It’s the coverup that matters
Men with guns deciding what jokes you can hear?
Part II in the “United States of the FBI”
Matt Taibbi is reading through the TwitterFile emails between the FBI and Twitter and found strangely petty and detailed requests which reveal much more than you might think. The FBI were sending through requests to ban trivial no-name accounts who just posted jokes. They were also asking for their “location information” of people posting the jokes. The overreaction shows how entangled Twitter was with the FBI on day to day operations, but also reveals the hot button priority topic the FBI was so concerned about was election “misinformation”. What are the FBI most afraid of?
“a surprisingly high number [of emails] are requests by the FBI for Twitter to take action on election misinformation, even involving joke tweets from low-follower accounts.
Federal intelligence and law enforcement reach into Twitter included the Department of Homeland Security, which partnered with security contractors and think tanks to pressure Twitter to moderate content.
It’s no secret the government analyzes bulk data for all sorts of purposes, everything from tracking terror suspects to making economic forecasts.
The #TwitterFiles show something new: agencies like the FBI and DHS regularly sending social media content to Twitter through multiple entry points, pre-flagged for moderation.
They were even trying to ban some people just from saying “”Get out there and Vote Wednesday”. Taibbi asks: This, is what the FBI spends time on?
When told of the FBI flagging, @Lexitollah replied:
“My thoughts initially include
1. Seems like prima facie 1A violation
2. Holy cow, me, an account with the reach of an amoeba
3. What else are they looking at?”
Instead of chasing child sex predators or terrorists, the FBI has agents — lots of them — analyzing and mass-flagging social media posts. Not as part of any criminal investigation, but as a permanent, end-in-itself surveillance operation. People should not be okay with this.
The collusion was comprehensive. The FBI delivered up “products” from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The Twitter team could received reports via something called the Partner Support Portal, an outlet created by the Center for Internet Security, a partner organization to the DHS. They could also get reports from “Teleporter” which is an FBI platform. There is a string of three letter acronym agencies in contact with Twitter, including demands to know why Twitter didn’t take action on a tweet from Donald Trump (you know, The President).
In summary, Matt Taibbi says:
.he takeaway: what most people think of as the “deep state” is really a tangled collaboration of state agencies, private contractors, and (sometimes state-funded) NGOs. The lines become so blurred as to be meaningless.
Speaking of Deep State revelations…
Why are the CIA still hiding files 60 years later?
In 1992 Congress decided the JFK files should be released in 2017, but the files remain locked, even though everyone named in them is dead. The Trump administration promised the files would be released, but Mike Pompeo, director of the CIA, applied intense pressure and they were not released. Today the Biden administration did the same. Tucker Carlson asked someone who has seen them:
We spoke to someone who had access to these still hidden CIA documents, a person who was deeply familiar with what they contained. We asked this person directly, “Did the CIA have a hand in the murder of John F. Kennedy, an American President? And here’s the reply we received verbatim. Quote,
The answer is yes. I believe they were involved. It’s a whole different country from what we thought it was. It’s all fake.
It’s hard to imagine a more jarring response than that. Again, this is not a “conspiracy theorist” that we spoke to. Not even close. This is someone with direct knowledge of the information that once again is being withheld from the American public. And the answer we received was unequivocal.
Even Carlson was shocked:
It means that within the US government, there are forces wholly beyond democratic control. These forces are more powerful than the elected officials that supposedly oversee them. These forces can affect election outcomes. They can even hide their complicity in the murder of an American president. In other words, they can do pretty much anything they want.
They constitute a government within a government mocking, by their very existence, the idea of democracy.
If it’s true, then the CIA decided who the President of America was, and that was 60 years ago. The JFK files become a kind of Schrodinger Box. To see them is to know they can’t be spoken of. If a President opened those files, and if the evidence is there, what President would release them?
Who would risk the ire of an agency they thought had killed a President and gotten away with it?
