be right. Michael Hammer has some 20 patents in spectroscopy, and he explains why the Greenhouse Effect — where CO2 and other gases absorb and emit infra red — is very real, and backed by empirical evidence. The calculations using the Stefan-Boltzmann Law on the atmosphere of Earth and Venus, argue that the Greenhouse Effect is not-detectable. But not-detectable (by that method) does not “prove” the effect is zero. Other methods — like satellite observations of Earth’s atmosphere, and countless lab experiments, tell us that the Greenhouse Effect is real. (The Stefan-Boltzmann Law is used to create the first graph below). Huffman’s calculations suggest other factors are more important than greenhouse gases (with which we heartily agree) and that Hansen et al were barking up the wrong tree by pretending that Venus “shows” us anything much about the Greenhouse Effect. (Indeed, the IPCC mention “Venus” in their first Assessment Report back in 1990 as one of the three key reasons.) So here in middle-of-the-road centrist land, the people who claim Earth could become more like Venus are […] October 9th, 2011 | Tags: Greenhouse Effect, Hammer (Michael), Slayers, Venus | Category: Global Warming | Print This Post | | Yesterday I wrote that the media is a rubber stamp for government and green propaganda, and today, the perfect example of certified nonsense appeared. Not only is the headline 100% incorrect, “Why conservative white men are more likely to deny climate change”, the body of the story barely tries to add a caveat. The poorly designed study used the ambiguous phrase “global warming” instead of “climate change”, which is not much better. Ask me if I believe in global warming, and I’ll ask you — warming since when? The journalist, Adriana Barton, has dutifully repeated Orwellian newspeak, and wins today’s award for The Destruction of the English Language. Can anyone name a single white guy who denies the climate changes? (And more to the point, for pedantic trolls, is that a person who is a well known skeptic, i.e. do they matter?) 8.6 out of 10 based on 7 ratings […] Two professors of sociology think they can explain why “Climate Deniers” are winning. But Riley E. Dunlap and Aaron M. McCright start from the wrong assumption and miss the bleeding obvious: the theory was wrong, the evidence has changed, and thousands of volunteers have exposed it. The real question sociologists will be studying for years to come is: how was an exaggerated scare, based on so little evidence, poor reasoning and petty namecalling, kept alive for two whole decades? Climate Change Scare Machine Cycle: see how your tax dollars are converted into alarming messages See your tax dollars converted into their scare. Click for a larger image. Reference: Climate Money, Science and Public Policy Institute, 2009. …. The Full PDF version The key points 1. The money and vested interests on the pro-scare side is vastly larger, more influential, and more powerful than that on the skeptical side. Fossil fuel and conservative-think-tanks are competing against most of the world financial houses, the nuclear and renewable energy industry, large well financed green activists (WWF revenue was $700m last year), not to mention whole government departments, major political parties, universities dependent on government funding, the BBC (there is no debate), the […] October 6th, 2011 | Tags: Climate Money, Coercion, JoNova's Favourites | Category: AGW socio-political, Big-Government, Global Warming | Print This Post | | Perhaps this insurance costs too much? Between Jan 2010 and March 2011, allegedly, 23 Honduran farmers have been murdered by the owners of a UN-accredited palm oil plantation. “EU carbon trading rocked by mass killings” At issue are the reported murders of 23 local farmers who tried to recover land, which they say was illegally sold to big palm oil plantations, such as Grupo Dinant, in a country scarred by widespread human rights abuses. In July, a report by an International Fact Finding Mission was presented to the European Parliament’s Human Rights Sub-committee, alleging that 23 peasants, one journalist and his partner, had all been murdered in the Bajo Aguán region, between January 2010 and March 2011. The deaths were facilitated by the “direct involvement of private security guards from some of the local companies who are complicit with police and military officials,” the report said. In some cases it cited “feigned accidents” in which peasants were run over by security guards working for two named palm oil businessmen. In other cases, the farmers were simply shot, or “disappeared”. Strangely, though the report was released in July, it’s become news now that a Green MEP and EU policy makers announced […] October 4th, 