Just another anti-viral
There was a good but small (tiny) study that came out of Israel three weeks ago about a drug called EXO-CD24. The professor in charge claims to have treated 30 out of 30 people who had moderate to severe cases and had near universal success. All, bar one, were able to leave hospital very quickly. CD24 is normally stuck on the outside of immune system cells. By getting EXO-CD in, apparently they can stop the cytokine storm.
Any day now, the mainstream media will let us know. The media may also mention that unlike vaccines the drug EXO-CD24 and according to Professor Nadir Arber, could be scaled up and mass produced within a few months and they could provide enough doses for the World.
Has Israel found the cure for Covid?
“To date, the preparation has been tried with great success on 30 severe patients, in 29 of whom the medical condition improved within two to three days and most of them were discharged home within three to five days. The 30th patient also recovered but after a longer time,” the hospital reports.
“The drug is based on exosomes, [vesicles] that are released from the cell membrane and used for intercellular communication. We enrich the exosomes with 24CD protein. This protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and has a known and important role in regulating the immune system,” explained Dr. Shiran Shapira, director of the laboratory of Prof. Nadir Arber, who has been researching the CD24 protein for over two decades.
“The preparation is given by inhalation, once a day, for only a few minutes, for five days,” Shapira said.
The media may also mention that unlike vaccines the drug EXO-CD24, can work in hours, not weeks. This is only a phase one trial (just proving it does not hurt the people it is given to). It may not survive Phase II and III. But if it does, will we see prime time daily reports of the latest results. Or how about free advertising to get people to enroll for trials, with breathless excitement when a planeload arrives with another delivery?
Or is that just what happens with vaccines?
Welcome to the Age of Antivirals. If CD24 isn’t The One, there will be something else. If CD24 doesn’t work against Covid, it may help against many other viruses (or immune disorders). The researchers have a mechanism in mind. So this is not just a random drug from a test tube array, though now is not the time to talk about 95% cure rates.
Netanyahu is calling it a miracle drug. Jair Bolsonaro is already seeking emergency use for this. The Greek President is interested.
But Big Pharma don’t seem to be. Imagine a cheap reliable treatment was available that helped most people. Getting vaccines might not seem quite so important.
If some respectable countries start to achieve something very meaningful on national scales, will that be the day the Western Media and medical swamp have to admit we have all kinds of tools at our disposal. Not just vaccines.
h/t Charles.
Sounds good but they’ll (Governments) never go for it.
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Gotta love Israel and the Jewish people who do real things in science, tech, engineering, medicine, music, the arts, etc. what a pity so many didn’t survive to their potential over time. We are Catholic/plus others, but some of our best and closest friends are from the Judaic persuasion, because we share a sense of humour and minds of inquiry.
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During my long career as a journeyman musician, twice I’ve had to resort to guitar teaching as a supplement for my income.
The second time was back in the late 90s at a Jewish college in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney.
As I only had about ten students per week (my choice) it’s interesting that one of those ten is now a Sky News presenter, and another is an internationally renowned bass player.
Amongst that ten I’m sure that there are other examples of success that I’m unaware of.
These kids were on a path to success from day one. They were brought up to believe in success, as opposed to failure.
I asked one middling guitar student how his weekend was. He replied that he had gone to Melbourne with his Dad to buy a plane. When I expressed amazement, he replied, ‘we’ve already got one’.
As Maree said, ‘gotta love Israel and the Jewish people’.
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The Left are now cooperating with Big Pharma and Big Government to deny the use of simple, effective safe treatments like this.
The reason?
For the Left, C-19 is the gift that keeps on giving. It is an unlimited opportunity to control people and destroy economies. It is much more powerful than the anthropogenic global warming fraud ever was.
It is everything the Left need as an excuse to introduce an Orwellian society and they are exploiting that with a vengeance. E.g. notice how many or most restrictions will remain in place even after the vaccine rollout?
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I would feel better about something made in Israel than other sources. Does that make sense?
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Given that it is a treatment.
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I agree GlenM but my point was that the Left oppose these simple effective inexpensive treatments such as this Israeli one, for the reasons I stated.
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That is so David.
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The vaccines in the USA are on ’emergency use certification’. AS soon as there is a working therapeutic then these Emergency Use Certified vaccines must stop being made or distributed. This was the reason for the early discounting of Hydroxychloroquine had that been agreed to work as a therpeutic “warp speed” would have had to stop.
