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60% are skeptics: Only 13% of UK voters say Net Zero is more important than cost of living

Polls, punters, climate belief. Man and Dog.

By Jo Nova

What were they thinking?

Despite 30 years of wall-to-wall propaganda most adults seem to feel that Climate Change is not an emergency. For some reason, they’d rather cut their electricity bill now, than cool the world by a thousandth of a degree in a hundred years time.

It’s taken billions of dollars worth of prime time news, school doom projects, clean-green advertising, and hot-weather-girl hyperbole to keep the fantasy levitating. Not to mention the weeping lectures from 97% of experts — yet somehow, improbably, most people are not buying it.

Imagine if we had a free press, and the Nobel Prize winners who disagreed were interviewed by the 7:30 Report or 60 minutes? Imagine if they talked to electrical engineers and geologists on the news?  It wouldn’t be 60% of voters who were skeptical, it would be 100%.

He who controls the media, can confuse 40% of the people.

Thanks to Will Jones at the Daily Sceptic.

Nigel Farage speaks for voters on net zero. Here’s how we know

Michael Deacon, Telegraph, UK

This week, a new polling firm called Merlin Strategy asked voters for their views on tackling climate change. But here’s the crucial thing, it didn’t merely ask them: “Do you support net zero?” Instead, it asked them which was more important: action to achieve net zero, or cutting the cost of living. And guess what they said? Almost 60 per cent chose cutting the cost of living, while a mere 13 per cent chose net zero.

So 13% were wealthy enough, or obsessed enough, that they were willing to say they wanted to pay more to “put environmental aims first”. (Or maybe they worked in the industry).

Cutting cost of living MUST come before expensive Net Zero drive

Jack Elsom, The Sun

A Merlin Strategy poll of 3,000 people found 59 per cent of Brits agreed that “action to reduce the cost of living has to come first over sustainability and being eco-friendly”.

Just 13 per cent of people thought ministers should put environmental aims first.

The verdict was returned by supporters of all parties. For Labour voters, 61 per cent agreed and 12 per cent disagreed, for Tories it was 70 per cent and eight per cent, and for Reform it was 65 per cent and 15 per cent.

Clearly most polls ask loaded silly questions so they get loaded silly answers. They ask open apple-pie questions “Would you like the government to spend other people’s money making storms nicer?”

But it isn’t exactly hard to write surveys that ask people to rank choices, or to quiz them about what they would be willing to pay, yet pollsters rarely do that.

The point of most polls is not to tell the Blob what the people want, it’s to tell the people what The Blob wants.

Think about what polls like this say about our democracies. In theory, after surveys like this come out (and they have many times) if political parties were trying to serve the people, they would quietly drop the Net Zero plans so they could win over more voters. Instead, the two major parties push on year after year, almost as if they serve something else.

This result is nearly identical to one two years ago in the UK that found 62% said reducing electricity bills was more important than climate targets. Yet the Tories self-immolated, and Labour got elected but dug themselves a hole they didn’t need to dig. Why?

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PS: The New Pope has been picked –– a man of the times, American cardinal Robert Prevost, originally of Chicago – who is a described as a fierce opponent of same-sex marriage and gender studies. He opposed a plan in Peru to add gender studies instruction in classrooms, saying “The promotion of gender ideology is confusing, because it seeks to create genders that don’t exist.” I don’t think the Left will be happy with Pope Leo XIV.  The ABC were clearly hoping for the more progressive candidates from Asia and Africa.

 

 

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83 comments to 60% are skeptics: Only 13% of UK voters say Net Zero is more important than cost of living

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    TdeF

    I repost Strop’s comment..

    the climate apocalypse narrative is a social contagion that’s driven by power mad psychopaths who are hellbent on using fear and compulsion to make sure everyone steps in line so that they can continue with their acquisition of undeserved power

    Jordan Peterson
    Joe Rogan Experience episode #2308 @ 1:17:30

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    Dave of Gold Coast

    Very interesting, Jo. Makes me question why Australia is firmly heading in the opposite direction. We have very high cost of living, yet the newly reelected government is looking at more taxing and handouts. Hardly a way to bring inflation down. Trump is working on it in US, Farage will move on it next election in UK but Canada and Australia is moving to greater debt.
    PS: Who do we owe the trillion dollars to?