2011 | Tags: Precautionary Principle, Unintended Consequences | Category: Big-Government, Global Warming | Print This Post | | We now have inline comments and a not-very well sorted out Menu system. Thoughts welcome. Please report problems and experiment on this thread. Cheers, Jo PS: As new etiquette for the nested comments, please resist the temptation to queue-jump threads by just replying to the first comment (except for this thread). PPS: Some entertaining comment-gremlins turned up (instead of trolls). Well, we had nested comments on this site for a few hours 🙁 8.2 out of 10 based on 5 ratings Fu and Manabe agree the hot spot is missing GRL June 2011. Yet another study hunted for a form of the missing hot spot– and again the results show the models are unable to make useful predictions. The upward rising trend predicted in the models is of critical importance. The models assume that the 1.1 degrees of warming directly due to CO2 will be tripled by feedbacks from humidity and water vapor. Studies like Fu and Manabe are looking to see if the assumptions built into the models are right. If relative humidity stays constant above the tropics throughout the troposphere, we should see the upper troposphere warm faster than the surface. Fu and Manabe used satellite data rather than weather balloons, and compared the tropical upper troposphere to the lower middle troposphere during 1979 – 2010. (Other papers I’ve written about compared the upper troposphere to the surface, and mainly used weather balloons.) “One of the striking features in GCM‐predicted climate change due to the increase of greenhouse gases is the much enhanced warming in the tropical upper troposphere” Satellites cannot separate out the altitudes at narrow resolutions, as the radiosondes can, but they produce reliable data […] October 3rd, 2011 | Tags: Hot Spot, Missing Hot Spot, Water Vapor | Category: Global Warming | Print This Post | | In Brief: The oceans are not acidic, and will not become acidic in the foreseeable future. Many of the fears and alarming scenarios are based on models. Many scary headlines are based on studies of extreme pH values beyond the range of anything realistic. Incredibly, hundreds of studies show that for pH changes that we are likely to encounter in the next 100 years, there is arguably a net benefit to underwater life if the oceans became a little less alkaline. Alarming fears about unrealistic ocean pH’s “Some ocean pH’s studied were so extreme they are only seen on Star Trek” Studies of how marine life copes with less alkaline conditions include many experiments with water at pH values in a range beyond anything that is likely on planet Earth — they go beyond the bounds of what’s possible. There are estimates that the pH of the ocean has shifted about 0.1 pH unit in the last 200 years, yet some studies consider the effects of water that is shifted by 2 or even 4 entire pH units. Four pH units means 10,000 fold change in the concentration of hydrogen ions). That’s a shift so […] Just so you know, at some point soon we will get the first site upgrade in three years, and … (drum roll)… nested comments! There will be a few other improvements too, but largely things will look similar. It has been a couple of months of work, behind the scenes, to upgrade my sometimes quixotic CSS code. But if the site goes down, or you are not able to add comments for a while in the next few days, it is probably maintenance. Apologies for the inconvenience. Jo 7.8 out of 10 based on 4 ratings Bolt loses and so do all whites, aboriginals, and every citizen of Australia. News: The ABC Andrew Bolt has been found guilty of causing “offense”. Journalist and political commentator Andrew Bolt has been found guilty of breaching the Racial Discrimination Act over two articles he wrote in 2009. Bolt was being sued in the Federal Court by nine Aboriginal people including former ATSIC chairman Geoff Clark, academic Professor Larissa Behrendt, activist Pat Eatock, photographer Bindi Cole, author Anita Heiss, health worker Leeanne Enoch, native title expert Graham Atkinson, academic Wayne Atkinson, and lawyer Mark McMillan. I now know that I can’t speak freely on some topics, even if I thought what I said — uncovering unspoken truths or awkward facts — would help that minority group. Aboriginal people face many challenges. How can their lot be helped by shutting down discussion? If drawing attention to problems, to try and find a solution “offends” some Aboriginal people, by law, now it must not be spoken. Aboriginal people who struggle are thus more likely to continue to suffer if the answer to their pain involves speaking some truth that doesn’t make 100% of them happy. What a curse to bestow upon any […] Submission on the