All Hydroxychloroquine was doing was acting as a zinc ionophore – helping intERcellular zinc to cross the cell walls and be intRAcellular zinc. Inside the cells the inTRAcellular zinc blocks the hijacking of the ribosomes by RNA viruses preventing them replicating that includes influenza (all variants), SARS-CoV-2, Polio and other RNA viruses.
There is a a complex mix of venal, commercial, regulatory and other issues
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Yes.
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Absolutely spot on.
The Jewish nation still believes in the 10 commandments — the sixth commandment being “Thou Shalt Not Murder”. That commandment is the diametric opposite of “the Ends justify the means” and “the earth’s sustainable population is 500 million”.
Jewish medicine can be trusted far more than Bill Gates, WHO and UN.
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This latest from Paul Craig Roberts certainly underscores your sentiments David.
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Covid19 is a nice convenient test run for the left, ever notice how the three labor govts in OZ are the ones who come down first and hardest when one person shows an infection.
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You’re right! The coronavirus gave them the acuity and urgency to implement the things that “climate change” never did.
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This is interesting because of two points..
1) Vaccines do not provide perfect protection because the covid virus changes. This ‘treatment’ provides backup protection. If I understand the article, the treatment stops the deadly reaction that covid causes in the lungs by training the lung cells to not over react.
I would assume the training of the lung cells, could not harm the patient. Vaccines can invoke a dangerous immune response. This is a particular risk for covid vaccine, because covid was designed to invoke dangerous immune responses. That is how it hurts/kill us.
So this five simple dose treatment, changes people at a microbiological level, so their lung cells will no longer over react to a covid attack and cause lung damage.
This is a quote from the article.
“She said the experimental treatment has two unique characteristics. The first is that it inhibits the over-secretion of cytokines. The second is that it is delivered directly to the lungs and therefore has no systemic side effects that injected or oral drugs can cause.
“Even if the vaccines perform their function, and even if no new mutations are produced then still in one way or another the corona will remain with us,” said Arber, director of the medical center’s Integrated Cancer Prevention Center. “To this end, we have developed a unique drug, EXO-CD24.”
Arber added that this advanced preparation “can be produced quickly and efficiently and at a very low cost in every pharmaceutical facility in the country, and in a short time globally.””
And Point 2…..
It is cheap and easy to manufacture the treatment.
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Bill Gates does not approve !! /sarc.
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Let’s hope Trump doesn’t endorse it – the media would cancel it immediately. They’d probably get Surgesphere to produce a bogus study proving CD24 is a deadly poison.
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Daniel Andrews insists all cures to be subject to 250 years, multigenerational testing. Ready-set-go for year 2270. (What did happen to the hydroxychloroquine trial they said they were doing in Vic?) Non-vaccine-vaccines perfectly ok only if they promise to prevent one strain only, for a short period only, and have been tested for under one year. Guided by sciency stuff you wouldn’t understand.
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Whoops – for ‘prevent’ read ‘suppress a life-threatening effect of’
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Big Pharma just want to keep us all alive till we’re 100 years old surviving on their chemicals. They don’t want us to be cured of our ills, but just keeping us alive with their expensive meds while sucking up our pensions and salaries.
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An anti-viral designed for a specific virus works on all strains of that same virus. A vaccine may not be efficacious for strains. That’s why we have a new cocktail of vaccines each autumn, and sometimes these don’t even work.
Hydroxychloroquine is effective on corona viruses as was confirmed in-vitro in 2015 during research for the SARS virus. The current pandemic is a SARS virus variant, probably manipulated inside the Wuhan lab.
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Just make sure Trump doesn’t say it’s good or the west will never go for for it.
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Mr. Trump needs to say that masks are good for you.
Also the Camela Harris is good for you.
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And in the same spirit President Trump also needs to say Biden is the legitimately elected president.
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O/T but priceless (IMO)
Re Kirsti Noem, governor of South Dakota
“B.A. from South Dakota State University which means that unlike the Ivy Leagues, she might have learned how to think rather than taught what to say.”
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/02/28/south-dakota-is-the-only-state-that-never-ordered-a-single-business-or-church-to-close/#comment-1415655
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I watched her address at CPAC. It was measured, informative, firm and well targeted. Her story about her father, who died in a farm accident when she was 22, was a sensitive, personal story that demonstrated her resilience. Her State (South Dakota) has a death rate half of NY State and she has never closed a school or a business. She is some lady and, boy, does she look good on a horse while wearing a Stetson! She has a long way to go and needs to get into Federal politics soon.