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      John Watt

      We need someone game enough to do the basic sums and advise the public.
      Simple approach…rebuild the coal-fired stations and regain our lowest cost reliable electricity supply….how much?
      To build equivalent renewable capacity including battery/hydro to cover no wind/no sun situations and get the electricity to the customers…how much? ( and include cost of reduced rural output related to productive land being grabbed by transmission lines and solar panels and wind turbines).
      No one from any political persuasion is game to set up a bias-free analysis process.

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        OldOzzie

        Ten renewable energy projects have been given the green light to connect to the Central-West Orana Renewable Energy Zone (REZ), through agreements that will deliver enough power to supply more than half of NSW homes.

        8 May 2025 – The NSW Government has awarded groundbreaking ‘access rights’ to renewable energy companies, which pave the way for wind and solar farms and large-scale batteries to connect to the incoming transmission line in the REZ.

        The projects have a total of 7.15 gigawatts of renewable energy and storage capacity, capable of powering 2.7 million homes by 2031 in peak periods. They will avoid 10.29 million tonnes of carbon emissions per year.

        Renewable energy generators and projects that have been successful in securing rights to connect to the Central-West Orana REZ are:

        – Valley of the Winds (wind farm) – ACEN (919 megawatts)
        – Birriwa Solar (solar facility) – ACEN (600 megawatts)
        – Birriwa Battery Energy Storage System (battery storage) – ACEN (600 megawatts)
        – Sandy Creek Solar (solar facility) – Lightsource bp (700 megawatts)
        – Sandy Creek Battery Energy Storage System (battery) – Lightsource bp (700 megawatts)
        – Cobbora Solar (solar facility) – Pacific Partnerships (700 megawatts)
        – Cobbora Battery Energy Storage System (battery) – Pacific Partnerships (400 megawatts)
        – Tallawang Solar Hybrid (solar and battery facility) – Potentia Energy (500 megawatts)
        – Spicers Creek Wind Farm (wind farm) – Squadron Energy (700 megawatts)
        – Liverpool Range Wind Farm (stages 1 and 2) (wind farm) – Tilt Renewables (1,332 megawatts)

        The ten projects are expected to bring more than 3,200 jobs to the region during construction and 870 ongoing operations and maintenance roles, over the average 30-year agreement.

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          Here’s a lie: “…capable of powering 2.7 million homes by 2031 in peak periods”.

          Like low wind hot nights? Second lie is listing the batteries in MW as though they were generators. In 4 hr MWh they are trivial. They might even be 2 hr.

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          David Maddison

          They always state proudly the huge number of ongoing jobs.

          But those jobs are indicative of just how inefficient these installations are in terms of the number of employees required to produce a given amount of energy.

          They are essentially “make work” programs.

          Those subsidy farms have a nameplate of 7151 Mw (if ever built). Take 30% capacity factor and that makes 2145 MW not taking into account battery storage.

          Loy Yang B has a capacity of 1070MW and employs 152 staff and 40 contractors according to Wikipedia. So 192 staff.

          The subsidy farms will employ 870 staff.

          The farms have a capacity of nearly exactly twice Loy Yang B so on that basis should employ 384 based on the same efficiency level.

          But they employ 2.26 times the number of people as for a coal power station, and an old one at that. A modern one would be much more automated.

          There will will also be a small number of extra people at Loy Yang B to mine the cold, similarly batteries for the subsidy farms.

          And all that to produce a fundamentally defective wind and solar product which is expensive and unreliable.

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          briantheengineer

          The number of jobs indicates how expensive these projects are.

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          Mike Jonas

          “enough power to supply more than half of NSW homes”. I know a guy who does a lot of mowing. In a year he travels far enough on his mower to get from Sydney to Auckland and back. But if you wanted to get from Sydney to Auckland and back you wouldn’t try to do it on a mower, because it’s not something that a mower can do. For the same reason you wouldn’t try to power half of NSW homes with renewable energy.

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        Ronin

        Build back better, in coal.

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          OldOzzie

          Unbeknownst to many Americans, the federal government, in cahoots with state and local governments, has pushed electricity grid operators to build more solar and wind power facilities instead of dependable natural gas plants while prematurely shuttering perfectly operable coal power plants.

          As is almost always the case, government subsidies, loan guarantees, and tax breaks have created a skewed market in which utility companies are incentivized to build more solar and wind power plants instead of dependable and affordable coal, natural gas, and nuclear power plants.

          Due to this short-sighted money grab, the long-term reliability of the U.S. grid is being put in peril.