Meanwhile, corruption is everywhere:
Currently news is coming in of suitcases loaded with cash being paid to Members of the European Parliament. It’s so bad, they are going straight to jail, “for a week”, and possibly a lot longer after the trial.
The backlash has been swift. Over the weekend, Kaili was stripped of her responsibilities as vice president, expelled from her party both in Greece and Brussels, and saw Greek prosecutors freeze her assets.
At least there is still some hope justice will be done, for common criminals if not for the criminal investigators.
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The Babylon Bee satirical site got banned on Twitter, so it’s only fair they get the last word.
Government Warns That With Elon Owning Twitter They Will Only Control 97% Of The Media
By the Babylon Bee
“We can’t overstate how dangerous this is,” said gay black Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre. “Yes, we still control Facebook, Google, Apple, Instagram, YouTube, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, The Washington Post, The New York Times, Hollywood, TIME, USAToday, The Wall Street Journal, and pretty much all the rest, but we don’t control Twitter. This is dangerous to democracy.”
The entire intelligence community at the CIA, FBI, and NSA concurred with the warning, stating that “Elon’s ownership of Twitter leaves America vulnerable to dangerous opinions we do not approve of.”
Their democracy is at stake.
President Trump was right when he said that the swamp needs to b drained and so wasn’t President Regan when he said not ask the government to solve your problems because government is the problem.
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The manifest corruption which emanates from much of America these days is absolutely appalling. Trump may have had some character flaws but in comparison he looks cleaner than the proverbial preacher’s sheets. I hope he gets his second term as President and is able to exact the justice of the wrongly accused.
My only concern is that he is all in on the C19 vaxxes whereas I think the US (and the World) needs a DeSantis style approach.
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Love the work produced by ‘the Babylon Bee’. Most people do not know it is just as satirical as ‘The Onion’
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” Most people do not know …”
Please provide a citation. Thanks.
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WOW.. PF finally figures out the BB is satire.
How long did it take you ?
The real problem is that many of the satirisations, particularly about leftist idiotology, tend to be very close to the truth. !
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Oh, yes. They often get very close to home, as it were. I trust them more than any of the networks. It’s quite a knack to tell the truth, while just telling not enouhh of it to keep from getting banned.
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I’m intrigued. Given that the Babylon Bee shines a light on the stupidity of every group, decision, position, cult, and belief you seem to support, what is it you love about it?
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That’s the hidden way to declare you are part of these “most people” 😀 😀
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What makes the BB so funny and sad at the same time, is that it’s actually the truth dressed up as satire.
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That’s the best kind.
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There it is folks! Both the FBI and CIA were caught red-handed. Probably with official intimidation, coercing and collaborating with Twitter. Doubtless, Google and Facebook were too! The FBI was started in 1908. Since then, it has changed names three times and grown from under 40 employees to more than 35,000. Under President Theodore Roosevelt it was an investigative branch of the Department of Justice. In 1924: J. Edgar Hoover was named Acting Director, and he made collecting information on people an art form. He initially specialised in politicians but soon realised the value of this “knowledge” to further his career and longevity. The modern FBI/CIA/DOJ act as agents of harm to destroy American Society and bring it to heel by any means. These destructive organisations must be defunded and redirected away from Police State awfulness into Constitutional Lawfulness!
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There was no coercion involved here Pengun! Twitter, being almost solely staffed by hard core Democrats, only too happily worked with the FBI to remove accounts of people with followers as low as your average Twitter lefty staff IQ.
The reality is the DoJ, the FBI and the CIA are nothing more an the security forces of the Democratic Party and Garland has only brought this fact in to the daylight. These people should be ashamed of themselves for what they have done but they aren’t. They are the opposite of ashamed, they are ecstatic over what they have achieved with the politicisation of these organisations to help Democrats keep eternal power.
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Standard operating practice in Greece.