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The Israelis are a clever bunch.
Here is a second approach to covid Virus hunt-n-kill which could also be promising:
https://www.israel21c.org/downgrading-covid-19s-threat-to-that-of-the-common-cold/
Enjoy
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Trust the Israelis.
Covid RNA Vaccines: Already More Than 1000 Post-Vaccination Deaths. If America, Europe and Britain are allowed to access this data , why is the Australian media uninterested.
https://principia-scientific.com/covid-rna-vaccines-already-more-than-1000-post-vaccination-deaths/
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1,000 deaths out of how many people took the vaccine.
Out of those people who got the vaccine,how many were over 65, and did their deaths exceed the “general” rate of demise from all causes for people over 65.
Generally in the US, the first group of prioritized vaccinations were over 65.
If you have all those numbers, it would be interesting, otherwise, not so much.
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This is not a surprise.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/01/no_author/professor-dolores-cahill-why-people-will-start-dying-a-few-months-after-the-first-mrna-vaccination
There were 6 rna viruses which caused human illness. Covid is the seventh. Since the illnesses were uncommonly “common colds” vaccines were not created. It was during the research the cytokine storm was discovered
But of course, that’s not a topic we are to be advised of. Population Control is the agenda. So anything which kills is part of it.
It’s one of the two reasons I’m not going to be vaccinated …
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I believe the majority of us are aware of the importance of vaccines.
How does the Johnson & Johnson vaccine compare to other coronavirus vaccines? 4 questions answered
16 hours ago Charles Rotter
Maureen Ferran, Rochester Institute of Technology
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has authorized the use of the Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine in adults. Maureen Ferran, a virologist at the Rochester Institute of Technology, explains how this third authorized vaccine works and explores the differences between it and the Moderna and Pfizer–BioNTech vaccines that are already in use.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/02/27/how-does-the-johnson-johnson-vaccine-compare-to-other-coronavirus-vaccines-4-questions-answered/
Has Israel found the cure for Covid?
Notwithstanding vaccinations,- having an intervention that can save lives, for those unluckily enough to succumb to covid, such as EXO-CD24 is welcome.
This statement is ridiculous, two different functions, are there reporters, that do not realize the difference?
(SIC)The media may also mention that unlike vaccines the drug EXO-CD24, can work in hours, not weeks(EQ)
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For the record
“How does the Johnson & Johnson vaccine compare to other coronavirus vaccines? 4 questions answered”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/02/27/how-does-the-johnson-johnson-vaccine-compare-to-other-coronavirus-vaccines-4-questions-answered/
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Thanks for that another ian,
I forgot to ask my Oncologist last week, reviewing latest MRI, re Covid-19 Vaccination whilst on Immunotherapy.
3. How is it different from other vaccines?
The most basic difference is that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is an adenovirus vector vaccine, while the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are both mRNA vaccines. Messenger RNA vaccines use genetic instructions from the coronavirus to tell a person’s cells to make the spike protein, but these don’t use another virus as a vector. There are many practical differences, too.
I think I prefer the approach of adenovirus vector vaccine vs mRNA vaccines.
As the only one in my Family who has not had a Covid-19 test, as I can see no reason if I don’t feel ill (besides which I would have to have Nitrous Oxide to do the Throat part – have not been to Dentists for over 20 years), I am happy to wait re Covid-19 Vaccines and watch developments – Have had Flu Shot every year late April and am only one in 3 Generation Household who has not had cold or flu over last 7 years.
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When I first started posting on this site in 2012 it was a very good science based site. Now it seems to be more political and less scientific.
Only one comment mentions cytokines and none mention the fact that the treatment does not prevent infection with Covid-19. It suppresses the cytokine storm — a potentially lethal immune overreaction to the coronavirus infection that is believed to be responsible for many of the deaths associated with the disease.
It is not a vaccine or anything like a vaccine. It is a treatment to reduce the risk of death in patients who have moderate to severe Covid-19.
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As you said Ian, it is not a vaccine, but neither are the mRNA “vaccines”. Vaccine is only a convenient label to protect pharmaceutical companies from liability.
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I do not see anything in the article suggesting it is a vaccine. Quite the opposite, it is a medical cure for someone who gets infected and that is why it is an exciting development.
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“I do not see anything in the article suggesting it is a vaccine. ”
You’re quite correct there is nothing in the article that says it is a vaccine. But there is quite a lot of reference in the comments to vaccines and that is why I made my first line comparison on science and politics.