clean energy bill On behalf of all rational people in Australia, I object to the “Clean Energy Bill” because it is rank national insanity. Namely: It’s too large compared to the rest of the world; it’s guaranteed by laws of science to make us poorer; it’s based on a religious dissertation put out by an unaudited foreign committee — and won’t make a jot of difference to the environment (except to encourage bird-blending whale-killing wind-farms and distract us from real environmental problems). It’s too big Australians will pay $391 each in the first year — compared $1.50 each for citizens of the EU, and that’s the cumulative total spread over the last five years. Really. And despite that pathetically small per capita charge, 900 scientific peer reviewed papers and 31,500 scientists agree that even the people of the EU have paid too much. It’s guaranteed to make us poorer Please explain to us again how we will get richer by using energy sources that are two to ten times more expensive? Australia gets 94% […] September 28th, 2011 | Tags: Carbon Tax | Category: Big-Government, Global Warming, Politics | Print This Post | | Every Australian ought to read the Ergas article in The Australian. For non-Australians, it’s a case-study of just how thin and fragile all our democracies are. The government was elected NOT to do this. The Treasury are paid to provide their modeling and assumptions to the Australian people but they won’t. The Labor Party is planning to put in the crippling legislation that can’t be unwound, even if 99% of Australians wanted it to be. No, this is not a master plan to destroy the country, it’s just filthy ambition — to rule at all costs, the nation be damned. The ALP doesn’t particularly want to sacrifice itself over the Carbon Tax, but in clawing for every tiny election advantage (No, you can’t campaign to remove the toxic tax!) they are resorting to breaking unspoken principles of western democracies and revealing something they normally hide in their darkest recesses: their naked disdain for the citizens. It’s the end result of crumbling standards of ethics in parts of the public service, and a lack of intellectual debate within the Labor Party. A mortally wounded, weak government, is a dangerous creature. Where would we be without The Australian? ——————————————————— Lies, deception and […] September 26th, 2011 | Tags: Carbon Tax | Category: Big-Government, Global Warming | Print This Post | | I am annoyed with Ian for coming up with a brilliant book title, and I can’t steal it. All the same, I am looking forward to reading it. You can order the book now for its release in November. Actually, the serious point here is that I am getting reports from parents of students at environmental “science” courses at university level and at high schools, who are not allowed to question their masters without a payback. This is the perfect thread for those discussions of how our education system is being influenced by activists. — Jo how to get expelled from school $29.95 A guide to climate change for pupils, parents and punters Ian Plimer Foreword by Václav Klaus, President of the Czech Republic RELEASED DATE: November 2011 PRE-ORDER TODAY AND HAVE YOUR COPY PERSONALLY SIGNED BY IAN PLIMER Download an order form Are pupils, parents and the public being fed political propaganda on climate change? Now is your chance to find out. Professor Plimer gives 101 simple questions with answers for you to ask teachers, activists, journalists and politicians. The climate industry adjusts the temperature record and withholds raw data, computer codes and […] September 24th, 2011 | Tags: Ian Plimer, Plimer (Ian) | Category: Global Warming | Print This Post | |
The Labor Party claim they think science is important: ”We can’t let this debate be waylaid by people who don’t accept the science,” Ms Gillard said in May. Yet, when Dr Dennis Jensen wanted to table peer reviewed papers on the Parliamentary record this week, Kate Ellis refused to allow it. Jensen is the only PhD scientist in the Australian Parliament and the papers are directly relevant to the policy under discussion. The ALP will accept an unaudited foreign committee report, whole, without question, but not scientific evidence from an elected Australian representative. Who are the climate science deniers? Is it the same team that calls people mindless denigrating names? Ms Gillard said in Parliament in March that Mr Abbott should admit he was ”a climate change denier” The Labor Party denies the science From Dennis Jensen’s press release about the censorship: “I approached Minister Ellis, about tabling some of the scientific evidence I was about to use in my speech”, Dr Jensen said. “The Minister refused without reason my simple request for honest