I recall the Defence official who was against them buying German tanks. He pointed out that in operation they would have to be transported to the islands, climb the mountains and once over them be transported to the next island. Suddenly he dropped his objections and at the later enquiry revealed that the senior German salesman appeared at his office and poured banknotes onto his desk of around €800,000 and he suddenly changed his mind.
The later enquiry was why Greece had spent €100 million on tanks and never got any. The former Defence Minister was thought to have got it.
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That’s why their economy is in such great shape. 🙂
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Yeah, and don’t forget, they gave us ‘Demokratia.’
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Atlas Shrugged” was “fiction”.
But, Ayn Rand might have been onto something, here:
“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against… We’re after power and we mean it… There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”
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Nineteen Eighty Four was supposedly fiction as well, and yet, here we are…
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There is little doubt that voters in so called democracies no longer have any real say in the governance and soverieignty of their countries, even Australia!
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Exactly and there is not much point in voting for a ‘Pollie’ who promises you the Moon at Election time when all you end up with is a lump of rock in the Asteroid Belt when that ‘Pollie’ is elected.
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I vote for the candidate that appears to have integrity, a concern for country and listens to what the electorate wants, somehow a lying self serving politician always wins.
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“I vote for the candidate that appears to have integrity, a concern for country and listens to what the electorate wants,”
Ah, so you don’t vote either… I just don’t want to encourage them.
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Rennick, Roberts, Antic. Canavan. There are guys still work voting for, but we need to more than just vote. We need to build an information network to help them.
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You could probably include Hastie & Price but there are certainly not enough ‘good guys’ in power.
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Indeed. Well said. Craig Kelly was a good man too. Maybe he could get a Senate seat?
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Having had a number of dealings with Gerard Rennick and having met him and seen him in action, this guy is the real deal. He really wants to help our country. He is the type of politician we need to have in our govt.
Shame how so many others who are in Parliament are the anti thesis of Gerard. These gutter dwellers have no understanding of science and morality, and regardless of what their constituents say just vote for WEF style policies that destroy our country.
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You must have noticed that the good guys mentioned, and I will include my local member Dr David Gillespie, a pro nuclear and coal advocate, seldom if ever manage to get a front bench slot. The establishment keeps the status quo and the consumer be damned. When did a recent government ever have an inquiry into the science behind the CC scam? They just accepted what the alarmists and failed scientists told them because it suited them. In business and in household the wise and cautious would do their due diligence before making a big spending decision but government are spending someone else’s money so they ignore reality. They are also advised by recently minted and thoroughly brainwashed experts well paid to give the “right” advice.
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“We need to build an information network”
https://kenskingdom.wordpress.com has been doing that. TonyfromOz too. And JoNova.
Now might be the time to go back through their work.
Start with Ken’s job on the original BOM temperature homogenisation. The one that just quietly disappeared.
If I got the story right there Ken’s work demonstrated that there were elements in the “homogenisation” that were absurd.
This surely proved that 1. The BOM was not competent to do this work, and 2. They hadn’t even checked their work to discover the absurdity.
Which in its turn tells us that they were trying to automate this work without comprehending the basic issue.
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They be called “populists” Sambar.
Populists.
We can’t have parliamentarians representing the wishes of their electorates. We can’t have populists in the Parliament.
A parliamentarian’s priority has to be to the party. The Party. First, last and always.
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A lot of this traces back to 9/11 and the ‘powers’ that resulted from that. Power for powers sake.
Once you have enough money to cover your pyshical needs (And who, who, has any conection to government doesn’t?)
Power is the only game left in town.
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Specifically the Patriot Act and turning the intelligence community from looking for foreign to domestic “terrorists”.
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Mr. Pegler: YEs, and some predicted the powers would be abused, but it took Hillary Clinton to show how it’s done, abuse-wise. She didn’t take losing well in 2016, and decided to punish us all for our error.