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I think thought those references were just as a comparison to vaccines and not actually calling this Israeli treatment a vaccine.
As for this being a science blog but seeming “to be more political and less scientific”. Given climate change “science” and covid “science” were hijacked by Politics, it’s not unreasonable for Jo to provide both the science and the politics so the lines can be determined. The blog is still providing plenty of science.
Plus, as the blog motto states. A perfectly good civilization is going to waste… All due to a certain brand of politics that needs a light on it so science can reuturn to being science.
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I think thought those references were just as a comparison to vaccines and not actually calling this Israeli treatment a vaccine.
As for this being a science blog but seeming “to be more political and less scientific”. Given climate change “science” and covid “science” were hijacked by Politics, it’s not unreasonable for Jo to provide both the science and the politics so the lines can be determined. The blog is still providing plenty of science.
Plus, as the blog motto states. A perfectly good civilization is going to waste… All due to a certain brand of politics that needs a light on it so science can return to being science.
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Good answer Strop! Let me symbolise the reply!
🏏🏏🏏
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Ian forgets: none of us are forcing him to comment. He really doesn’t have to.
The WW1 English cartoonist Bruce Bairnsfather sums it up perfectly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Well,_if_you_know_of_a_better_'ole,_go_to_it.jpg
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The article said it was not a vaccine but a potential cure for the adverse symptoms that accompanies the CHINESE virus.
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As written it does little for mild symptoms, its effect is preventing the cytokine storm [these new words that roll off our tongues as if we know what they are :)] and thus only useful in a hospital setting. That’s good, I’m not knocking it.
Ivermectin rules!!!!
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Good points in paragraphs two and three.
As you point out this treatment might be aimed at those who already have the CV19 disease.
As Sophocles link suggests, CV19 is about as dangerous as the common cold, but the current post is pointing to the possibility of support for those who may have been less than healthy before they got CV19.
In the long view we are constantly faced with interaction with Earth’s little bugs, microbes, germs viruses and so forth. The best approach is to let the body build it’s own defences and only intervene with vaccines where the problem is overwhelming. A little bit of a challenge every now and then is normal.
Unfortunately, sometimes the challenge turns into a nightmare and then other interventions are required.
I vividly remember the excitement I felt at getting the Polio vaccine; it gave me hope that I would not suffer the same fate as a number of locals who had been tragically damaged by it.
At that time there was little doubt that the vaccination programme was an attempt by government to protect us.
Unfortunately, in today’s world the picture is far from clear when a country like Vietnam can react so rapidly and accurately that it records 35 CV19 deaths from a population of over ninety million people.
Given the state of the World as seen in the collapse of Europe, the disinformation campaigns in U.S. public life and the vaccination history of the Gates steamroller in Africa, I have little confidence in the current call to Get Vaccinated.
Trust has to be earned.
Back to the start; your first paragraph, as I’ve said before, is total rubbish. The global warming scam was always a political issue. CO2 doesn’t cause global warming.
KK
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“CV19 is about as dangerous as the common cold, but the current post is pointing to the possibility of support for those who may have been less than healthy before they got CV19.”
Not really. It is pointing to those that have an over-compensating immune system a factor responsible for the death of many young fit people from Spanish ‘Flu.
This is from a paper in the journal “Aging’ published in May 2020
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7288963/
“The severity of COVID-19 is, of course, strongly associated with comorbidities such as hypertension, diabetes, obesity, cardiovascular disease, and respiratory system diseases [2]. Whether these comorbidities contribute specifically to SARS-CoV-2 pathogenesis or whether they are primarily indicators of biological age remains an open question. For example, simple explanations for the impact of age that are based solely on co-morbidities or on a general lack of resilience in aging, for example, fail to explain why the immune system often reacts uncontrollably.
The initial trigger for cytokine storm is not yet known but it likely involves the immune system’s detection of a large quantity of viral antigens released by dying cells. Why older people are particularly prone to cytokine storms is also unclear.”
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One of the first young people to die with CV19 was a European fellow of 30 or so years. Based in China.
It turned out that he loved alcohol and was thus equipped with a co-morbidity that sent him over the bar.
Not a good example for the idea that CV19 catches people of all ages.
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No Ian: it’s all pointing to people whose Vitamin D health is inadequate to poor.
When did you last have a vit-D test?
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Here’s a bit of help for all the poor Ian’s out there.