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        TdeF

        Good question. I’d expect mainly our trading partners. People who buy our products including coal, iron ore, lithium, gas, wheat, wool, metals, fruit. And it depends whether the contracts are in $US or $A. Also people who want a basic government guaranteed return on cash. Japan is the most heavily indebted country in the world but almost all of that debt is owned by Japanese citizens.

        And the biggest losers in the 2008 GFC were probably Chinese who lost trillions thinking Fannie May and Freddie Mac were high paying secure US government bonds, instead of shonky worthless mortgages in a scammed system left over from the depression. But the people who sold those ‘instruments’ knew all about it. And I don’t remember any economists warning of the danger of trillions in worthless mortages.

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    TdeF

    And add that the list of countries where politicians, not scientists, push this absurd CO2 agenda is very small.

    Western Europe, Australia and NZ, the UK and Ireland, Canada. That’s about 400 million people from the world’s 8Billion, so 5%.

    And of the 5% who are forced to pay CO2 handouts hidden in their cost of living, mining, working, travelling 2/3 disagree with the whole thing because it’s pointless. So 97% of the world’s population think it’s wrong.

    Plus the very idea has never been proven. No one has proven the increase in CO2 is man made. No one has proven that this small increase in a tiny gas is significant. No one has proven warming is a problem. No one has proven we could change the amount of CO2 in the air if we wanted to do so. (NASA has proven growing trees doesn’t reduce CO2)

    What is very difficult in Australia is that Labor, Liberals, Greens, Nationals all think ripping off Australians and sending the cash to China is a great idea. And you can believe Jordan Petersen that it’s all about absolute power. Or wonder what hold China has on critical politicians?

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      TdeF

      And while our political masters, none scientists, claim that they are “Climate Agnostic“(John Howard) or “not a scientist“(Peter Dutton) they all enthusiastically embrace legislating the silent and massive theft from Australians to send overseas. To stop something which they are not convinced exists? There has to be a better explanation than don’t know. Or is it the Mitch McConnell effect? Just as treasurer Chalmer’s hero Paul Keating chaired the China/Australia business association. There is no target bigger than a poor politician like Joe Biden.

      The best thing which has happened to upend fantasy Climate Change is Donald Trump. Drill, baby drill. The US, not Saudi or UAE or Russia or Venezuela is the biggest producer of oil in the world. And Canada has just done a deal. I expect a banker like Mark Carney has agreed to more than he says or states like Alberta will secede. And let’s see what Trump has done with his other great enemy, Keir Starmer who has just seized back control of what’s left of British Steel from the Chinese. The battle for world supremacy is all about energy. With cheap energy you can do anything. You can make water.

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    Honk R Smith

    It’s just getting exposed.
    Pandemic was the big ‘Science’ op after the Climate Change ‘Science’ op.

    ‘Science’ has now become a meme that many associate with political abuse and corruption.
    (Funny how ‘Science’ seems clueless about this and shows no interest in rebuilding its’ reputation.)
    A Uni near me just had Fauci visit and discuss how heroic ‘Science’ is, and how backward ‘Science’ resisters are … ’cause misinformation.
    A highly educated circle … well, you know.

    Guess the real question is what is The Blob’s next big play.
    My money is on alien invasion.

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      TdeF

      Don’t you already have 20 million aliens?

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        Honk R Smith

        Should’ve been more precise.
        ‘non-human space alien invasion’.

        This is not really a joke.
        The US Congress has held hearings from Blob whistleblowers claiming The Blob has been keeping space alien visitation and contact a secret for decades.
        Congress apparently attempted to pass a law to force the Deep State to hand over said information to Congress, which failed.
        Here’s a current Pentagon type whistleblower saying as much. Under something called ‘Immaculate Constellation’
        … (you can’t make this stuff up).
        He asserts they’re here and the secret Blob gubmint knows and is keeping us all in the dark.

        Immaculate Constellation – A UFO Whistleblower’s Journey : WEAPONIZED : Episode #75 : PART 2
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n_bRtnIP14
        Perhaps the Space Men will save us from Climate Change.

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      Honk, science is useless because they have no overall knowledge of technology and they have no practical experience. Everything thing humans have achieved and know has come from engineering experience, testing, planning and building from millions of years ago when humans first made tools and learnt to use fire. Did you know that Neanderthals made bone tools which was passed on to homo sapiens. The Australian aborigines never used bone tools. A bone flute dating to 40000 BC has been found in Europe.

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    Dave in the States

    This is why they lie and say that Nutz Zero policies will save you money, when it’s obvious that it is not the case.