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I doubt whether much, or any, pressure was needed for Twitter to comply given the type of Leftist Elites who then owned and worked for Twitter before Elon Musk came along.
Musk, incidentally, is now rightfully extremely concerned for his personal safety because he is challenging The Left and The Deep State and promoting free speech, even for Leftists.
Apparently the Left only want free speech for themselves and censorship for everyone else, but that’s always been the case. They only pretended to believe in free speech when they weren’t in power. Obviously there was never free speech under any National Socialist or International Socialist regime.
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Also, in the event of future prosecutions for election interference and other prosecutions, former Twitter staff and owners might claim they were pressured when they did it willingly.
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Mr. M: We already see the FBI saying, “hey, we merely warned them of nefarious, criminal information from Russia, we didn’t tell them to shut it down.” Meanwhile, both FBI and social media and the press are sticking with their story, “we couldn’t let 2016 happen again”, another Clinton lie that they all accept and excuses all. Top FBI folks are all in on this lie about 2016, and nothing is knocking them off this absurd launch point.
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I’ve read all the Twitter Files so far but I don’t always pick up the significance of some points until someone else highlights it. As today when I saw this re Matt Taibbi’s #18:
Twitter Files: FBI Targeted Right Side Broadcasting Network for Censorship Ahead of Midterms
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2022/12/16/fbi-targeted-rsbn-for-twitter-censorship-midtgerms/
What got me was this:
“Command Post” ? FEC enforcement is simple bureaucracy:
Enter the fascistic FBI “command” function.
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Meanwhile, actual criminal investigation has been a distraction from the FBI’s “command” activities:
FBI Whistleblower Slams Ted Lieu, Says He Was Moved Off Child Porn Cases To Focus On J6
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-whistleblower-slams-ted-lieu-says-he-was-moved-child-porn-cases-focus-j6
And, Friend Tweet:
We are witnessing the fall of Federal USA into decay and depravity akin the fall of the Roman Empire it mimics.
And maybe the birth of the next Technate.
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And suddenly the main stream media has zero concern about election interference …. But they’re not biased at all, right?
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We must enquire if the Victorian ALP of. Dan Andrews used the FBI or CIA as consultants in the Covid lockdown assault on the good people of Victoria. His actions have a certain stench of FBI involvement!
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Not really as Desperate Dan just followed the CCP. Authoritarianism 101………………..
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The left has been spreading their evil for a very long time and little wonder that the FBI, CIA etc have changed to promote hard line left wing ideas for the last 40 years.
I’ve always been sceptical about some of the sources promoting the mafia, CIA, FBI, Russia, Cuba etc assassination of JFK, but I’m still not sure that Oswald was a lone gunman.
Jack Ruby’s quick disposal of Oswald always seemed to be odd to me as was his so called reason for doing it.
Who knows what really happened and I’m sure we’ll never know the whole truth.
But the bias towards the left today in all the govt’s agencies is a curse and how you’d even start to unravel the mess is probably beyond our best efforts. Time will tell.
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Incidentally, the photographer of the shooting, Robert H. Jackson, won the 1964 Pulitzer Prize for photography.
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Oliver Stone made 2 films about, not bad, the last as documentary, JFK revisisted.
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I know very little about guns, but it seems improbable to me that Oswald managed to do what he allegedly did, with that rifle, at that distance, with such accuracy, at a moving target. And he hit his target more than once with accurately-placed shots. Is that really credible?
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Experts have studied the case and it is highly unlikely that Oswald with poor marksmanship skills at the time, no practice and an extremely poor, old, worn-out rifle could have done it. Not even professional military marksmen could replicate what Oswald was alleged to have done.
See http://22november1963.org.uk/lee-harvey-oswald-marksman-sharpshooter
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Gosh DM, did you lift that from an investigation into Port Arthur?
Exactly the same reasons came up as to why an inexperienced shooter who was nuts managed to use a rifle that didn’t fit in the bag he took into the cafe and headshot moving screaming people before running off to a two-story house and failing to hit anyone ever again…
Pure luck and coincidence in all these cases I am sure!