Be warned: there are lots and lots of links. You are expected to follow them ALL and read the content. Then you will actually know something.
https://vitamindwiki.com/COVID-19+treated+by+Vitamin+D+-+studies,+reports,+videos
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Living a normal life in Australia you don’t need a Vit-D test or Vit D supplements in summer, the sun provides enough Vit-D. In winter, in southern Australian state, supplementation my be needed depending on your diet and how much time you spend in the sun
As for “all the poor Ians out there” (your use of the apostrophe is incorrect) I can’t speak for anyone but myself but I do look at relevant links before posting as I really hate making stupid errors as a result of not assembling relevant facts before posting.
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It is sill a “very good science” site. Tell me what this particular article does not have to do with science. At one time it was all about the “climate change”, but Jo has moved with the times and is covering the science of a more urgent issue at this time.
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Real science, its analysis and enlightenment, has always been the backbone of this web site.
That focus on science has been a necessary part of being able to confidently examine the political decisions made in relation to Climate Change, the recent U.S. elections and the very unusual approach to the treatment of CV19 worldwide.
Science has been the backbone of determining the honesty of Government measures taken to look after us.
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Taking just that first point Ian,
Yes, I would agree that Jo has shifted her focus some what onto Political Science. That is where the action is!
There is still plenty of real science (even about Climate Change) if any one has anything new to contribute.
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The very reason that big pharma has suppressed all “cures” for COVID19 is that if there is no longer a high risk of death, comparitively speaking, then why would you possibly need a vaccine.
There are no vaccines for the common cold and only flu ones for at risk patients.
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Disagree. Jo is the one of the few on “the right” to not fall in the political line of her cohorts. She looked at the science always. One of the things that keeps me coming back.
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Ivermectin is already at the stage where it should be used instead of the vaccines, but we all know the answer there. In India they are marketing very cheap kits with Ivermectin zinc and an antibiotic – which we should have here…. So this one will go nowhere
The answer is that we have idiots in govt who know nothing technically about anything and hence when told by Bill Gates and Big Pharma that the “vaccine” (a complete misnomer as others have pointed out)is the answer to our prayers they just follow along and are incapable of asking the right questions (like – does it confer immunity, has it been long term tested etc)
I really wish I could actually get a few minutes with Dr Young or our CMO or Scomo and show what utter dills they are on so many fronts. We desperately need people with business experience and technical ability in parliament. The public service is completely useless on both fronts – in days gone by we had good technical people in public service but not anymore. Nowadays the woke have taken over and the incompetents there just employ biased consultants (who tell them what they want to hear) or just agree with the activists rather than attempt to understand it themselves.
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From other sources –
it might be interesting to see if there is a big spike in the sales of ivermectin horse paste in US
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Link posted- via Michael Smith-Lies, damned lies and Covid statistics.
Australian 2020 deaths by all (doctor-certified) causes are below the 5 year average
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/latest-release
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“Facebook makes it difficult to link to or embed things so I’m just putting this whole thing here.
For the “no libertarians in a pandemic” file:
It will be interesting to see how the last year affects those classical liberal/minarchist libertarians who said “well, sure, a pandemic or a public health crisis is one of the few situations where government intervention is justified.” The botched responses at the federal and state levels in the US (and this is about WAY more than Trump) should lead to some reconsideration there.
It shouldn’t have come as a surprise that government would fail at this task for all of the same structural reasons it screws up other tasks. Saying government *should* do X doesn’t mean it will or *can* do X. And if governments couldn’t get right one of the things that even many libertarians agree is one of its proper roles, well what kind of case is there against a whole bunch of other stuff government does, including the small list of other things minarchist types think government should do?
The massive fucking up of the pandemic response can be interpreted as evidence that we should all be *radical libertarians* in a pandemic.
-Steve Horwitz
I forgot to mention that this guy also has a severely compromised immune system due to cancer treatments. As such his words carry more weight than that of the average person. If he gets covid it’s likely a death sentence.”
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/02/28/no-libertarians-in-a-pandemic/
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Very interesting statistics. Deaths from respiratory diseases, flu and pneumonia are well below average. Overall deaths, including from Covid, are below average. Are we being panicked! I think so.
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Jo,
While not directly addressing the Israeli discovery, this article does address the question of herd immunity, even though it raises more questions than it answers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-01/inside-manaus-brazil-coronavirus-crisis-second-wave/13183706
It describes a new surge in Manaus, Brazil, where they expected to have achieved herd immunity from their previous outbreak.
I can’t evaluate it all.