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      David Maddison

      In Australia they keep endlessly repeating that “renewables” are the cheapest of all electricity generating methods. A blatantly obvious lie that people see when they get their bills for some of the world’s most expensive electricity when it used to be among the cheapest.

      Orwell in Nineteen Eighty Four foresaw just about everything that’s happening to us now (but you have TRUMP to fix this).

      Being in a minority, even in a minority of one, did not make you mad. There was truth and there was untruth, and if you clung to the truth even against the whole world, you were not mad.

      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.

      In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense.

      It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grammes a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be REDUCED to twenty grammes a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.

      Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.

      In a way, the world−view of the Party imposed itself most successfully on people incapable of understanding it. They could be made to accept the most flagrant violations of reality, because they never fully grasped the enormity of what was demanded of them, and were not sufficiently interested in public events to notice what was happening. By lack of understanding they remained sane. They simply swallowed everything, and what they swallowed did them no harm, because it left no residue behind, just as a grain of corn will pass undigested through the body of a bird.

      Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious.

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    Zigmaster

    The point you make is equally valid in Australia and the Labor government and the complicit media knew that. So in 2022 they didnt run on a campaign that they could solve climate change with renewables only that electricity bills would fall by $275 . If they wouldve campaigned that your bills will rise by $700 and taxpayers would pay a fortune to support ineffective Green schemes they wouldn’t have got in. So in 2025 it’s the same pea and thimble trick. To refute the nuclear proposal they didnt claim that nuclear would create 3 eyed fish they said that it would cost an astronomical $600 billion for 4% of the grid. If the truth were known that even the CSIRO claim of $118 billion was probably exaggerated there was a risk that people not only would think that nuclear was affordable but that the cost of renewables is way more than the government claimed.
    This election was (amongst other things) lost because the opposition could never effectively argue that nuclear not only is cleaner and better for the environment but that it would cost less. The inability to refute the obvious lies of the government was why they lost and when voters were lied to in 2022 on energy this was the precedent the Liberals shouldve used to destroy Labor on this issue. And the fact that they themselves had a 53% renewables target and retained commitment to Paris agreement targets and nett zero showed they didnt have their hearts in it. this was such an easy arguement to win as Nigel Farage is showing but you have to have genuine belief and conviction. There are still especially in NSW Liberals who continue to sabotage the party from inside by continuing to believe that Australia needs to be doing things to change the weather. Unfortunately it’s only the smaller parties like the Libertarians and One Nation who have policies that reject all the climate change rubbish. Even nuclear is a compromise.The whole process of believing we even need to reduce emissions is flawed . The way the rest of the world is going its clear that the failure to reject this issue will create enormous damage to the economy especially compared to the rest of the world. The Spanish blackouts shouldve been a coup de gras for the Liberals in the week of the election but they couldnt exploit it because of they themselves were limited by their stupid commitment to nett zero.

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      TdeF

      Nut zero.

      And no politician said let’s build more coal power plants. China is building 810 of them but not the clever country.

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      Skepticynic

      >The inability to refute the obvious lies of the government was why they lost

      That was not an inability. That was a complicity. Both factions of the Uniparty are captured. The key players are compromised.

      In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. Franklin D. Roosevelt

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      Ross

      Ziggy, I had forgotten about the $275 broken promise. I wasn’t keyed into the whole election campaign, but did anyone from the LNP use that to attack Albanese at any time?

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        TdeF

        What? And point out it was a bald faced lie, completely random made up stuff to the nearest $5? Electricity prices went up a thousand in the next year on average. The Liberals mounted no serious challenge on energy except to push nuclear instead of coal or gas. So that was guaranteed to be a loser too.

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          Ronin

          To the average low information Australian voter, nuclear is Chernobyl or Three Mile Island or the Simpsons,

          so it was never going to fly.
          The main thing to be done is to wean us off preferential voting , it’s what delivers govt on 34 % of the primary vote, apparently Albo-tross got in on the same % as Shorton lost by in 2019.

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      wal1957

      There was a report on the news a couple nights ago that some Liberal members were saying the party should abandon any plans for nuclear.
      The Libs have sat on the fence on so many issues that I’m sure they now have no idea what they stand for.
      Their plan of roughly 50% renewables defies common sense.
      They didn’t deserve to win.
      They were unelectable.
      Labor was elected by default.
      Australia lost.

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        David Maddison

        Australia lost.

        We have to work put a positive way forward.

        I think the Liberal Party is unfixable so as I’ve said elsewhere a new genuinely conservative party with a clear statement of beliefs needs to be formed, probably from the merger of the existing small conservative parties.