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Dissimilar cases.
Martin Bryant shot people at close range as far as I know. Not sniper level shooting at all.
Not all that difficult. Who said he was an inexperienced shooter?
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Interestingly, stop the left right paradigm, and look at the problem, as how to defeat an enemy. Yes, the Kennedy papers should have been out many years ago, meaning there are clues to the truth in there. Those cracker crumbs lead to a group. That group is still active. That is not an entire agency, or a political party. But a group, that’s not democrats, what “party” demands loyalty? Which group says “help the people”, the christians, or ” render to Cesar” and which sees the other “political party” as an enemy? Could it be a construct? To focus you away from a more serious investigation. Remember the auld way,all roads lead to Rome? And now, who is making the roads?
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There was a pre meeting with the agencies. The pre meeting involved George Bush Snr who was chief of the CIA at the time. Up to eight snipers were employed. At one time there were eight snipers provided a fusilade but all missed. It is understood that the sniper that shot Kennedy was in a man hole on the footpath.The bullett travel from about ground level and caught the President in its upper flight.
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Eight snipers? How many shots were fired? And how many of them were the Presidents body guard shooting in the air?
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Has Jo gone full Conspiracy Theorist?
I think not.
Up till now I have tended to dismiss the notion that the CIA killed JFK (the most popular US president ever).
However the Twitter revelations are shining a light into a very dark hole. It seems that the DOJ, DHS, FBI, CIA have not just been meddling with american public opinion but have been controlling the whole operation.
From there it is but a small step to wonder when the FBI/CIA started to act like this and the answer seems to be that they have been doing it for a long long time. Which brings Jo straight to the assassination of JFK. Tucker Carlson and Robert Kennedy Jnr are making the same connection.
I have been reading similar stuff at the Conservative Tree House for several years. Sundance came to the view that the Intelligence Services are the real power in the USA.
One can only hope that the edifice will start to crumble rapidly now.
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I for a long time had doubts about the official version concerning JFK. The have been to much open questions and logicals.
Alone having seen the official vids it was clear, he wasen’t shot from behind by Oswald, even if he was involved as one can assume at least after having been shot down by Ruby.
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Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano suggests that the Freemasons are the thread in the whole saga. The Victorian Police exhibit Freemason control
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And his name isn’t even Irish!
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>”Why are the CIA still hiding files 60 years later?”
And reveal the actual Deep State shooters?
The Bullet hole in the JFK limo Windshield
https://williamw.substack.com/p/the-bullet-hole-in-the-jfk-limo-windshield
And,
The windshield bullet entered from the front – not rear.
And who seriously believes Oswald gave up the opportunity for a clean shot wile the limo was approaching, rounding the corner, and moving away, only to wait for an obscured shot behind trees?
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Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.: The CIA’s Murder of My Uncle Was a Coup d-Etat From Which Democracy Has Never Recovered
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-cias-murder-uncle-coup-d-etat-democracy-never-recovered/
Except there’s democracy and then there’s US Federal “democracy”.
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FWIW
“Truth And Consequences”
https://kunstler.com/clusterf*-nation/truth-and-consequences/
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Kennedy may have been a Democrat but Democrats in those days were somewhat rational, patriotic and were not trying to destroy America, unlike the present incumbents. Some time after Kennedy the Marxists and globalists took over.
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JFK was not really a good New Deal Democrat. His domestic policies were more like the later Reagan, and I dare say Trump, policies. JFK’s successor, LBJ, was a New Deal Democrat, and essentially re-booted the New Deal called the Great Society. The result was malaise of the 70″s.
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New Zealand Demands Citizens Report ‘Conspiracy Theorists’ Who ‘Oppose Gov’t Policies’ as ‘Terrorists’
The authoritarian left-wing New Zealand government has ordered citizens to report their friends and family to the police if they suspect them of opposing government policies, including COVID measures.