Cheers
Dave B
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The rate determining step for Australians is the government’s Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA. To date they have approved the Pfizer/BioNTech on a provisional basis only. They have also issued a “’cease and desist’ order directed at a group of physicians who desire the freedom, now denied them, to prescribe hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of those coming down with the Wuhan flu”.(Quadrant:https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2021/02/the-tga-a-suitable-case-for-treatment/)
Given the TGA’s current form, it is highly unlikely that Israel’s EXO-CD24 will get a look in.
The TGA’s attitude on alternative treatments to Pfizer/BioNTech and Astra Zeneca’s faux vaccines seems recklessly stubborn considering that historically proven and safe alternatives based on Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin offer real, viable and long term safer choice than the one choice only, unknown future side-effects faux vaccines.
Many people go with their gut feeling and are suspicious of genetic therapy ‘vaccines’ pushed by the legacy media, drug companies and the government. The TGA’s stubborn attitude will not win people over and may well prove deadly. History will judge them accordingly.
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Victoria’s Chief Health Officer, Brett Sutton is the brother of Trevor Sutton. Trevor is the husband of Jane Halton who represented Australia at EVENT 201 on the 18th of October 2019 in New York City. It was a pandemic simulation exercise. Jan is chair of a board at W.H.O. and works for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. She is Australia’s Covid – 19 Coordinator and she is the person that both our Federal and State government answer. Jan tells them what to do. And Bill tells her what to do
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Extraordinary.
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Thanks, Len,
Typical of how the West is now run for the benefit of oligarchs at the expense of the rest of us.
How can a rational person trust our political class who are in bed with these types?
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So a public health expert goes to a public health event and does other things related to that. She is related to another public health expert who works for a state government. Hmm suspicious.
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Thanks StJohn …
That Quadrant article is a very good explanation of how the drug regulation system works.
What I get from the article is that there are many highly qualified people, tho’ not usually in medicine, pharmaceuticals or experience in clinical practice. The agency does not evaluate but uses others to do so for them. This would inevitably be Big Pharma who provide staff and facilities and write the reports.
Their statements are full of bureaucrat speak such as protocols, committees, efficacy, effectiveness, unapproved, taskforce, and experts. Any real expert is blacklisted for mentioning the name of a medication not in the favor of Big Pharma and details of successful trials.
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WHY IS IT SECRET, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT IS BEING INJECTED INTO US. THE CLOWNS THAT GOVERN AUSTRALIA ARE OUT OF CONTROL
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/tga-bans-pharmacies-from-revealing-which-covid19-vaccine-they-offer/news-story/8bcf3dea974537050600d7f87eb8e13c
TGA bans pharmacies from revealing which COVID-19 vaccine they offer
FEBRUARY 24, 2021 3:18PM
Finn McHughNCA NewsWire
Health providers and doctors will be banned from revealing which COVID-19 vaccine they offer as Australia prepares to roll out two jabs at the same time.
The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) has revealed its guidelines for advertising the vaccine, barring health providers from using their own ads to spruik the jab.
It also prohibits GPs, pharmacies and health centres from advertising which vaccine they offer.
The guidelines bar them from revealing “the tradename and/or active ingredient of the specific vaccine or other information that might enable consumers to identify the particular vaccine or the manufacturer of the vaccine”.
They are free to use government-approved material on the vaccine and provide basic information such as where and when vaccines can be accessed.
But using other promotions, such as a video of patients praising the experience of receiving the vaccine, is banned.
The TGA said an infringement notice was $1,332 for an individual and $13,320 for a body corporate.
But if convicted, a court could impose fines of up to $880,000 or five years, or both.
Businesses are also banned from implying harmful effects could occur from not taking the vaccine.
The first phase of the rollout consists of the Pfizer vaccine, the first approved by the TGA, but will also include AstraZeneca jab from the end of next month.
Australian authorities have been eager to play down reports the Pfizer vaccine has a higher efficacy than the AstraZeneca jab.
And the TGA has banned pharmacies from “any comparisons between vaccines (even if supported by evidence)” or “statements or the implication that the vaccine offered is superior to other vaccines”.
The AstraZeneca vaccine will make up the bulk of Australia’s rollout, which the federal government predicts will be complete by October.
Both the vaccines are free.
The measures are in line with previous vaccination campaigns.
Direct advertising of prescription medications and vaccines is already generally prohibited by the TGA, but exceptions are often made for government health campaigns.
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The only logical explanation for not identifying the actual injection is that Australian citizens are being used in a double blind study to determine which injection has fewer side effects. Does Mr. Pfizer agree to give us a discount for participating.