and evidence based parliamentary debate.” “It seems the Labor Party is unwilling to […] Dr David Evans lays out four crucial pieces of evidence, and calls for a debate with Prof Andrew Pitman. But the evidence is so unarguably strong for skeptics, we know that the name-calling-team-who-want-our-money will do anything to avoid a public debate. If the evidence is “overwhelming” why are they so unwilling to explain it? — Jo —————– Submission to the Inquiry into Carbon Tax Pricing Mechanisms Dr David Evans 20 September 2011 Dr David Evans consulted full-time for the Australian Greenhouse Office from 1999 to 2005, and part-time to the Department of Climate Change from 2008 to 2010, modeling Australia’s carbon in plants, debris, mulch, soils, and forestry and agricultural products. Evans is a mathematician and engineer, with six university degrees including a PhD from Stanford University. Global warming has become a scam. Let me explain how it works. It has superficial plausibility. Yes, global warming is occurring. Yes, carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas and levels are rising. And yes, every molecule of carbon dioxide we emit causes some global warming. Many non-scientists think that proves the case, but it doesn’t. In particular, it doesn’t rule out the possibility that carbon dioxide is merely […] September 21st, 2011 | Tags: Andy Pitman, Australian Politics, Carbon Tax, Douglass (David), Evans (David), Evidence, Knox (Robert), Pitman (Andy), Water Vapor | Category: AGW socio-political, Global Warming | Print This Post | | Emails are flying, submissions are flooding in. It’s a nation in uproar. The implications of what Henry Ergas wrote are setting off a wave of fear and anger. People are using words like “sickening”, “shocking” and describing Gillard’s actions as “vindictive” and a “treacherous spoiler”, and using the word treason. There’s a plea: “God help us!” Here’s a few samples of what has been CC’d to me. UPDATE: I should have added that I put the first email up to show just how deep the sense of betrayal runs. I don’t think Gillards actions represent a grand well thought out plot. This is scrabbling desperation to notch up a “success” (the country be damned). Even she advised Rudd to give up the ETS. A weak government is the most dangerous kind. ——————————————————————————————- Dear John, Please drop everything and listen to this: Professor Henry Ergas reveals the hidden deadly dangers in the Carbon Tax legislation to Alan Jones. The vindictive implications for Australia are worse than horrendous. Listen here and be shocked to the core. The shameful and treacherous group (loosely described as the […] by Color CS You know, the one comforting thing about the insanity going on in the UK is that Australia doesn’t seem quite so basket-case, suicidally silly. Actually that’s not really true, both countries are barking mad, but thanks to David Cameron its a little less lonely at the loony farm. Democractic dementia has company. Exhibit A: In 2008 Ministers were aiming to generate 20 per cent of the country’s energy from renewable sources by 2020. Professor MacKay explained back then, that to reach that, they would have to put wind farms over the entirety of Wales. How did the governing class respond? By 2011, the UK Coalition took that crazy renewable target and doubled it. Exhibit B: — Two thirds of Britain’s turbines are fully or partly owned by foreign businesses. — Total subsidies paid to these non-UK owned farms is £523 million. — The subsidies paid to local folk are handy for Dukes and whatnot, and those who have large estates (especially ones they don’t live on) who can pick up the £20,000 a year in subsidies — milked from people who don’t have large estates and are […] Try the absurd Methane Madness if you haven’t already! Discuss how the big Gore event came and went with barely a trace, and marks the fall of the man who set alight much of the Greenhouse Extravaganza. Or there’s the coolest UK summer in 20 years… wiping out masses of blue butterflies. (Where is the Green angst: “Stop the cooling trend — Save the Butterfly — Donate a sunspot?”). More importantly, the US CO2 regulation on hold indefinitely. Or discuss something else 🙂 7 out of 10 based on 3 ratings If the current egregious insanity makes you angry, join us on Sunday at Langley Park. If you have No Confidence in the current Australian Government. Let them know! It doesn’t have to be this way. ELECTION NOW! RALLY THIS SUNDAY, 18th SEPT 2 PM LANGLEY PARK on the PERTH FORESHORE (Terrace Rd near Hill St) MC’d by 6PR’s HOWARD SATTLER David Evans and I will be there. Hope you can come too and bring all your friends.. – Jo Read more for the details….
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