According to literature released by Jacinda Ardern’s WEF-infiltrated government, New Zealand citizens who are suspected of being “conspiracy theorists” will be investigated as terrorists.
Rebecca Kitteridge, director of the New Zealand Security Intelligence Service, explained that there are “dozens of indicators” that suggest a family member or friend has been “radicalized” by conspiracy theories and could be planning a terror attack.
Anyone who opposes “government policies that are interpreted as infringing on rights” or “Covid measures the government took” must be reported and investigated as terrorists, according to Kitteridge
https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1604160940211306497
It’s a big club and you ain’t in it, which makes you a threat to their power, regardless of country.
Their desperation to maintain control despite overwhelming proof reflects just how fast the “global economy Titanic” is sinking.
Does anyone seriously think the Biden admin will release the truth about JFK or anything else? What would happen if they did? Realistically, not much.
It’d be all over every website and blog for a month then disappear in favour of the latest bombshell.
Politicians and even presidents are just expendable puppets for deep state. Tow the line or pay the price.
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Rebecca Kitteridge – Frau Farbissina (Austin Powers) meme in that Twitter thread:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkMobzMXEAIM2sw?format=png&name=small
Also Frau https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQZG4AJ-NPA
With ‘Security Intelligence’ like Kitteridge who needs enemies?
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I assume Kitteridge is a quota hire not a merit hire?
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I looked up the full News Punch article:
New Zealand Demands Citizens Report ‘Conspiracy Theorists’ Who ‘Oppose Gov’t Policies’ as ‘Terrorists’
https://newspunch.com/new-zealand-demands-citizens-report-conspiracy-theorists-who-oppose-govt-policies-as-terrorists/
Down at the bottom are the now infamous Jacinda Ardern quotes:
Brought to us by the Ministry of Truth I presume.
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As I commented at the time, that is perhaps the most sinister utterance heard from a ‘politician’
in recent memory.
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If the government says it, it must be true.
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I didn’t see you’d already posted that so I posted it again.
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The quote provides a possible motive for the JFK assassination. But did he actually say that? And when?
Is there a reference?
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Peter >”But did he actually say that? And when?
Is there a reference?”
Firstly, splinter – not smash. Apologies.
Reference is a NYT article April 25, 1966:
C.I.A.: Maker of Policy, or Tool?
https://www.nytimes.com/1966/04/25/archives/cia-maker-of-policy-or-tool-survey-finds-widely-feared-agency-is.html
Full text is unavailable for this digitized archive article. Subscribers may view the full text of this article in its original form through TimesMachine.
Apparently the quote is on the second page of the article under the heading of “Kennedy’s bitterness”:
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IMHO Vincent Bugliosi was a loyal Warren Commission apologist.
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The Age of Billionaires?
Would we know without one?
One is very fond of vaccines.
Interesting what they allow us to know.
I was driving through a famous university campus today.
They like education too.
Every new construction has a ones’ name on it.
Guess we’ll need a billionaire to buy Epstein’s client list.
I mean, certainly none are on it. 🙂
The Age of Trillionaires should be interesting..
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Oliver Stone directed 2 movies uncovering and dramatizing all the events associated with the JFK assassination and defection of CIA operative Snowden. They were both extremely entertaining films and based on actual events. Right now I think OS might be cooking up his next film script entitled “ Twitter files”. I’m casting a really “ woke” actor as Jack Dorsey and maybe George Clooney as Musk. Either a film or a multi- episode series on Netflix. It would make “House of Cards” look like a children’s show.
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This quote is attributed to JFK but it’s not altogether certain he said it. A lot of supporters of the Deep State say he didn’t, which suggests he probably did.
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I looked up the quote when Richard C posted it above. It seems not to have good attribution.