Aside from that, aren’t federal pubic servants always looking for was to impose on and dominate the riff raff.
KK
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People not being able to identify which vaccine they have reacted to makes it more difficult to hold the vaccine manufacturer to account.
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Covid19 doesn’t kill people.
The immune system response to the cytokine avalanche/storm is what kills people.
Anything that suppresses the cytokine storm is relevant as a treatment. There is no cure, as CV strains abound.
Anything purporting to provide immunity as a vaccine is necessarily directed at one single strain.
Ivermectin, HCQ, etc, suppress the cytokine storm regardless of covid strain. The Israeli 24CD treatment might as well. That’s a good thing.
Concentrate on what works in the Real World, not what is promised in the Political World.
Politicians don’t solve anything. They profit and prosper from crises. Give that a think.
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This non-groupthink website is well worth a look: Swiss Policy Research “Facts About Covid-19”
https://swprs.org/facts-about-covid-19/
What it says about the WHO’s recommendations on lockdowns and contact tracing is a must read for our guvnors. Whether they’ll take the advice or not will show their true quality.
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I assume that this isn’t a Swiss Government post.
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This agent has a long way to go for approval. Only in P1 study. In the coming weeks , CytoDyn will likely get an EUA for Leronlimab, a monoclonal antibody which has not only been found to be safe but has demonstrated statistically significant clinical data for mild / moderate Covid patients and is in talks with the FDA, MHRA, Health Canada after unblinding its data for 394 patients treated for severe/ critical Covid patients. In addition, Relief Therapeutics is completing a P3 study for its repurposed peptide called Aviptadil for severe/critical Covid patients with an inhalation form of the agent being designed for mild/moderate Covid patients. These companies as well as Humanigen will bring effective therapeutics to eradicate the symptomatic Covid patient’s infection and eliminate the post viral inflammatory response that creates Long Hauler’s Syndrome. Why allow for inoculation with the mRNA vaccines which turned out to be a failure with SARS/ MERS in animals. The government decided not to waste time and test on animals so we have become the guinea pigs.
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It wouldn’t matter if you found the fount of life which cured Wuflu and every other disease on the planet for free. Big Pharma and the globalists are going to make sure every alternative to their vaccines is snuffed out of existence.
And the governments of at least every Western nation are playing along with the great big hoax, and making rules and laws which play into their hands. They lie to us, bully us, and continually change the rules and the information we are fed like lab rats, to keep us under their control. Never, for an instant, let it be said that the truth was available to the longsuffering public.
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With just a few outliers we here would read that and say: What’s new?
Sadly we are just SKEPTICS and should be shot on sight.
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Reply to #21
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Here, Hanrahan, you go first.
I’ll follow and try to spot where all the shots come from …
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Jo, when that treatment was announced there was another successful drug test at the same time, but it was a re-purposed drug.
Allocetra made by Enlivex Therapeutics
https://www.israel21c.org/has-israel-just-found-the-cure-for-covid/
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Thank you for that link which shows Allocetra was in use back in October 2020 and showed significant improvements among thirty patients. It is now in Phase 2 trials.
Just demonstrates what is so very wrong with our phony greedy politicised immoral MSM, trash purveyors of zero conscience.
Thank goodness for websites like this.
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You’re welcome UK-Weather Lass.
We enjoy it too despite our useless Idiots but I guess you’ve got them well spotted already …
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The human body was DESIGNED to stay healthy, and the Earth was populated by herbs that stop viral infections in their tracks.
Covid19, on the other hand, is a degenerate, man-made viral infection, designed only by the minds of ignorant persons to be used as a weapon against whole “enemy” populations, but inherently weak due to their ignorance.
I beat covid19 with echinacea with goldenseal, in unrestricted dosing at the first sign of sickness (a dose every 20 minutes, not the 3-times a day recommended on the bottles, which is a joke, as are those for all “supplements”). It stopped the progression into sickness in hours, certainly less than a day, and completely eliminated any threat withing days. I repeated this experience 2 months later, this time in just 2 days. There has been no covid19 in my experience since last April, just about the time they started the lockdowns to mislead the people into the last year of insanity.
We do not have a legitimate government in the USA. We do not have competent immunology experts ANYWHERE in the world, that would have shut down the last year of hysteria. We had, from the very beginning, all the information we needed to handle the covid19 outbreak without ANY of what we have gone through, as a civilization. It only required quick treatment with echinacea and goldenseal, in my case, and no mask wearing ever.