        Many years ago I was involved with the Liberal Party and was on the philosophy committee. I couldn’t get them to firmly commit to any philosophy in particular because it would make them “less flexible”. I even spoke to Howard himself and suggested thst there be strict limitations on government spending and he replied with those exact words “less flexible”.

        The Liberals in attempting to be “flexible” and all things to all people now means nothing to anyone.

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        briantheengineer

        97% of NSW Liberal delegates endorsed Nuclear at the preceding State AGM.

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    Neville

    If they really want net zero why not build reliable, baseload energy like Nuclear for about 0.15 trillion $? Nuclear capacity factor is 93%, so what’s their problem?
    So why would any sane govt choose to destroy our environments on land and sea using toxic unreliable W & S + batteries + Gas for about 9 TRILLION $?
    Obviously zero change to climate or weather by 2100, so why waste 9 trillion $ on toxic, junk energy that has a combined capacity factor of about 22.5 %?
    These are very simple sums so why can’t Albo and B O Bowen etc get help to understand the data?

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    Mark Jones

    The newly minted Pope Leo XIV is pro-climate change so more of the same from The Vatican. “Dominion over nature should not be tyrannical”

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      Steve

      We’ll see how it turns out. Cardinals are both politicians and priests. Their publicly stated views as as a Cardinal can change in an instant after they get the big hat and Popemobile. Cardinal Francis/Bergoglio was a very different guy than Pope Francis, and I suspect Pope Leo is going to be a very different guy than Cardinal Leo/Prevost.

      Cardinal Prevost taking an old school name like Leo might provide a clue. No one has taken that name since the 19th century. It used to be very popular in the middle ages (there were 7 Leos between the 9th and 11th centuries), but fell out of favor after Leos presided over both the Great Schism and the Protestant Reformation. Maybe he is sending a message about another schism within the church needing to be dealt with.

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      David Maddison

      Dominion over nature should not be tyrannical

      Destroying bird, bat and insect life with windmills, clearing forests for wind and solar subsidy farms, roads and clearing for access and transmission lines and destruction of productive farmland all appears quite tyrannical to me.

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      briantheengineer

      Why would they fight it. They would lose zealots to the new religion.

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      Tel

      I’ve been distributing feedback questionnaires around my radish garden, encouraging them to vote on key issues that affect them … how much water they need, what type of fertilizer, do they prefer sunny days or rainy days.

      The biggest problem I have run into is explaining how the preferential ballot system works. It’s a challenge!

      Trying to explain it to the cabbage heads is even more difficult than the radish patch. They still keep asking what the party will do with their preferences.

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    Crakar24

    I think it’s more a case of “the boy who cried wolf” is coming back to bite them on the bum

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    Tony Tea

    Texas getting the green light for an SMR at Abilene and Dow proposing another will further ratchet up the pressure on the Big Climate and Renewables gang of thieves.

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    Grant Boydell

    A movie made in 1970 – The Rise and Rise of Michael Rimmer – written by John Cleese, Peter Cook & Grahame Chapman forecast use of polls to manipulate the public. It starred Peter Cook as a pollster who rose to PM through aggressive polling. Brilliant.

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    David Maddison

    Good news.

    However, the disbelief in the Official Narrative about climate, mRNA covid “vaccinations” or anything else is why the Leftist regimes of the world, including Australia’s are pushing hard for more and more censorship.

    In fact, in Australia, we don’t even usually know what’s been censored because the e Safety Kommissar is not obliged to publish a list of what she has censored and why.

    Fortunately TRUMP and Musk do support free speech and thus there’ll be always a source of truth there, as long as the Australian and other Leftist Governments don’t block your access or prosecute you for attempting to access material not compliant with the Official Narrative. I have no doubt also that longer term, pro-truth blogs such as this will be targetted.

    All that of course, is unless Australia and other nations who are victims of Leftist totalitarianism actively support and elect freedom parties.

    E.g. Farage in UK, in Australia conservative parties such as One Nation, Trumpets, Libertarian etc.. (Or reform the Liberal Party (fake conservative) although that seems to be beyond hope.)

    Australia’s conservative parties should form an alliance and form a new conservative party.

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    Bruce

    Politics, especially “modern” politics, are ALL about having “solutions” in search of “problems.

    All too often these “solutions’ have the reek of “finality” about them.