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In the very first days after the assassination there were conspiracy theories about the CIA. I never put much credence into them because that is what we expect, just like FDR and Pearl Harbor and the moon walk, etc etc.
But when I read that a family member says what RFK jr says, it makes me sit up and pay attention.
This whole episode has shaken my confidence in what is going on inside the bowels of government. All principles are gone I’m sure but the legacy they left, if true, is frightening.
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So how do you see Pearl Harbor – Denny?
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>”So how do you see Pearl Harbor…?”
My 2 cents. FDR knew the warnings but used the opportunity to take US into the war.
Had to be a very big reason because many US companies were doing a lot of business in Germany and liked things just as they were (think Henry Ford, Irénée du Pont), and fascism was popular in the US leading up anyway. Some even stayed there to profit e.g. AP, IBM.
Cars and Nazis
https://dogandlemon.com/sites/default/files/cars_nazis.pdf
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See my various blog posts on Pearl Harbor
http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?s=Pearl
There were multiple credible warnings for a year prior –
why the Navy & Army at PH were so relaxed lord only knows.
I need to put together a timeline list of all the warnings
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For a country that prides itself on truth and freedom, seems to be precious little to show . .
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Lessee now. Oswald is a Marine who learns Russian and studies Marxism. And in spite of these communist leanings he is posted to Atsugi naval base where he works on the ultra-super-burn-before-reading-I-could-tell-you-but-then-I’d-have-to-kill-you-top-secret U2 programme. Then he gives up his US citizenship and goes to live in the USSR. Then the USSR shoots down a U2. Oswald then changes his mind and asks for his US citizenship back. US says “Sure, here’s a new passport.” (You try that and see what happens.) And he’s back with no apparent questioning. Then he supports the Fair Play for Cuba committee, and no-one seems to worry. Could it be that he’s only pretending to be a communist sympathiser and actually working for the CIA?
Naaah! That’s crazy conspiracy theory.
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I was seventeen when JFK was shot. I’m 76 now.
All the top level people involved are dead. All the lowest level people are older than me.
No individual is being protected. The protection has to be for an institution that the US is committed to supporting no matter what. Top guess is CIA, second guess is Mossad. Maybe the Mafia was involved, but they are a much diminished force in the US now.
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That could mean anything. “Involved in what?
In the shooting?
in the cover-up?
In the botched investigation?
In protecting Castro and Khrushchev?
In saving the FBI’s Hoover from being sacked by Kennedy – by getting in first?
The only true statement in the quote is the last bit: “It’s all fake”.
And it is. America. Democracy. One person one vote. Equality before the law. The Rule of Law. Climate change. Renewables are cheaper. CO2 drives global warming. No child will live in poverty. Snow will soon be a thing of the past. I never has sex with that woman. There is no such thing as two sexes.
Strike me pink!
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Agree Skeptical Sam.
I wish Carlton Tucker had a better source. Unnamed source says he believes they were involved.
Not very strong evidence.
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Well thank goodness one person one vote isn’t the case in the USA. You would never see another Republican president again. The conditions of the Union was the smaller states got extra weight.
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Are you sure about that? Can you predict the future?
Do you think that the freedom loving American people would continue to vote socialist-left democrat after decades of misery under the incompetence that’s hard-wired into all socialist policy?
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yes. Times have changed.
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Good to read comments here critical of the “official Warren Report version” of the killing of JFK 59 years ago.
I have a blog up with 13 points where I think the “Warren process” is superceded by better information.
JFK was assassinated in Dallas 59 years ago
http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=6995
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I have added to my 6th point re the “….conga line of suckholes happy if harm was to come to JFK or his brother.”
I have also added a 14th point – that despite a few hundred witnesses around Dealey Plaza when JFK was shot – NOBODY strait away went up to the 6th floor where Warren said the shots came from.
I think various photos are still secret.
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This type of stuff fuels the madness of those we saw in Qld during the week.