They try to get us to take vaccines yearly, against the “flu”. It is a joke, there is no “cure” in a yearly ritual. It is merely a matter of taking the appropriate MEDICINE when one gets it (is attacked), and herbs like echinacea and goldenseal have been there throughout human history.
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Thanks for that.
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New Ivermectin review gets dropped by journal after completing peer review.
“Unfortunately, I have to inform you that your manuscript “Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis & Treatment of COVID-19″ cannot be accepted for publication in Frontiers in Pharmacology, Respiratory Pharmacology.”
Interview with Dr. Pierre Kory
https://twitter.com/BreesAnna/status/1366397908661264389?s=20
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As a person who works in the biotech industry I have a healthy scepticism when I see such successful claims., especially at the phase 1 stage. Where you have a disease like COVID which is known to impact primarily on the elderly and health compromised the qualifying criteria of participants can skew results. If the patients are millennials I would not be so convinced. Stem cell companies have made similar claims of success in early studies with a similar mode of action in suppressing COVID but have not proved successful at the later clinical stage trials.
There is also an assumption that Israeli scientists have a special gift when it comes to making scientific breakthroughs in all areas . I can assure you there is a lot of charlatans that operate within the system anywhere in the world.
Don’t get me wrong, Israel bats above its weight in the scientific world stage disproportionately making new discoveries but a long stint working for a biotech company ( after being a stock broker) has made me a cynic about information that is released to the public.
I will be most impressed and delighted if the technology stands up to scrutiny in a properly conducted phase 2/3 trial.
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If you don’t see it you don’t have a chance of believing it!
“CNN Goes Full Babylon Bee”
“It’s the US’ deadliest avalanche season in years. Experts say Covid is partly to blame”
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/03/01/cnn-goes-full-babylon-bee/
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Just for a sense of proportion and where we are:
Global population today is 7,849,000,000
Known COVID19 cases today is 114,964,968
Percentage known to have contracted COVID19 = 1.46% of humanity
98.54% remainder
If we presume only 1/5th of cases are detected then only 7.3% of humanity has contracted some variant of COVID-19, thus far.
Only 92.7% of humanity remains to be infected
Tests on young fit US Marines has shown that re-infections are quite common among them. There does not appear to be any ‘herd immunity’ end-point.
I do wonder if there ever will ever be a vaccine which works longer-term, or if anti-virals will be all we will have to reduce the effects and the deaths from an otherwise unstoppable virus. We either learn how to defeat virus, per-sec, or this can not end.
Letting it rip is no solution. How many times if there’s no actual herd immunity level?
Current data
Global known cases so far = 114,964,968.000
Global deaths attributed = 2,549,387.000
Percentage of dead = 2.22% died
This is a fairly stable percentage who die, from the known cases. In effect in that cases where the disease gets detected, the death rate is about 20 times higher than “flu”. We can’t let-it-rip, that would just overwhelm the hospitals, and our ability to cope, and it seems unlikely to end even if we let it take hold.
What does shock me is walking down the streets of my own suburb over the past few weeks and the shops that were there from the early 1980s are all gone. There are several small shopping centers and corner complexes and not a single shop survived. The prior economic activity these all produced is gone. I don’t think it can return, too high risk. Everything is now concentrated at one shopping center complex alone, and only one other shop in the whole suburb. There’s no way our national and local economy has not been severely altered. We did all we could to limit the damage but it still took out a large number of small businesses which could not adapt.
Survival of the fittest? It appears so. But I’m not sure this improved the business ‘species’ which has remained, for the rest of us. I think we are going to greatly regret those losses. Now people have to catch a bus, or drive a car, from one side of the suburb to the other, just to buy the most basic food essentials. And almost no one walks places or rides a bike anymore. Opportunity is not knocking, and there is not much of a prosperous recovery.
Though landlords and real estates are ripping everyone off, and behaving very badly like never before with renters, with next to no actual accountability or deterrence from prejudicial behaviors, whatsoever, and they just get away with anything they do, so there is that little glimmer of endless ‘economic’ purgatory for those suffering the effects.
Thank you governments of Australia for making it so easy for them to “lord it” over people, and destroy families and individuals however they wish, good work! You really do know how to destroy a society.
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If you’re over 65 – –
This piece was on tonight’s CTV NEWS:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-not-recommended-in-people-65-and-older-naci-1.5329033
Via http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/03/02/march-2-2021-reader-tips/#comment-1416191
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Well I am not surprised
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