    Note how the eco-nazis have pivoted to (revealed) a narrow range of bizarre “solutions” to EVERYTHING. ALL of these require “quality of life” degradation and population “right-sizing”.

    Pick a side, prepare accordingly and ensure your “affairs” are in order.

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    Steve

    The ABC were clearly hoping for the more progressive candidates from Asia and Africa.

    I was hoping for a more fire-and-brimstone traditionalist type candidate (as a counter to the years of ‘progressive’ leadership under Pope Frank), but I am cautiously optimistic about the American guy, even if he is from Chicago. Hopefully, he’s not a Cubs fan.

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      TdeF

      As part of his public profile, he does like Tim Tams, one of the few Australian inventions. But I suppose that’s condoning slave labour in the Ivory Coast and Ghana.

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        TdeF

        Ha! And just to show either Trump Derangement Syndrome or just Trumpomania, even The Australian
        is running the headline “Not Trump’s choice’: Who is Robert Prevost?”

        I doubt the conclave even knew or considered what Donald Trump wanted in a new Pope.
        But he did send J.D.Vance to bump off the last one.

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      RicDre

      According to Rebecca Mansour of Breitbart News: “Pope Leo XIV is apparently a White Sox fan, not a Cubs fan, according to his brother. But the new pope’s mother was a Cubs fan.”

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    Ronin

    Australia contributes approx 1% of global CO2, after having listened to him ranting about how CO2 mitigation is a ‘war’, perhaps now that Mr Bandt is out of a job, he can tootle off to China and remind them of their responsibilities re CO2

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    Neville

    Here’s the first few sentences of the lastest 9 trillion $ cost of their net zero report. Just have a look at their guesstimate of the extra energy required.
    So how does Australia increase toxic W & S by 100 times in a decade or so? Here’s their quotes…..

    “Australia will need nearly three terrawatts, or 3,000 gigawatts, of wind and solar if it is to meet its goal of a net zero economy by 2030, a plan that could cost up to $9 trillion, according to a new study”.

    “The astonishing numbers are revealed in a new report – Net Zero Australia – put together by Melbourne University, the University of Queensland, and the Nous Group, and released on Wednesday”.

    “To put the 3,000 gigawatts of wind and solar in some context, Australia currently only has about 30GW of large scale wind and solar across the country. So it has a lot to do”.

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    OldOzzie

    Center for Energy Studies – The Iberian Peninsula Blackout — Causes, Consequences, and Challenges Ahead

    In just five seconds, Spain lost approximately 15 gigawatts of capacity, equivalent to 60% of its national electricity demand.

    The remaining generation was insufficient to meet demand, thus triggering a cascading failure across the entire grid. Various generating units were automatically disconnected to protect infrastructure, and nuclear plants were shut down in accordance with safety protocols.

    Within hours, the Iberian Peninsula experienced a complete electrical blackout. Thus, the entire mainland of Spain and Portugal was simultaneously without power, a situation that lasted for several hours.

    The system required a black start — meaning a process for restoring power from a total system shutdown — which initially relied on internal generation. Subsequently, the limited interconnections with neighboring countries also played a key role; Morocco supplied up to 900 megawatts through transmission lines across the Strait of Gibraltar, while France contributed up to 2 gigawatts. The recovery was both gradual and uneven across regions.

    That same day, power began returning around 5:00 pm local time and continued progressively into the night and early morning of the next day. By 6:00 am on April 29, 99% of national demand had been restored, an outcome considered a relatively swift and successful black start. However, by that time, the event had caused several casualties, including thousands of individuals being trapped in trains, elevators, and other electrically dependent infrastructure.

    Grid Vulnerabilities Exposed

    The risk of large-scale blackouts in electricity systems with high shares of renewable energy is well-established. However, the Iberian blackout of April 28 brings these long-recognized vulnerabilities into sharp focus.

    A central issue lies in the lack of ancillary services, in particular frequency regulation and inertia, which are traditionally provided by synchronous generators in conventional power plants, such as nuclear, thermal, and hydroelectric facilities. These generators contribute electrical inertia through their rotating masses, helping to stabilize grid frequency and voltage during sudden fluctuations or imbalances.

    By contrast, solar and wind installations typically operate with grid-following inverters —devices that synchronize with the grid’s existing frequency and voltage rather than establishing those parameters themselves. These systems depend on a stable grid to function correctly and cannot autonomously support grid stability during disturbances.