I saw their videos today. Those people are completely mad and this stuff triggers them. They seemed triggered by the NZ baby in hospital affair. Convinced the deep state is of demons and coming for them.
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“Give up your freedom to criticize evil, or you are a terrorist!” – governments worldwide
When legitimate concerns of sane people have to be suppressed for fear that some lunatic will be offended, you know that those doing the suppression are just as criminally insane as the loons they pretend we’ll “trigger.”
“Convinced the deep state is of demons and coming for them.” – Philip
Are you saying it isn’t, mate?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/new-zealand-guide-turn-potential-terrorists-opposing-government-policies-including-covid-measures/
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PS – Unless some fool thinks I approve of the murderer’s actions, I emphatically do NOT! …no more than I approve of our governments’ banning life saving medicines. All I’m saying is that they are both evil.
In a saner world I wouldn’t have to feel the need to clarify that point.
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On reviewing my comment my words are sloppy and vague.
Yes, there is a deep state working against the interests of society, but context is required. This does not equate to police at your driveway as being demons. These people were convinced of this delusion.
By “This stuff..” I refer to the overreaction of the state, of the FBI running twitter – and to things like covid. Lunatics like the Trains become triggered by this stuff. The blood on their hands routine the left always throws out can easily be mirrored here.
There are degrees of evil. And they got that degree very very wrong. One must never give ground or any justification to these morons. They are extremely damaging to anything they are attached to.
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OK, thanks.
Still, the state actors subverting our freedoms on behalf of one party over the other is how dictatorships come to power and then retain it with the use of more deceit, coercion and violence.
If we aren’t allowed to draw attention to their real flaws, while they are allowed to bring any false charge they want against us, the descent into anarchy becomes inevitable. If anyone is guilty of “triggering “ the violent crazies among us, it’s those who abuse their positions, not those who draw attention to that abuse. There are right ways to fix a problems, and wrong ways. Ignoring the problem is rarely helpful.
And I didn’t mean you were a “fool,” just that I wanted to head any trolls off before they posted a “gotcha.”
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“This does not equate to police at your driveway and being demons.” – Philip
Well, quarantining people for not taking an inoculation that does no good and causes more harm than the virus it allegedly protects against isn’t like beating someone to death, but it has the same effect. No guns were fired, but 10’s of thousands were killed or maimed for life. Livelihoods were destroyed by governments all over the world. And yet, because a few psychotic screwballs went on a murder spree, then we are all terrorists?!, …when all we want is for those responsible to be gone, and where appropriate to be legally held to account, not murdered? I don’t think so.
Anyway, thanks for clarifying, and giving me an excuse to do the same. I hope you stay well, and are minimally affected by the insanity the Left is desperately trying to impose on us all.
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For a carefully researched analysis of the actual data, good, bad, and indifferent, I recommend Killing Kennedy by Craig Cabell
https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Kennedy-Craig-Cabell-ebook/dp/B00FVECFT4/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3TPYYISAA3EW8&keywords=killing+kennedy+craig+cabell&qid=1671373430&sprefix=killing+kennedy+craig+cabell%2Caps%2C101&sr=8-1
He does not go into anything about the “who” behind it, just exactly what happened, what was left out, what was lied about, and weighing each piece of evidence.
Conspiracy theories occur when the “public” answer simply doesn’t match the facts, when those facts are looked at dispassionately.
Here is the biggest one around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_pLOvvUpi8
What happened to the Twin Towers on 9/11/2001? The person who did the analysis was a PHD structural engineering professor. It was the most media covered event of a century. The hard, proven facts gather “at the time” simply don’t match up with the explanations.
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Thanks red. Interesting.
The most interesting part is explaining some of the behaviour of the “jumpers”.
Why did they take off their clothes?
There’s a great deal here that is unexplained in the “public” utterances of the powers that be.
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So we can be fairly confident that any of us posting here is on the watch lists of the FBI, Asio etc. Food for thought…
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