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    OldOzzie

    Center for Energy Studies Working Paper Small Modular Reactors for Nuclear Desalination and Cogeneration in the Permian Basin
    May 7, 2025

    “We need a Manhattan Project to deal with the produced water.”
    — Kirk Edwards, former chairman of the Permian Basin Petroleum Association, April 2025[1]

    Nuclear energy can potentially supply baseload, carbon-free electricity and process heat to repurpose and utilize some of the Permian Basin’s roughly 25 million barrels per day of oilfield produced water.[2]

    Doing so would free up local natural gas supplies for other uses, create a new water resource, and potentially, help address increasingly significant challenges with induced seismicity related to injection disposal of produced water.

    Furthermore, nuclear reactors’ substantial heat output is well-suited for thermal distillation — the most robust process for oilfield waters whose variable quality, including contamination with hydrocarbons and high salinity, can severely challenge reverse osmosis-based treatment systems.[3] If a modern Manhattan Project is needed to handle produced water, the core tools of the original Manhattan Project — nuclear reactors — could potentially be very well suited for the task.

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    RickWill

    This is the sort of poling the LNP need to be doing.

    Now that my 66c/kWh FIT has ended, I have used all the government offered OPM to get off gas and install a battery. About $10,000 worth of government largesse in the last year plus $3,000 for the original solar installation. And the 66c/kWh for 3MWh/y over 15 years was a decent amount of money; almost $30k.

    I have just accepted a new daily service fee of $1.04c/day for electricity after closing my gas account. So when the battery gets turned on on 1st July that is all I will pay most days. But I will need to leech off the grid when the sun does not shine at ground level for a couple of days. I would not have access to that largesse if I was not a home owner.

    So all the infrastructure to supply me with power on the few days of low sunshine plus the occasional burst in demand when the 3kW inverter cannot meet the demand like when the oven is first turned on is mostly paid for by others who do not own a roof or their roof is not suitable for solar panels. I would have to spend another $25k to go completely off-grid.

    All these things are highly regressive in terms of burden across the community. They have already made it uneconomic for most industry in Australia. It pushes high cost of living onto young people trying to get into the housing market so they can be in line for the government largesse.

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    Graham

    Here is a real-life plot for truly terrifying horror story straight from Hollywood. 💀🔥

    When you “mess around” you find out. 😱😱😱

    The power grid in Spain goes down for a week and has a flow on impact on France and Germany, which causes the collapse of the overloaded interconnectors. ⚡🔥

    The food supplies for millions of people rot in refrigerated storage. 💩💩💩

    The water supplies for millions of people stops being pumped into cities and people’s homes. 😭😭

    Then those millions of city dwellers “find out”. 🔥💀🔥💀

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    SimonB

    The key the Lib/Nats are missing in Australia is education (indoctrination). They have 3 years to sort their mess out and stand for their core values. The first of which is the complete revamp of the Australian Education system. Years of indoctrination into only being considered for University courses if you believe in the narrative must stop. An applicant can do a teaching ‘degree’ with an enter score equivalent to stop/go sign holder, but as long as they say they believe in climate change they are accepted to hand out Labor’s narrative to school kids.
    I spoke with a former British Airways pilot a while back and he said his daughter confirmed with him that to be accepted into the MET office in the UK now you must accept man made climate change to be employed. She apparently has had enough of the theatre designed for mainstream media.
    Australia is strangled by the same education requirements and until that changes the youth who have had enough of this white noise won’t be outwardly honest about their beliefs, they’ll continue to say what is expected and the country will bankrupt itself for 3% activist zealots to fete each other in their echo chamber.
    Whoever leads the Libs from now MUST stand for the core values of the country. Let the coming Labor treaty with 5% of our own population despite 65% voting against the Voice be a stark warning. If you don’t recognise the core value of the majority of the population, you will be as unelectable as Vic & WA conservatives!

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    Old Goat

    The UK is in a world of financial trouble . So is most of the west including the USA . This is driving changes to the narrative , which is a “emperor with no clothes situation” and is unsustainable . Recent events are showing the misdirection and outright lies for what they are . You can ignore reality , but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality .

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      Gob

      Then there’s their rivers, only one in seven is not vitiated by mismanagement of sewage and the anglers associations are agitating for meaningful action.

      Australia’s vampire squid Macquarie greatly contributed to the disaster which is Thames Water; the BBC is replete with stories of Macquarie’s Thames iniquities.

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    TdeF

    And on Carbon Taxes, EARTH.ORG have a map

    Those with Carbon taxes are supposedly in Green. A lot of Green dots on Canada to Mexico, even though there are only three countries. And America is out of this madness.

    Europe mainly and then Kazakhstan, China and Japan. The idea that China has carbon restraint/Taxes/inhibitions is past silly.

    Plus New Zealand.

    But I am amazed that with the way the Liberals, Labour and Greens have hidden our governments legislated massive carbon theft, officially Australia has NO carbon taxes! We are on our way to 35% tax on all big companies which do anything. And we have had punitive Green certificates on all fossil fuels since AD2001 and double payments for wind and solar, pushing electricity prices through the roof. But even EARTH.ORG is fooled. As are most Australians.

    Again with South America, Africa, America, China, and most countries in the world OUT, 95% of people do not have Carbon taxes. But 100% of politicians agree. It’s only a question of whether they can get away with it. And now the UN is taxing every cargo ship in the world to bring in $40Bn a year to fund the UN’s fight on carbon dioxide as a pollutant. The gas from which all life is made. Watch that quietly push up prices.

    It’s so obviously wrong and evil and robbery. The government funded forces arrayed against real Science and even common sense are overwhelming, as Dr Peter Ridd found out. Especially those who don’t give up and fight so hard publicly. Ian Plimer and Lord Chistopher Monckton and Patrick Moore and Jo herself. Real heroes. But the UN keeps demanding more tens of billions to stop the sky from falling and the seas from boiling. Really? Cui Bono?

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    MeAgain

    The weather has always been a real sticking point when trying to convince Brits there is global warming. Bring it on, we say here.

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    RickWill

    Alex Antic covers the issues in this interview quite well:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmjaEHTmfwA

    Hopefully this is the sane base to build from.

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    The turning point was when the green blob discovered that it could no longer compete with cheaply made products from those countries not subject to the green blob. Profits matter, especially for the green blob (who now seeks another blob to make its money).

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    Penguinite

    The best thing to come out of the recent Federal election was the decimation if not eradication of The Greens! Next was the realisation that The Libs were gutless and disorganised! Thirdly Labor may have won the majority of seats but not the popular vote! In fact their share of votes has barely changed over the last six elections!

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      TdeF

      It’s the first election I remember where Labor and Liberals gave each other first preference, making it a two horse race. That alone wiped out Greens and Independents.

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        Strop

        Labor didn’t preference the Libs. They preferenced the Greens first (vote 2) in more than two thirds of the seats. They preferenced the Greens ahead of the Libs in every seat.
        (Actually I saw a Josh Burns how to vote online and he only had a 1 for himself. No preferences listed for others because he was afraid of the blow back from the large Jewish community in his seat if he showed any Greens favouritism. So maybe there was one Labor seat where no distinct preference was given)

        The Libs preferenced Labor ahead of the Greens in every seat.

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      Strop

      The Greens lost 3 of their 4 lower house seats, but their vote was only down 0.5%

      Indications the other day were that the Greens gained 2 seats in the senate, going from 9 seats to 11 seats.
      This could give the Greens far more power than having 4 seats in the lower house, let alone just the 1 they will have. The house of reps seats are useless for the Greens and Teals when Labor (or Libs) have enough seats to pass legislation on their own. Labor easily has that. But they’ll need the Greens 11 seats in the senate to get things through.

      So while it’s great that Bandt et al lost 3 seats. Their vote hardly changed and they increased their position in the senate.

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    MeAgain

    https://drlatusdextro.substack.com/p/trumping-the-world

    “When I criticize the system, they think I criticize them, and that is of course because they fully accept the system and identify themselves with it.” – Thomas Merton

    ‘MSM’ (State mis/dis/mal indoctrination / propaganda) sow seamless psy-ops nudge-infested “news” like GMO crops, to reap a standardised, fluidic, malleable in-the-moment ‘product’, namely a cultivated unwitting compliance with subtle State and bureaucratic ‘guidance’, or a mind-numbed, socially narcosed, reflexive bowing agreement to overt directives. This seems quite revealing in that it also may be seen as an incontestable admission of fragility and brittleness, one perhaps of a monstrous and bizarre ideology that institutes a societal co-dependence, addicted as it appears to macro/micro management and control, manipulation and diktat, installing and fostering dependence, under-achievement, and self-destruction.

    ….

    What next one might think?
    Indeed.

    ….

    Down Under … the Orwellian blossoming of ‘Oceania’, a borderless Water World of declining social cohesion, increasing social distrust and ethnic splintering, a troubled place of whipped-up division and economic ruination, impoverishment instigated and perpetrated by globalist entities?

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